*UPDATE* Arrest Made in Shooting at Creflo Dollar’s World Changers Church

Update: An arrest has been made in the fatal shooting of a minister at Creflo Dollar’s megachurch in College Park early Wednesday. The shooting occurred inside the old chapel on the campus of World Changers church around 10:30 a.m.

According to witnesses, Greg McDowell, a 39-year-old volunteer prayer leader at the church was shot inside the old chapel — not in the famed World Changer’s chapel, where Bible study was being held. McDowell was transported to South Fulton hospital, where he was pronounced dead.

Wsbtv.com reports that 52-year-old Floyd Palmer was taken into custody an hour ago at Macy’s in the Lenox Square Mall in Buckhead, north of Atlanta.

U.S. Marshals joined with the county SWAT team in the massive manhunt for the shooter.

This post was originally published Oct. 24, 2012 at 11:42 a.m.

In a comment in this thread, loyal reader ‘WUT’ identified the shooter as a former minister at the church.

WUT writes:

I just found out from my sister that the person who did the shooting at C.A. Dollars church is Minister Palmer. He was a founding member there. Don’t know why it happened but he came into the old chapel during corporate prayer. The minister that was shot was in the pulpit conducting with his eyes closed and never saw the shot coming… so sad.

The suspect, Floyd Palmer, 52, is described as a “church employee who resigned in August for personal reasons,” according to a report on Wsbtv.com.

Police are on the lookout for a black Subaru in connection with the shooting, Wsbtv reports.

Nearby schools were locked down and classes were not disrupted.

It isn’t clear if Creflo Dollar was in the church at the time of the shooting. Dollar, 50, was arrested earlier this year for physically disciplining his 15-year-old daughter, Lauren.

Dollar said he spanked his daughter and wrestled her to the kitchen floor after she raised her hand at him. “I never should have been arrested,” he said.


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    • http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendID=72503781 yanibunny02

      what tha feezy???? :no:

    • Eazy

      Dammmmm they shooting up churches now? :blink:

    • kingstonn

      is that his real name? creflo dollar?

    • ReadingIsFundamental

      God Bless this man and his family and I pray for the person who shot him that he finds peace for whatever made him so irate to take another life.

      On a sinners note: Creflo be on that bullsh*t for real.

    • gbellab

      Was this a church member who didn’t give up 10% of his paycheck to the mighty church?

    • http://SandraRose.com Keesh

      kingstonn says:

      is that his real name? creflo dollar?

      I swear I was thinking the same thing :thinking:

    • Sweet-tea

      It’s always something! What is this world coming to!

    • Eazy

      Was this a church member who didn’t give up 10% of his paycheck to the mighty church?
      ______________________________
      shame :lol:

    • sassyshe

      Was this a church member who didn’t give up 10% of his paycheck to the mighty church?
      _______________________
      :tape: im trying real hard not to laugh

    • Bootcampgirl

      That’s his real name, he’s a Jr.

    • Xena68

      gbellab says:

      Was this a church member who didn’t give up 10% of his paycheck to the mighty church?

      :rofl:

    • lovezoe

      :pray: to the soul that was lost and their family

    • NaijaGal

      kingstonn says:

      is that his real name? creflo dollar?
      =================
      yes and his wife’s name is Taffy :tea:

    • Gigi26

      Was this a church member who didn’t give up 10% of his paycheck to the mighty church?
      ————————————————————-

      You know what? :kona: GO!

      :rofl:

      But real talk that’s crazy. :no:

    • Eazy

      Taffy Dollar :lol:

    • luVn_liFe…

      Oh My LorTee!

    • Gigi26

      Hell if we can have a Walnita and Tarlaysia, then we can have a Taffy and Creflo :yes:

      :lol:

    • SuthernBelle4

      :praying: for this men. As far as Creflo I can’t trust him no farther than I can throw him. Between his name being Creflo Dollar and that wife being Taffy, Jesus wept!

    • NaijaGal

      gbellab says:

      Was this a church member who didn’t give up 10% of his paycheck to the mighty church?
      ===================
      was talking to my friend last night about that whole 10% hustle :tea:

    • YSoSrs

      I hope this isn’t Sandra’s way of starting another “discipline vs abuse” debate. Like to keep my beautiful day going, please and thanks.

      Also, I give no ground to a man named Creflo Dollar. None.

    • kingstonn

      walnita? tarlaysia? :blink:
      now i don’t feel so bad about my name. :yahoo:

    • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fBYSnvLfZVo Bella Master

      Earlier when someone mentioned Creflo Dollar and Shooting in the same sentence, I assumed we were talking about a RAPPER being shot!

      #truestory

      I’ll go now… :kona:

    • Hershey

      Maybe he didn’t furnish them copies of his W-2 and tax returns, allowing the church to tell him how he should tithe? :confused:

      ^^^true story

      *some christians can’t add and subtrac, Creflo is very helpful with those members

    • Eazy

      was talking to my friend last night about that whole 10% hustle
      __________________________________________
      babbbby! i outrage people every time they bring up the whole “10% tithes” thing. :nono:

    • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0taaxsz2ScQ @NikkeMinxx

      NaijaGal says:

      was talking to my friend last night about that whole 10% hustle
      _______________________________________________________________________

      Care to share?

    • Bedazzled His Razzle

      :lol: at all the name puns!

    • Daisy

      :pray: To the victims family and friends.

      I need to get the tea from the few people I know who attend the church. I am waiting on the motive to be released. So sad.

      Good Afternoon all :waves:

    • LuvMySailor

      Lord Jesus help us. You know Judgement Day is coming with people dont’ even respect the Lord’s house anymore.

      It sounds like this was a domestic issue or a robbery gone bad.

      Either way, I pray for those invvolved.

    • Daisy

      I believe in tithing in both money, time and resources.

    • Bedazzled His Razzle

      was talking to my friend last night about that whole 10% hustle
      ————-
      10% to the church or to the pastor?

    • Bootcampgirl

      Not to start bashing the church but, I never understood how the pastor can live in a nice house, dress fierce and drive a nice ass ride while the members have eviction notices, disconnect notices and going hungry :blink: That is something I will never understand…

    • lovezoe

      So Donald Trump will donate 5 million if Obama releases passport/college records. That’s his announcement.

    • kingstonn

      @ zoe
      seriously? he coulda kept that sht. booooooooooo! :rolleyes:

    • NaijaGal

      @NIKKE I would but I really don’t feel like being bombarded by thumpers and their version of bible verses…I’ll just say it’s a big hustle to me and interesting how it got to be 10% of your gross pay and doing this will bless you buttaraum, I digress again :)

    • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0taaxsz2ScQ @NikkeMinxx

      @KingMe… #21..

