You be the judge after watching this video comparing George Bush's 20,000 troop surge in Iraq to Barack Obama's recent announcement of a 30,000 troop surge to Afghanistan. Also recall that Obama campaigned heavily against Bush's troop surge in Iraq.

Thanks to loyal reader Mike for the vid link!

  • http://myspace.com/katgirl33 katgirl33

    Well.....G Dubs kicked it off, I guess it's only proper that O Dawg (lol) finish it....

    ;)

  • Cinderella

    Of course youre forgetting that the last president declared war on Iraq. There was no evidence of a direct link b/w Iraq and September 11th but he still invaded anyway. Almost seven years later and no WMD's have been found. Afghanistan is where the war should have been in the 1st place. President Obama is doing his best to clean up the mess the last one left.

  • SanfiPolemikos

    Wow! Very powerful short clip right there. Definitely proves he's a hypocrite. He sounded so sensible back then. Biden too. Now they're fully under the control of the military industrial complex. War is a racket. It's the banksters way of money laundering.

    Bin Laden has been dead for years according to anyone with any inside credibility and Al Qaeda have less than 100 operatives in Afghanistan. This surge and our presence in the Middle East is purely imperialistic. Resources and weapons' contracts. Oh yeah, the drug trade has increased tremendously since we've been over there and that's no mistake either.

  • KaraZ

    Cinderella Says:
    Of course youre forgetting that the last president declared war on Iraq. There was no evidence of a direct link b/w Iraq and September 11th but he still invaded anyway. Almost seven years later and no WMD’s have been found. Afghanistan is where the war should have been in the 1st place. President Obama is doing his best to clean up the mess the last one left.

    :cosign: period.com

  • http://facebook.com/cristinalex Crislex

    Sandra,

    I do not know if you posted it, but did you make a post about Bush and those 2 million emails that were missing?

  • maliasasha

    SR is never going to post anything contrary to her Massahs wishes. O always said Afghanistan is where America should focus it's efforts not Iran. He is not a hypocrite. Rush Limbaugh and Glen Beck are the hypocrites. Forever trying to steal O's shine. SMDH...stop criticizing and try doing something positive some damn time.

  • maliasasha

    I mean Iraq not Iran. SR got on my last nerve with this shiite.

  • Say It Aint So Joe

    I don’t think Obama is a hypocrite just a typical politician. The fact that he has committed us to a war with a country that has been at war since Biblical times is disappointing but not really surprising. I have a strong inkling that this, war against terrorism, is going to become the never ending war. As far as the Bush & Co. comparisons, the democrats are just watered down versions of Republicans. They all play for the same team.

  • Thomas

    maliasasha Says:

    SR is never going to post anything contrary to her Massahs wishes. O always said Afghanistan is where America should focus it’s efforts not Iraq. He is not a hypocrite. Rush Limbaugh and Glen Beck are the hypocrites. Forever trying to steal O’s shine. SMDH…stop criticizing and try doing something positive some damn time.
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    100% absolutely correct.. During the primaries him and a vast number of politicians focus had always been on Afghanistan, even so much that he dedicated success there into his campaign promises.

    He was damned if he did and damned if he didn’t send troops. If he didn’t, some would have said he reneged on his promises.

    He is not the problem, BUSH was!!!!!

  • SanfiPolemikos

    @ maliasasha

    I agree with you that Bush is no better than Obama. Obama is no better than Bush either though; That's the point made with the video.

    Obama is a hypocrite. This is not a left/right issue. Both parties are controlled by the same entities. They only differ slightly enough to divide we the people right down the center. For anything that matters to their bankster-corporate owners they are in perfect alignment.

    You see maliasasha, it's obvious by your name that you fell in love with childish Ken & Barbie image of the Obamas. That really is sad because you take a just criticism on our president as a criticism on you. You are a slave to pop culture.

    Obama has said in the past that occupation in the Middle East only serves to strengthen terrorist ideologies worldwide. My question to you then is, was Obama right then or is he right now? I ask because Obama then, is worlds apart from Obama now. Answer that please.

    Thanks

  • cjgrantjr

    @ Sanfi:

    NO ONE on this chat board can answer that question.

    The answer to that lies in his daily TOP SECRET military and cabinet level briefings.

    Trust and believe WHAT YOU THINK YOU KNOW is put there for you to see and run with.

    The candidate is not privy to the information of the President. That's just common sense.

    He's the president now and is gonna do what he's gotta do. All the whining and complaining about it isn't going to change things one bit.

    If i had to go with the lesser of two evils, HE IS IT.

    It just amazes me how folks always want to complain about our presidents, but NEVER have solutions (based on REALITY) to the problems that these people have to deal with as heads of state. It's easy to be the peanut gallery. Much harder to get on your gangsta, infiltrate the system and do it better so that you can have a part in changing it.

    That's what's really sad about posts like this. No one but the opposition is helped.

    And the FOREIGNER should QUIT bashing my President, or GO BACK TO LONDON.

    The Queen is waiting for her tea....

