Sara Stewart of the NY Post has an excellent brief summary of Oprah Winfrey's past 25 years as one of the most influential TV talk show moguls in history.

There is no doubt that the so-called "Oprah Effect" has shaped the consciousness of many and influenced popular culture. But as Stewart points out, "occasionally, that influence has backfired."

The “Oprah effect” has shaped our national consciousness in profound ways. “There are a lot of people whose lives are better, thanks to what she’s done,” says Robert Thompson, founding director of the Bleier Center for Television and Popular Culture at Syracuse University. “Her whole message of empowerment is the idea that you can change your circumstances.”

Occasionally, however, that influence has seriously misfired.

“Oprah has mainstreamed a lot of very questionable characters in my opinion,” anti-cult therapist Steven Hassan has said, pointing to Oprah acolyte James Arthur Ray whose infamous sweat lodge led to the deaths of three people in 2009.
The megalithic TV host and producer has also arguably helped to foster an unprecedented level of national narcisissm, and a mass susceptibility to snake-oil salesmen disguised as self-improvement gurus. She’s given a national platform to controversial topics, such as the “link” between childhood vaccines and autism, which have had ramifications far beyond the Nielsen ratings.

As Stewart notes: "No single American personality in recent years has influenced our culture as pervasively as Oprah Winfrey.

But Oprah's celebration of mediocrity, her lack of true insight into her own failings, and her inability to see past the tip of her grandiose nose will forever mark her as one of the biggest narcissists in the history of television.

Source: NYP

  • Fayla

    whoever thought of bey handing out diplomas to the dancers was the best idea of the perfomance imo..dude from rascal flatts sang his azz off yesterday!

  • bbclivy

    I TOTALLY AGREE! OPRAH REALLY ONLY CARES FOR THE MIDDLE AMERICAN WHITE FEMALE/HOUSEHOLD! SCREW OPRAH! :applause:

  • Fayla

    as for Oprah, whatever she's done i think it's been more good than bad (regarding her show) my opinion of her has changed over the years no doubt, but at the end of the day if nothing else she has shown what's really possible for us as black women in this country. the woman literally came from nothing to be one of the most powerful women in the world. #narcissist&all :lol:

  • http://twitter.com/_imOther_ Mamacita

    :rolleyes:

    It's so sad how we tear eachother down even when we're doing good. Damned if you do and damned if you don't.

    :applause: to Oprah. She overcame all the odds and has helped A LOT of people along her journey. No hate from me.

  • Tatted Diva

    :cosign: w/Fayla. That ish was bang!

    :preach: bbclivy. I totally agree that Oprah has a certain demographic she preference. But I truly do not take it personal because I'm not one to :-P ass in the first place!

  • lexdiamonz

    who the hell listens to oprah she can't even control her own BMI .... LOL....and am i the only one disappointed in the FLOTUS "endorsing" Beyaki... now THAT is what we want to teach our daughters ... shake your azz, don't finish school, marry a ex-drug dealer and you will BE ON TOP OF THE WORLD making paper.... aww hell i digress that IS THE FORUMLA for success.........

  • http://twitter.com/_imOther_ Mamacita

    bbclivy says:

    I TOTALLY AGREE! OPRAH REALLY ONLY CARES FOR THE MIDDLE AMERICAN WHITE FEMALE/HOUSEHOLD! SCREW OPRAH!

    -------

    Oprah supports the people who support her.

  • http://gravatar.com/avatar/988d46cecf9cfeaf6f62585ac14fcb78?s=80 Liyah74

    I have had enough of Beyonce. What's up with that sound? Is this the type of music we are putting out there now? Her stans need to be ashamed of themselves for supporting this type of music.

  • WUTWUZMISSIN!

    I think Oprah did what she was suppose to do. Peoples perception is peoples perception. There are some that will love you and some that will hate you no matter what you do. Sandra you among all people should understand that I still remember the nice title they gave you "The Most Infamous Blogger" was it? :coffee:

  • free

    Fayla says: as for Oprah, whatever she’s done i think it’s been more good than bad (regarding her show) my opinion of her has changed over the years no doubt, but at the end of the day if nothing else she has shown what’s really possible for us as black women in this country. the woman literally came from nothing to be one of the most powerful women in the world. #narcissist&all

    ********************************

    this. i don't care if she caters to YT or not. that's her base and they love and support her. her job is to make money for the network. are we tuning in to monique? have you seen wendy williams' audience?

  • change

    If you wake up and wait for Oprah and Dr. phil to tell you what to do with your life then you have a problem.
    You have an option to use whats given to you or not, that's not Oprah's doing that's your own.

    Secondly, why can't we be happy for this BLACK WOMAN you came from nothing, why do SOME black people feel like Oprah and other successful black people are suppose to pay their bills. My momma always told me people help you when they see you helping yourself...stop complaining and get off your a$$ and do something with your own life instead of complaining about the COMPLISHMENTS of others!!!

    #goingbacktolurkmode

  • intensemocha

    MEN MORESO & SPECIFICALLY BEIGE MEN ARE PERCEIVED AS SUCCESSFUL OR MOGULS OFF THE BACKS OF OTHERS EVERDAY DAMN DAY, AND HOW THEY ACHIEVED THEIR SUCCESS ISN'T RIPPED TO SHREDS AND DISECTED BIT BY BIT

    NOBODY WANTS TO DISCUSS THEIR CHARACTER FLAWS/PERSONAL FAILURES-WHAT MATTERS IS THAT THEY HAVE LOTS AND LOTS OF MONEY, POWER, AND THEY ARE RESPECTED

    BUT BOY OH BOY THE CAT CLAWS COME OUT IN FULL EFFECT WHEN A WOMAN ACHIEVES THE SAME LEVEL OF SUCCESS FINANCIALLY AS THESE SAME MEN, AND ALL OF A SUDDEN WE WANT TO STAND ON OUR "SOAP BOXES" AND "READ THEM THEIR RIGHTS" ABOUT HOW THEY ARE NOT ALL OF THAT AND THEY ARE REALLY NOT THAT SUCCESSFUL AT ALL DESPITE THEIR RANKING ON FORBES, IE THE BEYONCE POST REGARDING THE AWARD SHE RECIEVED

    MEN DON'T HAVE TIME FOR THIS SHIAT, THEY DON'T BOTHER TO WRITE ABOUT HOW ONE MAN'S SUCCESS ISN'T REALLY SUCCESS BECAUSE OF WHAT VALUES HE LACKS OR WHAT HE'S DONE IN HIS PERSONAL LIFE-CAN WE SAY ARNOLD SWARCHA FUG UP? NOBODY CARES, HE'S A MAN AND HE'S FILTHY RICH AND SUCCESSFUL

    HOW ABOUT A BIG FUG U TO SARA STEWART AND ALL THE REST OF HER "MEAN GIRL" SELF-LOATHING MYSOGINISTIC, LOW SELF-ESTEEM, CATTY, INSECURE POSSE WHO SIT SO HIGH AND LOOK DOWN THEIR NOSES AT THOSE WHO LIVE THEIR LIVES NOT ACCORDING TO BARBARIC STANDARDS FORCED FED BY X-JUNE CLEAVERS AND THE "GOOD OLE BOY CREW" BUT THEIR "OWN" STANDARDS!!

    WHO RUNS THE WORLD "GIRLS, GIRLS, GIRLS" MIDDLE FINGER (WISH THERE WAS AN EMOTION FOR MIDDLE FINGER) HATERS SIT AND SPIN :peace:

  • lexdiamonz

    I had a talk with a Swedish professer who ASSURED me the KEY reason to Oprah's success is she chose NOT to align herself with black people therefore propelling her to the status she is .... i was offended at first but then i realized HE WAS RIGHT because house niggas will always support and endorse people who have nothing to do with him and anytime someone points out issues or flaws in that person they will instantly say somebody is HATING !LOL!!!!! but i also pointed out to him "white Amerikka" always has gravitated towards the "non-threatening" black women because they figure you are not the standard of beauty so you are no competition for them, their men will not want you so it is like hattie mcdaniel in gone with the wind ....they like your "attitude" and you quick wit and "slang" so they love you and see you as Mammy. needless to say he shut up after that LOL!!!!! yeah Oprah is rich and she did some great things and we applaud her for that .... but trust me she aint gone no where she will be back

  • LadyT

    I agree the lead singer from Rascal Flatts stole the show and thats hard to do when Patty LaBelle is on the program. Oprah Winfrey has done more good in her life than most of us ever will. Yes her audience is mainstream America but who's isnt? That's where the money is: old white folks!

