Of course we already knew comedian Wanda Sykes was a lesbian, but the rest of the world played catch up on Saturday when Sykes surprised organizers of a Prop 8 rally in Las vegas by coming out officially.
What I didn’t know was that Wanda married her lady friend on October 25th in a private ceremony.
So now Sykes is fighting mad because, as she puts it: “When my wife and I leave California, I want to have my marriage also recognized in Nevada, in Arizona, all the way to New York!”
Then Sykes goes on to compare a lifestyle choice with God’s natural selection and intelligent design of the sexes.
“Being gay is not a choice,” argues Sykes. “That’s like telling me I chose to be a woman, I chose to be black! Are we saying that if being gay is a choice… people are straight because they chose not to be gay?”
Of course Sykes’ argument is flawed since she chose to be married to a man once (they divorced in 1998).
No matter how natural she thinks being gay is, two women can’t have a baby without a man’s participation at some point along the way.
Until lesbians figure out how to eliminate men from the baby making process entirely, we will forever be dependent on them — and turkey basters.
Californians took a vote to oppose gay marriage. That’s how a democracy works. The people of California have spoken.
And nothing Wanda Sykes says is going to change their minds.
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GOOD MORNING FAMILY !
Morning Kym!! Morning Everyone!!
I haven’t been on here in a min!!
Being Straight is not a choice, so I agree with her.
However, some people do not know what team they want to be on. That is a choice! I still don’t know what to think about this. What does the Bible say?
im not gay. i have nothing invested in this really. but i really think straight people need to mind their own business. putting this much effort into something that doesn’t concern nor affect u is beyond me. WTF is it to anyone whether or not 2 women or 2 men get married. focus on ur own home
IN MY OPINIOn
Marriage should always remain between a man and woman because in fact it was created from religious instuitions and the idea of a marriage was for a man and a woman to come together and have children and carry on their legacy, a man and a man cannot do that(naturally) so the religious institution of what marriage should be should remain the same.
I am all for civil unions for insurance purposes, inheritance purposes adoption purposes etc. but to try to change the wording of a religious perspective is blasphemous and silly. You dont need to be “married” to someone to justify your love, Gays should fight for something more important like dont ask dont tell, marriage they wont win
also the whole second class citizen, uh yeah right, go to a muslim country and talk about being a second class citizen all of them at the rally would have been JAILED!!!!!!!
Hey mimi r … !!!
Wanda Sykes was married before…hmmmm, that team switch I was just talking about.
However, some people do not know what team they want to be on. That is a choice! I still don’t know what to think about this. What does the Bible say?
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Truthfully the bible says a lot of things that could be argued depending on one’s perspective and prior ideals.
http://purplepew.org/god-matters/truth-matters/what-does-the-bible-actually-say-about-being-gay
Wanda Sykes was married before…hmmmm, that team switch I was just talking about.
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I posted a link for you to read sandra should approve it soon
DivineBrown Says:
Wanda Sykes was married before…hmmmm, that team switch I was just talking about.
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Some only get married to the opposite sex to please others or to “fit in”.
I’LL STICK TO MY RELIGIOUS BELIEFS ON THIS ONE AND OUT OF RESPECT FOR OTHERS - I HAVE NO COMMENT..
GOOD MORNING FAM!!!
BLACKBARBIE404 Says:
I’LL STICK TO MY RELIGIOUS BELIEFS ON THIS ONE AND OUT OF RESPECT FOR OTHERS - I HAVE NO COMMENT..
GOOD MORNING FAM!!!
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Religious beliefs are always up for interpretation for instance
“”For this cause shall a man leave his father and mother, and cleave to his wife; And they twain shall be one flesh: so then they are no more twain, but one flesh. What therefore God hath joined together, let not man put asunder.”"
Instead of being anti-gay couldnt this simply be talking about the sanctity of heterosexual marriage?
@ Barbie .. thats why all I said was GOOD MORNING FAM !
