Update: Police Arrest Three in Shooting That Killed Mother of 12

Sandra Rose October 25, 2011

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Police in New York have arrested a teen suspect in the schoolyard shooting that killed a mother of 12 and injured a fifth grader last week.

According to NBCNY, Andrew Lopez, 18, has been arrested. Sources said detectives tracked him based on a tip

Zurana Horton, 34, died of a gunshot wound to the chest on Friday just after school had let out for the day. A gunman standing on a rooftop across from P.S. 298 opened fire on a crowd of children and mothers standing outside.

Police said Horton tried to shield the schoolchildren from the gunfire when she was shot and killed. “This is the third child I’ve lost from gunshots. I’m really going to miss my daughter,” said Horton’s mother.

11-year-old Cheanne McKnight was shot in the face. She survived her injury and was back at school yesterday. Cheanne’s mother plans to transfer her to another school.

“It ain’t fair a woman had to die to save my child because that woman tried to save my child,” said Cheanne’s mother. “I think something should have been done about this because the day before they was shooting, so these corners should have been covered with police.”

A $15,000 reward had been offered for information leading to the capture of the gunman.

Update: police in New York now have three men in custody for the shooting that killed a 34-year-old Brooklyn mother and injured an 11-year-old girl.

According to NBCNewYork, police said Tuesday that Andrew Lopez, 18, has been arrested on murder and assault charges.

Police later announced another arrest for the same charges: Jonathan Carrasquillo, 22, and a 17-year-old suspect was also arrested for criminal possession of a weapon; in this case, a baseball bat.

Images: Gothamist

Creamychic

I got nothing right now
Ty

I am still stuck at mother of 12
Creamychic

@Ty she had kids, she aint no different than a woman that has slept with differnt men
MzDetermined

Wow thsi is just sad. My heart goes out to the families. Thsi world is getting crazier and crazier each day. Too much violence, it really needs to stop.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oFwik0Lon-g&ob=av2e FeFe

wow, I heard about this a couple days ago..this is really sad..
Mamacita

That’s so sad. 12 kids tho!

Shiiiid she had 12 kids and was willing to put her life on the line to protect others. That’s a soldier! True G ish!

May her soul rest in peace
iheart405

This is so sad
MzDetermined

Wow I mispelled “this” twice
witeboi52

Auntie,

Any type of motivation in this senseless shooting, or was his ignorant azz trying to prove he is a “MAN”?

prayers to all families involved especially those 12 kids that lost their mother…
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2011/aug/8/mayor-talks-tough-to-black-teens-after-flash-mobs/ LaTechGrad02

My thoughts and prayers are with her family. She is truly a hero for sacrificing her life to save those kids.
BlackBeauti

O.M.G what kind of issues can an 18 yr old young beautiful girl have to shoot like that???? GOD what is going on with my people…… I am saddened but for a mother to loose 3 children because of guns is even more heartbreaking…How does she carry on after all these loses….. WOW.

Sandra did you here the story about the 17 yr old boy having sex with all 11 yr old girl in church????? WHAT IS THIS WORLD COMING TOO. THANK GOD I AM BARREN BECAUSE I WILL SHANK A B!TCH FOR MY CHILD
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oFwik0Lon-g&ob=av2e FeFe

I wonder why they keep emphasizing that she was a mother of 12, like shouldn’t that have been listed later on in the short bio of her life or something?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KvyMqZFBzXc&feature=related datsmdubya2u

Wow im glad they got him….and to anyone that wants to talk about this woman and her so called judgement for having so many kids….

She erased anything that could be said against her when she saved the lives of her kid and other folks kids too.

It’s shameful the stuff that’s being said about a heroic person who is no longer here to defend herself. I bet the folks who kids she shielded from bullets have nothing bad to say about her.

Her noble sacrifice is all that matters now. How many people judging her choices would have done the same thing?
Ty

Creamychic says:

@Ty she had kids, she aint no different than a woman that has slept with differnt men
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I am not knocking her at all. To each his own. My issue is that 12 kids have lost their backbone
Creamychic

FeFe says:

I wonder why they keep emphasizing that she was a mother of 12, like shouldn’t that have been listed later on in the short bio of her life or something?

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Right #messy
lady_cn

I truly feel bad for those 12 kids. There are now 12 children without a parent. No matter how she may have lived her life, she died trying to save many.

I also feel bad for Horton’s mother. This is the 3rd child she’s lost from gunshots?
Posche

So sad.
OutsidetheBox

It some nasty ass vitirol going around the web surrounding her 12 kids, and if she was a Duggar that wouldnt be the case at all.

A birther is a birther. And they werent even her 12 kids she was protecting. A hero if you ask me. But whatever. she had 12 kids.
BlackBeauti

Ok it was a a dude. This guy may be upset he could not get any cooter or arse… so he took it out on someone else…. I hope he get what’s coming to him
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KvyMqZFBzXc&feature=related datsmdubya2u

@OTB

OutsidetheBox says:

It some nasty ass vitirol going around the web surrounding her 12 kids, and if she was a Duggar that wouldnt be the case at all.

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Double standards at their worst!
https://sandrarose.com Sandra Rose

I have so many questions. She was only 34 with 12 children… were they from the same father? Were the children six sets of twins? Were they all living under the same roof or did she farm them out to other members of her family to take care of? With 12 kids didn’t she qualify for welfare so she didn’t have to work? Such a shame
!*LaKErCHiC@*!

SAD I THAT HER MOTHER KIDS AND FAMILY CAN PULL TOGETHER… AND SHE WAS THE THIRD OUT OF HER FAM TO DIE OF GUNSHOT THIS IS A REFLECTION OF OUR FUTURE AS A COUNTRY OUR YOUTH IS LOST AND SO IS OUR NATIONS FUTURE… AND PLEASE LETS GET OFF THE FACT SHE HAD 12 KIDS SO FUKN WHAT SHE HAD 12 KIDS THAT ONLY EXPLAINS WHY SHE TRIED TO SHIELD THE KIDS SHE WAS A MOTHER AND MOTHER INSTINC KIKED IT…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oFwik0Lon-g&ob=av2e FeFe

@Sandra

Were they all living under the same roof or did she farm them out to other members of her family to take care of?

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GAGIRL87

If that is her on the right she was a very pretty woman & that was a very heroic thing she did that day. It makes me wanna b/c I would forever be grateful if she saved my child’s life… May she rest in peace
https://sandrarose.com Sandra Rose

@ BlackBeauti: I’m not surprised. These 11-year-old girls today are very fast.
OutsidetheBox

Her kids were 1 to 18 and why wouldnt they live together??

Sandra I hope your just trying to get the commentary jumping!

The shooter was shooting at another shooter who was on the ground near the victims. This was all near a school.

Chit. That could be me! I decided to have kids instead of abortions (had those too, no shame here) and now I get the side eyes as well but it is what it is. Im 30 with 5 for statistical purposes.

And Im sure she worked because who wants them $12 in welfare but they get to rule your roost?!?! No ma’am!
http://youtu.be/wHTo_QgKM5g chibytex aka the people’s champ

Sandra Rose says:

I have so many questions. She was only 34 with 12 children… were they from the same father? Were the children six sets of twins? Were they all living under the same roof or did she farm them out to other members of her family to take care of? With 12 kids didn’t she qualify for welfare so she didn’t have to work? Such a shame
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Sandra :stop:
MsOnederful

Wow this woman died. Saving another child? This women is definitely in heaven right now. We have to pray for her kids. People were complaining on other comment boards saing oooo why does she have 13 kids and she was probably on welfare. She actually had a job you know. It’s a mothers instinct to save a child no matter whose it is. Bless this womans heart.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oFwik0Lon-g&ob=av2e FeFe

I mean maybe she got started early and kept having them every other year…I have a cousin who got started when she was 14, now she’s 30 with a 16 year old daughter who’s also about to have a child…at any rate, who CARES???? She lost her LIFE!
AirForceGirl

-ing for the family right now. My heart goes out to her mother who has already had to bury 3 of her own children. Lord, take the wheel! What is this world coming to. I hope this family is taken care of and they don’t get slit up. 12 kids is a lot for anyone to handle. what a shame!
ohpretty1

Oh boy, I see that a lot will be taken out of context in this post.
Candi Apple

“This is the third child I’ve lost from gunshots.

This Statement is sad
http://youtu.be/wHTo_QgKM5g chibytex aka the people’s champ

Sandra did you here the story about the 17 yr old boy having sex with all 11 yr old girl in church????? WHAT IS THIS WORLD COMING TOO. THANK GOD I AM BARREN BECAUSE I WILL SHANK A B!TCH FOR MY CHILD
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In church though!?!
Honycoatd—Going off a feeling, I see you!!!

This is another unnecessary act. Heartless life that just preys on other life.

I come from a big family of my dad alone having 13 children and counting and my mother has 6.

So what if she had 12 children. Mentalities of people are so nasty at times. Maybe she had a community to help because that is how to solidify strong family structures and foundations. Chit I have 6 and I am PROUD!.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NST6L340KFc&feature=youtube_gdata_player MzDimplez1123

I think it was really noble of her to sacrifice herself to protect other people’s children. I feel bad for her own children and family though.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KvyMqZFBzXc&feature=related datsmdubya2u

@ Sandra

I have so many questions. She was only 34 with 12 children… were they from the same father? Were the children six sets of twins? Were they all living under the same roof or did she farm them out to other members of her family to take care of? With 12 kids didn’t she qualify for welfare so she didn’t have to work? Such a shame

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Why do you have so many questions about this poor woman?

You should have questions about why guns are so readily available?

Why do kids feel the need to join a gang for protection?

Why are the police only there to protect property and the rich but not the citizens?

Why do our young males think the only way to solve problems is with violence?

Those are just a FEW of the real questions you should have.
https://sandrarose.com Sandra Rose

Horton’s mother apparently had a lot of children too. She lost 3 from gunshots.
OutsidetheBox

were they from the same father?

Probably not, but yes, thats possible. See Jim Bob Duggar or the Kennedy elder

Were the children six sets of twins Yes, its possible see Octomom…but probably not considering they range in 1 to 18.
lady_cn

Sandra Rose says:

I have so many questions. She was only 34 with 12 children… were they from the same father? Were the children six sets of twins? Were they all living under the same roof or did she farm them out to other members of her family to take care of? With 12 kids didn’t she qualify for welfare so she didn’t have to work? Such a shame
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At this point, does any of that even matter? If they were living together before, they probably won’t be now which is a shame. May their mother rest in peace and the kids themselves find peace after what has happened.
Candi Apple

@Sandra Rose says:

I have so many questions. She was only 34 with 12 children… were they from the same father? Were the children six sets of twins? Were they all living under the same roof or did she farm them out to other members of her family to take care of? With 12 kids didn’t she qualify for welfare so she didn’t have to work? Such a shame
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I read 7 or her children were from the same man (I saw his picture).
Mamacita

FeFe says:

I wonder why they keep emphasizing that she was a mother of 12, like shouldn’t that have been listed later on in the short bio of her life or something?

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I think the fact that she had 12 kids and she was ONLY 34 is shocking to most. It doesn’t overshadow her sacrifice but it is something to think about.

Most articles list if the person had any children so I don’t think it’s any different from any other.
!*LaKErCHiC@*!