  • WUTWUZMISSIN!

    change says:

    If you wake up and wait for Oprah and Dr. phil to tell you what to do with your life then you have a problem.
    You have an option to use whats given to you or not, that’s not Oprah’s doing that’s your own.

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    Well said....

  • Fayla

    I tried to watch Mo'Nique's show, couldn't gett into it (her shuck & jive man irks me) & my work schedule doesn't allow me to watch Wendy but when I have it's ok, no big deal for me. Where are you going with ur line of questioning?

  • Smonae80

    Bey never disappointments, & she is an excellent role model & has a great work ethic.. the only people who should be ashamed are the ones that make ignorant comments..

  • xoxoV76

    I TOTALLY agree with this article.

  • Tatted Diva

    @ change....I def feel you on that! But I do want to address something about people being tired of Beyonce and the sound that she has now! I, like many others, are over the Beyonce thing. BUT I WILL SAY THIS, music has not been the same in a very long time. One of the reasons is because it's not suppose to be. It is suppose to evolve, change, direct towards the next generation. Music is not the same as it was for my mother or my grandmother. They could not understand the music I listened to. But we need to stop acting as if music just started falling off! I've been tired of the "Jeremiah's & the Justin Bieber's & the Cassie's & so forth!" That's why I made the decision to NOT listen to mainstream radio & buy my shyt!

  • lexdiamonz

    * i meant them* .... no shade to anyone on this post but for real do we really care about these celebs??? except to talk shyt about them .....bump oprah shout out to ms. hattie on guilford ave who worked three jobs and helped underpriviliged kids through college one person can make a difference STARS are only up in the sky !!!!!!

  • WUTWUZMISSIN!

    :blink: DANG INTENSE?!

    :lol: You meant that ish!!! I felt like the memorex commercial! My weave was blowing back in chit just from reading your comment!

  • lexdiamonz

    @wutwuz girl that sister don't play that is why her screen name is INTENSE.... LOL

  • Dawn Sheen

    Fayla says:

    whoever thought of bey handing out diplomas to the dancers was the best idea of the perfomance imo..dude from rascal flatts sang his azz off yesterday!

    _________

    DO NOT SLEEP ON RASCAL FLATS... I LOVE THEM...

  • jazi65

    I remember when she first started in the business with that itty bitty afro & here we are 25yrs later & she's one of the most successful black women of our time. She has truly been blessed & I'll continue to wish her success.

    :offtopic:

    Is it true that Bey's "so called" epic performance was a carbon copy of a 2010 version by Lorella Cuccarini :blink:

  • ryand91

    I'm glad the Oprah show is over, said, and done. Because it was obviously black women were not even apart of her demographic. Her schtick got old to me really quick, I can probably count on one hand the times I've been able to watch a whole episode. It was just that uninteresting to me.

    That said, I still wish her best with her future endeavors although I heard her network is on the edge of failure.

  • WUTWUZMISSIN!

    lexdiamonz says:

    @wutwuz girl that sister don’t play that is why her screen name is INTENSE…. LOL
    -------------------------
    I know!!! I mean ALL CAPS...NO BREAKS, CORRECT ENGLISH, TOPPED OFF WITH A FEW FUK YOU'S AND GO TO HELL'S... she serious...
    *note to self... don't piss intense off... PERIOD* :no:

  • Dawn Sheen

    Oprah, just like Sandra, and others are just simple reminders of how easily you can get caught up if you lack the power to make your own decisions and think for yourself.

    I've never idolized anyone

    While it is good to have Oprah's Sandra's in the world it is always important to know who you are, where you've been and where you are going.

    Celebrity fades but knowledge of self should not.

  • Fayla

    DO NOT SLEEP ON RASCAL FLATS… I LOVE THEM

    __________________

    no doubt, he tore it UP! I've seen them perfom before but he was in rare form yesterday :yes:

  • MUNCHOSGIRL

    Same ole shyt, just a different day!

  • http://twitter.com/_imOther_ Mamacita

    "no shade to anyone on this post but for real do we really care about these celebs??? except to talk shyt about them"

    See this is the problem. If only "talking shyt about them" brings you some sort of entertainment and gratification then you, ma'am, are the one with the issue, not Oprah.

  • speakinmymind

    INTEEEEEEEEEEEEEENNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSE MOCHA!!!

    :bow: :applause:

  • Fayla

    Celebrity fades but knowledge of self should not.

    _____________________

    :applause:

  • intensemocha

    YEAH AND I'M CERTAIN THAT ALL OF YOU ONLY WORK FOR BLACK OWNES BUSINESSES, AND SHOP AT BLACK OWNED GROCERY STORES, AND PURCHASE YOUR WEAVE AND GET YOUR NAILS DONE AT BLACK OWNED BUSINESSES RIGHT???

    GET OFF YOUR HIGH HORSE AND CUT THE BULLSHIAT!!!!!! FAKE ARSES, IT'S NOT A BLACK OR WHITE THING, IT'S A GREEN THING!

    AND OPRAH IS NOT BEING ANY LESS LOYAL TO HER RACE THAN ANY OF YOU-WHEN YOU GO TO YOUR JOB & CONDUCT BUSINESS WITH WHOMEVER YOU CHOOSE DESPITE THEIR RACE

    LAST I CHECKED SHE EMPLOYED BLACKS, HER AUDIENCE MEMBERS ARE BLACK ALSO, HER GUESTS ARE BLACK, AND WHEN SHE GIVES OUT EXPENSIVE TRIPS AND PRIZES BLACKS ARE ALSO THE RECIPIENTS

    THE HOUSE NEGROES ARE ALL OF YOU WHO OBVIOUSLY EXPECT EVERY OTHER BLACK PERSON TO STAY IN THE HOUSE ON THE PLANTATION WITH YOU-THOSE DAYS ARE OVER AND IF WE WANT PEOPLE TO STOP BEING RACIST WHEN NEED TO START WITH OURSELVES FIRST!!!!

  • http://sandrarose.com Sandra Rose

    Liyah74 says:

    I have had enough of Beyonce. What’s up with that sound? Is this the type of music we are putting out there now? Her stans need to be ashamed of themselves for supporting this type of music.
    ___________________

    Excellent observation! :clap: Are you new here? :)

  • free

    lex, i partially agree. however, i don't understnad the whole concept of "aligning" with black people. black people are saying the same thing about our president. what does "aligning with black people" mean and why is it necessary?

    oprah found her most supportive audience and cultivated them by keeping their attention through various and sundry means. it's a HUGE accomplishment to do that over 25 years with ANY audience. that's really all it is at the end of the day. you lose your audience, you lose your show.

  • kee kee

    what we fail to realize in all this is that oprah's show is Purely for Entertainment Purposes. I am a fan of Oprah, I've learned a few things from her and narcissictic (sp) or not as a woman of color I celebrate her success. To me her show does not appeal to YT people, her target audience is middle class - well to do people regardless of color. As her time on her talk show ends, I think the good has outweighed the bad. I love her relationship with Gayle and how she was loyal to this woman and brought her right along with her. That speaks volumes to me about her character. Poot who she's had on her show!

  • free

    Fayla says: I tried to watch Mo’Nique’s show, couldn’t gett into it (her shuck & jive man irks me) & my work schedule doesn’t allow me to watch Wendy but when I have it’s ok, no big deal for me. Where are you going with ur line of questioning?

