A McDonald’s cashier is in hot water after beating two unruly female customers with a metal rod, according to DNAinfo.com.

The two women, one a Stud and the other a femme, were seriously injured following a physical altercation with cashier Rayon McIntosh, 31, at the West 3rd Street restaurant in Greenwich Village, NY early Thursday.

The video, shot by a customer, shows Denise Darbeau, 24, of Queens, and her friend, Rachel Edwards, 24, of Brooklyn — arguing loudly with McIntosh after he told them he had to authenticate their $50 bill. Darbeau and Edwards reached over the counter and slapped McIntosh, who shoved them back.

Both women then leapt over the counter and approached McIntosh who took them both out with a metal rod.

A customer can be heard screaming “STOOOOP!” “CALL THE POLICE!” as McIntosh (pictured above in blue cap) continued to beat the women who lay wounded on the floor of the restaurant. Darbeau (the Stud) got the worst of it. McIntosh beat her so badly she suffered a cracked skull and a broken arm.

The beating ended when a male co-worker wrestled the metal rod out of McIntosh’s hands.

Both women were taken to a nearby hospital where Darbeau required surgery. They were each charged with menacing, trespassing and disorderly conduct.

McIntosh was taken into custody and is being held on $40,000 bail. He has a history of violence and was recently released from prison after serving a 10 year prison sentence for shooting and killing a high school classmate. McIntosh shot Oshan Litchmore, 17, following an argument when he was 19. The fatal bullet passed through Litchmore and hit an 8-year-old passerby in the leg.

“I don’t know him as that type of person,” McIntosh’s step-mother told DNAinfo.

The owner of the McDonald’s franchise, Carmen Paulino, said that McIntosh “no longer works for my organization.”




  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xJewNV_LhnE&feature=player_embedded Zoe B.

    That was disturbing. Those guys just standing there laughing as they lay on the ground defenseless getting hit with a metal rod. Does anyone care about anyone these days? Everything isn’t funny. Effing lames.

  • Nita-No-Clothes

    Wow :no: That was really disturbing. Why she jumped over that counter is beyond me. They worker seems like he just snapped!

  • http://sandrarose.com Sandra Rose

    To be honest, I laughed out loud the first time I saw this video. Then I showed it to my mom and we both laughed hysterically. We agreed that the two chicks should not have jumped the counter. It wasn’t until I read about their injuries that I felt sorry for them 🙁

  • Nita-No-Clothes

    *The worker

    I’m with you Zoe, and I can’t even stomach watching the more visual brutality like the video of the “thugs” hitting that defenseless woman 🙁 It’s really sad that stuff like this is really becoming regular occurrences.

  • Zephyr1979

    A little patience goes a long way. You never know who you’re going up against so it’s always best to try and remain calm in these types of situations. Dude looks like he just snapped. Not saying that these females deserved it but that is something you have to consider before you try and get over on somebody, especially somebody you don’t know.

  • Nita-No-Clothes

    @Sandra….. I don’t know, it is just something about seeing someone get hurt that messes with me….especially if they are defenseless. I didn’t see the girl touch the guy, but at the same time he didn’t know if she had a gun or a knife or some other type of weapon and could hurt him. But I do think that he went way overboard hitting her while she was down….her and the other girl.

  • aaron

    Those woman got what they deserved. IMO, this is self defense. They had no right to leap over that counter and attack him.

  • http://sandrarose.com Sandra Rose

    Nita-No-Clothes says:

    I didn’t see the girl touch the guy
    ________________

    Did you watch the entire video? They both slapped the guy before he shoved them back. Then he ran as they both jumped over the counter. None of this would have happened if they stayed on their side of the counter. That’s why the women were both charged with trespassing.

  • buddapecan

    People are indeed crazy. But if you come to my job, house or around my kids with that foolishness, expect “Miss Betty” to sing you to sleep. #teamlicesenedtocarryconcealedweapon

    :coffee: <—- Sleepytime Green Tea

  • http://sandrarose.com Sandra Rose

    aaron says:

    Those woman got what they deserved. IMO, this is self defense. They had no right to leap over that counter and attack him.
    _________________

    I agree. And once again we have a female trying to act like a male and getting her azz handed to her. :no:

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xJewNV_LhnE&feature=player_embedded Zoe B.

    So Rick Ross just had ANOTHER seizure on his way to perform and had to do ANOTHER emergency plane landing. He needs to rest. I hope he is doing O.K. Risking your life to be at a Wing Stop opening? :no:

  • AndThenIHitMyDougie

    Sooooo….they argued with him for doing his job. Then assualted him (slapped him) for doing his job. Then after he only SHOVED them, they decided to take it a step further and hop over a counter to attack him (I’m sure they didn’t hop the counter just to hug him & shake his hand. :eyeroll: )

    Soooo…… is it wrong that I don’t think he should’ve got arrested? This is a prime example of what happens when these ghetto hoodrats who think they can do whatever and not be “touched” try to play puzzy and end up gettng fukked.

    I can’t believe some of y’all feel sorry for these broads. They harassed, harangue and assaulted this man for trying to do his job and y’all are blaming him for preserving his self when these hoodrats came at him? WTF? If more of these fools knew they could get their skulls cracked, they may be more civil! These hoodrat tried to jump up and got beat down. Oh well. Lesson learned.

    I bet they’ll be civil, kind patrons from now on and won’t ever even THINK about getting over another counter.

    Serves them right. Charge it to the game. :coffee:

  • lite coffee

    In no way am I condoning this beat down, but they got what they were looking for. Never you under estimate anybody. Anybody can snap at any time. They probably thought he was a punk and step to him, and that’s exactly what he wanted to show them, that he was not a punk.

  • http://www.ashland86.com TheRealAshland

    …Rick Ross had another seizure… maybe the altitude is to much for his lungs,.. i mean seriously all that weight on his chest and the pressure iono brain something.

  • lashellebelle

    Damn… Something STAYS going on at McDonald’s!
    I guess it’s in the sauce…

    DIdn’t watch the video yet, but I’m all for a) self defense b) gettin’ ur ass handed to you if you’re out of line.

    I’m going to go kick it at Burger King for awhile. I don’t ever hear about any drama coming from there.

  • http://sandrarose.com Sandra Rose

    When you’re making minimum wage and a customer slaps you, that’s grounds to snap on that customer IMO. Slapping people and jumping over counters gets you put in check quickly. :coffee:

  • AndThenIHitMyDougie

    :cosign: BuddaPecan, Aaron & Sandra.

    It ain’t even about females attacking males or vice versa. Come at me in a violent matter and its straight “survival of the fittest” around here. Let the cards fall where they may. :coffee:

    I hope homegirl with the cracked skulls makes it out okay but had she kept her simple ass on the other side of the counter….or better yet, had she kept her hands to herself in the first place, she could home eating her mcnugget meal with her skull still whole.

    #JustBeingHonest
    #DontShootTheMessenger

  • http://www.ashland86.com TheRealAshland

    no way did i laugh, dude is a psycho ,… that’s why i don’t mess we folk i don’t know

  • rockstar

    Sandra I don’t feel sorry for them. You know why, because you never underestimate anyone. He had no idea what those women are capable of. When we sit back and look at a situation we can analyze it to death, but when you’re involved in it all you’re thinking of is protecting your life. They had no business jumping over that counter like that. It’s funny cause the Dom was like “do something”. Well it looks like he did more than something.

  • AndThenIHitMyDougie

    Lastly- I dunno why people always try to go at fast food workers and janitors. They work too hard, for no money, usually hate their jobs and are already enough stress. It would make sense to me that they are more liable to nut up on you then any other type of worker. Does it not? I try to keep it extra cute with anybody who I know is making under $30K a year. They won’t be on “Snapped” cause of me!

    Folks musta forgot about what happened at the post office that one time, huh? :coffee:

  • AndThenIHitMyDougie

    *already under enough stress

    And I see Sandra had already said the same thing.

  • TruGemini

    I’m sorry but they shouldn’tve had they asses back there. Point blank period! :coffee:

  • vero

    Good evening people…
    The metal rod beating was a lot but they looked for it !

  • thatgurljenny96

    I don’t feel bad for them at all. I actually laughed when I watched the video. Bet you they wont be jumping over any more counters at fast food places. If I were him, I would have let them beat me up then sue the store & micky d’s corporation :shrugs:

  • organicgrl

    I’m sorry I am not going into of his criminal past, but I think he had every right to pick that rod up..He had to protect himself as she came behind that counter and that was the first thing he could grab. Hope he have a good attorney to claim self defense, but I don’t know what he can say for continually beaten her when she was on the ground.

  • http://sandrarose.com Sandra Rose

    Did you see the femme put her arm around the Stud to encourage her at the 8 second mark in the video? These femmes aren’t happy until they get a Stud killed. Studs think they’re hard because of that Stud mentality, but they’re really soft and fragile like the confused women that they are. :no:

  • DragonLeo

    I’m really starting to believe tgat they are putting something in McDonald’s food that make people act a Gawd Damn Fool in their establishments. Video and video of people acting violent when it comes to McDonald’s. #conspiracy

  • DragonLeo

    I saw a chick going HAM at the drive-thru window last week over hi-c. Dead serious got out the car ready to fight!

  • http://sandrarose.com Sandra Rose

    organicgrl says:

    but I don’t know what he can say for continually beaten her when she was on the ground.
    ___________________

    He was beating both of them as they lay on the floor. First he beat the Stud. Then he stepped back to the femme and it looked like he was saying to her, “you want some more?” Then he started beating her too. That’s the part that made me laugh out loud. But now I don’t think it’s funny. :no:

  • lashellebelle

    Who the hell gets mad that their money has to be authenticated? I go places & get my bills marked all the time.
    Sounds like they went to McDonald’s w/ Monopoly money!

  • AndThenIHitMyDougie

    I hope that femme is at the hospital with her “stud” with her arm wrapped that girls head to help her skull heal then.

    I can’t with some of the foolish folks in the world today. I don’t give a damn about his past- I’m mad he got arrested on some CLEAR self-defense crap.

  • Nita-No-Clothes

    @Auntie

    I did watch it the first time, but I did miss that part. I just watched it again though and you’re right. As much as I hate to say it, they got what they deserved…. 1st for slapping the guy and B for Jumping over the counter to do what they thought would be getting the best of him.

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MbDWrnd29_I His_Mommy623

    McDonalds brings the worst out of niggas 😆

    bet them heffas will learn how to cook once this is over…smh

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xJewNV_LhnE&feature=player_embedded Zoe B.

    @Dougie True but he took it overboard. He KEPT GOING when they were on the ground DEFENSELESS, he beat them WAY PAST self defense!

    #ithinkmochaisposessingme #gotmetypingcaps

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MbDWrnd29_I His_Mommy623

    oh i watched it again and he whooped the hot mustard sauce outta them heffas..

    i mean i hope the AG is all good but gawddamn he was tryna make a burger patty outta those two..

    #whenkeepingitrealgoeswrong :coffee:

  • EJLOVE

    Every damn bit…they deserved every damn bit of that ass whoppin…and the white lady screaming is making it worse…lady sit down… why should he stop so they can beat him? would if it was the other way around… they deserved it…

  • cute_BIG_gul

    I”m sorry he did go a bit far..but they made him snap….this is a lesson in keep ur hands to urself, u never know who and what ur dealing with, bet she won’t do that AGAIN….he should sue McDonalds for this.

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MbDWrnd29_I His_Mommy623

    not for nothing, but are they sure she didnt slip on some fry grease and hit her head becus that was a flimsy azz rod he was swinging.. IJS

  • http://www.ashland86.com TheRealAshland

    @sandra your not a stud or do you have a lesbian classification?

  • http://www.ashland86.com TheRealAshland

    you’re*

  • EJLOVE

    She LUCKY it was a metal rod and NOT some HOT ass FRY grease…and PERMANENTLY disfigured them…. people need to think…

  • I Run New York

    WOW He is pure evil! Thank goodness that customer was relentless. It seems like her screaming at him to stop and yelling for someone to call that cops caused the coward to stop.

    “Those woman got what they deserved. IMO, this is self defense.”

    Beating someone with a metal rod while they’re lying on the ground motionless is not self defense. It’s also incredibly cowardly.

  • http://sandrarose.com Sandra Rose

    @ I Run New York: if you watch the video again. He continues beating the femme chick even after the lady screams for him to stop. He doesn’t actually stop until the co-worker wrestles the rod away from him.

  • EJLOVE

    42 I strongly disagree…it was self defense…if someone comes into your home and attacks you…you beat them…are you evil? if someone comes to your job and attacks…like at the post office and you beat them before they hurt you are you coward? NO… get out of here…so what she was on the ground…she might have just been protecting her face… or reaching for something…This man is at least working and just trying to live after destroying his life and paying the price… then here come these two “gangstas” nothing cowardly about defending yourself…. so yea they deserved it.