I am not for “gay marriage” but I do think that the world should recognize this relationship as legal, if that makes sense. I grew up with people that we knew were gay in second grade so I have to argue that some people are born that way, I have seen gay animals so with all the chemicals in food, mutation of cells, and diformities I have to agree that a lot of individuals just do not choose to be that way. For the “try-sexuals” thats a whole other issue and I dont speak in regards to that, but I am glad Wanda spoke up for her beliefs, good for her. Also I dont think that her being married to a man contradicts her lifestyle, a lot of people battle with that for years and really attempt a life of normalcy, she is not the first.
Gays have the right to marry - Wanda proves that. Whuy don’t they just go through legal adoptions of each other for property purposes? That would solve the whole family relationship issue. Seems like too much money, time and energy being spent on a “trivial” verbage issue.
Even though I feel heterosexuals undermine the sanctity of marriage themselves, I would have to disagree with Wanda on the topic. It was created for a man and a woman by the definition.
And I would have to say that being gay is unnatural for the simple fact that in order for mankind to continue, a man AND a woman have to come together and reproduce. That is the natural way.
I’m not against gay couples, I’m all for live and let live, but please people don’t get it twisted.
ecstracy Says:
Gays have the right to marry - Wanda proves that. Whuy don’t they just go through legal adoptions of each other for property purposes? That would solve the whole family relationship issue. Seems like too much money, time and energy being spent on a “trivial” verbage issue.
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Agreed
i agree with lb.
I just don’t agree with gays who compare their movement to the Civil Rights movement….to me those are two different struggles. In my opinion, those are 2 movements that can’t even be compared. Blacks were not able to do many things in this country that for example, a white gay person can do. And thats all I will say about the matter.
I am sorry but i think any consenting adult should have the right to be married to whom they please as long as they are both CONSENTING ADULTS but i am so tired of people saying being gay is not a choice yes it is just like having sex is a choice if you are a woman who wants to be with a man you choose to the same goes for gay people… so stop quoting the bible and science and call it what it is a choice you make in life your mind may feel as if you are a woman but yet biologically you are a man you can choose to be gay or straight not bashing just stating facts and who did not know Wanda was gay come on people!!!!
exdiamonz Says:
I am sorry but i think any consenting adult should have the right to be married to whom they please as long as they are both CONSENTING ADULTS but i am so tired of people saying being gay is not a choice yes it is just like having sex is a choice if you are a woman who wants to be with a man you choose to the same goes for gay people… so stop quoting the bible and science and call it what it is a choice you make in life your mind may feel as if you are a woman but yet biologically you are a man you can choose to be gay or straight not bashing just stating facts and who did not know Wanda was gay come on people!!!!
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When did you choose to be straight?
okay i was typing and got interrupted. i have alot of gay friends. couples, single gay folk, etc. if they want to be married it is just my job as their friend to be supportive. not to be critical and spew my own personal belief upon them. i try to be embracing of all.
and personally i think you are born gay. again i use my homie i came up with as an example. we knew he was gay when he was 4-5 and me and his sister were 7. we just knew. and so did everybody else. when he came out…it was again a “no shyt sherlock” moment for us all.
as always. i’m just saying.
Everybody is not BORN gay. There are people who were molested that ended up gay. People that were victimized/raped that ended up gay.
Prisoners…end of story. They are not born gay. Some people are, some people aren’t.
i’d rather hear about this from a person i didn’t know was “gay”..PUFFY where are you???oops that’s a given too
If you want to get married, you should be able to get married regardless of your sexual orientation. Marriage was worded between a man and a woman- The Declaration of Independence also said that all men are created equal-ummm they didn’t say nothing about women and we know they didn’t mean nothing about folks of color. Here’s the bottom line what you do in your house, who you’re married to has nothing to do with me. Do you-the end.
DivineBrown Says:
Everybody is not BORN gay. There are people who were molested that ended up gay. People that were victimized/raped that ended up gay.
Prisoners…end of story. They are not born gay. Some people are, some people aren’t.