    ********************************

    it was rhetorical to everyone just to make a point that monique will not be on the air 20 years from now and wendy has gone from urban (on the radio) to white in her time slot.

  • BlackBeauti

    When will Beyonce retire these costumes exposing her camel toe? People bash Rihanna etc for her skinny outfits Gets Beyonce who is 7 years older get away with it....:rolleyes:

  • Dawn Sheen

    intensemocha says:

    YEAH AND I’M CERTAIN THAT ALL OF YOU ONLY WORK FOR BLACK OWNES BUSINESSES, AND SHOP AT BLACK OWNED GROCERY STORES, AND PURCHASE YOUR WEAVE AND GET YOUR NAILS DONE AT BLACK OWNED BUSINESSES RIGHT???

    _________

    Let the record state, I have a afro... I picks it with my afro pick with the fist at the end. I buy all my penny candy from black owend stores as they are the only ones who know the value in a fresh chico stix, boston baked bean or johnny apple seed.

    My manicurist is black, I wouldn't dare let the yangs mess up my natural nails

  • intensemocha

    See this is the problem. If only “talking shyt about them” brings you some sort of entertainment and gratification then you, ma’am, are the one with the issue

    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

    BOO I'M DOING THE SAME ISH YOU DOING-BUMPING MY GUMZ LIKE THE REST OF US ON THIS BLOG, PASSING TIME....DON'T GET EMOTIONS CONFUSED WITH CAPS

    IT'S JUST MY STYLE AND I REALLY DON'T GIVE TWO SHIATS ABOUT WHAT YOU THINK YA DIG, IT'S A BLOG, I'M DOIN ME, DO U- YA DIG??? OR YOU CAN SIT AND SPIN WITH THE REST OF THE SILLY, SIMPLE, ENVIOUS TRICKS, THE CHOICE IS YOURS, I'M EQUAL OPPORTUNITY I DON'T GIVE A FUG WHO YOU ARE I'LL SERVE YOU YOUR ARSE ON A PLATTER

  • Feline Feminine

    My opinion of Oprah is somewhat complex. For years I was on her team hard, and had issues with folks who pointed out her tendency to cater to white America. But, over time I started to see areas that she missed opportunities to cater MORE to the black community. Sure she doesn’t owe us anything but it would have been nice if she had more interest in using her position to further catapult her own people. I don’t blame her for doing whatever brings in the money, but it would have been nice to see her do more in other areas…but here’s the thing, her work is not necessarily done just because her talk show is ending. She’s not dead, and yes it is up to ALL of us to help US progress. But she is one of the most powerful people in the world, so again, it would be NICE to see her do things for the black community and the black cause that she did not (or could not) do during the run of her show…

  • http://twitter.com/_imOther_ Mamacita

    intensemocha says:

    YEAH AND I’M CERTAIN THAT ALL OF YOU ONLY WORK FOR BLACK OWNES BUSINESSES, AND SHOP AT BLACK OWNED GROCERY STORES, AND PURCHASE YOUR WEAVE AND GET YOUR NAILS DONE AT BLACK OWNED BUSINESSES RIGHT???

    GET OFF YOUR HIGH HORSE AND CUT THE BULLSHIAT!!!!!! FAKE ARSES, IT’S NOT A BLACK OR WHITE THING, IT’S A GREEN THING!

    AND OPRAH IS NOT BEING ANY LESS LOYAL TO HER RACE THAN ANY OF YOU-WHEN YOU GO TO YOUR JOB & CONDUCT BUSINESS WITH WHOMEVER YOU CHOOSE DESPITE THEIR RACE

    LAST I CHECKED SHE EMPLOYED BLACKS, HER AUDIENCE MEMBERS ARE BLACK ALSO, HER GUESTS ARE BLACK, AND WHEN SHE GIVES OUT EXPENSIVE TRIPS AND PRIZES BLACKS ARE ALSO THE RECIPIENTS

    THE HOUSE NEGROES ARE ALL OF YOU WHO OBVIOUSLY EXPECT EVERY OTHER BLACK PERSON TO STAY IN THE HOUSE ON THE PLANTATION WITH YOU-THOSE DAYS ARE OVER AND IF WE WANT PEOPLE TO STOP BEING RACIST WHEN NEED TO START WITH OURSELVES FIRST!!!!

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    :cosign: :preach: :youdidthatsh*t:

  • Daisy

    #teamOprah :cheer: I am very PRO black and I still LOVE me some Oprah. I have watched from day one I grew up watching her. She did her show/career the way she saw fit sometimes that catered to blacks other times not so much. She is still a living legend all the same and I will miss her :sad: :cry: Oprah knows she is a colored girl from Miss. She knows her roots and history so she is good w/me!

    Patti shut it DOWN yesterday I wish she was on longer!! My sister loves her some Rascal Flats. Halle was flawless yesterday. I am ready to see my girl Akeys today. I skipped Beys performance :lol:

  • ryand91

    Don't get me wrong, I'm a proud of Oprah she has come along and beat all the odds. But my issues are more with her as person. She is quite quick to shun her mother. For somebody who always speaks of forgiveness and reconciliation, why does she seemingly hold such a grudge against her own mother. I am just not a fan of her show, I feel it lost it's integrity a long time ago and she should have retired quite some time ago,

  • http://twitter.com/_imOther_ Mamacita

    @INTENSE

    re: #40 I wan't referring to you. I was referring to another poster and their comment. Which is why I quoted it before I typed my comment. :shrug:

  • MsOnederful

    Liyah74 says:

    I have had enough of Beyonce. What’s up with that sound? Is this the type of music we are putting out there now? Her stans need to be ashamed of themselves for supporting this type of music.

    I know everyone has their own opinion of bey's music. I just would like to just understand though from you nay sayer's what EXACTLY do you want BEY to put out music wise? MJB type Ballads? What do you expect from her; her single may not be the best but i bet it pops at clubs all over the United States. What is this "TYPE" of music? I don't hear any auto tune on run the girls track? I know you guys have your opinion and so do I. I just don't get this "bad music" label bey keeps getting. She's the greatest performer of our Generation thus far and yes thats my opinion and i am sure many will agree that is really FACT! jus saying.

  • Feline Feminine

    @Mama

    re: #40 I wan’t referring to you. I was referring to another poster and their comment. Which is why I quoted it before I typed my comment.

    ___

    Yeah, I saw that and wanted to duck…folks is going hard in here! Lol….

  • intensemocha

    WELL I A-POL-A-LIE THEN @ MAMACITA

  • Fayla

    it was rhetorical to everyone just to make a point that monique will not be on the air 20 years from now and wendy has gone from urban (on the radio) to white in her time slot.
    ____________

    gotcha..Wendy's show is very yt & focuses too much on reality shows & the like for my taste..as for Monique, honestly I'm surprised her show is still on bc I don't know anyone who watches it :shrug:

  • ThatsNic2u

    I must admit I was a die-hard Oprah fan, but then I got over it, but then I started watching her all over again. I love what she does, it's her show and she can do what she wants with it. If I had my own show, I would do the same. I watch Wendy and Monique, and really Wedny is the only one that has a very diverse audience...good for her. Oprah's reign of tv talk show host has ended...wonder who is going to step up next.

  • Feline Feminine

    Oprah’s reign of tv talk show host has ended…wonder who is going to step up next.

    __

    I think Tyra had plans to take the spot but I don't think that's working out too well for her... :shrugs:

  • http://youtu.be/8A2Mfu0Yc5Q chibytex aka lil red riding hood

    lexdiamonz says:

    who the hell listens to oprah she can’t even control her own BMI …. LOL….and am i the only one disappointed in the FLOTUS “endorsing” Beyaki… now THAT is what we want to teach our daughters … shake your azz, don’t finish school, marry a ex-drug dealer and you will BE ON TOP OF THE WORLD making paper…. aww hell i digress that IS THE FORUMLA for success………
    ___________________________________________
    No the first lady respects all her the hard work and dedication she puts into her JOB!!! Everything you are hating on has to do with Bey's PERSONAL LIFE!!! Bey is at the top of her game STEADY for 15 years. How can you NOT honor that.....Black women love to tear each other down.....

