A grassroots campaign prompted by outraged Americans on Facebook and other social media has failed to secure the release of former McDonald's cashier, Rayon McIntosh, from Rikers Island.

McIntosh, 31, was arrested On October 12, 2011, after a wild fight with two female customers at the Greenwich Village McDonald's where he worked.

The fracas was caught on camera by a McDonald's customer who uploaded the video to YouTube. McIntosh was charged with two counts of felony assault and criminal possession of a weapon, while his attackers, Denise Darbeau and Rachel Edwards, both 24, were charged with menacing, disorderly conduct and trespassing.

Darbeau suffered a fractured skull and broken arm. She is permanently brain damaged, according to her mother.

Rayon's mother, Maureen Lucas, RN, a registered nurse, described McIntosh, who emigrated from Jamaica when he was a boy, as "a loving father who has an excellent relationship" with his 11-year-old daughter and the girl's mother.

She thanked her son's thousands of supporters on the family's official website, http://www.helpfreerayonmcintosh.org.

"Not one of my son’s fellow employees or a manager stepped in to stop Rachel Edwards from attacking my son," wrote Lucas, who added that Rayon subdued his attackers with "a small cooking utensil."

Mrs. Lucas said Rayon, who served 11 years in prison on a manslaughter charge, took the job at McDonald's "because he has a daughter to support and after missing 11 years of her life he wanted to make up for it the best way he knew how."

Denise Darbeau's father also spoke out in an interview with DNAinfo.com. "Although she was culpable, the attack itself was vicious and it shouldn't have happened," Gerald Darbeau told DNAinfo. "When he hit my daughter, she was out the first time. There was no reason to hit her again."

"People are saying it was provoked, but where does provocation stop and a vicious assault begin?" the victim's father added.

Rayon's plight has attracted the support of hundreds of sympathizers on message boards and social media who believe Rayon had the right to defend himself from attackers who jumped the counter and went after him at his workplace. So far the public's efforts to raise 10% of Rayon's $40,000 bail ($4000) has not succeeded.

Rayon's mother worries that her son won't be released from jail before Thanksgiving.

She wrote:

While there are some who bitterly scourge Rayon McIntosh because of his past mistakes, we are grateful to the thousands of members of the public who have expressed support for my sons’ right to defend himself against an unprovoked attack. With your financial support, the Help Free Rayon McIntosh Fund will be able to get him home in time to spend Thanksgiving Day with his 11 year old daughter!

Yours sincerely,

Maureen Lucas, RN (Mother of Rayon McIntosh)
Co-Chairperson, Help Free Rayon McIntosh Fund

Contact number: 845-596-5990 / Email: info@helpfreerayonmcintosh.com

Rayon McIntosh's next court date: 9:30am, November 28, 2011 (Manhattan Criminal Court Building @ 100 Centre Street).

  • MsOnederful

    His mother is a RN and can't put up (maybe a property) for her son. Sounds like she may not trust him herself. GM SR fam! Good Morning Auntie!

  • http://sandrarose.com Sandra Rose

    I bet the money that's been raised so far is going to the lawyers to pay their fees. :no:

  • http://sandrarose.com Sandra Rose

    @ MsOnederful: good morning, hun. She's probably renting, or maybe she's already in debt.

  • lovezoe

    Not everyone has 4K laying around and not everyone who has a "good" job owns or wants to own property. Where is Rev. Al when you need him?

    I will say I don't blame anyone for NOT stepping in. If I see someone attacking someone, I will not step in. I am looking for the closest exit while I am calling 5-0.

  • Tatted Diva AKA The Makeup Maven

    Good morning FAM! IMO, I do think he should be released, but unfortunately, he's not going to be released......I'm not judging him on his past, but let's be real here. He served 11 years on a manslaughter charge. That sounds like he just got out not too long ago. They are not just going to let him walk out them doors like that! Even though I feel he should be set free for this...he was defending himself, the "unjustice" system do not see it that way. He's a "repeat" offender!

    THESE MAN MADE LAWS, I TELL YA! :coffee:

  • http://www.myspace.com/importantblackwomen Necelove

    I honestly don't think no one will rush to come to his aide for helping with bail money. Money is tight right now, the Holidays are coming and people just don't want to get involved when it comes to money. Usually when are kids go to jail, the parents do what ever we can do to get our child out. But it seems like someone else put this support site up, not the mother. This is the first we are hearing from her, or maybe I'm wrong. Both parties were wrong. The girls had no right to assault him and he could of used his hands defend himself. I wish every one well.

    Good Morning Everyone! :waves:

  • lovezoe

    I know people who are high-ranking officers in the military who didn't become homeowners until they were in their 40s-50s. My main concern would be finding him a competent lawyer.