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How would being victimized or raped change your sexuality and change who you were attracted too if anything wouldnt expieriences like that make you steer clear and be homophobic?
Good article Sandra! Give yourself a big pat on the back!!!!!
I’m glad you could bring yourself to write such truth, especially considering that you’re gay. I agree with what you said 100% and then some.
Lisa Says:
If you want to get married, you should be able to get married regardless of your sexual orientation. Marriage was worded between a man and a woman- The Declaration of Independence also said that all men are created equal-ummm they didn’t say nothing about women and we know they didn’t mean nothing about folks of color. Here’s the bottom line what you do in your house, who you’re married to has nothing to do with me. Do you-the end.
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So you’re ok with your kids being taught about same sex marriage at school?
I guess my issue with it all is that marriage is a mindset. If my husband divorced me tomorrow but still treated me the same as he does now the word marriage would make no difference to me because I know he loves and appreciates me the same as he would with the paper. If you love each other, are committed, monogamus, form a family… you are married. Why do you society to recognize that for you?
I’ve been attracted to females since I was about 3-4 yrs old that I can remember maybe earlier than that………
i agree dbrown. some are not. some are (born gay). i think the ones who are not born like that are truly what is called bi-sexual. i shoulda said that. not every one is born gay i just think that you CAN be. i was just trying to say for some it is not a choice.
and i cosign with @mimi renee about the gay rights vs. civil rights…..
I had no idea she was gay….
If a man and a woman get married in a court or vegas as oppose to church are they considered married or is it a civil union?
I don’t know why ppl care so much about who marries who. & why do Christian ppl always say… “well I’m a Christian so _____” I swear it reminds me of gangs that are always throwing up their gang sign or screaming wesssttt siiidddeee… There I said.
@ charles
When i slept with a man
I’ve been attracted to females since I was about 3-4 yrs old that I can remember maybe earlier than that………
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my mother-in-law reports my husband was a fresh azz and got caught looking up skirts when he was around the same age. at the grocery store, in church, whenever he had the chance….
yeah the bible says marriage is between a man and a woman correct but what does have to this society nowadays marriage between a man and a woman end in over a 50% divorce rate and also what if a person does not believe in the bible are we not a nation that seperates church and state laws if that is the case put the shrimp and crab down bible says that too.. also what happened to human sacrafice i believe in God and the bible however, i do not believe i can tell some other adult who they can or cannot married.. i cannot judge a person for that so for all of you who are saying a man and woman should be married are you not juding someone else’s lifestyle….
kwallace577 Says:
I’ve been attracted to females since I was about 3-4 yrs old that I can remember maybe earlier than that………
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my mother-in-law reports my husband was a fresh azz and got caught looking up skirts when he was around the same age. at the grocery store, in church, whenever he had the chance….
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Cracking up because I remember my oldest son doing the same thing in church…crawling around under pews… I wish I coulld count the number of times my husband caught him and dragged him off to the mens room….hehehe
*marry*
The divorce rate will probably be the same for gays too……
For all of the people opposed to gay marriage because, “the bible says that marriage is between a man and a woman,” you do know that polygamy (multiple marriages) was practiced in the bible, correct?
So, really, the bible supports that marriage is between a man and a woman (and a woman and a woman and a woman)?
Do all christians support polygamy?
cosign w/ goat - family courts are already tied up with heterosexual family crisis - would hate to see the increase in child support/divorce/alimony/spousal support if that became a legal necessity
@ goat76
do you think so? I don’t know you know every gay couple i know have been together for ages like 10, 15, 20, 25 years this one lady at my worksite has been with her partner for 30 years and she is only 50 !! I wonder if they were allowed to get married would they be in the same boat with the divorce rate as hetero couples
@Lexidiamonz……..They are humans too……..
as a matter of fact….I think in Massachusetts maybe wrong….one of the first states to recognize gay marriages……the first gay couple to get married in that state ended up divorced……
Ignorance is bliss. . .
hmmm. this is a subject I’d have to say that folks should just mind their own business or find hobby. People are going to do what they want regardles of what the next person says. Be it by conscious diecisions or natural tendencies another person’s sexuality has NOTHING to do with you unless that person is trying to have sex with you. Plus last time I checked, “NO” is still a word that can be used.
