Celebs Out & About
Willow and Jaden Smith were flanked by bodyguards and nannies as they attended the movie premiere of ‘The Perfect Game’ at the Grove in Hollywood, CA, yesterday without their famous parents, Jada Pinkett and Will. I still say these kids are too grown for their own good. My 9-year-old daughter would never come out of the house dressed like this.
Michael Jackson’s siblings Janet, Jermaine and Randy arrived at the Los Angeles Superior Court for the pre hearing of Dr. Conrad Murray yesterday. Murray is charged with involuntary manslaughter in connection with the death of pop singer Michael Jackson. Also arriving at the courthouse were their parents Katherine and Joe Jackson. This is such a sad case. Murray was allowed to keep his medical license until a later court hearing where it will be determined if he will lose his license to practice medicine. This case will be open and shut once it gets underway. Murray will not be found guilty of manslaughter since it can’t be proven that he caused the death of Michael Jackson deliberately, willfully and with malice of forethought. But Murray will lose his medical license because he did neglect his patient by leaving the room while a powerful anesthesia/sedative was infusing (he’s not an anesthesiologist). Therefore he violated the oath he took when he became a doctor (to cause no harm).
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I love that Will and Jada allow their kids to be free spirits!!
Janet looks very nice get it Penny
Daisy Says:
I love that Will and Jada allow their kids to be free spirits!!
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Me too!!!!! I think it’s great. She will have her own style and personality and not something someone forced on her.
I can deal with the clothes but my child wouldn’t be walking around with the sides of her head shaved off.
I dont care how other people raise their children. For some reason I’m not worried about Willow or Jaden robbing me, or abusing our welfare system……
I think Willow and Jaden are too cute. Team raise your own damn kids!
Anybody see the trailor for the New Karate Kid? It actually looks good.
I still say these kids are too grown for their own good. My 9-year-old daughter would never come out of the house dressed like this.
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They look their age, therefore I don’t see the problem.
When Willow starts getting booty implants and Jaden starts sharing
with Rick Ross, then I’ll be worried.
@VI I didnt watch the trailer but I heard it looked good as well from a few other ppl
I’m not even gonna lie Willow looks cute as h3ll in that outfit. For some reason as soon as I saw it I was like Rihanna would wear something like this.
I like the carefree approach…although she is young!!
Does Jaden practice that look in the mirror every night?
I think that is age appropriate for Hollywood. Will and Jada allow their children to express themselves. I love it!!
I’m not a huge fan of the Smith’s, but they do seem to have well-rounded children. Since I’ve never heard any rumors about them being bratty or unruly, I’m assuming Will and Jada are doing a great job raising them.
In that first pic Jaden is lookin like “What you say bout my sister”
SangriaSugar Says:
Does Jaden practice that look in the mirror every night?
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Free spirits they are. I swear my 7 year old has come to me wanting to wear the most embarassing combination of clothes. I have told her that children (and some adults) are mean and will laugh at you if you wear this or that. She doesn’t understand why.
gypsyeyes Says:
I think that is age appropriate for Hollywood. Will and Jada allow their children to express themselves. I love it!!
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Sandra knows it’s age approiate. The only thing Willow is guilty of is getting dressed in the dark, but it works for her. Sorry, I forgot about the hair,
Will and Jada’s kids are too hollywood for me. I bet they don’t know what humble means lol. I’m all about letting a kid express themselves but this foolishness with Willow’s head irks the mess outta me. No way would I let a little girl do all that but I don’t have any kids so I guess I wouldn’t know
Jayden said that Willow runs the house and I can so see and believe that and yes her outfit is a lil Rhiannaish so I think its cute of course!!
Your daughter? Wouldn’t come out dressed like what? A girl
I hope the hang Conrad by his nuts from a lightpole. #teamjackson stick together like always…
I agree w/ Daisy & LadyLew….my daughter choose the stores Gap Kids, Zara, Justice, Polo, & Juicy my so-called friends whom are just now 2 me considered associates tells me “Oh, why do u let her dress white & not black(urban wear)” & I told them 2 kiss my ass if my daughter wants 2 wear clothes from those stores & I agree its age suitable why the **** she can’t its my $ not there’s..
Lets try this again!
That is a top model face
SangriaSugar Says:
Does Jaden practice that look in the mirror every night?
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SHUT UP!!!!!
Hollywood or not, I too think that look on Willow is too mature. Everything from the hairstyle, lipstick and clutch is not appropriate for a 9 year old.
I have complete faith in Will and Jada, and I don’t believe they would allow their children to be consumed in the negative lifestyle so many other young celebs fall victim to. My 9 year old daughter would rock that outfit for sure!!! Loves it!! Wishing them the best.
My 8yr old god daughter wears liploss w/a hint of color and her outfit is rocker girl I dont see the problem
I guess different strokes for different folks
The kids are cute a little over acessorized but really cute…Janet is looking pretty as well
There are so many individuals “practicing” medicine who clearly should not be doing so. Many of them have a history of medical and medication errors. This is terrible given the fact that even the slightest error can cause injury or even death to a patient. We need stricter oversight in this area.
I see Willow and Jayden support their parents flamboyant life style
2 snaps for the kids in a “Z” formation
*jumps out birthday cake and vogues* (Tyler Perry Movie)
The only problem I see is her hair. However my kids do go to a catholic school so only simple hairstyles are allowed.
There are several little girls in my church who do rock the whole “rock star” look. They are all young (ten to eleven years old) and they look age appropriate. And it’s cute on them – they have thier own style and it’s not disruptive.
I mean, would it be better if they were rocking saggin’ pants and the latest in Baby Phat? I mean really – leave these kids alone, Sandra.
