Why Lil Wayne’s ‘Carter 4′ Outsold Kanye and Jay Z’s ‘Throne’

Forbes published an interesting article breaking down why Lil Wayne outsold Kanye and Jay Z’s critically-acclaimed album Watch The Throne. Wayne topped the charts this week with his fourth studio album Carter IV which scanned 940,000 copies.

Forbes theorized that the combined egos of Jay Z and Kanye West caused them to lose touch with their fanbase — a problem that Weezy doesn’t seem to have. In addition to that, Kanye and Jay Z’s ill-advised strategy of releasing the album first to iTunes might have hurt their sales:

Carter IV. Jay-Z and Kanye pursued a complicated release strategy that included exclusive windows with Apple’s iTunes and BestBuy, in part to safeguard against the possibility of a leak (and angered some retailers in the process). The Young Money/Cash Money team did nothing of the sort, and didn’t expend much energy on security, either.

Entertainment attorney Bernie Resnick told Forbes that the artists’ personalites also played a part:

“The potential for negative perception of an artist is certainly part of the sales equation,” he says. “I think that people perceive Wayne as a fun guy to be around, and perhaps he takes himself a little less seriously than the Throne guys.”

When asked about the blog rumors accusing him of spending a few milli buying mass quantities of his artist’s albums, Young Money CEO Bryan “Birdman” Williams said, “I don’t know where that came from, I ain’t buy no copies,” he says. “No indeed, man, ain’t no way in the world, it’s impossible. Why would I do that? We got this money, and this money here come hard.”

But it’s hard to ignore Birdman’s constant bragging about dropping millions on cars and gambling.

Although Birdman, aka Baby, suggested that hard work helped Lil Wayne reach the almost platinum mark in one week, he admitted he gave his artist a little boost.

“I always support my brand, our brand,” he says. “So whenever we have anything out, I buy myself a couple albums for the homies, maybe two or three for myself.”


 


159 Responses to “Why Lil Wayne’s ‘Carter 4′ Outsold Kanye and Jay Z’s ‘Throne’”

  1. 1
    Daisy says:

    I don’t get caught up into sales if I like a cd I like a cd that being said congrats to Wayne

    Folks can say what they want abt him but he has some hawt/catchy songs and I like his cd better than WTT. I love me some Yeezy but I only liked abt 4 songs off WTT. As they say different strokes for different folks!

  2. 2
    prynsexxx says:

    You said the same thing about Kelly vs. Bey. :coffee:

  3. 3

    Jay “Jigga Boo” Z NEVER been a good rapper… NEVER. I hope he do try to go back and forth with Wayne so he gets slaughtered.

    Although I don’t think ANYONE wants to go at it with Kanye crazy azz lyrically. :no:

  4. 4
    Pikaso says:

    So Sandra, I guess you didnt ask Birdman about letting us have some of the cds he bought…

  5. 5
    MzDimplez1123 says:

    CARTER IV! :cheer:

  6. 6

    Baby bout maybe 1,2 or 300 thousand albums. That’s the only way I can see this garbage album reaching that point. Especially when you were able to illegally download it days in advance :shrug:

  7. 7
    MsPretTiTi says:

    Thats cause WTT was all hype, two arrogant nigz on the Mic. Dont get me wrong I like JayZ and Kanye, but I cant stomach them together. Congrats Weezy! :cheer:

  8. 8
    KeyshKeysh says:

    Im sorry but aint nothing Wayne got out right now hot…he is with out a doubt garbage as well as the last Carter album…folks delusional…

  9. 9

    *bought

    @Man Jay-Z is far more lyrical than…nursery rhymer Lil’Wayne. I would to see them go back and forth as well. WTT was a good album. Im in love with the song “Made in America”

  10. 10
    Creamychic says:

    Dam shame :crying: I dont Know, nott’a thang about these folks music, oh well, i’ll just read the comments :shrugs: NEXT>>>>>>>

  11. 11
    Daisy says:

    Nope not delusional again diff strokes for diff folks :coffee:

  12. 12
    Ace says:

    the real reason…is

    Amazon(com) …sold the album for .99 cents as part of its Cloud exclusive…

    :coffee:

    :hug: Dimpz

  13. 13
    Secret says:

    :offtopic:

    I hope the execution of Troy Davis will be stopped. This is why the death penalty needs to be banned from everywhere. If they have evidence that can help him why are they refusing to allow it? :(

  14. 14

    @TAINTED
    “Jay-Z is far more lyrical than…nursery rhymer Lil’Wayne. I would to see them go back and forth as well. ”
    _____________________________________________________________________________

    :no:

    All “Jigga-boo” EVA rap about is how much money he doesn’t have has and that he got a beard Beyonce. :shrugs:

    Wayne > Jigga Boo

  15. 15
    CivilEngineer says:

    Haven’t listened to WTT but I put Carter IV in on the drive to work and I like it so far (parked on “She Will”)

  16. 16
    Daisy says:

    @secret Me too I have been following this case for years. Heartbreaking :sad: I :pray: God shows up and out!!!

