Ladies, Can Your Sons Do This?

Sandra Rose July 8, 2010

I am so amazed by the incredible talent displayed by our young men today! I remember back in my day when young boys busied themselves with Summer camp, or bagging groceries at the supermarket, or playing baseball, or joining the Boy Scouts of America, instead of hanging out on the street corners or robbing little old ladies.

Our young men today show how vastly different they are from the young men of my youth. But then back in my day there were more fathers — you know, real men — in the homes to show guidance and teach their boys self-respect.

Today’s young men gather in their bedrooms all over the country to teach each other the latest Hip Hop dance routines. All that hard work has paid off. These kids have better moves than a seasoned stripper. Their (single) mommies must be so proud of them!

Ladies, if you can’t pop your coochie like these boys (who don’t even have coochies), hit up @Zeralyn on Twitter for dance lessons. She will show you why your man stays in the strip clubs until dawn.

Thanks to loyal reader VipAtlStyle for the link!

cheeks8683

Boooo…I can’t see it! Guess I gotta wait until I get home. But by Sandra’s discription I imagine that its a bunch of “feminine” young men getting their twerk on…Am I right?
Thetruth32

@ Cheeks your right. Its 3 gay guy poppin it like you see girls do in the club.
Mamacita

“But then back in my day there were more fathers — you know, real men — in the homes to show guidance and teach their boys self-respect.”

I’ve ALWAYS believed that it takes a man to teach a man how to be a man. The lack thereof gives us foolishness like what’s displayed in the video smh
http://www.modelmayhem.com/kimip kimip84

I’ve ALWAYS believed that it takes a man to teach a man how to be a man. The lack thereof gives us foolishness like what’s displayed in the video smh
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LaTechGrad02

Where is my belt…. Does the guy in the plaid shorts have french tips on his nails?
biglegs36

I am jealous! My azz don’t bounce like that! Big boy was poppin it! The one in the leggins is limber as hell. I need to get some tips for them on how to like that!
http://www.modelmayhem.com/kimip kimip84

@latech lol i dont know but i know baby boy in the leggings got a belly ring and a sports bra
cheeks8683

@thetruth…I’ll pass on that then lol! I gotta make sure I get back from cycling class in time tonight to see Lebron’s announcement…Watch him say some “I’m staying with the Cav’s” ish!
I’m ME….

Why they gotta be single moms Sandra????
KrayZKat

Our young men today show how vastly different they are from the young men of my youth. But then back in my day there were more fathers — you know, real men — in the homes to show guidance and teach their boys self-respect.
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Sandra, I love your sarcasm, but yep, you hit it full force. But there’s hope. When I see stuff like this, I think of the Urban Prep Academy in Chicago where young brothers are doing it big.
MOVINONUP

god damn (in my tyrome dave chapelle voice.)i got sea sick from watching this.
LaTechGrad02

@kimi, not a sportsbra…they are too much. I really hope none of their mothers sends Sandra an email to defend this “creativity.” Tomfoolery at its finest.
lexdiamonz

this makes me sad

*wipes single tear*
http://www.facebook.com/home.php?#/profile.php?ref=profile&id=1335451522 therapist1911

I seen thisa couple ofweeks ago and laughed until I cried.That’s a mess!

You do realize that there were gay boys back in the day. I think the media acceptance of the lifestyle has given more people the courage to feel comfortable expressing themselves.

HELL THERE ARE MANY WOMEN IN THE HOUSE AND WE STILL HAVE MANLY LESBIANS…

so miss me with all that “black man to teach man how to be a man”. My mother did an excellent job teaching me how to be an RESPONSIBLE ADULT…that is a MAN
Thetruth32

@thetruth…I’ll pass on that then lol! I gotta make sure I get back from cycling class in time tonight to see Lebron’s announcement…Watch him say some “I’m staying with the Cav’s” ish!

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I should have passed too. i’m not watching tonight. I will just check FB and I will know
http://dahoneyhive.blogspot.com ryand91

Damn Sandra for once I have to agree with you wholeheartedly. My boyfriend and I were talking about this last night while we were looking at some of the neighborhood kids; it was 1 in the morning and they were still out and about like it was the daytime. None of the kids out there could have been over 10 years old. One of the little boys out there, was out there popping his booty and doing all sorts of foolishness that wasn’t cool for little boys to even back in my childhood. And where was the mother or father? No where to be found
Cariblife

I haven’t even seen girls poppin it like that.

The one in the black spandex is just entirely too extra.
Mamacita

…and the really sad part of all of this is that they really took time out to plan these moves out! They had solos and everything. I mean seriously, do they really have THAT much time on their hands? Get a job, got to school, hell do something productive with your life.
Ebony

I learned how to dance from by gay best friend skittles in my Georgia State dorm room
lakercrazy

well darn it i cant see the dam video but no need for the video the club is full of tight jeans and coc*s hanging out wile they tring to twirk it on the floor better than a bish
BeautifulBliss

LMAO @ smh at the same time.
BeautifulBliss

*and
jazi65

cleans tea off pc screen
speakinmymind

that’s all i got!
cheeks8683

I learned how to dance from by gay best friend skittles in my Georgia State dorm room

at the name skittles….”taste the rainbow”
Man, I just don’t care™
Mamacita

@therapist1911 If you don’t think that fathers not being in the home is a problem then you my friend are mistaken. This is not to say that women don’t do a good job because a lot do, but there is a difference and it has nothing to do with the lifestyle being “more accepted”.
Cariblife

Cheeks please proceed to ASAP along with Ebony.
http://chokolatemilk.blogspot.com Choco

First I didn’t even view the video yet Sandra’s piece on it has me lmao
Ladies, if you can’t pop your coochie like these boys (who don’t even have coochies),_______________________
She will show you why your man stays in the strip clubs until dawn.

K now back to viewing
lexdiamonz

woman can teach a plenty things but she cannot teach a boy how to be a man
BROWNSUGAPOET

what’s the name of the video so I can youtube it because it’s not showing up on my screen
Ebony

There is nothing wrong with this video. Would you rather them be on a street corner with their pants to their knees selling drugs, or shooting people
http://dahoneyhive.blogspot.com ryand91

Mothers gives nurturing, while fathers (or father figures) are meant to give guidance. Only a man can make a man.
http://dahoneyhive.blogspot.com ryand91

lexdiamonz says:

woman can teach a plenty things but she cannot teach a boy how to be a man
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FreeToSpeakUp

therapist1911 says:

I seen thisa couple ofweeks ago and laughed until I cried.That’s a mess!

You do realize that there were gay boys back in the day. I think the media acceptance of the lifestyle has given more people the courage to feel comfortable expressing themselves.

HELL THERE ARE MANY WOMEN IN THE HOUSE AND WE STILL HAVE MANLY LESBIANS…

so miss me with all that “black man to teach man how to be a man”. My mother did an excellent job teaching me how to be an RESPONSIBLE ADULT…that is a MAN

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and well said
FloridaChick813

Oh My!
lakercrazy

@FLO I CAN FINALLY SEE UR PIC LOOOOOVE THE SHORT HAIR U LOOK SO DIFERENT FROM LAST PIC PERRRRTY NO HOMO
http://chokolatemilk.blogspot.com Choco

Im speechless and disturbed and bamboozled- I too am ol’ skool and this ish has got me sick to my stomach…
http://www.facebook.com/home.php?#/profile.php?ref=profile&id=1335451522 therapist1911

@Mamacita….it’s not tht I don’t think fathers in the house would make a difference. I have a problem when people generalize and say these young men are like that bc lack of fathers. The are expressing their sexuality through dance, although HILARIOUS, they are not selling drugs, killing, making babies and leaving, robbing, buying guns illegally.

So what about butch lesbians? Is the excuse if their father was in the house they wouldn’t be so manly? Or does the woman in the house suppose to teach her how to be a lady?
http://www.modelmayhem.com/kimip kimip84

@brown look up drop it low gay dance
flawless001

Wow!!
LilMissRed

when I saw this a few days ago… :/
*THATISALL
http://dahoneyhive.blogspot.com ryand91

@therapist1911, So you’re mother single handedly raised you? You didn’t have any kind of male influence in your life? I’m sure you’re mother is a good woman that nurtured you, gave you much love and support, those things are just are important in forming who we become as a person. But somewhere along the way there had to be a man that gave you some form of guidance and placed influence on your life. #imjustsaying
FreeToSpeakUp

I have a question for all the ladies who believe a woman can’t raise a man to be “a man” because I believe they can and I’ve seen it done. How do you even define a man without any regard to the difference in our sex?

I define a man as being respectful, responsible and overall mature because with those three, everything else will fall into place (i.e. having a career, living within means, caring for their children)
Thetruth32

@ Flordiachick

I see you cut your hair..I might be late but sometime I can’t see the same pic as everyone else. I like.
FreeToSpeakUp

Oh and Heeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeey Yaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa’llllllllllllllll
BeautifulBliss

They look like a gay male version of the “Twerk Team”
Hilarious.
renegadesince1985

Well I have a question….

My bf’s cousins are gay. Both their parents are in the home….The mother is a nurse the father is a Pastor…I wondered how is it that both of them, (boy and girl) are gay???

