Video: Single Mothers Destroying the Country?

Sandra Rose January 13, 2009

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Ann Coulter appeared on The View yesterday to promote her new book.

I find it interesting that the controversial right wing author thinks single mothers contribute to the escalating crime rate and the general decline of morals in this country.

And by “single mothers” you know she means black women. Funny thing is, I was going to post a video last week from a brother named Thugtician who basically lectures black men to stay away from black single mothers for the same reasons that Ann Coulter spouts.

Since I’m posting the video from yesterday’s The View, I might as well post his video too.

Thugtician makes some valid points. He theorizes that communities with households run by women tends to breed hordes of aimless, backward, under achieving men with no purpose in life.

On the other hand, in communities where the women know their role and respect the man as the head of the home ….

Never mind. Forget it. In an effort to remain positive and non-opinionated this year, I won’t share my views on this subject.

Kymystry

Hilarious … friggin HILARIOUS … I’m GLAD i can’t see this mess ..

Thugtician ? ? ? Please STAY away from my single mother black azz … lol
http://myspace.com/lorettadivine DivineBrown

I can’t see the video but I will tell you…I feel like “single mothers” have more focus than I do because they have mouths to feed.

I have friends that are on the GRIND FOR REAL and I admire them for it. There are days, I just go home and go to sleep b/c I’m worn the hell out from work. I don’t know how they do it alone but it’s definitely something to marvel at.
PAGESINADIARY

ANN IS SUCH A BITSCH. SHE REMINDS ME OF HASSELBECK ON THE VIEW
kwallace577

thugtician offered some insight? thugtician has views and an opinion? on raising sons?

mr. thugtician. ummmm.okay.
CaramelDrop

Thugtician please don’t pass your judgments of your mother off on single black mothers….my grandmother raised 3 MEN and none of them are “aimless, backward, under achieving men with no purpose in life”.

However my brother and I came up with BOTH PARENTS and my brother is as spoiled and indecisive as they come.
CaramelDrop

Ann Coulter aka Kigali on boss!P
bloggergirlz

m’fers act like these women are getting pregnant by themselves…get the f’ck out of here w/ that BS…there are a lof of reasons women become “single” mothers…

Thugtician…mmmmkay
CaramelDrop

WAS BARACKS MOTHER A SINGLE MOTHER?
http://myspace.com/eastpointvet eastpointvet

its not the single mothers to blame its the sorry negros that left them as single mothers
Daisy

I have my DVR set to record the view daily. I will watch this ep from yesterday this evening I heard it was good. Ann C irks me almost as much as Elizabeth on the view. I was so glad Rev Wright called her a ditzy blonde!
kwallace577

Thugtician makes some valid points. He theorizes that communities with households run by women tends to breed hordes of aimless, backward, under achieving men with no purpose in life.
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this is just an oxymoron. somebody named thugtician has the nerve to talk about being aimless and a man with no purpose in life. amazing.
BLACKBARBIE404

I’D RATHER NOT WATCH THE VIDEO. SOUNDS LIKE A BUNCH OF BULLSHYT!
Kymystry

EASTPOINT .. I HEART U … TODAY
Buttercup417

I have views about single Motherhood that I was going to keep to myself but here it goes. I personally will not be a baby Momma end of story. Now I know that things happen people get divorced etc.. And I know that it takes two. Be responsible don’t let no man walk down the street to be able to call you his baby Momma. Single Motherhood sucks sometimes I know. Keep your legs closed and you won’t have to worry about what people say about you!
http://myspace.com/thegameoncw Bird

I absolutely believe that single parenting is at the root of many problems in this country. Most people know that is not an ideal situation. But I also believe our current trend of both parents working outside the home is causing problems with the rearing of our children as well. Daycare sees our children more than we do. Nothing good can come of that. That is just my opinion and I have been a single parent for 17 years.
h0tsauce

ill pass.
SlimA

@divinebrown.
If I don’t get a power nap after work, I can be a bear. My friends no not to call when I first get home for an hour or so. I applaud my all my friend who are mothers. I always tell my friends that if “I had children one of us would starve and it wouldn’t be me.” A sister don’t have time to cook, let alone lay out clothes for the next day, check homework and listen to what little Billy did in class today. Marty Mart love the kids though.
SlimA

I meant know.
Anna

9eastpointvet Says:

its not the single mothers to blame its the sorry negros that left them as single mothers
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So ture. Some ppl don’t realize that there are also two parent households where the father does not help out at all. Maybe paying a bill/or playing “babysitter” to his own kids. I know many married woman who are also single parents.
Kymystry

what EXACTLY is a Thugtician .. a Thug that Does HAIR like on Queen Latifiah’s Beauty Shop … does he drink his tea with his pinky up … dance to Salt & Peppa’s I’ll take your man ? ? i mean .. THUGTICIAN ? ? … what IS it ?

a Thug who’s a Magician .. can he pull a Blunt outta his hat … can he saw a single mother in half … can he float his ari force ones in mid air ? ? ?
Diva2127

CaramelDrop Says:

WAS BARACKS MOTHER A SINGLE MOTHER?
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Technically yes and no, she remarried, but there were spurts in his child hood when it was just them, hence when she was on welfare. This brings me to my opinion on this issue I feel that if you are a single mother you are obligated to find a positive male role model to be consistently in your child’s(male/female) life. Barack had his step father and grandfather. But even though he struggled behaviorally as a young man, due to the absence of his real father those lessons that influence was what he was able to fall back on, and not go completely by the waste side
Diva2127

Buttercup417 Says:

I have views about single Motherhood that I was going to keep to myself but here it goes. I personally will not be a baby Momma end of story. Now I know that things happen people get divorced etc.. And I know that it takes two. Be responsible don’t let no man walk down the street to be able to call you his baby Momma. Single Motherhood sucks sometimes I know. Keep your legs closed and you won’t have to worry about what people say about you!
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Totally agree!!!!!!!!!!!!!11
Ielon

Are you two serious Diva2127 / Buttercup417
heavn_sent

Did Kym say..A THUG that does hair!! LMAO!!!!!!
PAHairston

Hello All. This is such a touchy subject for many. (Someone on this page once told me to STFU when addressing this heated issue.) I was a single mother at 33 and I raised a male that is now a senior at Stanford University. (He doesn’t have my last name so you can’t look him up.) I raised him in the murder capital of the world, Washington DC. It was hard and many nights I cried myself to sleep but if I had to do it all over again, I would in a heart beat.

Again, the problem is single women, ESPECIALLY poor, single black women, choosing to have 3,4,5 babies by as many different men. Often times these women end up not being able to take care of these children and the govt, or relatives have to step in. (Last wk a single mother left her 3 yr old, 2 yr old and 5 month old alone for hrs, filthy in a filthy apt. They took her babies from her. There are many stories like this one, some much worse) Shouldn’t children have rights to a good, solid, clean home and foundation?

Teach our young girls that their bodies are their temples and let NO ONE violate it. Teach them to hold on to their virginity and one day, the right man will come along and worship her to death. Trust me, when a man has a woman no one else has had, he usually does worship her because he can’t stand the thought of someone else touching her. It sounds old fashioned but old fashioned values are often good, productive values that work!

I could go on and on but I realize I may be stepping on some toes here, hurting folks feelings. Again, what about our children’s feelings and lives? Don’t they matter? My Momma, God rest her soul, once told me that a woman with children needs a man in the home even if he’s just standing in the doorway with his draws on. (One that isn’t violent pray tell.) I think women’s lib helped put us black women in this predicament. ” F@uck you, I don’t need no man, I can raise my son myself.” Does this sound like you? Well girlfriend, a child, especially a male, often needs a male around to relate to. My son has issues today because he didn’t get to know his father and trust me, it ain’t all his father’s fault.

Now I’m gonna make er body angry on this board. Who messed up the order of things? The white man and the black woman. And I am a black woman. It’s the choices we make in life that often come back to haunt us.

Now rake me over the coals and call me every name in the book but a child of God, which I am. Peace. (I just love children and they deserve better.)

I’m just saying, for what it’s worth. Peace.