  17. 17

    WTT was done for the art of it all not sales. there isnt even really a single per say on the album. they made the music they wanted to make. Wanye appeals to a different audience he has young kids and other races who support his music so despite this album being not that great and poor album reviews it still got a lot of support because kids gonna buy it because they think wayne best thing since sliced bread. the only thing i can say is if the carter came out before WTT i may have liked it more but because it offers so little substance i probably only like about 7 songs on the albu.

  18. 18

    Hmmmmm why do guys stand so close together – #BROMANCE

  19. 19

    @Man that’s all Wayne raps about with the occasional drug reference. Jay-Z covers plenty of subjects on WTT.
    &&lol at you calling Jay homo…when Wayne was seen kissing Baby numerous times

  20. 20
    Smonae80 says:

    I don’t get it, WTT hot 2 me, I refuse 2 support a grown azz man that refer 2 himself as a grown azz blood

  21. 21
    Daisy says:

    @east Nice try all Kanyes cd are made for artistic purposes and I liked them this one not so much :nono: I don’t look to Wayne or Jay for substance :shrug:

  22. 22
    Spicy_Ma says:

    I can’t wait for the new DMX album myself :shrug:

  23. 23

    I ain’t buy neither one of these damn albums. I ain’t been a fan of Jay’s since Reasonable Doubt. :shrugs: I flucks with Wayne on some of his shat, and I defnitely flucks with Yeezy, but not if I have to hear Jay’s wack azz.

  24. 24

    @Secret There have been several rallies held to get this man off. This is truly sad…there is plenty of evidence out there that will clear his name. Im :pray: that don’t go through with this

  25. 25
    CFREE says:

    :dance: Now jump up on dat d*ck and hit a full split :danban1:

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    lovezoe says:

    I think it is funny that Mack Maine throwing shade at the “old head”. Jay-Z doesn’t have to sale albums for moving units. Compared to Jay-Z, YMCMB will always have “baby money”. Other than, congrats to Wayne. His concert was pretty good. My boo #RAWSE did the best, but Wayne put on a good show too.

    OAN: I HATE HATE HATE “How to love”

  27. 27

    Excuse my typos Im on my phone

  28. 28
    Smonae80 says:

    @ Spicy_Ma that old RR clique had them bangers, X, Jada, Styles & Eve

  29. 29
    Daisy says:

    @lovezoe How to love is my JAM

    I didn’t buy either cd :nono:

  30. 30
    Secret says:

    @ Daisy and Tainted_Love

    Hopefully it will work out this is crazy :(

  31. 31

    @daisy
    kanye last album was the only album that was artistic. he broke music format not the traditional 16 bar rap hook and so forth all the albums before MBDTF followed tradition song format. so when i say artistic thats what i mean not that his albums before wasnt for the art but they still followed traditional format.

  32. 32
    Spicy_Ma says:

    @Smonae

    X shut all this shyt down by himself!

  33. 33
    CFREE says:

    Daisy I wasn’t in love with the song at 1st then I saw the video :yes:
    And the song with T-Pain (How to Hate) :whistle: im done with all these bytch azz bytchessss :whistle:

  34. 34
    Daisy says:

    @Secret The NAACP and others have been trying for years to free Troy. I think he at least deserves a new trial this un just justice system is a trip :mad:

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    SamYell JacksEm says:

    Got the WTT on bootleg played it for a couple weeks. Jay came off pretty weak save for a couple of songs but the album is ok, still disappointing. My nephew gave me Weezy and I been bumpin it the past couple of days. IMO the shyt was wack and all the best verses came from the features. Carter 2 is Weezy’s classic, but after that he switched over to that hashtag rap and all his beats started sounding the same, it’s been downhill ever since.
    Weezy ain’t fvckin with Jay on no rap shyt though. It’s like putting a comedian that crafts jokes against one that just jumps on stage and rides people in the crowd.

  36. 36
    MzDimplez1123 says:

    Anybody heard the Game’s cd? I hear it’s better than KanJay’s and Weezy’s

  37. 37
    KDub says:

    I purchased two copies of Mr. Carter’s album. One for my 16 yo and one for me.

    And NOPE. I’m not talking about Shawn Carter’s album either. :coffee:

  38. 38
    CFREE says:

    @SAMYELL, ur on to sum.. the best songs on the Carter are the features tho :yes:

  39. 39
    Daisy says:

    @MzD I heard the same abt Games cd.