  • http://sandrarose.com Sandra Rose

    @ TheRealAshland: I don’t attach labels to myself. I am comfortable in my skin. Life is hard enough without trying to be something I’m not.

  • aaron

    cute_BIG_gul says:

    I”m sorry he did go a bit far..but they made him snap….this is a lesson in keep ur hands to urself, u never know who and what ur dealing with, bet she won’t do that AGAIN….he should sue McDonalds for this.
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    Maybe he should get a lawyer and sue McDonalds for a hostile work environment. No one should be subjected to that kind of behavior – jumping over the counter!!!

  • I Run New York

    “The owner of the McDonald’s franchise, Carmen Paulino, said that McIntosh ‘no longer works for my organization.'”

    Kudos to the owner for firing this animal but WTF? does she not do background checks on her employees

    “McIntosh was taken into custody and is being held on $40,000 bail. He has a history of violence and was recently released from prison after serving a 10 year prison sentence for shooting and killing a high school classmate. ”

    SMH

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A0LpQ5XJzhQ Long Time Lurker

    Damn… Something STAYS going on at McDonald’s!
    I guess it’s in the sauce…
    —–————————————————-

    This shyt right here….. :rofl:

  • jazi65

    He definitely went too far..however we don’t know his history. what if he was in this situation before and he was the one that got his azz whooped? Could be that he thought “oh hell no not this time” and got them before they got him.

    #walkoverbutlimpback

  • aaron

    The DA needs to reload. Those women should be charged with assualt, amongest other things. They are lucky they didn’t leave wearing French Fry grease.

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A0LpQ5XJzhQ Long Time Lurker

    McDonalds brings the worst out of niggas
    bet them heffas will learn how to cook once this is over…smh
    ———————-———————

    I see y’all don’t behave after dark either. :no: :rofl:

  • EJLOVE

    Why he got be an animal? what about the animals that attacked him? am I the only one who seen the damn video? The owner of the franchise should have been more understanding… he probably was scared and lost it…

  • Ty

    I think he was clearly protecting himself. There is a similar video on the net where a teenager kept phucking with this older man on a bus. The teenager slapped the man and it took about 6 people to get the man off the child. The man was a war veteran and snapped completely.

    They should’ve stayed in their lanes. McIntosh would have to prove that he was still in danger while they were on the ground (i.e they were reaching in their pockets).

    #toomuchlawandorder

  • http://sandrarose.com Sandra Rose

    jazi65 says:

    what if he was in this situation before and he was the one that got his azz whooped?
    _________________

    You’re right. I’m sure he encountered many similar situations in the 10 years he spent behind bars for murder.

  • http://sandrarose.com Sandra Rose

    @ EJLOVE: I don’t think the owner watched the video or she would have seen a man protecting himself. But where did McIntosh get the metal rod from? And what was it used for behind the counter?

  • Ty

    @ IRunNY

    Would McIntosh’s actions be justified if it were two males that attacked him?

    *just curious

  • AndThenIHitMyDougie

    I won’t even bother to keep responding to these folks who think the guy was so wrong and a coward and an animal. Yeah-ok. Now if it was YOUR son and they hopped over that counter (2 against 1, at that) and pulled a weapon out of there pocket, then what?

    How is he an animal? How y’all know it ain’t happened before? Make the mistake of rolling up on someone who was once brutalized in a robbery attempt or something and they will snap just like that guy did. Folks make me sick- all people with vaginas aren’t some “weak, defenseless” creature who should be handled with care. That description left when the REAL animals hopped over a fukking counter.

    Some of you folks are just incorrigible until its you or one of yours that has to “self-preserve.”

    Tell those hoodburgers to keep their azzes on the “patron” side from now on. Period.

  • I Run New York

    “They should’ve stayed in their lanes. McIntosh would have to prove that he was still in danger while they were on the ground (i.e they were reaching in their pockets).”

    I worked at the Brooklyn DA’s office last summer, I’m a law school student, and stupidity like that (claiming self defense for beating someone while lying on the floor because you think they had their hand in their pocket) would not fly. McIntosh is cooked, he viciously beat a defenseless person lying on the floor. SMH at people making excuses for animalistic behavior.

    and Cosign the people that say something may have happened to him before. I wouldn’t be surprised if he was touched while in jail. He seems to have a lot of built up rage.

  • AndThenIHitMyDougie

    @TY

    You are so right. Run up on a person who has been vicitmized before, or a person who has just done a long bid, or a war vet who has seen too much and they will snap just like homebody above. That’s why its best just to play your own lane sometimes. You never know when that day may just be the day they have a flashback and lose it.

    Those two chicks just drew the short straw that day….. that’s what happens when you gamble though.

  • http://sandrarose.com Sandra Rose

    I see why he got fired. McIntosh yelled “f*ck y’all” to his co-workers when they asked him to stop beating the women. Yeah, he snapped.

  • http://facebook.com/kimecca Kimberly99

    In our culture, we tell little boys that they shouldn’t hit girls, but we should teach little girls (and big girls) not to hit boys either!

    They shouldn’t have jumped their ignorant buts over that counter, acting like a pack of wild monkeys.

    I live in NY and here it’s the worst of the worst of black people. Chics walking around just READY to fight. Over a double cheese burger meal?

    Never me.

  • I Run New York

    Curious Dougie, Are you familiar with Bernard Goetz and if so what are your feelings on that?

  • AndThenIHitMyDougie

    @IRunNY

    So…..if he had a lot of built of rage judging by his response to being attacked…….what would you say those two broads who hopped the counter at him had built up? Lotsa sugar, spice and everything nice? Are you for real sir/ma’am?

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KvyMqZFBzXc&feature=related datsmdubya2u

    WOW! And I agree with Dougie

    They jumped the counter

  • scorpiobee79

    I actually agree with you Sandra! He snapped but why go that far and not expect to get your butt handed to you. They were wrong for jumping over the counter. What is he suppose to do..stand there and let them jump him. Self-defense all day! He started thinking about that prison and how he had to fight for his life. lol

  • AndThenIHitMyDougie

    @IRun

    I’m not familiar with the Goetz case, no? But if someone attacked him unprovoked and he blew their head off……oh well. You win some, you lose some, and sometimes, you die. :shrug: Pick your battles wisely.

  • aaron

    I Run New York says:

    “They should’ve stayed in their lanes. McIntosh would have to prove that he was still in danger while they were on the ground (i.e they were reaching in their pockets).”

    I worked at the Brooklyn DA’s office last summer, I’m a law school student, and stupidity like that (claiming self defense for beating someone while lying on the floor because you think they had their hand in their pocket) would not fly. McIntosh is cooked, he viciously beat a defenseless person lying on the floor. SMH at people making excuses for animalistic behavior.

    and Cosign the people that say something may have happened to him before. I wouldn’t be surprised if he was touched while in jail. He seems to have a lot of built up rage.
    ———————————————————————–

    The right lawyer could make this go away. Unfortunately, he probably does not have the resources to hire a lawyer that could make this go away. This man did his time for his past action. However, I believe people are judging him based on his previous conviction even though he paid his debt to society.

    I think, if not for his past behavior, people might be more understanding. He may suffer from battered person’s syndrome or something.

  • http://sandrarose.com Sandra Rose

    @ aaron, scorpiobee79, AndThenIHitMyDougie and I Run NY: he definitely snapped. No sane man would have done what he did. In this case you have to take his past into consideration. 10 years behind bars with wild animals will do crazy things to your mind. He has that institutionalized mentality. He knew exactly where to put his hands on that metal rod to protect himself.

  • EJLOVE

    @ Sandra that looked he part of a fry rack… and let me say I may not be a lawyer…but I did grow up where folks will beat you ass if you not ready.. so I salute dude for protecting himself… sorry I just do, I am tired of folks running around here and trying to hurt people because they think that they can…what is the law going to do if he got hurt? the LAW wasn’t there when the attack was happening…would if they attacked him and he fell, fell in grease? fell on a rack on a Knife etc… what can they law do then? prosecute the women? ooooh wow…what about his quality of life? what if was altered by them animals… so whatever… and yes I would have screamed F-you too if you tried to stop me, stop THEM not me…THEM from attacking where was all that screaming when they jumped over the counter? where was the White lady’s scream then?…. no where…

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KvyMqZFBzXc&feature=related datsmdubya2u

    LOL @ the step mother.. you know he went to prison for murder but

    “I don’t know him to be that type of person”

    And next time june bug or ray ray say he can’t even get a job at MickeyDs cause of his record and that’s why he still spongin off mama or baby mama or some other unsuspecting female?…show him this video

  • Ty

    I Run New York says:

    “They should’ve stayed in their lanes. McIntosh would have to prove that he was still in danger while they were on the ground (i.e they were reaching in their pockets).”
    I worked at the Brooklyn DA’s office last summer, I’m a law school student, and stupidity like that (claiming self defense for beating someone while lying on the floor because you think they had their hand in their pocket) would not fly. McIntosh is cooked, he viciously beat a defenseless person lying on the floor. SMH at people making excuses for animalistic behavior.
    and Cosign the people that say something may have happened to him before. I wouldn’t be surprised if he was touched while in jail. He seems to have a lot of built up rage.
    _________________________________________________________________________
    Thanks for your credentials. However if McIntosh can prove that his safety was still at risk while they were down, its still self-defense. We do not see whats going at ground level or if they had weapons. “If” one or both of the women reached in their pocket (and made McIntosh think they had a weapon), he was well within his right to keep tagging that azz because he would still be defending himself. It would be a different story if he initiated the attack but they came at him.

  • I Run New York

    “@IRunNY
    So…..if he had a lot of built of rage judging by his response to being attacked…….what would you say those two broads who hopped the counter at him had built up? Lotsa sugar, spice and everything nice? Are you for real sir/ma’am?”

    Just because I don’t support beating someone lying on the ground motionless doesn’t mean I think the two women are Mother Teresa. Of course they shouldn’t have acted like that. I worked at McDonalds for 2 years and am not a fan of unruly customers. However, if you have rage issues from your time in jail why work at McDonalds where you will have to deal with customers, many of whom are unpleasant?

    Two, why in the world would the owner hire a convicted murderer? These women have a solid lawsuit against McDonalds for negligent hiring.

  • http://sandrarose.com Sandra Rose

    @ Ty: in the source article, witnesses and co-workers said he told the ladies to stay down and when they tried to get up he tagged them with the rod.

  • I Run New York


    Thanks for your credentials. However if McIntosh can prove that his safety was still at risk while they were down, its still self-defense. We do not see whats going at ground level or if they had weapons. “If” one or both of the women reached in their pocket (and made McIntosh think they had a weapon), he was well within his right to keep tagging that azz because he would still be defending himself. It would be a different story if he initiated the attack but they came at him.

    Sorry Ty but you’re dead wrong. I won’t hold it against, you didn’t go to law school and are speaking as a lay person. It’s pointless to argue with someone who doesn’t know the law so I’ll just agree to disagree on your legal analysis.

  • aaron

    @IRunNY
    …and McDonalds should counter sue. I don’t think this guy is any different from the battered wife who is being attacked and kills her attacker. There are cases where women have unloaded every round “because they SNAPPED”!

  • Mizz Echols

    I feel bad because I don’t feel bad for them. The “stud” should have kept her hands to her self and jumping over the counter was wayyyy over the top! When keeping it “real” goes wrong! 😐

  • AndThenIHitMyDougie

    @Sandra

    I don’t care about taking his past into consideration- that what those two tackheads should’ve did before they accosted him about doing his damn job.

    And furthermore- no sane woman/man woulda hopped their azz across a counter at a stranger after slapping them for DOING THEIR JOB.

    That’s why animals like those broads run the streets like wild hyenas now- knowing that no matter who they brutalize, if their victime brutalizes them back, then the victim will go to jail as well. And you got people in here worrying about those two trollops health. Negro, please.

  • AndThenIHitMyDougie

    @MizzEchols

    Don’t feel bad cause I don’t have one ounce of sympathy for those two girls and am proud to say so.

  • I Run New York

    Aaron, Let’s say for arguments sake he was raped in jail and that’s why he beat them, he has built up rage. That’s not a valid excuse.

    With respect to battered women’s syndrome sometimes it works in court sometime it doesn’t. It usually fails in court and the woman is convicted anyway if she’s not in immediate danger when she kills the husband. Here, he beat the woman while she lied on the ground motionless. Two, this incident isn’t remotely like battered women’s syndrome as these women do not have a history of beating him.

  • Ty

    Sandra Rose says:

    @ aaron, scorpiobee79, AndThenIHitMyDougie and I Run NY: he definitely snapped. No sane man would have done what he did. In this case you have to take his past into consideration. 10 years behind bars with wild animals will do crazy things to your mind.
    _______________________________________________________________________
    I agree Sandra which is why he was in defense mode. Some wild animals came at him and he lost it.

  • JD

    I think the girls were right…the dude was a pussy. I have never heard of a man having to pick up a stick to defend himself against women.