Where’s Mean….do you agree that some people are “born gay” as some people say??? No offense..just curious about your opinion.
lakercrazy

THIS IS NORMAL NOW A DAYS I HATE MEN HAVIGN THEY PANTS HALF WAY DOWN THEY AZZ BUT SOMETIMES THESE TIGHT AZZ PANTS AND DOING THE SPLITS WHILE U TWIRKING IT MAKE ME KINDA JEOLUS HELL LET ME TAKE SOME LESSON SOME OF THESE KIDS DANCE AND DROP IT HOTTER THAN ME I RATHER THEM DANCE AND CHIT THEN ON THE STREETS SELLING DRUNGS IN GANGS OR IN JAIL
http://chokolatemilk.blogspot.com Choco

I agree with Fathers guiding their son’s into Manhood- I had to realize it was in the best interest of my son to let him go live with his Dad- he’s 12 now and at an influential stage in his life he needs to be picking up manly demeanor and persona from his father- and it really broke my heart I had him living with me up until he was 12. He’s right down the street tho : )
http://myspace.com/necee518 yvonne79

Morning everyone!!!
http://www.facebook.com/home.php?#/profile.php?ref=profile&id=1335451522 therapist1911

ryand91 says:

Mothers gives nurturing, while fathers (or father figures) are meant to give guidance. Only a man can make a man.
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I guess I”m not a “real” man then since my mom raised me and provided nrturing and guidance. I’m just the first in the family to attend and graduate from college and hold other degrees. I’m one ofthe only males in my family that’s never been to jail or commited a crime. I’ve never sold drugs. SO YEAH I WONDER WHAT WOULD HAVE BECOME OF ME IF MY FATHER WAS IN THE HOME!!!*shurgs*

Every parent should nurture and guide their child no matter their sexuality.
http://chokolatemilk.blogspot.com Choco

@Free
I see it differently it’s not that I don’t think a woman can’t raise a man to be a man a woman can’t teach a man how to be a man-she can nuture, guide, console, and advise but she is not a man she can not teach him things a man can teach a man….
Anna

LaTechGrad02 says:

Where is my belt…. Does the guy in the plaid shorts have french tips on his nails?
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If my son did this I would be beating his azz up and down the street. I know you can’t beat someone to be straight, but mothers need to make sure when they are on the phone or talking w/their girlfriend that their sons are no where in sight. I blame Beyonce.
http://www.facebook.com/home.php?#/profile.php?ref=profile&id=1335451522 therapist1911

Every parent should nurture and guide their child no matter their GENDER (Correction)
lakercrazy

@FREE EXACLY!!! GIRL LET IT BE KNOW MY AUNT HAS TWO BOYS AND THEY ARE THE MOST RESPECTFUL WELL EDUCATED MEN IVE SEEN IN MY WHOLE DAM FAM AND SHE DID IT ON HER OWN ONE OF THEM IS GOING TO BE A NURSE AND THE OTHER GOT INTO AUTOMATICS BOTH GRATUATED AND ARE WELL ROUNDED NO DRUGS NO JAIL THEY ARE SO RESPECTUF TO WOMEN AND THAT IS SOMETHING MY AUNT INSTIL IN THEM S SO HOW I SEE IT IT TAKES A WOMEN TO BRING A MEN INTO THIS WORLD AND IT TAKES A WOMEN TO RAISE ONE!!!
BROWNSUGAPOET

THE DAM GUBMENT DONE BLOCKED YOUTUBE!!!!!!!!!!!!
FloridaChick813

I have a question for all the ladies who believe a woman can’t raise a man to be “a man” because I believe they can and I’ve seen it done. How do you even define a man without any regard to the difference in our sex?

I define a man as being respectful, responsible and overall mature because with those three, everything else will fall into place (i.e. having a career, living within means, caring for their children)
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MsGorgeous

OMG the one with the black leggings is getting it
http://dahoneyhive.blogspot.com ryand91

@ 43, I define a man in the context of being a father as someone who is responsible, stern, understanding, a provider, a disciplinarian, a teacher, and a template for their son to follow on what a man is supposed to be.*

*Disclaimer-This is the definition of a real father in my book.

And I know you’re probably going to say a woman can play that same role, but I don’t care what anybody says a woman cannot show a man how to be a man. But she can teach him how to respect woman and when a father is not in the home in may influence a man to not be anything like his father.
flawless001

mad they can dance better than me
FloridaChick813

Thanks @Thetruth32. I just put that pic up yesterday so you arent too late. LOL
http://www.modelmayhem.com/kimip kimip84

@brown are you serious…lemme see if i can get on still LOL
lexdiamonz

@ free

i am not saying lack of biological fathers truth be told a bullish father is worse than an absent one but back in the day we had “male” figures as a constant presence in our life whether it be our uncles, uncles or brothers-in laws, stepfathers, grandfathers, pastors, deacons, coaches, the jack leg mechanic who came to fix your mamma car, male teachers etc. some of our young mens lives are “saturated” with women and i feel that has somewhat contributed to the “feminization” of the young black man….dont get me wrong some single women are raising respectable young men and doing a damn good job but TRUST they have an outside, positive male influence in that young man’s life ish i am old school someone said earlier they saw some 10 yr olds outside to 100 in the morning not on my block miss mattie and nem would have whupped your azz and told your mamma she whupped your azz and it would have been all good hell i see mammas cussing out the damn teacher when their child get a bad report card !!!!
FreeToSpeakUp

Choco says:

@Free
I see it differently it’s not that I don’t think a woman can’t raise a man to be a man a woman can’t teach a man how to be a man-she can nuture, guide, console, and advise but she is not a man she can not teach him things a man can teach a man
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I feel you even though I disagree. I believe being a parent to your children is what a child needs regardless of which parent is teaching. What is it that a father could be doing differently? We (a woman) can teach them to pee, tie a tye, a firm hand shake, change a tire or car oil…most men I think raised by women are less egotistical
http://dahoneyhive.blogspot.com ryand91

@ Therapist- I never said you weren’t a real man. Yes, both parents should play those roles, but at some point a boy needs a male influence in his life to give him some form of guidance. I applaud single mothers who successfully raise their children, because it can’t be easy. And I applaud you on your accomplishments. But everyone’s situation is different and I’m speaking from what I’ve observed.
2cents

@renegadesince1985

People are not born gay, it is a decision. The only thing that is forced upon in birth is gender and ethnicity. No hate on people that are gay, but I am just saying.
FloridaChick813

@ Rene

Mean && I have had this convo. Mean was raised in a household with his mother and father, and he believes gay people are born gay. Not influenced to be so.
http://www.facebook.com/home.php?#/profile.php?ref=profile&id=1335451522 therapist1911

ryand91 says:

@therapist1911, So you’re mother single handedly raised you? You didn’t have any kind of male influence in your life? I’m sure you’re mother is a good woman that nurtured you, gave you much love and support, those things are just are important in forming who we become as a person. But somewhere along the way there had to be a man that gave you some form of guidance and placed influence on your life. #imjustsaying
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YES MY MOM SINGLE HANDLEY RAISED ME! Were there men around? Yes. I had neighbors, church members, and other friend’s fathers but it was my MOM.

IN a way my dad still had influence. I WANTED TO BE EVERYTHING he wasn’t at the time. A better man. So if my mom ever had to depend on a man..I ewanted it to be the MAN she raised.

#certifiedandproudmama’sboy
Zephyr1979

This isn’t cool at all

I don’t understand why if you’re gay you feel the need to act like the opposite sex. If you are a guy who likes guys, why do you feel the need to act like a woman? I’m confused…Can’t you just like the dookie hole without dressing, dancing, speaking and just overall imitating a woman?

You may have been born gay (although I don’t put too much into that) but it seems that everyone wants to be different so badly that they’re even trying to redefine the meaning of the word. Or maybe I just don’t know the true meaning or what it means to be gay?
Anna

renegadesince1985 says:

Well I have a question….

My bf’s cousins are gay. Both their parents are in the home….The mother is a nurse the father is a Pastor…I wondered how is it that both of them, (boy and girl) are gay???

Where’s Mean….do you agree that some people are “born gay” as some people say??? No offense..just curious about your opinion.
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I have always wondered “who would choose to be gay”. I thought most were born that way but some choose the lifestyle because it’s easier, they have been molested or just don’t like the other gender. It can be nature vs nuture.
Ebony

@ Rene I believe people are born gay
Mamacita

@the rapist (hehehe) idk why butch lesbians do what they do. I’m not one and I don’t know any so you’ll have to ask them

All i’m saying is times have changed and current issues have a lot to do with fathers abandoning their families not being in the household. Young men need a father or some type of positive male influence in their life IMO. There are somethings that a mother just can’t teach. I have been blessed to have both in my home so this is how I KNOW there are things that I learned just from my dad being there.
meanNsurly

Of course yall know I have to comment on this post given that I’m the token black guy on this site that comments daily……

I can’t even view the video but I can only imagine what is on it by the post. I grew up in “complete” family home; had married parents, both had jobs, and my father was even in the military. I didn’t lack a male figure in my life but I still was GAY. I can understand how a lack of a male figure in someones life can affect the way a son act but I don’t think its a determining factor. My dad was the typical dad meaning I was whooped by him plenty of times, played sports with him, and even talked to him even if I needed too. So again I can understand some of the comments but without a male figure in your life will not cause you to booty pop as if you in an Uncle Luke video.
FloridaChick813

#certifiedandproudmama’sboy

Awwwwwwwwwwwwwwww
FreeToSpeakUp

ryand91 says:

@ 43, I define a man in the context of being a father as someone who is responsible, stern, understanding, a provider, a disciplinarian, a teacher, and a template for their son to follow on what a man is supposed to be.*

*Disclaimer-This is the definition of a real father in my book.