      1. When I read on emteeoh that Drake was dating a woman who was a pharmacology major, I had to go and blow up the pic and see if it was you… I was essited for a minute….
      2. Those are Boosie’s wife and daughter…
      3. I thought you said your name was regular but your mom threw a bunch of extra letters in it. LOL.

    • brownskin A.K.A Creamy

      creflo told them to pay they tithes or get shot :coffee:

    • WorkInProgress

      Not to start bashing the church but, I never understood how the pastor can live in a nice house, dress fierce and drive a nice ass ride while the members have eviction notices, disconnect notices and going hungry That is something I will never understand
      ………………
      :applause:

    • Bedazzled His Razzle

      lovezoe says:

      So Donald Trump will donate 5 million if Obama releases passport/college records. That’s his announcement.
      —————–
      so what about the people who are fuggin without? while you have 5mili to just throw out like that you can give it to people who need it. or give it to some schools chit. :no: rathead azz

    • NaijaGal

      LuvMySailor says:

      Lord Jesus help us. You know Judgement Day is coming with people dont’ even respect the Lord’s house anymore.

      It sounds like this was a domestic issue or a robbery gone bad.

      Either way, I pray for those invvolved.
      =======================
      watched a court tv trial years back where dude went into the church to shoot and kill his estranged wife…I believe he thought she was getting it in with the pastor

    • Bootcampgirl

      @Love, so THAT is going to change the course of the election, oh ok…STFD Trump…

    • Eazy

      Not to start bashing the church but, I never understood how the pastor can live in a nice house, dress fierce and drive a nice ass ride while the members have eviction notices, disconnect notices and going hungry That is something I will never understand
      ___________________________________
      one of the biggest hustles in america..churchs

    • http://SandraRose.com Keesh

      A facebook friend of mine is soooo excited about being a member of this church. She drives an hr 1/2 every Sunday morning to church. Then she post pictures of Creflo Dollar leaving in a helicopter..wtih a caption that say “my Pastor rides in style baby”
      This shiat just made me sad….

    • luVn_liFe…

      Bootcampgirl says:
      Not to start bashing the church but, I never understood how the pastor can live in a nice house, dress fierce and drive a nice ass ride while the members have eviction notices, disconnect notices and going hungry That is something I will never understand…

      ~ ~ ~ ~
      Me Either,Its disgusting

      and THATS TRUMPS ANNOUNCEMENT . . . He’s an Ass!

    • NaijaGal

      lovezoe says:

      So Donald Trump will donate 5 million if Obama releases passport/college records. That’s his announcement.
      ==================
      :rofl: I can’t with this nigguh

    • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0taaxsz2ScQ @NikkeMinxx

      @Naija #34, I understand not wanting to air out out here… I lost your email adress but when Im in church and the preacher says we need a big offering, folks gotta take care of the pastor, blah blah blah, soemtimes I put some of my money back in my purse. :shrug:

    • Bootcampgirl

      Bedazzled His Razzle says:

      lovezoe says:

      So Donald Trump will donate 5 million if Obama releases passport/college records. That’s his announcement.
      —————–
      so what about the people who are fuggin without? while you have 5mili to just throw out like that you can give it to people who need it. or give it to some schools chit. rathead azz
      ______
      Could you imagine if all the people who had wealth donated 5 milli, how many mouths that would feed and shelter that it would provide??

    • NaijaGal

      Eazy says:

      one of the biggest hustles in america..churchs
      ====================
      it’s become a business…expensive sports cars, private jets, mansions…but I digress again :)

    • Eazy

      Then she post pictures of Creflo Dollar leaving in a helicopter..wtih a caption that say “my Pastor rides in style baby”
      ________________________________
      and you putting gas in your car for that long drive, paying out yo azz for your “membership”…so yeah you should be proud

    • Bootcampgirl

      @Keesh, my point exactly..

    • Xena68

      Don’t get me started on that I have a pastor in my family and I visited his church one time and he was preaching and told the congregation about stop hating on him and his wife because he drives a BMW and she drives Lexus he said they need to tithe and get in his circle and maybe the blessings would trickle down to them and I was like :huh: the whole time he said more things that had me like whoa too many to state but sometimes I agree it is a hustle to a lot of pastors

    • Eazy

      it’s become a business…expensive sports cars, private jets, mansions…but I digress again
      _________________________________
      you can lead em…. :shrugs:

    • LuvMySailor

      Being I am a Christian I feel compelled to state this since the topic of tithes has come up:

      Tithing comes from the Old Testament. The children of Israel were required to give 10% of what they earned and grew to the Tabernacle and later the Temple.

      In the New Testament, you have the story of the Widow giving her mite to the Temple and Paul gives instructions to give donations to the church. The 10% rule is used today as a guideline.

      Bottom line, the church needs resources to minister. You have people not even memebers coming asking for food and shelter. That stuff does not pay for itself. At my church, we’ve saved people’s homes from forclosures. Let’s not forget also the churchs have to pay electric, water, and other bills.

      I personally pay tithes from what I earned before taxes were taken out and have been blessed for it :yes:

    • Diva

      Eazy says:

      Dammmmm they shooting up churches now?

      ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
      they don’t care!!! I told my church membas bout locking them doors when errbody in worship…you know the back doors but Pastor say no!!! I sit where I can see all entrances and exits…..You just never know nowadays!

    • NaijaGal

      @NikkeMinxx says:

      @Naija #34, I understand not wanting to air out out here… I lost your email adress but when Im in church and the preacher says we need a big offering, folks gotta take care of the pastor, blah blah blah, soemtimes I put some of my money back in my purse
      ======================
      *sniggles* ^5

    • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fBYSnvLfZVo Bella Master

      Keesh says:

      This shiat just made me sad….

      ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

      :lol: that tickled me

    • kingstonn

      @ nikke
      LMAOOO! nooo. that wasn’t me! I’m getting my doctorate in pharmacy, not pharmacology. :lol: but yeah, the spelling of my name sucks balls. i still get mad at my mom when Microsoft Word prompts me to correct the spelling. :lol:

    • brownskin A.K.A Creamy

      I Dont pay tithes with Legal Tender :no: I give bread, fish, nuts, grains etc… makes me feel real good take it right on the storehouse and say here sombody hungry today :coffee:

    • Diva

      LuvMySailor says:

      Being I am a Christian I feel compelled to state this since the topic of tithes has come up:

      Tithing comes from the Old Testament. The children of Israel were required to give 10% of what they earned and grew to the Tabernacle and later the Temple.