    @cfree I like track 2 and the song w/Rick ross I GOTTA CHOPPER IN the CAR :dance: I also like Mr President and the song w/ J Legend

  40. 40
    Dymond says:

    Neither Watch the Throne nor Carter 4 are classics :coffee:

    JayZ’s lyrics were sub-par, Kanye’s beats left more to be desired but Kanye can sooooo get it right now and for some reason something deep down inside of me wants to say Baby can get it too :blink: pray for me yall
    Carter 4 was straight, love Wayne’s wordplay even though Drake and Nikki have worn it out by now

    Hey Cfreeda!!!!!! :dance:

  41. 41

    @samyell
    curious to what verses you think are weak on WTT

    @mzdimples
    i think the game cd is better than weezy album but not watch the throne. it plays as a much more cohesive album but it just has too many features for me to give full credit.

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    MzDimplez1123 says:

    Anybody heard the Game’s cd? I hear it’s better than KanJay’s and Weezy’s
    ____________________

    I heard that, too, but I didn’t cop it, tho.

  43. 43
    kingstonn says:

    @ Dimpz
    Ur bff has Red Nation and he says its really really good. He also has Carter 4 and plays the shxt everydamnday. But I’m biased, so that will never be better than a Kanye Cd. :shrug:

  44. 44
    Dymond says:

    and Wayne’s lil azz is violent, which we already knew but damn this ninja steady talking about kidnapping folks and throwing them over bridges (reminds me of Biggie)
    and I like the song where he allegedly talks about JayZ

  45. 45
    CFREE says:

    :cosign: Daisy

    Heeyyyyy DYMOND!!! :hug:

    I don’t think I gave WTT a fair try maybe I’ll pop it back in and try again, but i didnt have to do that with Weezy :shrug:

  46. 46
    kingstonn says:

    but of course I like the songs on Wayne’s cd that have Drake on it. again, I’m biased so… :lol:

  47. 47
    MzDimplez1123 says:

    Jay! :kiss: would that be Jay numero dos? :shrug:

    Where you been? I haven’t seen your font across my phone in DAYS! :wail:

    Gawjus gravi by the way. :yes:

  48. 48
    CFREE says:

    :blink: Dymond iz u aiight :pray:

    :lol:

  49. 49
    MzDimplez1123 says:

    I think the beats or songs on Weezay’s cd are just catchier even if not as lyrically advanced as WTT. I think that was my problem with WTT, I couldn’t get into the music enough to pay attention. :shrug:

  50. 50
    MzDimplez1123 says:

    @ Dymond….Don’t let me start hearing no Trina-ish rumors about chu! She was supposedly smanging Baby and Weezy. :no:

  51. 51
    MissHarlem says:

    Welp as usual EAST says what I want too in regards to music so nathan for me to say and if there was SAM done said it too

  52. 52
    CFREE says:

    Gonna have to check out The Games Cd, i will probably get turnt on listening to it :think: yep, im sure of it :hump:

  53. 53
    renegadesince1985 says:

    I ain’t bought neither of them….

    I like a couple tracks off WTT…Made in America and Niggaz in Paris

    I’ve NEVER bought a weezy album…he’s trash IMO. That How To Love song is THE WORST!!!!!!! :crying: <<<me when it comes on the radio.

    Shyt kills my braincells… :no:

  54. 54
    KDub says:

    Anybody heard the Game’s cd? I hear it’s better than KanJay’s and Weezy’s
    ____________________

    I heard that, too, but I didn’t cop it, tho.
    ——————————————–

    I ain’t like nah Left Coast rapper since Tupac and before him…Ice Cube (@MAN…HUSH)

  55. 55
    MissHarlem says:

    KINGSTONNNNN hey hun

  56. 56
    CFREE says:

    MZD #49 I think that was my deal with it, i just couldnt vibe to it

  57. 57
    renegadesince1985 says:

    @KDubb

    Google Kendrick Lamar…he’s west coast and my new fav rapper :thumbsup:

  58. 58
    kingstonn says:

    kita, :wail: i don’t know what gravi i have up. im mobile :/

    heyyyyyyyyyyy harlem! u going to carnival in Miami? i hear its a big deal..

  59. 59
    kingstonn says:

    i hate that how to love song too. shxt is TERRIBLE!

  60. 60

    @mzdimp
    i think you have to have a progressive musical taste to enjoy the WTT beats. they didnt get typical hiphop beats you expect to hear on say like a little wayne album. your musical taste would have to expand far beyond hiphop and r&b for the most part id say to enjoy them. but musically its no comparison.