Jayden got that Drake/ Tremaine Neverson pout
Just too much! I won’t say anything smh…
I agree with Daisy…diffrent strokes for diffrent folks. I was raised COGIC (Church of God in Christ)so naturally I’m gonna be less liberal on the hair style. Her outfit is busy but I’m not tripping over that. Its just the hair lol. My mom let us express ourselves when we started making our own money to buy our own clothes. So if she was 15 or 16 I would be more open to it lol…
Willow looks cute. Whats the difference between this hairstyle and one with braids and beads? Oh. Girls are suppossed to have hair…?
I see Willow and Zahara stunting on the lil Hollyweird yts in 10 yrs. Willow looks like she runs shyt..lol
I just brought my lil mama a few pieces out of Justice this weekend and will be hitting up Limited 2 this weekend. I love the crazy (not too crazy though) girl outfits they have. She wouldn’t be caught dead in Willow’s boots but she’d love the rest of it.
Lawd I just saw that childs head
Somebody needs their azz karate kid kicked.
OTB EXACTLY!! She cut the side of her hair…god forbid a young lady that doesn’t have a full head of hair. If the Smith’s let her do it, then let lil Willow be great
IMO…Willow looks too grown to be 9…maybe it was the way I was raised. I was not allowed to wear anything but chapstick/colorless lip gloss until I was like 15. I wasn’t allowed to color my hair till I was 17. My mother did not play…she said a child should be a child, they have all the time in the world to be an adult when they’re an adult.
But I guess in Hollywierd anything goes….
At least she’s not walking around in daisy dukes and cut off shirts
Her hair looks crazy…#imjustsayin The shaved head thing is
Janet looks good and Willow and Jaden look too cute!!! I’m also glad Will and Jada obviously don’t give a damn what people say about how THEY let THEIR kids be free spirits.
I love the “Be You” energy Will and Jada seem to engage their children in. I am just not feeling the shaved head on the 9 year old girl. I just think somethings are there for parental RANK pulling..you know?
@ LadyLew
Ain’t it though…he trying to sell me some shades!!!
@Outside
I think thats the problem some people have. Cutting a little girls hair for any reason is bad, but brushing her hairline out so you can put 50/11 barrets(sp) on three strands of hair is all good.
I don’t think in intentionally killed MJ BUT a doctor should never abuse his power so he deserves what he gets. Still
that Mike was a drug addict.
The Smith’s make weird cool for some reason
They’re unique just like everybody else 
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@ renegade: I’m agreeing with you, just too young for that in my opinion but I’m going off of how I was brought up so that is my point of reference…I have no kids so I don’t know what goes on in their little heads these days lol!
Whatever I buy my daughter will wear. She can choose her clothing when she gets her own job and pays for her own sh!t
I didn’t wear heals till prom. Now I see 13 year old with heals on. Growing up all I knew was payless. Now these kids got on top designer shoes and sh!t. SMH
I did have my hair shaved like that when I was in 3rd grade I think…! I wanted to be a rockstar and my mom let me..lol. So I love these kids and their looks! Freedeom of style!
People have to start thinking deeper than how they were raised or how we did it.
Almost all of our parents got ass whoopings as children because thats what they thought “worked”…nobody wasnt going to no dam.n timeout…but fast forward to now and my favorite saying comes into play: when you know better, you do better.
If we are not our hair, why so much emphasis on what we do with it….?
I don’t agree with beads and barettes on ball head babies either but that shaved head is just akward. But hey to each is own.
@Noevil…so tell us…
how damaged are you from that haircut?
Are you traumatized by your free-thinking mother who allowed you (a brown little girl) to do as you pleased with something that is easily replenished?
LOL
@Ebony. I had no desire for heels. It was shaving and nails (fake) for me LOL
Moms said nope.
LMBO @ Ebony
This is how I see it…the hairstyle is do-able at an older age. I’m not saying she has to wait until she is 18, just a little older. I dunno I’m thinking on the lines of if we let them get away with the little things, it progresses to bigger things. Now like someone said earlier, I’m not fearful that Willow or Jayden will come up and rob me one day…but we got these kids from around the way who don’t have such a stable up-bringing, thus by allowing them to express their style at a young age by wearing heels and other stuff, it could cause them to get un-necessary attention from the wrong people. We live in a world where there is some crazy ish going on. I’m just mindful of that…just my opinion…carryon
@ outside I had no desire for hills too. I have big feet
I had to beg and cry for my mom to let me shave my legs and get a bra 
Now I DO have a problem with lil Suri and Shiloh. I think heels and $1,000 purses daily on a 3yr old is a bit much and turning a 3yr old into a little boy is too much for me. Hair dye, a bowl cut, all male clothes and calling a 3yr old John when her name is Shiloh is a
Willow is what in 3rd or 4th grade? Looks like she has on a tinted gloss to me not makeup
Damn SLOW NEWS DAY for real
@outside….lmao! That is what I am saying. It is hair..it grows back. Because she let me do certain things is how I believe I stayed secure for the most part. I never really cared what anyone else thought! It was healthy for me. She told me I was beautiful and smart and I believed her.
Sandra gets paid to judge people…what’s every1 else’s excuse…lmao!
@ Shauny…..I have seen sooooo many more options for lil girls as far as clothes…..my daughter is 7…….but when she was baby…..she had thee cutest clothes.