      In the New Testament, you have the story of the Widow giving her mite to the Temple and Paul gives instructions to give donations to the church. The 10% rule is used today as a guideline.

      Bottom line, the church needs resources to minister. You have people not even memebers coming asking for food and shelter. That stuff does not pay for itself. At my church, we’ve saved people’s homes from forclosures. Let’s not forget also the churchs have to pay electric, water, and other bills.

      I personally pay tithes from what I earned before taxes were taken out and have been blessed for it

      ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
      This right here is the gospel!!!!!! :applause:

    • Bootcampgirl

      @Naija ^^^ that’s what you were talking about right??

    • Eazy

      says we need a big offering, folks gotta take care of the pastor, blah blah blah, soemtimes I put some of my money back in my purse
      ___________________________
      visited my dads church for fathers day and the pastor said ” I know its hard from some to pay their tithes but due to the new building being over budget, we need to ask members to contribute 15% ” I started laughing in church! the devil is a lie

    • LuvMySailor

      Eazy says:

      Not to start bashing the church but, I never understood how the pastor can live in a nice house, dress fierce and drive a nice ass ride while the members have eviction notices, disconnect notices and going hungry That is something I will never understand

      ——————————————
      While I do belive the Lord blesses His servants, this new materialisitc treand that has taken over the church distresss me as well. We need to look to Jesus and making sure people are mentally, spiritually, and emotionally well and grounded in the Gospel, not flashing Rolexes and driving sports cars.

    • candibfly

      it’s not a huge deal to me, i give what i can, if i don’t have it, i don’t give. but in my particular church i see them actually doing missions and have active programs so i feel good about giving.

      now when i hear stuff like if everyone can give $200 cause it’s the pastor’s anniversary or birthday or something i’m like nawl i’ll pass bruh. or when there’s a big production about money like the way jamal bryant did when he was visiting at my church in houston.

    • Bootcampgirl

      LuvMySailor says:

      Eazy says:

      Not to start bashing the church but, I never understood how the pastor can live in a nice house, dress fierce and drive a nice ass ride while the members have eviction notices, disconnect notices and going hungry That is something I will never understand

      ——————————————
      While I do belive the Lord blesses His servants, this new materialisitc treand that has taken over the church distresss me as well. We need to look to Jesus and making sure people are mentally, spiritually, and emotionally well and grounded in the Gospel, not flashing Rolexes and driving sports cars.
      _________
      :applause:

    • Eazy

      I’ve read the 10% of your earning in the old testament. back then it was not monetary and they didnt have 50/11 bills at their homes to provide for their families either. People should give what they can afford. It supposed to be the offering anyways. Now they want tithes and offerings and “gifts”….

    • WorkInProgress

      My church where i’ve been tithing for years refused to christen/bless my daughter because my fiance and I were not married at the time. It really angered me. flat out refused to bless my baby. I use my % todonate to different causes.

    • Angiegirl

      LuvMySailor says:

      I personally pay tithes from what I earned before taxes were taken out and have been blessed for it
      ________________________

      How do u differentiate ur blessings from tithing vs. your blessings from not tithing?

      #seriousquestion

    • DownBottom

      CANDDDDIIIIII….EAZZZYYY I miss all the fun! :happy: On topic: For shame even with it being Creflo *about that dough* Dolla :tea:

    • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fBYSnvLfZVo Bella Master

      I don’t know all the ins and outs of the bible…

      but I would think, somewhere in there, is a lecture on why man shouldn’t surround himself with all this materialistic shyt…(?)

    • brownskin A.K.A Creamy

      Israel

      Broken down

      Is-isis pagen GOD
      Ra- Amen-ra Pagen GOd
      El-Elhoim- Pagan GOD

      IS-RA-EL :thinking: somebody broke this down for me

    • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0taaxsz2ScQ @NikkeMinxx

      KingMe #56… My bad fab lady, I didnt know there was a difference.. but trust I knew it was close enough to go in and look!

      I give up tithes and when they make special assessments for programs such as the school supply drive, pastor anniversary and dinners and other things I pay the asking price for that, too. I can live with giving up the money but I dont think it fair for him to be standing up there saying we are not giving enough. Some folks aint got it… so should they stay home?

    • Eazy

      Supppppppp Down!! :happy:

    • NaijaGal

      Bootcampgirl says:

      @Naija ^^^ that’s what you were talking about right??
      ======================
      yes ma’am…everybody has their interpretation and religion can get so passionate that the energy is just not there for me today…those that do good with tithes/offerings never have to display it but those other….well no words

    • candibfly

      DB :wave:

      is that dog doing the splits?! :rofl:

    • Angiegirl

      I was visiting a church one time and the pastor said….
      “next Sunday members dont forget your faith offering. we are asking that you tithe 90% isntead of the 10% and believe in and trus God and he will make a way for you”…..or something to that effect.

      But yeah, he wanted them to give 90% and have faith that God would float them along on the 10% they had remaining.

      I feel the Lord gave me common sense before anything else…. :coffee:

    • Eazy

      but I would think, somewhere in there, is a lecture on why man shouldn’t surround himself with all this materialistic shyt
      ______________________________
      it brings an ego…with ego then one starts to view themselves superior not the servants they are supposed to be. cant worship something when you think you should be worshipped

    • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fBYSnvLfZVo Bella Master

      And off top, 20% of your earnings should go to your SAVINGS

      Too much promoting of tithing and not enough promoting of SAVING in our community

    • 3halos

      I thought about moving back to Atlanta a few times… and with stories like this, they always keep me in line…H#LL nah and thank you for subliminal messages to keep my bootay where I am.

    • NaijaGal

      Eazy says:

      I’ve read the 10% of your earning in the old testament. back then it was not monetary and they didnt have 50/11 bills at their homes to provide for their families either. People should give what they can afford. It supposed to be the offering anyways. Now they want tithes and offerings and “gifts”….
      =====================
      a lot of Christians like to dip back into the old testament when it benefits them

    • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fBYSnvLfZVo Bella Master

      Eazy says:

      but I would think, somewhere in there, is a lecture on why man shouldn’t surround himself with all this materialistic shyt
      ______________________________
      it brings an ego…with ego then one starts to view themselves superior not the servants they are supposed to be. cant worship something when you think you should be worshipped
      ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

      “look at all these blessings the lord has given me” CORRECTION “look at all this money yall giving me”

    • candibfly

      i don’t get caught up in the percentages cause shoot i’m already not following the Bible to the letter :lol:

    • Miany

      Bootcampgirl says:

      Not to start bashing the church but, I never understood how the pastor can live in a nice house, dress fierce and drive a nice ass ride while the members have eviction notices, disconnect notices and going hungry That is something I will never understand

      I agree with all of this, especially the not to bash the church part. Those pastors that ride around ‘in style’ with no job outside of the church irk me. I have no problem with a pastor driving a fancy car and having a fancy home as long as that pastor and/or the spouse worked for it. If the entire congregation and the entire community is living in surplus, I have nothing against seeing pastor in a benz but, if half the congregation rides to church in a 1982 church van while pastor pushes the benz it’s obvious he is misusing the tithes.