One last thing. Have you all ever heard of “Babyland” in Memphis TN? Google it, it will make you cry.
Diva2127

Ielon Says:

Are you two serious Diva2127 / Buttercup417
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which thing that i said are you hazy on/ questioning?
http://myspace.com/thegameoncw Bird

9eastpointvet Says:

its not the single mothers to blame its the sorry negros that left them as single mothers
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Moms have to take responsibility. We picked those sorry fathers and blessed them with children when we weren’t married to them. I’m over blaming the men for everything. I take responsibility for my actions and just try to do the best I can. My brother and cousins were/are outstanding role models for my 17 year old whose father is totally absent and my 4 year old has her father and future stepfather to guide her. Unlike my 17 year old she will also get to see how a relationship works. I just have to pray my oldest doesn’t go through too much crap with men before she learns on her own how to do it.
Kymystry

SOOOOO .. to avoid being labeled a single mother .. what do you suggets divorced women do ? … women who choose to have a child without a man ? .. women who were raped and decided to keep the child … widowed women who are raising children … single father’s do the get the same lecture .. keep in in your pants ? I’m saying .. it’s easy to speak about things you know NOTHING about .. Marriage dosen’t guarantee the father will be there .. and THAT MUCH I KNOW ?
Kymystry

back to decoding what a Thug-Tician is … is he a Thug who is a Mathmatician ? can he sipher up how many stacks he has ? ? ?
prynsexxx

Isn’t Sarah Palin’s daughter Bristol, a single parent?
C.O.A Retained

@kym and east point

I you so much right now..

@anna

I soooo cosign to that. Who babysists their own kids?? If that’s the case.. call me a jamaican cause I’m an accountant, a cook, a maid a babysitter and a tutor. Quit playing.

@buttercup

Sweetheart…

It has nothing to do with keeping your legs closed. Not only do people get divorced, people get sick and die (creating a single mother), men go off to Iraq for endless tours which ( creates a “single mother”) In theory, I am a single mother because I’m not married. My kids are very smart and very well loved. It has nothing to do with WHO is raising the kids but HOW they are raising the kids. Two parents can phuck up a kid. One bio parent and a step parent can phuck up a kid. Two same sex parents can phuck up a kid. People are always trying to put people in boxes and categories. There is no rhyme or reason to shyt nowadays. If people continue to believe this as true.. it will be.

Auntie-
While I agree that alot of women don’t respect the man as the head of the home.. it is also because ALOT of them don’t deserve said respect. MANY ( not all of ya’ll) spend endless hours in front of the xbox/wii/PS2 whatthephuckeva and expect to still be viewed as a man. Video games are for da chillren. Womens roles have been warped over the years to be a combination of our role and theirs… so don’t place the blame solely on women not knowing their role. Maybe we just play both too well.
Mississippi16

My mom was a single parent w/ 3 kids.

Older brother – is a Chief in the Navy.
Myself – College Degree and pursing masters
Younger Brother – working on PHD and high school head football coach (He’s only 29)

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It’s not the single parenting that’s ruining the community. It’s all the dope that YT is dropping of in the hood.
Diva2127

Kymystry Says:

SOOOOO .. to avoid being labeled a single mother .. what do you suggets divorced women do ? … women who choose to have a child without a man ? .. women who were raped and decided to keep the child … widowed women who are raising children … single father’s do the get the same lecture .. keep in in your pants ? I’m saying .. it’s easy to speak about things you know NOTHING about .. Marriage dosen’t guarantee the father will be there .. and THAT MUCH I KNOW ?
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Without saying these people have no choice. I lecture no one.
http://myspace.com/thegameoncw Bird

PAHairston

PREACH DAMMIT!!
Ielon

You know what, I can’t see the video so maybe I’m missing but that whole statement Buttercup417 made contradicts itself…so Diva I’m sorry but buttercup you have to be ugly to say some shit like that. Make a point and stick with it.
SlimA

@PAHairston

I’m with you on this one, this is the reason I don’t have children, because I refuse to raise them alone.
coaretained

just cause it’s in moderation I’m posting it again

@kym and east point

I you so much right now..

@anna

I soooo cosign to that. Who babysists their own kids?? If that’s the case.. call me a jamaican cause I’m an accountant, a cook, a maid a babysitter and a tutor. Quit playing.

@buttercup

Sweetheart…

It has nothing to do with keeping your legs closed. Not only do people get divorced, people get sick and die (creating a single mother), men go off to Iraq for endless tours which ( creates a “single mother”) In theory, I am a single mother because I’m not married. My kids are very smart and very well loved. It has nothing to do with WHO is raising the kids but HOW they are raising the kids. Two parents can phuck up a kid. One bio parent and a step parent can phuck up a kid. Two same sex parents can phuck up a kid. People are always trying to put people in boxes and categories. There is no rhyme or reason to shyt nowadays. If people continue to believe this as true.. it will be.

Auntie-
While I agree that alot of women don’t respect the man as the head of the home.. it is also because ALOT of them don’t deserve said respect. MANY ( not all of ya’ll) spend endless hours in front of the xbox/wii/PS2 whatthephuckeva and expect to still be viewed as a man. Video games are for da chillren. Womens roles have been warped over the years to be a combination of our role and theirs… so don’t place the blame solely on women not knowing their role. Maybe we just play both too well.
Buttercup417

Ielon yes I’m serious! Listen I feel that first of all, All women should protect themselves! Stop, letting these guys bust one up in you! My focus is on me, a better job a better me! I feel women having all these babies are due to low self esteem. This is way deeper than just having a baby. Black women need to love themselves and then they will see what the result is. Men can smell low self esteem a mile away!!!!!
Kymystry

WHERE IS INTENSE MOCHA … she can put in words EXACTLY what I need said.

here we GO placing ALL blame on getting preganant on the Woman … relinquishing ALL responsibilites of the Man and his magic sperm … cause (in slavery vernacular) LAWD KNOWS I GOTS PREGGGNANT BY MY LONESOME .. MASSA I JEST DON’T KNOWS HOW IT ALL HAPPENED …

back to a Thug Tician … is he a Thug who’s a Mortician .. does he do Drive by’s and Embalm them all in the same night?
Naima

I know some dudes that were raised by 2 parents and they are a hot mess. Just don’t spoil you kids if there is 1 parent or 2.
Diva2127

Bird Says:

PAHairston

PREACH DAMMIT!!
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Co-sign!!!!!
prynsexxx

What works for me in MY household may not work for everybody else. Men should be held accountable as well. Let alone them KNOWING that a woman has 3, 4 and 5 kids and THEY MAKE THEIR CHOICES AS WELL!!!!!!!

A man can breed every day of the year if he wants to……A woman can only do it for 9 months at a time. Now tell me, who has decisions to make?
kalvonel

there’s enough blame to go around for everyone. the only solution is for parents (BOTH) to take the responsibility and raise their kids to be responsible, self thinking, directed adults. We depend WAAAAAY too much on daycares, (trust me, my mother owns several, public schools and TV. The only difference in a single household than one with two parents is the head count. Both situations take WORK that is not easy by any means. Why some folks seem to think raising children is just a “while they are in my eyesight” job is puzzling.
http://myspace.com/lorettadivine DivineBrown

A good friend of mine came from the HOOOOOOOOOOOD…SINGLE PARENT HOUSEHOLD, doesn’t even KNOW WHO HIS DADDY IS.

That mu’fugga has a Mathematical Engineering degree and a bomb A$$ job in Cali. He is so ill with it!
Kymystry

GASH DARN IT PRYNNNNN .. !! (in my Madea voice) .. HALL-LA-LEW-ER !!
Ielon

@37 you know what you’re kinda p*ssing me off and I was having a good day…
http://myspace.com/lorettadivine DivineBrown

Single mothers don’t ruin the world….

BALLS AND SPERM DO! GET IT RIGHT!
BLACKBARBIE404

LMBAO @ KYM!!!!!!!!!

back to a Thug Tician … is he a Thug who’s a Mortician .. does he do Drive by’s and Embalm them all in the same night?

NOW THATS A CLASSIC!!!!
Mississippi16

@ Diva and Buttercup… don’t judge.

It was healthier for me to be a single parent than to continue to raise my child in the HELL that i was in.

I stayed as long as I did so that my daughter would have a two parent household.

Shyt got so bad that i had to pull a gun on her dad in front of her.