  61. 61
    MzDimplez1123 says:

    Hey Freezy! I can give it another go though. I will also say that for me, music isn’t always about depth and being perfectly on key on all that, sometimes, it’s just about having fun or the emotion and such behind a song. :shrug:

    #IDon’tCareIfYallJudgeMe :lol:

  62. 62
    Dymond says:

    @ Dimpz :nono: u dont have to worry about me pulling a Trina…Wayne could neva get it

    I liked Niggas in Paris too and I fvcking hate How to Love but I caught myself singing it the other day…damn inception

    Hey KDub ooooooh Ice Cube :hump: allday errday howeva whereva

  63. 63
    Lovely One says:

    Who left the thrown unattended :coffee:

    *shade thrown to Jay Z, not Kanye…I luvs Kanye*

  64. 64
    SamYell JacksEm says:

    @Dimpz :hug:
    No one cares about Game unless they’re from the west coast mostly. Dude has always been an extremely average rapper who repped the west when the west ain’t have nobody so they propped him up and gave him good beats.

    @East
    1) Niggas in Paris – when he used that old Michael Jordan/Jackson/Tyson shyt.
    2) What you need – pretty much the whole song
    I could go on…… and I like Jay’s music
    I fvcks with Weezy too but when people say he’s the best I be feeling like Mugatu on Zoolander (I think I been takin crazy pills)
    That nigga said “I’m so rich, they should call me Richard” <—people say that shyts genius. :shrug: :hahaha:

  65. 65
    MzDimplez1123 says:

    @ Kingston….You semi profile slightly puckering lips

  66. 66
    Dymond says:

    eastpointvet says:
    i think you have to have a progressive musical taste to enjoy the WTT beats. they didnt get typical hiphop beats you expect to hear on say like a little wayne album. your musical taste would have to expand far beyond hiphop and r&b for the most part id say to enjoy them. but musically its no comparison.
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
    true not typical….BUT the beats werent that HOT :coffee:

  67. 67
    MzDimplez1123 says:

    Ice Cube! :cheer:

    @ Sam….Is that what it is? I’ll give it a listen anyway. :hug:

  68. 68
    MzDimplez1123 says:

    @ EPV…Thanks you for the analogy. I think i’d still rather have the music “grab” me though.

  69. 69
    CFREE says:

    MZD,Kingston,Harlem :hi: chica’s MZD ION care neither long az im JAM’N
    :dance:

  70. 70
    MissHarlem says:

    KINGSTON girl I am still getting over BK this weekend. I will be all over next month so Miami I will miss :wail: . Miami Carnival is a big deal though

  71. 71
    renegadesince1985 says:

    That nigga said “I’m so rich, they should call me Richard” <—people say that shyts genius

    Boggles my flucking mind when ppl say he's the best…like really?? :shrugs:

  72. 72
    CFREE says:

    :hahaha: @SAMYELL, ION thank hiz azz genius he is clever tho on the word play and summa that chit be having me laughing :lol: <<< while listening

  73. 73
    !*LaKErCHiC@*! says:

    IM LISTENING TO IT RIGHT NOW!!! :yes:
    I C THE GUILT BENEATH THE SHAME
    I C UR SOUL THRU UR WINDOW PAIN
    I C THE SCARS THAT REMAIN… ALL I C IS WAYNE…
    IM LOOKING AT THE MIRROR ON THE WALL :whistle: I LOOVE BRUNO IN THIS SONG!!
    OH AND TPAIN SONG GO HARD TOO!!! U TOUGHT ME HOW TO HATE A BYTCH!
    … AND WHO ACTUALLY THOUGTH JAY WAS GOING TO SELL MORE THAN WAYNE :shrug:
    #waynefbabyandthefisforfuku

  74. 74
    MissHarlem says:

    CFREEEEE heyy hun :2dance: to lukes I wanna rock

  75. 75
    SamYell JacksEm says:

    @Dimpz
    I wasn’t trying to throw shade on Game, I honestly think dude isn’t garbage, he just isn’t great either. But i’ve heard good shyt about his album.
    As far as the beats from Weezy nem, shyt sounds like reggaeton, where it’s the same beat essentially over and over again. Only time it grabs me is when I’m too :blunt: or :koolaid: to be really paying attention. But if I’m riding in the car and ain’t partyin or headin to one I like to hear some shyt that makes you think a little.

  76. 76

    @sam
    lol but thats one line the rest of niggas in paris was hot

    on gotta have it(what u need) just this line alone murders “Cause I’m richer, and pryor to this **** was movin’ freebase” that is if you get hte word play in that line

    @dymond
    i think they hot but im really into the musical element of music and people who really value the music element love the musical element of that album. some people just like something to make them bob their heads and i like some music for that.

  77. 77
    CFREE says:

    Harlem, one of my fav songs of all time! :2dance:

  78. 78
    MissHarlem says:

    “Im so Rich they should call me Richard :lol: lawwwwdddddd he had to be higher than a kite with that chit. It actually tickles me to even say that line.