And I know you’re probably going to say a woman can play that same role, but I don’t care what anybody says a woman cannot show a man how to be a man. But she can teach him how to respect woman and when a father is not in the home in may influence a man to not be anything like his father
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What do you feel is being ADDED by a father that’s “manly” because “someone who is responsible, stern, understanding, a provider, a disciplinarian, a teacher, and a template for their son to follow on what a man is supposed to be” isn’t necessarily saying that a FATHER can give this. I stand firm on my belief because even in a home with two parents mothers are raising their children alone. That’s why “I” stand on parenting.
http://www.twitter.com/karazinatl KaraZ

Children these days, male or female need not pop their booty all over youtube like they selling azz.
http://dahoneyhive.blogspot.com ryand91

Back to the conversation I had with my boyfriend about the bad “single mothers”. I was raised by my grandparents, he was primarily raised by his mother, his parents were married but his father was “physically present, but absent as a parent” I asked him what he’d learn from his father and he said and I quote “How to fix cars and how not to be a father”. Our fathers (or father figures) have influences on our lives be it good, bad, or indifferent.
http://www.facebook.com/home.php?#/profile.php?ref=profile&id=1335451522 therapist1911

2cents says:

@renegadesince1985

People are not born gay, it is a decision. The only thing that is forced upon in birth is gender and ethnicity. No hate on people that are gay, but I am just saying.
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Is this researched based? or opinion based? There is a difference.
FloridaChick813

I have always wondered “who would choose to be gay”.

Same thing I think about. Gay black men tend to have it harder then anybody else. All the judgement and sh.it. Who would REALLY choose to be that way?
http://chokolatemilk.blogspot.com Choco

@Free
What is it that a father could be doing differently?
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First I agree with you I am a single mother….but to answer your question to me it’s simple-GOD provided children with a mother and a father you need both in order to be conceived I know that times have changed but this is the way it is and has always been. A Mother is a Mother and a Father is a Father-their roles are different but yet the same. I believe when we allow certain boudaries to be erased or smeared you get the products of the boyz/girls in this video.
LaTechGrad02

I also believe that people are born gay. Who would choose to be hated just for loving someone of the same sex.
renegadesince1985

@Flo

Well thanks for answering in Mean’s absence… Mean and I went to high school together so I remember him having both mother and father around….I couldn’t remember what his take on the “born gay” thing though…thanks
http://www.modelmayhem.com/kimip kimip84

@flo i wonder that sometimes too
FreeToSpeakUp

Zephyr1979 says:

This isn’t cool at all

I don’t understand why if you’re gay you feel the need to act like the opposite sex. If you are a guy who likes guys, why do you feel the need to act like a woman? I’m confused…Can’t you just like the dookie hole without dressing, dancing, speaking and just overall imitating a woman?

You may have been born gay (although I don’t put too much into that) but it seems that everyone wants to be different so badly that they’re even trying to redefine the meaning of the word. Or maybe I just don’t know the true meaning or what it means to be gay?

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I’ve always wondered that too. Or why a butch just won’t date a drag queen. It’s a man but since you are attracted to a woman he’s the perfect match right? I never understand how their “life” has these like…rules. For example, a butch can’t be with a butch…
renegadesince1985

Children these days, male or female need not pop their booty all over youtube like they selling azz.
http://dahoneyhive.blogspot.com ryand91

therapist1911 says:

ryand91 says:

@therapist1911, So you’re mother single handedly raised you? You didn’t have any kind of male influence in your life? I’m sure you’re mother is a good woman that nurtured you, gave you much love and support, those things are just are important in forming who we become as a person. But somewhere along the way there had to be a man that gave you some form of guidance and placed influence on your life. #imjustsaying
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YES MY MOM SINGLE HANDLEY RAISED ME! Were there men around? Yes. I had neighbors, church members, and other friend’s fathers but it was my MOM.

IN a way my dad still had influence. I WANTED TO BE EVERYTHING he wasn’t at the time. A better man. So if my mom ever had to depend on a man..I ewanted it to be the MAN she raised.

#certifiedandproudmama’sboy

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Okay, I can agree with that. Maybe I need to go back and make a distinction. There are two kinds of single mothers; the good and the bad. And you had one of the good mothers who kept you involve in activities and kept you moving in the right direction, which is good.

I’m just sick of seeing some of these “single mothers” who let their children run wild, give them no guidance, and have all sorts of men in and out of their house.
http://www.facebook.com/home.php?#/profile.php?ref=profile&id=1335451522 therapist1911

Mamacita says:

@the rapist (hehehe) idk why butch lesbians do what they do. I’m not one and I don’t know any so you’ll have to ask them

All i’m saying is times have changed and current issues have a lot to do with fathers abandoning their families not being in the household. Young men need a father or some type of positive male influence in their life IMO. There are somethings that a mother just can’t teach. I have been blessed to have both in my home so this is how I KNOW there are things that I learned just from my dad being there.
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You don’t knowwhy butch lesbians do what they do when they have a woman in the house…but you have all the answers as to why black fem boys act the way they do when a father isn’t in the house????

I’m not being a smart ass…I’m just saying….doesn’t that throw the theory of the missing parent/influence out the window. Mother in the home still have manly butch lesbians. Father out the home and you have fem guys…..I don’t thnk the parent is the determining factor in the waysomeone express themselves
meanNsurly

Do you “choose” to be straight?
IsaiahsMom

SR says: instead of hanging out on the street corners or robbing little old ladies.
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SR–hoodlums have ALWAYS robbed innocent pedestrians! Actually, I want to say that the height of crime may have been in the 80s with the rise of crack.

I know that we want to argue that it takes a man to raise a man but I feel that women have been doing this very same tasks since the beginning of time. To say that a woman can’t raise a boy to be a man means that my dad, brother, cousins and uncles aren’t yet ‘men’. I do agree that men are needed to take care of BOTH boys and girls, but I feel that single moms have been doing a heck of a job doing it by themselves thus far *pats self on back*

I highly doubt that these kids are screwed up because they don’t have father figures in their lives. They’re just in denial about their sexuality….

Secretly, I am jealous that I can’t rock my hips/shake my ass like these guys are doing though…
FloridaChick813

@Rene, I didnt know you guys went to high school together, thats cool
Mamacita

“People are not born gay, it is a decision. The only thing that is forced upon in birth is gender and ethnicity. No hate on people that are gay, but I am just saying”
FloridaChick813

Do you “choose” to be straight?

I DO! Cause God knows these beautiful women are calling my name!!

I kid, I kid. I appreciate a beautiful woman, but there is NO denying a man. And if I could “choose” to not deal with his as.s, trust me, I would. LOL
http://chokolatemilk.blogspot.com Choco

I kid, I kid. I appreciate a beautiful woman, but there is NO denying a man. And if I could “choose” to not deal with his as.s, trust me, I would. LOL
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Best sense I’ve heard all day
IsaiahsMom

<–Pro Gay rights, btw.

I also agree (as PP have said) that gay men have it the toughest.
Zephyr1979

Men and women are equal. They are equal in essence but not in function. There is a role for men to play in life and women have their roles as well. The simple matter that men and women don’t even think alike is reason enough for anybody to need that balance of male and female role models in their life. A woman can raise a boy to be mannerly, respectful and just about all the good things that she would want to have in a man; however there are certain dynamics of being a man that goes deeper than all of that and only a man can help a boy or young man through those phases in his life.
FreeToSpeakUp

meanNsurly says:

Do you “choose” to be straight?
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If you’re born with a vagina you are a woman who was made to be with a man.
http://www.facebook.com/home.php?#/profile.php?ref=profile&id=1335451522 therapist1911

Zephyr1979 says:

This isn’t cool at all

I don’t understand why if you’re gay you feel the need to act like the opposite sex. If you are a guy who likes guys, why do you feel the need to act like a woman? I’m confused…Can’t you just like the dookie hole without dressing, dancing, speaking and just overall imitating a woman?

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Because there is a difference in homosexuality and gender identity

In one of my counseling classes we had to watch a movie called “Normal”. It was about a man who wanted to dress as a woman but he was str8. He was married with children and the movie explore his transistioning and the families transitioning and adjusting. Pretty good movie that explores sexual identiy and gender identity
meanNsurly

I have like men since I can remember. I wasn’t molested by anyone in my family. Maybe I’m just an anomaly! IDK. I just know that I had both parents that loved me, disciplined me, and taught me about God! I don’t choose/prefer to be gay just like I’m sure ppl don’t choose/prefer to be straight! I kinda think of it as this; some ppl love the color red/some dont, some ppl favorite food is mac & cheese/some love chicken instead. It just is what it is! Idk why it happened! I just know I have ALWAYS been attracted to men and not women.
http://dahoneyhive.blogspot.com ryand91

If you’re born with a vagina you are a woman who was made to be with a man.
waterlily_76

FreeToSpeakUp says:

meanNsurly says:

Do you “choose” to be straight?
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If you’re born with a vagina you are a woman who was made to be with a man.