Now tell me which is worse… a single parent household full of love and peace or a home that’s fuked up and kids grow up to repeat the dysfunction.
http://myspace.com/eastpointvet eastpointvet

@coretained

Wii is for everyone lol even my mom plays
prynsexxx

Oh and @37

Not all women have 2, 3, 4, 5 babies. I haven’t been pregnant since 2/19/1995 @ 759 pm to be exact!
bloggergirlz

damn miss…that’s real talk…
Buttercup417

I guess I stepped on some toes. Sooooooo To all the single mothers in the world Good Luck!
Shauny

Anything situation can make you a single parent so this is a sticky subject. I am not a single parent but I know some hard working single parents who are divorced, a parent died, and some that the father left or was never there.

If you get divorced….call it what you want but your ex is your baby daddy.

I was raised by a single mom and me and both of my siblings are fine, no jail, with educations and steady career gigs. I know plenty of 2 parent families that have kids that are rapist, murderers, car jackers etc. Having 2 parents raising a child don’t always guarantee crap.

It’s up to the parent that is raising that child to try to instill the best morals and values in the kid before he/she leaves the nest.
Ilovepink1981

I’m sticking with the phrase, it takes a community to raise a child.. or something to that affect. Some women can not help being single parents . While some are good at it others are HORRIBLE and I know a few. Pycho’s come from homes with both parents too.
Diva2127

so Diva I’m sorry but buttercup you have to be ugly to say some **** like that. Make a point and stick with it.
———————————————————–Granted you said sorry, to me. i think because i agree on the exceptions. but to then make this comment. So only ugly people have values or moral standards they try to stick to.
bloggergirlz

i think the problem is people try to group all single mothers into one category…you cannot do that nor is it fair…AND THIS IS COMING FROM SOMEONE W/OUT KIDS…i have friends/relatives that run the gammut of being single mothers…their circumstances and situations are different…
coaretained

@buttercup

I have 3 kids and my self esteem is just fine. I love myself.. but I love my children WAY more. Why? Because they are an extension of me. Not just an extension of their father. I do know broads that have all these babies to stay on welfare or just plain ol “keepanicca” babies. But to make it seem like it’s some kind of epidemic is ABSURD!!! I am still with the father of my kids and I honestly don’t think that matters. Luv him to death, but I bet my kids would be fine if’n he wasn’t around. Just because some mothers don’t have that instinct in them does not mean that single (black) parent are the first sign of the damn apocalypse.
Mississippi16

@ 39 Naima… My crazy azz ex was raised in a 2 parent home.

Like Divine and Co said…
It’s not who’s raising the kids but how they’re raising the kids.
SlimA

@kymystry
back to a Thug Tician … is he a Thug who’s a Mortician .. does he do Drive by’s and Embalm them all in the same night?

You crazy as hell! Holla!
missnee

Please, ain’t no one hearing anything that mann coulter has to say.

I wish they would have kept her jaws wired shut waaaay longer than they did
coaretained

@eastpoint

I know it’s for everyone ( was supposed to get the FAMILY one for Xmas) but you’re digressing….
Ielon

@ I don’t have a problem with people sticking to their values or morals but you can’t take something you no nothing about and try to degrade people, for their situations…
BLACKBARBIE404

SANDRA – IS THE REGISTRATION OPEN OR CLOSED????

PLEASE CLOSE IT IMMEDIATELY!!!
prynsexxx

And having a “man” in the house just for show ain’t the biz either. What the hell is he teaching that child? To lay up all day while mommy goes to work. I mean damn. And @ buttercup, I don’t know but were your parents “together”?

My brother is married and all his children see is he and his wife arguing day in and day out. He hates that the kids have to see and hear that, but he doesn’t want to leave……….for the children. They raise their children with morals and they go to bible class and instill the fear of The Almighty in them, but can anyone of you on this board tell ME how these children are going to turn out?

Now I’m GIVING yall permission to JUDGE!!!!!!!

Don’t worry I’ll wait…….
Buttercup417

Thank You!!!!! What in the world!That’s why I am out of this conversation taking personal jabs. It’s o.k! and like I said I understand that people get divorced etc. Or can’t you read!!!!!! I know that there are situations which make you a single mother and I am not denying that!!!!! But to the other ones where all they know is to get pregnant is who I am speaking of! READ!
Kymystry

Thugtician … a Thug who’s a Politician …see Kwame Kilpatrick
http://taylordior.com taylordior

i agree with ilovepink…screwed up individuals come from one parent homes, two parent homes, grandparent homes, same-sex marriage homes, ALL types of homes…and the same goes for successful individuals. there are no guarantees…

look at the olsen twins…they are proof that despite your upbringing, you can grow up to go many different ways…one dropped out of NYU, one had a bad eating disorder, one was known for taking drugs or wateva was wrong wit her lol…they had the same parents, similar lifestyle while growing up, but different paths taken in the end!

http://www.taylordior.com
heavn_sent

Knew this was going to be a good one! Kym, I’m still crying over here..
BUT SERIOUSLY..who are these people?? Shut your legs? Are you serious. My ex and his sibs have two parents..3 of the 4 are screwed up. An anomaly? I think not. It’s not the number of parents, it’s the quality of the parenting..It’s recognizing that children are people..individuals and putting thier needs before your own. It’s knowing when your child needs tutoring, counseling, or an azz whipping! It’s just not as simple as we want to make it out to be.. AND PAHairston..(good grief..how old are you..but that’s neither here nor there) I’m in DC too, so I know the struggle. I’m a product of a single-mother (well, she remarried, but she might as well have been single) and of DCPS. I get your point, but the reality is…
kwallace577

But I also believe our current trend of both parents working outside the home is causing problems with the rearing of our children as well. Daycare sees our children more than we do. Nothing good can come of that.
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my mother said they were ridiculed as children. why? because they had a mother who worked outside the home. nobody else they even knew remotely… had a working momma. it was UNHEARD OF. not only did my grandmother work outside the home…she had TWO jobs. extra ridicule.

i disagree of nothing good coming of that. alot of good came of that. it is still coming 60 years later…..the work ethic that my mother saw in THEIR mother was passed to me and my cousins who are now instilling it in our children.

generational work ethic. the lack of THAT is what is destroying the country.
SlimA

@ Buttercup417

I know where you are coming from. Man down!
goat76

There is no way, my dad can justify not being in me and my sisters lives…..(He ain’t dead or locked up)…….

What ever was going on between my mom and dad….doesn’t mean he don’t have to do his part….
coaretained

REad?? I read everything you said.. and addressed the points I took issue with. How about you clarify your definition of single parent. One parent in the household? One working parent? Two parents that aren’t married… I’m not understanding WHO you are talking to.

Auntie-

Did you let some hoe’s in the family or something?? Who is buttercup talking to??
kwallace577

SANDRA – IS THE REGISTRATION OPEN OR CLOSED????

PLEASE CLOSE IT IMMEDIATELY!!!
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WHO IN DA HAIL LEFT THE GATE OPEN????

walk to the end of the driveway and CLOSE IT.
http://myspace.com/thegameoncw Bird

DivineBrown Says:

A good friend of mine came from the HOOOOOOOOOOOD…SINGLE PARENT HOUSEHOLD, doesn’t even KNOW WHO HIS DADDY IS.

That mu’fugga has a Mathematical Engineering degree and a bomb A$$ job in Cali. He is so ill with it!
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Yes, but as we all know he is definately the exception in his hood. I don’t even know what hood he is from and I know he is the exception. The hood comes with it’s own set of problems. Couple single motherhood with the ghetto and your son’s chances of going to prison or premature death is hella high. I wouldn’t recommend being a single parent to anyone. It’s very difficult and very stressful. Sure all marraiges don’t work, but that doesn’t mean throw the towel in on it before you even get to that point.
Buttercup417

Thanks I’m out I will just stick to the lighter subjects where my opinions are more on the funny side. Love you all!!!
bloggergirlz

awwwww sh!t…
bloggergirlz

dont start no sh!t, wont be no sh!t…damn buttercup, you just got knocked the f’ck out…
BLACKBARBIE404

BTW – LAST TIME I CHECKED, BUSH DESTROYED OUR FAILING COUNTRY!
Kymystry

ok .. last one on Thug-Tician before I go home …

a Thug who’s an Electrician .. he can wire up the flat screen he just stole for u outta the babrber shop ..

he can get u a untrace-able elec meter .. don’t ask .. just make sure u take it off when u go to work..

and he can wire the HAIL outta a surround sound system in a pimped out ’76 Capris sittin on 26 with some a candy colored paint job
Buttercup417

I was talking to Ielon who tried to rip me a new one. and I said thanks to SlimA
Shauny

Changing the subject to something lighter…..