  79. 79
    CFREE says:

    I MISS ATL BOOTY SHAKE MUSIC :( #RANDOMTHOUGHTS

  80. 80
    MzDimplez1123 says:

    @ Awesome…I didn’t think you were throwing shade. I sometimes just sit and listen to *noise* sometimes though and certain artists give me that. It’s a beautiful thing when you’re on a treadmill. :yes:

  81. 81

    lol i just noticed i have that exact same red monkey shirt birdman has on in that pic lmao

  82. 82
    !*LaKErCHiC@*! says:

    SO NO ONE LIKIE WAYNE IV?? :shrug: I LIKES IT… :shrug:

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    KDub says:

    I disagree about the beats on WTT @EPV. I didn’t buy it. But I have heard it. I am a beats girl. I have also said I have a very eclectic musical taste (I listen to it all). And the beats on WTT were good. They were not innovative though…JMO :shrug: One Neptune beat is the same as the next. Same for Swizz and Bobby Digital (RZA). A Neptunes beat comes on and I KNOW its Pharrell. Again JMO.

  84. 84
    CFREE says:

    WHO is dude in the background? He looks familiar, can’t put my finger on it.. looks like he sux a mean one tho :blink:

  85. 85
    !*LaKErCHiC@*! says:

    A Neptunes beat comes on and I KNOW its Pharrell. Again JMO.

    ^^^ so true u can tell when its pharrell!

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    cheeks8683 says:

    I can’t wait for the new DMX album myself
    ___________________________________________________

    *record stops* he’s out of prison? I mean he is back and forth so much I cant keep up…

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    SamYell JacksEm says:

    @East
    But that’s the thing, Jay ain’t supposed to have no lines like that. You know everyone will notice. Weezy can get away it…..obviously……Jay supposed to be better than that. I’ve had this convo on facebook with my cousin and nephew for the past few weeks so I KNOW WHAT YOU’RE SAYING.

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    CivilEngineer says:

    !*LaKErCHiC@*! says:

    SO NO ONE LIKIE WAYNE IV?? :shrug: I LIKES IT… :shrug:
    ——————————————
    I like what I’ve heard so far, Lakes. I’m a Kanye fan, so I Wayne is just a hype man to my ears

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    CivilEngineer says:

    @cheeks…I thought he was still in for drug/gun charges :shrug:

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    KDub says:

    Best Lil Wayne lyrics…

    Real G’s move in silence like lasagna.
    I don’t want a broken heart because I’ll lose the pieces.
    See my world is different, like Dwayne Wayne.
    Even Gwen Stefani said she couldn’t doubt me. (that one might be my fave)
    I’ma ‘King’ you can ask ‘Steven’
    I’m the bomb like – tick. tick.
    Hip-hop aint dead it just had a heart attack

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    Ace says:

    *rushes home and adds Game Red Album to his Dropbox*

    :coffee:

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    cheeks8683 says:

    I can’t wait for the new DMX album myself
    ___________________________________________________

    *record stops* he’s out of prison? I mean he is back and forth so much I cant keep up…
    _________________

    Like TI??? :lol: X got out in July, but then got arrested up in August for speeding (over 100 mph), no license, etc.

  93. 93
    Dymond says:

    @ East
    WTT beats werent that “innovative” to me…I actually expected some off the charts, futuristic chit :shrug:

    and it seemed like Jay was off on some of those songs like he couldnt match the beat or something

  94. 94

    @kdub
    i agree the neptunes beat you can tell its neptunes but that is still one of their better beats. i dont think neither of swizz beats songs on the album was typical swizz even though welcome to the jungle has him on the chorus and you can tell its him the beat itself is not typical of him. and murder to excellence is def not a typical swizzy track. a song like who gon stop me is not a typical american hiphop track and their are a number of others. sonically the album varies. something like carter IV you get the same feel from mostly all the tracks on the album

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    !*LaKErCHiC@*! says:

    @CIVIL OMG :kiss: WERE U BEEN DANG IT!! :2dance:

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    Zoe B. says:

    I always wonder how white people sing the songs when there are so many N bombs on Lil Wayne’s album

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    @sam
    the line in itself is not wack though its just you heard jay say something similar had wayne said the exact same thing it would have been a hot line. but at the same time you gotta think of the content from that song its suppose to be more of a fun record and one of the few thats on the album.

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    Dymond says:

    Hey Laker :kiss: :2dance:

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    KDub says:

    and it seemed like Jay was off on some of those songs like he couldnt match the beat or something
    ———————————————————–
    His old geriatric azz was tryna catch his breath…like his wife said… the beat made him lose his breath…

    Jay Z is gonna be 55 years old, with an inhaler…on stage promoting the Blueprint 15_Volume 18 in 2025.

    Throwing up the Roc sign….only its gonna look flickted cause his arthritis gonna be flared up.

  100. 100
    iscream says:

    I knew YOU would be up in this post waving your flag….. :coffee:

    Congrats to Wayne. Some doubted you could do it again. AND you did it AFTER your album leaked.

    SN: when an artist stops making music for their fans its time to retire. Just saying

    I didn’t buy or listen to either album. I like How to love and I like the BEAT/Hook for Otis.