@21 WHY? were they from the same father? Were the children six sets of twins? Were they all living under the same roof or did she farm them out to other members of her family to take care of? With 12 kids didn’t she qualify for welfare so she didn’t have to work?
^^^ SO THIS IS IMPORTANT WHY? HER REPUTATION OR THE WAY SHE LIVED HAS TO DO WHAT WITH HER DEATH?? SOMETIMES WE HAVE TO BE A LIL MORE FUKN HUMAN SANDY AND NOT ASS FUKN MESSY AND COLDHEARTED I DONT SEE U OFFERING TO OPEN AN ACCOUNT FOR THE 12 CHILDREN LIKE U DID FOR THAT MCDONALDS MAN BUT U WANT TO KNOW THE ANSWERS TO THIS… BS…
GAGIRL87

Sandra Rose says:

I have so many questions. She was only 34 with 12 children… were they from the same father? Were the children six sets of twins? Were they all living under the same roof or did she farm them out to other members of her family to take care of? With 12 kids didn’t she qualify for welfare so she didn’t have to work? Such a shame

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Even though your right can you please FOCUS on the fact that she did something heroic that day
lovezoe

Who cares how she got those kids and in what order she had them. It’s some mothers with one child that wouldn’t save their OWN child much less someone else’s. Hopefully this will be the last straw for grandma to get her and those babies out that environment. We as a people have to get rid of the stop snitching movement, report anything we see don’t think belongs in our neighborhood, get in the police azz about not policing certain neighborhoods, contact aldermans/city council/who ever that represents your area, the mayor, etc. It starts with us.
AirForceGirl

*Split
http://youtu.be/0aCwkF3YWmo YSoSerious

Sad story. Not gonna say anything else.
candibfly

i couldn’t even imagine having to take care of 12 children. but you make a way for your family.

such a sad story
lady_cn

Sandra Rose says:

Horton’s mother apparently had a lot of children too. She lost 3 from gunshots.
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Again, does it really matter? 3 of her children whether there were 4 or 14 of them are dead.
Ty

Sandra Rose says:

I have so many questions. She was only 34 with 12 children… were they from the same father? Were the children six sets of twins? Were they all living under the same roof or did she farm them out to other members of her family to take care of? With 12 kids didn’t she qualify for welfare so she didn’t have to work? Such a shame
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I hate to say that is normal but I knew a few people like this while growing up. Usually the mother tends to take in other family members kids and raise them as their own. Especially if the biological parents have an addiction problem and they are trying to keep the kids together and out the system. I am willing to bet this is the case because she sounds like a protector and a nourisher.
http://youtu.be/wHTo_QgKM5g chibytex aka the people’s champ

YSoSerious says:

Sad story. Not gonna say anything else.
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:csign: I’ll be lurking until the subject changes or there is a
ohpretty1

S/N The Duggars (sp?) DO receive public assistance.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KvyMqZFBzXc&feature=related datsmdubya2u

@ Lovezoe

Who cares how she got those kids and in what order she had them. It’s some mothers with one child that wouldn’t save their OWN child much less someone else’s. Hopefully this will be the last straw for grandma to get her and those babies out that environment. We as a people have to get rid of the stop snitching movement, report anything we see don’t think belongs in our neighborhood, get in the police azz about not policing certain neighborhoods, contact aldermans/city council/who ever that represents your area, the mayor, etc. It starts with us.

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all this energy spent judging this woman could be put to better use.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oFwik0Lon-g&ob=av2e FeFe

@Mamacita

Right, but it’s usually listed later on in the article. Not all the time I’m sure, but most of the time they will tell the story of what happened and then go on to say that such and such leaves behind a husband, x amount of children, yada yada yada…Iono, it may not be a big deal at all, I’m just trying to figure out why the number of children she had deserves a headline….
Creamychic

OutsidetheBox says:

Her kids were 1 to 18 and why wouldnt they live together??

Sandra I hope your just trying to get the commentary jumping!

The shooter was shooting at another shooter who was on the ground near the victims. This was all near a school.

Chit. That could be me! I decided to have kids instead of abortions (had those too, no shame here) and now I get the side eyes as well but it is what it is. Im 30 with 5 for statistical purposes.

And Im sure she worked because who wants them $12 in welfare but they get to rule your roost?!?! No ma’am!
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I have to agree 100% ( real talk ) it is what it is.
Honycoatd—Going off a feeling, I see you!!!

I come from a large family and never have my parents been on assistance. Not everyone with more than 2 children fall to the governments knees and take hand outs.
http://twitter.com/#!/Birdshu Bird

I don’t judge her on the number of children she had. I have a friend that I grew up with who always said she wanted 10 kids. I done been lost count, but the last time I knew for sure she had 11 and I think she’s had a couple more since then. She LOVES having kids and she takes good care of them. She has yet to become a grandmother and none of her kids have been teenage parents up to this point. Her two oldest are boys. The oldest is in the military and the second works everyday and is one of the most mature young adults on my FB page. Some people just love kids. As long as they don’t unleash menaces to society I’m happy for them.
!*LaKErCHiC@*!

@43 NOPE SHE CANT THAT WONT GET HER THE REACTION SHE IS LOOKING FOR..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OuACz0pKCmE&ob=av2e ELove

@dats
SHE gets NOTHING but RESPECT From ME becuz I Ain’t taking a Bullet for NOBODY other than My Daughter (REAL)
http://www.facebook.com/home.php?#/profile.php?ref=profile&id=1335451522 therapist1911

datsmdubya2u says:

Wow im glad they got him….and to anyone that wants to talk about this woman and her so called judgement for having so many kids….

She erased anything that could be said against her when she saved the lives of her kid and other folks kids too.

It’s shameful the stuff that’s being said about a heroic person who is no longer here to defend herself. I bet the folks who kids she shielded from bullets have nothing bad to say about her.

Her noble sacrifice is all that matters now. How many people judging her choices would have done the same thing?

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Nothing more I need to say other than COSIGN

R.I.P. “Angel” may your work on this Earth be reward in Heaven
lovezoe

That Duggar chick is in her early 40s with 19-20 kids, it doesn’t matter if she is married or not. Where was this ladies show? I am more concerned about my tax dollars going to fund a war, Congress, multiple programs that do the same thing than I am about someone being on welfare.
https://sandrarose.com Sandra Rose

@ MzDimplez: Why do we have to create heroes out of every tragedy? She did her job which was to protect those children. What teacher wouldn’t have done what she did? I doubt she “sacrificed” herself thinking she was going to get killed.
Candi Apple

The shooter directly aimed at the school yard He/She is in for a rude awakening.

Back door negotiations won’t help him/her. Bend over and get it done with.
NYC has stiff laws associated with what you do around or on school grounds.

I feel sorry for the children 2 were handicapped and lives with their biological father.

I will say the woman was a fast one but how many children she had should not matter. She made her choices and stuck by them. I pray for her family
http://youtu.be/wHTo_QgKM5g chibytex aka the people’s champ

ELove says:

@dats
SHE gets NOTHING but RESPECT From ME becuz I Ain’t taking a Bullet for NOBODY other than My Daughter (REAL)
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caligirl

Sandra Rose says:
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I have so many questions. She was only 34 with 12 children… were they from the same father? Were the children six sets of twins? Were they all living under the same roof or did she farm them out to other members of her family to take care of? With 12 kids didn’t she qualify for welfare so she didn’t have to work? Such a shame
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I’m kind of chuckling inside…Cause ya’ll are something else. Would it have mattered if she was 55 with 12 children? Maybe she adopted some of them. She had a job, she was nice looking, she shielded other children and lost her life beause of it.
Creamychic

chibytex aka the people’s champ says:

Sandra did you here the story about the 17 yr old boy having sex with all 11 yr old girl in church????? WHAT IS THIS WORLD COMING TOO. THANK GOD I AM BARREN BECAUSE I WILL SHANK A B!TCH FOR MY CHILD
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In church though!?!

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Yea that pretty standard in a False Church, I’m not surprised
Honycoatd—Going off a feeling, I see you!!!

Some people discover their purpose in life early and it seems this mother was the loving and nourishing type to even attempt to shield someone else’s child knowing in her mind she got 12 she would like to go home to.
http://youtu.be/0aCwkF3YWmo YSoSerious

@FEFE

The focus of this story doesn’t surprise me. It’s all about sensationalism and getting web hits/selling papers.
OutsidetheBox

I know wayyyyy more about the Duggars and Birthers in general then I care to. I used them because Sandy can get a little hypocritical!

But yeah, not paying your fair share is no different than receiving government assistance.
caligirl

I thought about being a teacher at one time…but I short on patience. There is no rule about being a teacher and blocking bullets. Is there?
Christi

This is sad. I don’t see what her number of kids nor whether they were with one man has to do with anything. This is what’s wrong with people, focus is all on the wrong thing. My only concern if for the loss her children have experienced.
http://www.facebook.com/home.php?#/profile.php?ref=profile&id=1335451522 therapist1911

Sandra Rose says:

I have so many questions. She was only 34 with 12 children… were they from the same father? Were the children six sets of twins? Were they all living under the same roof or did she farm them out to other members of her family to take care of? With 12 kids didn’t she qualify for welfare so she didn’t have to work? Such a shame

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Auntie, with all due respect, I don’t see how any of that is important. those are the last things that are on my mind regarding this young woman who sacraficed her life.
ohpretty1

I can’t explain it, but I just have a feeling that her children will be ok in life because of the way their mother was taken from them.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oFwik0Lon-g&ob=av2e FeFe

Ok, I’m in tha for this post…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KvyMqZFBzXc&feature=related datsmdubya2u

@ Sandra

MzDimplez: Why do we have to create heroes out of every tragedy?

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Are you serious?

I know people who would’ve hid behind those kids rather than jumping in front of them….
http://youtu.be/0aCwkF3YWmo YSoSerious

(reads SANDRA’s comment #61)

Please tell us you don’t mean that. Please. :stop:
candibfly

i hope the children are taken care of. it would be hard to place them all in the same home hopefully family can take them in (if she wasn’t married) and they can at least be close to one another.
Mamacita

But wait…How did the shooter get on the roof?????? Aren’t those usually closed off or locked up???
dlynn87

@Sandra the mother had 9 kids that lived with her and she had 3 kids that are disabled and they live with their father. She had 8 kids by the same man and including the 3 disabled kids. I don’t know about the 4 other kids. This is a true tradgedy.
OutsidetheBox

I have a friend that I grew up with who always said she wanted 10 kids.

I wanted 12 for as long as I remember. My paternal gma had a very LARGE family. I’m vain tho. Wanted my body and time back
laterthannever

Wow 12 kids and she had less eye baggage that Gloria Govan.

But seriously, this is terrible and that is a lot of motherless children who sound like they had a loving mother who died a hero. She didn’t have to shield those other children, could have tried to haul ass with her baby. I hope that the city does right by her babies (unlikely) and that they are reminded often that their mother was a hero.
https://twitter.com/Mizz_Dallas mizzdallas

therapist1911 says:

datsmdubya2u says:

Wow im glad they got him….and to anyone that wants to talk about this woman and her so called judgement for having so many kids….

She erased anything that could be said against her when she saved the lives of her kid and other folks kids too.

It’s shameful the stuff that’s being said about a heroic person who is no longer here to defend herself. I bet the folks who kids she shielded from bullets have nothing bad to say about her.

Her noble sacrifice is all that matters now. How many people judging her choices would have done the same thing?

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Nothing more I need to say other than COSIGN

R.I.P. “Angel” may your work on this Earth be reward in Heaven

Im so glad I dont have kids Im already paranoid…
BlackBeauti

It does not have if she had 12 kids by 20 different men… The sad thing is now these children will be without a mother and probably grow up in the system…. It was her coochie to give to whomever she pleased. Sad no matter if she had 0 children. I will not sit here and judge anyone. There are women out there who have had as many abortions. Does not make them any better than this mother of 12. RIP. Baby Momma
http://youtu.be/wHTo_QgKM5g chibytex aka the people’s champ

YSoSerious says:

@FEFE

The focus of this story doesn’t surprise me. It’s all about sensationalism and getting web hits/selling papers.
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http://youtu.be/0aCwkF3YWmo YSoSerious

I should have gone with my first instincts an stayed out of this post cause really…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NST6L340KFc&feature=youtube_gdata_player MzDimplez1123

@ Sandra….I’ve never heard ANY teacher state that their job description includes taking a bullet for a student, another teacher, principal, janitor or anyone else. In my eyes, she’s a hero because she could’ve said, “damn this, I have 12 kids of my own to worry about!” then ran back in the building and left those kids to be slaughtered like sheep. You may not respect her sacrifice but, as a mother and the compassionate human being I try to be, I give her much respect.
lovezoe

How is it her JOB to protect those children? Military members get Purple Hearts/Valor awards all the time for going above a and beyond their JOB. She is a hero in my eyes.
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2011/aug/8/mayor-talks-tough-to-black-teens-after-flash-mobs/ LaTechGrad02

Sandra Rose says:

@ MzDimplez: Why do we have to create heroes out of every tragedy? She did her job which was to protect those children. What teacher wouldn’t have done what she did? I doubt she “sacrificed” herself thinking she was going to get killed.
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Teachers don’t take an oath to take a bullet for their students. They are not secret service agents. Her job was to feed their minds, saving their lives while sacrificing herself was above and beyond the call of duty. If she hadn’t had 12 kids, I don’t think anyone would try to take away from what this woman did that day. That’s wrong. I don’t get this villainizing the victim mentality.