    • Eazy

      My church where i’ve been tithing for years refused to christen/bless my daughter because my fiance and I were not married at the time
      ______________________________
      and thats when i would have found a new church home. your daughter is not at fault. you pay your tithes but they cant give you a service. naw bruh :nono:

    • LuvMySailor

      Angiegirl says:

      LuvMySailor says:

      I personally pay tithes from what I earned before taxes were taken out and have been blessed for it
      ________________________

      How do u differentiate ur blessings from tithing vs. your blessings from not tithing?

      #seriousquestion
      ——————————–
      Good questions!!

      When I was not tithing, I’m serious I was always broke. I lost my jost back in 2010 and was despondadnt. I almost lost my car. I started getting unemployment and around that time I decided to turn back to Jesus whom I had abandoned. I starting tithing again and praying over the tithe, asking the Lord for specific blessings when I gave my $40 to the church. It started off small. Like I would notice I would have extra money after paying bills. Then people started blessing me with money. Next thing I know,a few months I had a new part time job, AND my old job could hire me back part time. I was able to pay off ALL my credit card debit. I went from crying and blocking bill collectors to being able to make extreme payment arraignemtns with them. I felt that was the Lord’s favor on me!! While I had a job, I was not thinking about paying tithes or God. I became dependant on my job instad of looking to Heaven whwere the source of our supply came from. Then I lost it. I HAD to turn back to God because no one else could help me. And I’m so very glad I did :yes:

    • NaijaGal

      Rocsi got a job as a correspondent for Entertainment Tonight #YouDontCare

    • MZN

      I guess this isn’t the year for ol’ Creflo…

    • Eazy

      a lot of Christians like to dip back into the old testament when it benefits them
      _______________________________
      and this is why everyone should read the Bible themselves and use the common sense they were given to understand mans law has nothing to do with the book

    • Miany

      Bella Master says:

      And off top, 20% of your earnings should go to your SAVINGS

      Too much promoting of tithing and not enough promoting of SAVING in our community

      :applause:

      you aint neva lied.

    • DownBottom

      :rofl: @Candi…this puzzay p-popping on a handstand :shakebutt:

    • Diva

      NaijaGal says:

      Eazy says:

      I’ve read the 10% of your earning in the old testament. back then it was not monetary and they didnt have 50/11 bills at their homes to provide for their families either. People should give what they can afford. It supposed to be the offering anyways. Now they want tithes and offerings and “gifts”….
      =====================
      a lot of Christians like to dip back into the old testament when it benefits them

      ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
      true

    • NaijaGal

      @LUV – you stated you had turned back to Jesus, so could it be that it was because of that and not the money part

    • lovezoe

      Rocsi got a job as a correspondent for Entertainment Tonight #YouDontCare
      ——————-
      Guess it pays to know the host,

    • Milky

      some of these churches even ask for w-2’s or tax returns before u can become a member to make sure ur giving ur 10%. And why does it has to be so many offerings besides the tithes. money for the sick and shut in, the broadcast fund, the shait we just want u to give us ur money fund???

    • candibfly

      i feel you on that savings thing. i save around $600 into various savings accounts and do it direct debit when i get paid so i can’t really feel it. it makes a big difference. u never know when you’ll need emergency funds or an opportunity comes along where you need a few g’s.

    • Eazy

      I decided to turn back to Jesus whom I had abandoned. I starting tithing again and praying over the tithe,
      ________________________________
      maybe it was when you turned back to Jesus things started workin out for you….

    • WorkInProgress

      My church where i’ve been tithing for years refused to christen/bless my daughter because my fiance and I were not married at the time
      ______________________________
      and thats when i would have found a new church home. your daughter is not at fault. you pay your tithes but they cant give you a service. naw bruh.
      —————
      yep i just sat there in tears. Pastor saw my hurt and then proceed to read me scripture verse about parents having to be blessed in order to bless their kids and yadi.yada. I now have a new home church. Shout out to Calvary Chapel

    • Eazy

      @LUV – you stated you had turned back to Jesus, so could it be that it was because of that and not the money part
      _____________________________________
      Just said that!! :coffee:

    • LadieLeo

      :newbie: Finally I’m a part of the “Rose Community” :waves: I’m so over Chump!

    • brownskin A.K.A Creamy

      Tithing was for the preist not u an me, even thou they twist this scripture so much..

      they favorite one is Malachai 3-8 SMH at the preachers for this shame on them for using this to get folks to give up money…… :coffee:

      u will not be cursed if you dont pay tithes :nono: oh well let not do this bible stuff today going to lunch anybody hungry :lol:

    • candibfly

      i remember i visited a church up here and one day i got like a financial statement in the mail from them outlining how much i’d given for the specific year, i was like :blink: but i only went there a few times

    • DownBottom

      Oh damn…ur right @Candi it is a puppy :rofl:

    • kingstonn

      so what happens when you don’t tithe? you can’t go to the church or…? i never understood why my coworker would tell me she can’t pay her water bill till next month cause she has to use that money to tithe.

    • LuvMySailor

      Israel

      Broken down

      Is-isis pagen GOD
      Ra- Amen-ra Pagen GOd
      El-Elhoim- Pagan GOD

      IS-RA-EL somebody broke this down for me
      ——————————————–

      Not true whatsoever. “Israel” was the name given to Jacob in Genesis after he wrestled with angel.
      The breakdown your friend gave you is not linguistically correct. “Israel” is the English spelling of the true Hebrew “Yisra’el”.
      Isis and Amen-Ra were Egyptian false gods.
      The world “El”, much like “Eloah” and “Elohim” are Semetic/Hebrew names for the God of Israel that appear in the BIble

    • DownBottom

      @Milky, my aunt goes to a church here where they “evaluate your finances” before you can join…mofos have built 9 domes w/in a few years…”NOT ON MY WATCH” (iYANLA) :tea:

    • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fBYSnvLfZVo Bella Master

      candibfly says:

      i feel you on that savings thing. i save around $600 into various savings accounts and do it direct debit when i get paid so i can’t really feel it. it makes a big difference. u never know when you’ll need emergency funds or an opportunity comes along where you need a few g’s.
      ~~~~~~~~~~~~

      -Car repairs are a BYTCH and my savings makes it less painful
      -Nice vacations are possible with the right savings plans
      -Savings contribute to a peace of mind…
      -Etc!