  • Honycoatd—Going off a feeling, I see you!!!

    Reading the mother's back story is heart touching. So many can relate to this story. And crazy enough there was never a security guard on duty too for a late night McDonald's like that. Although, I am not knowledgeable in the world of fast food restaurants,I believe they should have had a security guard too on duty especially a place opened so late. I can say the fear is within me and no parent wants to see this happen to their child (at least the ones I know and associate with). He has been in my prayers and will continue to be. Hope this system can get it together.

  • MzTisch

    Morning everyone! :D

    lovezoe says:

    I know people who are high-ranking officers in the military who didn’t become homeowners until they were in their 40s-50s. My main concern would be finding him a competent lawyer.

    ^^^^^^^^
    I agree, and my sis-in-law is a RN. They move every year, and be getting furniture and tv's from Aaron's and RentaCenter. So, the mother being a nurse doesn't necessarily mean she's got it like that. But, on the other hand my sis-in-law and brother live beyond their means trying to keep up with the Joneses. That's their problem....:shrug:

  • EB

    I hope they can raise the money to get him out.

    McDonalds is having a bad year. People getting slapped, ran over in the parking lot, and beat behind the counter. Plus the brought back the McRib :no:

  • Honycoatd—Going off a feeling, I see you!!!

    @ MsOnederful

    Hi Mami and Hi Fammies :hug: Good morning.

    I can speak from my knowledge with my mother being from the Caribbean. Many immigrants that come to America from small islands other than Cuba do not get all these assistance like the Cubans do. They come here and basically they start from scratch. And yes the mother is a RN but it is not even stated how long she has been. Many times they work their way up to RN but being a Home care giver or possibly a nurse aide and only after being in the hospital environment so long do they get the help from the hospitals to continue education since they are hands on and know what to do but never got certification. Also in New York, a small percent of minority in the metro area actually owns their homes.

  • lovezoe

    I hate to be stereotypical, but just like Wal-Mart, McDonalds attracts certain types of people. While the majority that consume their are fine, those others just ugh. You don't hear about stuff like this at Chick Fil A. Never have I encountered an attitude at a Chick Fil A and only once at Target. I reported her tail with the quickness.

  • llogan82

    I believe if they would have just kept the McRib around these things never would have happened people are frustrated :blink:

  • Hershey

    I think he over reacted with brute force. It's one thing to defend yourself, but to savagely beat two women who were unarmed is wrong. I think he should stay where he is. They did start it, but they used they're hands...and spit (ewwww) they just unfortunately got the short end of the stick...no pun intended...

  • Honycoatd—Going off a feeling, I see you!!!

    Well places like that probably don't offer much and sad to say the ones desperate to keep afloat end up working there. @ Lovezoe

    P.S. I donate because I want either for this man to get a good lawyer or let him go home. He was defending himself from 2 wannabes and showing out hoodrats.

  • Honycoatd—Going off a feeling, I see you!!!

    @ Hershey

    What is too much though when you are in fear? Prime example and I am not trying to be harsh but look at September 11. Some of those people "willing" jumped out the windows and yes you "logical" looking at it will say "why do that when your going to die" but do you think those people were thinking of that? They are trying to protect themselves out of fear. Yes, a few of us might think in the mist of it "chit what am I doing" and stop themselves but for those that don't why should we treat them different if they were protecting themselves out of fear?

  • lovezoe

    I don't know what to think. I know for ME, if I feel in danger I am going to do whatever it takes to put you down so you can not attack me until proper authorities arrive. Question: If someone walks into your house right now that you didn't invite and posed harm to you, would you shoot him in the knees or go for the torso shot, if you thought he was getting up would you shoot again or wait and see what he was going to do?

  • MsOnederful

    :waves: back to Auntie @Honey coat'd hey Bew thang! When I see RN I instantly think they make at least $38-50 an hour so money should be a non issue. You know Auntie is a Registered Nurse as well. I don't know what the pay is in the south for Health Care practitioners, but auntie knows RN's make bread! Well I would hope almost the same $ or close to the North's pay rate. Now considering they are from the islands she probably did start late (the rn degree) and probably is not married :( or in Debt, living in NYC lawd knows the majority of people living there are struggling even with good paying jobs or not (hence Occupy Wall street) Jus a lil surprised the $ has not been raised yet...

  • vero

    Morning Ladies !!! :waves:

  • Honycoatd—Going off a feeling, I see you!!!

    @ Lovezoe

    Exactly I am in full agreement. Many would not be shooting him in the hand, or foot. You are endangered and you are going to do all it takes to make sure "YOU ARE SAFE!!!!!!."