Did anyone hear that ATL Housewives have asked DeShawn not to return and is trying to make the forth housewife Tameka Raymond?

I thought the new beef with DeShawn and Sheree would’ve been entertaining.
ELove

@prynsexxx… I speaking to you BECAUSE you did ask for input AND if I’m not mistaken… No ONE’s in particular!!!
I WAS in a similar situation with my wife(now ex-wife) SHE was a drama-mama and ALWAYS insisted on arguing in front of my Daughter!!! I would plead with her NOT TO argue in front of the kids (She had a son – my stepson)

I FINALLY had to call it quits because my daughter grades started to suffer briefly AND my daughter REALLY wasn’t happy… And at that particular time MY Daughter’s Happiness was FAR MORE important than Mine

The continued arguing between Your Brother and his spouse WILL BE counter-production to ANY Amount of Values-n-Morals that they try to instill in them…

ACTION SPEAKS LOUDER THAN WORDS !!!!!

This is especially true when it comes to a child’s development and emotional-Stability-N-Balance IMO
prynsexxx

The thing of it is…..I do believe women should know when to stop, but damn do they really have to be looked down upon/judged b/c of it? I mean really.
kwallace577

let me get my “formerly a single parent…now married azz…to the daycare to pick up my child who never sees me.” before i incur a late fee of $30.

i GUESS i shoulda kept my legs closed huh? when i look at my girls tonight i suppose i will tell them that. “dayum you for making me a baby momma! i shoulda kept my legs closed”

yall play nice. for the looks of it…it is gonna be oogly.
aduvalprincess

Sandra, I really want to know how you feel about this subject. I am really curious to how you view this subject…
Mississippi16

Kymy…

A thugtician is a thug that
1. A thug that does hair
2. A thug that’a a mathemetician
3. A thug that does drive by embalming
4. A thug that does magic
5. A thug that drink his tea with his pink raised and sing I’ll take your man.
6. A thug that’s a politician

I’ll bet the answer is 5. Thugtician probably at home cooking dinner, waxing his ballz and waiting on his boo (Marcus)to get off work.
prynsexxx

E said:

my daughter grades started to suffer briefly

The continued arguing between Your Brother and his spouse WILL BE counter-production to ANY Amount of Values-n-Morals that they try to instill in them…
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I understand totally……..but did I mention that their son just skipped 2nd grade……..
coaretained

@87

dead. Dead I say!
prynsexxx

….meaning he was put up a grade
kwallace577

@ 86 maybe cholly is over there helping him with the waxing. i said shaving yassday but he is prolly a waxer. okay i am really gone. ***POOF**
Diva2127

My Problem is that people think that if a statment is made it’s a personnal attack. I know plenty of single mothers and friends/ asociates of mine that are in a bettr place being a ” baby momma”, my point here is to not strive for that tittle or think is ok to have. and for those that say ” no one strives for that title” yes they do ihave worked with young ladies and little girl that think that title is cute. Becasue that is all they see. My is that everyone should strive for better.
http://myspace.com/thegameoncw Bird

prynsexxx Says:

And having a “man” in the house just for show ain’t the biz either. What the hell is he teaching that child? To lay up all day while mommy goes to work. I mean damn. And @ buttercup, I don’t know but were your parents “together”?

My brother is married and all his children see is he and his wife arguing day in and day out. He hates that the kids have to see and hear that, but he doesn’t want to leave……….for the children. They raise their children with morals and they go to bible class and instill the fear of The Almighty in them, but can anyone of you on this board tell ME how these children are going to turn out?

Now I’m GIVING yall permission to JUDGE!!!!!!!

Don’t worry I’ll wait…….
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Well I don’t know know how they will turn out, but my nephew is a product of that type of poisonous environment and for now he is good. His parents put EVERYTHING into him and nothing into their relationship. He is a student on partial scholarship at Hampton U who will be marching in the Inauguration Parade. My half siblings also come from that kind of home and they are pretty messed up for various reasons. For one thing my father and step mother have identity issues and have broken their necks to keep them away from black people whom they both think are the scum of the earth. Well you can just imagine how that would screw up a black child so yeah my half siblings are mentally jacked up, but my nephew seems to be ok.
Naima

Women who stay in their play Sandra? Do you stay in your place.
Diva2127

sorry for typos^^
a_queen81

Anne Coulture is a hateful, racist, attention seeking bitch. Thugtician on the otherhand does make some valid points be them misogynistic in nature. I believe in the two parent household especially in the black community because the blackman is so essential in a child’s rearing, especially a man child. And of course a woman can do it on her own, it happens everyday, and there are many success stories, but this is not an ideal situation. It’s just not. And shoot, I hate ho’s too, and I just pray that I raise my daughter’s not to be one, and my son not to mess with none. I’m married and glad for it, because I know how much my single friends struggle. It’s hard out here for Black people. We need all the support we can get from fam and community.
starr

I knew dis thread was trouble from the minute i saw it@!!!!!
coaretained

@92

I’m sure we all know people like that… but I’ma need ya’ll new folks to watch your wording or you WILL get attacked. There are too many single mothers/fathers in this forum to go making generalized comments and not expect any lashes.

I will say .. we as black folks DO glorify the words babymama or baby daddy ( my guy is in my phone as muh babys favuh) but that is not a title I go around bragging about, but more of a personal intimate joke between us. That is not to say that single parents are the downfall of society though. Once again.. everyone does not fit into that category.
SMALONE

THEM LESBIAN BITCHES!! THERE JEALOUS..I WILL KICK THERE A$$!! HEY I’M A SINGLE MOTHER THAT’S ON THE GRIND EVERY DAY FROM 8-5!!
coaretained

if you guys want to make a difference and stop all this babymama shyt.. go volunteer and tell the youth who NEED to hear this.
Ielon

Buttercup it’s like this, there are people out there who choose to have kids for their own reasons just as you choose to wait. To make a comment about particular individuals I believe is wrong without knowing their reasoning’s. A person that choose to open their legs as you say to have 3-4 kids would it make a difference if that person is well off in their career and choose to be a single parent
http://myspace.com/thegameoncw Bird

Night night guys. Brush off all those hard feelings. It’s just a discussion. Of course we have differant opinions. Don’t sweat it.
coaretained

@96

I believe in the two parent household especially in the black community because the blackman is so essential in a child’s rearing, especially a man child.

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Why is that? YT boys don’t need their daddys??
starr

As someone who comes from a single parent household, i am well on my way. Thank you very much. As for thugtician…no one with that name holds any credibility with me.
coaretained

@104

cosign… I’m mad I can’t see the video so I can throw darts at it. stupid azz name…
starr

As for ann coulter…….who takes her seriously. And sandra….fo reals…how could single parents being ruining the country? They are so far aways from the country’s BIGGEST problems
ELove

@prynsexxx… I know and I was speaking of long-term effect
BUT I’ll leave that alone. I was just being forthcoming and giving some insight on my situation that I thought was similar

Peace !!!
Anna

prynsexxx Says:

And having a “man” in the house just for show ain’t the biz either. What the hell is he teaching that child? To lay up all day while mommy goes to work. I mean damn. And @ buttercup, I don’t know but were your parents “together”?

My brother is married and all his children see is he and his wife arguing day in and day out. He hates that the kids have to see and hear that, but he doesn’t want to leave……….for the children. They raise their children with morals and they go to bible class and instill the fear of The Almighty in them, but can anyone of you on this board tell ME how these children are going to turn out?

Now I’m GIVING yall permission to JUDGE!!!!!!!