LOL at Sandra and all her self hating posts.
I believe people should be able to do what they want. I do believe you are born gay or straight and that those who claim to be bisexual just want to try what they consider new. I am right there with you goat. I had my first experience with a boy looking up my skirt in kindergarden. I was a fast ass lol. We use to play house at naptime.
Plus last time I checked, “NO” is still a word that can be used.
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or as momma frankie put it…”on spelled backwards” that is my new saying this week. i had heard it before….but not in a long time when she said it.
yes it is still a word that is used. LMAO.
Kdub .. I watched the KeyCole show this weekend on re-runs .. and I must say.. Frakie pissed me off .. and Keyshia is a good one .. cause I would have cut her out my life ALONG time ago .. not in a disrepectful way .. but she would have been taken care of finacially and there would be NO contact with her …
Thats how I live my life .. and YES i can relate.. as my mother had/has an alcohol prob.. gave me away at the age of 3 DAYS old and my G-mom raised me .. and IS my MOTHER.
My biological and I have LIMITED contact and thats how I like it … and it will ALWAYS be that way..
I’m not saying FOR or AGAINST…but I have a question…You see how ppl say gay marriage is illegal based on the Bible…then why is adultery not against the law. I think we should take it one step further and since the Bible mentions in more than one place about adultery being wrong…if someone cheats in their marriage, they should be carted off to jail. Maybe that’s why people cheat so much…because they CAN! And then maybe marriages would last longer is adultery was illegal. IMO
This is a very serious subject. You could hate it or love it. I for one do not believe that people are born gay. I do believe it’s a choice. God doesn’t make mistakes. He gives us our own minds to make sound judgment and choices in our lives. I do understand that there are various religious beliefs and everyone will have their opinion on so many things that plauge our lives daily. I don’t know the BIBLE (Basic Instructions Before Leaving Earth)as well as I’d like to debate on this issue. I do know that marriage is made for a man and a woman, without a doubt. God is not pleased with the way “man” has removed him from almost all aspects of our daily lives. Congress want to take “In God We Trust” off of our money. He’s been removed from our schools and the list goes on and on. Now this- gay men and women wanting the same rights as heterosexuals.
If any of you read your bibles you will see that we are living in the last days and we should be getting our lives in line with Christ. This is MY thoughts and My opinion. I am in no way bashing anyone elses’ thoughts or religion. This is just a blog where we can vent. Don’t take it personal. If you do thats on you.
@ mspeng. In some states, like GA, adultery actually is illegal as well. My dad found that little detail out the hard way. You’d be surprised at what laws are out there that aren’t always upheld.
Maema polygamy was accepted in the Old Testament. When Christ was asked about it, he spoke against it. That was the difference between the law and the blood.
Excuse me, one of the differences.
Thanks kal .. I was going to type that .. but you beat me too it ..
@ Kymystry,
I watched KeyCole over the weekend too and Frankie has to forgive herself first for her bad choices in life. She should take the time now to make it right and live life to the fullest! She started to piss me off as well, then she would turn around and say something fnny! Especially that My, my, my saying.
Side bar: Has anyone viewed the post of Beyonce and Justin Timberlake? It is too funny!
@ MrsJ .. I just can’t find ANYTHING funny about her … I try .. and I can’t … She needs to forgive herself .. work on herself ..
my tolerance level for foolishness is miniscule … lol .. i’m praying for more tolerance as I type … lol
“God doesn’t make mistakes.”
If this is true, then why is being homosexual wrong. Most people who believe this statement, believe that your life is not a coincidence. It is already mapped out before you were even born, by God himself. So if God doesn’t make mistakes, then why is being homosexual a sin?