  • intensemocha

    NO FOR REAL MAMACITA, MY BAD, JUST GOT CAUGHT UP IN THROWING GRENADES, I FORGOT WHO I WAS AIMING AT

    NOBODY IN PARTICULAR, JUST BULLSHYTN FOR THE SAKE OF BULLSHYTN IT'S TUESDAY-LOL

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EfxTsn3fvqw Tink Tink

    If Al was to hear yall talking bullsh!t bout his OPRAH, there will really be some grenades being thrown.....AL if you read this I would go for RYAN91 first

  • http://twitter.com/_imOther_ Mamacita

    @Fe Fe :lol: I know right! She was about to give me them hands and I ain't even do nothin. Hmph!

    @Intense :lol:

  • Fayla

    ryand91 says:

    Don’t get me wrong, I’m a proud of Oprah she has come along and beat all the odds. But my issues are more with her as person. She is quite quick to shun her mother. For somebody who always speaks of forgiveness and reconciliation, why does she seemingly hold such a grudge against her own mother. I am just not a fan of her show, I feel it lost it’s integrity a long time ago and she should have retired quite some time ago,
    ________________

    Oprah still takes care of her mother financially, but from what I understand she was never a real mother to Oprah, she just birthed her & didn't want her. Shipped her off to her father when she was a young girl. Forgivess doesn't mean u have to allow that person full access or access at all in ur life. I think if she didn't care about her mother at all she wouldn't still finance her, but I can't be mad at Oprah for trying to protect herself from someone who hurt her deeply even it is her mother. Everybody is not blessed to have a good Mom ya know?

  • FoxE

    ryand91 says:

    Don’t get me wrong, I’m a proud of Oprah she has come along and beat all the odds. But my issues are more with her as person. She is quite quick to shun her mother. For somebody who always speaks of forgiveness and reconciliation, why does she seemingly hold such a grudge against her own mother. I am just not a fan of her show, I feel it lost it’s integrity a long time ago and she should have retired quite some time ago,
    ________________________

    But why does her personal life decisions bother you? Forgiveness doesn't mean you have to let the person back into your circle...Just means that you no longer allow the hate/resentment/anger control you anymore :shrugs:

    Oh yea. Morning folks!! :yawn:

  • http://pearlswindow.com Carrington

    lexdiamonz says:

    I had a talk with a Swedish professer who ASSURED me the KEY reason to Oprah’s success is she chose NOT to align herself with black people therefore propelling her to the status she is …. i was offended at first but then i realized HE WAS RIGHT because house niggas will always support and endorse people who have nothing to do with him and anytime someone points out issues or flaws in that person they will instantly say somebody is HATING.
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
    I was prepared to make this point, but you was right when you said what you said. Is there any doubt that Sandra would run the NEGATIVE post about Oprah and would NEVER be caught running anything positive? I believe the positive Oprah's done far outweighs the negative. You can find negative in anything (including church), so what makes this "scathing" review any different, other than the fact that this is probably some white man trying to de-value what this black woman has accomplished - and Sandra is more than happy to help him do it?

    It's interesting that Obama and Oprah can't get a positive mention on Sandrarose and they're both "narcissist", yet the mf's who SHOULD get the negative press for being narcissist and for what THEY do to black America (read: T.I., T.I., & T.I. - she tries to make you believe that the sun don't shine until they wake up.

  • FoxE

    :lol: @ Tink Tink

  • MsOnederful

    Fayla says:

    it was rhetorical to everyone just to make a point that monique will not be on the air 20 years from now and wendy has gone from urban (on the radio) to white in her time slot.
    ____________
    gotcha..Wendy’s show is very yt & focuses too much on reality shows & the like for my taste..as for Monique, honestly I’m surprised her show is still on bc I don’t know anyone who watches it

    Wendy will be off the air in another 3 years if she does not change the coordination of her show. Its a train wreck. If they let her do some NON-CELEBRITY interview shows; i can see her maybe getting 10 years in.

  • ThatsNic2u

    @ Feline Feminine...not working for her @ all :no:
    she needs to stick to Top Model, although that doesn't have too much more
    life left.
    @ Fayla :cosign:

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sOnqjkJTMaA ALBoy

    :warning: WHO TALKING BAD ABOUT MY BABY! ryannnnnnnnn :shotfired:

  • http://pearlswindow.com Carrington

    FoxE says:

    But why does her personal life decisions bother you? Forgiveness doesn’t mean you have to let the person back into your circle…Just means that you no longer allow the hate/resentment/anger control you anymore
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~
    Right!?!? I forgave my abuser, but that doesn't mean I have to buy that mother f*cker a Christmas gift and be on his team when we play spades at family gatherings.

    Forgiveness means allowing yourself to move forward, not that you have to let someone continue to kill your spirit. Nobody knows Oprah or her mother - how can you say with certainty what kind of woman this lady is? She could be the type of woman NOBODY would want to be around. That's like someone telling you how wrong YOU are for not "forgiving" the people who wronged you.

    If she was abused, how dare WE judge her for dealing with it in her own way.

  • kee kee

    I don't get why if you're not a fan of someone then you're a hater. I'm not a BeYaki fan at all. She's an entertainer. NOt an singer (ala Janet Jackson) and has been quite successful at it. I recognize her success but can't stand her music. Here's the difference for me. Ledisi's Pieces of me vs Girls Run This World...Same message, however Ledisi's delivery both lyrically and vocally is much better HANDS DOWN. I guess I just like grown up music. BeYAWNce's warbling KILLS MY EAR DRUMS.

  • http://youtu.be/8A2Mfu0Yc5Q chibytex aka lil red riding hood

    Oprah still takes care of her mother financially, but from what I understand she was never a real mother to Oprah, she just birthed her & didn’t want her. Shipped her off to her father when she was a young girl. Forgivess doesn’t mean u have to allow that person full access or access at all in ur life. I think if she didn’t care about her mother at all she wouldn’t still finance her, but I can’t be mad at Oprah for trying to protect herself from someone who hurt her deeply even it is her mother. Everybody is not blessed to have a good Mom ya know?
    ____________________________________________
    :applause:
    I dont have the best relationship with my own mother. I have forgiven her for the things she's done to me growing up, but we aint going shopping together or hanging out....I have a stepmom to do all that with....

    People need to understand that respect is earned. Just cause you gave birth doesn't mean one deserves to be a mother...Oprah is taking care of her mother like she's suppose to. Oprah mother didnt even tell her she had another sister living less than 3 hours away from her in Milwaukee...

    forgiveness does NOT mean being friends again with somebody...it only means you've made peace with that person and yourself...

  • http://chokolatemilk.blogspot.com Choco aka Hippie

    I used to be a fan of Oprah back when she first started and I applaud what she has done for others however Im not a fan any longer for the very reasons the author points out!

  • speakinmymind

    Tink Tink says:
    If Al was to hear yall talking bullsh!t bout his OPRAH, there will really be some grenades being thrown…..AL if you read this I would go for RYAN91 first
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    messsssaaaaaaaaaaaaaayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy!! and i lubs it! :lol:

  • http://youtu.be/8A2Mfu0Yc5Q chibytex aka lil red riding hood

    NOt an singer (ala Janet Jackson) and has been quite successful at it. I recognize her success but can’t stand her music.
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    :nono:
    Janet CANNOT sing.....she can harmonize good, and she can hold a note...but really sing....NOT!!!

  • http://twitter.com/_imOther_ Mamacita

    @Kee Kee I doon't think you're the one being labeled a hater. It's moreso the people who don't like her and have to pick at every little thing. One of her eyebrows is higher than the other, Her weave is dry, she bleaches her skin, she's too fat, she's too skinny. It's those comments that are considered hating.

    If you don't like her that's fine. Everyone has their opinions and preferences but once people start to attack EVERYTHING a person does just because they don't "like" them that's what makes them a hater.