I mean we call people who save folks from choking on a fish bone by calling the paramedics hero but we can’t call this woman who took a bullet and saved lives a hero??? Come on now.
iCandy86

smh I really dont care how many children she has, nor do I think it’s relevant to discuss. Say she had 12 kids, and move on. It’s a sad day when we are focused on the amount of children that lady had and what she was doing with them, as opposed to the fact that 12 kids lost their mother while she was trying to save someone else’s babies. Who cares if the lady was fast…SOMEONE IS DEAD B/C AN IDIOT WANTED TO SHOOT NEAR A SCHOOL! what’s really more important here?!

iCant with the ignorance today.
Christi

I care more that the reward was ONLY $15K.
OutsidetheBox

I thought about being a teacher at one time…but I short on patience

I am def. a teacher at heart. but knowing what i know about my kids and my families kids and the pay?!?!? Oy vey.

That English degree comes in handy at technical writing time tho! LOL
Honycoatd—Going off a feeling, I see you!!!

See the hypocrites them
!*LaKErCHiC@*!

THE VICTIM/HERO WAS PREGNANT SHE HAD 13 KIDS AND SHIELD HERS AND OTHER KIDS… SANDRA U ONE COLDHEARTED PERSON… JUST WOW DO U HAVE A NURTURING SIDE OR JUST MESSY SIDE?? #61 REALLY??
Creamychic

:stop: FeFe I’m coming behing you
Ms.Fashion

All these apply to her!!! If I had been a mother of one of the kids she protected, I would have definitely made it my business to make sure her kids are going forward. No Questions asked!!!! I have a son, A person loses their life to save mine, will definitely gain me!!! REAL TALK!!!
OutsidetheBox

Wow 12 kids and she had less eye baggage that Gloria Govan.

Now you know whattttttttt You bad.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NST6L340KFc&feature=youtube_gdata_player MzDimplez1123

Welp! i guess it’s time for me to cut out early, as usual lately. Anybody looking for me knows how to find me.
OutsidetheBox

How did the shooter get on the roof??????

Im a country girl so there aint eben no “tall” buildings in my world

Im thinking this was a planned attack on the other bad guy and she crossed their path
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KvyMqZFBzXc&feature=related datsmdubya2u

chibytex aka the people’s champ says:

YSoSerious says:

@FEFE

The focus of this story doesn’t surprise me. It’s all about sensationalism and getting web hits/selling papers.
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This blog gets enough hits not to have to resort to this….hell put up another Bey bump update post. but don’t denigrate this woman for hits.
!*LaKErCHiC@*!

@DIMPZ IM WITH U MAMA THIS SHTY IS SICK…
Honycoatd—Going off a feeling, I see you!!!

Anyways Enjoy people and blessed love be upon you all.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OuACz0pKCmE&ob=av2e ELove

If I was Fortunate Enough to have met the RIGHT WOMAN during my College Years… I would’ve had AT LEAST 6 to 7 Kids (No Doubt…) If NOT More !!! Big/Huge Families can be Soooo Beneficial IMO
lovezoe

They say it was gang-related, this punk will sing like a canary to get a deal. He should be charged with 13 counts of murder, he has taken 13 lives. I do hope he is charged with killing the baby inside of her though.
http://youtu.be/wHTo_QgKM5g chibytex aka the people’s champ

I will not sit here and judge anyone. There are women out there who have had as many abortions.
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OutsidetheBox

She was preggo?
BlackBeauti

I cannot take these messy judgmental people commenting on that lady 12 children coochie. So what I bet some of you all shallow more jizz than her but because your tubes are tied or your coochie not good enough to produce children you are not in the same category as her…

Sandra Aunty I love you dearly but you are so wrong for your comment. Remember Karma is a a fat b!tch in heels
candibfly

i know for sure i could not be a teacher

however, i know a lot of teachers and i’m failry certain their contracts didn’t include ‘dive in front of your students should gunfire occur’

teachers are hired to nuture a child’s intellect. one might have an instinct to protect in an instance such as the one above, or others see it as the right thing to do, but its not their job IMO
Ms. Everything

This story is so fvcked up in so many ways not least of which is the fact that so many are focusing on how many children the woman who died has, which is really a non factor in the fact that she died saving other children’s lives because some idiot decided to shoot at a school. This makes me so

What is wrong with the youth today that they have no idea of right from wrong and no respect for the sanctity of life???
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KvyMqZFBzXc&feature=related datsmdubya2u

can’t anymore see ya’ll on another post.
http://youtu.be/0aCwkF3YWmo YSoSerious

(grabs LAKER by her hand cause I don’t want her to get banned today)

:2dance: <—Far away from this here topic.
lovezoe

I will not sit here and judge anyone. There are women out there who have had as many abortions.
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THIS ALL DAY! Some women consider abortions to be a form of BC. Some women don’t know who their chid’s father is. Some women have had 10x as many men run through their collapsed puzz. At the end of the day, it’s their box not mine.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KvyMqZFBzXc&feature=related datsmdubya2u

@ Black beauti

I cannot take these messy judgmental people commenting on that lady 12 children coochie. So what I bet some of you all shallow more jizz than her but because your tubes are tied or your coochie not good enough to produce children you are not in the same category as her…

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I said i was leaving…but @ that comment
!*LaKErCHiC@*!

@OTB SHE WAS PREG RESEARCH HER NAME SHE HAD 13 KIDS AND THE PIC AUNTIE HAS LOOKS A LIL OFF TOO
Candi Apple

@OTB

NOOOOOO she was not pregnant

The corner confirmed she was not pregnant.
Mamacita

“not good enough to produce children ”

Don’t do that…
OutsidetheBox

I think maybe they were raised by the kind of ppl who would say, “I know she dead…but she had 12 kids!!!” or a parent thats too indulgent or too lax or *poof* a disappearing act of a dad/mom.

Just maybe.

Sandra is a nurse. You dont become a nurse without some type of compassion, no? Im convinced you like to make sure your commentors really arent “those” kind of ppl.
http://youtu.be/wHTo_QgKM5g chibytex aka the people’s champ

So what I bet some of you all shallow more jizz than her but because your tubes are tied or your coochie not good enough to produce children you are not in the same category as her…
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and at the same time!!!
deedeegirl

my goodness, why judge the woman, even in death? she died saving others, God bless her. What was wrong with the man to do something like this? No punishment is enough.
ohpretty1

What is wrong with the youth today that they have no idea of right from wrong and no respect for the sanctity of life???

Blame the people that raised them. I’m sorry but this generation of parents spend way more time making excuses for these kids than raising them. Of course doesn’t apply to all parents but look at the youth today.
Ms. Everything

I started to read all the comments but I had to stop before I got pissed off… I OTB’s first comment all fvcking day. Alot of people are so quick to talk about how many kids someone has but won’t mention the abortions they have every year Every mother of multiple children isn’t a whore, isn’t on welfare and isn’t trifling and I’ll leave it at that
OutsidetheBox

Didnt Ricky Smiley say the reason he is Pro-Choice is because of “dumb ass ppl”????

Y’all stop abandoning the post! sheesh!
!*LaKErCHiC@*!

@CANDI OH OK I JUST READ THAT ON THE LOCAL NEWS..
@YSO ITS JUST SAD THAT A WOMAN AT THAT CAN BE SO HEARTLESS COLD AND HUNGRY FOR HITS POST ATTENTION THAT SHE WOULD EVEN ASK STUPID IGNANT SHYT LIKE “WERE THEY ALL FROM THE SAME FATHER?” WHY? U FINNA PAY CHILDSUPPORT OR ADOPT ALL OF THEM?? U GON PUT THEM THRU COLLEGE..OH OH NO THEN STFU LET ME WALK THE FUK AWAY AND IF SHE DO BAN ME FUK IT!!
Candi Apple

I think some people read comments and see what they want…
OutsidetheBox

@ohP. me and you agree! Seeing all the different personalities in my house, some of them would be just fine if i was running the streets, hotting and hollering (I still do this to a degree <—but not really!) but some of them would be…. just not so good without good, CONSTANT, thoughtful, meaningful guidance. For real.
Ms. Everything

Oh wait before I go… @OhPretty I agree fully. I’ve met some of the most trifling parents and teachers while parenting my 4 and I agree so many people don’t give a crap about their children’s lives and cosign every dumbass thing they do instead of putting their foot up their asses and telling them they’re wrong. And alot of teachers unfortunately see misbehavior and instead of correcting it they look the other way because they either don’t wanna get involved or don’t want to deal with the parents if they do
MsOnederful

Auntie #61 This is your blog. That we know, but that comment was kind of cold
cheeks8683

I’m sure most of us have had sex more than 12 times during our time here on Earth…she just failed to use proper protection… and I guess its obvious that she is extremely fertile… perhaps she was allergic to birth control…The bottom line is she made the untimate sacrifice for a complete stranger and she will be rewarded for it in her heavenly home….
AndThenIHitMyDougie

I am Pro-Choice because of dumb azz ppl as well. Andrew Lopez SHOULD have been an ABORTION.

@Sandra
You really ought to be ashamed of yourself. I get it when you’re joking around about Bey’s womb for sh*ts and giggles, but this now deceased woman who didnt think twice about protecting OTHER folks kids…. don’t hit that new low, Sandra.

Go back to working on those Lala Diaries and leave this alone, please.
AndThenIHitMyDougie

@OTB
Regarding your 1st comment – no judgment here. You do what you gotta do. As long as you take care of the ones you DID have, there should NEVER be any shame in your game, boo.
http://youtu.be/wHTo_QgKM5g chibytex aka the people’s champ

I have a cousin that has 10 fukking kids. All of them by the same man. Her HUSBAND works for the post office. She stays at home and raises their kids. Her oldest child is a junior in college making straight A’s. In which she received a band scholarship. And from my knowledge they have never been on welfare.

Does my family give her a major side eye everytime she pops up with another kid But at the end of the day she tells us to mind our own business cause aint nobody helping her other than her man and her husband’ family sometimes.

Folks need to mind their own fukking business and :stop: being so BITTER, and stay out of other women’s uterus and pussies…
iscream

She was pregnant when she died

So happy for the most part these comments are positive. When this story first broke ppl were calling her a welfare queen instead of a HERO. Why is so much talk about how many kids she had. I’m sure most of the ppl talking about their tax money is living pay check to pay check on check from welfare themselves.