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And there you have it
Thetruth32

FloridaChick813 says:

Thanks @Thetruth32. I just put that pic up yesterday so you arent too late. LOL

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Your welcome. I was lurking most of yesterday but I saw the one with long hair
http://twitter.com/Q_ATLANTIS Q_ATLANTIS

I hate that single moms are being attacked with this post. My son is not being raised to dance like a stripper. In fact, although I’m a single parent I try to keep positive male role models in his face.

Also, I’m jealous I can’t watch this video until I get home.
Thetruth32

Hey Mean
meanNsurly

Well please someone explain homosexuality in animals…… Its not uncommon and it happens all the time. Do they also “choose” to be gay? Are they suffering from a disorder?
KrayZKat

It’s common knowledge that many boys suffer from a lack of fathers in their lives. Isn’t that what we’ve been talking about for eons?

My mom raised three children (1 boy) as a single, divorced mother, and my brother came out great, but there is no doubt, by even his own admission, that he missed out on not having a father in the home (his father died in the military).

Also, where is the genetic origin of homosexuality? Who has proven it? Is it just a theory?
FloridaChick813

If you’re born with a vagina you are a woman who was made to be with a man.

So just because you have a vagina you have to be with a man?? I mean, yes God made women for men, but as you can see, times have changed. Men are dating men, people are having s3x changes, and then getting pregnant :/ Just because you have a vagina, doesnt mean your attracted to men. #JustMyTake #NoShade
FreeToSpeakUp

“If you’re born with a vagina you are a woman who was made to be with a man”

When I said this I wasn’t being rude or a smart as.s, our bodies are designed for one another. The vagina is desgined for the insertion of a penis. We have ovaries and eggs to be fertilized by sperm of men. If this isn’t a good enough explanation for WHY women and men are MADE to be with each other. Both sex have rectums because they were made for the same function, to dispose solid waste.
FreeToSpeakUp

meanNsurly says:

Well please someone explain homosexuality in animals…… Its not uncommon and it happens all the time. Do they also “choose” to be gay? Are they suffering from a disorder
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Is there documented evidence of homosexual animals? I know incest exist, and even in animals with incest, there are birth and mental deformities.
meanNsurly

I understand what everyone is saying but it burns me up to hear ppl say that I “choose” to be gay. No one understands the ridicule you face on a DAILY basis to be gay. Magnify that by the fact that you are a Black Gay Male in the South! For me I’m lucky that I have a family that is understanding (not saying that they agree with me) but they accept me and my boyfriend as their own. Many don’t have that. Everyone on here that is black can understand discrimination, now imagine if your own family despises you just because you are black! Thats what we go through. Their own mothers, fathers, aunts, and uncles have nothing to do with their own just because their Gay. The same mother that had you, now claims they don’t even have a son. I’m not asking anyone to agree with me, just asking ppl to be tolerant of it! Stop thinking in a linear way and expand on your knowledge on the subject.
http://facebook.com/Im2thick4u 2thick4u

Jesus take the wheel…wow they were doing to much in such a short amount of time !!

Watching this video does not suprise me at all…this is what lack of parenting and community involvement get you…someone taking the time to video tape 3 boys dancing to Booty Song!!
meanNsurly

@Free…..yes it is. Its a documentary on logo (gay channel) that shows homosexuality in nature. Ranging from deer, birds, sharks, insects, etc.
FloridaChick813

When I said this I wasn’t being rude or a smart as.s, our bodies are designed for one another. The vagina is desgined for the insertion of a penis. We have ovaries and eggs to be fertilized by sperm of men. If this isn’t a good enough explanation for WHY women and men are MADE to be with each other. Both sex have rectums because they were made for the same function, to dispose solid waste.

And I with this completely. But just cause we’re made that way, doesnt mean thats how it happens. My laptop at work was made for me to work with, but as you can see, Im on SR chatting with ya’ll 97% of the day
VIBABY

Is the big dude wearing a cami? Abomination……
KrayZKat

@Mean – I’ve read about homosexuality in animals before, and from what some people say is that even though homosexual activities have occurred in animals, they don’t do it on a regular basis. Animals are geared to use sex for procreating, and not pleasure.
lexdiamonz

@ mean was your father “overly” masucline I see a lot of young gay guys who come from homes where the dad has “ruled with an iron fist so to speak and to answer your question I think (phenotypically) u choose who you are sexually attracted too, i for one do not belive people are “born” gay being that sexuality is different from gender,race which is inheritly(genotypically) who u are…. i know a male who had a sex change to be a woman and now dates women (he was prior military) i think we all can have a sexual attraction to the same or opposite sex…. I think “chose” to be straight when i decided to have sex with a man simple as that now if i had chosen to be with a woman then technically i would be a lesbian correct not to cause a debate about whether being gay is a medical or learned behavior but i always find it interesting when people ask straight people did they choose to be straight in my mind the answer is yes

I think the simple fact is most men choose to be gay because the love Dyck just like me hell if i did not love Dyck so much i probably would be a lesbian LOL!!!!
https://www.createspace.com/3393054 iscream

Can’t see video but didn’t you just post a few weeks ago boasting on how lesbuns raise successful children like I said in that post two women raise great kids but one woman raises criminals and gays? Gtfoh.

So I guess this is the future Monica kids are headed for

*and no I don’t believe this is where her kids are headed but if its good for the goose…… You know the rest.
Mamacita

WHy does everyone think we’re attacking single moms? Who said that? I know that some mothers choose to raise children on their own and some are FORCED to raise them on their own. No one EVER said that a woman CAN’T raise a child. That’s not the issue, the issue is that There are somethings that mothers don’t know about being a man. If you’re not a man how can you teach someone how to be a man? For example I play the flute and I can teach someone how to play a flute. I can’t pick up a trumpet and try to teach someone how to play it. I’ve seen it played before and have heard it but I DO NOT know how to play one so therefore I could never teach someone how to play it. Another example, I’m an engineer and I can teach someone how to be oand engineer. I can’t walk on a basketball court and try to teach someone basketball. I’m not a basketball player. I watch the NBA all the time and understand the game so I could explain the RULES of the gam but I COULD NEVER TEACH SOMEONE HOW TO PLAY BASKETBALL BECAUSE I’M NOT A BASKETBALL PLAYER
texarican mamacita

If women can talk all day long about how they are attracted to and have “experimented” or want to with women, what is all this about gay MEN choosing to be gay or it not being NORMAL. Make up your minds. Tit for Tat.

Translation, its all fun and games for LESBIANS (or trendy) but it’s still a no-no for GAY MEN.

Keep this hypocrisy up and there will never be a shortage of down low men.

My hats off to those like MeanNsurly because no matter how much people play around or say they have the token “gay best friend”, it is still more accepted to be a lesbian than a gay male.
FloridaChick813

We as humans cant compare ourselves to animals though. I mean, they roam free. Nobody has just “one mate”. Everybody mates with pretty much everybody. Everybody is fair game. Humans are the one creatures who want monogamy Thats why men have such a hard time being with just ONE woman. They naturally feel the need to be with and interact with numerous partners.

Do I agree with it??

Do I understand it??
renegadesince1985

@Free…Yes…I watched an entire special on homosexuality in animals…they had a lot of animals on there including monkeys, giraffes, pigs, penguins
meanNsurly

Again I totally agree that we as Black ppl need to get it together! Most of our homes are broken with only 1 parent in them! Everyone wants to know about gay males but lesbianism is also prevalent within the black community. Are the lack of males in the homes also causing lesbianism in the black female community? Or is lesbianism determined by the lack of black mothers in the home? If so then the theory is just a theory because it doesn’t hold truth the opposite way. Its easy to point the finger at a single person but hard to accept that maybe things aren’t always gonna be black and white…..gray areas do exist!
bama_n_jersey

It’s funny how some people think that being Gay is something new. There have been gay people around for as far as I can remember. When I was younger there were gay people. The only difference is that it is out in the open more now than it was before.

I am not against people being gay because it doesn’t bother me. What bothers me is the way the BLACK community treats their family members that are gay. In my opinion black gay people have it rougher than other races. I am not going to get into the ‘born vs. choice’ discussions because I am not a scientist and I haven’t seen the research but I doubt if any of our young men want to get treated the way I see them being treated by their community and their family.