  • sdsthomas

    WOW! I don't know about this one guys! I agree with the girls father... although they were both culpable, he went overboard. They were down and he kept beating them. He allowed those prison survival tendancies to come out and he went just a little overboard! He did a little more than defend himself.

  • Honycoatd—Going off a feeling, I see you!!!

    @ MsOnederful

    Yes and to add she might be even taking care of her parents back home. It happens so often.

  • Traigo Fuego

    I know this McDnalds very well. It's very popular and a huge tourist spot in NYC. It's right down the street from NYU. Tons of clubs and upscale restaurants are right on the same block. Because this place is popular "hang out" area that large numbers of people traffic after long nights of drinking a lot of ish happens around there. I've seen a lot of crazy ish there (Mostly funny. never that serious) and have frequented the spot on many late nights coming from the BlueNote or comedy club. Young kats come there to chill before they go on their way. A lot of drug users and homeless pass through their as well. I don;t blame dude for protecting himself. It might have been extreme but when your adrenaline is pumping... and some MF that is trying to attack you keeps trying to get up and reach up after you, ain't no telling what you may do to keep them at bay.

    The female's father has a right to be upset but he should realize his daughter brought it on herself. I'm sorry for the result but...

  • free

    lovezoe says: Question: If someone walks into your house right now that you didn’t invite and posed harm to you, would you shoot him in the knees or go for the torso shot, if you thought he was getting up would you shoot again or wait and see what he was going to do?

    *********************************************

    shoot them until they stop wriggling.

  • Honycoatd—Going off a feeling, I see you!!!

    How can people say he did too much to defend himself? Defending is defending is it unfortunately those idiots did not think first before going after him. And if he did not use a utensil to beat their asses and it was a gun and he only shot once at each and it was fatal, would some still be singing he went overboard since it was just 1 shot that was fatal or 1 or both? Or is it just that he was scared and if you come for me once or will again and I am going to do all I need to do that will protect me.

  • free

    that girl's father should be blaming himself for how he raised her. me nor my siblings slap, spit on, or jump over counters, even when we are drunk. he has probably seen or been aware of her doing this a number of times. i don't believe it was chick's first run-in with somebody.

  • Honycoatd—Going off a feeling, I see you!!!

    Vero Wang

    Hi beautiful :hug: How are you this morning? Feeling better?

  • lovezoe

    shoot them until they stop wriggling.
    __________________________________

    @Exactly! Although I am a liberal til death, I agree 10000% with Stand Your Ground laws.

  • Honycoatd—Going off a feeling, I see you!!!

    @ Free

    then if some of these people were your jurors if you got arrested, you would never be "FREE" again. :rofl:

  • renegadesince1985

    I don't know what world some of you live in...but RN's don't make "bank" as you call it. With the way the economy is now, lots of people are living check to check. Furthermore, many people in NYC don't actually own their homes...they rent.

    S/N...I hate when people say "from the islands"...annoys me to no end! :mad:

    I didn't realize they spit on him! :shocked: That in itself would have made me black out and kill somebody...ultimate disrespect.

  • luVn_liFe…

    Hershey says:
    I think he over reacted with brute force. It’s one thing to defend yourself, but to savagely beat two women who were unarmed is wrong. I think he should stay where he is. They did start it, but they used they’re hands…and spit (ewwww) they just unfortunately got the short end of the stick…no pun intended…
    :cosign:

  • lovezoe

    Sorry, when you got a brute of a chick that outweighs you by probably 50lbs, you got to do what you got to do.

  • Honycoatd—Going off a feeling, I see you!!!

    @ Rene

    :rofl: Yes I agree spitting on me would have me trying to kill you. Some not even know how to clean their mouth properly with tongue included so imagining someone spitting on you if like pissing in your face. Not acceptable.

  • lovezoe

    Spitting on me will cause me to black out. That is about the vilest, nastiest, most disrespectful thing a person can do. I would lose all control. Just nasty.

  • vero

    HoRny, Feeling great !
    soon, i'm gonna have a 5-day weekend. can't be better :D
    How are you?

  • singer25

    I blame this on the Caramel Mocha Frappe

    I was having one of those once everyday on the days when I couldnt get one I would go crazy....I had to stop getting them it was turning into an addiction.....

    I still feel sorry for dude he served his time for what he did in the past and he moved on put I guess thats still holding him back....

    Have a happy day family

  • singer25

    Yeah Spitting on someone is wrong

    My other half just called me and told me a consumer that he transport to and from her day program spit on him today he said he wanted to slam her ass but he just called her mother and told her to get off the bus...