There are women who try their whole life without success to have ONE kid but because a woman choose to keep the lives she laid down and made she has to be subjected to ignorant people’s comment. Most who probably doesn’t know what being a mother is. So happy they caught this fvcking coward who shot into a crowd of school children from a roof.
MsOnederful

O boy the MOMS about to roll in here Deep! Up in here. Sandra I don’t know if your a MOTHER. If you ever gave BIRTH or know what it feels like. The instinct we possess is Maternal in some cases with children who aren’t ours. This woman did what she thought was right not knowing in return if she would lose her life behind it. For that that child’s mom will be forever grateful. To judge her for having 12 kids and THINKING she was probably on welfare to justify them is just…sad…this is my OPINION as well. Coming from a mother of 2 that’s all. I’m sure all the moms in the post commenting can agree that she was/is truly a HERO!
laterthannever

I understand what you’re trying to say BlackBeauti, but if my memory serves me correctly, the “coochie,” while an integral part of the reproductive process, does not fertilize eggs or hold said fertilized eggs. Yes, it is a vessel for the delivery of the egg fertilizer (baby juice) and the final product of said fertilized egg (baby), its merit (good enough/not good enough) does not a baby make.
AndThenIHitMyDougie

No wif the above chick had gotten 12 abortions, ya’ll would be up here crucifying her as well, but at LEAST it wouldnt be the fukking headline on every story about her.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OuACz0pKCmE&ob=av2e ELove

@ohpretty1 (Comment #118)
Totally AGREE Baby
lady_cn

chibytex aka the people’s champ says:

I have a cousin that has 10 fukking kids. All of them by the same man. Her HUSBAND works for the post office. She stays at home and raises their kids. Her oldest child is a junior in college making straight A’s. In which she received a band scholarship. And from my knowledge they have never been on welfare.

Does my family give her a major side eye everytime she pops up with another kid But at the end of the day she tells us to mind our own business cause aint nobody helping her other than her man and her husband’ family sometimes.

Folks need to mind their own fukking business and being so BITTER, and stay out of other women’s uterus and pussies…

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Ms. Everything

And Sandra.. #61 was just wrong. A lot of teachers would have protected themselves first, a lot of parents would have covered themselves and their own kids. This woman saved multiple children who were not her own and died in the process so I don’t know what you’re trying to lead into but please don’t do this today.

True story: the other day my kids were walking to their bus stop from the car. I sat there to watch them cross and get on the bus. One of my daughters slipped and fell in the middle of the crosswalk. The parents around walked right past her, there was a cop car next to the crosswalk they didn’t even get out to help, cars in the street were still moving and there were teachers on the sidewalk watching. I got out my car and ran across, in front of traffic and picked my baby up and not one person stopped to help her. And this was a little girl. Let me see any child hurt, scared, distressed or in danger and I’m dropping everything to go help because I’m a mother and a human being. Too many folks now don’t have that same mentality. Now I was there watching but what if I wasn’t?? But you can best believe if she’d been hit everyone would’ve run crying about how the city needs to monitor the crosswalks, blah blah blah. People are so quick to talk but when it comes time for action they’ll stay their asses out of the line of fire… except this woman didn’t and now she gets dragged through the mud when she should be lauded a hero
Mamacita

I think most people are talking about her 12 children because that’s a LOT of children to have regardless of if they’re by the same man or 12 different men. Especially at such a young age. I don’t know anyone with more than 5 so 12 is unheard of!

I’m not judging her But that does open up other questions such as some stated above.
GeminEyez

I dont know if she made it into heaven but I do appreciate her and Thank her for saving those children. I hope the parents are just as grateful and maybe show their thanks by keeping track of her childrent and helping them in some way…….
cheeks8683

Are any of her kids in foster care? If not then she deserves a not only for the life she saved but the ones she was apart of while she was here on earth….
caligirl

@lovezoe says:
How is it her JOB to protect those children? Military members get Purple Hearts/Valor awards all the time for going above a and beyond their JOB. She is a hero in my eyes.
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I agree that she is a hero. However unlike the military members they sign up to potientially take a bullet. Big difference. Her family and children and in my prayers.
OutsidetheBox

@sass mmmhmmm! You know how that go! It is what it is…now what a bi tch gonna do? <—thats always my question!

If anything can go right, it will in my world!

And I wish I knew this philosophy even earlier! (I was always very , very mature…do we call that fast round here? My folks referred to it as "womanish" but not really with a sexual connotation :lol)…I let the worlds views in once I had a couple of kids and really that pressure will bust a pipe and Im a strong bi tch no doubt!

If I had it to do over again. I would need one of them MB van cruck thingys shoot! :drive:
http://www.facebook.com/home.php?#/profile.php?ref=profile&id=1335451522 therapist1911

Sandra Rose says:

@ MzDimplez: Why do we have to create heroes out of every tragedy? She did her job which was to protect those children. What teacher wouldn’t have done what she did? I doubt she “sacrificed” herself thinking she was going to get killed.

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Da hell as a former teacher if I heard a gun shot my first thought would have been “Self Preservation*

I’ve been in manny situations as a teacher in a Urban District. Fight break out after dismissal outside….i closed the door and called police. Nothing I can do…..my momma needs me here
http://chachafiles.blogspot.com/ CHA Deuce

-I didnt read she was pregnant

– What is shallowing jizz

– I couldnt imagine at my current age of 33 being a mother to 12 kids, I mean 2 is hard but the Lord Makes a way.
JMO

Well, I see my view on a certain someone posting in here has changed. Its one thing to crack jokes but its another thing to be just disrespectful. It seriously makes me question your upbringing …
https://twitter.com/Mizz_Dallas mizzdallas

iscream says:

She was pregnant when she died

So happy for the most part these comments are positive. When this story first broke ppl were calling her a welfare queen instead of a HERO. Why is so much talk about how many kids she had. I’m sure most of the ppl talking about their tax money is living pay check to pay check on check from welfare themselves.

There are women who try their whole life without success to have ONE kid but because a woman choose to keep the lives she laid down and made she has to be subjected to ignorant people’s comment. Most who probably doesn’t know what being a mother is. So happy they caught this fvcking coward who shot into a crowd of school children from a roof.

Amen!!!
https://sandrarose.com Sandra Rose

Candi Apple says:

I think some people read comments and see what they want…

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True
GeminEyez

Candi Apple says:

I think some people read comments and see what they want…

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I couldnt have said this any better…..
AndThenIHitMyDougie

@OTB
LOL! Everybody always got something to say about what you doing with yours, but they never got a penny to contribute to the cause. <—- Learned that the hard way.

Fukk 'em, OTB. Just… fukk 'em.

(And I like "womanish" to substitute for "fast." )
OutsidetheBox

What questions does it open? @Mamacita.

I need help with this one.. ?

Are you from the North? 12 kids is NOT a lot historically, but sure, maybe in modern, “green”, every-man-for-themselves-time, sure. But please elaborate.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oFwik0Lon-g&ob=av2e FeFe

@Sandra

How do you feel about setting up a Paypal account for her surviving children?
GeminEyez

CHA Deuce says:

-I didnt read she was pregnant

– What is shallowing jizz

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I think the person meant SWALLOWING JIZZ lol
JMO

Ms. Everything says:

And Sandra.. #61 was just wrong. A lot of teachers would have protected themselves first, a lot of parents would have covered themselves and their own kids. This woman saved multiple children who were not her own and died in the process so I don’t know what you’re trying to lead into but please don’t do this today.

True story: the other day my kids were walking to their bus stop from the car. I sat there to watch them cross and get on the bus. One of my daughters slipped and fell in the middle of the crosswalk. The parents around walked right past her, there was a cop car next to the crosswalk they didn’t even get out to help, cars in the street were still moving and there were teachers on the sidewalk watching. I got out my car and ran across, in front of traffic and picked my baby up and not one person stopped to help her. And this was a little girl. Let me see any child hurt, scared, distressed or in danger and I’m dropping everything to go help because I’m a mother and a human being. Too many folks now don’t have that same mentality. Now I was there watching but what if I wasn’t?? But you can best believe if she’d been hit everyone would’ve run crying about how the city needs to monitor the crosswalks, blah blah blah. People are so quick to talk but when it comes time for action they’ll stay their asses out of the line of fire… except this woman didn’t and now she gets dragged through the mud when she should be lauded a hero
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… <– drinking ur mai tai in ur gravi
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KvyMqZFBzXc&feature=related datsmdubya2u

(outta lurking…hypocrite that i am)

Candi Apple says:

I think some people read comments and see what they want…

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I was responding to the implication. Plenty of questions about the mother but no questions about the criminals that did this to her. jus sayin’
http://youtu.be/0aCwkF3YWmo YSoSerious

@MAMA

That is pretty much how I feel but I think Sandra took it too far. Never once did I wonder if she was on welfare or how many baby daddies she had.

I’m 1 of 9 myself but I got stuck on the 12 kids because I’ve never given birth to 1 and am simply amazed at how anyone could do that and not have to be committed to an asylum.
OutsidetheBox

Dont it just sound better?

#fancy
Candi Apple

I think she was a girl who feel in love with the her boyfriend. They had 7 kids together (2 handicap who lived with their father so he was active in their lives). She and her children’s father split. She had other boyfriends and produced more children. Nothing wrong with her actions because they were hers and she stoop by her actions.

She did what was expected of her as a mother and that is what matters the most in this story. I don’t care if she had 20 children by 20 different men. People in her neighborhood had nothing but great things to say about her which is a reflection of her as a person and a parent.

I pray the children will receive the same amount of care she gave them.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oFwik0Lon-g&ob=av2e FeFe

@dats

I was responding to the implication. Plenty of questions about the mother but no questions about the criminals that did this to her. jus sayin’

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I got what you meant too…I guess it can be applied across the board…
http://chachafiles.blogspot.com/ CHA Deuce

Who JMO?

I happen to be one of six kids… my granny raised us al …My mama was mad trifling…shes a good person now but people always said in the same breathe as my mamas name “She got all them damn kids” No judgement here… God takes care of fools and babies
http://youtu.be/wHTo_QgKM5g chibytex aka the people’s champ

Are you from the North? 12 kids is NOT a lot historically, but sure, maybe in modern, “green”, every-man-for-themselves-time, sure. But please elaborate.
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My mother’s mother had 12 and my daddy’s mother had 13….both ended up with a 11 apiece because a couple of the babies died at childbirth. Its really not that uncommon down south to have a lot of kids. Cause those women lived by the bible and in the bible it says BE FRUITFUL and MULTIPLY!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NST6L340KFc&feature=youtube_gdata_player MzDimplez1123

@ Dougie….Have you checked your jump off a bridge email addy lately?
http://youtu.be/wHTo_QgKM5g chibytex aka the people’s champ

o 1 and am simply amazed at how anyone could do that and not have to be committed to an asylum.
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That’s the real fukking question. HOW in the hell did she deal with all 12 of them muthafukkers. I would have been committed suicide…
http://chachafiles.blogspot.com/ CHA Deuce

Young lady reminds me of a younger Taral Hicks (Belly 1998) Anyhow ya’ll keep forgetting Sandra aint birth’d nan baby so stop taking everything she says to heart IONO
OutsidetheBox

And its so weird to me cause thats right in the Bible but the ppl in the Church be the man ones side eyeing you.

They dont wanna feed the hungry, multiply, pay their share, protect the poor, downtrodden these are all “Jesus-like” things and really they look down their noses!
candibfly

i can’t speak for the folks making derogatory comments but when i see 12 kids my first instict is got damn that’s a lot of kids. simply bc i couldn’t imagine having that many or taking care of that many. i think in this day and age that’s a large number, whereas in our parents day it was nothing
http://youtu.be/0aCwkF3YWmo YSoSerious

@CHA

My mama was triflin too…And I bet money she wouldn’t have jumped in front of a bullet to save nobody. Probably not even one of us.
OutsidetheBox

I think she was a girl who fell in love with the her boyfriend.

I think the same chit happened to me. But with all these kids I cant seem to have a chance to think about it…. <—sarcasm!

I blame love!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oFwik0Lon-g&ob=av2e FeFe

I guess folks get more love and support if they go into a fit of rage and crush someone’s skull during an altercation than if they jump in the line of fire to save another child’s life….I also guess that a person’s past in one situation matters, and in another it doesn’t…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KvyMqZFBzXc&feature=related datsmdubya2u

The only mother we need to be asking questions about is the mother who raised a sniper from whom this woman had to protect kids from.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hBrmhl70e38 Unpredictable

That’s a damn shame. It’s crazy as hell and damn sad that these kids have no regards for human life. is going on in your life that you decide to open fire on children and their parents???? May this brave woman rest in peace. Wasn’t she also 8 months pregnant????
http://youtu.be/wHTo_QgKM5g chibytex aka the people’s champ

Sandra can we please get a BBQ Wives post before I have to log off and go cook!