  • EJLOVE

    @ I Run… how you know she was MOTIONLESS? is that NOT speculation counselor? could you actually SEE what she was doing behind the counter on the ground?

  • I Run New York

    “@ aaron, scorpiobee79, AndThenIHitMyDougie and I Run NY: he definitely snapped. No sane man would have done what he did. In this case you have to take his past into consideration. 10 years behind bars with wild animals will do crazy things to your mind.”

    He killed a human being BEFORE he went to jail. It seems like he was already an animal, jail didn’t make him one.

  • Mizz Echols

    @ Dougie Your right! She felt big and bad like the other “stud” in the other video that got the shat slapped out of her and AGAIN these h@es were brought back to REALITY! It’s NOT COOL to put your hands on others unless you are defending yourself!! That’s just my opinion.

  • aaron

    @IRunNY

    Agreed. He does not have a history of being beaten by these women but their actions caused him to snap. Him snapping could be related to past encounters. I still say there is a lawyer who can get him off. The witness’ testimony will be critical. What are his co-workers who were also behind the counter saying? I think this wil be key.

  • I Run New York

    “I still say there is a lawyer who can get him off.”

    Maybe Casey Anthony’s attorney? lol

  • aaron

    LOL — There are others.

  • EJLOVE

    Some of yall self-righteous asses are too funny… he animal cause he is a x-con… judging the man and the only thing you know is that he was in jail, ain’t none read the case file, seen the evidence…you just know he is an animal cause the law convicted him…cause we know the law NEVER get its wrong…whatever… you do the crime you do the time and move on and dude was trying…Kudos of the hiring manager giving him a chance… he could have been somewhere else getting into trouble…instead he was at work and it came to him…but he is still the animal and the pussy… so damn unfair… I guess I am animal too, cause I would have tossed hot grease on they ass…

  • Ty

    Sandra Rose says:

    @ Ty: in the source article, witnesses and co-workers said he told the ladies to stay down and when they tried to get up he tagged them with the rod.
    ________________________________________________________________________
    Ok thats a new ball game.

    @IRunNy
    No I am not a law student but I have taken a few law courses and we can’t say they were motionless because we didnt see that. Like someone mentioned a good lawyer could make this disappear. Now since he “made” them stay down when they tried to get up, thats a different story.

  • I Run New York

    “I guess I am animal too, cause I would have tossed hot grease on they ass…”

    LMAO. And you’d have a nice cozy cell waiting for you at Rikers.

  • EJLOVE

    …Oh Rikers, so nice I love it in the winter time…

  • AndThenIHitMyDougie

    @Elove
    Its okay- I’m an animal and a puzzy too because I honestly think he should have snapped when they both slapped him. That’d have been my “shell-shocked” moment right then. Them jumping the counter wouldn’t even had happened.

    Fukk those animals (the girls!) Like I said, sometimes when you play puzzy, you end up gettin fukked. See Exhibits A & B of such “fukkedness” above.

  • rjk8

    @I Run New York says

    STFU you’re not a judge nor are you the jury. I know a lot of attorney’s some are brilliant and some have the intelligence and commonsense of a mule.

    The view of them on the ground is obstructed. Initially it was clearly self defense. The issue is when a reasonable person would think that he should have known he was no longer in danger. It’s not like they jumped back over the counter and were running away.

  • EJLOVE

    @and thenihit… I am in good company lol

  • NaijaGal

    It’s called adrenaline. It’s not easy to just stop once you get going. I agree it was self defense. And speaking as a licensed attorney if he can show he felt his life was in danger he can get off on self defense!

  • I Run New York

    “The cashier, who police said had previously served a decade for manslaughter, beat the women so badly that one suffered a fractured skull and broken arm in the shocking attack, which was captured on a customer’s cell phone and then posted to YouTube.”

    DAMN! A fractured skull! He was this close to killing again. I hope he gets some help.

  • I Run New York

    “And speaking as a licensed attorney if he can show he felt his life was in danger he can get off on self defense!”

    Not true, there’s both a subjective and objective component to self defense. How familiar are you with the NY penal code? I guess you’re not licensed to practice here. Where are you licensed? The South?

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OuACz0pKCmE&ob=av2e ELove

    @New York
    I’m NOT going to even give My Credentials but YOU are WRONG and @Ty is Completely Right… With The RIGHT Lawyer and/or Judge HE CAN GET OFF (Real…) And I’m talking Real-Life (NOT TV Crime-Drama Shyt EITHER…)

    And I BLAME “Snapped” for This becuz IT Proved that Females are Just as Crazy & Dangerous as MALES (Real) :coffee:

  • NaijaGal

    @I Run NY, when you finish law school, take the bar and PASS the bar then we can banter as colleagues, until then just know I’m well aware of what subjective and objective standards mean

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OuACz0pKCmE&ob=av2e ELove

    @MyDougie
    HOW did you comment to Me and I DIDN’T Comment Yet 😆

  • GottaBigOne

    Hello Everyone from NYC:

    I GOTTA TELL YA . . . I Ain’t Never seen a BEAT-DOWN Video like the one I just witnessed!

    It’s TRAGIC for all involved.

    I know One Thing . . . When I see something about to BREAK (especially when Our People are around) . . . I calmly do the Back Stroke – – and then immediately call for assistance!

  • I Run New York

    “@I Run New York says
    STFU you’re not a judge nor are you the jury. I know a lot of attorney’s some are brilliant and some have the intelligence and commonsense of a mule.
    The view of them on the ground is obstructed.”

    One thing is clear. They are on the ground. It is not self defense to beat someone lying on the ground. Two please look up duty to retreat you are clueless about self defense.

    “It’s not like they jumped back over the counter and were running away.”

    No they didn’t jump back over the counter, they couldn’t, one had a fractured skull and had they followed your advice and tried to get up he most likely would have continued his vicious assault.

  • I Run New York

    At Najagal please answer the question, are you licensed to practice in NY? and how familiar are you with the NY penal code?

  • http://sandrarose.com Sandra Rose

    JD says:

    I have never heard of a man having to pick up a stick to defend himself against women.
    _______________

    Have you ever been to NY? The women there are a different breed from the rest of the country. :no:

  • http://sandrarose.com Sandra Rose

    EJLOVE says:

    Kudos of the hiring manager giving him a chance… he could have been somewhere else getting into trouble…instead he was at work and it came to him…
    ______________

    True. And the manager thought enough of his skills to make him a cashier. At least the man was trying to be a productive citizen.

  • I Run New York

    @ Najagirl
    I worked at the DA’s office in NYC. I’m not saying that to show off or give credentials but so you know my familiarity with the NY Penal Code and how cases generally turn out in NY. I’m genuinely curious if you’re licensed to practice here b/c what your saying is totally off. I’m not trying to attack you or put you on the spot.

  • http://sandrarose.com Sandra Rose

    NaijaGal says:

    It’s called adrenaline. It’s not easy to just stop once you get going. I agree it was self defense. And speaking as a licensed attorney if he can show he felt his life was in danger he can get off on self defense!
    _________________

    Agreed. :clap:

  • GottaBigOne

    This is Definitely a HOT BUTTON Topic!

    My Question: If ALL People of Color (especially African-Americans) were to disappear from the American landscape . . . what would be the impact?
    For example, would crime suddenly disappear?

  • http://sandrarose.com Sandra Rose

    @ I Run New York: I agree with your points as well. The bottom line is the women should not have jumped over the counter. They were trespassing at that point, so anything that happened to them after that was on them. If they jumped a fence and trespassed in somebody’s yard and a trained attack dog ripped them to shreds, the dog’s owner would not be held liable. :no:

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OuACz0pKCmE&ob=av2e ELove

    Comment #108
    I DON’T know Exactly where you are going with that Question but YTs commit more Violent Crimes than Black People and YT COPS have killed far Black People Than YT People… :shrug:

  • I Run New York

    “42 I strongly disagree…it was self defense…if someone comes into your home and attacks you…you beat them…are you evil?”

    Home is completely different. NY has Castle Law.

  • EJLOVE

    @ I Run NY…the point is he was attacked… and sorry but he had the RIGHT to protect himself against them…and if that meant laying they asses flat…. well good effin night… I still think they got off easy.

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OuACz0pKCmE&ob=av2e ELove

    Initiation, Intent, Action and Reaction…

    1) THEY Initiated the Incident
    2) THEIR Intent wasn’t considered Friendly or Kind BUT it was Threatening in Nature
    3) THEIR Action was deliberate by their ENTERING that man’s Work-Space which is RESTRICTED FROM The Non-Employed Public
    4) HIS Reaction was Protecting himself from INDIVIDUALS he didn’t personally Know coming towards HIM in a Threatening Manner
    :coffee:

  • I Run New York

    Sorry EJlove but you’re wrong. You don’t have a right to beat someone lying on the ground. That’s not protection but savagery.

    “I still think they got off easy.”

    Fractured skull is “getting off easy” damn what’s hard? Death lol

  • aaron

    @I Run New York

    …so NY has a provision that allows someone to be unlawfully attacked in their workplace? Can you explain why these women were not charged with assault? They clearly assaulted this young man.

  • I Run New York

    “HIS Reaction was Protecting himself from INDIVIDUALS he didn’t personally Know coming towards HIM in a Threatening Manner”

    Not true when they were lying on the ground and he was bashing their skull in. That was revenge, rage, teaching them a lesson or whatever you want to call it but not self defense.

    Two his self defense claim fails as well because he used a weapon.

  • DTowns Finest

    Auntie, I watched the video and read about their injuries and I’m still laughing my ass off! This is a prime example of watch “how you handle ppl because you don’t know wht their going”! Because this dude was a killer waiting to be pushed!

  • GottaBigOne

    @ELove . . . In NYC most of the crimes are committed by Black Males (ages 14-29) against other Blacks and these “people” represent just a fraction of the population!

    Further, are White people responsible for the tremendous Black on Black crime in our communities across the United States???

    Are we going to continue to blame “The Man” for our ills and why we hate each other so badly?
    (I don’t want to hear about Slavery days as the cause of our troubles – – Our days are Doomed IF we don’t shape up – – Our Race will be extinct!)

    We as a people NEED to come together and work out a solution to our own problems!

  • I Run New York

    “Because this dude was a killer waiting to be pushed!”

    He sure was! That’s what I don’t understand, why would you hire someone with a short temper (who’s killed before) to work at McDonalds? That is a disaster waiting to happen. You must have patience working in fast food.

  • http://sandrarose.com Sandra Rose

    @ aaron: Each woman was charged with menacing, trespassing and disorderly conduct.

  • http://www.youtube.com/user/BestRemyWigs#p/a/u/3/5HbTzyXfTvw Wigtrepreneur

    wtf

    God Forgive my soul, but as we would say in Jamaica….Beat dem blood claat yes.Fuc dem up really good.

    It’s not cool for anyone to disrespect ,physically, or mentally attack another person.
    Not Cool on any level!
    The guy was doing his job,these women came to his place of employment and attacked him.

    As the mother of a 20 year old daughter,if she instigated and assaulted someone, I would be O.K with someone to effing her up!
    I would then proceed to jack her up after she got an ass whopping.

    As a business owner,I treat all my customers with respect,and I will give most of them the shirt off my back,but the minute you cross the line…Please believe it’s best to take your business elsewhere.

  • I Run New York

    “@I Run New York
    …so NY has a provision that allows someone to be unlawfully attacked in their workplace? ”

    Hey Aaron. As I’ve said before I don’t condone these two young ladies’ behavior. My only point is that he did not have a right to bash their skull in repeatedly with a medal rod while they laid on the floor.

    “Can you explain why these women were not charged with assault? They clearly assaulted this young man.”

    That’s not clear to me from the video. As far as the charging decisions DA’s have discretion I think the charges they picked are pretty decent, disorderly conduct, menacing, trespassing (I think trespassing is slightly debatable).

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OuACz0pKCmE&ob=av2e ELove

    @New York
    My Comment was meant to be Taken in It’s TOTALITY… Not a Piece for Examination becuz you just SKIP that FACT that this man didn’t START ANYTHING Whatsoever with Those Females (NON-Employees…)

  • Ty

    GottaBigOne says:

    This is Definitely a HOT BUTTON Topic!
    My Question: If ALL People of Color (especially African-Americans) were to disappear from the American landscape . . . what would be the impact?
    For example, would crime suddenly disappear?
    ________________________________________________________________________
    Elove addressed the crime question. Are you speaking currently or the past (history)? If African Americans were not in the “American Landscape” in the past there would be a completely different way of life today. There are so many unrecognized contributions from blacks. Dr. King said, “by the time we leave for work, Americans have depended on the inventions from the minds of Blacks.”