I’ve said before that I don’t care what outfit concotion my kids wear around the house but once they step foot outside the door the become representatives of me and I will not have them looking a mess. So while the older ones can pick their own outfits out of the clothes I bought for them, I check them before they go and if anything is off meaning too small, too short, too tight, doesn’t go together etc I will send them back to try again. Same thing with hairstyles, I let them tell me what they want and I will gladly do it provided its not too grown or out there. My oldest got a little clip in pink strip as a gift and I did let her put it in one of her braids for a couple days but she has classmates with acrylic nails, weaves and dye jobs and that is a definite no and she knows it (they’re 3rd graders). I wish she would ask to shave the side of her head or if my son asked for a mohawk. My kidnergartner came home yesterday telling me a boy in her class had on nail polish. Some parents forget that they are supposed to parent and allow all kinds of stuff in order to be cool or let the kids “get in touch with themselves” smh I don’t play that. They can be original individuals within the set of boundaries and standards that I set for them
I had to shave my legs in the 3rd grade. That Italian, Indian & Cuban mix makes for some dark, thick hair
cheeks8683 Says:
…but we got these kids from around the way who don’t have such a stable up-bringing, thus by allowing them to express their style at a young age by wearing heels and other stuff, it could cause them to get un-necessary attention from the wrong people. We live in a world where there is some crazy ish going on. I’m just mindful of that…
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You made some very valid points. Whatever happened to parental guidance?
So I guess everyone agree that Mel B daughter hair being shaved like this is cool also.
Where is the rock star part coming from? Didn’t Cassie start this bald trend. She can barely sing R&B yet alone rock. And when you think that (per the rumor mill) Puffy f’ed her up and cut her hair causing her to shave it… smh
@OTB
I always say when kids were getting that azz tap there was less killings (if none at all) in schools. Its bad because society has now trained us to not beat our kids. Its as if you feel you are doing something wrong. I read an article where they said screaming is the new beating. So now they are trying to make you feel bad about yelling. Well lock me up….
Those babies are simply swaggalicious!!! I taught my children how to dress themselves when they were two years old, and I haven’t dressed them since. I haven’t done my daughter’s hair on a regular basis since she was five.
There is so much for kids to rebel against and get in trouble with, as LONG as its not TOO OVER the top, I think fashion is a GREAT way for kids to express themselves and feel like they have a level of independence.
As long as my babies keep getting straight A’s {both of them), they can pick out whatever they want within reason as far as clothes and pretty much have again, within reason, any hairstyle they want… I know I have bigger battles I am going to have to fight ahead of me, other than the way they dress. I’m assuming this is probably Will’s and Jada’ theory as well…. :shrughs:
My son is 6 and has a mohawk. But its probably not what your thinking. Its real low and the barber blended it in real nice. Edge him up something nice and my baby boy looks FRESH. We get compliments all the time!
…no one on the corner has swagger like us…
Ms.Everything Says:
Some parents forget that they are supposed to parent and allow all kinds of stuff in order to be cool or let the kids “get in touch with themselves” smh I don’t play that. They can be original individuals within the set of boundaries and standards that I set for them
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Disclaimer: Now that shaved head is a
that’s my “within reason” statement. Shaved heads for children are not within reason…LOL
iscream Says:
Where is the rock star part coming from? Didn’t Cassie start this bald trend. She can barely sing R&B yet alone rock.
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I read an article where they said screaming is the new beating. So now they are trying to make you feel bad about yelling. Well lock me up….
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Lock me up tooo!!! But I dont yell though
Im a “hands on” type of person, but it rarely ever comes to that. 
A student at my school has a mohawk with “o let’s do it” shaved on the side. He’s in 2nd grade #thatisall
I like children have some sense of individuality but the shaved head thing is just too much for me.
@outside
I understand what you’re saying, BUT, look at our generation and look at this coming generation….do you think whatever parents are doing now works? I will spank my child when I feel necessary. Spare the rod and spoil the child…I am a firm believer…I got spanked ONCE by my father…after that I did not cross my parents ever again.
Parents are too busy trying to be their kids’ friends. But it’s different in the US…in Jamaica parents don’t play that shiat…self expression my azz…that’s why kids don’t learn shiat at school…too busy “expressing” themselves…lol
@ Ebony…… WTH
SMH
no one on the corner has swagger like us…
Florida,
My son gets little designs in his head, not big ghetto letters and clip art…LOL..but a little line here and a little zig-zag there has never hurt anybody, especially when you have GOOD kids…its okay to let them be expressive to a certain degree. That’s just my opinion, though.
LOL…my kids and I stay FRESH TO DEATH! ya’ dig? I’m not one of those mom’s looking all fly and the kids look busted.
We all shut it down, but my son get lazy sometimes [loose shoe strings, clothes hanging off him]…LOL..but me and his sister whip him back in shape..LOL
If Dr. Murray had injected Elvis Presley with this drug and it killed him, would Dr. Murray still have his medical license? Wouldn’t he be in jail until his trial?
@iscream Willow had a choice in her hair unlike Mel Bs baby but as her mother that was her choice
I was raiseds just as strict in a very religious/spiritual household and I refuse to raise my kids the same way. I believe in rules and regualtions and a child being a child but I believe in freedom of expression n hair and clothes as well. I don’t think Willow has on make up either just gloss.
@Isc I’m not sure if Mel’s baby asked for it or if Mel thought it was cute but she’s just as young as Suri and Shiloh is so at that age I don’t think you should do it.
My baby always has say so on what she wears now and I’ll either agree or tell her hell to the no you aren’t wearing that. Even my 15yr old gets overruled sometimes but it’s not because of their personal style. If I think something is too short or too revealing then it’s a no. If they want to wear red pants with a bright orange shirt with black and white stripped leggings with loafers and cut out gloves…go for it
Cinnamon my baby is 7 too, well she’s not the baby anymore. She’s truly a girly girl. She wants heels SO bad but ummm no. She gets charged when I buy her a sandal or boot with a lil heel…lol
Kimora Lee Simmons is on the radio now in Atlanta.