Please and thank you! Their pussies and uterus are open for discussion!
http://chachafiles.blogspot.com/ CHA Deuce

chibytex aka the people’s champ says:
How did she deal with all 12 of them muthafukkers
Chibes do better chile
http://youtu.be/0aCwkF3YWmo YSoSerious

@CANDI

Exactly.
AndThenIHitMyDougie

@Dimpz
Why no? I have not. But I will do it now.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hBrmhl70e38 Unpredictable

I ain’t knocking this woman for how many kids she had. As long as she was taking care of her babies, it doesn’t matter to me. Hell, I wanted a lot of kids at one point, chit, I still do. I wanted at least 5 or 6.
Mamacita

OutsidetheBox says:

What questions does it open? @Mamacita.

I need help with this one.. ?

Are you from the North? 12 kids is NOT a lot historically, but sure, maybe in modern, “green”, every-man-for-themselves-time, sure. But please elaborate.

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I’m from all over. I was born in NO. Then livied in Baltimore, MD. Now I’m in Mississippi. I agree that historically a lot of kids was pretty typical BUT in these times they aren’t. I personally don’t know anyone with 12 kids so that’s amazing to me. Hell, I shiver at the thought of pushing out ONE with the stories you guys put on here so I can’t imagine what she went through.

Questions like who’s the father since someone will have to tak care of the kids? Did she have a job/life insurance? Will the kids have to be split up? etc.

Again, I’m not taking anything from her heroic act at all. I respect her for what she did.
Honycoatd—Going off a feeling, I see you!!!

I am raising 8 children in my household and I don’t think I am crazy
MsOnederful

Look at this from a comment board:

With 13 kids and no husband I think the prime suspect would be a taxpayer.<========People are quick to judge. In reality this woman was a health care worker. She happened to be off when she was picking up her daughter from school. Smh.

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2052116/Pregnant-mother-Zurana-Horton-shot-outside-Brooklyn-public-school.html#ixzz1bp8GLNgN
http://youtu.be/wHTo_QgKM5g chibytex aka the people’s champ

And I bet money she wouldn’t have jumped in front of a bullet to save nobody. Probably not even one of us.
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My mama probably would have push ME in FRONT of the bullet to save her own damn life!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oFwik0Lon-g&ob=av2e FeFe

@chiby

Ion care about them trifling bbq wives…last night’s episode was STOOOPID….and I probably need to stop following Jackie Christie on Twitter…
http://chachafiles.blogspot.com/ CHA Deuce

YSoSerious says:

@CHA

My mama was triflin too…And I bet money she wouldn’t have jumped in front of a bullet to save nobody. Probably not even one of us

…Is yo mama name………..
MsOnederful

Look at this from a comment board:
With 13 kids and no husband I think the prime suspect would be a taxpayer.<========People are quick to judge. In reality this woman was a health care worker. She happened to be off when she was picking up her daughter from school. Smh.
candibfly

but why isn’t this day over yet?

its sad tho that kids can’t even play outside at school without fear of a bullet flying by their head
caligirl

OutsidetheBox says:

What questions does it open? @Mamacita.

I need help with this one.. ?

Are you from the North? 12 kids is NOT a lot historically, but sure, maybe in modern, “green”, every-man-for-themselves-time, sure. But please elaborate.
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for most folks 12 kids is alot, but the issue is/was that a woman, daughter, mothers, friend, cousin, aunt was killed in a senseless matter.

Most thought along the lines, oh my goodness who going to take care of those children, how will they cope.

Would be better if she was a mother of 1.
http://youtu.be/0aCwkF3YWmo YSoSerious

@CHIBY

I don’t know about all that…But I bet my grandmother would have thrown my mother in front of a bullet to save her grandbabies.
Candi Apple

@datsmdubya2u says:

(outta lurking…hypocrite that i am)
Candi Apple says:
I think some people read comments and see what they want…
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I was responding to the implication. Plenty of questions about the mother but no questions about the criminals that did this to her. jus sayin’
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Not you personally. I feel you say what you want its a free world a story has several sides.

All I know is a woman is dead due to a senseless shooting. I also know that as stated before NY has stiff laws about what occurs around or on school grounds. The shooter will get everything coming to them. So he/she may as well bend over because no negotiation will be a good one for them. If they are a child they will be tried as an adult. And the amount of charges that will be thrown on the shooter will amaze the average eye.
JMO

YSoSerious says:

@CHA

My mama was triflin too…And I bet money she wouldn’t have jumped in front of a bullet to save nobody. Probably not even one of us.
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http://youtu.be/wHTo_QgKM5g chibytex aka the people’s champ

How did she deal with all 12 of them muthafukkers
Chibes do better chile
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Sorry for calling them muthafukkers… but that’s my real question. How in the hell in THIS day and age did she do it. Especially with 2 handicapped kids…That’s a whole LOT of responsibility and SELFLESSNESS!!!
!*LaKErCHiC@*!

my granny gave birth to 21 16 survived so fuk all the bs about her having 12 kids lets talk about the crime and the mo’fukas who did it!!
Creamychic

FeFe says:

I guess folks get more love and support if they go into a fit of rage and crush someone’s skull during an altercation than if they jump in the line of fire to save another child’s life….I also guess that a person’s past in one situation matters, and in another it doesn’t…
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Came out the to girl you a mess
JMO

chibytex aka the people’s champ says:

And I bet money she wouldn’t have jumped in front of a bullet to save nobody. Probably not even one of us.
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My mama probably would have push ME in FRONT of the bullet to save her own damn life!
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Dayum
Honycoatd—Going off a feeling, I see you!!!

Its all about structure and order. If you let your children act a fool constantly then you might go mad with all those children.
JMO

CHA Deuce says:

Who JMO?

I happen to be one of six kids… my granny raised us al …My mama was mad trifling…shes a good person now but people always said in the same breathe as my mamas name “She got all them damn kids” No judgement here… God takes care of fools and babies
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Said poster who looks like flava flavs mom
OutsidetheBox

Got it @Mamacita.

Would we care who was doing the “afters” if there were only 3 children? This is for the board…

I still dont get why those questions HAVE to be raised by Sandra and others. My most basic thought is cause were all conditioned to believe that “we” will shoulder the “burden” … aint nobody ask who was taking care of Steve Jobs kids when he passed…

When the couple in south fla was murdered leaving a bunch of handicapped kids, folks was lining up to take them home not questioning their sanity.
http://youtu.be/0aCwkF3YWmo YSoSerious

Also, I don’t those of us wondering how this woman managed to do it with so many kids takes away from her sacrifice. If anything, it makes what she did even more amazing.
http://youtu.be/wHTo_QgKM5g chibytex aka the people’s champ

FeFe says:

@chiby

Ion care about them trifling bbq wives…last night’s episode was STOOOPID….and I probably need to stop following Jackie Christie on Twitter…
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I agree HOWEVER my question is how Jackie gonna be causing/worried about drama at a CANCER fundraiser event, when her own mother is dying of cancer. That was tacky, rude, and selfish…. I cannot STAND her….
http://www.facebook.com/home.php?#/profile.php?ref=profile&id=1335451522 therapist1911

How do you raise 12 children and not go in sane………

You love them…

My grandmother had 16 kids, one set of twinc…all by my Granddaddy…………weell Uncle Frank is questionable but fora ll intent and purpose he is my G-dad’s.
http://absurdvanity.com AbsurdVanity

That is so sad. I wonder if the families of the children she saved are going to assist with the care of Zurana’s 12 kids.
caligirl

!*LaKErCHiC@*! says:

my granny gave birth to 21 16 survived so fuk all the bs about her having 12 kids lets talk about the crime and the mo’fukas who did it!!
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2nJoefWJY_c SamYell JacksEm

My momma had 5 kids (one died), took in my auntie’s 4 when she got cracked out, took in 3 of the oldests 4 kids when she turned out to be shyt as well. Did all that without wellfare. She was definitely the type of woman that would’ve dived in front of those bullets. I have my issues with her stretching herself so thin but I believe wholeheartedly that the world is better because of folks like her.
OutsidetheBox

im just not going to agree on that one!

I will say for most modern Americans 12 kids is a lot.
Honycoatd—Going off a feeling, I see you!!!

I use to want 11 children the same as my father at the time (hes pass that now) and I am well on my way although I think I don’t want to give birth to anymore but I am a big supporter of adoption. Chit I got my 2 youngest sisters by my mother that I am raising and I don’t even get to claim them as a deduction and then my grown cousin at over 40 knocked up some young girl who already gave away 2 previous babies. And I don’t get to even claim her. So it is hard work but I do what I do for the betterment of mankind because I do believe some people do have good intentions and want the best for others.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KvyMqZFBzXc&feature=related datsmdubya2u

@ CHI

Sorry for calling them muthafukkers… but that’s my real question. How in the hell in THIS day and age did she do it. Especially with 2 handicapped kids…That’s a whole LOT of responsibility and SELFLESSNESS!!!

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selflessness is why her first instinct was to jump in front of those kids instead of running and hiding herself. AND SHE WORKED A JOB ON TOP OF IT ALL…. people need to leave her alone and make it be known they want anyone found guilty of this crime to get the maximum punishment. NO PLEA BARGINS!
candibfly

awesome :wave: <—- judge joe brown's mustache
NaijaGal

Seriously what does the amount of children she has have to do with her taking an unnecessary bullet from a wannabe thug. GTFOHWTBS
Tatted Diva AKA The Makeup Maven

chibytex aka the people’s champ says:

My mother’s mother had 12 and my daddy’s mother had 13….both ended up with a 11 apiece because a couple of the babies died at childbirth. Its really not that uncommon down south to have a lot of kids. Cause those women lived by the bible and in the bible it says BE FRUITFUL and MULTIPLY!!
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I want to first start out by saying, may this lady RIP. I think it’s noble for ANYONE to jump in front of a bullet so save someone else’s life, let alone a life that they did not help to conceive, so….I’m loving this woman right now!

2nd, Chibs, girl……. I do believe that it is more common for women in the south to have more babies than women in the north (back in the day) but I definitely don’t think it had NOTHING to do w/women in the south living by the Bible. There are plenty women in the North that live by the Bible as well. I do not and will not believe that ANYONE with more than 4 or 5 chillen’s woke up and said, I’mma be fruitful and multiply having umpteen children! I think that #1, that husband/man could not stay up out of it, #2 there wasn’t that much to do but work back then so husbands and wives recreation was to have sex, which leads to them conceiving & 3rd, it just simply happened that way!
Mamacita

@Chiby I feel you. Hell my lil 8lb dog is a hadful, gets on my nerves at times, and her trips to the vet??? Hell my dog has a health care plan! That’s my child until I stop fearing childbirth…which may take a min.
OutsidetheBox

Its all about structure and order.

The same way it works (theoretically!) in schools and other large number environments!
ohpretty1

Questions like who’s the father since someone will have to tak care of the kids? Did she have a job/life insurance? Will the kids have to be split up? etc.

@ Mamacita – IMO, these are normal questions for people who care about kids or are compassionate, but like I said in the beginning I knew many things in this post would be taken out of context. By no means should questions like this be confused with judging Ms. Horton. I ask myself these types of questions when watching the news daily because this on this day and time, not everyone has that strong extended family unit like we used to.
candibfly

lawd i don’t even know if i want one

i hope the police is actively searching for this person and hope that justice is served
Nyedai

after reading the comments majority is more amazed about how many kids she has not the kids she saved. Wow! and we wonder why our society is F’d up! hmp! A life is a life worth saving regardless of were it orginaited from or who it is associated to. Once we forget that we might as well stop living ourselves.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KvyMqZFBzXc&feature=related datsmdubya2u

@ Candi

he/she may as well bend over because no negotiation will be a good one for them. If they are a child they will be tried as an adult. And the amount of charges that will be thrown on the shooter will amaze the average eye.

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I hope so…no plea bargins and ish….
http://youtu.be/0aCwkF3YWmo YSoSerious

Sht…I know my mother didn’t have 9 damn kids cause the Bible told her to.
Honycoatd—Going off a feeling, I see you!!!