Don’t worry I’ll wait…….
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Each kid is different, one kid may see mom and dad fighting and can’t wait to go off to college. Another kid may think it’s all their fault and can’t cope. Material things don’t raise a child(it only keeps them entertained so parents don’t have to parent 24/7). Noone knows how their child is going to turn out. I don’t care how smart they were growing up or how obsessed with the opposite sex they were. Kids learn by example. If a kid sees parents fighting all the time it does not mean that is what they will chose. If a girl is sexually active in her young years does not mean that she will continue later. Our job as parents is not just to say “because I said so”, but to listen. Kids don’t know what they want, but most do know they need boundaries and guidence.
Buttercup417

I agree @97 with your statement and that was sort of my point I am not a single mother hater I was speaking of the ones who get pregnant over and over again! When their kids grow up they will think that that’s okay that is all that I am saying! It’s the cycle I’m afraid of!! Not the actual single mothers how ever they have become to be!:)
CaramelDrop

PAHairston YOU HAVE A GOOD POINT BUT I’M SORRY LIL NICCAS ARE LOOKING FOR “BUST IT BABIES” AND “BUSY BODIES”

As for all of you women that think you need a two parent household or enormous amounts of income to raise “wholesome” children you should watch the movie Havoc.

As for all of you woman that think you need a man to raise YOURS I feel so sorry for you. I am a proud 28 year old single mother of 3 – MINES DONT MISS SHIT! I make sure of that. Oh! I live in the hood because that’s what the phuck I can afford w/o child support OR FOOD STAMPS OR CCMS (if you live in Dallas and are selling some I WILL BUY THEM) I do my job and some BECAUSE I LOVE MINE! THEY DID NOT ASK TO BE HERE – I CHOSE TO HANDLE MY RESPONSIBLITIES INSTEAD OF RUNNING TO THE ABORTION CLINIC. I wouldnt change a hoe ass thing THE LORD IS THE ADMINISTRATOR OF MY LIFE and I know he has humbled me; made me wiser and given me something to live for through mine.

I drive 25 minutes in the opposite direction of my job to take my son to a better school. I take my baby girl to get her hair done, go shopping with just me and her even AT THE DOLLAR STORE if that’s all my pockets can afford. I play football with both of my son’s tackling and all whatever they want to do and if I cant Pastor Anthony Sharp and Reverend Sanford and TOP Dallas as well as COACH Tim of the Pleasant Grove Hurricanes will swoop in and help out WHEN I LET THEM. We dont have everything but we have each other and a piece of mind – hardship has given my son a perspective on money and material things. I shelter them but at the same time I give them the facts – not sugar coating them with bullshit. They know their dad is in jail for bad decisions hell if anything I make our (me and BABYDADDY) phuck-ups blue prints for how NOT TO LIVE AND SO FAR ITS WORKING.

Who I feel sorry for is you “sucka for love as hoes” that need a man to complete them. One moment your sad cause the nicca cheated on you A MONTH LATER YALL GETTING MARRIED AND YOUR LETTING HIM RAISE YOUR CHILDREN – DELUSIONAL MUTHAPHUCKAS

MY POINT: YOU GET OUT WHAT YOU PUT IN! If praying for a man to marry you is what drives you and your prayers – good luck with that. THAT’S WHY Y’ALL KIDS ARE BAD AS HELL AND CONFUSED AS PHUCK NOW
Buttercup417

WOWWWWWW!!!! Oh my!
prynsexxx

#92 said:

Well I don’t know know how they will turn out, but my nephew is a product of that type of poisonous environment and for now he is good.

#107 said:

Noone knows how their child is going to turn out.
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My point exactly!!!!!!!!!!

For that lady and that man and possibly some of the SR bloggers, saying that single mothers

“contribute to the escalating crime rate and the general decline of morals in this country”

is totally absurd. She doesn’t know and to make a generalization towards single mothers in that aspect is wrong.
starr

TELL IT SISTAH CARAMEL!!!!
Shauny

Dang, no success with the rookie trying to change the subject huh….lol

Yall got it heated up in here.
starr

@ Shauny……

these topics always go this direction lol
Shauny

@carameldrop

Girl I just went back up and read your post. PPPRRRREEEEAAACCCHHHH!!!!!!
coaretained

I’m outtie.. I’ll see ya'[ll niccas when I get home!!
coaretained

@caramel..

you my dawg for a reason
https://sandrarose.com Sandra Rose

Buttercup417 Says:

I personally will not be a baby Momma end of story.

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Thank you!! A woman controls her body. All she has to do is say “NO” and keep her legs closed. End of story. By virtue of being raised by a single mother, children are raised to believe promiscuity is okay and a man is not important in the home.
Buttercup417

I love You Auntie! You get me!:)
iyonah

Hey SANDRA — what is your story/background?
How did you grow UP? Did it DETERMINE who YOU turned out to BE?
iyonah

I don’t know your HISTORY but it seems like .. not even going to go there, just share your details with us ….
CaramelDrop

Auntie with all due respect – please dont ban me for MY OPINION.

BUT HOW IN THE HELL DO YOU THINK YOU SOUND TYPING “a single mother, children are raised to believe promiscuity is okay and a man is not important in the home”

AND YOU WEAR STARCHED DOWN JEANS AND LIKE GIRLS? WHAT THE HELL IS THAT TEACHING YOUTH?
http://myspace.com/necee518 yvonne79

WOW! Single mothers are destroying the country? Interesting

I tried to listen objectively to what Ann Coulter had to say but wasn’t able to finish the video. IMO, this chick is ignorance at its best. Everyone is entitled to their opinion however; how can you comment on being a single mother and you aren’t one? Rhetorical question….

Bottom line, single woman aren’t the ones to blame for destroying the country. As previously pointed out in the thread, it is all about the indiviual choice that determines the outcome. During my first year of college, I found out I was pregnant. After several discussions with my fiance and mother;it was determined that I acted recklessly and irresponsibly and I should own up to my actions. Can’t argue with that. Although I was engaged, the relationship didn’t last. Hey, stuff happens!

As Bird pointed out, this isn’t an easy job to have but someone has to do it. When the relationship failed (as many do,nothing is guaranteed), I made the conscious decision that I was going to be the best parent I could be with or without their father. There were days I would cry and scream; contemplating whether or not I made the best decision as it pertains to leaving my kid’s father. And there were days I would lock myself in my closet (that’s old school, y’all don’t know nothing about that)and pray to God that he gives me the strength and wisdom needed to accomplish the task at hand. I am a product of a single-parent household therefore I didn’t want that situation for my child. I know what it feels like to want a relationship with your father and the jerk isn’t there (but that is another story). I know I am rambling but my point is this:

NO ONE is personally responsibility for anything! For example, when men used to impregnant (sp) a woman, he did the honorable thing and married her. It was not cool to have a illegitimate/bastard child. Society says it’s acceptable to have a baby in different towns, cities, counties, states, etc. In addition to folks not taking personal responsibility for their actions, folks don’t operate in integrity anymore either. Look at our politicians, police, teachers, etc.

Instead of placing on others for issues or problems one is experiencing, look at yourself. Are you part of the problem or the solution?
http://myspace.com/lorettadivine DivineBrown

ROTFLMAO….
iyonah

SANDRA — DON’T BAN CARMEL EITHER, SHE IS ASKING A LEGITIMATE ? THAT A PROUD LESBIAN SHOULD BE ABLE TO ANSWER
melinla

These damn employees wanting to get paid are getting in the way of my posting…joking…I like my job and need it. But on another note, was a single mother until my daughter was 9 then my fiance picked up where the biological left off…although I was prepared to do it myself…I’m glad I have him to help. A strong woman can do it with or without a man…doesn’t make it right…but it can be done.
Mississippi16

@Sandra 118… You can’t say that. Society as a whole has relaxed it’s tolerance on promiscuity. Not just mama’s in the hood.

Single Mama’s don’t run networks but shows like Friends, Sex and the City (my favorite), Seinfeld, and others – show their characters having new sexual partners every 2-3 episodes.

Married people’s kids are having sex just like single parents. It’s naive to believe otherwise.
Shalala26

WHAT A SUBJECT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
melinla

Somebody show me how to make the cheerleaders for Caramel @ #109!!! I totally feel ya!!!
Mississippi16

Sarah Palin is:
1. Married
2. Under 45
3. Doesn’t live in an urban environment
4. College Degree
5. Professional job
6. A DAYUM grandmama with a teenage daughter that getting more dyck than me.
iyonah

AND YOU WEAR STARCHED DOWN JEANS AND LIKE GIRLS? WHAT THE HELL IS THAT TEACHING YOUTH?