By ousting them I think that drives up the suicide rate or attempted suicide rate.
FreeToSpeakUp

meanNsurly says:

@Free…..yes it is. Its a documentary on logo (gay channel) that shows homosexuality in nature. Ranging from deer, birds, sharks, insects, etc
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Since I don’t study the brains of animals to know their IQ there isn’t much I can say besides how does a animal show that they are homosexual and not mistaken identity
FloridaChick813

Heeeeyyyyyy texarican, long time no see mama!!!!! and all that!!!
waterlily_76

FloridaChick813 says:

We as humans cant compare ourselves to animals though. I mean, they roam free. Nobody has just “one mate”. Everybody mates with pretty much everybody. Everybody is fair game. Humans are the one creatures who want monogamy Thats why men have such a hard time being with just ONE woman. They naturally feel the need to be with and interact with numerous partners.
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I really believe that deep down inside MOST men would love to roam the earth having sex with women at will. And many of them get away with it today.
FreeToSpeakUp

@ Rene and Mean

These animals have relationships? Because when I’ve watched documentaries on animals, the male mates and usually keep it moving. I’ve never know animals to have relationships.
Anna

meanNsurly says:

I understand what everyone is saying but it burns me up to hear ppl say that I “choose” to be gay. No one understands the ridicule you face on a DAILY basis to be gay. Magnify that by the fact that you are a Black Gay Male in the South! For me I’m lucky that I have a family that is understanding (not saying that they agree with me) but they accept me and my boyfriend as their own. Many don’t have that. Everyone on here that is black can understand discrimination, now imagine if your own family despises you just because you are black! Thats what we go through. Their own mothers, fathers, aunts, and uncles have nothing to do with their own just because their Gay. The same mother that had you, now claims they don’t even have a son. I’m not asking anyone to agree with me, just asking ppl to be tolerant of it! Stop thinking in a linear way and expand on your knowledge on the subject.
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Well said. Thanks. I never understood why one would choose to be a ‘outsider”. We are who we are.
Mamacita

@Flo “So just because you have a vagina you have to be with a man?? I mean, yes God made women for men, but as you can see, times have changed. Men are dating men, people are having s3x changes, and then getting pregnant Just because you have a vagina, doesnt mean your attracted to men. #JustMyTake #NoShade”

Times have changed but God and his principles haven’t. So although many things are accepted now it doesn’t make them right. And as @Free said Man was MADE to be with woman, and woman was MADE to be with man.
waterlily_76

FreeToSpeakUp says:

@ Rene and Mean

These animals have relationships? Because when I’ve watched documentaries on animals, the male mates and usually keep it moving. I’ve never know animals to have relationships.

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sounds like a lot of dudes I know.
2cents

@therapist1911

That is my opinion and I stand by it. God made animals and people. Why is it that you never see males dogs screwing each other, or bulls. I don’t belive that there is a “gay” gene. I have seen to many “gay” people swtich back and forth especially women, therefore you were not born that way you are just confused. I don’t dislike gay people I have a brother that is gay and know several gay people.
FreeToSpeakUp

@ Texarican

Most of the women who are on here that talk about experimenting with another woman are with men. I think that they are on a different level of freak when it comes to sex, like they’ve had sex so much with a man in so many different ways, the only new form they can try is with the opposite sex. I am a freak as well and I crossed my line with anal sex. That’s not what my bottom is for BUT I wanted to try something different. However, I don’t like sex to the extinct that I want or desire to be with a woman.

#myopinion and #noshadeatnobody
aries

A woman can raise a boy to be a man. But a woman can not tell a boy how it is to be a man.
lexdiamonz

I also am pro-gay rights because I have NO BASIS to dictate to another human being how to live their life as long as 2 consenting adults are mutually making the decisions to participate in whatever actions they choose that is their right my son is gay and he came from a good loving home with two loving hetero parents who taught him to be WHATEVER he wanted to be in life and decide on WHOMEVER he wanted to share that life with to make him happy and we will love him regardless so did we do a good job HELL YEAH he has a wonderful job, partner, life, and has never been arrested, talked back or been in any sort of trouble about to graduate college,has good credit pays his own bills, and treats all people with respect…. i have never seen him “twerk” or whatever these kids are doing but these ARE KIDS in my book they dont even know what they are going to wear to school tommorrow LOL!!!!!!
meanNsurly

@Lex: No my dad was a normal dad and had all the ambitions of any typical dad in the South. We had a good relationship for the most part but since he was my dad you know we had arguments! I’m a momma’s boy but my dad wasn’t beating me or overly masculine. Like I said before maybe I’m an anomaly. I see where you coming from, and I KNOW a lot of “straight” ppl would disagree with your comment!

Everybody wanna say that humas are made to procreate which is true. My question is what if you are straight and have no ambitions to have kids. Is that somehow “bad” since you are denying yourself the right to have children?
FreeToSpeakUp

The reason “I” believe people choose to be gay regardless or any backlash because people choose to drink and drive, have unprotected sex and break the law knowing the consequences. I think it’s the same thing. That’s something we are all guilty of.
FloridaChick813

@ Mama, I never said it was right. But that doesnt mean its wrong either. For some folks it may feel right, so thats just what they do.
renegadesince1985

@ Rene and Mean

These animals have relationships? Because when I’ve watched documentaries on animals, the male mates and usually keep it moving. I’ve never know animals to have relationships.
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They sure do…The species of monkey (I don’t remember the name) The females only engaged in “relationships” with other females. They had sex with men to get pregnant then kept it moving back to the females.

S/N I watched that entire Life special…it’s amazing the intelligence of some animals…especially primates. Also at the Atlanta Zoo, the big orangutan knew sign language and even had his own freaking computer! I was blown away!
FreeToSpeakUp

*extense
http://chokolatemilk.blogspot.com Choco

I definitely don’t think ppl choose to be being a parent of a 23 y o lesbian….
http://chokolatemilk.blogspot.com Choco

Meant to say choose to be gay
lexdiamonz

i agree society is more accepting of lesbians but is that not the same thing as gay men even the terms are more “user” friendly but I would hope we all become more “tolerant” as a people because NO ONE deserves to be persecuted for their sexuality… if u love someone what they are and who they are NEVER matters
FreeToSpeakUp

renegadesince1985 says:

@ Rene and Mean

These animals have relationships? Because when I’ve watched documentaries on animals, the male mates and usually keep it moving. I’ve never know animals to have relationships.
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They sure do…The species of monkey (I don’t remember the name) The females only engaged in “relationships” with other females. They had sex with men to get pregnant then kept it moving back to the females.

S/N I watched that entire Life special…it’s amazing the intelligence of some animals…especially primates. Also at the Atlanta Zoo, the big orangutan knew sign language and even had his own freaking computer! I was blown away
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So the two female monkeys were each others vaginas? Sounds far fetched.
biglegs36

I believe that people are born gay, but for some I think it’s a choice. I think some people use it as a fad. My cousin who is only 3yrs older then me who has always been girlie. He has a younger brother and their father was in their lives. But he always wanted to do what the girls were doing. We were all ruff kids, the girls would play football and stuff with the boys, but he would be the only boy that wanted to play with dolls and paint his nails and comb hair. We weren’t exposed to homosexuality, so where would he have gotten it from. He had two live different lives for years, until one day he was like Fcuk It! Here I am this is my boyfriend and boo! I don’t love him any less because he is gay. But like everyone else has said, who would choose to be ridiculed, beat up, spit on, discriminated against or disowned by their families just so they can be gay?
FloridaChick813

@ Free, I see where you are coming from, but I dont think how much s3x I’ve had with a man is what makes me desire women. Before I even had s3x, I would admire a beautiful woman I dont think im gay though, but thats only based on the fact that I’ve never been with a woman.
texarican mamacita

@Free

Then that would make them no different from the animals quoted above who do not discriminate unto which gender they choose to release their sexual urges on. It is not a relationship if you can all willy nilly go back and forth but claim that the “real” gender and therefore sexual preference is for the opposite sex, just to avoid being labeled homosexual.

I don’t have a vested interest in the topic; however, it really irks me that we can choose who is normal and who is not with such an ease as long as we are the ones who fall on the side of “The Normal” ones.

Anyway, off to class.
FloridaChick813

In light of everything, just remember ONE thing everybody. Opinions are like as.s holes, everybody has one! It just up to us, as mature adults, to respect each others opinions
meanNsurly

@Free: Yes. These animals have relationships with their partner. They do go off to mate but they will return to their partners! I can’t remember the specific types but its informative and not widely known. And its important due to the nature vs. nurture argument! And I don’t agree with men switching back and forth or even hiding it from their woman about the activities they partake in. Thats just wrong to me!

@Lex: See thats what I’m talking about. I know a lot of gay ppl that don’t have a loving home. I’m not even your son but I say thank you for that because it says a lot about you and means a lot for your son for you NOT to turn your back on him. Family is all you need and thats so true. Without mine I wouldn’t know where I would be.

@Waterlily: you a fool
Mamacita

FloridaChick813 says:

@ Mama, I never said it was right. But that doesnt mean its wrong either. For some folks it may feel right, so thats just what they do.

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Serial Killers think that killing people “feels right” so does that make killing right? just an example. There is always a right and a wrong.
FreeToSpeakUp

meanNsurly says:

@Lex: No my dad was a normal dad and had all the ambitions of any typical dad in the South. We had a good relationship for the most part but since he was my dad you know we had arguments! I’m a momma’s boy but my dad wasn’t beating me or overly masculine. Like I said before maybe I’m an anomaly. I see where you coming from, and I KNOW a lot of “straight” ppl would disagree with your comment!