Could not have said it better @ OTB

Chit I am for large families… I side-eye people with 1 and even look at the child like aren’t you lonely
candibfly

wow that was horrible grammar in my last post. i blame it on this day bein so flippin slow *flips over a buick*
Honycoatd—Going off a feeling, I see you!!!

lmao @ YSO

My dad use to say that— he has alot of children because the more you have the better chance one will take care of you.
OutsidetheBox

Also, I don’t those of us wondering how this woman managed to do it with so many kids takes away from her sacrifice. If anything, it makes what she did even more amazing.

@Yso Oh I know that! Def.! But in the other breath I just want to say or scream its really not that bad or amazing, IMO. yes, yes in the grand scheme, its a person and there all human and chit but…

Women have been raising families since the beginning of time.

There are some days that are bad, some are worse, the majority of those you dont eben remember!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NST6L340KFc&feature=youtube_gdata_player MzDimplez1123

@ Therapist….How you gonna clown Uncle Frank though.

@ Chiby…I agree and I also find it sickening that they are broadcasting that woman’s drawn out death like that for tv. Hell couldn’t Jackie just speak about her versus them doing all that for dramatization? Hell how you leave your sick mama and then go right outside and act a fewl? Maybe that’s gonna be her spin, her mama was dying and she was overwhelmed with emotion and acting out of character.
Tatted Diva AKA The Makeup Maven

YSoSerious says:

Sht…I know my mother didn’t have 9 damn kids cause the Bible told her to.
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EXAACTLY!

BTW – HEEEEEEY EVERYONE!
AllNYC

One man was the father of 9 of the children. He was distraught on the news. So she doesn’t have as many baby daddies are you may think.
Honycoatd—Going off a feeling, I see you!!!

<< Lost on the BBQ highlights.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2nJoefWJY_c SamYell JacksEm

Candi!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KvyMqZFBzXc&feature=related datsmdubya2u

@Neydai

Nyedai says:

after reading the comments majority is more amazed about how many kids she has not the kids she saved. Wow! and we wonder why our society is F’d up! hmp! A life is a life worth saving regardless of were it orginaited from or who it is associated to. Once we forget that we might as well stop living ourselves.

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After some further reflection on my part im willing to try to understand why the woman is being judged more than the murderer.

I think it’s just too mind boggling to try and figure out why our young people are killing each other in droves than to speculate on why people who have sex have children.

Poverty, gun control, angry young men, drugs and gangs = complicated

Focusing on a woman who has 12 kids = easy
http://youtu.be/wHTo_QgKM5g chibytex aka the people’s champ

I do not and will not believe that ANYONE with more than 4 or 5 chillen’s woke up and said, I’mma be fruitful and multiply having umpteen children!
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My cousin (the one who I posted above that has the 10 kids) did. I over heard her and her husband talking to my aunt one day and my cousin said that they didnt believe in birth control and that she was willing to have as many kids as God will allow her to have. I was thinking this bish is crazy…but at my grandmother’s funeral all her kids were there. They were dressed nicely and all were smart…Some women were put on this earth to be nurturers and to have alot of kids…I aint one of them…
candibfly

i hope he can take at least those 9 (or 7 cause i think 2 live with him?). i really hate to see kids getting split up and sent all over
https://sandrarose.com Sandra Rose

@ Ms. Everything:

See, this is why I like to keep my registration locked up tightly. I never said she was on welfare. I simply asked a legit question. If she had 12 children she should have been at home with her kids. If that means being on welfare, then so be it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KvyMqZFBzXc&feature=related datsmdubya2u

@ Tatted!
OutsidetheBox

I do not and will not believe that ANYONE with more than 4 or 5 chillen’s woke up and said, I’mma be fruitful and multiply having umpteen children

I would suggest more reading on that if youre going to be emphatic about the statement. IJS. There are indeed ppl who raise multiple children to throw our children (“the non belivers”) into the fire pits of hell.

Im so serious.
Honycoatd—Going off a feeling, I see you!!!

All in all it is sad— a mother is gone! A brave woman is gone!
OutsidetheBox

he has alot of children because the more you have the better chance one will take care of you

Chitttt I say this!!! LMAO!!!
candibfly

If she had 12 children she should have been at home with her kids.
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maybe she has a babysitter, maybe her family helps her out so she can work and make money to support her family. why does having that many children have to equate to her sitting at home all day long watching them?
JMO

chibytex aka the people’s champ says:

I do not and will not believe that ANYONE with more than 4 or 5 chillen’s woke up and said, I’mma be fruitful and multiply having umpteen children!
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My cousin (the one who I posted above that has the 10 kids) did. I over heard her and her husband talking to my aunt one day and my cousin said that they didnt believe in birth control and that she was willing to have as many kids as God will allow her to have. I was thinking this bish is crazy…but at my grandmother’s funeral all her kids were there. They were dressed nicely and all were smart…Some women were put on this earth to be nurturers and to have alot of kids…I aint one of them…
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My aunts told me that back in the day, my grandma didn’t believe in birth control. I realized some years ago (after doing a little math) that one of my aunts had my cousin at 14! She eventually had 2 more but they ended up ok
OutsidetheBox

I think it’s just too mind boggling to try and figure out why our young people are killing each other in droves than to speculate on why people who have sex have children.
Honycoatd—Going off a feeling, I see you!!!

That is my dad’s grand statement… And I already know which one of mines will most definitely be hiring a nurse to clean me up.
http://youtu.be/wHTo_QgKM5g chibytex aka the people’s champ

Chit I am for large families… I side-eye people with 1 and even look at the child like aren’t you lonely
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If I have it my way, Ladybug will be the only child. Some days I do want another one, but then I snap back into reality and be like well she has her sister in the summertime, chit that’s enough. Children are expensive. And they take up a lot of time. Plus my nerves are bad. I likes to travel and stuff so having too many will put a stop to that…I aint with that.
!*LaKErCHiC@*!

@hony hold me
OutsidetheBox

after reading the comments majority is more amazed about how many kids she has not the kids she saved.

I done posted 17 damn times and couldnt just say that Good job.
JMO

Sandra Rose says:

@ Ms. Everything:

See, this is why I like to keep my registration locked up tightly. I never said she was on welfare. I simply asked a legit question. If she had 12 children she should have been at home with her kids. If that means being on welfare, then so be it.
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… instead of working though?? I’m lost
candibfly

i think u can be amazed at both
nilano3

I just want to point out that is definitely NOT Zurana Horton pictured.
There are countless pics of her on Google and on her Myspace page.
I think this is a sad situation all the way around.
Honycoatd—Going off a feeling, I see you!!!

Beachybabe It will be otay
Creamychic

Sandra Rose says:

@ Ms. Everything:

See, this is why I like to keep my registration locked up tightly. I never said she was on welfare. I simply asked a legit question. If she had 12 children she should have been at home with her kids. If that means being on welfare, then so be it.

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Y feel the need Sandymae to justify yourself, you said what you mean, and you meant what you said, Everybody is not always gonna agree with you, but as long as you know what you said if from deep within ur heart, that’s all that matter #helpful back to my
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KvyMqZFBzXc&feature=related datsmdubya2u

@ Sandra

@ Ms. Everything:

See, this is why I like to keep my registration locked up tightly. I never said she was on welfare. I simply asked a legit question. If she had 12 children she should have been at home with her kids. If that means being on welfare, then so be it

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With all due respect You still judging her though. Staying home vs. working..that’s still judging. I think it’s inappropriate to judge a dead woman who can’t defend herself. One thing about welfare. There is a 5 yr lifetime limit in most cases. Since her disabled kids lived with their dad. she would have been expected to get a job. That requirement was put in place by Bill Clinton and Newt Gingrich in the 1996 welfare reform act.
OutsidetheBox

It aint for everybody.
!*LaKErCHiC@*!
http://youtu.be/wHTo_QgKM5g chibytex aka the people’s champ

I would suggest more reading on that if youre going to be emphatic about the statement. IJS. There are indeed ppl who raise multiple children to throw our children (“the non belivers”) into the fire pits of hell.

Im so serious.
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Candi Apple

datsmdubya2u says:

After some further reflection on my part im willing to try to understand why the woman is being judged more than the murderer.
I think it’s just too mind boggling to try and figure out why our young people are killing each other in droves than to speculate on why people who have sex have children.
Poverty, gun control, angry young men, drugs and gangs = complicated
Focusing on a woman who has 12 kids = easy
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I think its the way the articles are steered.

Comments are steered to protect and dispel the views of the article.

To look at the child is to look at the parent and their parenting skills. Many youth don’t have proper guidance or mentor’s to guide them. Some lash out in anger and hence the lining up of revenge. Anger is a bad emotion and so is Love. Most people don’t think about the action they line up their victim in an angry state as opposed to thinking about what a person is really saying or what a person actions are based on.

Some youth follow the pack because they have a sense of belonging therefore lacking something at home.

So many different angles
Tatted Diva AKA The Makeup Maven

@ Chibs – you’re right about SOME people wanting to have a lot of children, 2 of them being your cuz and the man/woman from 19 kids and counting, but ummmmmm JUST KIDDING

But seriously, a lot of women do not think they will have a lot of children, God just works it out for them that way! I personally feel children are a blessing, especially when they turn into productive members of society! At this point in my life, I would have as many as God would allow but I have not been blessed to have any soooooo…..

Also, @ Hony, I was an only child, but my aunts and uncles had plenty of children so I had plenty to play with, plus I had plenty friends. So not all children that have brothers and sisters are lonely. Hell, after playing w/my cousins all dayum day/weekend, I was THRILLED to go home and be in my room by myself!
Nyedai

@datsmdubya2u

this almost made me cry.. Not to many people are willing to admit that

@Neydai

Nyedai says:

after reading the comments majority is more amazed about how many kids she has not the kids she saved. Wow! and we wonder why our society is F’d up! hmp! A life is a life worth saving regardless of were it orginaited from or who it is associated to. Once we forget that we might as well stop living ourselves.

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After some further reflection on my part im willing to try to understand why the woman is being judged more than the murderer.

I think it’s just too mind boggling to try and figure out why our young people are killing each other in droves than to speculate on why people who have sex have children.

Poverty, gun control, angry young men, drugs and gangs = complicated

Focusing on a woman who has 12 kids = easy

Hats off to you!!!!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NST6L340KFc&feature=youtube_gdata_player MzDimplez1123

I was thinking that she was taking care of her kids considering she died picking them up from school.

I guess now she’s at fault because she wasn’t homeschooling them.

Wait, I said I was leaving didn’t I?
!*LaKErCHiC@*!

@nila thats what i said.. that dont look like her from the news.. she too bright.. BUT THAT AINT THE ONLY THING AUNTIE DONE FUKED UP ON TODAY SO HEY…
candibfly

i wonder if they have re-evaluated or increased their security at this school? prob not and that’s sad
Tatted Diva AKA The Makeup Maven

Heeeeey @ Dats. How you be???
Honycoatd—Going off a feeling, I see you!!!

Not trying to bash America at all but my observation when it comes to mentalities based on family values, religion and such. Like in the Caribbean this is normally for large families and I can say many don’t even have the opportunities available to Americans. But there outlook is that it takes a village to raise a child and no man is an island and no man stands alone. We are all intertwined and if we look at it that 2 hands can clap instead of always trying to do the 1 hand trick we would be better off.
ohpretty1

If she had 12 children she should have been at home with her kids.

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It didn’t read she was a habitual party-goer who often left her children unattended and endangered. She was a mother getting her child from school. Come on. Really?
OutsidetheBox

Hmmm. For me I thinks its how you guys view Bey!
Me: Bey = as a singer, person, etc.

Y’all: Bey = LOL!