    Presently, if African Americans disappear the economy would further crumble. African Americans are major contributors yet we own the least 🙁 There are additional examples but I will spare u LOL

  • DapisDaShizz

    Since my grown azz can’t and won’t be fighting, I also would not be slapping, spitting, or otherwise trying to injure another person. But if I EVER try to, I believe that this would be the result of me doing something this foolish. So I will NEVER try this stupid mess to get that beat down. But I dang sure would call your boss, their boss, and their boss to see how fast you are unemployed if you do something against your duties as an employee. But to verify a bill, you were trying to see how a man can beat a fake man and make shim see that shim has tittays and not a penus.

  • http://sandrarose.com Sandra Rose

    @ I Run New York:
    how were they not trespassing when they jumped over the counter? As I commented before, whatever happened was on them once they jumped over the counter.

  • neek

    I remember one of my ex’s told me “you never know what the next man is going through”.(I have a mouth sometimes :ashamed: ) with that said you really should pick and choose you’re battle’s… cuz u may find yourself on the other end of a metal “bitch checka”.

    :coffee:

  • Ty

    @ IRunNY It wasn’t trespassing it was assault. They laid hands on him than jumped the counter. When he ran from them, he was clearly threatened.

    Again, would McIntosh’s action be justified if it were two males?

    #justcurious

  • aaron

    “I think trespassing is slightly debatable.”

    Going behind the counter IS trespassing.

    While I understand the DA develops the charging document, I am still not clear as to why these women were not charged with assault. They clearly assaulted the young man:

    •An unlawful threat or attempt to do bodily injury to another. (check)
    • The act or an instance of unlawfully threatening or attempting to injure another. (double check)

    In my state, a person can serve up to 20 years if convicted of assault. Did you mean to say you are uncertain battery was committed?

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OuACz0pKCmE&ob=av2e ELove

    Comment #118
    Ohh THAT’S Where you going with the Blah Blah Black People are OUR OWN Worst Enemy Rhetoric… Hey If YOU want to believe YT Society has ABSOLUTELY Nothing to do with the Violent Atmosphere that runs through OUR Society (Then Carry On With THAT…)

    But This Violent Environment and Cycle of Senseless-Violence is Systematically & Purposely DONE and the ONLY THINGS that can Counter it IS the Reversing of the VERY VICES that YT Society has used Quite Effectively to keep us AT ODDS (Real)

    1. Self Love & Self Respect INSTEAD OF Black Hating themselves
    2. Strong Family Structure INSTEAD OF a Broken-n-Fractured Family
    3. Stressing Education INSTEAD OF Fame-n-Glory via Sports & Entertainment

    THOSE THREE THINGS Alone will eliminate Street-Gangs (KIDS Gang-Banging…), Teen-age Pregnancies, Low College Enrollment, High School Dropouts, Teen-Age Drinking & Drug-Use and Violent TEEN Crime that lead to Criminal Record :coffee:

  • I Run New York

    @Auntie I think trespassing is slightly debatable (lawyers could make arguments on both sides) because their licenses were not revoked (legal jargin for asked to leave). However, I think there’s a strong argument that its automatically trespassing because there’s probably a sign that says “employees only behind the counter”. However, I think a clever defense attorney might be able to do away with the tresspassing charge.

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OuACz0pKCmE&ob=av2e ELove

    @Ty
    TUSHAY Baby (Real…) :coffee:

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KvyMqZFBzXc&feature=related datsmdubya2u

    @Elove

    ^^^^^^^^alla dat right there

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KvyMqZFBzXc&feature=related datsmdubya2u

    Look i gots some traffic tickets i need a lawyer….

  • EJLOVE

    Well as defense attorney I would argue my client showed great restraint as not to hot fry grease or stab they ass… besides she fell down and hit her own head… we can’t see what happened behind the counter….that is story and I am sticking with it… and I STILL don’t feel bad for they ass…

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OuACz0pKCmE&ob=av2e ELove

    @New York (Comment #131)
    You are WRONG AGAIN !!! Some things are considered ABSOLUTE and there is NO Wiggle-Room or Gray-Areas unless It’s Just PLAIN Politics & High Power MONEY driving it… And that can’t be done in OPEN COURT but behind the scenes ala Out of Court Settlement or Judge’s Chambers :coffee:

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KvyMqZFBzXc&feature=related datsmdubya2u

    @EJLove

    It does look like they slipped.

  • I Run New York

    While I understand the DA develops the charging document, I am still not clear as to why these women were not charged with assault. They clearly assaulted the young man:

    •An unlawful threat or attempt to do bodily injury to another. (check)
    • The act or an instance of unlawfully threatening or attempting to injure another. (double check)”

    Even the lowest level of assault, 3rd degree, requires an injury in NY. From the video it is not clear that he was injured by the slap.

    § 120.00 Assault in the third degree.
    A person is guilty of assault in the third degree when:
    1. With intent to cause physical injury to another person, he causes
    such injury to such person or to a third person; or
    2. He recklessly causes physical injury to another person; or
    3. With criminal negligence, he causes physical injury to another
    person by means of a deadly weapon or a dangerous instrument.
    Assault in the third degree is a class A misdemeanor.

  • Ty

    @ ELove….well stated

    *loving the late night debate* :koolaid3:

  • neek

    :rofl: @ dats2 gravie :thinking: I need one too…

  • I Run New York

    “Again, would McIntosh’s action be justified if it were two males?”

    Legally, no. He used a weapon. (The law is clear you CANNOT escalate the level of force. If someone slaps you you cannot use a metal rod in self defense.) Personally, I’m not sure how I would feel about it.

  • MUAHHHHKIZZMYAZZ

    ONE SMART AZZ CUSTOMER TOO MANY

    YOU CAN’T RUN UP ON ERRRRYBODY, ONCE THEY JUMPED OVER THAT COUNTER HE HAD EVERY RIGHT TO DEFEND HIMSELF, THERE WERE TWO OF THEM AND ONE OF HIM, EXCESSIVE, BUT IF HE HADN’T HE WOULD HAVE LOST THE FIGHT FOR SURE, AND THOSE WOMEN WEREN’T COMING OVER JUST TO TALK, THEY MEANT TO CAUSE HIM BODILY HARM

  • deedeegirl

    you never know what you are going to get when you run up on someone, they never should have gone over that counter. but it seems he didn’t need to go that far to defend himself.

  • aaron

    @I Run New York

    Unbelievable. It sounds like a lot of abusers are roaming the streets of NY. Is the same standard used for domestic abuse or is it covered under a different provision of the law? I am curious.

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OuACz0pKCmE&ob=av2e ELove

    @New York (Comment #141)
    It was TWO against ONE… So WHAT Exactly are you talking about, I MEAN HOW do one suppose to assess the LEVEL of FORCE when you are Physically OUT-NUMBERED (Real)

    He’s a Citizen working at a Fast Food establishment… He isn’t a Military Expert or Police Officer or Professional Boxer :shrug:

  • I Run New York

    “Unbelievable. It sounds like a lot of abusers are roaming the streets of NY.”

    OMG Domestic violence is terrible but for a whole host of reasons. Victims rarely want to press charges, if they do they usually always recant, and assault’s a pretty high standard in NY. For example a guy punched his girlfriend 20 times in the face causing her to lose her right eye. It wasn’t enough for first degree assault, the depravity requirement wasn’t met and as I pointed out earlier even the lowest level of assault, 3rd degree, a mere misdemeanor, requires a physical injury, a slap to the face is a long shot.

    “Is the same standard used for domestic abuse or is it covered under a different provision of the law? I am curious.”

    The elements are the same. So if you stalk/harass/assault or whatever else happens in DV the same elements are required.

  • Itsnotboutme

    JUST WANTED TO ADD MY TWO LITTLE CENTS…I 100% agree with EVERY point made by @ELOVE….and I am a female who is strongly against men hitting on women…I’m out

  • I Run New York

    Elove if you want to make that argument in court by all means do. Lawyers make creative arguments all the time and sometimes they’re successful. However, the law is pretty clear with respect to self defense and weapons coupled with my experience in working in the DA’s office in NYC and the cases I’ve read in law school I think it’s a losing argument. But I’ll agree to disagree.

    However, if it ever happens to you, 2 chicks come at you and you pull out a metal rod and fracture her skull, stab her ass, or throw hot grease on her let me now how the case turns out. If I’m wrong I’ll change my name to Elove Runs New York lol

  • editorialgirl

    Black folks amaze me. Are you honestly defending this creep? Do you REALLY think a woman could take a man? Do you REALLY think a man that just got out of JAIL for murder was so afraid of two women he picked up a metal rod? Do you REALLY think the first hit wasn’t enough? You didn’t see a single movement from those ladies after ONE HIT but he kept going and going with the intention of killing them. ANd, that anyone found that funny or worth defending just shows how violence has taken over our culture.

  • editorialgirl

    If a cop hit a dude with night stick while he was down on the ground after he was approached “in the wrong” way most of you would be talking about marching.

    A grown arse man beating people with a metal rod AFTER there were several attempts to REMOVE THE ROD and you think that’s ok? Oh, ok. Please keep me away from your future children.

  • editorialgirl

    Dudes been out of jail for only a year and 4 months. You can’t tell me he was afraid of women. And, oh, he killed his classmate because of an argument? (Although it’s unclear to me why he was still in high school at 19.)

    “McIntosh served more than a decade in prison after being convicted of shooting and killing Oshan Litchmore, 17, a classmate at Bronx’s Evander Childs High School in 2000, when he was only 19 years old. The two teens were outside Macy’s at the Galleria Mall in Westchester when they got into an argument. The fatal bullet passed through Litchmore and hit an 8-year-old passerby in the leg.”

    Read more: http://www.dnainfo.com/20111014/greenwich-village-soho/mcdonalds-cashier-caught-on-cell-phone-video-beating-unruly-customers#ixzz1apB8ghSt

  • Christi

    So, are we just going to ignore that in the opening of the video he was being verbally abused? I don’t see his action as “snapping”. She was calling him and another worker curse words and trying to provoke him to fight by repeatedly shouting “Do some’n den!” YET, he stayed behind the counter in a non-menacing manner. Look at his body language as they are yelling at him. He seems like: “Sigh. AN-Y-WAY!” The boychick had picked up her purse like she was going to leave, but didn’t leave. THEN they had the audacity to swing on him and hop behind the counter. She went after him like she was ready to do some damage. I hate violence, but my stance is “I ain’t a killer, but don’t push me!” HE got cussed out, slapped up and approached. They should have been long gone before it even got to that point. As far as him continuing to hit them, he hit longhaired chick after/as she raised up. I don’t know if she was threatening him, talking trash, or trying to get away, but he had the upper hand and kept it which is what you’re supposed to do in a fight. They started it, he finished it! I hope he gets off. Seems to me like he’s out of prison trying to be a productive member of society but, just when he thought he was out, those chicks pulled in back in. SMH.

  • I Run New York

    “So, are we just going to ignore that in the opening of the video he was being verbally abused?”

    LMAO Calling someone a name is verbal abuse? Damn you southerners are soft.

  • Christi

    @editorial girl Um… YES! I do believe a woman could take a man. Being a man doesn’t make someone automatically able to fight or fight better than a woman. On top of that, did you not see that TWO people went after ONE person??? Being a female doesn’t keep your punches and slaps from hurting. And I think if dude wanted to kill them he would have. He has feet and hands. A person who wants to kill would have also PUNCHED, KICKED and STOMPED them and maybe even gone for another weapon, but he didn’t.

  • Christi

    @ IRNY: I’m not a southerner not that that has anything to do with this. So what did you do at the DA;s office? Mail room?

  • I Run New York

    LMAO not quite. I cleaned the toilets.

  • Christi

    Oh, well, cleaning toilets I can and do respect. Try to stick to what you know though.

  • http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2011/aug/8/mayor-talks-tough-to-black-teens-after-flash-mobs/ LaTechGrad02

    Why are people so focused on this man’s past? Has he not paid his debt to society? I know plenty of people who have done their time and are productive members of society. They’re at work when most of us are still sleeping. So I can’t get with calling this man and animal or any of that because he’s been in prison. He was making an honest living when these two female thugs decided to harrass him and attack him at his job. He defended himself. If you attack me where I work, you will get the breaks beat off of you with a monitor, a calculator, a toblerone, or whatever I have on my desk. I’m protecting myself regardless.

    Being a female does not exclude you from getting your behind handed to you. There are some females out there who fight like men and this man was outnumbered so he did what he had to do. When they jumped over the counter did you guys want him to hit them with buns and lettuce or wait for the police to show up after they had pulverized him?

  • I Run New York

    “Being a female does not exclude you from getting your behind handed to you. ”

    The issue for me is not gender. Beating someone in the head with a metal rod while they lay on the ground motionless is flat out disturbing. He came extremely close to killing that lady. If he had beat a man in the head who was lying on the ground I would still be disturbed. It’s animalistic behavior. I think the fact that he’s killed before, and spent 10 years in jail, informs what kind of person he is which is probably why people have mentioned it.

    ” When they jumped over the counter did you guys want him to hit them with buns and lettuce or wait for the police to show up after they had pulverized him?”