    Jay can still get it tho. :hump:

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    Ms.Fashion says:

    I don’t know yall, I haven’t really dealt with JayZ since the Black album, I like Kanye flow better.

    But I can always count on Wayne to give some hot ass bars!!!

    Yall know that is the truth!!!

    JayZ is just an old ass Unlce still trying to keep glory….time to change some diapers!!! :whistle:

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    Ms.Fashion says:

    oops meant Uncle!!!

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    Dymond says:

    :dead: @ flickted

    #countryazhell

  104. 104
    MzDimplez1123 says:

    @ Dymond….she was wrong as hell for that flickted shyt. :rofl:

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    cheeks8683 says:

    Although I beleive all men over the age of 18 are considered to be grown legally and should wear their pants properly, its easier to accept Wayne and his youthful antics since he is what 27 or 28? Jay Z is like 42 and will be collecting social security soon

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    CivilEngineer says:

    :lol: Hey Lakes!! I’m not working on anything at work right now so I’m here! How have you been??

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    Dymond says:

    cheeks8683 says:
    Jay Z is like 42 and will be collecting social security soon
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    oooooooooh I guess all you 40+ folks heard that lmaoooo why Im laughing I just hope there will be SS left for me by the time I need it

  108. 108
    goat76 says:

    You ni$$as’ jeans too tight
    You colors too bright, your voice too light. -DOA

    On another level, on another plane already
    H-O-V, I got my own lane, already (already)
    ..I done cooked up “The Roc” already. – Already Home

    This **** need a verse from Jeezy
    I might send this to the mixtape Weezy
    Get somebody from BMF to talk on this
    Give this to a blood, let a crip walk on it
    Fifty thou’ to style on this
    I just don’t need nobody to smile on this
    You niggas singing too much
    Get back to rap you t-paining too much. -DOA

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    iscream says:

    DEAD at Goat making an entrance

    HEyyyyyyyy ol head….

    Him and East about to tag team up in here. :lol:

    :popcorn:

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    Daisy says:

    @east 808 was artistic too

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    SamYell JacksEm says:

    @East
    I say the same thing about folks hearin Jay lines with another voice.
    And on the age thing, I never hear anybody tell Bun B or any other older rapper besides Jay to sit down. IJS

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    QuettaV says:

    Waiting for Ja-Rule to be released and shut this rap gams doooowwwnnnn!

    :bowdown:

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    KDub says:

    @ Dymond….she was wrong as hell for that flickted shyt.
    #countryazhell
    ————————————————————-
    His shyt gonna be looking like it do when you make a heart with your hands. Trying desperately to throw a Roc sign up.

    And yall LUCKY my country azz did nat say…illy-formed.

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    KDub says:

    and it seemed like Jay was off on some of those songs like he couldnt match the beat or something
    ———————————————————–
    His old geriatric azz was tryna catch his breath…like his wife said… the beat made him lose his breath…

    Jay Z is gonna be 55 years old, with an inhaler…on stage promoting the Blueprint 15_Volume 18 in 2025.

    Throwing up the Roc sign….only its gonna look flickted cause his arthritis gonna be flared up.
    ____________________

    :dead: as hail!!!!!

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    iscream says:

    I don’t know why y’all not waiting for MC Gusto album “straight outta Lo Cash and Sweat from my balls. Dope songs”… His shyt be John Blaze…

    Wait speaking of John Blaze. I saw Method Man do a free style at a radio station over seas a few weeks back.

    BABY!!!!!!!! HE KILLED THAT SHYT! Muah with his sexy self.

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    cheeks8683 says:

    Waiting for Ja-Rule to be released and shut this rap gams doooowwwnnnn!
    _____________________________________________________________

    He took the lil kim route and is filling orders vis pay pal…His team of workers (wifey and kids) are in the living room filling orders as we speak….all 20 of them.

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    goat76 says:

    What up Iscream?!?!? Yeah, I had to make an entrance. I give Weezy his credit, but he ain’t sniffing Jay’s S.Carters when it comes to this rapping. LOL@music sales being the measuring stick for good quality music.

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    KDub says:

    I want somebody to name ONE relevant rapper that is over 45.

    Jay-Z is going to be the guest of honor at VH1 Hip Hop Honors 14 in 2021. He gonna perform “Who Ya Wit” from the Sprung soundtrack and wear that outfit from the video.

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    KDub says:

    :wave: hey Goat.

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    MzDimplez1123 says:

    @ KDubb…………….Log off and take yo ass home @ Who Ya Wit

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    SamYell JacksEm says:

    I want somebody to name ONE relevant rapper that is over 45.
    __________________________________________________
    Exactly. I’m a hip hop head and as long as he has something to say I want him to keep doin it. That type of thinking devalues hip hop/rap as a music genre. If Aretha came out with some new music and it was good you wouldn’t tell her to sit down, would you?