  • cjgrantjr

    AND WE ALL KNOW THAT SR IS THE QUEEN OF HATERS AND HYPOCRITES, SO POT MEET KETTLE.

  • SanfiPolemikos

    cjgrantjr Says:

    The candidate is not privy to the information of the President. That’s just common sense.
    ________

    Any serious candidate is well aware that they will be answering to a shadow government behind The Oval Office. Research The CFR, The Trilateral Commission, The Club of Rome, The Bilderberg Group. Research Carroll Quigley. Research Eugenics.

    cjgrantjr Says:

    If i had to go with the lesser of two evils, HE IS IT.
    ________

    If that is true, that still don’t say much for Obama. He still wants to give the FED more power. Still wants to bailout and help his bankster buddies launder our tax dollars committing war crimes all over the world. He still wants to help them destroy our nation’s sovereignty and set up world government starting with carbon taxes that him and Al Gore are heavily invested in.

    cjgrantjr Says:

    It just amazes me how folks always want to complain about our presidents, but NEVER have solutions (based on REALITY) to the problems that these people have to deal with as heads of state. It’s easy to be the peanut gallery. Much harder to get on your gangsta, infiltrate the system and do it better so that you can have a part in changing it.
    ________

    This system was created by social engineers. It operates at all levels of our everyday lives. Work, education, media… even our food, our water, our very basic necessities are so heavily polluted and tampered with and most of us have no idea.

    Just look at how our educational statistics stack up worldwide. It’s pathetic. It’s not because we are stupid, we simply get what we pay for. This is all by design. We are meant to be numb to over one million Iraqis since this occupation began. None of that matters because Tiger Woods slept with 20 ugly white women and Chris Brown deleted his Twitter!

    cjgrantjr Says:

    That’s what’s really sad about posts like this. No one but the opposition is helped.
    ________

    In order for us to have a peaceful revolution someday we need to start by waking up anyone we can one by one and letting them know we live in a controlled society with only the illusion of freedom. What’s sad to me is that you would rather people go on blindly without ever questioning why imperialist oligarch warmongers rule our country and in fact most of the world.

    You say to get ahead and further yourself in the system and then make changes. I think that is ridiculous and extremely unrealistic. This system was designed in a way that only a certain amount of people are able to get ahead. Not enough of us care when we get there brother. I know I do. I’m not so quick to forget about my people that are suffering just because I’m doing good. We need to do whatever we can, wherever we can. Talking some sense and maybe ruffling some feathers on a message board can be effective. We also need to organize and protest but I think the most important thing first is getting people to think outside the box and start questioning what they believe is reality.

    cjgrantjr Says:

    And the FOREIGNER should QUIT bashing my President, or GO BACK TO LONDON.

    The Queen is waiting for her tea….
    __________

    Sandra is wrong for thinking this problem is only America. It is global.

    During the Bush admin many would say if you don’t support the president you should go move somewhere else. Surely many of those same people would like to see us rounded up and sent back to Africa. That type of talk just don’t sound right coming from a smart educated black man.

    Peace

  • cjgrantjr

    @ Sanfi:

    Bruh, you organize the FIRST protest, and I'll come up and march alongside you. Until then, I'll work from WITHIN the system.

    We will agree to disagree on many things. My profession involves government and national security, so I will obviously have a difference in educated opinion.

    It is what it is. We will NEVER agree with each other in this country. Everyone will have their opinions and everyone will vote accordingly.

    Last November, I voted for Barack Hussein Obama. I STAND BY my vote.

    Don't really care who agrees with it or not after the 8 years of BS we had to deal with from Bush. Obama may have some imperial similarities to Bush, but they are not the same person BY FAR. You may need to visit the Washington, DC area, and start asking just what our Federal Government employees think about your comparison of Obama to Bush.

    Social Engineering is the very fabric of our society, from religion to politics to human rights.

    And I guess you still believe the AIDS virus came from chimpanzees, too, right??

    HA... Yes, it's a F*cked up world we were born into. But the world works the way the world works. The same folks you serve every day would say, they are justified in their actions while from your perspective, you look from the bottom up.

    It's okay to speak intelligently on a blog, man, but the reality is you don't change ANYTHING with just protests. You need to work from within the system.

    As an EDUCATED black man, I learned that in grade school.

    Be easy and keep your head up man...

    Maybe we'll bump into each other while I'm in NYC this weekend doin some Christmas shoppin...

  • SanfiPolemikos

    LOL you won't see me Christmas shoppin cuz!

    They got you there too huh?!?

    I don't serve no one either just so you know, I think you got me twisted a bit. You talking a little slick there or what?

    I don't want my personal ish out there, but just so you know I work directly under one of the most respected Executive Chefs in America. Within 10 years I'll be in that position because of my education, hard work and just pure luck to make that connect. I'm very successful but I still care about my people man.

    You consider yourself an insider which you obviously are due to an extent but my boss actually chills with these people son. Not trying to boast at all but you are questioning my gangsta! LOL. I was never really into conspiracy theories and all that either but what I have seen and heard is crazy!

    I just try to wake people up whenever I can because I know without a shadow of a doubt that this is all very real!

    Peace