    My issue was not how he behaved when they came towards him but his behavior when they were lying on the ground. You don’t kick someone while they’re down, that is the behavior of a coward, animal, or sadistic person.

  • Asouthernpeach

    I agree with Sandra on this 100%!! Strange ain’t it?…..lol

  • DapisDaShizz

    I just want to know, if he kept running and they caught him, stomped him to the ground and just kept going, would this be a better outcome for you? A person should not be judged by their sex when they CLEARLY think they have morphed into something else.Shim turned into a tiger and the other one turned into a puma, it’s just too bad that he turned into a lion and ate their arses up like catnip.

  • Femme Fatale

    :rofl: I can’t stop laughing and watching it over and over ain’t helping. He was swangin on them broads. :rofl:

    If two people came to my job talkin loudly, being disrepectul and came at me violently, I’d snap too. I’d just snap out of it a bit sooner than dude.

  • DapisDaShizz

    @New York, please STOP assuming they were laying on the ground MOTIONLESS. I believe that if you are “man” enough to jump a counter and come after me then you are clearly not going down after being hit. You will proceed to try and get up to beat me like I am beating you but I would try my best and keep you down so I don’t get hit. This case will be best told by the other people that were watching from behind the counter, so let’s stop assuming.

    BTW, The dude in the shorts looked like he was still going to get his order taken after this. I bet he got mad, lol.

  • DapisDaShizz

    I am watching a video on youtube where this guy reviews this incident. He is hilarious. He says Rayon is hitting them like he is playing wacka mole, so they don’t get up and attack him.

  • http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2011/aug/8/mayor-talks-tough-to-black-teens-after-flash-mobs/ LaTechGrad02

    You don’t kick someone while they’re down, that is the behavior of a coward, animal, or sadistic person.
    _________________________________________________________________________
    In this case, if you’ve already proven yourself to be a threat to me then I’m sorry I would probably kick you when you were down to ensure that you stayed down. I’m not going to give you the opportunity to get up from the floor to come after me twice. There were two of them. For all that we know, one of them could have had a weapon or they could have been reaching for something to use as a weapon.

  • melEmel

    I usually don’t comment but this brought me out of lurker mode. Some of these comments were working my nerves.

    @ I Run NY: The man was at work minding his own business trying to earn a living. Those “women” (and I used the term loosely) were looking for trouble. After calling him all kinds of names and hitting him, they jumped over the counter and came at him. He even tried to run away and they followed him! He grabbed the rod in self defense, you, as a law student, can’t deny that. Was he wrong for beating them while they were still on the ground? Maybe, but, as people have said, we have no idea what they were doing while they were on the ground. He is not a coward or an animal or any other term used to describe him for defending himself. In the heat of the moment no one can say what they will do when their back is against the wall. Where were all these concerned people (i.e his co-workers and the white lady screaming to stop) when he was getting slapped and getting chased around the Mickey Ds?? The situation could have been (and should have been) resolved long before he grabbed that rod. Period! I think gender played a role in the situation and people didn’t want to act until he started swinging for the fences. To me that’s the sad part.

    Secondly, what do you mean by I can’t believe the owner of the McDonald’s would hire someone with a short temper? 1) Everyone, even convicts deserves a chance at getting their life back on track, as this man was trying to do. Would you rather him be on the corner hustlin or robbing folks? Secondly, I am sure there aren’t a line of people waiting to apply at McDonald’s so the chances of getting a fine, upstanding, two parent home, college-educated gentleman are slim to none! (Well, on second thought, maybe not in this economy LOL). 2) You may snap too after 10 yrs in prison and some crazy chick is hopping over the counter and chasing you at your place of business. Dude probably had a flashback of a shower incident while in the clink and went ape shit. Who knows! My point is the case is not as open and shut as you may think.

    And oh yeah, I just finished law school in NJ and took the NY and NJ bars (hopefully I passed) and I know the Goetz Case and the NY Penal Code, if we want to talk about credentials.

  • lite coffee

    Y’all can debate back and forth all day on this. The true is it all depends on the state he is tried in. Can a Lawyer get he off, IMO yes a good one can. Someone said “If someone slaps you you cannot use a metal rod in self defense.” Not here where I’m from. If you run up on someone in a traffic altercation, even just running your mouth. The minute you run up, that is it. You can and will get shot in self defense.

    I think he should have stopped when they were down and that will differently work against him in a court of law. But in the courts of the streets, it is understood that not everyone can turn it off just like that. The moral of this story is never underestimate anyone, you just don’t know what they can and will do.

    #permittocarryaconcealedweapon

  • http://twitter.com/candyrayne215 spongebobfan

    :rofl: i laughed too. looks like self defense

  • http://twitter.com/candyrayne215 spongebobfan

    naw but he going to jail for a long time, assult deadly weapon. the lil spat b4 hand and even the girl going behind the counter will mean nothing. :coffee: <—- non-f@#$s tea

  • lovezoe

    Well, I watched the video. Sad. I tell you, I don’t get why people are fascinated watching fights or altercations. Soon as they would have started cursing, I would have been out of there. I am not going to sit around waiting to see if someone has a gun or not, I am going to assume if you crazy enough to act like that in public, you crazy enough to be strapped.

    I won’t if the guy was right or wrong, I will say if a burly chick come at me, I am picking up whatever is near. Brick, pipe, bottle, whatever I can. When someone got you beat by 100lbs all bets are off. I do think he is going to get time, based primarily on his prior conviction. It will prove that he a propensity for violence. This is coming from someone who watches tv law shows, not a professional giving an opinion.

  • BigCityGirl

    Sandra…I cracked up at the video too!!!…LOL! I’m sorry the Ladies got hurt but they were suppose to go in, order food and sit their azz down somewhere. Why they felt it necessary to jump over the counter is beyond me…He was “cool” until they jumped over the counter! If he did indeed just get out of prison recently…thats the beating they got…one of those PRISON beatings…you keep beating until the person doesn’t get up anymore! Folks need to be careful out here…you don’t know who you’re dealing with….

  • Anna

    Where did the metal rod come from? Is there a shower in the back? That was difficult to watch, especially w/audio and you hear the girl yelling ‘stop”. Either way dude had a right to defend himself.

  • http://sandrarose.com Sandra Rose

    Some of you asked why they jumped over the counter. The Stud girl jumped over the counter first and her femme friend followed her. The problem with Studs is that they have a screwed up view of what they believe men are supposed to be. So they try to BE the man that was missing in their lives as children. Their perception of a man is so messed up because the men in their lives were either absent or their mothers disrespected the men in front of the children. The girls who don’t grow up to be lesbians are the ones who run wild or end up cheating on their husbands. :no:

  • http://sandrarose.com Sandra Rose

    DapisDaShizz says:

    @New York, please STOP assuming they were laying on the ground MOTIONLESS
    __________________

    They weren’t motionless. If you look closely near the end of the video, you can see the head of the long hair girl coming up and he whacks her in the head. The women kept trying to stand up. And as BigCityGirl said, he had that prison mentality. You beat the person until they don’t get up. He was defending himself against 2 crazy, unpredictable women.

  • Tertra114

    NO they shouldn’t have put thier hands on him, HOWEVER to beat 2 women relentlessly when they are clearly DOWN is uncalled for, the minute they went down he should have backed in on up and got the f**k out of there, not stand there and “teach them a lesson”, 2 wrongs don’t make a right, and you know if they have friends this is NOT the last of it, theres always going to be retaliation, i’ve worked in establishments with face-to-face contact with costomers, and when they act like this, the first thing you should do ANYWAY is take a few steps back, don’t allow them to be in arms reach TO even hit you, or you simply walk away, DO NOT ENGAGE WITH THEM & SMIRK

  • http://sandrarose.com Sandra Rose

    @ Tertra114: the women weren’t down. If you watch closely near the end of the video, the long haired girl comes up. You can see the top of her head come up above the counter. He was justified in thinking she was attempting to attack him again.

  • Ms. Everything

    :cosign: @Mel and Sandra and a bunch of other folks

    My personal opinion is he had every right to defend himself and the owner had no right to release that statement saying he is no longer there as if he beat those women unprovoked. If those women had been men, I doubt there would be anyone on here saying that this man is in the wrong. Because of his prior conviction he’s being accused of having a violent personality. Perhaps he does, but looking at the prior conviction (the fact that he only served 10 years after shooting and killing a minor when he was 19) leads me to believe that there is more to that case than what was said in the article. 10 years sounds like a manslaughter/3rd degree murder case not straight out 1st or even 2nd degree murder and there were probably extenuating circumstances in that case. Perhaps the person who he shot and unfortunately killed was coming at him first… we don’t know and will probably never know because of course the media wouldn’t dare release the circumstances of the case outside of saying he’s a murderer. But a murderer rarely serves only 10 years. There’s more to that case just like there’s more to this case and as much as I hate bringing race into this, if you changed the color of his skin, he would be lauded as a man defending himself from two “animals” who attacked him without cause. Instead he’s just another violent black man who attacked 2 women… never mind the fact that those “women” attacked first and without cause

  • http://nwmasssmedia.com So U Fancy Ha? Hehe Only U Think It

    Well, I guess the 50$ was fake I don’t see why they got so upset about him doing his job. So if they went in to the beauty supply and the man did it there would they had jump him to. Then he would have kunfu’d they ass to.

    I just wanna know do we want to be equal to men or treated like a woman? I feel like we try to have it both ways and you can’t. Be a lady at all times or get treated like who you are trying to be at all times. #justsaying

  • http://nwmasssmedia.com So U Fancy Ha? Hehe Only U Think It

    When I was 16 i worked at taco bell and if a bish would slapped me and I was only making 6$ i would stompped on me some ass to. You can find another job making 6$. Thank goodness for growth I would not want to work for the public now. Customer Service is the hardest job in America because people are crazy and I would never go into a place where folks gotta fixed my food and act crazy. No telling what they would do to your food.

  • http://youtu.be/0aCwkF3YWmo YSoSerious

    I’m not watching this video. I don’t get any entertainment from watching people getting beaten outside of action movies. And sometimes not even then if it is overly brutal or otherwise gratuitous.

    However, I have read all the comments and have a good idea of what happened. I’m late but I can say that everything I think and feel about this has already been said best by Dougie and EJlove.

    You never know who is capable of what. You take a chance to run up on a stranger, you’re deciding to play with your life. Whose fault is it when you lose?

  • ckkbc

    They got what they deserved. I bet they won’t slap anybody else anytime soon.

  • Femme Fatale

    I :think: what those girls would have done to dude…. had they got their hands on him.

  • cougar lover

    that is what happens when people stop respecting each other. Had she not tried to assert her dominance by physically abusing the employee, and not put him in a position to assume he would be ensured bodily harm after she ran after him in a fit of rage. She would not have endured the painful reality of self-defense. That is why I mind mind and give respect to those that you know are going through. She made the decision for both of them that day and he should not be repremanded, as the decision for someone’s skull to be cracked was soley on her,and her party.

  • Daisy

    @IrunNY – Why the hell is shade being thrown at the South or people from the South??????? :rolleyes:

    Punks jump up to get beat down :coffee:

  • missmiami

    Them chicks asked for it!!!

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OuACz0pKCmE&ob=av2e ELove

    @New York (Comment #148)
    YOU have me Mixed-Up with SOMEBODY ELSE becuz I NEVER interjected MYSELF or WHAT I would’ve DONE in any of MY Comment or Retorts (Real…) :coffee:

  • vipatlstyle

    Point, blank, period they should have not jumped over the counter. I’ll bet you they will think twice before doing something like that again. Oh well NEXT!

  • JMO

    I think he took it too far however I don’t think he should be punished. They yelled, smacked and started to attack him first.

    Who knows what would have happened if he didn’t protect himself. What was he supposed to do, just push them?

    I’m willing to bet money this wasn’t there first time acting “unruly”. :coffee:

  • Kristy

    All I got to say, if you you are going to start something you better be prepared for whatever. Those girls got all the mouth and thought he was just going to stand there. I believed he snapped, but they started it and he D@#@ well finished it. I’m laughing my @ss off. I bet they want say anymore crazy stuff to a stranger.

  • JMO

    editorialgirl says:

    If a cop hit a dude with night stick while he was down on the ground after he was approached “in the wrong” way most of you would be talking about marching.

    A grown arse man beating people with a metal rod AFTER there were several attempts to REMOVE THE ROD and you think that’s ok? Oh, ok. Please keep me away from your future children.
    _______________________________________________________________________

    Your police scenario is different. Just curious, if that was your son, what would you have told him to do? Run? Push both of those women?

    It was 2 on 1. I bet hadn’t he used a weapon, they would have attacked him horribly …

    I think some of us aren’t watching the same video …

  • getyourhandouttamypocket

    @Daisy
    Punks jump up to get beat down
    ———–

    :yes: I’m sick of heffas clowning all the time. THIS is what happens when you run up on the wrong one.