      Some of these folks tithing and never been on a plane anywhere

    • NaijaGal

      brownskin A.K.A Creamy says:

      …oh well let not do this bible stuff today going to lunch anybody hungry
      ===================
      bring me back a toasted sammich with smoked turkey, tomatoes, pickets, spinach, honey mustard :)

    • Hershey

      Ya’ll are begging Redeemed to wake up and start posting her tribal flowcharts aren’t you?

      :lol:

    • Eazy

      she can’t pay her water bill till next month cause she has to use that money to tithe.
      _________________________________
      this is sad. :no:

    • NaijaGal

      Bella Master says:

      -Car repairs are a BYTCH and my savings makes it less painful
      -Nice vacations are possible with the right savings plans
      -Savings contribute to a peace of mind…
      -Etc!

      SOME OF THESE FOLKS TITHING AND NEVER BEEN ON A PLANE ANYWHERE
      =========================
      Tabernacle *shakes tambourine*

    • LuvMySailor

      kingstonn says:

      so what happens when you don’t tithe? you can’t go to the church or…? i never understood why my coworker would tell me she can’t pay her water bill till next month cause she has to use that money to tithe.
      ——————————–
      IF you choose not to tithe is between you and the Lord. Each church has difference rules but the 10% is used as the standard. I’m sure you co-worker has faith the Lord will provide and He will for His Glory and her testimony.

      @LUV – you stated you had turned back to Jesus, so could it be that it was because of that and not the money part
      _____________________________________
      Just said that!!
      ———————————
      It could be, but I still give because the church needs the money to help the community and it is also written in the New Testament to donate money to the church.

    • 3halos

      Like I said, common sense ain’t so common and apparently, there are a lot of sheep that like to be led.

    • Milky

      they got ATM’s in the church to make sure if you dont have any cash on u, u can still use the ATM and pay ur tithes and offerings. If i giving money to a church like that, i better she the pastor and his flock in the community fixing it up, clothing/feeding the homeless. Not the pastor riding around in a Maybach with a mansion with a bowling alley in it and a private jet. Makes no since to me at all!

    • Milky

      they got ATM’s in the church to make sure if you dont have any cash on u, u can still use the ATM and pay ur tithes and offerings. If i giving money to a church like that, i better she the pastor and his flock in the community fixing it up, clothing/feeding the homeless. Not the pastor riding around in a Maybach with a mansion with a bowling alley in it and a private jet. Makes no since to me at all!

    • Milky

      they got ATM’s in the church to make sure if you dont have any cash on u, u can still use the ATM and pay ur tithes and offerings. If i giving money to a church like that, i better she the pastor and his flock in the community fixing it up, clothing/feeding the homeless. Not the pastor riding around in a Maybach with a mansion with a bowling alley in it and a private jet. Makes no since to me at all!

    • brownskin A.K.A Creamy

      LuvMySailor says:

      Israel

      Broken down

      Is-isis pagen GOD
      Ra- Amen-ra Pagen GOd
      El-Elhoim- Pagan GOD

      IS-RA-EL somebody broke this down for me
      ——————————————–

      Not true whatsoever. “Israel” was the name given to Jacob in Genesis after he wrestled with angel.
      The breakdown your friend gave you is not linguistically correct. “Israel” is the English spelling of the true Hebrew “Yisra’el”.
      Isis and Amen-Ra were Egyptian false gods.
      The world “El”, much like “Eloah” and “Elohim” are Semetic/Hebrew names for the God of Israel that appear in the BIble

      ________________________________________________________

      I was taught the same thing .. but when people say amen at the end of prayers who exactly are they talking to :shrugs:

      and Also “YAH” apperars inthe bible when he told them to call him by his name YAH…

    • Angiegirl

      NaijaGal says:

      @LUV – you stated you had turned back to Jesus, so could it be that it was because of that and not the money part

      _____________________

      :spank: U get outta my head, cause that was my next question! :lol:

    • Daisy

      @Brown What scripture are you refering to that says tithing is/was only for Priest? #justasking so I can re read it

    • Miany

      she can’t pay her water bill till next month cause she has to use that money to tithe.
      ^^^ that is wrong. Your co-worker was tripping. What happened to cleanliness is next to godliness?? I woulda said a brief prayer of thanks to the lord for providing me with the means to support my household, paid the bill, took a nice long bath and prayed some more (from the comfort of my home..since the church is on some pay to pray mess).

    • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fBYSnvLfZVo Bella Master

      I liked your story @LuvmySailor :yes:

      Even though I’m wayyyy on the opposite end of the spectrum

      Do whatever motivates you to be financially stable and able. But I hope you’re using some of your money for FUN too!

    • LuvMySailor

      Bella Master says:

      -Car repairs are a BYTCH and my savings makes it less painful
      -Nice vacations are possible with the right savings plans
      -Savings contribute to a peace of mind…
      -Etc!

      SOME OF THESE FOLKS TITHING AND NEVER BEEN ON A PLANE ANYWHERE
      =========================
      Tabernacle *shakes tambourine*

      ——————————————-
      That might be some people but I have 10$ to the church and place money in various CDs. My husband and I both tithe from what we make before taxes AND we put aside money in our 1)car repair account 2)Temporary savings 3)Permanent retirement savings 4)Newborn baby account

    • Hershey

      Oprah said before she pays anything, she pays Oprah first, to include tithing. I believe that if you cmoe to the Lord with a honest heart and give $10 of your pay, he will bless you to the point where you CAN tithe 10% versus $10. IMO.