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2nJoefWJY_c SamYell JacksEm

    The same way people continue to assume he attacked them while they were "defenseless" on the ground I'll assume that the "women" had or were reaching for a boxcutter or some type of razor. It's more common than you think for these types to carry those sorts of weapons.

  • Honycoatd—Going off a feeling, I see you!!!

    Sad part now, people will "label" him since he is an immigrant and I know all too well about some "Americans" views on immigrants. Not all immigrants are terrible horrible criminals. Many really just come here to work and have the "idea" that America is the place to do it to provide a life for their families in different parts of the world.

    I am a proud British/American (since I too have been here since a child)and I never deny my parentage.

  • Mamacita

    This story pisses me off :mad:

    If you wanna jump over the counter like an ANIMAL, then you should get beat like one. That's how I see it and I'm sure that's what he was thinking.

    People always say what they "would" do until the sh*t happends to them. Let's see how you react when you're being attacked...

  • GAGIRL87

    KEEP YOUR HANDS TO YOURSELF, KEEP YOUR HANDS TO YOURSELF :whistle:

    Blues Clues chant that I teach my 5 year old on the daily... :coffee:

  • iheart405

    It really sucks that he is only being judged on his past and not the fact that he was defending himself at HIS place of work :nono:

  • MsOnederful

    @Traigo Fuego
    YES! That Mc'Ds is legendary lol! I rolled an L in there YEARS AGO! well the Bathroom! Then went over to fat pussy cat or something puzzy club over there! Its like 3 doors down from Mcd's

    @Renegade says:

    S/N…I hate when people say “from the islands”…annoys me to no end!

    So what should we say about coming from the Islands? Just say West Indians instead huh? And the reason why I THINK RN's make bank is because my grandmother was an RN and she did very well financially! Hell I thought she was almost rich working from a RN's salary when i was a teenager. Maybe NOW! Being an RN isn't wat it used to be.

  • GAGIRL87

    O and I will be donating for the cause I'm not saying he's 100% right he could have handled the siuation better but nobody told them chicks to put their hands on him FIRST you bad enough to take a lick then be bad enough to get hit point blank period...

  • Honycoatd—Going off a feeling, I see you!!!

    Another sad thing too is they are judging him based on his place of employment. Like people that work at fast food restaurants don't deserve respect. If it was an office building and there 2 hoodrats were acting like that--- People would have a clearer mind to see that these 2 ruffnecks were the aggressors. And it is sad to see that all these elements are playing a role when the man was doing his job even if it was at McDonalds.

  • iheart405

    Goodmorning errbody :waves:

  • MrUnapologetic

    @MsOnederful says:
    His mother is a RN and can’t put up (maybe a property) for her son. Sounds like she may not trust him herself.
    ___________________________________________________________________
    As a resident of New York I think it's safe to assume she may not own any property. Also, like Sandy said, she's probably renting. NYC is one of the most expensive places to live ESPECIALLY if you're trying to live someone decent. I pray the courts have mercy on that brother...

  • HoneyDip aka QueenSJ

    sdsthomas says:

    WOW! I don’t know about this one guys! I agree with the girls father… although they were both culpable, he went overboard. They were down and he kept beating them. He allowed those prison survival tendancies to come out and he went just a little overboard! He did a little more than defend himself.
    ______________________________________________________________________
    Ummm....FUGG that! How do you go overboard when 2 people slap you, spit on you, and then proceed to jump over the counters coming after you? Just because they were down doesn't mean they still weren't a threat. "Playing dead" is a tactic itself! Like someone else said, they could have had a gun. You don't have to be up, well, and on your two feet to shoot someone....

  • lexdiamonz

    lovezoe says:

    I hate to be stereotypical, but just like Wal-Mart, McDonalds attracts certain types of people. While the majority that consume their are fine, those others just ugh. You don’t hear about stuff like this at Chick Fil A. Never have I encountered an attitude at a Chick Fil A and only once at Target. I reported her tail with the quickness

    :cosign:

    also while i am on the fence about what he did she thought she was bad and jumped her azz across the counter he didn't know if she had a knife, gun, acid, etc.. and he just did a DIME in the pen .. he probably had a jailhouse flashback and lost it but the ISSUE here that needs to be addressed is homegirl looked like a stud to me and i am sorry but some of these girls are VERY aggressive and think they are men and can also fight like men and they need to stop it before some one else gets hurt... i don't care how many button downs and tims you wear U ARE NOT A MAN STOP IT!!!!!! just like CHAZ BONO please you look like a girl with a beard if you want me to call u a man fine i will but STOP IT ......

  • lovezoe

    As said earlier, they came looking for an altercation. Who goes off about someone having to verify your money is real. Most fast-food joints don't even take bills larger than 20. If that bill was fake, guess who check it would have came out of? Any time by drawer was short, I got docked for it.