Everybody wanna say that humas are made to procreate which is true. My question is what if you are straight and have no ambitions to have kids. Is that somehow “bad” since you are denying yourself the right to have children
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usually people who don’t want kids will admit that they are selfish and would rather not share their time/money on a child. Honestly, it’s bittersweet. Why? Because you should want to be fruitful and multiply BUT it’s good that you are responsible enough in avoiding being an unfit parent.
lexdiamonz

@mean I feel you my husband is Jamaican so TRUST me it took a lot of come to Jesus moments before he accepted him… but i feel u on the dad thing all dads want you to date girls, play football basketball, be all “boy” my son never played football but he can bake a mean azz red velvet cake
waterlily_76

My good friend is a gay guy and my cousin is gay (butch) woman and I love them both.

I believe that man and woman were made for each other because that is God’s purpose.

But I am not living a good christian life, because I fornicate on the regular so I am not trying to be holier than though. I am just as wrong in his eyes.
lexdiamonz

the crazy thing is i think the light-blub went off for my husband when i was like you always taught him to be who he was and be proud of who he was and make his own decisions in life so how can u not expect him to not hide who he is LOL!!!! i think all men want to have the all-american stereotype of a son but hey gay men are sons too
meanNsurly

I don’t have a vested interest in the topic; however, it really irks me that we can choose who is normal and who is not with such an ease as long as we are the ones who fall on the side of “The Normal” ones.
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I can’t stand that either. If you aren’t “normal” then you looked down upon and are told that its not right. I’m not trying to make ppl believe homosexuality is right or wrong but just don’t think of it as wrong just because its not “normal” to u!
FreeToSpeakUp

texarican mamacita says:

@Free

Then that would make them no different from the animals quoted above who do not discriminate unto which gender they choose to release their sexual urges on. It is not a relationship if you can all willy nilly go back and forth but claim that the “real” gender and therefore sexual preference is for the opposite sex, just to avoid being labeled homosexual.

I don’t have a vested interest in the topic; however, it really irks me that we can choose who is normal and who is not with such an ease as long as we are the ones who fall on the side of “The Normal” ones.

Anyway, off to class
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I never mentioned anyone being normal or abnormal. I stated facts. Enjoy your class.
FreeToSpeakUp

FloridaChick813 says:

In light of everything, just remember ONE thing everybody. Opinions are like as.s holes, everybody has one! It just up to us, as mature adults, to respect each others opinions
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renegadesince1985

@Free

I don’t remember them but the females would mount each other and grind…
waterlily_76

I meant holier than *thou*……I need coffee
http://www.facebook.com/home.php?#/profile.php?ref=profile&id=1335451522 therapist1911

People are confusing feelings and actions. Gays for the most part don’t choose thier feelings. Everyone choose to act on sex. HEll you could be a virgin all your lfe unless you choose to have sex.

Having an attraction to someone is innate. Acting on the attraction sexually is a choice no matter the gender or sexuality.

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Is geontypically and phenotypically a word. I don’t remember learning those in Genetics. And I have a degree in Bio/Pre Med.

Genotype and Phenotype maybe *shurgs*
https://sandrarose.com Sandra Rose

FreeToSpeakUp says:

Everybody wanna say that humas are made to procreate which is true. My question is what if you are straight and have no ambitions to have kids. Is that somehow “bad” since you are denying yourself the right to have children

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Having children is not a “right” or a law of Nature. If that was the case then we females would have the ability to impregnate ourselves (like the Earthworm). We make the choice to have children, and most of us should not make that choice since we are not fit to raise kids.
lexdiamonz

waterlily_76 says
My good friend is a gay guy and my cousin is gay (butch) woman and I love them both.

I believe that man and woman were made for each other because that is God’s purpose.

But I am not living a good christian life, because I fornicate on the regular so I am not trying to be holier than though. I am just as wrong in his eyes.

@ “fornicate”

I just hate when people start quoting the Bible and throwing “Jesus” at gay people i mean the Bible also says something about eating “shellfish” and scavangers but that dont stop “churchfolk” from going to red lobster on Sunday LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
meanNsurly

@Flo: Bish you are like Tiny…..you held it down! LOL!

@Lex: Yep fathers do. And I don’t like to hear when parents ask themselves “Did I raise him wrong?” No you didn’t. You raised him correctly. Your child is who they are! Ppl differ. There is no controlling that. I can cook a lil but I hate doing that so your son got 1 up on me!

@Free: #NoTeaNoShade! You know I still love you. I’m not pressed by anything that was said. Everyone is entitled to their own opinion. And there are a plethora of more subjects that we wont agree on. This is just one of them. LOL. But for real look at the movie if you can ever find it. See I enjoy knowledge! I love to expand my way of thinking and I see that you like that too (I can tell by the way u type).

Back on the subject: I think its tasteless to post a video of you booty shaking on youtube anyways whether you are a male or female. What is the point? Why do it? You not gonna get famous. Its just gonna become another viral video
Al-Ameera

Wow, this post opened up a whole can.

I use to have certain thoughts about sexuality and whether or not people “chose” to be gay or not. But, after living and meeting different people and having different experiences, my views are not exactly the same anymore.

It’s funny how you can come to certain revelations and learn things by just observing. I keep noticing things on here but in an attempt NOT to psycho analyze anyone; I’ll keep it to myself
http://chokolatemilk.blogspot.com Choco

I think its tasteless to post a video of you booty shaking on youtube anyways whether you are a male or female. What is the point? Why do it? You not gonna get famous
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Now this is the real reality behind that video thank you!
https://sandrarose.com Sandra Rose

aries says:

A woman can raise a boy to be a man. But a woman can not tell a boy how it is to be a man.

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And to the reader who said she doesn’t know where her cousin got it from, he gets it from mimicking you and the other females in his environment.
biglegs36

I think people should be able to live their lives however they choose. What makes you happy,is your buziness.
FreeToSpeakUp

renegadesince1985 says:

@Free

I don’t remember them but the females would mount each other and grind…

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Animals usually mate by sense of smell not sight. That’s why I am confused at the relationship part. Gay’s say they are “attracted” to the other sex or I am trying to understand that in the homosexual animal study
https://sandrarose.com Sandra Rose

FreeToSpeakUp says:

I am a freak as well and I crossed my line with anal sex. That’s not what my bottom is for

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bama_n_jersey

@lex…that is so good that you accept your son for who he is. I know a lot of people that don’t. I have three gay cousins in my family. Two have came out to the family and the other one hasn’t (even though everyone already knows). The one that hasn’t is wild and just all over the place. I think he is like this because he heard all the negative talk that some of my aunts and cousins were saying about the other two. I also think he is like that because he doesn’t feel accepted.

@waterlily….that is the same thing I told my cousin one day when she called me talking about our male cousins are going to hell and what they are doing is not of God. My question to her was ‘Is everything you are doign of God?’ No…she had a baby out of wedlock (so did I) and here she is calling me judging someone else. How is one sin greater than the other? But then my ‘CHRISTIAN’ family is always judging and downing other people so what should I expect.I try not to judge people and I try to accept people the same way I want to be accepted.
FreeToSpeakUp

meanNsurly says:

@Free: #NoTeaNoShade! You know I still love you. I’m not pressed by anything that was said. Everyone is entitled to their own opinion. And there are a plethora of more subjects that we wont agree on. This is just one of them. LOL. But for real look at the movie if you can ever find it. See I enjoy knowledge! I love to expand my way of thinking and I see that you like that too (I can tell by the way u type).
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How can you tell by the way I type? You sound like NUNU and T.I. on ATL “I can tell you got confidence by the way you skate”
FreeToSpeakUp

@ Sandra
lexdiamonz

@ therapist1911

touche’ LOL

basicALLY i used the suffix ically as an adverb to describe the words “phenotype” and “genotype”

as u know

A phenotype is any observable characteristic
and
The genotype is the genetic make-up of an individual

hmmm i was sure University of Pheonix taught yall that
https://sandrarose.com Sandra Rose

2cents says:

I don’t belive that there is a “gay” gene. I have seen to many “gay” people swtich back and forth especially women, therefore you were not born that way you are just confused.

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Even though I am a lesbun, I totally agree with this.
OutsidetheBox

“…I have seen too many “gay” people swtich back and forth especially women…”

“Even though I am a lesbun, I totally agree with this.”

So, if you like women recreationally you are gay?

#newsflashforme
RedRobyn

Sandra Rose says:

2cents says:

I don’t belive that there is a “gay” gene. I have seen to many “gay” people swtich back and forth especially women, therefore you were not born that way you are just confused.