    • Angiegirl

      @LuvMySailor

      I do like your font though. very well spoken and not overbearing or taken too personal when u respond . Good Job! :grill:

    • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fBYSnvLfZVo Bella Master

      Miany says:

      ^^^ that is wrong. Your co-worker was tripping. What happened to cleanliness is next to godliness??
      ~~~~~~~~

      This tickled me :lol:

    • Daisy

      I tithe (money, time and resources in and outside of my church) and I am very well traveled and have common sense some people paint with such broad brushes I tell you. Different strokes for different folks nothing more nothing less :coffee:

    • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fBYSnvLfZVo Bella Master

      Angiegirl says:

      @LuvMySailor

      I do like your font though. very well spoken and not overbearing or taken too personal when u respond . Good Job!
      ~~~~~~

      :cosign:

    • LuvMySailor

      I was taught the same thing .. but when people say amen at the end of prayers who exactly are they talking to

      and Also “YAH” apperars inthe bible when he told them to call him by his name YAH…
      ————————————-

      Amen means “So be it”. You say your prayers and petition the Lord to move on your behalf and then request “So be it” or “let it be so”. They are talking to God.

      The “Yah” comes from YHWH, the sacred name of the God of Israel. It is written like that because anceint Hebrew had no written vowels. It is written in English as YAHWEH / JEHOVAH. It means “I am that I am”. God is ever present and has been since time immortal past and will be in the future. That is what God told MOses to tell the CHildren of Israel when it was time for Him to deliver them from Egypt.
      People today shorten it to “Yah” or “Jah”.

    • luVn_liFe…

      @AngieGirl :chase: My FONT WHITE???

    • NaijaGal

      but if it doesn’t apply to you, then it’s not to you but there are folks who have not treated themselves to such things

      *BET after 3am is the funniest time on tv to me*

    • LuvMySailor

      @LuvMySailor

      I do like your font though. very well spoken and not overbearing or taken too personal when u respond . Good Job!
      ———————
      Thank you :)
      I degrees are in academic religion. It’s only been in the past few years that I decided to take my soul’s salvation seriously.

    • Daisy

      In Jesus name I pray amen

    • Daisy

      There are people who don’t tithe who haven’t been on a plane or who may be considered to lack common sense for whatever reason

    • Miany

      I was taught (in catholic school) that the word Amen translates into ‘I believe’..I don’t know how true that definition is in other religions but, that’s what the catholics taught me.

    • NaijaGal

      True but since that was the subject at hand it wasn’t brought up

    • NaijaGal

      Miany says:

      I was taught (in catholic school) that the word Amen translates into ‘I believe’..I don’t know how true that definition is in other religions but, that’s what the catholics taught me.
      =====================
      and that’s the thing, everybody has their interpretation…whatever interpretation leads you to being a decent human being with treats others with respect works for me

    • Angiegirl

      luVn_liFe… says:

      @AngieGirl My FONT WHITE???

      ___________________

      I was eating lunch and when I came back you were gone :cry:

      But, come here and lemme play in ur golden tresses u sessy thang you! :kiss:

    • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fBYSnvLfZVo Bella Master

      I did say SOME people, not MOST people, so I thought I was painting with a narrow brush stroke.

      I apologize if I offended anyone.

    • http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=qkt7Dx_uK5Y MzDimplez1123

      @ Hershey…I remember the pic! :yahoo:

    • luVn_liFe…

      WUT….YOU GETS A SHOUT OUT,

    • Eazy

      Shout out to WUT! :yahoo:

    • SuthernBelle4

      These new age Christians working my nerves between the side way sayings like, “Favor ain’t fair” and all that other bullshat, I am good. Personally I feel like tithes don’t have to be moNAY, and I don’t have to give it to the church either. I thought tithing was benefitting the community so sometimes I send my tithes to the UNCF :tea: When Jesus come back its going to be a whole bunch of exposing.
      @MzDimpz you mighty foxy in that pic with your, “come hither” look

    • iyonah

      Damn Gina!! :no: :blink:

    • WUT’S A YAKISOBA?

      :eek: (where’s my paper bag….)

    • Diva

      kingstonn says:

      so what happens when you don’t tithe? you can’t go to the church or…? i never understood why my coworker would tell me she can’t pay her water bill till next month cause she has to use that money to tithe.

      ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
      I don’t understand this here though!!!! You can tithe in other ways other than monetary too! Your time…..ministering to others.

    • http://www.landofpure.net Fayla aka IWhipIt..WhipItRealGood:)

      WUT famous nah! :yahoo:

      on the real tho, this is tragic. the church is supposed to be a place of solace. :(

      i for one, faithfully pay my tithes & offerings & am blessed bc of it. ppl attach alot to “what’s being done with the money” & i get that. but it’s really ur intention that counts. WOE unto the man that would rob God. in other words, let that curse fall on the person who does wrong with money that is supposed to help others. i will continue to give freely to my church :yes:

    • http://SandraRose.com Keesh

      I believe in a higher power. I believe we are all put on this earth for a reason even if its just to love and respect one another. However, I do not believe in contributing towards a Benz for somebody thats sleeping with the entire front row (not all pastors, just some of the ones Ive come in contact with)
      Everybody have a good lunch?

    • http://www.landofpure.net Fayla aka IWhipIt..WhipItRealGood:)

      hubby got into it the other day with some ppl about tithing. ppl saying God doesn’t need money. :smack: DUH! that’s a given. GOD doesn’t need ANYthing of course. but i am a living witness that tithing yields blessings like nothing else. & i am not just speaking about finances either :coffee:

      #testimony

    • luVn_liFe…

      @WUT
      Wut Paper Bag<the one that is being sold as a Fashion statement?

    • http://www.gravatar.com/avatar/a19fc5b0a5b0a826c0a201b8ac191b35.png mzwhang90210

      Milky says:

      they got ATM’s in the church to make sure if you dont have any cash on u, u can still use the ATM and pay ur tithes and offerings. If i giving money to a church like that, i better she the pastor and his flock in the community fixing it up, clothing/feeding the homeless. Not the pastor riding around in a Maybach with a mansion with a bowling alley in it and a private jet. Makes no since to me at all!
      ___________________________________
      This was such an on PURNT statement…u hadda post it “thrice” huh?
      :hahaha: j/k bewski…I agree 200%!!

    • http://SandraRose.com Keesh

      I believe, I am blessed simply because I am a good person. Nothing more or nothing less.

    • WUT’S A YAKISOBA?

      Fayla aka IWhipIt..WhipItRealGood:) says:

      WUT famous nah!

      on the real tho, this is tragic. the church is supposed to be a place of solace.

      i for one, faithfully pay my tithes & offerings & am blessed bc of it. ppl attach alot to “what’s being done with the money” & i get that. but it’s really ur intention that counts. WOE unto the man that would rob God. in other words, let that curse fall on the person who does wrong with money that is supposed to help others. i will continue to give freely to my church
      —————-
      As you should. You being faithful to what God has told you and what the person does with it are two seperate things. You do as God instructed you and pray for those who wrongfully use what God has placed in their hands. Your blessing is not affected by what they have done. PERIOD.