As for the gender confused freaky parents called Will and Jada, I have one question: Why does your sons have more hair on their heads than your daughter? Blank stare.
@ Shauny……I will not allow heels either…..I let her wear clear lipgloss….I take shopping so she can tell me what she likes….but if I don’t likey…than its a
@Isc… Mel B’s seed is different to me…she’s younger. Angel is not quite Willow. I can see Willow wanting to do this. I have a 3yo and a 9 yo. Some shi.t Leilani does, Eiress can’t do and vice versa, all because of their age.
Willow is 9 IN HOLLYWOOD. She works. She HAS A JOB. She is not my 9yo. I would let Leilani wear ensembles like this when she is representing herself. When she is representing me outfits become “tame” because she has been taught about appropriately dressing for situations. I don’t care what she wears while she is gallivanting around The Boys & Girls Club…
I spank my kids @Isc, no doubt, but after seeing how “Whooping as Discipline” worked for our parents and their parents (hint: it didn’t!)…I’m inclined to think that beating doesn’t work long term. For me it’s in immediate solution that rarely solves THE problem…. Kids shooting up schools now were raised by parents who only had as.s whooping as punishment, no? And that’s not fact, just me wondering…
nd if they start locking folks up for yelling….shewwww y’all throw something in my commissary cause imma need it
I love all things Kimora and I am on a conf call miSsing her interview
@rene I think kids can learn and express themselves.
*take her*
Your son with a haircut? SHAVED HEAD. #imjustsaying
@ OTB…..that’s my daughters name too…. Leilani….I spell it different tho.
How so @Cinna? I have a Kanani too
Is it just me or does the new “Karate Kid” look like it will be entertaining?
My 11 year old had some jeans that he had used scissors to slit up the sides about 3 inches from the cuff. He seemed to really like those jeans because he often put them on, despite the fact that I spent GOOD money for plenty of others that lay in the closet.
Being a bit concerned about teasing that he always wore the same jeans with that awkward slit up the side each week on “casual Friday’s” at school – I asked, “Why do you always wear the same ragged jeans on Friday?” and he replied, “I like them.” I asked, “Do the kids tease you about them?” He said “Sometimes.” immediately, my heart hurt because no parent wants to know that their kid is being beat up or teased at school, so I asked, “Then why do you keep wearing them, then?”
His response: “I don’t care what they say… I like my jeans.” And with that, I was done! “Do what you do, baby! If the fact that people are talking about you & you don’t give a DAMM at that crucial age when it really matters to MOST people… then get your backpack and let’s go get em!” (Hi five)
Sandra, there is nothing inappropriate about her clothes, she’s not showing ANY skin.. in fact, she got on TOO much shyt to me. LMAO!
Ebony Says:
A student at my school has a mohawk with “o let’s do it” shaved on the side. He’s in 2nd grade #thatisall
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No Ma’am
Thats too much
How are they gender confused AM???
@ OTB……. I spell it ……Laeloni.
FLo are you at work??? if so, WHY THE HELL HAVEN’T YOU ANSWERED MY EMAIL!
“My 9-year-old daughter would never come out of the house dressed like this.”
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I think screaming and yelling at kids can kill a child’s spirit. There are times when it is very necessary to raise your voice, especially if it involved them endangering themselves, but for every little offense? I was spanked and it definitely worked with me, but I think some parent whip, hoop and holler, but don’t talk to their children explaining the errors of their ways.
@Carrington that was wonderful1 Thanks for sharing!
Form the moufs of babes!
@ leapyear -
Yea im cool with a lil line here, zig zag there. But words and names and connect the dots
No Ma’am
so tempted…but no
@Ebony aw hell naw, was it spelled correctly or like ole do et or some ole ebonics shyt like that?
See that baby didn’t ask for that crap. That’s not style. I think little boys in mohawks are cute. I was mad my son just cut his off. I would HATE for him to want to put designs in it though but since he’s 14 as long as it isn’t inappropriate then
@ Brown -
@krayzkat thanks…I mean I only got a couple spankings as a kid but boy or boy did they leave an impression. These kids today are just too grown. Some are well adjusted but unfortunately not the vast majority…at church on Easter Sunday I saw a little girl (no more than 14) taking per birth control pill during service…Although I’m happy she is taking safety precautions now…I still was just like WOW! Sidenote: she already had a little boy in her arms (and yes it was hers). She had on an identical dress that I have in my closet that I wear when I’m going out only…So I’m a little sensitive to the kids style these days thatis all…
I don’t know yall. My 8yr old son hates hair cuts and wants his hair to grow out. I won’t lie if I/or his dad can find a product to help tame them naps I would do it. But until then buzzzzzzzzzzzz. While that may be what he wants. I refuse to have him walking around looking like a derlick.
Shoot we just had a fight this morning because he wanted me to let him wear his Easter outfit to school 2day and not his uniform.
uh no. (Even though I told him wait till Friday. Yes I’m a sucker at times 
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@Daisy
They can learn and express themselves….it’s not impossible at all..but there are too many distractions in the school because of kids “expressing themselves” Got kids running around with multicolored hair…girls with their booty cheeks hanging out..When is expressing yourself too much??? When I moved here and did 12th grade in a public school…most people were all about who was wearing what brand, who had the freshest Jordan’s…the yt kids with the green hair and trench coats in the summer scaring the shiz outta me…I mean you come to school to LEARN…not to model clothes. Express yourself with your words. I mean write a poem, join a club, do something positive. Kids learn at an early age to be superficial and shallow.