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    @daisy
    808 was an R&b album and only kanye project i didnt buy but thats more of a side project

    i find it funny that people like to mention jay age. its plenty of rappers in the upper 30s lower 40s but none of them are talked about for being old. guess when you on top they gotta find things to talk about. i also find it even crazier that baby likes to mention jay z age when he is older than jay z and still tries to rap. the difference is jay can actually rap.

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    KDub says:

    Okay @Dimpz…he gonna perform “Can’t Knock The Hustle”

    And Mary J.’s azz who is gonna be JUST as geriatric as HE will be by then…is gonna be up there on stage looking like Etta James sanging the hook.

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    MzDimplez1123 says:

    :rofl: I’m not fuggin witchu no mo. :nono: You gone have my ass fiyad and I bet your youngest kid won’t even let me sleep my homeless ass on your couch.

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    KDub says:

    I’m a hip hop head…That type of thinking devalues hip hop/rap as a music genre. If Aretha came out with some new music and it was good you wouldn’t tell her to sit down, would you?
    —————————————————–
    If Kurtis Blow came out with some new music and it was good would we tell Kurt to stop playin?

    Signed,

    Fellow Hip Hop Head

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    KDub says:

    upper 30s lower 40s but none of them are talked about for being old.
    —————————————————
    Marshall is aging.
    Trevor is aging.
    James (LL) already aged.
    Calvin aging too.

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    @kdub
    the difference is kurtis blow aint did nothing in 25 years. jay never stopped being one of the top rappers over the span of his career which has never been done in hiphop. but if it happened to be good i would listen.

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    SamYell JacksEm says:

    @Kdub
    Probably not. It would likely end up being a cd that I only played when I was by myself, I have a couple of those. :shrug: But he lost his relevance decades ago. Jay still has it because apparently he’s the benchmark in hip hop and he hasn’t stopped yet.
    I’d hate to see Wayne get old and still be rappin… “Niggas wonder when my new **** coming, Depends” :hahaha:

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    KDub says:

    the difference is kurtis blow aint did nothing in 25 years. jay never stopped being one of the top rappers over the span of his career

    ———————————
    Okay. Point taken. Imma play on the keywords of “one of”…Here is a better example. When Snoop came out with Malice in Wonderland a year or two ago…who de fugg listened? Didn’t folks for the most part say have your azz a SEAT Calvin >>>>?

    Same for LL and “Exit” back in 2008-09…

    Same for Trevor and “Back on My BS”….

    Weren’t all these folks at one point considered by some…”one of” the top rappers…

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    goat76 says:

    Hey Kuzzin K-weezy!!!!

    Can’t really think of anybody over 45 and relevant. But here are some of the ages of some of the OG’s that’s still in the game somewhat.
    Just added Biggie and Tupac to show their ages. But age ain’t nuthin but a number.

    Dr. Dre -46
    Too Short -45
    E-40 -43
    Birdman -42
    Ice Cube -42
    Jay-Z -41
    Redman -41
    Raekwon-41
    Ghostface -41
    Tupac -40
    Method Man -40
    Biggie -39

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    Nhere says:

    :rofl: :hahaha: why did I just pay attention to Secret’s gravi

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    Daisy says:

    I disgree w/this BS abt having to have some deep musical taste to appreciate WTT :rolleyes: #chileboo music is music u either like it or u don’t so not that deep. I will rock to the 4 songs I like on WTT and will rock to Weezys entire cd

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    Yall still crazy says:

    Whoopti Dooo :coffee:

    I didn’t buy either of their albums :shrug:

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    Yall still crazy says:

    On Goat’s 130 list, the following could get it (real good):

    Method Man
    Too Short
    Cube

    IJS, DJM…

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    KDub says:

    I :love: Goat’s list…except Birdman’s funn-ty looking azz. :no:

    * I’ll take Funk Dr. Spock and The Iron Lung for $500…Fukk dat I am taking everybody listed for the Wu for $750. :yahoo:

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    @kdub
    still a difference snoop came out hot but he never been in that elite class of top rappers. LL, snoop, cube, almost everybody on goat list fell off at some point. jay never really experienced that. he is for all purposes most folks favorite rapper favorite rapper. jay is on 12 number 1 albums in a row most of the older rappers got maybe 4 at max.

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    CFREE says:

    I’d hate to see Wayne get old and still be rappin… “Niggas wonder when my new **** coming, Depends”

    _______________________________________________________________________

    :dead: :rofl:

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    CFREE says:

    Hey Ya’ll :2dance:

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    Daisy says:

    I disgree w/this BS abt having to have some deep musical taste to appreciate WTT #chileboo music is music u either like it or u don’t so not that deep. I will rock to the 4 songs I like on WTT and will rock to Weezys entire cd
    __________________________________

    I :cosign: the hell outta this, except the songs on WTT and Weezy’s album (cuz I ain’t heard Weezy’s album yet)

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    :waves: @ Yall and whoopti doo :lol:

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    Yall still crazy says:

    Cfree :yahoo:

    *whispers* Rakim could get it too…

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    KDub says:

    I Goat’s list…except Birdman’s funn-ty looking azz.