^^^^

EXACTLY WHY I ASKED WHAT HER UPBRINGING WAS LIKE, SINCE PEOPLE ON THIS POST SEEM TO THINK THAT A CHILD HAS NO FREE WILL AND WILL DO ONLY AS HE OR SHE IS RAISED

A TWO PARENT HOME DOES NOT ENSURE ANYTHING MORE THAN A SINGLE PARENT HOME — YOU CAN DO BUT SO MUCH AS A PARENT, AS SOME POINT OR ANOTHER THE CHILD WILL MAKE HIS OR HER OWN CHOICES
Daisy

That made my head hurt. B A B Y M A M A this goes out to all my baby mamas I got love for all my baby mamas..lol
http://myspace.com/necee518 yvonne79

Sandra Rose says:
By virtue of being raised by a single mother,children are raised to believepromiscuity is okay and man is not important in a home.
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I can agree with this statement to a certain exist. My mother was a single mother. Four kids, three different fathers. My mother had 3 jobs- one in the day,one at night and one on the weekend.

By watching my mother, I didn’t learn to be “promiscious”. I learned to stay on my grind and be independant. Perhaps this is because the men she was involved with and married to DIDN’t say. Perhaps these words of wisdom came from a place of bitterness and hurt. But her words still ring in my ear today. My mother told me to not to depend on ANYONE, including her! No one is going to have my back like me. And you know what, she was right!
http://myspace.com/necee518 yvonne79

^Sorry for all the typos y’all…getting a little excited. this topic is SO taboo. I will try to proofread..lol
bloggergirlz

caramel you are my girl!
shanie

@Carmeldrop….

All I got to say is GET EM GURL…that was well said.
Kymystry

Carmel … I love u girl .. and Yvonne .. and all else who opened a Vein on this post .. it’s not easy .. and my son is in a GREAT school .. a GREAT corny kid.. who is respectful when i’m with him or not … did I do it alone .. no .. I was blessed to have 13 older brothers .. and 13 Uncles .. as well as His Father even tho we are’t together he is active in his life … he has BOTH grandfathers Alive .. so YES .. Im Blessed … and Yet . . it STILL WASN’T EASY .. and I STILL pull hairs wondering where this is coming from .. or that is coming from .. But to GOD be the Glory .. He ALWAYS makes a way outta no way … (Thank you Mom for that lil mustard seed of Faith you planted in me)
https://sandrarose.com Sandra Rose

iyonah Says:

Hey SANDRA — what is your story/background?
How did you grow UP? Did it DETERMINE who YOU turned out to BE?

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My mother and father were separated when I was 9. When I was 14 she married again. It was always important to her that a man be in the home to help raise my two brothers and me.
iscream

Woooooo thank goodness I’m under the dryer so I had a chance to read all the comments.

@ Carameldrop # 109 PREACH BISH PREACH GOT DAMN IT! I know of a woman who caught her dude cheating numerous times so she got knocked up. Him being a decent guy married her. But he just got caught less than 6 mnts b4.

@ topic I’m a single mother but my sons father is still around. I would never wish being a single parent on anyone if they can prevent it. Its a struggle & I aint going to lie.

But on the flipside if the father or the dads fam is around the single mom can have the best of both worlds. You get to help raise a great kid and you get breaks that married mothers don’t get. Married woman at my job are always saying how “lucky” I am. Shoot my son is staying with his dad now. From Monday till next Monday.
https://sandrarose.com Sandra Rose

CaramelDrop Says:

AND YOU WEAR STARCHED DOWN JEANS AND LIKE GIRLS? WHAT THE HELL IS THAT TEACHING YOUTH?

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For the last time, my jeans are not starched. I am not raising any children and my sexual orientation has nothing to do with this discussion. Since you asked: in my opinion, children should be raised in 2 parent homes. Ideally, one of those parents should be a man.
shanie

@Sandrarose

LOL….@For the last time, my jeans are not starched. That is too dang funny!!!
https://sandrarose.com Sandra Rose

iyonah Says:

AND YOU WEAR STARCHED DOWN JEANS AND LIKE GIRLS? WHAT THE HELL IS THAT TEACHING YOUTH?

^^^^

EXACTLY WHY I ASKED WHAT HER UPBRINGING WAS LIKE, SINCE PEOPLE ON THIS POST SEEM TO THINK THAT A CHILD HAS NO FREE WILL AND WILL DO ONLY AS HE OR SHE IS RAISED

A TWO PARENT HOME DOES NOT ENSURE ANYTHING MORE THAN A SINGLE PARENT HOME — YOU CAN DO BUT SO MUCH AS A PARENT, AS SOME POINT OR ANOTHER THE CHILD WILL MAKE HIS OR HER OWN CHOICES

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What does my sexual orientation have to do with this subject??? We’re talking about the escalating crime rate and the moral decay of our community. We’re talking about girls as young as 9 thinking it’s okay to have sex and get pregnant because mommy did it with many men. And we’re talking about young boys with no purpose in life, sleeping with other young boys because they had no father figure to love them. Let’s stick to the subject shall we?
Daisy

Where in the world did the starch jeans comment even come from. I notice its said alot. I guess its an inside joke!
shanie

@Daisy….

Girl I dont know but Sandra sure defends the comment when it is said which is so hilarious. I think it has something to do with the role she plays in her sexual orientation. But it is hilarious how she defends the statement.
http://myspace.com/thegameoncw Bird

CaramelDrop Says:

Who I feel sorry for is you “sucka for love as hoes” that need a man to complete them. One moment your sad cause the nicca cheated on you A MONTH LATER YALL GETTING MARRIED AND YOUR LETTING HIM RAISE YOUR CHILDREN – DELUSIONAL MUTHAPHUCKAS

MY POINT: YOU GET OUT WHAT YOU PUT IN! If praying for a man to marry you is what drives you and your prayers – good luck with that. THAT’S WHY Y’ALL KIDS ARE BAD AS HELL AND CONFUSED AS PHUCK NOW.
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I’m going to assume that I offended you and that is the reason for the sneak attack. My fiance is not a cheater (knock on wood). The dude we were discussing earlier was my baby daddy and the brief fling we had after his last breakup. Yes I did pray for a man. I stopped settling for the bull a decade ago so I needed God to send me someone and make it clear that he was was the one. I used to be down with the “I don’t need no damn man” crew, but that got old after a while. I wanted a good husband and I knew I could trust God to deliver that. Most importantly I had to get over the shame of wanting that. Ain’t that some mess? In our society admitting you want a mate is shameful despite the fact that as animals we are driven to mate. Even you think praying about a life mate is a bad thing. Good luck finding that on your own. Hopefully you don’t have to go through 20 years of butt holes like I did before you luck up on that good one. Now if you are content to be single for the rest of your life, that’s fine too. To each his own.

As for the rest of what you said, it darn near brought a tear to my eye. You sound like an exceptional mother despite your intolerance of the opinions of others that differ from yours. But please believe we are on the same team. We have the same struggles. I just happen to think it is better for families to be complete despite the fact that me and my daughters all come from broken homes.
http://myspace.com/necee518 yvonne79

@Daisy-in Sandra’s Christmas picture with her niece. someone made the comment that her jeans were starched…
iscream

Great Subject. Sandra you raked up in “money hits” today. Two topics with over 100 hits.

& its not just the yt ppl saying this mess. I remember Bill Cosby said this same bs a few years back…. Now was that before or after it came out he had that affair on Camille & may or may not have fathered a child.

Everything isn’t for everybody. We all have different views but that’s what makes us unique.

@ Sandra does Tiny & Monica know that you feel this way about them? I mean you put those two Baby Momma’s on pedelstools. Or even Solonge. Their photo’s should have been @ the head of this post.