Keep your religious beliefs out of the lives of others. Having a wedding in a church does not make that marriage legal. Your church/religion has no say on what the state recognizes as a marriage, so your church/religious views should not be considered when it comes to 2 consenting tax paying adults.
Why are you a self hating lesbian, Sandra?
God has given us the power to make a choice……..And EVE chose to bite the apple……….Temptation is a helluva drug………
and Adam CHOSE to follow HER instead of God’s Voice …
after all Adam was given dominion over the Garden …
58Hermosa Says:
“God doesn’t make mistakes.”
If this is true, then why is being homosexual wrong. Most people who believe this statement, believe that your life is not a coincidence. It is already mapped out before you were even born, by God himself. So if God doesn’t make mistakes, then why is being homosexual a sin?
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What about the babies who are born that are not considered “normal or healthy”. When you try to ask ppl that question(GOD does not make mistakes) the answer is different than that of those not on the equal rights for gays/lesbian side.
@Kymy……..that’s my point about God leaving the temptations instead of removing them from ourlives……It’s alot things in life that we do wrong, because of the choices in life that we make, and will have to answer to God…….
God don’t make mistakes, we just make bad decisions…….
@ Anna
I agree, I think it’s ignorance. Religion can be interpreted so many different ways. People are to quick to throw the bible in people’s faces when it benefits them.
I understand that some people feel that it is a sin and marriage should be between man and women but that’s your opinion. The government of this country is supposed to protect and be equal to every citizen.
This is 2008 !!!
So Wanda coming OUT is like the tobacco industry saying “Cigarette-smoking Can Cause Cancer” DUH !!!!!
This is why religion and politics are such a sore subject because everyone has an opinion and ultimatly you agree to disagree. That’s my take on it.
ultimately
Well, there are a lot of us on high-horses today! I am not gay, my best-male-friend is. I love him, don’t judge him. I agree that marriage is betweena man and a woman.. ABSOLUTELY! Marriage is ordained by GOD, and recognized by man. Plain and simple. Why is a civil-union not good enough? That’s what gets me, if you simply want to be recognized, be entitled to benefits, etc. (which many states already allow) why is that not enough! Like that freak of a mess that calls him/herslef a pregnant man..and is fighting to have the hospital change him from mother to father! YOU GAVE BIRTH, you’re a mother..GET OVER IT. In my opinion, people like that are nothing more than selfish bastards..opportunists!
Question:
If one gay couple gets married, who on THIS board that agrees or disagrees, is NOT going to be able to: feed their children, pay their bills, buy their home, go to work, praise their GOD, breathe, smell, walk, stand up or sit down, talk, be happy, sad, mad, or crazy, sh!t, piss or cry?
prynsexxx Says:
Question:
If one gay couple gets married, who on THIS board that agrees or disagrees, is NOT going to be able to: feed their children, pay their bills, buy their home, go to work, praise their GOD, breathe, smell, walk, stand up or sit down, talk, be happy, sad, mad, or crazy, sh!t, piss or cry?
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That is the whole point. Am I going to be judged when my time comes because I did not care if same sex marriages existed and I did not voice my opinion of how wrong it is. Wrong for who? This is a no win situation and I say if it does not apply to you find something else worth getting your blood pressue up for.
@Anna and prynsexxx………It never bothered me until after Prop 8 was passed and people started blaming the Black population of Cali, and trying to equate same-sex marriage to the Civil Rights movement……
goat76 Says:
@Anna and prynsexxx………It never bothered me until after Prop 8 was passed and people started blaming the Black population of Cali, and trying to equate same-sex marriage to the Civil Rights movement……
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I see your point. I keep forgetting about that. I live in Ohio. To equate that to the Civil Rights Movement is no comparsion.
goat76 Says:
@Anna and prynsexxx………It never bothered me until after Prop 8 was passed and people started blaming the Black population of Cali, and trying to equate same-sex marriage to the Civil Rights movement……
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Trust me I understand totally about THAT and the Civil Rights thing. But I would HATE for somebody to come and tell me that THE GOOD DICK that I get from my dude is wrong.