    I :heart: Ledisi and Beyonce. They both have strong vocals to me.

  • http://chokolatemilk.blogspot.com Choco aka Hippie

    BeYAWNce’s warbling KILLS MY EAR DRUMS
    _______________________
    :cosign: I can't get past the first hook of Girls Run the World before my face is turned up and I'm changing my radio station and I'm not a hater becuz I thinks she's pretty and has enough talent to make her famous just not a fan

  • kee kee

    @ Chibytex I meant that to show the similarties between Janet and BeYaki.. Neither of them can sing (beyance yells more than sings to me) but give a good performance.

  • speakinmymind

    how do we even know she has NOTHING to do with her mother. we do not have 24 hour all access to these people's personal lives and relationships, only what the media spins and twists to sell a story. i would hate to be a celeb trying to make a living doing something i love and constantly having people pick apart every single damn fiber of my being on a 24 hour basis.

  • http://youtu.be/8A2Mfu0Yc5Q chibytex aka lil red riding hood

    If you don’t like her that’s fine. Everyone has their opinions and preferences but once people start to attack EVERYTHING a person does just because they don’t “like” them that’s what makes them a hater.
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    :yes:

  • http://www.twitter.com/cocoabana Cocoabana

    I'm mad DJ Lance is in her gravi though...

    OAN, I really enjoyed reading the comments in this post. When y'all are serious and having a debate, I always get schooled.

    <----------------YOUNGIN.

  • http://youtu.be/8A2Mfu0Yc5Q chibytex aka lil red riding hood

    kee says:

    @ Chibytex I meant that to show the similarties between Janet and BeYaki.. Neither of them can sing (beyance yells more than sings to me) but give a good performance.
    _________________________________
    Bey can sing.....when she wants to.....
    But we can agree to disagree...

  • http://chokolatemilk.blogspot.com Choco aka Hippie

    @Mama
    But you know Bey has the most dryest weave you must admit to that

  • kee kee

    forgiveness does NOT mean being friends again with somebody…it only means you’ve made peace with that person and yourself…:applause:

  • Aryen

    I was thinking the samething it cocoabana
    Im a long time lurker so reading yalls comments kind of
    gives me a broader perspective of issues that involve me :wink:

  • Fayla

    I dont have the best relationship with my own mother. I have forgiven her for the things she’s done to me growing up, but we aint going shopping together or hanging out….I have a stepmom to do all that with….

    People need to understand that respect is earned. Just cause you gave birth doesn’t mean one deserves to be a mother…Oprah is taking care of her mother like she’s suppose to. Oprah mother didnt even tell her she had another sister living less than 3 hours away from her in Milwaukee…

    forgiveness does NOT mean being friends again with somebody…it only means you’ve made peace with that person and yourself…
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    :preach:

    some of the best women I know are not mothers (by choice or by chance) but are nurturing, loving, & motherly..on the other hand I think we all know at least one female that has 50-11 kids & not a mothering bone in her body. just bc u have the ability to have kids, doesn't make u qualified to be good at raising them :no:

  • http://youtu.be/8A2Mfu0Yc5Q chibytex aka lil red riding hood

    @Ccoco
    My daughter LOVES Yo Gabba Gabba!! I have to watch it at least 5 times a day....

  • http://youtu.be/8A2Mfu0Yc5Q chibytex aka lil red riding hood

    Choco aka Hippie says:

    @Mama
    But you know Bey has the most dryest weave you must admit to that
    ________________________________
    Choco dont get cut up in here!! :karate:

  • flsun99

    Fayla says:

    as for Oprah, whatever she’s done i think it’s been more good than bad (regarding her show) my opinion of her has changed over the years no doubt, but at the end of the day if nothing else she has shown what’s really possible for us as black women in this country. the woman literally came from nothing to be one of the most powerful women in the world. #narcissist&all
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    :cosign:

  • steph L

    All this talk about Oprah not supporting blacks, last I heard she created a school in a black village in Africa. In addition, she's given to numerous schools in under priviledge areas in Chicago...where most of the students are black. She made a 1 million donation to Spelman, where the females students are black, in addition to Morehouse. Just because you don't see everything she contributes, doesn't mean she's only giving to a certain race...people wake the f*ck up! Do you...what the hell have you done for anyone lately? Stop worrying about other folks finances and how they spend their money...just figure out how you can be productive in this world. Lastly, didn't she support the biggest black we all know right about now...Barack Obama! :cuss:

  • flsun99

    steph L says:

    All this talk about Oprah not supporting blacks, last I heard she created a school in a black village in Africa. In addition, she’s given to numerous schools in under priviledge areas in Chicago…where most of the students are black. She made a 1 million donation to Spelman, where the females students are black, in addition to Morehouse. Just because you don’t see everything she contributes, doesn’t mean she’s only giving to a certain race…people wake the f*ck up! Do you…what the hell have you done for anyone lately? Stop worrying about other folks finances and how they spend their money…just figure out how you can be productive in this world. Lastly, didn’t she support the biggest black we all know right about now…Barack Obama!
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    :preach:

  • http://twitter.com/_imOther_ Mamacita

    @Choco lol Honestly, I rarely ever see anything wrong with her hair. It can be a little dry sometimes but to me It looks more natural to me than these shiny silky weaves that aren't believe able at all. I think she buys hair to match her own grade of hair.

  • lexdiamonz

    chibytex aka lil red riding hood says:

    lexdiamonz says:

    who the hell listens to oprah she can’t even control her own BMI …. LOL….and am i the only one disappointed in the FLOTUS “endorsing” Beyaki… now THAT is what we want to teach our daughters … shake your azz, don’t finish school, marry a ex-drug dealer and you will BE ON TOP OF THE WORLD making paper…. aww hell i digress that IS THE FORUMLA for success………
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    No the first lady respects all her the hard work and dedication she puts into her JOB!!! Everything you are hating on has to do with Bey’s PERSONAL LIFE!!! Bey is at the top of her game STEADY for 15 years. How can you NOT honor that…..Black women love to tear each other down…..

    CHILD PLEASE what HARD WORK GTFOHWTBS !!!! black women are not tearing each other down everytime someone makes a statement about another chick we get called haters,and yes i do shop and support "pro-black" when i can but why would i support something i dont agree with??? i dont eat watermelon either is that hating LOL!!!! everytime someone says something about you alls "Bejesus" you peoples get your panties in a bunch chill it is Tuesday i can state my opinion we shall "agree to disagree"

  • http://chokolatemilk.blogspot.com Choco aka Hippie

    Chiby it's very true I mean everytime you see her weave it looks un healthy and straw like!

  • Lady_L

    lexdiamonz says:

    am i the only one disappointed in the FLOTUS “endorsing” Beyaki… now THAT is what we want to teach our daughters … shake your azz, don’t finish school, marry a ex-drug dealer and you will BE ON TOP OF THE WORLD making paper…. aww hell i digress that IS THE FORUMLA for success………
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    Let's see how many entertainer's are married to ex drug dealers.....if your going to say this about Bey than you need to add a couple of more names to the list..I'll start with Tiny....

  • http://chokolatemilk.blogspot.com Choco aka Hippie

    @Mama
    Okay :lol: you may have a point of her buying to match her natural hair I just wish it didn't look like her weave had a fight with a crow and his feet - Everytime she reminds of that old azz movie the birds when the birds was fighting in that ladies hair :lol:

  • http://chokolatemilk.blogspot.com Choco aka Hippie

    list..I’ll start with Tiny….
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    :lol:

  • lexdiamonz

    @lady-L now you KNOW Tiny reads SRose daily ..... i can't talk about HER Sandra got my registration info LOL

  • Lady_L

    I just never understood how people can hate someone thye don't even know..never had a conversation with etc.. is that really possible?? I mean really....