Its talk like this that caused Brandy to lie about being married to her baby daddy.
shanie

@iscream

Great Point.
http://myspace.com/thegameoncw Bird

iscream Says:

Its talk like this that caused Brandy to lie about being married to her baby daddy.
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Thank goodness I don’t give a darn what people think. I can’t even imagine what kind of person she is. Like she must lie a lot to save face. I ain’t got no problem airing my dirty laundry because I know that EVERYONE has it. People can call me out on mine and I can call them out on their’s, but we all got it.
Daisy

@Bird Brandy said she regrets lying about being married. Her interview with Tyra (who IRKS me) was good.
http://myspace.com/tamarlese Peachizz

Sandra
OMG, I missed this today.
Well I am not a single mother or mother at all for that matter, but Ann Coulture, Whoopi told her right “she can dish it but she can’t take it”(enough with her she frequents Fox New, blowing shit outta her a$$ this is excepted from her.
What was alarming to me was this Thugtician (woman hating man).
“Independence is a euphemism for Sexual Liberation”. What is with these ppl.
http://myspace.com/thegameoncw Bird

I couldn’t even listen to all of the Thugtician video and I really tried. He just sounded like an idiot. Like what society is he referring to that didn’t know how children were made for several generations? How long does it take to figure out the females with periods who are doing the nasty are the ones having babies?
Daisy

@Peach I just watched the view from yesterday and whoopi read her azz and so did Al roker on the today show. Sherri checked her azz for talking to Bwalters sideways..lol She is trying to keep her job..lol
Daisy

Speaking of the View I cant say enough how Elizabeth IRKS me and makes me want to spit nails!!!!!!!!
iscream

I’m about to watch the View now. but Sandra are you saying that boys raised in single homes become gay? You can’t be serious, you can’t.

Sandra Rose said..
And we’re talking about young boys with no purpose in life, sleeping with other young boys because they had no father figure to love them. Let’s stick to the subject shall we?

Please tell me you were typing in anger because they called you out on your sexuality. Boys in Church have a harder time keeping they bootie tight than a boy in a single parent home.

& does this same sprew hold true for single fathers (yes they are out there) does that make their sons and daughters grow up to hate women?
Daisy

@isc let me know what you think about the View.
kcicero

Darn I missed a good conversation…oh well I would have been among the minority who pissed people off so I guess its best that I did. Headed off to watch the view.
heartbreaker

118Sandra Rose Says:

Buttercup417 Says:

I personally will not be a baby Momma end of story.

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Thank you!! A woman controls her body. All she has to do is say “NO” and keep her legs closed. End of story. By virtue of being raised by a single mother, children are raised to believe promiscuity is okay and a man is not important in the home.

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I am not about to read all of the comments…lol But does this apply to single mothers that openend their legs while being married? Sandra, you mentioned that your mother felt it important to have a man in the house as an influence… Is that a good enough reason to get married?
heartbreaker

Is that a good enough reason to get married?
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Did this solve the problem so she wouldn’t have to play the victim?
here4beer

i’m late as ever, but i think theres a big difference between single parents and single *teen* parents. I can get on board with a lot of Sandra’s comments if we’re talking about babies having babies, but not about single parents in general.
Kymystry

ok .. so from Sandra’s Logic… single mother’s raisng boys .. have son’s who will either have NO contribution to society or become GAY …. and girls raised by mother’s who NEED a man in the house will growu up become Lesbians who down every loving black couple and esteem baby Momma’s like TIny and Monica ? ? ? ?
https://sandrarose.com Sandra Rose

iscream Says:

@ Sandra does Tiny & Monica know that you feel this way about them? I mean you put those two Baby Momma’s on pedelstools.

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I didn’t say moms had to be married. I said there should be a man in the house. Two parent families doesn’t mean they have to be married. I have always said marriage is not for everybody.
https://sandrarose.com Sandra Rose

iscream Says:
Sandra are you saying that boys raised in single homes become gay? You can’t be serious, you can’t.

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I’m talking about men like Eddy Curry who has a wife and children but he’s f*cking the chauffeur. Boys need a strong father figure in their lives – in their homes that they can bond with in their formative years so they don’t have to grow up confused and looking for that bond in other men.
heartbreaker

Sandra Rose Says:

iscream Says:

@ Sandra does Tiny & Monica know that you feel this way about them? I mean you put those two Baby Momma’s on pedelstools.

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I didn’t say moms had to be married. I said there should be a man in the house. Two parent families doesn’t mean they have to be married. I have always said marriage is not for everybody.
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Sandra,

What about T.I & Rocko’s other baby Momma’s? Is it only their fault that they are in that situation?…
http://smokiesays.blogspot.com/ Smokie

WOW. I missed a lot. I better start coming around here more often. LOL

In my humble opinion, the blame lies on unready people getting together and making a baby. The blame lies on the woman and the man. The ONLY reason more blame is and should be placed on the woman is because without US the baby really wouldn’t be here. Yeah, it takes two to do the do, but if more women made responsible choices about who they were procreating with, the single parent dysfunction – it IS a dysfunction – would come to a slow crawl. WE WOULDN’T BE HAVING THE BABIES. Women could all ban together and stop the madness for real.

Men have much blame as well. Much. They aren’t there, or they aren’t RIGHT, or they themselves are fools nutting in the wrong women at the wrong time in life. The basic problem is that PEOPLE are having babies who are not prepared to have babies. Self included (Although I loved him and we were together, it would not have hurt to get married first and give myself TIME to see if I wanted to bring a child into the world with this particular man. I shouldn’t have just been like, “if I get pregnant, I get pregnant.” What?).

Values have shifted, times have changed, and soooo much emphasis is planced on who can “get it” now. People have to take more responsibility in raising their kids so that the cycle of broken homes filled with broken PEOPLE ends. We can make lemons out of lemonade all day, but until we realize and admit that we shouldn’t even BE with the lemons in the first place, we’ll never get anywhere as a people.
http://smokiesays.blogspot.com/ Smokie

lemons out of lemonade. you know what i meant!
http://smokiesays.blogspot.com/ Smokie

damn. LEMONADE out of LEMONS.

It’s 9:37 pm and smokie is doing her name. LOL!
https://sandrarose.com Sandra Rose

@ smokie:

Excellent points. I know a chick who can only make sense after she’s smoked a phat one.
missmiami

Ok, I’m late but will the old Sandra please come back!!!!! It’s your blog and there is nothing wrong w/you sharing your opinion. All this positivity and niceness is making me queezy.
versatile

Single mothers back in the day is not the same as single mothers today. Worst!!! You have these females with multiple children and different baby daddies. They have these kids and can’t even take care of the kids. Either their own parents are raising their children, most the time the grandparents can’t even handle these children. Or the kids are raising themselves or the street is raising their kids. I’m hearing what about the men, who cares. I’m not talking about the mothers out there that are divorced or or whatever the situation maybe, but these so called “mothers” that are having kids with men that could care less about them, or with men that already have 3 or 5 kids and they not even taking care of those kids, etc. I’m tired of the black community making excuses. Tired of these hoodrats running wild in the black community. Stop having kids if your not in a stable relationship or you know you can’t take care of kids.
iyonah

@ Sandra — what diff did you notice, between the time a MAN was there and a time he wasn’t???

Your sexual preference was mentioned because your post seems to IMPLY that an upbringing determines the future. I don’t agree with this at all – it contributes to it, but itdoesn’t dictate it. Saying a person is going to grow up and be a menace because he is in aoneparent home, is just as bad as implying that yoursexual oreintation is determined by your household. MY POINT, IS THAT ITS NOT!
lexdiamonz

WOOOOWWW single moms get blamed for everything … but guess what they still take ish and raise theirs so if you CHOOSE not to be a “babymomma” more power to you …. but for those who have no choice in the matter yet CHOOSE to step up to the plate like ole girl who just ripped this thread to shreds then more power to you… a man in the house sometimes is worse than a single mom.. i was raised by a single mom and i turned out DAMN good and my “cracked-out” homegirl who was abused by the MAN in her house her damn biological daddy nonetheless just disproved your theory and sandra is gay anyway so if we follow her “upstanding” moral example we won’t have these problems because two woman cannot procreate anyway… and how can a lesbian say you need a man in the house is that not an oxymoron LMFAO!!! anyhoo shout out to the single moms getting their grind on you produce presidents and kings it aint where you come from it’s where you go….please don’t ban anyone aunt sandy it’s all love
iscream

@ Sandra even if the fathers (TI & Rocko) are in the home, society still view the women as single moms. & as someone else stated. What about the kids whose mother TI & Rocko aren’t with. Will those kids grow up to be gay or end up in jail. (Don’t answer that bc I know TI and his “peeps” read)

this topic isn’t about single mothers its about irresponsible parents & there is a difference.
MistaO

This whole argument is a waste of time. Everybody with any modicum of sense knows full well that the average hardheaded female wouldn’t recoginze good sensical decision making if it smacked her in the head…

So no sense making argument or suggestion will register in their heads. Many are stuck on stupid because they’ve been rasied with that “can’t nobody tell me shid” mentalities. So they lay up with no good bums of men (boys) who they know full well aint about to marry them let alone take care of any child.