  • iheart405

    IMO, Once she jumped over the counter that man had every right to defend himself. She was threating to cut him so he didnt know whether she was coming to harm him or not. People need to stop making it about these "defenseless" women and look at the situation for what it is.SMH

  • MsOnederful

    Honycoatd---Going off a feeling, I see you!!! says:

    Another sad thing too is they are judging him based on his place of employment. Like people that work at fast food restaurants don’t deserve respect. If it was an office building and there 2 hoodrats were acting like that— People would have a clearer mind to see that these 2 ruffnecks were the aggressors. And it is sad to see that all these elements are playing a role when the man was doing his job even if it was at McDonalds.

    :preach: SIS i swear when I am in the drive thru at some Mcdonalds the customers in front and behind me will belittle the person on the speaker. That is the worst. I'm like yall don't know that person your getting smart with. Better hope they don't spit in your food! Just disrespectful. They getting smart cuz the person "works" at mcdonalds. I treat everyone with respect whether its at mcdonalds or a Sak's 5th ave Clerk. No need to be disrespectful. People sometime don't show respect because of a place where a person works and that's just sad. SMFH

  • renegadesince1985

    There are hundreds of islands in the world...he's from one island...Jamaica...it says it there in the article. At least say Caribbean...damn :coffee:

  • lexdiamonz

    . I treat everyone with respect whether its at mcdonalds or a Sak’s 5th ave Clerk. No need to be disrespectful. People sometime don’t show respect because of a place where a person works and that’s just sad. SMFH

    :clap:

    I worked at Mcdonalds while i was getting my masters heck it was the only night job i could find.....lol bottom line treat people like u want to be treated i am started to think they were trying to get their mcrib with monopoly money otherwise why would they get mad about the $50 getting checked it's NYC for God's sake I went to the bodega and they verified a 20!!!!!

  • lexdiamonz

    started *means* starting

  • RoderickXYZ

    Hershey says:

    I think he over reacted with brute force. It’s one thing to defend yourself, but to savagely beat two women who were unarmed is wrong. I think he should stay where he is. They did start it, but they used they’re hands…and spit (ewwww) they just unfortunately got the short end of the stick…no pun intended…
    _________________________________________________________________________

    Are you kidding? That bytch after assaulting him spit on him.

    Do you understand that saliva is a bodily fluid and can carry all sorts of diseases and even if hresn't spitting on another person is considered the ultimate insult.

    I live in the West Palm Beach FL area and I stopped at a Popeye's a couple of months ago and when I gave the manager a $5 bill dude put his pen to it.

    I was like damn they're counterfeiting $5's now? But I didn't punch him or verbally assault him. I actually laughed to myself and just shrugged it off and thought to myself 'times is hard'.

    That's the same thing this hyped up ho should have done but she went gansta and got her skull split which is unfortunate but don't start ish you can't finish.

  • MrsMommy

    The link listed returned to my mailbox as undeliverable.

    The email address needs to be updated so people can help this man.

  • MrsMommy

    Hershey says:
    I think he over reacted with brute force. It’s one thing to defend yourself, but to savagely beat two women who were unarmed is wrong. I think he should stay where he is. They did start it, but they used they’re hands…and spit (ewwww) they just unfortunately got the short end of the stick…no pun intended…
    ------------------------------------------------------------------------

    They hit (slapped), spit, screamed at and threatened the McDonald's employee, and called him all kinds of puxxay's, and then jumped the counter.

    They unnecessarily created a hostile and dangerous environment for everyone concerned. How was the man or any of the restaurant patrons to know whether they had weapons on them? They seemed hyped up enough to be on some sort of mind-altering drugs.

    At what point were they acting as innocents and upstanding citizens in your eyes?

  • Genia

    First let me say it's unfortunante that one of the women has brain damage (I read reports stating they are unable to tell if it is permanent)...To paint them in a sympathic light is as ridiciulous as feeling sorry for an arsones who gets burnt by his own fire.

    How can anyone gage these two women's intent when they came after this man. Who can say...had he not protected himself...where he would be today. In your workplace...there are boundries..(seen and unseen). if someone aggressively invades that space....you would react. These women are actually lucky he wasn't near some hot qrease.

    He is 31...he spent all of his 20's in prison..humbled himself to work at mcdonalds instead of using the typical x-con excuse of "no one will hire me"....

    I am praying for this family. I am praying for this young man

  • Genia

    oh my forgive my typos!!!!