    * I’ll take Funk Dr. Spock and The Iron Lung for $500…Fukk dat I am taking everybody listed for the Wu for $750.
    _________________________________

    #word

    And Meth could still get it each and erry way he want it. :yes: :hump:

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    Yall still crazy says:

    *smacks Unpredictables boobies* :hug: :wink:

    :waves: Hey Choc! (that was the PG version of what I wanted to type) :lol:

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    Why is this even a debate regarding JayZ vs. Wayne, when folks do happen to have different tastes in music? :shrugs:

    #carryon

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    Yall still crazy says:

    :boobs:

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    @Unpredictamirs

    That’s y I didn’t even comment on this crap cuz I didn’t buy either one of their CD’s and never has

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    Yall still crazy says:

    Hey yall, this weekend I heard the Hardest Roughneck argue that those legging pants that Wayne had on were from his line”

    I was looking like—& so now what, it’s ok, it’s cool? :dead:

    #ifearwhatouryoungmenwilllooklikeinfifteenyears

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    KDub says:

    I like Jay. Alot actually. I just don’t think WTT is THAT great of an album. IMO Jay-Z has maybe two more good albums left in him. Yes he is one of the greatest who ever did it. But I am one of the folks who STILL think years later Jay got lucky via the demise of two OTHA folks. At that time won’t nobody checking for him to the point they would not even let Mary BE in the fuggin video for “Can’t Knock The Hustle”…And yes I DO know he was around BEFORE then…so if anybody say ONE thing about “Ah no Kdub…he he had Hawaiian Sophie” I am QUITTING LIFE.

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    @daisy
    your musical taste is off lol. if you can listen to wayne ramble on about nothing for 19 tracks then more power 2 you. i didnt say you have to have a deep musical taste to appreciate watch the throne. i said that those who do are more likely to take to the album.

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    Pikaso says:

    So Sandra, I guess you didnt ask Birdman about letting us have some of the cds he bought…
    __________________

    I don’t even know that man :lol:

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    iscream says:

    @ Kwall

    Don’t forget to mention that him getting with Bey also helped him get to the level he’s at. (That’s my opinion so East ~> _/ park it)

    And if DMX got his azz away from that demon things would be a lot different for Jay today.. :shrugs:

    Not taking anything from Jay bc he played his cards right and deserve what he got…

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    MsPretTiTi says:

    Thats cause WTT was all hype, two arrogant nigz on the Mic.
    ________________

    I totally agree. I blame the other blogs for gassing their heads up. But I feel for Kanye. He couldn’t go platinum alone or with Jay Z :no:

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    KeyshKeysh says:

    Im sorry but aint nothing Wayne got out right now hot…he is with out a doubt garbage as well as the last Carter album…folks delusional…
    ________________
    :applause: I see new people :D

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    iscream says:

    @Daisy

    Don’t listen to East his musical taste is Bias. Jay can’t do no wrong in his eyes. You know he’s the one who sold Weezy those Jeggins because he made that diss line about Jay. <>

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    iscream says:

    Can I see the non mobile site please and thank you. Tired of having to submit two and three times just to post once.

    Maybe its just me who can’t get out of it

    :shrugs:

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    @Kdub
    i say the demise of 1. pac wouldnt count really his personality really carried him and his music. so if big was still here i think jay could have possibly been better. i think big is the only one who is an artist on the same level of jay. and what i mean is he considered a top lyricist, with crossover appeal. jay aint really had nobody that was really on his level when it came to that besides biggie so when he died he didnt have nobody to really try to outdo. when you compare jay albums you compare them to jay albums. if big was around you could compare them to each other and i think the friendly competition would have made both them stop their game up.

    @iscream
    jay moved 5 million albums long before Bey came along. she may have upped his worldwide celebrity but definitely not anything to do with hiphop

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    LuvnMeIzEz2Do says:

    Daisy says:

    I don’t get caught up into sales if I like a cd I like a cd that being said congrats to Wayne
    _______________________________________________________________________

    Agreed!!! I don’t get caught up in the numbers I just know when I like something then I speak from the heart… Loves Weezy and his album is Fi-Fi-Fiyah straight up!

    Loves Jay and Ye too and their album is f-f-fiyah… straight up!

    Honestly speaking Wayne has the same PLUS a whole different set/group of people that he touches with his music. That would probably be why he has the higher numbers.

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    Jay Bee says:

    #504 whodat… u see that Avi pic.. Nawlins

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