I don’t like the screaming at kids for no reason tho. I was at Dillards the other day and this littlegirl was crying, not an annoying cry, just a wimper for her mom to pick her up and her mom was just like “shut-up little girl,I can’t stand your voice” and she kept going….now that ruins a kids spirit…I was about to tell the mom to shut up cause her voice just sounded so dang ignorant and loud!
@cheeks you said a mouthful about the 14yr old and the BC. My 16yr old has been on BC since 14 and you know why because she can tell me she’s not having sex until the cow jumps over the moon but I wanted the extra assurance of well if you’re lying you’re not making me a 30 something grandma and to the doctor we went.
My cousins daughter had her believing she was a virgin and ask her again and again if she was having sex. Errbody saw her belly growing and she waiting til she was 5 months pregnant to say that not only was she having sex but was pregnant. I think the lil cow waited until it was too late to terminate (cause he mama would’ve). That’s why I don’t disagree with a teen being on BC.
But its okay for the OMG girls right ?
cheeks8683 Says:
@krayzkat thanks…I mean I only got a couple spankings as a kid but boy or boy did they leave an impression. These kids today are just too grown. Some are well adjusted but unfortunately not the vast majority…at church on Easter Sunday I saw a little girl (no more than 14) taking per birth control pill during service…Although I’m happy she is taking safety precautions now…I still was just like WOW! Sidenote: she already had a little boy in her arms (and yes it was hers). She had on an identical dress that I have in my closet that I wear when I’m going out only…So I’m a little sensitive to the kids style these days thatis all…
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Oh me, cheeks. When my mom laid down the law, it was a done deal.
I don’t even know what to say about this 14 year old girl with a child all ready in tow and taking bc pills in church. SMH. Where is the guidance and parenting?
I wonder how that 15 year old girl who had her 7 year old sister gang raped was raised? We live in very scary times. Lord help us!
@KrayZKat!
WHOLEHEARTEDLY agree. I once wrote an article for a magazine about this very topic! A LOT of African American parents raise their children rooted in fear, fear of speaking up EXCEPT when they are ready to clap their hands in an attempt to send some weird signal that I can only assume means, “I’m about to fight you REAL, REAL hard” right before they fight somebody.
I was in the grocery store once & this sister had a baby about 2 in her cart. She was picking up a cake & he kept asking if it was HIS birthday and she kept ignoring him until she finally got ticked & grabbed his lil collar & YELLED that it was her MAMA’s f*ckin’ birthday & not to ask her again! He was only 2, but he knew enough to be embarrassed as we all looked on in horror, so he buried his face in his hands – spirit KILLED.
5 mins later, I was in line & a white kid, the same age picked up EVERYTHING at the register, “What’s this?”.. “It’s a thermometer”.. “what 4?”.. “to know when your foods done.” & the sad part was, I KNEW that if most black mother’s were there, they would have been threatening that if he picked up one more thing, he was going to get his a$$ beat. Funny, but when white folks kids can have full fledged convo’s @ 2, we think they’re geniuses. NO, mf’s, he has parents who COMMUNICATE with them and EXPLAIN shyt & don’t “tata, baba” his a$$ to death @ 3! How do we expect our kids to ask questions in SCHOOL, if we have them scared to ask US a question?
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with renegade, cheeks and iscream
Cheeks I was raised COGIC too and there’s certain things you just don’t do. I’m Baptist but my mom didn’t go to church when I was younger and my grandma who’s a cogic minister took me and kept me in line. I almost had a heart attck the first time I saw a woman in church without stockings lol but anyway its true that kids today have more options and freedom but look at most of the youth. They need ass whuppins, they need boundaries, they need to be told no and then maybe they wouldn’t but acting a fool. I buy my kids childrens clothes not adult styles in small sizes. I let them pick from the kids section but I have the final say. I was allowed to cut my hair at 12 and once I hit my teens my mom gave me free run hairwise and from 16 on I was always in heeled boots. But when I was a kid, she bought my clothes, she approved what I did with my hair and so on. As a teen even though I bought my clothes she had final say before I walked out the house as it should be. If people were parenting you wouldn’t see pants to the ground, girls looking like whores, those damn skinny jeans, pink hair in ridiculous styles in hs, boys dressed like girls, girls dressed like boys etc at least not as much and these kids wouldn’t be running around thinking they’re running things with no respect. I’ll backhand a kid in a second if they get out of pocket and my kids know this. I also make sure they know I love them in my actions and words towards them and don’t let them see me acting a fool or dressed like on. So while they may fear me, they also respect me out of love and the example I set so I can trust that they act like proper children even when they’re outside my sight. All this new age parenting ish is what has the kids flucked up in the head *sorry for the essay*
What really makes Willow outfit to grown is that blazer and scarf….everything else is ok
@ krayzkat…I was just thinking about that 15-year old…just wow what she did to her sister…And the GROWN MEN that participated!!!! Lord help!
I’m just going to say you notice THOSE paretns because they are not the norm. Most of us will yell. Most us dont curse, scream, and degrade.
“Funny, but when white folks kids can have full fledged convo’s @ 2, we think they’re geniuses. NO, mf’s, he has parents who COMMUNICATE with them and EXPLAIN shyt & don’t “tata, baba” his a$$ to death @ 3! How do we expect our kids to ask questions in SCHOOL, if we have them scared to ask US a question?”
*loud applause*
Off Topic—-anyone seen the trailer for Basketball Wives??? Looks like lots of Drama. Sandra was right……this might kill the Atlanta Housewives ratings!