  • NOLA

    Some people seem to be having a hard time with him hitting them once they were down. I would have done the same thing because if they had gotten up, maybe they would have gone for some hot grease or a knife or some other weapon back there. They were bold enough to come into an unauthorized place to attack him. It’s self defense in my book.

    This is a classic case of your mouth writing a check, that your azz can’t cash.

  • SugarPieHoneybunn

    Daisy says:

    @IrunNY – Why the hell is shade being thrown at the South or people from the South???????
    Punks jump up to get beat down
    _______________________________________
    Exactly…he need to STFU with all that bullsh*t.

  • SugarPieHoneybunn

    Oh and HEEEYYYY Daisy 🙂

  • NOLA

    In the words of my sister (New Orleans voice)…If you do, you through. Boo-Boo.

  • SugarPieHoneybunn

    Once you have the opportunity to have your ass whooped, you KNOW you aint tryna let that sh*t happen AGAIN. You will black out and swing at anything moving. Trust me.

    S/N: I bet MONEY the next dude that LOOK like he wana hit Rihanna will probably end up in a coffin. I bet she wont take another ass whoopin like that either.

    Same shit. Its called being TRAUMATIZED. That man been traumatized before and them hoes was pokin at the wrong BEAR.

  • Ididntreallymeanit

    He seems to be a violent felon, not going to be good for him in the future, since the only jobs he would be able to get is work like this.

  • SugarPieHoneybunn

    *Same sh*t…Ooops

  • Ididntreallymeanit

    I watched the video I don’t find it funny at all, wheres the humor? Some of you need help.

  • I Run New York

    @ Ididntreallymeanit

    Yeah it’s not a laughing matter. Terrible outcome for all 3 people. One has a fractured skull and broken arm, one hospitalized, and another that’s on his way back to prison for a very long time. Pretty sad.

  • http://pearlswindow.com Carrington

    THIS is what happens when you mix women who think that having breast gives them a pass to “hit as much as you want and expect to walk away”, with working hard as f*ck having to deal with unruly, ignorant mf’s all day and “women” who were taught that “boys don’t hit girls”.

    They’re lucky to have walked away with their lives and I hope this serves as a lesson to their one-armed, cracked skulled a$$es, just because your mammy taught YOU that boys don’t hit girls, doesn’t mean that ALL boys were taught that “lesson” – what you FOOLS should be teaching your daughters and sons is, “You don’t hit NOBODY! Keep your f*cking hands to yourself! Especially as a woman thinking that all men are OK with being attacked – they aren’t … as evidenced in this video!”

    I have been here. I’m not a violent person – at all… but don’t push me. Once, this dude would not leave well enough alone, I kept trying to leave and he was DETERMINED to prove that he was a “man” and obviously, that I wasn’t. He hit me, we fought and I tried to walk away and then I put my hand up and realized that that warm substance oozing down my back was in fact, blood. I don’t remember much until that dude was laying in front of me unconscious. I had broken his arm, his rib, he had stitches in his head, his forehead on the back of his ass (Don’t even ask how, cause I don’t know) and the ONLY thing that brought me back to “reality” was seeing him laying on the ground not moving. I TRULY believe I could have killed him and I don’t even remember how.

    It is VERY possible to “snap” and there by the grace of God, I am not in jail for homocide. That’s why I say, “keep your hands to yourself!” you NEVER know when that person your effing with will hit that “point” and send you a message you ain’t ready for!

    Do I feel sorry for her? I’m on the fence. To a degree, I would hope that he simply snapped and wasn’t REALLY trying to hurt them, but at the same time, YOU jumped over the counter, YOU struck first, YOU should be prepared for the consequences of “going for bad” at all times.

    If this had been two dudes who jumped the counter, the “gasps” would be totally different. He would have been applauded. THATS what needs to be visited here. WOMEN don’t get to attack and use the fact that they get periods as an excuse to walk away unscathed.

    I actually feel sorry for him. Call me what you want. Who knows what was going through his head? “They’re actually willing to jump over this counter… do they have guns? Knives? There are knives and hot grease behind this counter, is she trying to get up to grab one? There is hot grease back here, do I let this woman who CLEARLY ain’t wrapped too tight get up and permanently disfigure me, or do I tag her a$$ everytime she moves for my OWN safety?”

    *Shrugs… how bout that baby bump?

  • I Run New York

    I hope this dude gets some type of help though. He’s going to hurt the wrong person one day and get killed by their family member. So far he’s murdered a 17 year old boy, shot a 6 year old boy, and now has lost his job at McDonalds and is facing a felony assault charge for bashing someone’s skull in with a metal rod. Maybe anger management or a job training program can go along with his latest prison sentence.

  • http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2011/aug/8/mayor-talks-tough-to-black-teens-after-flash-mobs/ LaTechGrad02

    @I Run, what do you recommend for the two thugs who slapped this man and hopped the counter to continue assaulting him? If we dig deep enough, I can almost guarantee that he’s not the first person to feel their wrath. You can bet, once their pride and wounds heal, he’ll be the last person that they challenge.

    :cosign: Everything you said Carrington.

  • JMO

    :applause: @ #201

  • I Run New York

    “@I Run, what do you recommend for the two thugs who slapped this man and hopped the counter to continue assaulting him?”

    The video does not show an assault. Please don’t use words if you don’t know what they mean. Please read the definition of assault in NY it’s already in the thread you don’t have to go far.

  • I Run New York

    “You can bet, once their pride and wounds heal, he’ll be the last person that they challenge.”

    Definitely not! People like that don’t just all of a sudden become law abiding normal rational people because they get their ass beat . They’ll probably be even more violent.

  • Ididntreallymeanit

    I Run New York I agree he needs anger management and counseling, Carrington I agree parents should teach there kids to keep their hands to themselves but sadly some don’t.

  • http://pearlswindow.com Carrington

    I Run New York says:

    The video does not show an assault. Please don’t use words if you don’t know what they mean. Please read the definition of assault in NY it’s already in the thread you don’t have to go far.
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
    On what planet does slapping the $hit out of someone not constitute assault?

    Why did HE get attacked and HE needs therapy for giving exactly what they asked for? Arent people who jump counters and attack the cashier because the dont like the service the ones in need of therapy???

    This goes back to my original point, people excuse women when they attack, but they villianize the men who refuse to be their victims.

  • http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2011/aug/8/mayor-talks-tough-to-black-teens-after-flash-mobs/ LaTechGrad02

    Since I’m in Virginia, I guess I should read up on New York law before asking questions on an entertainment blog :rolleyes:

    Some of you seem to be focusing on the two women and treating them as if they’re the victims in this whole situation. They weren’t forced to slap that man and they weren’t forced to follow him behind the counter. They could’ve walked away and cooled off but they chose to act like fools.

    They also need anger management courses as well. because normal members of society don’t behave and react in that way. The next time they choose to step out of line, they won’t be hit with a pipe, they’ll be popped with a bullet.

  • I Run New York

    “On what planet does slapping the $hit out of someone not constitute assault?”

    NY, please read our penal code. The definition of assault in NY has already been posted. You’re making yourself look really dumb right now.

  • Ididntreallymeanit

    They’re all are either going to go to jail or get probation, and the cycle will continue

  • I Run New York

    “Since I’m in Virginia, I guess I should read up on New York law before asking questions on an entertainment blog ”

    You didn’t ask a question you made a statement, an incorrect one. I corrected it for you. If you’re going to cosign something it might be a good idea to know a thing or to about the subject you’re cosigning. Based on what you cosigned its clear you have no clue what the word assault means in NY I figured I’d educate you.

  • I Run New York

    “They’re all are either going to go to jail or get probation, and the cycle will continue”

    I suspect the girls will get community service at most. Disorderly conduct and trespassing rarely result in something serious. I think the brotha who has a previous manslaughter conviction is up sh*t creek without a paddle and is looking at some serious time.

  • http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2011/aug/8/mayor-talks-tough-to-black-teens-after-flash-mobs/ LaTechGrad02

    Lol, I cosigned Carrington’s statement about the video and my QUESTION to you in response to your STATEMENT about anger management was above that.

    @I Run, what do you recommend for the two thugs who slapped this man and hopped the counter to continue assaulting him?

  • I Run New York

    “Lol, I cosigned Carrington’s statement about the video and my QUESTION to you in response to your STATEMENT about anger management was above that.”

    You cosigned the statement characterizing what the two women did as assault It’s clear you have no clue what the word assault means in NY because that’s an inaccurate statement

    “@I Run, what do you recommend for the two thugs who slapped this man and hopped the counter to continue assaulting him? If we dig deep enough, I can almost guarantee that he’s not the first person to feel their wrath. You can bet, once their pride and wounds heal, he’ll be the last person that they challenge.
    (I COSIGN) Everything you said Carrington.”

  • GottaBigOne

    @Carrington (#201) . . . I Really Like what you wrote here!
    You are Definitely ON POINT!

    As for I RUN NEW YORK . . . Everytime I return to Ms. Rose’s Blog . . . You are Still HERE Ranting and Raging and becoming a bit redundant in your statements on the legality of things (when do you get time to sleep?)

    Is the need for Love and Attention That Great?!?
    . . . You Know . . . I’m Just Sayin’?

    GBO

  • I Run New York

    “@I Run, what do you recommend for the two thugs who slapped this man and hopped the counter to continue assaulting him?”

    Much better! This question I will answer. It’s not loaded with inaccuracies, like characterizing the women’s behavior as assault. I hate it when people use legal terms without having a damn clue what they mean. My issue is not with what he did when they hopped over the counter but the fact that he continued to beat them with the metal rod as they lay on the floor. When they were laying on the floor I would have walked a way.

  • I Run New York

    “(when do you get time to sleep?)”

    LOL Thank you for your concern. I had a beautiful night’s rest. In fact I didn’t get up today until 1pm.

  • http://pearlswindow.com Carrington

    Assault and RELATEABLE offences:

    2. He or she repeatedly follows a person or engages in a course of
    conduct or repeatedly commits acts over a period of time intentionally
    placing or attempting to place another person in reasonable fear of
    physical injury, serious physical injury or death;

    S 120.05 Assault in the second degree.
    A person is guilty of assault in the second degree when:
    1. With intent to cause serious physical injury to another person, he
    causes such injury to such person or to a third person;

    S 120.15 Menacing in the third degree.
    A person is guilty of menacing in the third degree when, by physical
    menace, he or she intentionally places or attempts to place another
    person in fear of death, imminent serious physical injury or physical
    injury.

  • Christi

    When keeping it real goes wrong… you end up with fractured skull and broken arm

  • http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2011/aug/8/mayor-talks-tough-to-black-teens-after-flash-mobs/ LaTechGrad02

    @Carrington, :coffee: Didn’t you see the defintion above……I was educated on it and everything……..

  • melEmel

    I think he has a justifiable defense for his actions. This case is similar to an incident that happened a few months ago where a 18 yr and his dad started a fight against 2 valets they say stole from their car. One of the valets stabbed the 18 yr old and he later died. No charges were filed against the valet. Of course it didn’t get much attention because it was man to man but I guess that’s the world we live in.

  • Christi

    @MelEmel, my husband said that too (that this reminded him of that case).

  • http://pearlswindow.com Carrington

    Right? It’s like two people get to attack you and chase you down an alley, and then they realize that you’ve picked up a pipe and cracked their skulls, they’re in hell talkin’ about, “You didn’t have to kill me!”

    Why, yes, MF… yes, I did! Now move, the game is about to come on!

  • http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2011/aug/8/mayor-talks-tough-to-black-teens-after-flash-mobs/ LaTechGrad02

    LOL @Carrington.

  • ShoYaRight

    and the lesson here boys and girls is simply this, “keep your got-damm hands to yourself!”

  • http://twitter.com/#!/Birdshu Bird

    I got to read up on this story so someone can help me understand why ole boy is in the pokey. That is a clear cut case of self defense and its on video. Obviously these chicks are used to jumping dudes. My guess is Mr. McIntosh cured them of that particular illness. Good for him.

  • Lady Progressive

    Typical Black women finding entertainment in watching a Black man brutalize a woman. You chicks REALLY like being abused or watching your own be abused. Do any Black women have sympathy for each other?

    Of course they were wrong for jumping over the counter, but to sit there and justify and almost feel happy for watching this GROWN MAN BEAT almost to DEATH two women with a metal rod is sickening. It makes perfect sense most of you live man-less lives because your understanding of how a man should act is severely limited.

    Not only did he beat them when they were down, he CONTINUED after they were almost unconscious, and you simple broads are singing him praises. I learned a LONG time ago that the average Black woman has NO SENSE of decency when it comes to respecting their women.

    OF course the White woman screamed stop! Unlike you average simple minded Black women, she realized his behavior was unacceptable! I hope he ends up where he belongs. I’m certain he will find a Black woman to take care of him in prison.

    I have always and will continue to always say, Black women are a doomed species because we NEVER support each other and ALWAYS make excuses for the lowest of the low Male.