Childrearing: Y’all:

Me:

#disclaimer the number of smilies was sooo crucial to my point! Apologies in advance! LOL
BlackBeauti

At least we are aware that having 12 children and supposedly pregnant wiht the 13th one she had some good arse coochie.
Tatted Diva AKA The Makeup Maven

candibfly says:

i think u can be amazed at both
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http://absurdvanity.com AbsurdVanity

Sandra Rose says:

See, this is why I like to keep my registration locked up tightly. I never said she was on welfare. I simply asked a legit question. If she had 12 children she should have been at home with her kids. If that means being on welfare, then so be it.
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Welfare doesn’t pay for much and she had 12 kids to take care of.
OutsidetheBox

Wait, I said I was leaving didn’t I?

You cant do it!!!!!!! LOL

Dont leave me friend!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KvyMqZFBzXc&feature=related datsmdubya2u

@Oh pretty

ohpretty1 says:

If she had 12 children she should have been at home with her kids.

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It didn’t read she was a habitual party-goer who often left her children unattended and endangered. She was a mother getting her child from school. Come on. Really?

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I think people who stay home with their kids also pick them up from school. That’s all she was doing….I don’t get how staying at home vs working would have made any difference in this case.
Tatted Diva AKA The Makeup Maven

BlackBeauti says:

At least we are aware that having 12 children and supposedly pregnant wiht the 13th one she had some good arse coochie.
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& &
Nyedai

OTB u r nuts u know that
OutsidetheBox

BUT THAT AINT THE ONLY THING AUNTIE DONE FUKED UP ON TODAY SO HEY…

*MoniQue voice* Bish is you hungry????

you so mean today!!!! Almost thought that was my font! LOL!
http://youtu.be/wHTo_QgKM5g chibytex aka the people’s champ

@Honycoated
It cause Caribbean values, want, and needs are different. Women there are comfortable staying at home and raising kids. In America, women here want to be somebody OUTSIDE the house besides a mother and a wife. Hell I didnt get all this education just be somebody’s wife and mother. Its just not enough gratification in that….

But I get your point though…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NST6L340KFc&feature=youtube_gdata_player MzDimplez1123

@ OTB. Don’t YOU getcho ass on one day restriction for smiley abuse.
JMO

MzDimplez1123 says:

I was thinking that she was taking care of her kids considering she died picking them up from school.

I guess now she’s at fault because she wasn’t homeschooling them.

Wait, I said I was leaving didn’t I?
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Tatted Diva AKA The Makeup Maven

I believe Americans value family values and religions and such. Sure, not ALL Americans do, but not all “others” do it either!
OutsidetheBox

At least we are aware that having 12 children and supposedly pregnant wiht the 13th one she had some good arse coochie.

Too soon Black! Too soon! SMH!
Tatted Diva AKA The Makeup Maven

OutsidetheBox says:

BUT THAT AINT THE ONLY THING AUNTIE DONE FUKED UP ON TODAY SO HEY…

*MoniQue voice* Bish is you hungry????

you so mean today!!!! Almost thought that was my font! LOL!
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– I you!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NST6L340KFc&feature=youtube_gdata_player MzDimplez1123

At least we are aware that having 12 children and supposedly pregnant wiht the 13th one she had some good arse coochie.

I thought we said we was stating out of puzzies and uteruses.
JMO

BlackBeauti says:

At least we are aware that having 12 children and supposedly pregnant wiht the 13th one she had some good arse coochie.
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… comments like these is why Sandra should keep her registration locked up tightly …
OutsidetheBox

Hell I didnt get all this education just be somebody’s wife and mother. Its just not enough gratification in that….

*stutters…*

Aww fu ck it.

#TeamBeyonce
Mamacita

@OTB you ill cray
Candi Apple

Ok Now do I think she is “fast” and started early…

You ever see the little girl with her hand on her hip popping her gum looking at the boys (age 12) She to grown for herself. She is a fast child. When the girl grow up and has many children people will say I knew it I saw it in her when she was 10 yrs old. People are fast azzes in the world no doubting that…. dodging the bullets
Honycoatd—Going off a feeling, I see you!!!

@ Chiby

Likewise. I didn’t get my degrees by being married to a man with money and having his babies, chit. But surprisingly they are not sitting home anymore and many of them have to work and are looking at the bigger picture. The world views on America are bad and “America” has made a name for themselves being who they are. Sadly it is not the reflects of all of them but sometimes one bad apple spoil the bunch.
laterthannever

I would suggest more reading on that if youre going to be emphatic about the statement. IJS. There are indeed ppl who raise multiple children to throw our children (“the non belivers”) into the fire pits of hell.

Im so serious.

Are you familiar with the Gothards/Gothardites? These fundamentalist [insert religion, I know mostly about the Christian ones] have a plan, a bunch of willing (or beat into willingness) wombs, and are building armies. More self-created “like minded” individuals = more votes for your beliefs, more power, etc. The Duggars are the sugar coated version but it is not just a baby making game. :/
Tatted Diva AKA The Makeup Maven

MZD – Imma (name twin) – I just sent you an email. Please respond ASAP!

Thank you. <—— starbucks hot chocolate w/whipped cream!
http://youtu.be/wHTo_QgKM5g chibytex aka the people’s champ

OutsidetheBox says:

At least we are aware that having 12 children and supposedly pregnant wiht the 13th one she had some good arse coochie.
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Apparently so huh!!! Ion know I’m sure it was very tight though!! If she pushed 12 children out…It aint going back to its normal size. Ion care how many kegal exercises she did!
JMO

MzDimplez1123 says:

At least we are aware that having 12 children and supposedly pregnant wiht the 13th one she had some good arse coochie.

I thought we said we was stating out of puzzies and uteruses.
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I believe the correct term is …. uteri

just kidding
http://youtu.be/wHTo_QgKM5g chibytex aka the people’s champ

*wast very tight
!*LaKErCHiC@*!

@otb i just having one of them days.. u know them I CANT BELIEVE THIS BYTCH RIGHT HERE WTF??
@TATT
OutsidetheBox

Thats what it takes to raise multiples now a days apparently!!!

But for real, you all share the sentiments of many around me. I do use a Village to raise my family. And i stay milking they asses. Ma im so tired! I cant do it! *wail*

Although more kids get dropped to my house vs my kids going away. They never wanna go for long enough!
Creamychic

can we get a new post please
JMO

OutsidetheBox says:

Hell I didnt get all this education just be somebody’s wife and mother. Its just not enough gratification in that….

*stutters…*

Aww fu ck it.

#TeamBeyonce
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http://youtu.be/wHTo_QgKM5g chibytex aka the people’s champ

@OTB
What’s wrong with what I said?
Ms. Everything

Sandra no you didn’t say that but in other comments I’ve read (not just on here) comments have been made towards her being a welfare mother based on how many children she has which bothers me because people assume that women with multiple children have no choice but to go on welfare. It’s a common assumption that drives me insane because I get hit without a lot of welfare digs myself when I will admit I’ve been on twice and never for more than 2 – 3 months at a time but because I have so many children it’s assumed I can’t do anything but sit home and collect a check just like many are assuming here. and I’m sure she would’ve loved to sit home with her kids but at the same time welfare does not pay enough to allow anyone who actually wants something out of life to be able to do that so I applaud her for working and caring for those kids, which is just as hard if not harder to do as staying at home. There are times I wish I could stay home with my babies but feeding, clothing, housing and setting a good example for them is more important than what I wish I could do.
Tatted Diva AKA The Makeup Maven

Heeeey Lakes IS THAT YOUR GIRL CRUSH YOU WERE TOM’BOUT???
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oFwik0Lon-g&ob=av2e FeFe

Mannnn…our fuggin power went out at work …I’m ret to go home! Sittin here on my phone trying to be entertained by SR….
OutsidetheBox

@laterthanneverr Sadly, yes.

When I 1st started working in corporate a woman assumed I was the “religious Right” <—her words. because I had a lot of kids.

So I researched it and yeah, I USED to love the Duggars. Now, not so much… or at all!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NST6L340KFc&feature=youtube_gdata_player MzDimplez1123

@ JMO…Is that the proper term for it? Well, regardless, i’m staying out of her’s.
Honycoatd—Going off a feeling, I see you!!!

@ Ms. Everything how many babies do you have?
!*LaKErCHiC@*!

@TATT ZOE SALDANA I JUST LOOOVE HER HAVE U WATCH COLOMBIANA? THAT MO’FUKN MOVIE IS GOOD!!
Tatted Diva AKA The Makeup Maven

Ms. Everything says:

Sandra no you didn’t say that but in other comments I’ve read (not just on here) comments have been made towards her being a welfare mother based on how many children she has which bothers me because people assume that women with multiple children have no choice but to go on welfare. It’s a common assumption that drives me insane because I get hit without a lot of welfare digs myself when I will admit I’ve been on twice and never for more than 2 – 3 months at a time but because I have so many children it’s assumed I can’t do anything but sit home and collect a check just like many are assuming here. and I’m sure she would’ve loved to sit home with her kids but at the same time welfare does not pay enough to allow anyone who actually wants something out of life to be able to do that so I applaud her for working and caring for those kids, which is just as hard if not harder to do as staying at home. There are times I wish I could stay home with my babies but feeding, clothing, housing and setting a good example for them is more important than what I wish I could do.
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I’m not one who automatically assumes she is on welfare. Hell, I know bish’s w/2 kids on the system, so IMO it has nothing to do w/the amount of children, but has EVERYTHING to do w/the mother. I know women who had a lot of children who worked & went to college……
KDub

O’Niel Vaughn (yes it was spelled like that)…father of 8 of her kids…says she was an awesome mother and he has no doubt that she would risk her life protecting her own kids and those other kids again.
OutsidetheBox

Shutthefluckup! JMO!!!!!

@Chi, some would say different. My education has only made me a better mom. If I could stay home and raise them ($$$$$), oh man, y’all think them other Jacksons was something

I’ll have them chits dunking, acting, science-whizzing, turning salt water intoi fresh, oh yes!!!!!

All the way to Martha’s vineyard <—- really a $18 cocktail LOL!
caligirl

FeFe says:

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Mannnn…our fuggin power went out at work …I’m ret to go home! Sittin here on my phone trying to be entertained by SR….
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I just got out a meeting doing some x-mas shopping. BORED

@ Tatted – Try with 1 child and two degrees. Times is hard!
!*LaKErCHiC@*!

AND YES IT TAKES A VILLAGE TO RAISE A CHILD I KNOW I GOT NO SHAME IN LETTING TITA *GRANNY** DO HER GRANNY DUTTIES AND THEN SOME IF SHE WANTS…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KvyMqZFBzXc&feature=related datsmdubya2u

@Candi

Ok Now do I think she is “fast” and started early…

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She could have been a lonely child looking for affection in the wrong ways. Somebody could have taken advantage of her. She could have wanted children to have somebody to love her unconditionally. She could’ve just been one of those people who go through life and let whatever happens happen. Could have been a lot of things. Could be improper use of BC. Could have been she didn’t believe in BC. who knows. doesn’t matter now.

You can ask a million different single moms why they had a kid OOW and get a million different answers. Me? I used to delude myself and say I got pregnant with my daughter even though I was on BC. “BC didn’t work for me.” I used to say to defend myself. When I became honest I admitted to myself that although I had BC i wasn’t using it properly, i.e skipping days, not taking the pill at the same time everyday. Condoms? Yes I had my BF use them but like a lot of people we weren’t consistent. People have to start being honest with themselves and we’ll find that will solve a lot of problems. Including some of the problems that led to this woman getting killed.
caligirl

OutsidetheBox says:

Shutthefluckup! JMO!!!!!

@Chi, some would say different. My education has only made me a better mom. If I could stay home and raise them ($$$$$), oh man, y’all think them other Jacksons was something

I’ll have them chits dunking, acting, science-whizzing, turning salt water intoi fresh, oh yes!!!!!