I scream at my boys all the time… Just finished doing it because the 12 year old is a selfish !!@$$$…
I also let them both dress how they want. The 12 year old is in love w/ the skinny jean faze. So I let him be him, a guy made a comment the other day that his jeans were to tight and it did not faze him one bit…
The 2 year old is almost 3 and he love these grey true religion jeans I brought him. They are getting small and the button broke but he rocks them every day. He loves to get his hair cut and when it time to shop he is so happy to pick out his stuff. I was able to express myself as a kid and my boys can do it to.
@Carrington – Yes! You see, this is what pizzes me off! People, in the name of parenting, abusing their children. That mother was being abusive to that baby! Not only is that child’s spirit killed, but he’ll probably grow up hating women, particularly, black women. I really believe a lot of black men’s hatred for black women is based on their hatred for their mothers. I have no scientific proof, but I’ll wager to be their mothers were loud and obnoxious.
I definitely agree what many white mothers have a different approach to parenting. I’ve seen the same atittudes here in my town. Many of them seem to be more patient with their children. I’m not trying to stereotype, but this has been my observation as well, Carrington.
@shauny…I used to be against bc at such a yound age but seeing these kids these days and wathcing 16 and pregnant I promised myself that I would make sure if I ever have a girl we are gonna get on that asap. You can be the best parent in the world and still end up with a child pregnant at a young age…U can’t protect them from everything but I’m willing to build some speed bumps lol so she can look a little less grown. When I saw that girl in church I was more so like wow because at her age I was so far from that…i was worried about going to the mall and i was flat out scared of sex and the mention of it lol!
“All this new age parenting ish is what has the kids flucked up in the head *sorry for the essay*”
LOL@Ms. but what is new age though? Refusing to beat frist and ask later?
I got my ass beat plenty. Still had a baby though…I was one of those children “who was never a child”…my girl cousin, same age, “village raised”, no children, but cracked out…what happened to her?
There is no formula. I can say right now that my 3yo will be much more of a challenge than my 13yo is now. Personality is in play.
I must be missing what is wrong with her outfit. I don’t see any chest or booty hangin out like some of these people dress their children. So she has on lipstick (which could be colored lip gloss) and she has a clutch. My 2 year old grabs her purse everytime she leaves the house and loves putting on my coolmint victoria’ssecret lip gloss. Willow is just being a little girl. People always got some to say. SMH
In an Essence article (in the 90s), Jada said that her grandmother taught her how to masturbate. Blank f***** stare.
So you all know some freaky ish be going on over at the Smith’s home.
I am still traumatized after reading that article. So ish I don’t need to know.
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@ krayzkat…I was just thinking about that 15-year old…just wow what she did to her sister…And the GROWN MEN that participated!!!! Lord help!
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cheeks, when I read this story, my heart sunk. I was filled with rage and anger! I was sick to my stomach. My mind just can’t wrap around such a vicious, evil, perverted act as raping a child. What grown man would even think about having sex with a child? What could’ve happened in that 15 year old girl’s life to allow them to violate not only her, but her sister? I was discussing this with my sister, and we were saying that our society tells boys/men that their penises have a mind of their own, and since they are male, they have no control over it, thus, whatever lusts you have, it’s okay to give into it. I’m not saying every man/boy is a pedophile, but these boys/men have to be some sick individuals to do what they did to a baby. Oh, Lord!!!
@ Ms. Everything…I feel ya…I about fell out of my seat when u said the stockings comment. Me and my older sis went home for easter sunday and my sister had on the skin tone stockings that looked like she had none on…My mom about had a fit…she was like where are your stockings? My sis was like I have some on. My mom was like you need to put on some black ones so that folks are for sure…Child we goin to your grandma’s church today and u know they don’t play that!!! LMBO!
OTB,
:Cosign: I’ve NEVER talked baby talk with my kids and from the time they were little I taught them the anatomically correct parts for their bodies, I taught them that a penis was a penis and a vagina was a vagina, and an anus was an anus… there were not wee-wees or va jay-jays in my house period…none of these cutesy names people give those parts, and my main thought in doing this was GOD forbid if someone would even try to touch them, they could tell me the RIGHT place where someone touch them and could tell me the CORRECT term for where they were touch so their would not be any misunderstanding when I go catch a murder one charge
@outside the box says: “Funny, but when white folks kids can have full fledged convo’s @ 2, we think they’re geniuses. NO, mf’s, he has parents who COMMUNICATE with them and EXPLAIN shyt & don’t “tata, baba” his a$$ to death @ 3!
I so agree with this one. People always talking in that baby talk with kids. What is that?? My mom and aunt tried that with my daughter, I had to tell her to talk normal to her, because even though she may not talk like an adult she still listens and try to repeat what you said. Now at 2 years old my daughter’s vocabulary is excellent
“I was discussing this with my sister, and we were saying that our society tells boys/men that their penises have a mind of their own, and since they are male, they have no control over it, thus, whatever lusts you have, it’s okay to give into it.”
Right! And dont you see? We reinforcing this sh.it over and over again (telling girls their skirt is short/grown/etc)for the boys as if boys are some animals that cant control themselves…
@Florida your sons mohawk sounds cute and it seems like he’s well behaved its just not for me not yet and some parents take the mohawk thing too far
@Carrington I love your first comment and cosign your second. I dont do baby talk period. My mom used to talk about me for speaking to my babies like they could understand but it worked and not only did they talk clearly early but they’re all intelligent. My grandma didn’t yell she popped you and I never got out of line with her and even now I’m grown all the way across the country but when she tells me to do something I do it cause I respect her
Also how do we know Will and Jada let her cut her hair. For all we know she could of went in the bathroom and did it on her own without them knowing. #i’mjustsaying
Carrington I don’t even know the lil boy and my heart breaks for him. I’m not perfect and my baby sometimes gets on my nerve asking 5011 questions and I’ll be like LATER or NOT NOW and feel like shyt then go finish talking to her.