  • Lady Progressive

    @MelEmel

    No sweetie, the cases aren’t similar. I live in NY and this case was practically front page news! It did get much attention and it was considered self defense because the father used a METAL SHOVEL and caused a concussion of the valet attendants. It had nothing to do with them being men. When you argue self defense, you need to prove EQUAL FORCE. A slap vs a metal rod are not equivalent. So cut the crap.

  • http://twitter.com/#!/Birdshu Bird

    Lady Progressive

    They assaulted the man and continued to come after him. What should he have done? Taken the jump like a man? Further, I’m not convinced that “metal rod” is what did all the damage. Whatever he’s hitting them with is thin and flimsy. It sounded like they were getting beat with a switch. She probably broke her arm and head in the fall. I know you think the man is the scum of the earth, but what do you have to say for the women? You’re cool with their actions? At what point is a man allowed to defend himself against not one but two women?

  • http://twitter.com/#!/Birdshu Bird

    cute_BIG_gul says:

    ….he should sue McDonalds for this.
    *******************************

    I agree 100%. The girls are damn sure gonna sue. He should sue them too so whatever they get from Mickey D’s comes to him.

  • JMO

    I run new york to law is like Dr. Conrad Murray to medicine. Yes they may work in their respective fields but at time they have no clue when it comes to common sense :nono:

    You can’t tell me that slapping the dog mess out of someone isn’t considered assault. This is the case because it isnt written down somewhere?? Tell that to the families of the men who were killed by those women on that show “Snapped” because they didn’t “defend” themselves.

    Remind me never to go to new york because if anyone touches me, I don’t care what’s written down or defined in the back of your law textbook, Im kicking azz :coffee:

  • http://nwmasssmedia.com So U Fancy Ha? Hehe Only U Think It

    Typical Black women finding entertainment in watching a Black man brutalize a woman :eyeroll:

    Well would a white woman jump up & slap a man or jump behind a counter! Would a white woman be mouthing off while ordering food! Ummm would a white woman act like they a man when there not! Right I thought so…

    White woman screamed stop! Unlike you average simple minded Black women, she realized his behavior was unacceptable.. So I wonder how she felt about the chicks being unruly since they don’t act like that

    Also I don’t think it’s acceptable to murder your kids and throw them in a grave, sell them for crack or try to drown them and blame it on someone else or the sprits made you do it; but folks sure do it :coffee: oh and there kind wish Ill thoughts on them #justsaying

  • BigCityGirl

    I’m not going to OWN NOR SUPPORT someone assaulting a person and acting a fool….whether the FEMALE is Black or WHITE. They went in there asking for trouble and they got it. Once they jumped over the counter…they were on their own and whatever happened they brought in on themselves….I’m NEVER going to SUPPORT ignorance….

  • http://youtu.be/0aCwkF3YWmo YSoSerious

    @IRUN

    The arrogance and condescension in your comments are both insulting and unwarranted. Especially because most of your points are wrong. :coffee:

  • BigCityGirl

    “it on themselves”

  • melEmel

    Lady Progressive says:

    @MelEmel

    No sweetie, the cases aren’t similar. I live in NY and this case was practically front page news! It did get much attention and it was considered self defense because the father used a METAL SHOVEL and caused a concussion of the valet attendants. It had nothing to do with them being men. When you argue self defense, you need to prove EQUAL FORCE. A slap vs a metal rod are not equivalent. So cut the crap.

    @ LadyProgressive:

    Obviously, you didn’t watch the entire video??? Did you see them jump over the counter? Did you see him RUN AWAY and get followed?? That is where it escalated! All bets were off once they jumped behind the counter.
    This has nothing to do with equal force. He used the force necessary to protect himself AFTER they jumped over the counter. But since we quoting the penal code (and I just took the NY bar), let me break it down for you honey!

    NY Penal Code Article 35 Section 10(2)(a): A person may not use deadly physical force upon another person under circumstances specified in subdivision one unless:
    (a) He reasonably believes that such other person is using or about to
    use deadly physical force. Even in such case, however, the actor may not
    use deadly physical force if he knows that he can with complete safety
    as to himself and others avoid the necessity of so doing by retreating;

    He ran away after the slap, (he was retreating). Then AFTER the woman jumped over the counter and ran after him, he grabbed the rod because he believed he was about to get beat down. Do you think the jumped over the counter to hold hands and sing Kumbaya??

    IMO, It is completely reasonable to grab the first thing you can get your hands on to protect yourself from someone who is trying to attack you.

    As for the Bronx case sweetie, it was front page news in NY. It was not front page news everywhere else, like this case! And for your information, when I said the cases were similar, I was comparing the fact that the aggressors in both situations got the worst of it in terms of bodily injury. Yes the valet did get a concussion, but the 18 yr old ended up DEAD!! Maybe its just me, but I would take a concussion over death any day of the week!!

  • melEmel

    *they jumped over the counter

  • lovezoe

    I don’t understand why they got so heated after him saying he needed to authenticate their money. After working in fast food as a teenager, I will not allow my child to work at one. From managers cursing at me, dealing with rude employees, customers, etc., it is just not worth it. Those girls had an audience and they acted a donkey.

  • caligirl

    @ Sandra Rose
    Sandra Rose says:

    To be honest, I laughed out loud the first time I saw this video. Then I showed it to my mom and we both laughed hysterically. We agreed that the two chicks should not have jumped the counter. It wasn’t until I read about their injuries that I felt sorry for them
    _________________
    I have not read all the other post and I’m not. Honestly I laughed too. Why you jumping over the counter like you in Wrestle Mania. He probably did snap, and the beating was way to severe. Folks need to stop tripping on these fast food clerks, they work for min wage and get treated like crap by the patrons and managers. I hope the two women recover.

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2nJoefWJY_c SamYell JacksEm

    @I Run New York is clearly not approaching this situation in terms of “right v wrong”, she’s thinking in terms of “How would I go about winning this case”. It’s obvious these women were the aggressors and the man was acting in self defense. That’s why she keeps saying “on the ground motionless” because she’s trying to steer the argument in a different direction. This is not a court though, and common sense would tell you that trying to show your “lawyering” chops on a blog is an attempt in futility because regular folks see things for what they are and aren’t trying to maneuver through “knowledge of the law” to win an argument. This is why people hold so much disdain for the law and lawyers (depending on what law you practice) in general. Because right v wrong is often not the issue in court, it’s who has the best argument/most money to defend themselves.

    One should not have to show restraint when they are attacked unprovoked. The same way she assumes the women were defenseless when they were on the floor, I would assume that the man thought at the very least, the butch female had a weapon of some sort. The fact that she had the audacity to assault and pursue a man clearly larger than her would leave you to believe she had something to “even the odds”.

    Listing the injuries incurred by the women is irrelevant. The fractured skull could have been incurred on the first swing. There is no way of telling which swing caused which injury. Since his initial reaction was to retreat (he didn’t come into the common area to confront them even AFTER the initial slap) I’d argue that, had they not pursued him, they would’ve been ok and all parties would’ve probably just had a story to tell their friends about.

    For the folks that say equal force should be applied, how would you gauge that? Does a full force slap from a woman equal a 50% force slap from a male? Can he swing with full force but only slap the woman with two fingers? Too many variables for there to be a consensus.

    To people like @Lady Progressive it’s blatant that they can’t separate woman v man from attacker v defender. I’m sure @I Run New York would be looking for you when selecting a jury for this case.

  • SugarPieHoneybunn

    Lady Progressive….go kill yaself you angry, lonely, pitiful broad

  • SugarPieHoneybunn

    I Run NY…. You aint no damn lawyer and this aint no damn courthouse. Obviously u want attention really bad. Why else would you be up in here talkin nonsense? Go read a book and drink a big glass of STFU.

  • I Run New York

    “@I Run New York is clearly not approaching this situation in terms of “right v wrong”, she’s thinking in terms of “How would I go about winning this case”.”

    Not true at all. I think it is WRONG to beat someone with a metal rod whose lying on the ground it just so happens to be illegal as well.

    ” Yes they may work in their respective fields but at time they have no clue when it comes to common sense ”

    You don’t even need to know the law to know that this is not self defense. Common sense tells you beating someone on the ground with a metal rod is not self defense.

    @Carrington. Wonderful you can copy and paste. If you read what you posted you will understand why they were not charged with assault. As was stated a long time ago in this thread assault REQUIRES a physical injury. It is not evident from the tape that he suffered a physical injury from the slap hence why assault is not applicable.

    “SugarPieHoneybunn says:

    I Run NY…. You aint no damn lawyer and this aint no damn courthouse. ”

    You don’t need to be a lawyer to see that this dude is disturbed.

  • I Run New York

    “Lady Progressive says:
    When you argue self defense, you need to prove EQUAL FORCE. A slap vs a metal rod are not equivalent. So cut the crap.”

    WOW, good to see someone whose knowledgeable about self defense. You are exactly right!

  • DragonLeo

    Whether ya’ll believe me or not, McDonald’s is poison. They are putting chemicals in the food that affects. Please people wake up!

  • caligirl

    @I Run New York – WOW! Why are yor statements and responses so agggressive?

  • caligirl

    @Carrington – :clap: :clap:

  • DragonLeo

    McDonald’s food doesn’t even Decompose. Look it up. That’s why people are acting crazy in there establishments. This is not a random event, its happening more and more in McDonald’s all over the nation.

  • http://www.myspace.com/importedfromnowhere lovebites

    They deserve what they got. You cannot run up on anyone and think they are going take it. The world is crazy. Kill people with kindness. And yes i think there is something in the food.

  • BayMami_de4

    This wouldn’t of happened had they not put hands on him and then jumped over the counter and continued to go at him.

  • I Run New York

    “Zoe B. says:

    That was disturbing. Those guys just standing there laughing as they lay on the ground defenseless getting hit with a metal rod. Does anyone care about anyone these days? Everything isn’t funny. Effing lames.”

    NY is very much an everyone for themselves type place. I was actually surprised the white lady was so vocal and tried to stop the beating.

  • carmelcutie

    I have never commented before, but I have to agree with the point I Run New York is making (although he may be going about it a bit rudely). There was a case in GA where two guys tried to rob a pharmacy and the Pharmacist shot and killed one of the robbers. The Pharmacist was charged and convicted of murder because once the intruder was down he kept firing. This was seen as going beyond self-defense and entered into revenge, because the immediate threat was taken away once the victim was on the ground. The law is the law and generally feelings are not taken in account when in the court room, just hard facts as they pertain to the law. This is way Casey Anthony was not convicted…

    #imjustsayn

  • Nyedai

    This reminds me of the little boy(based off his age not life) here in Okc. The pharamist killed him and everyone was split on self defense and intent. Either way a life was lost and an ego was brused. Women stay in a Woman’s place regardless of your sexuality. Men always respect a woman even when we forget to respect ourselves! #dropsmicgoesbacktolurking#

  • carmelcutie

    BTW…I meank OK not GA…It’s late 🙂

  • http://youtu.be/EyiYdrc2e9Y tierraboo618

    I used to work in fast food when I was in high school. Customers act a darn fool over food or having to wait. I remember this man stood in the long line at the airport Burger King that was out the concourse. Once he made it to the front of the line, he cursed out the cashier, smacked her, and threw his food in her face. He was arrested, but she didn’t press charges. People forget that the shoe could be on the other foot. MSG :snort: got’em crazy… 😡

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KvyMqZFBzXc&feature=related datsmdubya2u

    @ So U Fancy

    So U Fancy Ha? Hehe Only U Think It says

    Typical Black women finding entertainment in watching a Black man brutalize a woman

    Well would a white woman jump up & slap a man or jump behind a counter! Would a white woman be mouthing off while ordering food! Ummm would a white woman act like they a man when there not! Right I thought so…

    White woman screamed stop! Unlike you average simple minded Black women, she realized his behavior was unacceptable.. So I wonder how she felt about the chicks being unruly since they don’t act like that

    Also I don’t think it’s acceptable to murder your kids and throw them in a grave, sell them for crack or try to drown them and blame it on someone else or the sprits made you do it; but folks sure do it oh and there kind wish Ill thoughts on them #justsaying

    —————————-

    Intense is that you?

  • Mamacita

    @I run new york You’re obviously a horrible lawyer because out of the 4728642847 comments you posted you only convinced about 3 ppl to side with you. :coffee:

    And what’s with your disdain for the south?

    Not only are you a crappy lawyer but you’re ignorant as well. Bad combo.

  • Jessie

    It was self-defense. Act like a lady and let the man do his job and stuff like this wouldn’t happen. I have been to plenty of stores where there authenticate large bills. It’s not a big deal and certainly nothing to get upset about. That manly chick needs to understand that she is NOT a man and when you decide to roll up on a man like that, he is going to kick that ass!