All the way to Martha’s vineyard <—- really a $18 cocktail LOL!
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High azz cocktails…on my way shortly to have one. I think they only 14 though….I can't wait.
Tatted Diva AKA The Makeup Maven

@ lakes – Oh okay. I haven’t watched the movie yet. I’m not a big fan of hers, although I her in Seven. I cannot wait for J. Edgar to come out!
http://youtu.be/wHTo_QgKM5g chibytex aka the people’s champ

@Chi, some would say different. My education has only made me a better mom. If I could stay home and raise them ($$$$$), oh man, y’all think them other Jacksons was something

I’ll have them chits dunking, acting, science-whizzing, turning salt water intoi fresh, oh yes!!!!!
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As much as I love my daughter and being a mother, its just not enough. I want to be somebody besides her mother. I dont see how my grandmothers stayed at home ALL their lives and simply just raised kid after kid after kid. Hell I’m going insane staying at home with one. There is only so much you can clean or so much you can cook. Its gets boring.

To each its own I guess…..
KDub

I know women who had a lot of children who worked & went to college……
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A friend of mine has 7 and she is an atty. She has 3 degrees.

BA in Social Work
MA in Social Work
JD (in law of course)

And she was a teen mom at 17. And she had 4 by the time she finished her undergrad. Numbers 5 and 6 (twins) came during the masters program. And the wee baby…well his lil azz just popped up outta nowhere about two years ago
OutsidetheBox

Gotta run to the bank, Hons!!!! GREAT DISCUSSION TODAY!!!

I s y’all!!!
Tatted Diva AKA The Makeup Maven

@ caligirl – I don’t doubt it one bit! I have NO CHILDREN, and times get hard for me…..AT TIMES! Other times, I’m living High on the Hog, and their ain’t not holes in the washtub!
http://youtu.be/wHTo_QgKM5g chibytex aka the people’s champ

!*LaKErCHiC@*! says:

AND YES IT TAKES A VILLAGE TO RAISE A CHILD I KNOW I GOT NO SHAME IN LETTING TITA *GRANNY** DO HER GRANNY DUTTIES AND THEN SOME IF SHE WANTS…
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Yeah it takes a village, but more importantly it takes a PAYCHECK to raise a child. I’m talking a putting the kid in a GOOD school, properly clothing and feeding, field trips, family vacations. ALL that chit cost money. The village is cool, if they asses is financially contributing, if not then Ion need no village.
Tatted Diva AKA The Makeup Maven

@ KDub – a determined woman is NOTHING to fugg w/! I’m convinced of that!
http://youtu.be/0aCwkF3YWmo YSoSerious

OTB

Spot me a $20 okay? Okay.
ohpretty1

The village is cool, if they asses is financially contributing, if not then Ion need no village.

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#nojudging
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hBrmhl70e38 Unpredictable

Yes, it does definitely take a village!!!!!

And when I finally have my 6+ babies, my SR Fam better be right there!!!!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KvyMqZFBzXc&feature=related datsmdubya2u

@ CHI

The village is cool, if they asses is financially contributing, if not then Ion need no village

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admit it you don’t want nobody telling your kid or you what to do….lol
Ms. Everything

@Hony I have 4 and @Tatted I feel you, I know chicks with no kids that will sit on GR and do nothing other than lay up under a man to supplement what their check won’t cover. Unfortunately for every person like you that looks at the person there are 5 more that will look at my babies and ASSume I have multiple baby daddies, never been married, am in my early twenties and collect a check from the county
http://chachafiles.blogspot.com/ CHA Deuce

BlackBeauti says:

At least we are aware that having 12 children and supposedly pregnant wiht the 13th one she had some good arse coochie.

OTB lately have I told you I lub you… lately have I told you that you mean the world to me

THATS FOR TAT TAT TATTTTTED UP

JMO Im still searching
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KvyMqZFBzXc&feature=related datsmdubya2u

@ Chi

I mean nobody in the “village”
http://youtu.be/0aCwkF3YWmo YSoSerious

@OGMOMMY

Sht…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oFwik0Lon-g&ob=av2e FeFe

Well u guys have a good night…I honestly got a headache from this post…just popped some pills, gonna leave the office and go lie down…sending up for this beautiful angel and her family….
http://youtu.be/0aCwkF3YWmo YSoSerious

FEFE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hBrmhl70e38 Unpredictable

Tatted Diva AKA The Makeup Maven says:

@ KDub – a determined woman is NOTHING to fugg w/! I’m convinced of that!
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KvyMqZFBzXc&feature=related datsmdubya2u

night FE FE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hBrmhl70e38 Unpredictable

YSoSerious says:

@OGMOMMY

Sht…
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KDub

@ KDub – a determined woman is NOTHING to fugg w/! I’m convinced of that!
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She is THAT bish. I thought she was all of that and two bags of chips when she graduated on time with 4 babies, working full time with her undergrad. Then when she went on to grad school at night; I was like “ummm okay heffa..you showing OUT…”

She got laid off and got a HUGE severance package. Calls me one day out the clear blue sky and is like I am going to law school…I been saving my guap, I got enough for us to live on for the next year, still got this package money AND I can collect my unemployment. At that point I was like DEW it bish
http://youtu.be/0aCwkF3YWmo YSoSerious

Oh, and I didn’t know you had to have “good coochie” to birth babies. I know a few bad (as in rotten) pussy btches that have several kids.
http://youtu.be/wHTo_QgKM5g chibytex aka the people’s champ

@Dats
It aint that at all. I just feel like the “village” love dont pay no bills or tuition. My family can love and want to watch Ladybug for me all they want to, but I bet if I call their asses and ask them for the $150 for her daycare this week, I’m gonna get whole bunch of excuses and where’s her daddy type of answers. Hell I can watch and love my own kid. How about buying her some shoes or clothes. SPEND some money bishes…
Danielle

My heart goes out to her family… just sad
caligirl

@Tatted – For the record that wasn’t me. But if I had to I WOULD! I’ve been to Social Services office with clients and seen chics get in rides just as nice as mine. I’m thinking like how in the world….They had no shame.
caligirl

KDub says:

@ KDub – a determined woman is NOTHING to fugg w/! I’m convinced of that!
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She is THAT bish. I thought she was all of that and two bags of chips when she graduated on time with 4 babies, working full time with her undergrad. Then when she went on to grad school at night; I was like “ummm okay heffa..you showing OUT…”

She got laid off and got a HUGE severance package. Calls me one day out the clear blue sky and is like I am going to law school…I been saving my guap, I got enough for us to live on for the next year, still got this package money AND I can collect my unemployment. At that point I was like DEW it bish
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That’s what’s up! I like her style!!!!!! She is a BAD BISH!
Ms. Everything

Yso how bad does it have to be to be just rotten?? That made me in my mouth a little bit. Is rotten coochie the kind that you can smell from across the room even though chick is fully clothed with legs closed?
http://youtu.be/0aCwkF3YWmo YSoSerious

@CHIBY

See…I’m the exact opposite. I don’t expect my family to to do/buy anything for my kids cause everything comes with some sort of string attached. They have the basics, everything else is extra and if I don’t have it to give them oh well.

If it’s a gift, fine. But don’t do anything for my kids with the thought that suddenly I owe your ass more than a thank you.
http://youtu.be/wHTo_QgKM5g chibytex aka the people’s champ

@Yso
I’m not expecting them to do anything. My point is offering to watch them or coming by to see her is nice, but that really aint chit. IMO.
http://youtu.be/0aCwkF3YWmo YSoSerious

@CHIBY

I don’t even get that too often. I’m on my own in a lot of ways.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hBrmhl70e38 Unpredictable

I thank God daily for my Village
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KvyMqZFBzXc&feature=related datsmdubya2u

@ Chi

but I bet if I call their asses and ask them for the $150 for her daycare this week, I’m gonna get whole bunch of excuses and where’s her daddy type of answers

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I know right? ask for some money and you will get a rundown of every mistake made in your life and that’s why they ain’t loaning you nothing. At least that’s how it works in my family.
Bigbadwolf

Oh, and I didn’t know you had to have “good coochie” to birth babies. I know a few bad (as in rotten) pussy btches that have several kids.
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MzJuicy

Someone posted a facebook fundraiser event page they said The children and their ages are as follows:

NIEMA – AGE 1
SIYA – AGE 2
SHANIYA AGE 3
RAYMOND – AGE 5
MARTEES – AGE 6
JAZHAYA – AGE 8
CANIEL – AGE 10
ALESIS – AGE 11
STEPHAN – AGE 12
JENISHA – AGE 15
TYQURAN – AGE 16
QURAN – AGE 18
http://youtu.be/wHTo_QgKM5g chibytex aka the people’s champ

MzJuicy says:

Someone posted a facebook fundraiser event page they said The children and their ages are as follows:

NIEMA – AGE 1
SIYA – AGE 2
SHANIYA AGE 3
RAYMOND – AGE 5
MARTEES – AGE 6
JAZHAYA – AGE 8
CANIEL – AGE 10
ALESIS – AGE 11
STEPHAN – AGE 12
JENISHA – AGE 15
TYQURAN – AGE 16
QURAN – AGE 18
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WOW!!!
http://youtu.be/0aCwkF3YWmo YSoSerious

(reads MZJUICY comment…)

Before I show my ignorance…Do some of those names mean something biblical/spiritual?
ohpretty1

@YSO – Just come to the with me
Honycoatd—Going off a feeling, I see you!!!

Yes, they are just spelt differently.
Honycoatd—Going off a feeling, I see you!!!

Then you all would think my babies names are ghetto lol— fuk yall *middle finger*
MzJuicy

IDK…it’s a cut & paste from facebook/ via NY Post —-Horton leaves behind 12 children. She lost a 9-year-old daughter, Quranisha, to pneumonia in 2007.

Horton’s death caps an unthinkable triple tragedy for her mom, Denise Peace, one of whose sons was shot dead in a 1991 robbery and another slain last year.

~Hugs to her mom~
Honycoatd—Going off a feeling, I see you!!!

This story just is too heartbreaking today for me.
http://youtu.be/0aCwkF3YWmo YSoSerious

@OHPRETTY

What? I recognized Quran but them other ones…

*sigh*

(follows you to Da Kona )

@HONY

Go eat something greasy and non-organic. Ole evil heifer.
Candi Apple

@Dats

Really late response :hangsmyself:

datsmdubya2u says:

@Candi
Ok Now do I think she is “fast” and started early…
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She could have been a lonely child looking for affection in the wrong ways. Somebody could have taken advantage of her. She could have wanted children to have somebody to love her unconditionally. She could’ve just been one of those people who go through life and let whatever happens happen. Could have been a lot of things. Could be improper use of BC. Could have been she didn’t believe in BC. who knows. doesn’t matter now.
You can ask a million different single moms why they had a kid OOW and get a million different answers. Me? I used to delude myself and say I got pregnant with my daughter even though I was on BC. “BC didn’t work for me.” I used to say to defend myself. When I became honest I admitted to myself that although I had BC i wasn’t using it properly, i.e skipping days, not taking the pill at the same time everyday. Condoms? Yes I had my BF use them but like a lot of people we weren’t consistent. People have to start being honest with themselves and we’ll find that will solve a lot of problems. Including some of the problems that led to this woman getting killed.
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I don’t think every person who started having sex early necessarily came in contact with the issues you mentioned. Some little girls are just fast little girls. Knowing more than they should at a certain age (these kids do exist).
http://twitter.com/SayItaIntSoJoe8 Atypical

@ 61. Unless she’s was a police officer or worked for the secret service or something I’m pretty sure it wasn’t her job to die for people. Who gives a damn how many kids she had….
singer25

My mother in law Knew this lady and said she was a great person and a good mother. She lost her life trying to protect others thats noble…Lets not focus on how many kids she had lets focus on her kids not having a loving mother to grow up with….
isabella1881

RIP mama! I’m confused, I read a few different articles about this and I didn’t see where it said she was a teacher at that school, but I could be wrong. Also it said “Asia Horton also noted that her sister has given birth to 13 children and that one of her daughters died of pneumonia at the age of 9.”
PurpleYodaGirl

This story is really sad…she was also pregnant. I feel bad for her, her children and her mother losing three children to gun fire. I just don’t understand why the police weren’t patrolling this area after the first shooting. Brownsville is just scary. Maybe the police don’t even want to be there.