    • http://www.landofpure.net Fayla aka IWhipIt..WhipItRealGood:)

      kingstonn says:

      so what happens when you don’t tithe? you can’t go to the church or…? i never understood why my coworker would tell me she can’t pay her water bill till next month cause she has to use that money to tithe

      in my experience. God provides. i’ve never had to not pay a bill to tithe. it’s only 10%
      if 10% gone leave u not paying a bill then u already in a REAL bad way nahmean? :shrug:

    • http://SandraRose.com Keesh

      Fayla aka IWhipIt..WhipItRealGood:) says:

      hubby got into it the other day with some ppl about tithing. ppl saying God doesn’t need money. DUH! that’s a given. GOD doesn’t need ANYthing of course. but i am a living witness that tithing yields blessings like nothing else. & i am not just speaking about finances either

      Lol..Doesnt it seem like Religous conversations get very heated. I almost got beat up one day about saying something about someones Pastor

    • Diva

      NaijaGal says:

      kingstonn says:

      is that his real name? creflo dollar?
      =================
      yes and his wife’s name is Taffy

      ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
      Shake that Laffy Taffy that Laffy Taffy :rofl:

    • http://SandraRose.com Keesh

      if 10% gone leave u not paying a bill then u already in a REAL bad way nahmean

      TRRUUUUUUU (in my 2chaiz voice)

    • WUT’S A YAKISOBA?

      luVn_liFe… says:

      @WUT
      Wut Paper Bag<the one that is being sold as a Fashion statement?
      ——————-
      yep… :think: I wonder if Razzle has some extra Bedazzle to put on it…

    • http://SandraRose.com Keesh

      Diva says:

      NaijaGal says:

      kingstonn says:

      is that his real name? creflo dollar?
      =================
      yes and his wife’s name is Taffy

      ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
      Shake that Laffy Taffy that Laffy Taffy

      :hahaha: I cant with you today Diva! Let me go digest this byrd I just choked down

    • http://www.landofpure.net Fayla aka IWhipIt..WhipItRealGood:)

      dont mistake what i’m saying to mean that tithing is THE ONLY way one can be blessed. that would just be silly no? :coffee:

    • Donna del Gatto

      I have such mixed feelings about tithing…still seeking for a real understanding, because honestly…I refuse to give money to the BUSINESS called church…other charities and volunteer opportunities that come along, I will give when I feel it inside to do so…but many folks disagree with my views on this… :shrugs:

    • luVn_liFe…

      @WUT
      :rofl: !!!!!!
      guuHl you is Special!!!!!!!!!

    • candibfly

      10% of what, cause if it’s my annual salary then i ain’t gon be able to do it man :no: i give what i can give, i budget for it but it ain’t nowhere near 10% :( i got student loans yo :crying:

    • Diva

      Keesh says:

      Diva says:

      NaijaGal says:

      kingstonn says:

      is that his real name? creflo dollar?
      =================
      yes and his wife’s name is Taffy

      ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
      Shake that Laffy Taffy that Laffy Taffy

      I cant with you today Diva! Let me go digest this byrd I just choked down

      ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
      You had some yard bird huh, Keesh? :rofl: you on say bird and choke in the same sentence….whew lawd……

    • Eazy

      Until one reads for themselves or find the relationship with God for themselves..you will always fall for what others interpret the Bible to say. Everybody should take time and read.!!

    • luVn_liFe…

      I will give when I feel it inside to do so…but many folks disagree with my views on this <– Agree w/This.
      I donate time and Money to charities,that i agree with and see are making a diffrence and HeLping where is needed.

    • Diva

      candibfly says:

      10% of what, cause if it’s my annual salary then i ain’t gon be able to do it man i give what i can give, i budget for it but it ain’t nowhere near 10% i got student loans yo

      ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

      give what you can, GOD knows your heart and your intentions….

    • candibfly

      you give money to charities who do some of the same things as churches (missionary work, helping the homeless, etc) :shrugs: so i prefer to give to the church that also fulfills my spirit. charities can mismanage funds also.

    • SuthernBelle4

      I just find it problematic that churches be wanting people to give their last and some people do it but you got these mega churches who refuse to help feed families or pay rent- naw cuz. The Black church use to be the cornerstone of the Black community but since people have gotten greedy (not all) its not considered a joke. I’m all for helping and supporting the church but if you are not following what God has asked for you to do, I’m God. Your congregation shouldn’t be robbing Peter to pay Paul just so they can tithe :tea:

    • SuthernBelle4

      @candi you right, I just hate that certain churches make people feel obligated: Creflo Dollar

    • KayCeiSoul

      These new age Christians working my nerves between the side way sayings like, “Favor ain’t fair” and all that other bullshat…….
      Personally I feel like tithes don’t have to be moNAY…….

      *************************************
      I could hug you for this. :cosign:
      And they don’t have to be money, IMO.
      Originally in the Old Testament, the tithes were not money – they were agricultural, they were animal skins, clothing, incense, etc. And I understand that money did not exist then, however, I feel it is still about what you can give to help keep the church and community going.

      God ain’t impressed with no money. :rolleyes:
      We can take care of our communities and churches by being givers of time, food, and other valuable resources. People drop their lil’ change in the tithe basket and swear they’ve done their “greater good” for all in existence. No. These prosperity preachers prey on your hard earned dollars to buy things like planes, trains, automobiles and mansions – which makes NO sense, considering Jesus didn’t even ride a camel. He stayed walking. :rolleyes:

      I have a problem with it, and I don’t care who don’t like it.

      Now every church is NOT the same, but finding a good church with a pastor that is not relying on a single paycheck from the church for luxury items is like finding a needle in a haystack.

      Then folks want to sit back and say, “Well I gave in God’s name so He’ll make sure it goes for good.” God also GAVE you five senses, and wants us to be good stewards over our earnings. Do for people with money, time, effort and do it out of love. That’s tithing as well.

      I know a lady right TODAY who tithes and gives offerings down to her last quarter at times. Stays at church, at every service, but lives like a pack rat and always struggling because she gave her last dime to “Paaaasssstor”, but if a neighbor asked her for a can of corn she’d look at him like he was the spawn of satan.

      I totally understand what people mean when they say religion is a BUSINESS.