  • http://twitter.com/_imOther_ Mamacita

    @choco :lol:

  • Lady_L

    lexdiamonz says:

    @lady-L now you KNOW Tiny reads SRose daily ….. i can’t talk about HER Sandra got my registration info LOL

    -----------------------------------------
    :rofl:

    mine too...but I just felt like "going there"....LOL!! I am a Bey fan but I respect you or anyone else opinion...I'm one of those we can agree to disagree type people and not get my panties all in a bunch about it....
    :)

  • http://youtu.be/8A2Mfu0Yc5Q chibytex aka lil red riding hood

    Let’s see how many entertainer’s are married to ex drug dealers…..if your going to say this about Bey than you need to add a couple of more names to the list..I’ll start with Tiny….
    _____________________________________
    And POW!!!!!!!

    How many years ago has it been since Jay-z sold drugs...and he wasnt selling drugs when they met...so that point in null and void.... Jay-z took his street business and turned it into a legal business...as far as her not getting a diploma....oh well she can always go back to school and get that...

    I cant get down when people diss people for stupid chit....

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X_hqwXZtBVc LUSCIOUS LOLITA AKA SUGA WALLS

    :dead: at "Bejeesus"

  • liyah623

    Sandra I have to absolutely disagree with you. I grew up in Southern Africa most middle aged women with access to a tv or satellite back in Africa watch oprah. And they love her. I think its the media culture to build up someone and then turn around and cut them down In a culture full of reality tv and crappy shows her program is one of the few that has been able to highlight some of the stories that impact Women across the world. One of such programs was the one show where they went to Congo to interview and bring to light the rape of Congolese media is one of the more positive programs that you find on tv. For all the shows she has covered I find 10 times more positive things than negative. And by the way anything that Rupert Murdoch and minions of rag news print and media has to say is always a back hand slap at Black people. Which is why I am not surprised about what they print about her. Go on Oprah there are women out in rest of the world who appreciate the fact that often you have brought to light and attention some of their issues. Buildig schools, charity donations and being a champion to girls who out there need to believe that dreams can come true

  • metnwt

    @carrington says - "It’s interesting that Obama and Oprah can’t get a positive mention on Sandrarose and they’re both “narcissist”, yet the mf’s who SHOULD get the negative press for being narcissist and for what THEY do to black America (read: T.I., T.I., & T.I. – she tries to make you believe that the sun don’t shine until they wake up."

    :applause: Thank you carrington! Sandra tries to push gutter rats like Tiny and her so called nail salon down our throats but throws shade at the Pres and the Big O. Two people who have made hella contributions in our society! Luckely we are smart enough to not be fooled by this nonsense!

  • yallcrazy

    Shoot, how many regular folks are married to "former drug dealers"?!?!
    :shrug:

    IJS

  • Yardgirl

    If you don’t like her that’s fine. Everyone has their opinions and preferences but once people start to attack EVERYTHING a person does just because they don’t “like” them that’s what makes them a hater.
    ===============================================================
    :thumbsup:

    I like Oprah. She had a show recently where she talked about her early life and to see the woman that she is today, I have to respect where she has taken her life. Without her hard work and determination, she could have ended up much differently and for that she gets my respect.

  • liyah623

    oh wow should have proof read my comment*** sorry guys

  • MsOnederful

    kee kee says:

    I don’t get why if you’re not a fan of someone then you’re a hater. I’m not a BeYaki fan at all. She’s an entertainer. NOt an singer (ala Janet Jackson) and has been quite successful at it. I recognize her success but can’t stand her music. Here’s the difference for me. Ledisi’s Pieces of me vs Girls Run This World…Same message, however Ledisi’s delivery both lyrically and vocally is much better HANDS DOWN. I guess I just like grown up music. BeYAWNce’s warbling KILLS MY EAR DRUMS.

    Beyonce sings FATISI under the rug on her first album Dangerously in Love. Thank you very much. You stab with BeYAWNce' We stab back with FATISI. mUAHZZZZ

  • http://youtu.be/8A2Mfu0Yc5Q chibytex aka lil red riding hood

    I'm still trying to figure out what "negative' things has Oprah done....

    So what if she caters to middle America...those are the people that SUPPORT her? Ghetto gutter hoodrats are to unintelligent to even understand the types of shows she has. Her shows are about life, growing, being healthy, having a stable marriage, bringing MALE sexually abuse to the forefront (which I think was one of her BIGGEST shows ever...how is any of these things negative....

    People be looking for bullchit....

  • Lady_L

    yallcrazy says:

    Shoot, how many regular folks are married to “former drug dealers”?!?!

    ---------------------------------------------------------------
    Someone in my family is, and he actually turned his life around completely, went to college holds two degree's (Master) and has his own business...

  • Long Time Lurker

    :blink:

  • MsOnederful

    I would love to fight with Choco but just can't because when i first Joined SR she showed me so much love.... Love you choco even though you dont care for Bey 2 tough.

  • KrayZKat

    ...i don’t understand the whole concept of “aligning” with black people. black people are saying the same thing about our president. what does “aligning with black people” mean and why is it necessary?
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
    I know you weren't talking to me, but I had to chime in on this one. The reason it's necessary for black people to align with other blacks is because "united we stand, divided we fall." Now, if you aren't interested in building the black community, then feel free to ignore my remaining comments, but if you are, then may I suggest you take a look at every other ethnicity and culture. Asians, Latinos, Jews, etc., see the importance of aligning themselves with their own because it builds power, especially economic power. When you have that, you can call the shots. Many blacks are so busy buying into everyone else's stock, that we don't own ish. How can we, who spend billions of dollars on hair care products, not own the majority of hair care businesses? For the most part, the Asians have that on lock down. Why? Because they wanna make money, and usually that money goes back into building their communities. Latinos usually send their money home to family. Why do you think every other ethnicity has their own community with their own businesses in their own languages? Black people have systematically been divided, which has caused issues with our communities to this very day. Remember Oklahoma's Black Wall Street? If not, take a look and that should answer your question. Marcus Garvey talked about us building our own people up as well. Just because we support other blacks, doesn't mean we are anti everyone else.

    As far as the president, black people were on only ones hollering about, "He's not the president of black America; he's the president of America." Well, women, Latinos, gays/lesbians, etc. didn't have a problem approaching our president about what his plans were for their particular agenda. Many blacks were the only ones that though we had no right to ask of our president. It almost seems as though we are trying to prove something to others to get their approval.

    This is the mental illness that has plagued our community to the point where we are so self-loathing.

    JMO.

  • Lady_L

    chibytex aka lil red riding hood says:

    I’m still trying to figure out what “negative’ things has Oprah done….

    So what if she caters to middle America…those are the people that SUPPORT her? Ghetto gutter hoodrats are to unintelligent to even understand the types of shows she has. Her shows are about life, growing, being healthy, having a stable marriage, bringing MALE sexually abuse to the forefront (which I think was one of her BIGGEST shows ever…how is any of these things negative….

    People be looking for bullchit….

  • KrayZKat

    On topic: I love me some Oprah Winfrey. I am so proud of this sista who came up from nothing, NOTHING, to build an empire like none other. Oprah is a brand, just like Michael Jackson was. There aren't too many people like that today. She has truly touched the world, and lives have been changed because of this woman.

    I'm not saying I always watched every episode of her show, but this woman, I believe, has a calling. When you reach this type of success, there will always be people who will hate you.

    I don't worship Oprah (I worship no man), but I give credit where credit is due, and credit is due to Ms. O! She will be missed by me.

  • http://chokolatemilk.blogspot.com Choco aka Hippie

    I would love to fight with Choco but just can’t because when i first Joined SR she showed me so much love…. Love you choco even though you dont care for Bey 2 tough.
    ____________________
    :lol: The truth is you agree with me about her hair :rofl: :hugs:

  • Feline Feminine

    I know you weren’t talking to me, but I had to chime in on this one. The reason it’s necessary for black people to align with other blacks is because “united we stand, divided we fall.” Now, if you aren’t interested in building the black community, then feel free to ignore my remaining comments, but if you are, then may I suggest you take a look at every other ethnicity and culture. Asians, Latinos, Jews, etc., see the importance of aligning themselves with their own because it builds power, especially economic power. When you have that, you can call the shots. Many blacks are so busy buying into everyone else’s stock, that we don’t own ish. How can we, who spend billions of dollars on hair care products, not own the majority of hair care businesses? For the most part, the Asians have that on lock down. Why? Because they wanna make money, and usually that money goes back into building their communities. Latinos usually send their money home to family. Why do you think every other ethnicity has their own community with their own businesses in their own languages? Black people have systematically been divided, which has caused issues with our communities to this very day. Remember Oklahoma’s Black Wall Street? If not, take a look and that should answer your question. Marcus Garvey talked about us building our own people up as well. Just because we support other blacks, doesn’t mean we are anti everyone else.
    As far as the president, black people were on only ones hollering about, “He’s not the president of black America; he’s the president of America.” Well, women, Latinos, gays/lesbians, etc. didn’t have a problem approaching our president about what his plans were for their particular agenda. Many blacks were the only ones that though we had no right to ask of our president. It almost seems as though we are trying to prove something to others to get their approval.
    This is the mental illness that has plagued our community to the point where we are so self-loathing.
    JMO.
    :applause:

  • MsOnederful

    Choco aka Hippie says:

    I would love to fight with Choco but just can’t because when i first Joined SR she showed me so much love…. Love you choco even though you dont care for Bey 2 tough.
    ____________________
    The truth is you agree with me about her hair

    The ONLY thing; but you know the reason for messy crazy hair is because this is entertainment. She can't rock a doobie all the time :( although i would prefer her 2. That and a few up-do's from time to time ;)

  • http://youtu.be/8A2Mfu0Yc5Q chibytex aka lil red riding hood

    Many blacks were the only ones that though we had no right to ask of our president. It almost seems as though we are trying to prove something to others to get their approval.
    _________________________________________
    Because "us

  • yallcrazy

    @LadyL, that's exactly what I'm saying :yes:

    Little Red Riding Hood(yes, I am calling you that today), you and that gravi -----------------> :kona:

  • yallcrazy

    Hey Fi :waves:

  • http://youtu.be/8A2Mfu0Yc5Q chibytex aka lil red riding hood

    Many blacks were the only ones that though we had no right to ask of our president. It almost seems as though we are trying to prove something to others to get their approval.
    _______________________________________
    Beacause "us" creating an agenda for him would have been political suicide....the white folks would have been saying that he's only trying to help "us" Other races have the luxury of asking things that we cant.....and everything that he is trying to do is to help "us" anyway...getting better education, getting us to eat right and exercise, helping put military families, passing healthcare are ALL BLACK ISSUES too....

    He cant pass an agenda telling Keshia to stop having 32 children with jailbait ass men. He cant pass an agenda to keep lil Pookie from selling dope on the corner....WTF is a black agenda anyway....

  • http://chokolatemilk.blogspot.com Choco aka Hippie

    @Ms
    I know it also goes with her rocker look :thumbsup:

  • http://youtu.be/8A2Mfu0Yc5Q chibytex aka lil red riding hood

    @Ya'll
    that's for the big Bad Wolf who tried to run me outta here!!! LOL!

  • Feline Feminine

    ‘sup yall!

  • yallcrazy

    @LRRH, I gotcha :thumbsup: But I think she ran herself off here after she called herself a whore or something.....

    @Choco, I left you a message ----> over there :lol: in that last post.

  • http://chokolatemilk.blogspot.com Choco aka Hippie

    @Yall I got it I responded - another rant I have spaghettios for lunch today and I don't want this chit - goes to Microwave brb

  • yallcrazy

    He cant pass an agenda telling Keshia to stop having 32 children with jailbait ass men. He cant pass an agenda to keep lil Pookie from selling dope on the corner
    __________________________________________________________________

    He can't pass an agenda stating:

    1. Teach your kids respect for their elders.

    2. Parents turn the fukcing tvs off and talk to your kids.

    3. Children should not be watching BET, MTV, etc.

    4. Don't sell your food stamps and go buy hair instead of investing for your child's future.

    ^^^^^ALL OF THESE THINGS ARE THINGS THAT HE CAN'T SAY...BUT WE CAN SURELY DO THEM..........WHEN PEOPLE KNOW BETTER THEY DO BETTER...

    *throws down the mic*

  • KrayZKat

    Beacause “us” creating an agenda for him would have been political suicide….the white folks would have been saying that he’s only trying to help “us” Other races have the luxury of asking things that we cant…..and everything that he is trying to do is to help “us” anyway…getting better education, getting us to eat right and exercise, helping put military families, passing healthcare are ALL BLACK ISSUES too….

    He cant pass an agenda telling Keshia to stop having 32 children with jailbait ass men. He cant pass an agenda to keep lil Pookie from selling dope on the corner….WTF is a black agenda anyway….
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
    Yes, they are all issues blacks are concerned about, but they are HUMAN ISSUES AS WELL, but that didn’t stop everyone else from his giving them a reason to vote for him.

    The fact that some black people believe that WE have no rights that others take for granted shows me how far behind we really are. Get out of the plantation! We are free! Quit giving a rat’s behind what white people think. This mentality will hold us back. That’s one black agenda to start with, and by your comment, it’s clear that we still have many issues to contend with.

    So, according to you, black people don’t have the same rights as other Americans when it comes to electing a president? We, the step-children of society, must be silenced in fear of what the white man is going to say? It’s 2011, and that mentality is what holds us back, and we aren’t even aware of it. You have us back on the plantation with that nonsense. It’s pathetic. All those things you mention also pertain to those special interests groups (not all of them are racial), but that didn’t stop them from saying, “President Obama, what is your opinion about gay marriage?” “What is your take on abortion rights?” Do you think these groups (especially the LGBT) community thought, “Oh, if we push the president on this issue, it might alienate homophobes from voting for him?” Better yet, did the president worry about how his stance on these issues would be taken by others? No, he didn’t.

    If you don’t know what black issues are, and you think it has to do with “Keshia having 32 babies by Pookie selling drugs on the corner, then I can’t help you because there are so many more issues. If you really wanna know, look it up.

    SMH. Peace!

  • http://www.facebook.com/home.php?#/profile.php?ref=profile&id=1335451522 therapist1911

    Oprah & Beyonce are humans. They are prone to make mistakes. However, they both have done so many positive things. However people CHOOSE to reflect on what they believe are the negative such as "she only concern with white women, oh she fake, she a narcissist or she married a drug dealer, she dropped out of high school blah blah blah.....

    These two women are the epitome of hard work, determination, preserverance. Are they flawed.....yes! Excuse them while they are HUMAN

  • IsaiahsMom

    lexdiamonz says:

    who the hell listens to oprah she can’t even control her own BMI …. LOL….and am i the only one disappointed in the FLOTUS “endorsing” Beyaki… now THAT is what we want to teach our daughters … shake your azz, don’t finish school, marry a ex-drug dealer and you will BE ON TOP OF THE WORLD making paper…. aww hell i digress that IS THE FORUMLA for success………
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    :preach:
    ***Runs to grab her MLK church fan so that she can start shouting and catching the spirt***

    No shade on Oprah (I'm proud of her, really). To be successful here in America you have to win over both the dominate culture (for status/prestige/$$$) and your own culture (keeping it real-ness).
    Beyawnce is getting on my nerves though.
    Stop listening to mainstream music back in the early 00s

  • kdillon

    People are always hypnotized by money and beauty, look how you cant say a word about Beyonce but you can talk about anyone else on this earth and God himself. There is more of a outrage for Beyonce than anything else. Beyonce is a liar, thief, makes bad music, and represents a whorish image... I dont like Oprah because she has driven so many women to new age theories and brought the I AM God theory to many. I was shocked when Oprah stated her success is due to Beyonce (wtf) You dont get to that level of fame or status without doing bad things behind closed doors.

  • laykeya

    I didn't hear it I'm just going of what @kdillon stated, but I can't believe Oprah said her success was because of Beyonce, that doesn't even make sense. Honestly I don't see Beyonce as an icon she cool and all but she's no Icon.