*over here feeling like I was the star performer in a Cirqu Du Soleil show*
None of us should be left to vote on equality. That was California’s mistake. If you sit around waiting for the people to give you “rights”, you’ll wait a long arse time.
I don’t care to argue whether gay is a choice or straight is a choice. DOESN’T Matter. Equality is a RIGHT.
Sandr going hard on her family. Wow
Sandra, u r one interesting individual.
Californians took a vote to oppose gay marriage. That’s how a democracy works. The people of California have spoken
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Someone’s right should never put on a ballot. Thats how i’ll see it.
This is one of those subjects that I just don’t have the energy and brain cells to discuss. I know that the bible has so many interpretations, it’s almost stupid to even try to use it to justify your belief.
However, I am a strong believer of “common sense”.
You have a woman that’s with a man. She sleeps with him, have sex with him, have babies with him, and never marries. Then she meets another man, have babies with him, never marries.
You have a woman with a woman. She sleeps with her, have sex with her, adopt/surrgate children with her, and wants to get married.
ok, i just lost where I was going with this because I had to transfer my money on mafia wars…
My point is, society can’t say one thing is wrong, and one thing is right. We can have abortion, but two people can’t marry each other? It’s ok to teach kids about homosexuality, but it’s not ok for them to grow up and want to be that?
If you are going to use the bible to express points, use the “whole bible” because if you are going to pull scriptures from Leviticus - one of the law books, then we might as well be following everything they do, and that would include being stoned to death…
ok, back to mafia wars
Since the bible was written by men…
And ain’t NO MAN’S MOUTH A PRAYER BOOK…
I say bump what the bible say about “marriage”…(and everything else)
Its suppose to be a seperation of “Church and State” in this country ANYWAY…
So, I think ALL MARRIAGE SHOULD BE CONSIDERED ILLEGAL…and anything ELSE that’s a law with even a HINT of the Bible in it…
I always say that the worse evil in the world uses the bible to prop it up…
This crap right here quantifies my thought…
And before you start wondering…yes, I believe in God, and I pratice what Jesus…preached…
What I DON’T believe in…
Is man…
This world is screwed up in soooo many ways… Where do I begin…O well just let people live there damn life! I say how about a asteroid hit the earth and kill everyone! Then there won’t be anymore complaints! Any takers?
JMO
I am straight but I say live and let live.
Skee Wee Wanda!
missnee Says:
Why are you a self hating lesbian, Sandra?
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Who said sandra was a lesbian
I kid I kid, i have no idea
I agree with Ms. Sandra on this one.
I really think that everyone involved in the discussion specific to Prop 8 should read up on the facts. Noone is denying a right. Supporters of Prop 8 were asserting theirs. Civil Unions are still in full effect. IMO noone has the right to protest, criticize or attempt to intimidate me for expressing my belief and relationship with GOD. Live and let Live, from both sides.
I respect everyone, but I ain’t going to hell for NOBODY. And for those that don’t believe in the bible…there really is no discussion to have.
missnee Says:
Why are you a self hating lesbian, Sandra?
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I didn’t know I was self-hating, sweetie. I don’t think it’s self hate to say that I’m not rallying behind every gay cause just cause I’m gay. Like Charles says, as gays we should fight for necessities like insurance coverage for same sex significant others.
starr Says:
Someone’s right should never put on a ballot. Thats how i’ll see it.
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I agree that it should never have been on a ballot in the first place. Marriage is a heterosexual institution and it’s been that way for hundreds of years. Gays cannot be man and wife in the literal sense of the word. So that’s why there are civil unions as an alternative to marriage for gays.
I agree that it should never have been on a ballot in the first place. Marriage is a heterosexual institution and it’s been that way for hundreds of years. Gays cannot be man and wife in the literal sense of the word. So that’s why there are civil unions as an alternative to marriage for gays.
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But with people being petty and the bandwagon effect it creates the image that gays want to have their cake and eat it too