I’ve seen kids in the store get yelled at or beat or punched like I’d try to hit an adult and it kills me because I can only imagine what happens behind closed doors if mama/daddy is bad enough to do it in public :tears:
My mom did whoop us but for me it was mostly when my brother and I were fighting each other. She always said that she didn’t have any problems out of me and I remember getting my ask kicked more from my grandma than my mom. I get teased now because I barely hit my kids. They know if I hit them that is something extremely serious because I don’t believe in hitting a child for every little thing. I also dont believe in publicly embarrassing your child. If my daughter is bad my hubby is like “you want to go talk” or “you want to go to the bathroom” and that scares her chitless right there and deads the issue.
SO WHAT DO YOU SAY TO THE RUDE AS>S BLACK FOLKS (CAUSE ITS ONLY BLACK PEOPLE) WHO CALL MY DAUGHTER GROWN BECAUSE SHE CANT TALK TO YOU AS IF SHE IS 8 AND SHE IS ONLY 3.
I hate, hate, hate when BLACK MEN say something to her ’bout how cute she is (LSLH, you know how y’all get) and ask her little questions…cause when she answers their asses like a normal person. They look at me and say, “Umphm. She grown…”
No. You just a dummy.
OTB,
Simple just tell me them if they ask stupid questions, and make stupid comments expect to get responded to as if they were stupid.
That’s what I love about children. They HAVE NO FILTER, we were talking about this yesterday at work, chances are, if a child tells you something about yourself chances are it’s true.. i.e. if a child tells you that you stink, chances are you do…simple as that.
Black people in GENERAL tend to train their children to believe that “Men don’t hit women” when that shyt is SO far from the truth. MEN hit women, they may not be GOOD men – but they damm sure do! The problem is, when you raise your children and your daughter smacks the shyt out of your son and then he raises his hand to hit her back (after he’s been told that if someone hits you, you hit them BACK), you beat HIS a$$ and explain to him that boys aren’t supposed to hit girls.
Meanwhile, your daughter is being taught that, SHE can hit and there are no consequences, but HE”s supposed to walk away. WTF?!?!
Now you’ve got an ignorant a$$ female who grows up and is walking around BELIEVING that it’s OK to punch, poke, push his head, and beat on HER boyfriend because her mama taught her that having a vagina gives her license to put her hands on a man without consequence.
It works SO differently in the REAL world – there are ABSOLUTELY men who will hit a woman, so shouldn’t we be teaching our children that you don’t hit NO DAMM BODY as opposed to letting our daughters hit their brothers and cousins and then shielding her from a NATURAL response? Consequently ending up with her a$$ shocked and amazed when she runs up on that man who was NOT in her family and wasn’t quite raised the same way?
Am I less than a man if I let a woman hit me as many times as she see’s fit and I don’t respond because I have been taught to simply walk away, but on that ONE day when I’m minding my own business and the daughter you trained to believe that she can hit ME, clocks my a$$, catching me off guard and, out of a NATURAL response, I’ve knocked her ghetto a$$ over the back of the couch before I realized what happened?
No, I don’t think so! I don’t hit women, don’t train my boy to be that way, but I think where we should START is to stop training black children that ONE can hit and the other can’t – everybody has their fill at some point and that’s how women end up getting their a$$ whooped by men who get tired of women thinking it’s OK to hit, because he’ll never hit back.
I got whooped when I was little and I think people shouldn’t be afraid/ashamed to whoop their kids. The problem with any form punishment when dealing with children is that few people stop and make sure that their child understands what they did wrong. Not just that they’re in trouble…again…but what it is they did wrong & why its wrong.
If you just snatching up your kid you’re not teaching them anything except fear.
When I was 11 my room was a pig-sty so my mom moved from whoopings to being grounded. She didn’t just take away talking on the phone or watching TV for 6 months
she took away books. I love reading…I have my own damn library collection!! She made me pack all my books into boxes and store them in the basement by myself. Had me so messed up in the head I was lying so I could sneak to the library to read.
My mom said take away what they love for an extended period of time and see what happens. That punishment has always stuck with me…I’m practically OCD now…and love my mother for what she did.
@OTB it seems like ever since the mid 90′s when they started the spanking is bad, time out is better thing there is a difference in the children born before and after. That’s what I mean by new age parenting. And now there is an entire generation of kids who have zero respect for authority and no idea of consequences. I will gladly spank my child if it means that they will stay out of jail and grow into respectable adults. But people seem to forget that there is a difference between discipline and abuse and parents have been taught lately that physical discipline is abuse and its not. I’m not saying beat your child into submission, cuss them out and all that. That is clearly abuse but a spanking does have some benefits. No child likes pain, I only got a handful of whuppings because I did not like pain and I learned early on if you do this, you’ll get that so I stopped. Just like I learned after putting my hand on the stove that it was a bad idea and you will get burned. So I spank my kids and after the storm is over and the tears have dried up we sit down and talk about why that just happened. My older children rarely need that now because they’ve learned. I also practice proactive discipline meaning I tell them things are wrong before they do them. If I see a child acting a fool in public I make sure my kids see to and then they tell me what was wrong about that situation and I say how did that look to you and they’ll say it looks stupid or whatever. I’ve only had one child throw a tantrum in public and I grabbed him by his arm and practically dragged his behind out the store screaming and all and did not stop til we got to the car where I whupped his butt and told him if he ever wanted to go back to the mall with me he better never pull something like that again and he never did. If they steal from the store even something like a free pen to sign your checks, I return them to the store and make them return it and will call the manager to the front so they can apologize. Each one never did it again. My son called himself acting a fool in school and after I spanked him I drove his butt to the police station and let an officer tell him what happens to kids who act up in school and don’t listen to their mothers. Too many parents rely on a time out and grounding as discipline and that mess does not work as a whole but they are either too afraid of child services or what others will think or they are simply too lazy to stop what they are doing and properly discipline their child. Not to mention the ones who are too concerned with embarrasing their child or hurting their feelings to tell them no but nothing is too much for my kids if it means they’ll grow up to be something other than a criminal or grown idiot wandering through life
@ Carrington
My mom sat us all down…told my brother not to hit girls & told me and my sister not to hit boys. She told us all about DV and said that if we are ever with a man who lays his hands on us to leave him and the same to my brother. Parents should be teaching girls to not to hit boys and move away from this “if a girl hits then that means she likes you” shyt.