  • EJLOVE

    And the ish is STILL funny… the deserved every damn injury they got…running behind the counter after a man…

  • MSVALLDAY

    I’m not saying he’s right but I understand! Where he went wrong was once they were off of him and on the ground he shouldn’t have continued to hit them. However, you could tell from the video that they were still talking trash on the ground. This is the problem with thinking your a man when your really not. All these people on here that are saying these chicks were right are trippin. They were just as wrong as he was. Which is why they did receive charges, what they did was wrong!

  • Mamacita

    And it’s obvious that no one cared about the safety of the man but HIM. No one was screaming stop or trying to diffuse the situation until they were assaulted. Why didn’t anyone scream stop when they slapped him? Why didn’t any one try to stop them when they jumped the counter? Why is it only when HE reacted that people felt the need to step in?

    I’m convinced that people enjoy watching women beat on men. Had this been a female cashier and two MEN slapped her and jumped the counter I’m sure the comments would have a totally different tone and her pummeling them with a metal rod would be justified. :rollseyes: They deserve EVERYTHING they got.

    SMH men are always getting the short end of the stick. Now had he done nothing and allowed the women to beat his a*s he would labeled a punk and weak. So dumb.

  • http://twitter.com/#!/Birdshu Bird

    I Run New York says:

    As was stated a long time ago in this thread assault REQUIRES a physical injury.
    ****************************

    Now what now??? I though folks were saying you were a lawyer. OJ Simpson was tried for assualt after taking a man’s glasses out of his hand during a road rage incident. Remember that?

    From Wikipedia…

    In law, assault is a crime causing a victim to fear violence. The term is often confused with battery, which is the actual “touching”. The specific meaning of assault varies between countries, but can refer to an act that causes another to apprehend immediate and personal violence, or in the more limited sense of a threat of violence caused by an immediate show of force.[1][2] Assault in some US jurisdictions[which?] is defined more broadly still as any intentional physical contact with another person without their consent.
    **********************************

    What jurisidiction do you live in where slapping someone is not considered assualt? After reading about this story on multiple sites I see that there are two versions of the tape out there. One only shows the man spanking them with the skinny metal thing and doesn’t show what lead up to that moment.

  • melEmel

    Mamacita says:

    And it’s obvious that no one cared about the safety of the man but HIM. No one was screaming stop or trying to diffuse the situation until they were assaulted. Why didn’t anyone scream stop when they slapped him? Why didn’t any one try to stop them when they jumped the counter? Why is it only when HE reacted that people felt the need to step in?

    I’m convinced that people enjoy watching women beat on men. Had this been a female cashier and two MEN slapped her and jumped the counter I’m sure the comments would have a totally different tone and her pummeling them with a metal rod would be justified. :rollseyes: They deserve EVERYTHING they got.

    SMH men are always getting the short end of the stick. Now had he done nothing and allowed the women to beat his a*s he would labeled a punk and weak. So dumb!

    My points exactly!

  • Femme Fatale

    Disclaimer:
    I was not laughing at the two trouble seekers. I was not laughing at them as they were screaming and cowering in the corner. I do not find their injuries funny. Nor was I laughing at the blond lady, who stepped forth and yelled in protest.

    I was laughing at the swing technique the young man used. Them blows was coming like rapid fire.

  • I Run New York

    “Now what now??? I though folks were saying you were a lawyer. OJ Simpson was tried for assualt after taking a man’s glasses out of his hand during a road rage incident.”

    That did not take place in NY and has nothing to do with the definition of assault in NY. You do know that definitions of legal terms are state specific. What does Cali or whatever state that happened in have to do with NY, the place of this incident?

    “What jurisidiction do you live in where slapping someone is not considered assualt?”

    NY, the jurisdiction of this incident. If you’d like to familiarize yourself with the definition of assault in NY and understand why the DA didn’t charge the women with assault for slapping him you can look no further than this thread. NY’s definition of assault has been posted twice. God bless.

    “@I run new york You’re obviously a horrible lawyer because out of the 4728642847 comments you posted you only convinced about 3 ppl to side with you. ”

    LMAO I’m not trying to convince anyone of anything, I’ve explained some things, yes, people in this thread have asked me a number of questions, like why the women weren’t charged with assault. Since I have some expertise in the area I’ve answered them, whether you accept the answers or not is beyond me. The District Attorney’s actions in this case mirror everything that I have said, whether random people on the internet accept something I say is not particularly pertinent. I comment on a blog to kill time, distract me from homework, amusement, have a lively discussion, not to try to convince strangers of something. In real life I “convince” judges, chatting on an internet blog is not that lol

    and with that I gotta go, it’s been real lol.

  • http://twitter.com/SayItaIntSoJoe8 Atypical

    I’m sorry but these women got exactly what was coming to them. Prior felon or not, what was he supposed to do? Just sit there and let them slap the hell out of him? Yeah ok, this was self defense all day(IMO) and if I was on that jury I’d acquit faster than you could say #boo…. :coffee:

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KvyMqZFBzXc&feature=related datsmdubya2u

    If they had jumped the counter to rob the place and he did the same thing he woulda been a hero. Protect the corporation? Hero. Protect himself?
    Charged with Assault

  • Anna

    So U Fancy Ha? Hehe Only U Think It says:

    Well, I guess the 50$ was fake I don’t see why they got so upset about him doing his job. So if they went in to the beauty supply and the man did it there would they had jump him to. Then he would have kunfu’d they ass to.

    I just wanna know do we want to be equal to men or treated like a woman? I feel like we try to have it both ways and you can’t. Be a lady at all times or get treated like who you are trying to be at all times. #justsaying

    ~~~~~~~~~`
    LOL for him thinking the money was fake. I guess he would know.
    A woman wants to be treated equal as a man, but reality is we are not. I get mad at women who say you can have it all, and balance all. Not true. I don’t care if you have billions of dollars, have a Nanny, have a Nanny for the Nanny, no one can balance it all. Why you ask? Because ppl are always going to want more. I work, I have 3 kids, 1 1/2 still lives here. I have a grand kid and a bonus grand. I get them every weekend. I am the grandma sitter, who needs a babysitter when I want to go out w/my husband, and the only chance we get to go out is on the weekend. I don’t balance, I MANAGE. Going to work for me is a Vacation, but I still can’t wait to get back home to my crazy family at the end of the day. A woman, just like a black man will NEVER be treated equally. It is what it is. Back on topic. The man in the vid had every right to defend, ex con or not. I don’t condone it, but also at the same time ppl are mad that he got a job and is a felon. If you give them a J O B, they are less likely to rob, kill, or rape you. LOL. It’s called Insurance.

  • isabella1881

    All I can say is Oh MY God! This makes me soooo sad! I pray that the women make a full recovery. See, you can’t mess with people, because you never know what they are capable of. So sad

  • Chamu

    They got what they deserved, sheesh you wanna confront someone and slap ppl around then cry when ur ass gets handed to you..

  • ShoYaRight

    *paging attymom, paging attymom*

  • free

    i was at home smdh at i run new york. i mean, do people who work in the DA’s office think like THAT?

    police officers are entitled to kill INNOCENT people in NY because they are “afraid” for their lives but an innocent man doing his damn job can’t pop two broads who ASSAULT (idgaf what the legal definition is) and chase him with a stick to make them stay down until the authorities come.

    and this white bytch screaming stop. i mean, if NYers are so immune to violence, why is this broad screaming at the top of her lungs like it’s the end of the world?

    anyway, if there is a defense fund for dude, i’m contributing to it. i hope the jurors will do the right thing in this case and let dude get on with his life.

  • ms_no-no

    Although I don’t condone violence against women, I used to work the fast food industry when I was younger and people are just RUDE. They believe that just because you work in a fast food restaurant, that gives them license to be nasty. The cashier was just doing his job when he told them he had to authenticate the $50.00 bill that they had given him, but they attacked him first; double teamed him as a matter of fact and why didn’t any of his co-workers come and help him so he wouldn’t have had to pull out a steel rod?

    To paraphrase an old saying ‘Never mess with anyone that is handling your food’. They were the aggressors and if they were bold enough to jump behind the counter, there is no telling what they were capable of and he may have been in fear of his life. He has my vote!!

  • GAGIRL87

    Okay first I can’t see the video it’s been removed from youtube but from Sandra’s post I must say he was doing his job just tryna see if the $50 was real. Second men and women need to stop running up on folks cuz you never know if that person is crazy, case in point ole boy they had NO CLUE that they was about to get they azz beat to sleep literally… I hope they are ok though.

  • GAGIRL87

    melEmel says:

    Mamacita says:

    And it’s obvious that no one cared about the safety of the man but HIM. No one was screaming stop or trying to diffuse the situation until they were assaulted. Why didn’t anyone scream stop when they slapped him? Why didn’t any one try to stop them when they jumped the counter? Why is it only when HE reacted that people felt the need to step in?

    I’m convinced that people enjoy watching women beat on men. Had this been a female cashier and two MEN slapped her and jumped the counter I’m sure the comments would have a totally different tone and her pummeling them with a metal rod would be justified. They deserve EVERYTHING they got.

    SMH men are always getting the short end of the stick. Now had he done nothing and allowed the women to beat his a*s he would labeled a punk and weak. So dumb!

    My points exactly!

    _________________________________________________________________

    :cosign:

  • MrUnapologetic

    See… This is a classic case of “messing with the wrong person.” I saw the video as well before reading the story here and I’ve also been to that McDonalds in The Village several times – it’s busy place, 24hr established with NO type of security. What these chicks did was foolish and seemingly a death wish thus making it difficult to have sympathy for them; they’re NOT victims so let’s be clear about that. What I thought was interesting was the way McIntosh quickly responded – it was instinctual and from the gut. It makes sense now to hear he’s spent 10 years in prison because in there one wrong move could cost you your life and you have to be ready at all times. This is so unfortunate on all ends…

  • http://smokiesays.blogspot.com/ Smokie

    Punks jump up to get beat down…

  • precious1

    My brother when he was yonnger was a manager at Popeyes! Two thugs rolled up in there started drama and hopped the counter. My brother slung hot chicken and grease on them. They were injured and inthe end ny brother won because it was self defense AND they were trespassing!!

  • Ty

    Mamacita says:

    And it’s obvious that no one cared about the safety of the man but HIM. No one was screaming stop or trying to diffuse the situation until they were assaulted. Why didn’t anyone scream stop when they slapped him? Why didn’t any one try to stop them when they jumped the counter? Why is it only when HE reacted that people felt the need to step in?

    I’m convinced that people enjoy watching women beat on men. Had this been a female cashier and two MEN slapped her and jumped the counter I’m sure the comments would have a totally different tone and her pummeling them with a metal rod would be justified. They deserve EVERYTHING they got.

    SMH men are always getting the short end of the stick. Now had he done nothing and allowed the women to beat his a*s he would labeled a punk and weak. So dumb!

    My points exactly!
    ____________________________________________
    I agree 100% which is why I asked would McIntosh’s actions be justified if it were two males that attacked him.

  • pointhimout

    IDK. what’s with guys standing around filming and laughing as women get beaten, slapped, hit, etc? what is that about? They better hope to the Gods above their sisters, mom, aunts, nieces, etc never endure this. Amazing the things we laugh at until we’re the victim. I’m so tired of these ignorant young black males.

  • AllNYC

    If two wildebeests jump a barrier to attack me, I’m grabbing whatever is handy and beating them until the white meat shows.
    I was attacked on a subway car in full view of people. The attack didn’t end until the perpetrator was on the ground and I was kicking him in the head. If I cracked his skull, I still sleep well at night.
    What’s this with people standing around watching ANYONE get assaulted, male OR female?
    Seems like he struck them in self-defense. They just got the worst of the it. Next time they’ll fight the urge to hit others.

  • free

    MrUnapologetic says: What I thought was interesting was the way McIntosh quickly responded – it was instinctual and from the gut. It makes sense now to hear he’s spent 10 years in prison because in there one wrong move could cost you your life and you have to be ready at all times

    ***************************************************

    exactly, he went in at 19, basically became a man in the system so you know what went down.

    like my mother-in-law (rip) used to say, “beat ’em till they stop wriggling”.

  • http://chokolatemilk.blogspot.com Choco aka Hippie

    The females should’ve let him do his job however he didn’t have to beat them so severely – what da hail was the co-worker doing next to him in the third pic he acts as if he doesn’t see a thing

  • PAHairston

    Hello All. I’ll take some ketchup with that medal rod. LOL These 2 girls got just what they were asking for, should have stayed on their side of the counter, clear and simple. After all, isn’t there a natl campaign against bullying going on in the country today? SMH

  • Urbanrose

    My question is this….. If it had been two black dudes that jumped over the counter would the outcome or response be same…..clearly not. I am so tired of women asking for equality but when it benefits them they want to be spared because of their sex. The thing is women are much smarter than men and what these women knew was that mercy was going to be given to them, however they thought the mercy would come from this cashier and unfortunately the mercy is coming from people with opinions who had to watch the result of women making a dumb decision. I always say I dont hit a man and I dont expect for them to hit me but if I ever jump froggy then I should expect to get FROGGED. IJS