  • Hershey

    @ Honeycoatd and MrsMommy...and others

    Just my opinion...it was a verbal confrontation, that they did escalate by spitting and slapping. Yes, he had EVERY right to defend himself, but not to the point of nearly murdering someone. I can say I would have did this and that, but to me he snapped, and went to far. Once he cracked them with the spatula, why keep going? That was over kill. There's a difference between defending and protecting yourself and straight beating the ish outta a broad...and home boy did the latter

  • Genia

    Hershey says:
    I think he over reacted with brute force. It’s one thing to defend yourself, but to savagely beat two women who were unarmed is wrong. I think he should stay where he is. They did start it, but they used they’re hands…and spit (ewwww) they just unfortunately got the short end of the stick…no pun intended…
    ______________________________________________________________________
    These women moved with boldness....how do you know there intent? And witnesses say that they weren't down...he kept hitting because they kept trying to get up......and as far as comparing weapons...what is that?...does a rapist get sympathy because he was gentle....does someone breaking into your home get sympathy cause he doesn't pull a gun on you. Do repeat drunk drivers...get sympathy...because they didn't mean to run over the 6 year old?

  • http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2011/aug/8/mayor-talks-tough-to-black-teens-after-flash-mobs/ LaTechGrad02

    :cosign: Genia!! Cosign all of that.

  • Hershey

    @ RoderickXYZ don't get me wrong, if a bush spits on me that's that azz but I wouldn't get a crowbar and crack her damn skull, that's criminally wrong...not mutual combat, getting a weapon to beat an unarmed person constitutes criminal behavior, he could have beat their asses and been home for turkey day, but he took this to another level with the damn spatula

  • Hershey

    @ Genia :cosign:

  • Genia

    Let's not forget Mr. Mcintosh..having served a prison sentence which began at a young age (20 years old)...He has a totally different perception of eminent danger.

    post traumatic stress has not timeline.

  • Genia

    has no timeline......

  • MrsMommy

    This is a violent world we live in today. People are shooting, kniving, and killing kids, old people, and anyone else at the drop of a hat.

    I know I am not going to wait to see what some psychos are going to do to me while they are snarling, barking, spitting, hitting, and coming after me.

    All of you people trying to enter the minds of these two hoodlum women are just being paper liberals. You aren't about to stand there while someone creates a hostile environment and then backs it up with action.

  • Genia

    This would be a totally different story had Mr. Mcintosh, been a Miss Susan Mcintosh, from the Burbs of Manhatten, working her way through college..... Susan would have been a hailed a hero and these chicks (head injuries and all) would be hailed animals. Ok Im done :-)

  • Genia

    MrsMommy says: I know I am not going to wait to see what some psychos are going to do to me while they are snarling, barking, spitting, hitting, and coming after me.

    All of you people trying to enter the minds of these two hoodlum women are just being paper liberals. You aren’t about to stand there while someone creates a hostile environment and then backs it up with action

    ___________________________________________________________________

    Say that shyt!!! :co-sign:

  • Honycoatd—Going off a feeling, I see you!!!

    @ Hershey

    Spitting on someone is using a damn weapon. Saliva carries alot of bacteria and germs. They used more than damn saliva. They also laid their hands on him. And telling someone you are going to cut them up is no joke. These hoodrats could have stored boxcutters in their mouth. And I have seen a few chicks do that and they can talk, cuss and laugh with that chit in their mouth so who knows, the man was defending himself. And another thing the one that is brain damaged looked like a dude to me so chit it would have been no different if it was a guy. Me looking at that one chick alone would have me beating extra hard knowing she (he looking) is better than me and probably could beat me.

  • free

    Honycoatd---Going off a feeling, I see you!!! says:
    @ Free

    then if some of these people were your jurors if you got arrested, you would never be “FREE” again.

    ************************************************

    that's why people feel like they can do whatever. and they do it. i love how you can kill a bytch in new orleans for trying to take your car.

  • KDub

    spitting on another person is considered the ultimate insult.
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    It is ALSO considered assault.... not just an insult.

    Foxy Brown got arrested on misd. assault here in Raleigh for SPITTING on two hotel workers once upon a time.

    No bueno. :nono:

  • Hershey

    @ Honey I know saliva carries germs, and it's just plain nasty to spit on someone but that doesn't give me the right to get a gun and start shooting because someone spit on me. In the moment he did what he felt he had to, I get it, but because of his actions he's in jail and they have tickets. I work on an Army post with a stud that flips a razor in her mouth I get it, but her saying she's going to cut someone and actually attempting to are two totally different things. It was an unequal fight from jump two on one, but he still had no right to go cracking skull caps like that. Toss their asses up yes, but he had an Oz moment and snapped

  • Genia

    KDub!!!! :hugs:

    I could most likely turn the other cheek after a smack....but spitting on me...it becomes primal instinct....that's the worst thing in the world....the insult of spitting is universal!!! If you were in another country and didn't know you were being cursed out...you would know what it was if you got spit on!!!