Plus the “single mother” has been promoted and glorified in the media and accepted as norm in the Black community. Notice, no other community promotes this as acceptable behavior except blacks…. Hmmmm…
Naima

And Sandra do you know your place as woman? You being a lesbian yourself in means that in traditional terms you don’t “know your place” in society. You are not serving a man and you are not reproducing.
Mississippi16

@ MISTA O…
some of what ur saying is dead on.

BUT the bottom line is… RELATIONSHIPS FAIL!!! THe moral DECAY of the BLACK COMMUNITY lies on the BLACK MAN cause many feel that once, they leave the relationship or the home, they don’t have to participate as much.

FUK da Baby Mama. You still have to play an active role in your kids LIFE. Your AZZ belong at Parent Teacher Conferences w/ Mama. Your AZZ need to be there talking to your lil girls about sex too. Your azz need to come over and whip some azz when the kids aint respecting mama. Yo azz need to get a 2nd or 3rd job and stop spending so much time at the CLUB/ HAPPY HOUR/ or in front of the WII/Playoffs.

To any nicca’s reading this board and not interacting with your kids at least 3-4 days outta the week, YOU R SORRY!!
Some of you SORRY niccas know every teams’s quarterbacks, Name, Jersey #, What college they went to, Jr. High they went to, all their stats… And don’t know what subjects ur kids are taking at school. Don’t know ur kids’ teachers names.

Where da FUK is ur priorities???
Kymystry

Say THAT Missip … say THAT …. my son came in my bedroom last night as a joke .. to talk to ME about sae sex … mind you he’s seen me with ONE man hs entire life and we are no longer together … I asked him where did this come from … so he said he was watching something on TV and thought it woul be unny.. we have that kind of relationship … anywhoooo … I opened my nightstand and gav him a condom .. he said .. what is that .. he of course was fronting … I Opened the condom showed him how to utit on … (using my fingers as a visual .. i don’t want some ignant biddy callin DYFS thinking i was puttin a condom on my son’s penis) … Now.. he’s withhjis father EVERY FRIGGIN SUMMER for 3 months .. and HE’S NEVER HAD THIS CONVO WITH HIS CHILD…. His father won’t email his teachers to check o his progress .. has NEVER been to my home to visit .. I make sure My son calls his dad .. keeps in touch the whole nine … Ask him about the sorry azz Dallas Cowboys or the Boston Celtics .. the Yankee’s … Jay-Z .. or some other hip hop foolishness .. he’ll rattle those things off … ask him for MY address . .he’ll say hold on .. let me call her … but it’s MY fault right …. GTFOH with that flawed thinking …
Mississippi16

KYMY… It’s ALLLL your fault!

They know who has beef.. 50 Cent beefing w/ this person, Jay Z beefing with this person… yada, yada, yada.

If your son beefing w/ kids at school and you don’t know nothing about it… U R SORRY!
Isla78

Whether or not someone is a lesbian has nothing do with how they raise a child. I haven’t posted on her for awhile cuz I lost my password but this convo got me heated. Single parenting is why the black community is in such disarray. Deal with it people.

No offense to single mothers, but most single mothers in the black community are struggling, contrary to what we have been brainwashed to believe. Black women have settled for being “baby mamas” instead of wives. Black children raised in two-parent households are better off than ones raised by single mothers.

Yes, there are single mothers who raise children who go on to Stanford, but honestly how many?? They are the exception and not the norm. The majority of black students in Ivy League schools in the country are African or children of immigrants. They are often raised in two-parent households. Our black males are suffering because of this baby-mama/daddy mess we have created.

There are more black women in college than black men. Most black colleges are predominantly female. It is so sad. These young black men need fathers in their lives. Black women, PLEASE wake up and stop having babies with these no-good men. Our children deserve so much better……..
Kymystry

lol@ Missip … yeah it’s my fault … kiss my azz with that and move the hell on …. let me go to another pos .. keep my pressure down today …. smooches

one more ThugTician reference before i leave …

A Thug who’s a statistician .. does he give you all probablities that he’ll marry a white or asian woman cause NO self respecting black woman would have HIS self hating azz

will He give you all stats and probabilities that his THUG TICIAIN azz is GAY and wants eddy Curry’s phone numb from Sandra.
Mississippi16

@180.. This is TRUE! But no one is saying that it isn’t hard or that this is the ROUTE to take. I think that anyone would advise against it.

When I take inventory of my family and friends… there is no magic recipe. My mother was the only single parent of her family. All her brothers/ sisters were married. Her kids are the more successful ones of the family.

Same applies to my friends. I look at the ones raised with DAD and the ones raised without and the only difference I see is that the one’s w/ DAD were able to drive a new car off to college. Morally and ethically, there were no differnces. The ones who had dad in the house still became suckas for love. Still had abortions. Still partied and got fuked up.

We’re saying. Don’t place ALL the blame on Single Moms.
keely107

Lawd opinions make folks authorities!!!!!!! I aint even bout to read ALL THIS foolishness because I am very passionate and sensitive about this subject. I will say this, once again its OUR fault men have no accountablity for anything they do, thats they dayum problem (the ones that have them) they momma’s and these women out here place balme everywhere else. Wrong or not, for dealing with these dudes, the fact is they made the children and they need to be there bottom line! No way around it. Thats why it takes 2 to make one, cause it takes 2 to raise one.
Mississippi16

@ Kymy… yesterday I was gonna say he was probably at home waiting for his boo CHARLES to get off work but I didn’t want to wave the Magic Wand and get him started up in her.

We’d all be banned after going through this post with him.
Kymystry

lol @ MIssip .. please DON’T … i ain’t in the mood fot THAT thing … lol … lol
rochele08

Wow…this was a very interesting topic..hate i missed all this yesterday…hate i can’t see the video.
Ecstracy

I missed the convo too, but I would argue that single mothers are not the problem, corrupt politicians who have their hands in everything from pyramid schemes and hookers to governors trying to sell seats and buy sex are what contribute to the decreptitude of society. And they all come from two parent homes.
LADYTEA

Carmel … I love u girl .. and Yvonne .. and all else who opened a Vein on this post .. it’s not easy .. and my son is in a GREAT school .. a GREAT corny kid.. who is respectful when i’m with him or not … did I do it alone .. no .. I was blessed to have 13 older brothers .. and 13 Uncles .. as well as His Father even tho we are’t together he is active in his life … he has BOTH grandfathers Alive .. so YES .. Im Blessed … and Yet . . it STILL WASN’T EASY .. and I STILL pull hairs wondering where this is coming from .. or that is coming from .. But to GOD be the Glory .. He ALWAYS makes a way outta no way … (Thank you Mom for that lil mustard seed of Faith you planted in me————————————————————-this sent chills through me reading this… God always makes a way!!
mjoylaw

Wow. Well oh kay. This is a very sensitive subject. I am a high falutin lawyer–and a baby mama, it turns out. I was married to my husband and conceived 2 children in wedlock. But the marriage didn’t work out cause he was an azzhole.

The divorce was wild–everyone blamed me. Men are not held accountable for what goes wrong in a relationship, it seems that the woman is automatically at fault. How you get treated in the divorce is only as good as what your former husband agrees you should be treated–if he contests anything, unless you have dirt on him, guess what it’s all your fault and that’s how you’re treated in the court system.

Afterward the divorce, the way society treats you, it doesn’t matter if you were married, it doesn’t matter what your accomplishments are, all black single moms get lumped in the same category and treated that way–baby mama.

I came from a 2 parent home, both parents had multiple degrees and I have 2. But I still married a fool and ended up getting divorced. Never thought I’d end up that way. Never thought I’d be labeled a baby mama. But that’s the reality.

Now the only way around the constant discrimination and being treated like shyt lumped in the same category as welfare mothers seems to be the conspicuous display of having MONEY!! Hence, ghetto fabulous, I don’t need a nicca baby mamas.

I was a sucka for love who didn’t care about money. But I was treated like shyt by him and by the system. Now I am a bitter money obsessed baby mama.

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