Throwback Photo: Rihanna at 17

Pop singer Rihanna is still grieving the loss of her beloved Grandmother Dolly, who passed away in June following a protracted bout with cancer. Also taking Dolly’s death hard is Rihanna’s grandfather Bravo, who still resides in the Brooklyn apartment he once shared with Dolly.

Rihanna was spotted visiting her grandfather Bravo in his Brooklyn apartment on Monday. She wore a TRILL t-shirt, camouflage cargo pants and combat boots.

Earlier today, Rihanna tweeted an old photo of herself posing with her “Grangran Dolly” at age 17 before the nose job that transformed her into an international beauty.

After leaving her granddad’s apartment, Rihanna was spotted entering her hotel carrying a handful of old photos of “Gran Gran Dolly” that she collected during her visit with Bravo. Poor RiRi.

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    116 Responses to “Throwback Photo: Rihanna at 17”

    1. 1
      Bad Influence says:

      OH SANDY :lol:

    2. 2
      missmiami says:

      Yep they had the same nose

    3. 3
      Ty says:

      Earlier today, Rihanna tweeted an old photo of herself posing with her “Grangran Dolly” at age 17 before the nose job that transformed her into an international beauty.
      ____________
      :dead:

      :wave: All

    4. 4
      Keesh says:

      Nose job hay..
      Whats up Miami? How are you feeling

    5. 5
      FTP_L@kEz*.* says:

      :lol: riri no love!

    6. 6
      yallcrazy says:

      MsMiami, shake something! :rofl:

    7. 7
      VDot says:

      There goes my baby! <- Sandy in her Ursher voice :whistle:

    8. 8
      Keesh says:

      I wonder why she hasnt had her breast and butt done….. :thinking:

    9. 9
      yallcrazy says:

      :waves: Hey Ty!

    10. 10
      Dymond says:

      cute

      heyyyy Missmiami I asked about u earlier

      girl tell us all about it :popcorn: you happy with it :buttshake:

    11. 11
      YSoSrs says:

      “international beauty”? Hrm. She looked better back then. Bangs are RihRih’s best friend. :coffee:

    12. 12
      yallcrazy says:

      Vdot, you wanna box? :fistbump:

      :rofl:

    13. 13
      Aryanna says:

      She actually looked better when she was 17, IMO.

      All this surgery has everybody looking the same..

    14. 14
      Gigi26 says:

      Sounds like a lot of self hate there Sandy :no:

      Anywhoo, Rih..I have nothing :lol:

    15. 15
      Razzle Dazzle Boo says:

      her nose looks the same to me…of course she had a little more weight on her when she was younger too :shrug:

    16. 16
      candibfly says:

      where brooklyn at?! where brooklyn at?!

      that’s all i got :shrugs:

    17. 17
      NaijaGal says:

      SOS Rhianna…I see her pa pa showing his gams, that’s where she gets it from *give’em a lil leg n take it back*

    18. 18
      belindammp says:

      she was cute with the wide nose

    19. 19
    20. 20
      YSoSrs says:

      @KEESH

      I don’t think Rih needs her tits or ass done myself. Some people aren’t built to have alladat.

    21. 21
      Dymond says:

      why did I scroll up to see them gams…

      :dead: @ Naija

    22. 22
      pointhimout says:

      slow news day, I understand.

    23. 23
      yallcrazy says:

      :lol: Twin

    24. 24
      Razzle Dazzle Boo says:

      I see her pa pa showing his gams, that’s where she gets it from *give’em a lil leg n take it back*

      :lol:

    25. 25
      candibfly says:

      not feeling this short cut on rih, at least not the bangs, look like they were cut in the dark.

    26. 26
      Dymond says:

      yes those bangs are terrible

    27. 27
      yallcrazy says:

      I like the old bangs, but this new do :no:
      When you get a short cute cut, you gotta keep it up. She just said fukc it I guess :shrug:

    28. 28

      Rih was wearing wigs at 17???? :blink:

      HEY TY!

    29. 29

      Razzle :hug:

      & anybody else that dont thank rih-rih got that schnozzle shaved down, please kindly review the “pon the replay” video at ur leisure. aint no denying that :pigsfly:

    30. 30
      mzwhang90210 says:

      Rhi favors her grand dad to me.

      Iono about a nose job tho..her nose kinda looks the same to me.