  • Hershey

    To me when and if the two women are healthier, they too should be arrested because they initiated the attack by spitting and slapping. They are not innocent either, he just went too far in his defense.

  • KDub

    YES @Genia. I totally agree. I remember back when Inga got arrested here and it became an assault charge...that was the FIRST I ever heard of it being taken so seriously...but I see WHY they took it so serious. It is uncalled for.

  • Genia

    Hershy...honey pot sweet pea!!!! I get that you may be a peace keeper type of woman.......I get it....I wish this world could accomondate people like you more. Danger is DANGER...and the God given gift of self preservation is meant to be put to use!!!!!! He beat them until he felt his life had been preserved...I don't fault him at all...

    As I said above...if this was Susy working her way through college...Susy would be called a HERO!!!

  • Genia

    BTW: you defend yourself from bytches carrying razors in their mounts by punching them in their mouth befor they can get to it

  • Hershey

    Genia :rofl: ok, we can agree to disagree mami...you are right though Susy would be making her national news tv show rounds, crying about her saving the other customers from the two wild women...so true

  • http://sandrarose.com Sandra Rose

    Tatted Diva says:

    unfortunately, he’s not going to be released
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    Why not? He has a bond set at $40,000. As soon as someone comes up with the 10%, which is $4,000, he will be released.

  • Honycoatd—Going off a feeling, I see you!!!

    And another thing is they could have acted even crazier because they identified that he had an accent. I have seen a few times people going the extra mile to do the most to insult others especially when they like to pull their an immigrant card and I have more rights than them.

    Like I said the time they recovery, I hope they learn how to act like LADIES because they surely got reminded they weren't MEN!

  • http://sandrarose.com Sandra Rose

    Hershey says:

    I think he over reacted with brute force. It’s one thing to defend yourself, but to savagely beat two women who were unarmed is wrong.
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    As someone else mentioned, those women in New York carry box cutters to slash people's faces. I don't blame him for wildin' out on them. They should have stayed on their side of the counter.

  • Honycoatd—Going off a feeling, I see you!!!

    @ Hershey

    I am not a warlord. Chit, I am quick to call the police. But he did what many would do and is to defend himself from 2 raging idiots.

  • http://sandrarose.com Sandra Rose

    @ MsOnederful: yes, nurses in New York make twice what nurses in the south make. I am a RN but I still had my car repossessed and I was evicted from an apartment. We still live check to check like everyone else. I hate to admit it.

  • Honycoatd—Going off a feeling, I see you!!!

    Another thing no one really stepped him to stop them or him. You can literally see his co-workers laughing while one half stated to "Stop Man."

    From the moment they first slapped him people should have stepped in. He has dignity too why take some stupid boards you don't know disrespecting your rights as a human being?

  • Honycoatd—Going off a feeling, I see you!!!

    @ Sandra Mae

    Sometimes people in good jobs still have more burden than they can carry including taking care of parents, other people children, family members or a big thing is not having good money values like saving, living within your means, and if you can't pay cash for it don't buy it unless its a car and you are using it to be around to and from work.

  • MrsMommy

    Genia says:

    This would be a totally different story had Mr. Mcintosh, been a Miss Susan Mcintosh, from the Burbs of Manhatten, working her way through college….. Susan would have been a hailed a hero and these chicks (head injuries and all) would be hailed animals. Ok Im done
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    You are absolutely right, Genia.

    And people keep throwing up his past in his face. What crime was he committing ringing up folks at McDonalds for a living?

  • MrsMommy

    Honycoatd---Going off a feeling, I see you!!! says:

    Another thing no one really stepped him to stop them or him. You can literally see his co-workers laughing while one half stated to “Stop Man.”
    From the moment they first slapped him people should have stepped in. He has dignity too why take some stupid boards you don’t know disrespecting your rights as a human being?
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    Like Sandra stated, many people carry box-cutters in New York. They were so over-the-top brazen and belligerent, and then proceeded to tag-team him and back him up in a corner.

    I usually have pity for wounded people, but in this case they begged the wrong person to set it off.

  • RoderickXYZ

    Hershey says:

    @ RoderickXYZ don’t get me wrong, if a bush spits on me that’s that azz but I wouldn’t get a crowbar and crack her damn skull, that’s criminally wrong…not mutual combat, getting a weapon to beat an unarmed person constitutes criminal behavior, he could have beat their asses and been home for turkey day, but he took this to another level with the damn spatula
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    You don't know what you would have done if you had been in his shoes because if you look at the situation in it's entirety it made no sense so that is how he reacted.