She told us that as females if we ever lay our hands on a man first then we have just forfeited the right to yell DV because we started something. She said these are your choices:
1. Run like h3ll
2. Pray that he don’t react
3. Be ready to fight like a man if you gonna put your hands on a man
Don’t start nothing won’t be nothing!!
I think where we should START is to stop training black children that ONE can hit and the other can’t – everybody has their fill at some point and that’s how women end up getting their a$$ whooped by men who get tired of women thinking it’s OK to hit, because he’ll never hit back.
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I know I am going to be in the minority, but I agree, I could on, but my parents used to fight really badly when I was young. I say fight and not that my dad beat my mom, because eight times out ten she provoked it…YES, I SAID SHE provoked it, Ive seen times, when my mom would “mush” my dad in the head and he would tell her to stop, and he would get up and leave and go outside the house to walk and she would FOLLOW him outside and provoke him until he clocked her, then she would come running back in the house slinging snot and crying….I remember being about 6 or 7 and telling her, well you shouldnt went outside messing with him….
I do not advocate abuse of women by any measure, however I do believe that there is a difference in abusive people and people who fight. We all have probably laid our hands on the opposite sex at one time or another in that way, but it does not mean we are abusive people. Abusive people are usually abusive in every way, physical, mental, and emotional and they usually have a distinct personality map.
I do that with my children, my daughter likes to push my son around because she says she is the oldest even though it is only by three minutes, so she sometimes pushes him and hits him, and I told her to stop because when he hits her back I am not going to say one word…and sure enough, she starts hitting him and pushing him but when he hits her back she wants to run to me, I tell her, you shouldn’t have hit him in the first place….period….
and i personally, do not tell my son not to hit girls, sorry…i just don’t…. i tell him if they are bad enough to hit you, then they should be bad enough when you hit them back….period…I am not telling him to go beat up on girls…he know that is wrong…but I am telling him not to LET girls beat up on him, simply because they are girls.
I’m an only child, so my thoughts on all this may be to the left, because I believe in protecting oneself by all and any means necessary…whether its male or female…. just my two cents…
Carrington you seem very intelligent and at you and @OTB I raise my son to defend himself. After watching his dad kick my ass he wouldn’t fight anyone no matter what they did and his sisters would hit him and he just kept looking the other way until I caught on to what was happening. Now if they hit him he hits them back and then ill discipline them about keeping their hands to themselves. He never hits them though unless they strike first. And I’m just as hard on him when it comes to the opposite sex and I am them. At least once per day I bring up no gf/bf til high school, no sex til married, go to college so that’s its drilled in their little heads now sometimes they will see a young kid with a baby or their classmates talking about who they like and they’ll say little things to me that makes it clear its sinking in
@ Sangria,
“I like your mama!” LMAO!
Let me tell you what that, “You don’t hit girls” thing did for my boy. I put his a$$ in Karate, there was this girl in class who was bad as HELL, hear? She would whoop EVERY a$$ that entered that class, boy OR girl. She was the QUEEN of Karate! LMAO!
One day, he had to go up against her and when I tell y’all that lil girl lifted her leg up and kicked my baby in the back of the head sixteen times before her foot touched the ground again, I aint’ LYIN! He would NOT fight her back!
During a break, I said, “what the heck is wrong with you? why are you fighting her back, boy?” this boy says, “You tole me not to hit girls!” … “BEAT HER A$$!!!!!!” LMAO!
Leapyear I saw your comment after I wrote mine and I fully agree with you
I am still lost and not understanding why you cant have rules and regulations for their kids as well as let them express themselves via clothes. You are the parent you will always have the LAST and FINAL word. My mama would tell me NO based on price or style and that was that. She didnt want me to cut my hair when I was in high school I finally lied and told the stylist my mama said it was ok and had it ALL cut off my mama cried but got over it and I managed not to go to jail or become a teen mom or what have you
I dont think kids should be able to get or do everything they want or ask to do and at times they will have ZERO options other times they can be heard or plead their case.
As far as the BC I doubt I would ever put my daughter on BC unless she came to me and asked which I would encourage her to do esp. if she had a steady boyfriend. Sex is more than just BC and I would stress that as well. I love the show 16 and prg (wish it didnt have to exist) and if I had a teen I would make sure they watched.
AM Oprah did a show on teenage masturbation and sex toys with some sex thearpist last yr. The theory is/was to teach the girls they didnt need a boy to have an O and reduce teen prg and kids having sex at an early age. I will let my daughter discover toys on her own like I did (still waiting on my 1st toy hope to pick it up this wkend from my gfriend)