    • http://www.landofpure.net Fayla aka IWhipIt..WhipItRealGood:)

      Candi i just tithe when i get paid :shrug:

      my mother tithes her gross pay & keeps all her tax refund. i tithe net pay & tithe my refund…

      but yeah to each their own…

    • candibfly

      @suthern i feel u. i don’t like when they make a huge production of giving. or ask u to give a certain amount. “if we can just get 5 more people to give $100″ (and this goes on for like 45 min) :no:

    • http://www.landofpure.net Fayla aka IWhipIt..WhipItRealGood:)

      candibfly says:

      you give money to charities who do some of the same things as churches (missionary work, helping the homeless, etc) so i prefer to give to the church that also fulfills my spirit. charities can mismanage funds also.

      :preach:

      also, time tithing is GREAT, however it’s not gonna keep the lights on at the church, ijs :kona:

    • http://sandrarose.com Sandra Rose

      What’s wrong with your black ministers in Atlanta? :shrug:

    • Angiegirl

      :newpost: On Tip, heyul…I’ll take it with all this bad news today :shrugs:

    • WUT’S A YAKISOBA?

      Fayla aka IWhipIt..WhipItRealGood:) says:

      kingstonn says:

      so what happens when you don’t tithe? you can’t go to the church or…? i never understood why my coworker would tell me she can’t pay her water bill till next month cause she has to use that money to tithe

      in my experience. God provides. i’ve never had to not pay a bill to tithe. it’s only 10%
      if 10% gone leave u not paying a bill then u already in a REAL bad way nahmean?
      ———————-
      Kingston… tithing is a test of faith.

      10Bring the whole tithe into the storehouse, that there may be food in my house. Test me in this,” says the Lord Almighty, “and see if I will not throw open the floodgates of heaven and pour out so much blessing that you will not have room enough for it.

    • SamIAMnotHAM

      Hello :hi:
      Are yall :offtopic: yet?

    • SuthernBelle4

      @KayCei ms. Lady I wish I could give you a standing ovation for this. You read my mind and said it so eloquently and beautifully, girl you did ‘dat! :applause:

    • P.S. I Love You

      I can certainly appreciate all of the different views on tithing. I was never exposed/had to deal with some of the aforementioned situations .

      BTW, :newbie:

    • Diva

      Wut…why you got that paper bag on yo head?

    • Miany

      Keesh says:

      I believe, I am blessed simply because I am a good person. Nothing more or nothing less.

      ^^I agree with this sentiment. I’m not against tithing. I grew up tithing but, I am against creating a hostile environment for those who do not tithe. Come as you are means just that. If you’re broke – still come. I would never bash the church members who tithe. I only bash the pastors who steal the funds. I personally tithe in my own way because I do not have a home church. I am a believer who makes sandwiches for the homeless (my hard earned money, not foodstamnps) and hands em out downtown. I like to see where my money goes and I doubt the lord frowns on me for that.

    • prynsexxx

      candibfly says:

      @suthern i feel u. i don’t like when they make a huge production of giving. or ask u to give a certain amount. “if we can just get 5 more people to give $100? (and this goes on for like 45 min)
      ______________________________

      If the offering plate goes around more than ONCE during service, that’s stealing. Da hell is a “Love” offering AFTER the initial collection has been taken up?

    • Diva

      :wave: Hey Sam….that gravi is HILARIOUS!

    • Diva

      If the offering plate goes around more than ONCE during service, that’s stealing. Da hell is a “Love” offering AFTER the initial collection has been taken up?

      ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
      Definitely the BAPTIST CHUCH!

    • KayCeiSoul

      Sandra Rose says:

      What’s wrong with your black ministers in Atlanta?

      **************************

      They are greedy and lustful.
      They think they’re getting over, that they’ll be saved by grace.
      But what they need to understand is that if they were REALLY called into the ministry and are functioning like so, they will be held at a higher standard during judgement than anyone else – for leading the people who were seeking God in spirit and truth to hell from their deceit. :coffee:

    • KayCeiSoul

      prynsexxx says:

      candibfly says:

      @suthern i feel u. i don’t like when they make a huge production of giving. or ask u to give a certain amount. “if we can just get 5 more people to give $100? (and this goes on for like 45 min)
      ______________________________

      If the offering plate goes around more than ONCE during service, that’s stealing. Da hell is a “Love” offering AFTER the initial collection has been taken up?

      ********************************

      And when these “designer lines” came into existence….y’all know what I’m talm’bout – the $1000 line, the $500 dollar line…and the pastors just subliminally make the people who can’t give in those lines feel low, while the stupid stand there haughtily, holding up their envelope to pay one of the car or jet notes for “PAAAAAASTOR”.

      GTHOH.

      If I could stand myself in a $1000 like the rest of what I see, with those caked-on faces and Midnight Velvet suits, I’d be helping a kid through college, or feeding a few families a month, or buying clothes for children who are in need. You wouldn’t catch me burning up my corns standing in no “love offering” line.

      Thank you, God bless you, goodnight.

    • prynsexxx

      Diva says:

      Definitely the BAPTIST CHUCH!
      _____________________

      Non-denominational FORMERLY from Apostolic faith…. :blink:

      :woohoo: <—– folks after the "profit-sizing" and "anointing oil"

      #iwasvisiting :tea:

    • free

      Sandra Rose says: What’s wrong with your black ministers in Atlanta?

      *****************************

      money, hoes, and clothes is all they knows :coffee:

    • http://sandrarose.com Sandra Rose

      If the offering plate goes around more than ONCE during service, that’s stealing. Da hell is a “Love” offering AFTER the initial collection has been taken up?

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      Definitely the BAPTIST CHUCH!
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      :rofl:

    • MSVALLDAY

      candibfly says:

      i remember i visited a church up here and one day i got like a financial statement in the mail from them outlining how much i’d given for the specific year, i was like but i only went there a few times
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      If they are a non profit organization which most churches are, this is what they are required to do by law. They are supposed to track who is giving what. They have to store and keep offering envelopes and other records for a certain amount of years. They send you that statment because technically you’ve made a donation to a charitable organization and you can use that when you file your taxes. Just like giving to united way, salvation army etc. That is acutal right and in order on their part.

    • AlluringlySweet

      So so sad.

    • sassyshe

      Really shopping after a murder :wtf:

    • Candi Apple

      :( to say this an definitely not out of malice. What if that man found out he was touching boys? Just a thought.

    • pointhimout

      lovers?

    • http://talkingwithtami.com/blog talkingwithtami

      Why was this dude shopping at Macy’s when a swat team is looking for you? It’s NOT like he was going to get to wear his new outfit somewhere! I tell you! Let me go lay down somewhere! #Fail :tea: