The defense in the manslaughter trial of Michael Jackson’s former personal physician says the 50-year-old pop star drugged himself with the sedative Propofol while Dr. Conrad Murray was out of the room. Jackson died of cardiac arrest on June 25, 2009.
The defense contends that Jackson killed himself, and that Murray was unaware that his patient swallowed a cocktail of drugs, including a dose of the anesthetic, which is not made to be swallowed.
But the prosecution played an audio of Michael Jackson slurring his speech on May 10, 2009. The audio was recorded on Dr. Murray’s iPhone while Jackson was under the heavy influence of unknown drugs.
The prosecution says Dr. Murray was fully aware of how drugged Jackson was a month before he died. Yet the doctor continued to administer potentially deadly drugs to Jackson.
“When people leave my show, I want them to say, ‘I’ve never seen nothing like this in my life,’ ” Jackson said on the audio.
Jackson’s mother, Katherine Jackson, bit her lip and wiped away tears as the recording of Jackson slurring his words played in the courtroom.
Murray is charged with involuntary manslaughter and administering a lethal dose of the surgical anesthetic propofol.
OMG!!! This is the saddest thing I’ve ever heard. I don’t want to think about MJ in that light. So sad…
This is the news all across the net and radio. I’m missing the phenom with this trial.
MJ was a mess well before meeting Conrad Murray. Conrad was a careless Dr and all over the place in his normal practice. Bring the 2 together, you have this ending, and the promoters knew it. They knew he wouldn’t be able to pull off this tour, and once word started to get out, they offed him. Murray’s getting probation and losing his license for negligence, but HE DIDN’T KILL MJ. Was he wrong for leaving him unattended? Yes. Should a Dr be familiar with CPR? Yes.
When murray gave MJ the drug, he didn’t die. Who’s to say who gave mj the drug june 25 that killed him? If the dr says he didn’t, then he didn’t; who can argue it when no one else was in the room?
i’m so angry they tyrna say MJ offed himself
yo!!!
So Sad…It doesn’t even sound like him
it’s called negligence. & when ur pt dies bc of it U R RESPONSIBLE! he nvr should have left him. period!
While I believe MJ was an addict…I believe as a doctor, Conrad is held to a higher standard, and should have had MJ admitted to a treatment facility. At the very least, he needs to have his medical license revoked.
People were more concerned about leeching off him with this new tour, than his well-being. It’s a shame really…
dont wanna listen..
that audio is crazy. glad he was smart enough to get the best phone to get this audio so we can put him under the jail.
This is just sad!
Even in his drugged up state…he was still talking about helping people
@ rene
& gm 
MJ’s slurring was worse than his pic they showed yesterday. :shudders: IMO
@pointhimout
I even now how to perform CPR and I am nowhere near being in the medical profession. I do agree with you that no one knows what really happened because they were the only two in the room, with that being said if MJ to take the medication, why did the doc leave the medication alone with MJ in the room??? So many questions, not enough answers… I absolutely agree with involuntary manslaughter charge, although not intentional, he absolutely displayed a lack of responsibility…#endrant 
while I fully understand where you’re coming from, Dr. Conrad is still a medical professional. What doctor does not know how to administer CPR
BTW, Good morning everyone
These Hollywood doctors are something else. Reminds me of Kanye’s mom. For the right price, people will do anything and everything.
Auntie, can we get a post on Body dysmorphic disorder. I saw a picture of Lil K and didn’t even know that was her. I guess we know where her money going.
He actually sounds like a “man” in the recording as opposed to, “I Want You Back!”
……and other hits!
MJ was under Dr. Murray’s care, he got the drugs from him,, this not syrup & coke we talking about… MJ could only get the drugs from a doctor, so that Dr is responsible,,
@ pointhimout:
the facts in this case are clear: Dr. Murray administered the intravenous sedative into Michael’s vein. No one else did that but Dr. Murray. Then he left him alone so he could talk to his baby mama on his cell phone. I can’t stress this enough that Propofol is never used in the home!! It is anesthesia that is used ONLY in an operating room to knock a patient out for surgery. You have to monitor the patient’s breathing at all times while he’s under! Let me repeat: it’s illegal to administer anesthesia outside of a hospital setting! Dr. Murray knew that but he did it anyway because he wanted the money. Then when Dr. Murray got to the hospital and the emergency room doctors asked him what he gave Michael, HE LIED about the Propofol because he knew what he did was illegal! When you put all of that together you have a case of negligent homicide.
Morning all
everything you said. And now Conrad is experiencing the price of greed just like the “doctor” who gave Kanye’s mom plastic surgery
@Lovezoe I
There were 100’s of doctors that MJ had giving him illegal drugs during the span of his life. I feel like its was morally wrong for Conrad to give MJ the drugs but I feel like he was only following what his patient wants. There are millions of people who go and get drugs that they do not need because they are addicts. MJ was an addict, we have to accept that.
Conrad was merely a LEGAL drug dealer. Not saying that he shouldnt be held responsible but I dont think he should be sent to prison over this.
The Hippocratic Oath is an oath historically taken by doctors and other healthcare professionals swearing to practice medicine ethically
This here is so traumatizing….just wow…Michael was not even here anymore even when he was alive he was just a machine…no peace in his mind whatsoever…Although I’m sad that he died the type of peace he needed could only be found with the Lord. This is what happens when you dont have anyone really in your corner to reach u. Dr. Conrad was trife as all get out but mike was unreachable…it was too late long before he died. The best interview about mike was given by Lisa Marie (look it up on youtube, the one she did with Oprah). She kept it 100.
Bootcampgirl says:
if MJ to take the medication, why did the doc leave the medication alone with MJ in the room???
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Exactly. You’ve all seen movies about operations. The anesthesiologist is the one who stays at the patient’s head throughout the operation. The patient is knocked out so the anesthesiologist makes sure the patient is getting oxygen and his heart is beating. The anesthesiologist NEVER leaves the patient, not for one minute! The idea that a licensed doctor administered anesthesia to a patient outside of a hospital — and then left him alone — is just crazy! I don’t know what Dr. Murray could have been thinking other than he wanted that money.
u can’t just follow what ur patient wants if its not in their best interest
Conrad was merely a LEGAL drug dealer. Not saying that he shouldnt be held responsible but I dont think he should be sent to prison over this.
He shouldn’t go to prison but he should be held responsible? So if not prison then how? And administering intravenous anesthesia outside a medical facility is illegal…so Conrad was not a “legal drug dealer”.
chibytex says:
I feel like its was morally wrong for Conrad to give MJ the drugs but I feel like he was only following what his patient wants.
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I’ve heard of doctors giving their rich patients drugs, but never in my life have I ever heard of a doctor giving a patient ANESTHESIA outside of a hospital. I’m a registered nurse, so I can tell you with absolute certainty that it’s just not done! Even Dr. Sanjay Gupta was shaking his head and chuckling on CNN last night. Giving a patient anesthesia outside of a hospital or clinic is unheard of. It’s absurd. NO doctor in his right mind would do that because he knows it would be career suicide if the patient dies.
@Rene
What I meant by legal drug dealer was that he LEGALLY able to give people drugs and write perscriptions…not like a street corner drug dealer that has to duck the police.
@Candi I agree with you…but his patient was MICHEAL JACKSON…who gonna check MJ?
i don’t understand what him being mj has to do with anything
’ve heard of doctors giving their rich patients drugs, but never in my life have I ever heard of a doctor giving a patient ANESTHESIA outside of a hospital. I’m a registered nurse, so I can tell you with absolute certainty that it’s just not done! Even Dr. Sanjay Gupta was shaking his head and chuckling on CNN last night. Giving a patient anesthesia outside of a hospital or clinic is unheard of. It’s absurd. NO doctor in his right mind would do that because he knows it would be career suicide if the patient dies.
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I heard that MJ called the concoction that Conrad mixed up for him “milk” and MJ would tell Conrad that he needed his “milk before going to bed every night…
MJ was very aware of what Conrad was giving him. How do we know MJ was trying to kill HIMSELF on the low???
renegadesince1985 says:
And administering intravenous anesthesia outside a medical facility is illegal…so Conrad was not a “legal drug dealer”.
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It’s hard for people to understand the concept that NO doctor would ever give intravenous anesthesia to a patient outside of a hospital. They see that Dr. Murray gave it to Michael so they think it must be normal. It is absolutely not normal. It is against the law! And any doctor who gives anesthesia to a patient outside of a hospital needs to go to jail, because something is seriously wrong with that doctor.
@Candi
Meaning that MJ had a lot of power and that NOBODY wants/had the balls to tell MJ no…From the looks of things MJ paid “yes people” to do exactly what he says and give him exactly what he wants. He really didnt have people in his circle that were looking out for his best interest. And he paid the ultimate price for it!
Yes. Dr. Conrad seriosuly violated the medical code of ethics. Alot of professions have one (client/atty priv., journalistic code of ethics in re to your sources etc.) and according to medical professionals; and not just Sandra…he committed a SERRUS no no no no.
*I did feel sorry for him crying yesterday. It seemed to be for real and genuine.
it’s illegal to administer anesthesia outside of a hospital setting! Dr. Murray knew that but he did it anyway because he wanted the money. Then when Dr. Murray got to the hospital and the emergency room doctors asked him what he gave Michael, HE LIED about the Propofol because he knew what he did was illegal! When you put all of that together you have a case of negligent homicide.
@ chibytex
even a licensed doctor can’t give IV anesthesia to a patient unless he’s an anesthesiologist — which Dr. Murray is not. That’s why Dr. Murray lied to the emergency room personnel about giving the anesthesia. He is criminally negligent in Michael’s death. He should go to jail for that alone.
This is terrible case of a bad doctor and a drug addict. Conrad was his enabler. I honestly think Michael was an addict since 1984 when he got burned. Its a shame they could get him some real help
Sandra Rose says:
@ chibytex
even a licensed doctor can’t give IV anesthesia to a patient unless he’s an anesthesiologist — which Dr. Murray is not. That’s why Dr. Murray lied to the emergency room personnel about giving the anesthesia. He is criminally negligent in Michael’s death. He should go to jail for that alone.
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Street “doctors” (drug dealers)arent suppose to have oxycotin, Xanax, and other PRESCRIPTION drugs but they do…should they be blame for every drug overdose that happens? I dont think so…..
Wow! This is just too much. That deep voice doesn’t sound like the MJ I loved. Just wow.
I listened to part of this on my morning news. This is too sad for me. I can’t.
chibytex says:
Street “doctors” (drug dealers)arent suppose to have oxycotin, Xanax, and other PRESCRIPTION drugs but they do… should they be blame for every drug overdose that happens? I dont think so…..
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Your logic astounds me. I can’t…
that’s why i stopped, i don’t understand
Ain’t no way MJ woke up, saw nobody around and then decided to medicate himself. He would have been too out of if. FOHWTBS!
He woulda been like Doctor! Doctor! in his deep voice that he liked to hide from the public.
N-T-WAY
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@Sandra
I just believe folks are grown and they know what they are putting in their bodies…Nobody is holding a gun up to their heads and making them do this.
I agree that Conrad should lose his license, but I dont believe he should go to jail. MJ’s family needs to accept that their brother was a dope fiend… and that he ORDERED these drugs to be given to him. plain and simple.
I dont blame the dope man for overdoses. Clearly they have no morals by SELLING the dope in the first place. Its like dances with the devil…you cant blame the devil when he steps on your toes….
@Sandra
Have you heard about a new designer drug called bath salts? According to an ex-user, “It makes you absolutely crazy, like a walking paranoid schizophrenic,” It is supposed be like methamphetamine with a PCP chaser.
Of course nobody understands my logic..cause I aint giving MJ NO benefit of the doubt. Yes the doctor was wrong for giving MJ the drugs. But at the end of the day its MJ’s fault for allowing himself to be given the drugs…
ave you heard about a new designer drug called bath salts? According to an ex-user, “It makes you absolutely crazy, like a walking paranoid schizophrenic,” It is supposed be like methamphetamine with a PCP chaser.
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I heard about this!!! Its people sniffing bath salts…
I guess if people overdose on the bath salt, then they have the right to sue the bath salt company for putting toxins in the bath salt.
This is so unbelievably sad to listen to…this is WORSE than the pic yesterday…I’m gonna sit this post out…
@SANDRA
I am sooo with you today. How can people make excuses for this so-called “doctor”. He took and oath to “First do no harm”. Not “Harm if you are getting paid enough.”
Yes, MJ was a longtime prescription drug addict. But Murray was supposed to keep him alive, not help him kill himself with Propofol. And I am NOT moved at all by Con-Man’s crocodile tears.
#JusticeForMJ
I bet everyone that Conrad gets off.

YSO
Yes, MJ was a longtime prescription drug addict. But Murray was supposed to keep him alive, not help him kill himself with Propofol. And I am NOT moved at all by Con-Man’s crocodile tears.
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still think he was offed to get the insurance covering a show that the promoters figured out would not happen.
@CHIBY
Really?
Had to come back for this one…
@chiby
Sure those street dealers aren’t responsible for the overdoses…because they aren’t AROUND when they happen…this fool was in the next room while his patient was under a drug that doesn’t belong in the home… *scratches head*
Somebody email or txt me when yall done in here. I’m cool in hanging out in these dead MJ post…
Hey to my bews that’s up in here…
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@chibytex, it isn’t actually regular bath salts, they just call it that because they resemble. And at this point it is still legal but I read that they were trying to make it illegal. I am in the addiction field and it just boggles my mind at the lenghts people will go to get high..
Everything Sandra has said is right. I did one of my internships at a Hospital and had to sit in the OR while the patient was getting ready to have surgery and even during the course of it. They gave the patient a small dose of propofol, and within 15 secs, he was out. The anesthesiologist never ever, ever left the patients side throughout the whole thing. So for Murray to go to the restroom after doing so when he knows the consequences is ridiculous. He deserves whatever he gets for that chit.
Cool on* damn this auto correct
YSoSerious says:
@SANDRA
I am sooo with you today. How can people make excuses for this so-called “doctor”. He took and oath to “First do no harm”. Not “Harm if you are getting paid enough.”
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MJ SOUGHT out these type of doctors that would give him illegal prescription drugs. U see he didnt go to the average doctor for these drugs cause he knew he couldnt get them. He went UNDERGROUND a found a doctor with no morals and that was money hungry who give the concoction he was looking for.
MJ KNEW what the doctor was giving him. And that chit is gonna come out in court!!
Chiby
you comparing a licensed profession who took an oath to first do no harm to a street hood dope boy? FO REALZ?
i think he was giving him nimbex too which is a muscle relaxant, so that combined with that large dose propofol had to have been lethal.
@Man, painfully agree..
Chiby u should just stop…..I’m all for opinions but I think ur going against the grain on purpose….what points are you really tryna make? Smh
this fool was in the next room while his patient was under a drug that doesn’t belong in the home… *scratches head*
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I understand what you are saying, but if MJ was gonna overdose and die, how would Conrad standing right next him would have stopped anything…Once the patient is gone they are gone…nothing can prevent death, when its your time….
MJ ordered the concoction. I’m thinking that Conrad was use to giving MJ the concoction on a daily basis and figured MJ would be alright if he left and used the phone….
@Man
I think he’ll get off simply because he was likely hired to do this chit in the first place…I still think there was a conspiracy going on to off Mike…
@Man
Not taking that bet….he prolly will get off. LA prosecutors office strikes out again.
Michael was too far gone to make grown decisions and use logic…Thats where a licensed doctor comes in to offer guidence…Under his oath (I think yall medical professionals take one) they are instructed to always take into consideration the patients best interest at all times. The problem was when people told mike no he just replaced them. Even if it would have cost him a hefty payday “dr.” Conrad should have been smart enough to just say no…Please…Dr. Conrad was not that exclusive…he was bottom of the barrel as far as celebrity clients go…Thats why it took so long for mike to find a private physician, because the repuable ones didnt want to deal with him. Thats why he had gone thru so many doctors in the past.
His_Mommy623 says:
Chiby u should just stop…..I’m all for opinions but I think ur going against the grain on purpose….what points are you really tryna make? Smh
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I’m really not!! I just dont agree with the majority. I usually never do…
I bet the way I’m talking is how Conrad’s lawyers are gonna present this case in court and he is gonna walk away scott free!!
@ FE FE
@Man
I think he’ll get off simply because he was likely hired to do this chit in the first place…I still think there was a conspiracy going on to off Mike…
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@chiby
Ummm, if he was in the room with him he would have likely saw his heart rate drop and took the steps necessary to keep him alive…
maybe I’m giving doctors too much credit? I thought that’s why they monitored patients under the drug in a hospital so they could do what was necessary once something started to go wrong…wasn’t this fool gone for like 30 minutes or something like that????
@Chiby
Street dealers did NOT take an oath under the law to be ethical. That’s the difference here! Doctors are held to a higher standard…comparing someone that went to school for 8 years and is trusted by society to take care of the sick to a dumbazz that deals drugs is just silly. MJ was an addict…we all know that. As a doctor he should’ve done the right and ethical thing and that was to help him get treatment. END OF STORY!
The problem was when people told mike no he just replaced them. Even if it would have cost him a hefty payday “dr.” Conrad should have been smart enough to just say no…Please…Dr. Conrad was not that exclusive…he was bottom of the barrel as far as celebrity clients go…Thats why it took so long for mike to find a private physician, because the repuable ones didnt want to deal with him. Thats why he had gone thru so many doctors in the past.
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THIS IS MY POINT!!!!! MJ was dancing with the devil!!! And the devil won!!!
@CHIBY
I never said MJ didn’t know what he was being given. But he was a drug addict. They are not known for having the best judgment.
Murray was a doctor that should have known better. Period. He catered to MJ’s habit to get that 150,000 dollars a month but fcked up and killed his cash cow. Now he needs to pay for his choice to break medical and moral laws the same way that MJ did. Except that Con-Man will walk away from his bad decisions with his life unlike his patient.
As a doctor he should’ve done the right and ethical thing and that was to help him get treatment. END OF STORY!
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But MJ KNEW what kind of doctor he was hiring. He wasnt your average “stand-up, good guy” doctor. That’s why he was hired. Conrad didnt have any MORALS to begin with and MJ KNEW this. MJ knew what he was being given on a DAILY basis!!!
@chiby
No one is arguing whether or not MJ was an addict…that there is obvious, but Dr. Murray should have to pay for his ILLEGAL, UNETHICAL, AND IMMORAL actions that took place as well…
So, according to your logic if you want to die and you ask someone to kill you, if that person goes ahead and kills you because you wanted it, you think they should walk? No, the act of murder is still ILLEGAL, and that person will go to jail!
Also….”dr” Conrad is saying he went to the restroom for 2 minutes max and that MJ sat up in his bed, mixed all the drugs together, took it, and stopped breathing all while he was gone…In his drug induced stupor???
naw cuz u gave it to him and he was 
Now he needs to pay for his choice to break medical and moral laws the same way that MJ did
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I agree. He should lose his license and pay outta civil court…but I dont think he should go to jail…
So, according to your logic if you want to die and you ask someone to kill you, if that person goes ahead and kills you because you wanted it, you think they should walk? No, the act of murder is still ILLEGAL, and that person will go to jail!
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That sounds like some Dr. Jack Kavorkian (sp) ish
@ fefe
ur right. & didn’t the housekeeper or someone find MJ dead and then someone else went to call 911? Then Conrad comes back but by that time he’s already dead.. i can’t remember.. so really, his ass was wrong for even attempting to leave and for even giving it to him in the first place.
And I agree with Man and the rest that say Murray is gonna get off. If even one person on the jury thinks like Chiby…
@Chi, ok even if that IS how they present the case, it doesn’t make it right…..if Conrad did his job and wasn’t money hungry he wouldnt have been doing what he was doing . He made a choice. He doesn’t get a pass… he was a doctor and doctors are here to heal NOT to assist addictions because they want their pockets lined lovely…
MJ wasn’t trying 2 kill himself, he wanted SLEEP,, street drugs r different than what Mike was getting, he hired that man 2 help him sleep & monitor him while he was under,, Conrad was on the phone & neglected Mike,, somebody who was trying 2 kill himself wouldn’t have put so much into a big concert & comeback,, I hope they throw Conrad under the jail..
I agree with everything Sandra has said
@ cheeks
there is NO WAY this man did this himself. have you ever seen ppl when they come out of surgery? they’re all groggy and disoriented. i call bs on the Drs part.
No one is arguing the fact that MJ knew the doctor was shady…We’re saying regardless of that, Conrad’s actions were still illegal, and he was still responsible UNDER LAW, AS A DOCTOR to ensure this man’s health!
So, according to your logic if you want to die and you ask someone to kill you, if that person goes ahead and kills you because you wanted it, you think they should walk? No, the act of murder is still ILLEGAL, and that person will go to jail!
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I guess I see your point, but people are making it seem like the doctor flat out murdered MJ. I feel like MJ ordered his own death.
Its like Conrad sold him the gun knowing MJ was gonna kill himself, and MJ pulled the trigger on his own. That’s the way I look at!.
#sumshytujustgottaleggo
@ chi
so if he sold him the gun, knowing he was gonna kill himself, you don’t think he should punished for that? that’s like second degree murder easily.
Gun suppliers dnt take oaths either….
Good morning everyone!
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hey tatted mornin’
ready for a
can already see where this one is going.
@chiby
I think they are trying to convict him of negligent manslaughter, or something like that….meaning he probably didn’t plot to kill him, but he acted in a manner that caused a man to die and had he not acted in that way (that way involving illegal and unethical activities), a man would still be alive. He isn’t being tried for Murder 1….
It’s gettin’ hot in herr
So take off all your clothes
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#50centstigator
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imma ask my toxicology professor about this so we can have the class off.
sum1 pls hmu when there’s a
up. i cant take THIS bs this moanin 
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there is NO WAY this man did this himself. have you ever seen ppl when they come out of surgery? they’re all groggy and disoriented. i call bs on the Drs part.
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Exactly! They sound and act like the able audio of MJ. Bottom line: was MJ at the point of no return? YES. Did he hire a shady doctor: *Insert Conrad Murry* YES Sould Conrad Murry have known the consequences of prescribing and giving drugs only authorized to be used in extreme medical emergencies: ABSOLUTELY! Will he pay for his crime: Prolly not, although he should and should never practice medicine again
kingstonn says:
@ chi
so if he sold him the gun, knowing he was gonna kill himself, you don’t think he should punished for that? that’s like second degree murder easily.
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I guess I look at it like when you do chit like what MJ was doing…death is gonna come. Conrad wasnt the first “illegal, legal doctor” MJ had. Conrad was the one that got caught. MJ has been doing this for years.
And to answer your question, is it morally wrong to sell a gun to some one who is gonna themselves
But if they bought the gun, then at the end of the day when they take it home, its really nothing you can do. If that’s what they really want to do.
Sandra can we get a “drag me” emoticon. It would save some folks a lot of key strokes.
@Kingbew
FEFE!!
I think I need to leave this post. Cause really…
TaBewwwww

But if they bought the gun, then at the end of the day when they take it home, its really nothing you can do. If that’s what they really want to do.
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If the gun dealer knew the customer was gonna kill himself but sold the gun anyway he has broken the law.
Chiby come into the light carol ann come into the light.
I give up…
please!
*taps foot*
Long Time Lurker says:
Sandra can we get a “drag me” emoticon. It would save some folks a lot of key strokes
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heeeey LTL 
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LURKER!!
Can you take me away from here please? It’s too early and now I have the sads.
Damn I guess I gotta agree with the majority so I wont piss people off…
Whatever! Everybody acting like MJ was a saint…he wasnt. He is about to get exposed.
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@datsmdub
there’s a legal name for something like that…
i think its like inadvertent malfeasance or something..
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chibytex says:
Damn I guess I gotta agree with the majority so I wont piss people off…
Whatever! Everybody acting like MJ was a saint…he wasnt. He is about to get exposed
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:stop: pls chi..aint nobody sayin MJ was a saint, but that doest mean he wasn’t mistreated either GYAT DAMMIT
If the gun dealer knew the customer was gonna kill himself but sold the gun anyway he has broken the law.
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Do you think the gun dealer gonna really admit that chit. If he’s smart he aint. He gonna be like I aint know what he bought the gun for. Yes he came into my shop sad and depressed, but I didnt REALLY think he was gonna kill himself, I thought maybe it was gonna take the gun and go HUNTING to release so stress….
Pretty much what Conrad is gonna say about what happened to MJ….
@ dats – I just changed the gravi to this one. The other one was yellow….can you see the fuschia in the corners? I can’t!
Sup Fay, YSO and all the other beauties of SR.
all around!
OMG! THis is so sad! Poor Micheal!
conrad only cared about the money.. clearly Michael had a “visable” problem. It was conrads duty to alert authorities… but I gues that woudlve cut into his pay check :rollseyes:
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@ Tatted
Yes I can near the outside corners…
exotic….
Sandra can we get a
please…cause I see aint no agreeing to disagree going on in here today…
I forgot I’m dealing with MJ and his fan base is 100 stronger than Beyonce stans…I’m never gonna get people to see my logic….
@CHIBY
Unless I missed something, ain’t nobody saying MJ was saint, at least not in this here post.
You have a right to your opinion just like everyone else but facts are facts. I don’t think you’re seeing pissed-offness, just frustration and confusion cause some of us just don’t get your logic. That’s all.
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I support assisted suicide…
@ dats – thanks mama! I cannot see it on my laptop.
Chi I swear sometimes u do this chit on purpose… but I digress….. :rollseyes:
just frustration and confusion cause some of us just don’t get your logic. That’s all.
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My logic is when you dance with the devil, dont get mad when he steps on your toes….
That is all!!!
@chiby
It has nothing to do with that…folks disagree on here all the time…but the argument you are making is logically unsound IMHO…I think you are being cold and heartless in your views. We know MJ was an addict, addicts do not think or make logical decisions, especially when they need their fix. My father was addicted to crack years ago…so according to you, if he was walking in a dark alley trying strike something up and a thug walks by and beats him up, robs him, and shoots him up with an overdose, that thug should walk because my dad knew what situation he was walking into?????? GTFOOH!
Tatted!
I’m better suga… *closes eyes*
its not that we’re fans, its that ur logic is downright baffling.
@TATTED,
Dayum, you a BEAST with the make-up! I only do eyeshadow (one color, cuz I’m a punk) and some gloss………..
*singing Teach Me by Musiq Soulchild*
@SAM
Well you’re in the right post. Looks like somebody bout throw themselves under the pity bus again.
I have to agree with Sandra on this one. Yes MJ was an addict. Yes he would have paid anything to get his drugs. But as a licensed medical professional, you are responsible for your patients even when you are prescribing medications to them yet alone administering the drug yourself. This drug is not even a prescription drug, we are talking about an anesthesia that should ONLY be used in a facility where proper monitoring can occur. He is definitely negligent even if he did not administer the fatal dose, he provided it and allowed this patient easy access to a drug they would not ordinarily have.
His_Mommy623 says:
Chi I swear sometimes u do this chit on purpose… but I digress….. :rollseyes:
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Why would I do that…I simply dont agree with everybody else and we are having a conversation. I dont understand what I’m doing on “purpose?”
chibytex says:
I’m never gonna get people to see my logic….
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I think the problem is, is that your TRYING to get people to see your logic. There’s a difference between stating your opinion & moving on and trying to get people to see where you’re coming from. Don’t worry if others get your logic. It is YOUR logic and people may not get that. State your opinion and let that be that. No one is going to agree w/you @ all times but people can respect opinions thats different than their own. You get so many responsese to your post because you will keep going and going until you feel someone gets what you’re saying. Honey, don’t worry ’bout that!
#JUSTWHATI’VEOBSERVED
Child Dies After Visiting Urgent Care Clinic
“HENRY COUNTY, Ga. — A metro Atlanta family wants to know why a 5-year-old girl with a broken arm died after visiting a Henry County urgent care clinic.
Channel 2 investigative reporter Aaron Diamant first got a tip about Kensley Kirby’s death back in June, and chose to hold off reporting the story until the Henry County Coroner confirmed how she died.
This week, the coroner told Diamant that someone at the Family Medical Clinic on Hampton Road in McDonough gave Kensley a lethal dose of anesthesia.
Kensley’s death has hit that community hard. Diamant found plenty of heavy hearts at Chevy’s Diner on Macon Street.
“It was tragic,” said diner owner and family friend Neil Daniell. “We were shocked.”
Daniell said he and his staff were shocked and deeply saddened since learning of Kensley’s death.
“She spent so much time here that she almost acted like she owned the place,” Daniell recalled.
In June, Kensley’s parents took her to the urgent care clinic after a fall.
“They went from picking the color of the cast with their daughter to basically being with her as she died,” said Pete Law, the Kirby family’s attorney….”
@Chi
Do you think the gun dealer gonna really admit that chit.
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Nope that’s what trials are for.
You out there but my theory is out there too. I think AEG told Dr murray to do whatever MJ wanted knowing it was gonna have a bad end because they were trying to collect the insurance covering the show because they were fearful the show would not happen. When Kenny Ortega testified that they didn’t know where MJ was for a week when the were suppose to be rehearsing….that sealed it for me. AEG said “give him whatever he wants”. If he croaks it we get paid anyway.
@Fe *purr* let it go….shawty likes getting a rise outta ppl on this site… I’m certain its intentional
i was gonna comment but nvmd, its already been said
awesome! :wave: <—- the sock i stole the other day
@His
If you have some Organic Apple Cider Vinegar and Organic or raw honey take it. You’d be surprised how fast you start to improve
@Tatted
@ MzTisch – Thank you shugah!
It really is simple. I started out w/2 colors…then I just kept practicing. Anytime I get an idea, I go right to the bathroom. Sometimes I have to wipe it off because I’m like
but then other times, i’m like “did I do that?” (urkel style). It’s really about practicing, knowing the basics, have good brushes & primer & shadow!
THANK YOU AGAIN!
Sandra Rose says:
Your logic astounds me. I can’t…
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Sandra should have just put up a sign that said “Get ‘Em!!!”
ay dios mio, me duele la cabeza! chit…
and a thug walks by and beats him up, robs him, and shoots him up with an overdose, that thug should walk because my dad knew what situation he was walking into?????? GTFOOH!
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No I think that’s wrong. BUT if you father went to the dope house and bought a bad dosage or used too much…then that’s what happens when you living that type of lifestyle.
And I feel like THIS is what happens when you SEEK out unethical doctors to give you drugs YOU know you shouldnt be taking.
@DATS
I can believe that theory. But AEG is never gonna pay for their part in MJ’s death. And neither will Murray it seems.
Tatted Diva AKA The Makeup Maven says:
@ MzTisch – Thank you shugah!
It really is simple. I started out w/2 colors…then I just kept practicing. Anytime I get an idea, I go right to the bathroom. Sometimes I have to wipe it off because I’m like but then other times, i’m like “did I do that?” (urkel style). It’s really about practicing, knowing the basics, have good brushes & primer & shadow!
THANK YOU AGAIN!
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Any products you recommend?
Brands of shadow? Brushes?
Don’t give yourself a headache ma….it’s so not worth it. Did you get any rain last night? I did
@His
*flustered*
Yeah, I’m gonna lurk this post on out…
what’s with the random news clipping?
His_Mommy623 says:
@Fe *purr* let it go….shawty likes getting a rise outta ppl on this site… I’m certain its intentional
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I really dont. I’m just not going to agree with what everybody else is saying for sake of agreeing. Not in my nature!!!
I’m not trying to get a “rise” outta nobody!!
@YSO
@ FeFe – thanks girl. I can really give 2 chits if anyone agrees w/me. I’m a firm believer that just because I believe it, doesn’t make it true! We all know that we can take 1 statement and 100 people will interpret it 100 different ways. If we all thought the same on this blog, it would be a boring, fugged up one! You get the arguments when you’re hell bent on someone seeing your point of view!
#SINGLECHILD&RUNSBYMYSELF
@ htown
i slept through it.
i didn’t even know it rained till i walked my dogs and saw all the puddles.
@Kingston
what’s with the random news clipping?
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tryin to change the subject b4 blood is spilled and the banning commences..
still no
huh? 
HIS!!!!!!
sup suga wuga?
You logic is based on fallacy. Dr. Murray ignored his oath and did illegal things to assist an addict. He is culpable…Point. Blank. Period.
EducatorMomfromMS says:
Child Dies After Visiting Urgent Care Clinic
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I heard about this case. That’s very sad but it happens often at pediatric dental clinics. Now imagine if that child was given anesthesia at home. You can’t give a child the same dosage as you give adults. Children’s medication dosages are measured in point cc’s such as 0.6cc or 0.6ml. It’s easy to mess up when measuring dosages that tiny. So you have to be extremely careful.
*epiphany*
Is there such a thing as BPS? Battered Poster Syndrome?
@ MZTisch – eyeshadow – any really but I DO love BH Cosmetics. If for the pocketbook watchers and it really is a good eyeshadow. I also love Ragdoll Cosmetics, they are a little more than BH but they are pretty. w/BH, you can get palettes and have a lot of colors….
Brushes, I got some cheap ones, but I also have some from Sephora….My friend just got hired as a makeup artist w/MAC so I’m waiting for that discount so I can raid THOSE brushes!
I would NEVER buy them for reg price……
Sorry, I can’t…
@chiby
So if my father’s death resulted in police cracking down on a dope house and found some dope boys…they should walk because my father knew what he was doing????Illegal activity is illegal activity no matter WHO is doing it!
outlaw2011 says:
Yes MJ was an addict. Yes he would have paid anything to get his drugs. But as a licensed medical professional, you are responsible for your patients even when you are prescribing medications to them yet alone administering the drug yourself. This drug is not even a prescription drug, we are talking about an anesthesia that should ONLY be used in a facility where proper monitoring can occur. He is definitely negligent even if he did not administer the fatal dose, he provided it and allowed this patient easy access to a drug they would not ordinarily have.
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even though 4 years isn’t long at all, the Dr will get off with an even lighter punishment. Get ready for the mud slinging and ALL the drugs MJ was on even before Conrad came into the picture. This doc aint just became careless like this either. This is y I say the plan was to off MJ all along. It was too easy. He’s addicted to drugs, all knew it. Murray’s a careless Dr, perfect.
I do have to say though after hearing this on the radio. Dr Murray wasn’t aware of what drugs MJ was on. This was said on the radio. God that can’t be true because every physician asks you about ur med history before they do anything with you. So the docs lying. We’re the public and we all knew MJ was on something due to those severe burns in his head.
Even still, doc aint going down for 4 years. He’ll never practice medicine again either. How does one tell a rich man no?
@Kingstonn
i was just starting my shift at work and the lights were flickering off and on. I was
they would go off, but they didn’t
It got dark in like 5 minutes.
PayDay! Hey pretty woman!
@Chi, ok
*sits next to tatted* i loooove buying make up…but i rarely wear it
i have a disorder. i love the brushes from sephora (i buy them when i have a coupon card of some sort)
FAYLA!!
Cause I hate you for that BPS comment.
Fayla aka JuicyFruit says:
*epiphany*
Is there such a thing as BPS? Battered Poster Syndrome?
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^^^^^ Sandra can we get a medical minute, please?
Candi!
I was gonna buy another pair but I’ve gotten used to feeling the breeze on my ankle. It’s refreshing. Might even stop wearing the other one.
#revelation
@YSo
My stance on assisted suicide has nothing to do with this post, I only commented because it was brought up.
I DID NOT WANT TO HEAR MJ THAT WAY…
BUT EVEN MEDICATED HE IS THINKING ABOUT THE KIDS AND DOING GOOD FOR THE WORLD… WE HAVE LOST A TRUE HUMANITARIAN A PERSON WHO LOVED TO SEE PEACE IN THE WORLD… JUST SAD…
R.I.P MJ
So if my father’s death resulted in police cracking down on a dope house and found some dope boys…they should walk because my father knew what he was doing????Illegal activity is illegal activity no matter WHO is doing it!
they should held responsible.
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I dont think they should be held responsible for the death if your father overdosed. They aint morally responsible for telling your dad how much crack he should be smoking… They should be charged with illegal possession of drugs and that’s it. Now if they were putting some chit in the crack like acid or chit like that then
Fayla aka JuicyFruit says:
*epiphany*
Is there such a thing as BPS? Battered Poster Syndrome?
ven still, doc aint going down for 4 years. He’ll never practice medicine again either. How does one tell a rich man no?

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please let Jesus be a new interesting post, topic, something!
Ok so I meant hey FayBay* my fuggin phone irks my soul with this auto correct
@KINGSTON AND HIS HEWO MORNING AND SHYT
Is BPS anything like Münchausen syndrome?
Fayla aka JuicyFruit says:
*epiphany*
Is there such a thing as BPS? Battered Poster Syndrome?
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That’s real cute…just cause I dont agree!!
kingstonn says:
So for Murray to go to the restroom after doing so when he knows the consequences is ridiculous. He deserves whatever he gets for that chit.
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That is so true. The sad part is there are other strong sedatives that Dr. Murray could have given MJ to put him out without requiring Murray to sit there the whole time and monitor him.
smh and
@Sandra
We need an emoticon for placing a gun to the head…
Folks is real childish….
@ Candi – ME TOO! Swear, I always try to purchase from their, hoping that they pull my name for that $250 shopping spree there! I would FAINT!
@CHI GIRL U DONT BACK DOWN.. HEY UR OPINION IS LIKE ERRBODY ELSES WE ALL GOT ONE AND WE MIGHT NOT AGREE… IN OTHER NEWS I JUST HAD A SMASHING BREKFAST BURRRRITO!
Uh oh….
@SAM
Oh. Okay.
I’m not sure how I feel about assisted suicide myself. I do know that there are worse things than death and some people simply cannot deal with them. As their family or as a society as a whole, who are we to try and force them to live a life they no longer want to live?
Is there such a thing as BPS? Battered Poster Syndrome?
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That’s real cute…just cause I dont agree!!
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That wasn’t for you that’s for the people who keep trying to change you.
Hey Laker :2dance:
189 chibytex says:
Fayla aka JuicyFruit says:
*epiphany*
Is there such a thing as BPS? Battered Poster Syndrome?
glad u like 
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That’s real cute…
The bottom line is that both parties have to assume responsibility in the situation, MJ unfortunatley has already asuumed his responsibility with his death.
Now, it’s time that Conrad Murray (I refuse to address him as a Dr.) must asuume his responsibility. MJ is not on trial here, Conrad Murray is. At the very least, he should be charged with some type of involuntary manslaughter.
Sidenote: Kinda the same thing when two drunk people get in a car accident together and the passenger dies. Usually the family sues the driver, because yeah the passagener shouldn’t got in the car with another drunk person, but ultimately the driver is the one held accountable, because they shouldn’t have gotten behind the wheel. The BURDEN of responsibility is on the driver. Same situation here, the BURDEN of responsibility is ultimately on the doctor…..MJ was NOT A doctor-Conrad Murray was…HE SHOULD HAVE KNOWN better and he has to be held negligent for his lapse in judgement as a doctor.
kingstonn says:
please let Jesus be a new interesting post, topic, something!
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Did you see the other 3 posts that I put up for you kids early this morning? I’m going to start doing what NB does: put up 3 posts in the morning and then spend the rest of the day on Twitter
@LEAP
Thank. You.
I dont get in the car with people KNOWING they are drunk….I may as well get a gun a kill myself….
But I get your point Leap…I still dont think Conrad should get the books thrown at him though….
@YSo
A friend of mine was drunk last year and walked in traffic trying to cross the street. He got hit by a car and it dislocated mostly all of his joints and exploded a lot of his organs. He survived but is now a quadreplegic. He’s expressed on numerous occasions he doesn’t want to be HERE anymore. Was separated from his wife at the time but now that he gets housing and assistance she’s back with him. She takes care of him but he really can’t stand her, he just doesn’t want to be alone.