  • Smonae80

    So all successful people do really bad things behind closed doors,, Ok??? Bey & Oprah work hard 4 everything they've accomplished but one's a whore & the other is an occult leader of new aged theories that brain washes millions.. F*cking hilarious

  • Daisy

    All I am going to say is if HRC wld have won the election their would be a womens agenda. Clinton had somehwat of a "black agenda" as well. The President and Presidents past have always catered to women/jews/gays so why not blacks we have human issues as well but we have our issues as well say the unjust justtice system for one. I LOVE me some President Obama all the same though #justsaying

    :rofl: at Bey having strong vocals while I think she can sing she doesn't have strong vocals she hollas when she really thinks she is taking it to church

    SN I can't believe yall stayed on topic :coffee:

  • kdillon

    Thats why they call people sheeple, you look at them and are glamoured because of who they are and not looking past it. I stated Beyonce has an whorish image, I didnt say she is a whore... she represents selling sex and using sex as a weapon (who runs the world) why are the women dancing for men sexually and half naked while running the world? Yes, Oprah is into the Occult (hidden messages), review the list of her books for the bookclub.. many of the authors are new age teachers and a radio show host she uses on sirus is also a New Age Teacher. Just because you dont believe doesnt mean others dont. New Agers believe they are god, they are the creators and can manifest themselves. I didnt say all successful people, but being on a certain level you have screwe over many to get where one is... thats why its called business.

  • kdillon

    Also, there are many occult schools throughout the world. Alice Bailey who was a Satanist has one in america, students learn the arts of manipulation, alchemy, withcraft, etc... Just because you dont believe doesnt mean other dont.

  • SuthernBelle4

    I know that no one is probably in this post, but KrayZKat thank you so much sister for your post. Two of the most powerful people in the world are Black and we still have Black children in American going without a healthy meal or a decent education. We as Black people don't have to worry about White people ruining our community because we do it ourselves. We refuse to critique one another for fear of being labeled a "hater", we don't support one another in any endeavors, and as soon as we make it we forget about the community. I don't doubt that Oprah accomplished many things on her own, but there was someone there that cultivated her maybe a teacher, a professor, or mentor- so why not give back. I am working towards a PhD and once I receive it I am going to make it a priority to help other young Black men and women to achieve the same feat. We as a race of people have bought into the "american dream" and we have forgotten our original values, but reading your statement it is good to know there are still people out there that know! Not trying to deny my sista Oprah because I am proud of her and all that she has accomplished, this is just my take.

  • msnicole

    I'm so sick of people always pointing out that Oprah doesn't cater to the Black community. Name one other Black person other than Bill and Camille Cosby that has done more to support Black students. On today's show it showed she helped more than 66 thousand students go to school. Including a moving tribute from the men of Morehouse that had me in tears.

    WTF do you people want her to do? Have her shows cater to Black people, or her give millions of dollars to help Black kids graduate?

    Her contributions to these students shows where her heart is and you cannot argue against that. I don't like everything that Oprah does either, but you cannot say she doesn't support or align herself with the Black community.

  • SuthernBelle4

    Its not always about money, sometimes its about the political and when you refuse to discuss issues that are pertinent to the Black community that is an issue as well. I charge everyone in our community, not just Oprah and Obama, but everyone because it is our job to strengthen and take care of our community. If we are not responsibles for ourselves, why bother being concerned with the future?

  • http://unlimitedwhispers.com Deirdre_B_Pride

    I was surprised that all the blogs I frequent ran to put up another Run the World performance, but did not mention that Oprah gave $1.5 million to Save the Children.

    No shade or disrespect, but how do ppl equate the two? I just thought Oprah's philanthropy efforts were more important and should have been highlighted more than it was.

  • msnicole

    @SuthernBelle4

    It is about the money. Money is power. If she chooses to educate people with her money, is that not helping the Black community? We already have enough talking heads who aren't doing a damn thing to actually help us.

    I'm sick of all the talking about 'our issues'. We know what our issues are, so why not go out and solve them. Solving the problem is not talking, but doing.

    How many hundreds of programs and documentaries have we seen that discuss our issues? And not one of them actually resulted in a change or solution.

  • GoldenGurl

    Bye Oprah. :waves: It amazes me how white folk can cater to their own from media to education to employment and everything in between and no one seems to have a problem with it. But as soon as one questions as to why one of our own doesnt do the same for their own folk, then they are hating. :shrugs:

  • GoldenGurl

    Feline Feminine says:

    I know you weren’t talking to me, but I had to chime in on this one. The reason it’s necessary for black people to align with other blacks is because “united we stand, divided we fall.” Now, if you aren’t interested in building the black community, then feel free to ignore my remaining comments, but if you are, then may I suggest you take a look at every other ethnicity and culture. Asians, Latinos, Jews, etc., see the importance of aligning themselves with their own because it builds power, especially economic power. When you have that, you can call the shots. Many blacks are so busy buying into everyone else’s stock, that we don’t own ish. How can we, who spend billions of dollars on hair care products, not own the majority of hair care businesses? For the most part, the Asians have that on lock down. Why? Because they wanna make money, and usually that money goes back into building their communities. Latinos usually send their money home to family. Why do you think every other ethnicity has their own community with their own businesses in their own languages? Black people have systematically been divided, which has caused issues with our communities to this very day. Remember Oklahoma’s Black Wall Street? If not, take a look and that should answer your question. Marcus Garvey talked about us building our own people up as well. Just because we support other blacks, doesn’t mean we are anti everyone else.
    As far as the president, black people were on only ones hollering about, “He’s not the president of black America; he’s the president of America.” Well, women, Latinos, gays/lesbians, etc. didn’t have a problem approaching our president about what his plans were for their particular agenda. Many blacks were the only ones that though we had no right to ask of our president. It almost seems as though we are trying to prove something to others to get their approval.
    This is the mental illness that has plagued our community to the point where we are so self-loathing.
    JMO.

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    :clap: :applause: This is so on point. Economic power and generational wealth is all that we need to concerned about. Those of us that have yet to open the third eye cant see how the division amonst us was intentionally created for this reason.

  • http://www.myspace.com/importedfromnowhere lovebites

    Rascal Flatts is the shizzle.

  • http://grnhair.blogspot.com/ whatnow

    Oprah's OK. I'm looking forward to seeing what kind of programming is going to be on her network. I just hope it's not as boring as it appears.

  • SuthernBelle4

    @msnicole money is important, but the political is just as important. You can throw money at anything, but when you don't have anyone fighting on the front lines- money don't mean a damn thing. I have been doing research on the Civil Rights Movement there were many people who provided monetary support, but refused to march and protest- if it wasn't for the marching and protest as well we wouldn't have been able to make it far, so yes you need someone to discuss the issues, you need someone to be on the frontlines. Oprah has mostly talked about issues that face white, middle class Americans to bring certain things to the forefront, my question is why couldn't she do that for certain issues facing the Black community as well? We can just agree to disagree, but when you don't have political power- your money don't mean shit just ask C.C. Spaulding or Dr. James E. Shepard, or better yet Oprah when them white folks didn't let her into that super exclusive store. :/

  • SuthernBelle4

    @msnicole money is important, but the political is just as important. You can throw money at anything, but when you don't have anyone fighting on the front lines- money don't mean a damn thing. I have been doing research on the Civil Rights Movement there were many people who provided monetary support, but refused to march and protest- if it wasn't for the marching and protest as well we wouldn't have been able to make it far, so yes you need someone to discuss the issues, you need someone to be on the frontlines. Oprah has mostly talked about issues that face white, middle class Americans to bring certain things to the forefront, my question is why couldn't she do that for certain issues facing the Black community as well? We can just agree to disagree, but when you don't have political power- your money don't mean shit just ask C.C. Spaulding or Dr. James E. Shepard, or better yet Oprah when them white folks didn't let her into that super exclusive store. :/