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Even though I am a lesbun, I totally agree with this.
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I have a question about this. I havent come to a determination as to whether I think people are born this way or not. Now i definitely think there are ppl who choose to be gay but I’m not sure if some gay people are born this way or not. But my thinking is – What if it is a brain defect. We all know ppl are born with deformities (mental, physical, psychological) So would this fall in the mental/psychological form of a deformity/defect? This could just be one form of a brain defect which would mean they are “born” gay?
FreeToSpeakUp

lexdiamonz says:

hmmm i was sure University of Pheonix taught yall that
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renegadesince1985

@Free

I don’t know the biology about it all…I just remember watching them and thinking it was fascinating. They also showed some males that liked to play with each other’s balls…..
FreeToSpeakUp

@ RedRobyn

To say it’s a brain deformity is crossing the line of what’s normal and abnormal.
FreeToSpeakUp

renegadesince1985 says:

@Free

I don’t know the biology about it all…I just remember watching them and thinking it was fascinating. They also showed some males that liked to play with each other’s balls…..
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please stop!
FreeToSpeakUp

In my Tawya voice…”Hey Sexy face” @ OTB
lexdiamonz

one thing i dont understand about lesbians is how you not like the “magic” stick if we are applying the “gay” stereotype did they get “molested” or turned gay by a bad experience with a man i think we read too much into it you like what you like PERIOD i think most chicks are lezz cuss they like the “screaming” cat end of story i for one dont want nothing “soft” on me but some cashmere so to each his/her own
renegadesince1985

@lexdiamonz

Oh and skee-wee soror!!!
VIBABY

@RedRobyn

I agree with you. I think its a genetic defect.
meanNsurly

@Red: That could be possible. I’m not disagreeing with that! Scientist haven’t discovered everything nor will I think they ever will. Some things are unexplainable. I do agree with you that some ppl choose to be gay but I know I don’t fall into category so just don’t make a generalization. Its been acceptable for yrs for women to bi or lesbun but your look down upon if you are a gay man ESPECIALLY a gay black man! I just dont understand it!

I am pro gay rights. I feel that we should have all the liberties that everyone has! I am pro gay marriage too. I know a lot of gay ppl that are against it! I just think its wrong to say that gay men will bring down the constitution of marriage when “straight” ppl have already succeeded in that by themselves!
OutsidetheBox

*blows kisses @Free*

@Robyn for me “deformity” is negative…”defect”, bad too. I know you dont mean offense, your e-personality is too open for that but I think gays would be a little :/

I was and I’m not gay, well maybe I am according to @Sandra ‘nem. LOL #noshadetho;youknowthat
lexdiamonz

@renegade

SKEE-WEE!!!!!
BROWNSUGAPOET

Sandra it still surprises me that you dont like deep sea divin! U ruin the image that alot of people have of lesbuns!! BOOOOOOOOOOOO! I say if ur gonna do it then go all out! Suck her ovaries through her uterus and be proud!
RedRobyn

FreeToSpeakUp says:

@ RedRobyn

To say it’s a brain deformity is crossing the line of what’s normal and abnormal.
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Exactly, (and by your previous comment you believe being gay is abnormal because of the female and male body design) but if it is a brain deformity then it is abnormal. But there are things that are definitely abnormal that we accept.
pinksghetti

I agree there needs to be more dads in the home and young men and women need to be taught responsibility and a good work ethic but those are 3 gay men. Not to stereotype but gay men are always dancing in these videos. The one with the black shirt and black/white plaid pants looks like he has small breasts, LOL.
lexdiamonz

@redrobyn

up until recently it was charaterized medically as a mental defect or disorder( I work in a psych ward) that is why i believe it is a choice has anyone ever seen a “gay” baby and also i belive it is a total disservice to characterize a gay person as abnormal what the hell is normal!!!

I know plenty of gay “normal” people what u do in YOUR bedroom is your business hell some of the ish me and my husband do could be deemed “abnormal” LOL!!!!!
FreeToSpeakUp

If Sandra doesn’t is she gay? I mean, because thinking a woman is beautiful is a compliment. What do you call it if you’re not bumping fuzzies?
meanNsurly

@OTB: An anomaly of the brain could be beneficial or considered a defect. I guess it would just depends on the person. Right now I don’t see any defects of me being gay except that I have to have dyck all the time. LOL!!
FreeToSpeakUp

RedRobyn says:

FreeToSpeakUp says:

@ RedRobyn

To say it’s a brain deformity is crossing the line of what’s normal and abnormal.
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Exactly, (and by your previous comment you believe being gay is abnormal because of the female and male body design) but if it is a brain deformity then it is abnormal. But there are things that are definitely abnormal that we accept
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I never said to be gay is ABNORMAL. Mean asked do you choose to be straight. I said, if I am born with a vagina, I am a woman and I was made for a man. NEVER did I say normal or abnormal. Someone else commented on my basis LEANING towards what I felt was normal but what I stated are facts. Women and Men were made for each other and they way or bodies are made are clear evidence.
OutsidetheBox

If you can be born straight, surely you can be born gay? As you can be male or female…

#ponderings
BROWNSUGAPOET

i suddenly got the urge to do a life lesson from Tiny and Toya but I will try to refrain
FreeToSpeakUp

lexdiamonz says:

@redrobyn

up until recently it was charaterized medically as a mental defect or disorder( I work in a psych ward) that is why i believe it is a choice has anyone ever seen a “gay” baby and also i belive it is a total disservice to characterize a gay person as abnormal what the hell is normal!!!

I know plenty of gay “normal” people what u do in YOUR bedroom is your business hell some of the ish me and my husband do could be deemed “abnormal” LOL!!!!!

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OutsidetheBox

“..has anyone ever seen a “gay” baby …”

I have never seen ANY baby with a sexual orientation
RedRobyn

OutsidetheBox says:

*blows kisses @Free*

@Robyn for me “deformity” is negative…”defect”, bad too. I know you dont mean offense, your e-personality is too open for that but I think gays would be a little

I was and I’m not gay, well maybe I am according to @Sandra ‘nem. LOL #noshadetho;youknowthat
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Defect and deformity does sound negative but it is what it is. If someone is born with lets just say 4 toes, would it not be a deformity? You would describe it as a defect or deformity, no?. I am in no way trying to be mean.
FreeToSpeakUp

BROWNSUGAPOET says:

i suddenly got the urge to do a life lesson from Tiny and Toya but I will try to refrain

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Pheesh do it
lexdiamonz

ummm i met another lesbian that said she didnt eat fish ummm isnt that the point of being a lez !!! see everybody is ABNORMAL LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!
http://chokolatemilk.blogspot.com Choco

If you can be born straight, surely you can be born gay? As you can be male or female…
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FreeToSpeakUp

@ Lex
OutsidetheBox

@Mean Anomaly for me, implies unique, or maybe strange…but that is not negative, per se.

Robyn just didnt strike me as the type of sister who wanted to be on record with negative “tags”. I could be wrong. I wasnt fighting her views, just the choice of words…
http://chokolatemilk.blogspot.com Choco

If you can be born straight, surely you can be born gay? As you can be male or female…
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Not necessarily I think females desire a female’s nuturing and caring side
lexdiamonz

please BSP do it only U can break it down
OutsidetheBox

I didnt think you were @Robyn I was #justsaying. Sorry.
BROWNSUGAPOET

Tiny : “Shum people feel dey iz born gay, ish snot my job ta say if you iz or you ain’t, u just got take it as it cums and say hey dats life”
BROWNSUGAPOET

yall know i couldnt say anything that sounded too intelligent so I had to leave yall sayin “WTF did she just say”

off to class
meanNsurly

OutsidetheBox says:

“..has anyone ever seen a “gay” baby …”

I have never seen ANY baby with a sexual orientation
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Me either! From the youth of a baby you are taught everything by parents. Is being straight a learned behavior?
RedRobyn

FreeToSpeakUp says:

RedRobyn says:

FreeToSpeakUp says:

@ RedRobyn

To say it’s a brain deformity is crossing the line of what’s normal and abnormal.
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Exactly, (and by your previous comment you believe being gay is abnormal because of the female and male body design) but if it is a brain deformity then it is abnormal. But there are things that are definitely abnormal that we accept
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I never said to be gay is ABNORMAL. Mean asked do you choose to be straight. I said, if I am born with a vagina, I am a woman and I was made for a man. NEVER did I say normal or abnormal. Someone else commented on my basis LEANING towards what I felt was normal but what I stated are facts. Women and Men were made for each other and they way or bodies are made are clear evidence.
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My bad, i assumed you thought it was “abnormal”. So what would be the word you describe it as if you believe the male was designed for the female and the female was designed for the male. What would you describe a male being with a male and a female being with a female. Other than gay

And Free I aint trying to start nothing with you girl. Just curious!
FreeToSpeakUp

@ Choco

You said yes then not necessarily?
PAHairston

Hello All. So many folks believe that a boy becomes gay because he’s raised by his mother, with no men around, so he ultimately develops feminine traits and becomes gay. So what about professional athletes? Most are raised by their single mothers, with no fathers around, so why doesn’t this theory apply to them?
meanNsurly

@ Tiny on the page. She said a whole lot of NOTHING! But something she would say tho! LOL. I can see her poking her lips out with her head slightly cocked to the side!
FreeToSpeakUp

RedRobyn says:

My bad, i assumed you thought it was “abnormal”. So what would be the word you describe it as if you believe the male was designed for the female and the female was designed for the male. What would you describe a male being with a male and a female being with a female. Other than gay

And Free I aint trying to start nothing with you girl. Just curious!
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Diverse or Different. Not abnormal, there’s nothing “odd” about being gay
OutsidetheBox

Does no one remember when being Black was thought of as a defect or deformity? :/

With as much as we know about history and how things and views change, I would just hope that everyone would be on the right side of change and be open to a world that includes everybody, without making any one feel less, or “deficient” (a derivative of defect…)

Alas, “hope” is not aplan tho. #Baracksaidthat

/rainbow coalition

Imma stay out of this post today; it makes me sad. :lolol: Y’all be easy.