Sandra : don’t you do that !!!!
4 years ain’t nothing! He is guilty, by the true definition. He is the professional that got caught with his hand in the cookie jar, so to speak.
Do your time fool.
@ Sandra
just don’t start posting about Nicki Minaj six times a day though! Lol.
Sigh.
:stop: Stop playing Auntie. You know you love interacting with us on here
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Chi, stop feeling sorry for this fool. He got paid! How would you feel if the patient was one of your close family members, would he get a pass still?! #behonest
@Yall
Did you get my email?
#wasalternaivemedicine
#notinaclique
#alternative
Mike was clearly out of it…that concoction was powerful. Mike spoke in his real voice that Liza Minelli spoke about in an interview. She said the whole soft spoken high pitch voice was an act. It was truly sad that he died like he did but even more sad how he lived. He was truly a lost soul, looking for peace and he NEVER got it. You take a young boy at the age of 5 and thrust him in an adult world and he was forever lost. I found it interesting the promoter testified that Mike was out of it a practice, yet they didn’t hesitate to promote the “This is It”. The same promoter claimed they wanted the world to see how great a shape Mike was in before his death….lies!!!
Drug dealers aren’t medical professionals who take an oath of ethic etc etc…mj is not on trial Conrad is he broke the law..end of story he needs to be in jail the end…
Good
day to all.
Yes H, I looked and found a diffuser for about $70. It’s like a opened up a door that I’ve never been insdie before. I did not know that the oils had healing properties. I think Laker or some other mother on here was asking about the oils. I read about one oil that gets rid of scars in no time.
So Yall ignoring me now?
Chi, stop feeling sorry for this fool. He got paid! How would you feel if the patient was one of your close family members, would he get a pass still?! #behonest
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I would probably feel the same way. I feel like when do chit that MJ was doing you have to understand the consequences. Conrad didnt give a FUKK about MJ. All he wanted was a paycheck and MJ KNEW that…it part of the game…
I got a cousin who has overdosed like 5 times and this muthafukker goes back to the SAME dealer everytime. Its no different than what MJ was doing…I guess the only difference would be that Conrad was a doctor and took an oath. Chit people take oath’s everyday and dont uphold them…
Money talks and bullchit oaths walk…..
@yall oils??
what kinds of oil 
Glad to help ma! It is healthier and also very cost effective. I still have a few things to send you. You can actually make immune boosters to take daily and keep you lil man well doing the cold and flu season.
*blank stare* all up and down this post..
#RIP MJ!
Chi, you’re putting street drug dealers on the same platform as licensed physicians that go to school and uphold oaths.
Legal cases set presidence (sp)
& if we allowed Dr’s to behave as Mr. Murray where would we be at????
It’s apples and oranges.
But we can just agree to disagree and move on up outta this post.
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Laker, google oil diffusers and myrtle oil and click on any one of those. I read some testimonies about people getting rid of the scars and help with asthma. Go look.
@Yall
I would also look into those pocket inhalers for your son. It’s something he can keep in his backpack and use throughout the day. It’s also good for you to use if you are congested, make a special scent to clear your nasal passages. If you are tired a little peppermint and lavender can pep you up, etc. It’s really cool.
RIP MJ
*Hits restart on his This Is It bootleg dvd*
this is how i want to remember the Kang…
@lakers
hello beautiful….is it safe to be in here with you?
Aceeeeeeeeee wtf!
Yes H, I saw those. I have been putting peppermint lotion on my nose since forever and folks would laugh, but I’d be like shatt this smell keeps me in a good mood all day!
@kingston
I know I been M.I.A. ….me sorry no excuse…etc etc..
@ chibytex I have mostly all the post and I definitely see your logic…I was yelling at the computer. I wish I was in on the discussion but it is too late….
This is so sad and yes this is his voice. Michael gave the world the “money voice” which was high pitched and non threatening. However, I had the pleasure of hanging out with the entire Jackson family in 1981 and I was shocked at how deep Michael’s voice was. It is hard to accept what the industry caused him to become……what’s even harder to understand is why people want to become famous? Look at Vesta Williams…. The pressure to stay on top is quite depressing. And trust and believe everyone falls from the lime light sooner or later.
Sandra Rose says:
@ pointhimout:
the facts in this case are clear: Dr. Murray administered the intravenous sedative into Michael’s vein. No one else did that but Dr. Murray. Then he left him alone so he could talk to his baby mama on his cell phone. I can’t stress this enough that Propofol is never used in the home!! It is anesthesia that is used ONLY in an operating room to knock a patient out for surgery. You have to monitor the patient’s breathing at all times while he’s under! Let me repeat: it’s illegal to administer anesthesia outside of a hospital setting! Dr. Murray knew that but he did it anyway because he wanted the money. Then when Dr. Murray got to the hospital and the emergency room doctors asked him what he gave Michael, HE LIED about the Propofol because he knew what he did was illegal! When you put all of that together you have a case of negligent homicide.
September 28, 2011 at 9:04 am
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Thank you Sandra. In my opinion it should be a cut and dried case, but I sincerely doubt that Dr. (and I use that term loosely) Murray will spend one minute in jail. I bet the people that are saying it wasn’t his fault would have a different opinion if an anesthesiologist left a loved one unattended and they died under his care. It happened to my eight yo cousin but in this case the anesthesiologist gave him too much anesthesia (hospitals words) during heart surgery and he died. Negligence is negligence. point blank period.
Fayla aka JuicyFruit says:
chibytex says:
Damn I guess I gotta agree with the majority so I wont piss people off…
Whatever! Everybody acting like MJ was a saint…he wasnt. He is about to get exposed

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:stop: pls chi..aint nobody sayin MJ was a saint, but that doest mean he wasn’t mistreated either GYAT DAMMIT
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