    He was trying to protect himself from two crazed women in a situation that never should have gotten to the point where they spat on him, laid hands on him and jumped over the counter.

    How was he to know that these two b!tches weren't crackheads who were high or something. Their reaction to his checking the $50 to determine if it were real was beyond an over-reaction.

    And that is NYC so we're talking about an entirely different planet.

  • http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2011/aug/8/mayor-talks-tough-to-black-teens-after-flash-mobs/ LaTechGrad02

    Wow @Sandra, I know this is off topic but that's interesting info about RN's. I'm preparing to go back to school to become an RN so that's something to think about now..

  • Hershey

    @ RoderickXYZ you have your thoughts, and I have mine. I say he overreacted to their ignorance and in the end they got dealt with...no I don't know what I would do but I still say he overreacted and the great star of NY agrees with me that's why he's sitting in jail...

  • KyCakes

    I believe this is a simple case of reaping what you sow. In a perfect world, this wouldn't happen, but this is why you don't run up on someone. You never know what difficulties, what injustices may have happened in that person's life to make them touched in the head.

    Don't start no stuff, won't be no stuff!

  • Christi

    She's got brain damage NOW? I thought she already had it. Why else act so stupidly? Oh and how did that WIRE switch he used on them become a CROWBAR?? Please! That thing he used looked like the thing they used to open the drain for the grease. They got their just desserts.

  • Genia

    Christi says:

    She’s got brain damage NOW? I thought she already had it. Why else act so stupidly? Oh and how did that WIRE switch he used on them become a CROWBAR?? Please! That thing he used looked like the thing they used to open the drain for the grease. They got their just desserts.
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    1st :dead: at "She’s got brain damage NOW? I thought she already had it"

    2nd: I know that's right!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • MsOnederful

    Sandra Rose says:

    @ MsOnederful: yes, nurses in New York make twice what nurses in the south make. I am a RN but I still had my car repossessed and I was evicted from an apartment. We still live check to check like everyone else. I hate to admit it.

    Just came back from a meeting! Dammmm Auntieee!!! Wow! This sounds like they paying RN's what CNA's make up here. Thats crazy! I guess being a very POPULAR blogger does pay off after all. That's big of you to admit. Wow. We are all human. College degree does not necessarily mean big $ after. You are a testament to that. I would have never known. Like Sass and them was saying the other day its all in who you know KNOW! In terms of getting jobs; she got that right! My husbands brother's ex-wife Hired me and thats because I know her!Whelp im guessing his mom really does not have the funds$$ after all.

  • MsOnederful

    Sandra Rose says:

    Hershey says:
    I think he over reacted with brute force. It’s one thing to defend yourself, but to savagely beat two women who were unarmed is wrong.
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    As someone else mentioned, those women in New York carry box cutters to slash people’s faces. I don’t blame him for wildin’ out on them. They should have stayed on their side of the counter.

    I agree. They got what they came for. When he was simply minding his business. The result of which put his azz in jail unfortunately.

  • Hershey

    @ MrsOnderful, I agree, a college drgee doesn't mean big $. It does help though. I work for the Dept of Defense and I know women who make six figures with a high school diploma, sitting at a desk working. Degrees sometimes help but, not always...don't let my kids see what I just wrote! :)

  • MsOnederful

    @Hershey O i know I have my degree. NorthEastern University! WHoot Whoot! But finding a job with da mudaphruker was like fughhedaboutit lol. Alas, thank god for the ex-sister in law lol. I want my son and daugther to go to college! Hopefully when they get out the recession would be OVER *wishful thinking*

  • NOLA

    Everyone saying that he should have stopped when they were down should consider this....suppose he had allowed them to get up and they went for some hot greese or a knife. If they were bold enough to jump the counter, they weren't going to stop just because he had a weapon. They were going to get one as well. My sister always says (in her New Orleans voice)... B**tch run up and get done up!

  • Daisy

    The RNs I know make almost 20K more than I do (although I am underpaid) and some of them have office jobs for ins companies and others still work in hospitals. One of my RN friends in Memphis has 2 jobs both working from home for ins co and she clears over 100K a yr so some RNs do make bank please believe it!

    This case is just sad all the way around :pray:

    I go to wal mart every wk and never had a bad exp with a cashier

  • http://www.twitter.com/iampatrick10 Patrick

    I'm not really feeling all those titles of the http://www. helpfreerayonmcintosh .org/ website.

    What does he need with a Senior advisor, business advisor, co chair person, and a financial advisor for? he's just trying to post bail..What kind of nonsense is going on here?