@Choc. I meant born female or male, born with blue eyes, born with 7 toes….ect. At leat you are born. None of that is a defect for me. But I’m a bleeding heart liberal and thats why Imma get my ass outta this post! LOL *waves*
FreeToSpeakUp

@ Red Robyn

BTW didn’t think you were starting with me, but I just like to be clear on what I say (type) because some folk have tablets keeping notes of what’s said and often misconstrue your words.
lexdiamonz

OutsidetheBox says:

Does no one remember when being Black was thought of as a defect or deformity?

YUP some places it still is LOL!!!!!!!! and like u i too am a bleeding heart lib so off i go !!!!!
FreeToSpeakUp

OutsidetheBox says:

Does no one remember when being Black was thought of as a defect or deformity?
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No but they always said “you’s sholllllleeeeee is ugggggggglllllllle” (shug avery voice)

I want to know why do they use the rainbow? I love the colors or the rainbow and be damned if I stop using them all together because of the coalition
pinksghetti

therapist1911 says:

YES MY MOM SINGLE HANDLEY RAISED ME! Were there men around? Yes. I had neighbors, church members, and other friend’s fathers but it was my MOM.

IN a way my dad still had influence. I WANTED TO BE EVERYTHING he wasn’t at the time. A better man. So if my mom ever had to depend on a man..I ewanted it to be the MAN she raised.

#certifiedandproudmama’sboy

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Even though I was also raised by a single mom and prefered to have had two parents based on how things turned out for us I love your statement especially the last paragraph.

#asaproudmama’sgirl
OutsidetheBox

The rainbow is “all inclusive” @Free.
RedRobyn

FreeToSpeakUp says:

RedRobyn says:

My bad, i assumed you thought it was “abnormal”. So what would be the word you describe it as if you believe the male was designed for the female and the female was designed for the male. What would you describe a male being with a male and a female being with a female. Other than gay

And Free I aint trying to start nothing with you girl. Just curious!
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Diverse or Different. Not abnormal, there’s nothing “odd” about being gay
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Okay, also when I said “abnormal” i was speaking in the context of “if” being gay truly is a brain defect. (again not trying to be offensive)

Disclaimer: I have no problem whatsoever anyone who is gay
http://chokolatemilk.blogspot.com Choco

because some folk have tablets keeping notes of what’s said and often misconstrue your words.
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RedRobyn

And dammit i dont know any other word to use. I am not trying to be mean though. Those are medical terms, right?
vipatlstyle

@ 2cents / 67 People are not born gay, it is a decision. The only thing that is forced upon in birth is gender and ethnicity. No hate on people that are gay, but I am just saying.

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Has that been scientifically proven? People shouldn’t speak on things unless it’s a fact. Tell me how someone can be handicapped but can’t be born attracted to the same sex?
KayCeiSoul

When all is said and done, why do people waste so much time trying to understand and lecture on why people are gay? When we already know that whatever conclusion is reached, not narry a gay person is going to thwart their happiness just because someone voices their opinion. Their need to be free, happy, and pleased overpowers everything.

I have gay friends that are both male and female, and I love them because God made them; could care less who they lay down with. The only point I make to them is to get right with God in whatever way they see fit, because in the end we all stand alone when we see His face.

Some of them attribute their sexual preference to their upbringing, some point the finger at abuse/molestation, and some just like that feeling. My best friend is a gay male, and he had me rolling when his best description of why he chases that feeling is…”honey…it’s something ’bout that prostate.”
http://chokolatemilk.blogspot.com Choco

…”honey…it’s something ’bout that prostate.”
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ROYAL thanks for that!
waterlily_76

LMAO@ KayCei

I met this gay guy that said he really feels like a woman. He got his tonsils removed so that he could give better #oralstimulation. He said that was the reason for this big diamond ring he was wearing.
http://chokolatemilk.blogspot.com Choco

He said that was the reason for this big diamond ring he was wearing
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Maya_Marie

Discovery Health Channel did a piece on homosexuality. They discovered people were in fact born gay. The had two identical twins that were reared in the same household and had the same life experiences. One was gay and one was gay. They explained that the gay twin was exposed to more estrogen or something during the early stages of the gestational period. You should really see it. It will open your eyes on the science of homosexuality.
Maya_Marie

Sorry one twin was gay and one twin was straight
OutsidetheBox

“It will open your eyes on the science of homosexuality.” @maya.

I dont think people want to. I read a tiny snippet of this on MSn the other day…

I want to see it.
MIZZ.I_REP_ATL

Hello All!!!!

Damn, I can’t even hate. Them niccas pop and drop better than me. LOL
KayCeiSoul

@CHOCO – anytime…LOL! He has something profound to share daily.

@waterlily_76 – That’s what you call taking the high road, and going that extra mile. Tonsils removed for head purposes only? OMG. *looks on-line to read up on that*
http://lovingme782.wordpress.com Ms. Everything

I’m about to read the comments but I just want to say it is VERY possible for a woman to raise a man who does not grow up to be a thug, deadbeat or gay and is very much a man. It may not be ideal but no one wants to raise their children alone so I wish all the attacks on us single mothers would stop. Yes there are lazy bishes who’d rather let music videos raise their kids and won’t put in the work to raise up adults who will be healthy minded and productive members of society but its possible and has been done many many times. My son will be 8 this year and I got him a little one day a week job in a barber shop where he’s learning responsibility, financial responsibility, saving his money for what he wants and most importantly is watching and learning from men who have raised up men and are men themselves. I have all my children do chores around the house based on their age and he does the typically man ones like taking out the trash, helping bring in groceries that sort of thing. He knows to open the door for women and pull out chairs and knows nothing about the filth in the industry and he is treated with love, compassion and respect but I also discipline swiftly and appropriately with him. I do the same for all my kids and they are turning out great with me doing it alone. So please stop with the attacks on us hard working single mothers, we need support not hate because most of us are doing a damn good job and deserve praise not criticism
scandalous1

Lmao @ Sandra. I can’t even say what I wanna say, because i’m sure it will get me kicked off this site. So all I will say is thats why some lesbians and gays don’t get along. BOO!!!
http://chokolatemilk.blogspot.com Choco

So please stop with the attacks on us hard working single mothers, we need support not hate because most of us are doing a damn good job and deserve praise not criticism
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You should’ve read the comments the attack was not on single mothers…
scandalous1

meanNsurly says:

I understand what everyone is saying but it burns me up to hear ppl say that I “choose” to be gay. No one understands the ridicule you face on a DAILY basis to be gay. Magnify that by the fact that you are a Black Gay Male in the South! For me I’m lucky that I have a family that is understanding (not saying that they agree with me) but they accept me and my boyfriend as their own. Many don’t have that. Everyone on here that is black can understand discrimination, now imagine if your own family despises you just because you are black! Thats what we go through. Their own mothers, fathers, aunts, and uncles have nothing to do with their own just because their Gay. The same mother that had you, now claims they don’t even have a son. I’m not asking anyone to agree with me, just asking ppl to be tolerant of it! Stop thinking in a linear way and expand on your knowledge on the subject.

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I could not agree more with you….
His_Mommy623

@ er’thang sandra wrote under that video…too much
Maya_Marie

Hi His! *waves*

@OTB

You should definitely check it out! I personally believe true gay people are born gay. Now there are some people who are “gay for pay” or whatever, I’m not talking about those opportunist.
aqtpie

Oh my at that video!!!
His_Mommy623

@maya

How are u bew…
Candi Apple

As long as your happy with your life and honest to others (who you’re fvcking) the rest doesn’t matter. I would only suggest being sensative toward your parents because they have hopes and dreams for their children (not only to live wright but some want grandchildren).

I choose not to judge and just let people be who they are. However I can joke about any subject and nobody can stop me. LOL

I don’t believe people and animals have the same brain capacity (IQ’s are made differently which is why they are animals and we are human).

I can say so much more but I’ve decided (NO) LOL….
Ms. Thickness

I WAS WONDERING WHERE EVERYONE WAS AT!WHATS GOING ON UP IN HERE
http://lovingme782.wordpress.com Ms. Everything

Choco I skimmed just enough to see single mothers and I’m still going through but now I can see its about young men turning gay and I just had a discussion with a church friend who attended a bible study at another church and the entire topic was how single mothers unable to raise men are the reason for young men becoming gay and or feminine so maybe I jumped a lil to conclusions but in my eyes its still the same. Unfortunately in the eyes of too many at the end of the day the problem falls back to us not the men who are choosing to be absent in their childrens lives or are there setting bad examples or the fact that you can only raise a child for so long and then all you can do is pray that they go in the direction you taught them. Still reading though and if I’m wrong I will come back and say so
http://lovingme782.wordpress.com Ms. Everything

Oh yeah and regardless of the direction the comments are going the post was still yet another attack on single mothers raising young men
Daisy

They KILLED that
pointhimout

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