      S/N— I AM so tired of these yt women with these bloated lips. Who the flickety fluck told them that chit is cute???

      YT folks made fun of Black folks for years for our full lips…now they’re injecting theirs. Bassids!

    31. 31
      Razzle Dazzle Boo says:

      :lol: @ Fay I just got through :pc: pics of that gal and it all varies from when she is heavy and when she is small

    32. 32
      mzwhang90210 says:

      candibfly says:

      not feeling this short cut on rih, at least not the bangs, look like they were cut in the dark.
      _______________________
      In the dark tho Candi? With a boyscout knife huh?
      :hahaha:

    33. 33

      I can def see the nose job! Her bridge is thinner than before she opt to keep her same nostrils I suppose

    34. 34
      yallcrazy says:

      *hands MzWhang a fortune cookie to calm her down* :kona:

    35. 35

      TY! :yahoo:

      fck this day taking longer than normal tho, SHAT!

      i done already drank my 64 oz a wata, fck else i’m posed to do & chit?? :rollseyes:

    36. 36
      candibfly says:

      personally don’t have a problem with her nose job, i don’t think she went overboard with it like some folks who shall remain nameless.

    37. 37
      Keesh says:

      @YSO…I dont think she needs it done either. Some people in the entertainment biz act like theres a lot of pressure on women to change their bodies and all

    38. 38
      YSoSrs says:

      @FAYLA

      Piss? :shrugs:

    39. 39
      Razzle Dazzle Boo says:

      mzwhang90210 says:

      Rhi favors her grand dad to me.

      Iono about a nose job tho..her nose kinda looks the same to me.

      S/N— I AM so tired of these yt women with these bloated lips. Who the flickety fluck told them that chit is cute???

      YT folks made fun of Black folks for years for our full lips…now they’re injecting theirs. Bassids!
      —————
      :hahaha: TRUUUE!! <–in my ratchetest two chainz voice

      BTW is he the same guy that used to play on iCarly on Nickelodeon that acted like a straight coon? :blink: I mean they do look and sound alike…

    40. 40
      mzwhang90210 says:

      yallcrazy says:

      *hands MzWhang a fortune cookie to calm her down*
      ________________________________
      :hahaha:

      *Pouring Uncle Ben’s rice on the floor* …kneel heffa!
      P.S. It’s instant rice so u won’t have to kneel that long!

    41. 41
      candibfly says:

      or maybe they used rusty scissors mzwhang :lol:

      anyway i’m out this bytch :peace:

    42. 42

      Razzle, betcha .99 she had a nose job! :coffee:

    43. 43
      MsDivaRo says:

      I’m partial to wide noses cause I gots one!!

    44. 44
      yallcrazy says:

      :stop: Fay ION wantchew to die :wail:

      :rofl:

      ======================
      Twin, you talmbout nikki, or the braxtons :popcorn:

    45. 45

      now, to her credit she didnt get a YT nose, she just shaved that sukka down. but it was wider, & snoutish :yes:

    46. 46
      Razzle Dazzle Boo says:

      candibfly says:

      personally don’t have a problem with her nose job, i don’t think she went overboard with it like some folks who shall remain nameless.
      ————-
      Who Michael Jackson? Toya Jackson? gwone and say it… :tea:

      ;)

    47. 47
      yallcrazy says:

      UMMM :warning: Sandra ROSE

      I just go an email stating that my password has been reset!

      I DIDN’T DO IT!!!!!

    48. 48
      NaijaGal says:

      a teacher in Minnesota who students say segregated black and special needs students…watch it on CNN

    49. 49
      MsDivaRo says:

      Razzle Dazzle Boo says:

      mzwhang90210 says:

      Rhi favors her grand dad to me.

      Iono about a nose job tho..her nose kinda looks the same to me.

      S/N— I AM so tired of these yt women with these bloated lips. Who the flickety fluck told them that chit is cute???
      ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
      Lisa Rhinna lips look like a loose p _ _ _y!

    50. 50
      Razzle Dazzle Boo says:

      MsDivaRo says:

      I’m partial to wide noses cause I gots one!!
      ——
      :fistbump: Me too!

    51. 51

      YSoSrs says:

      @FAYLA

      Piss? :shrugs:

      :hahaha: u gahd damb right! THAT’s y i’m drankin it ALL at work. using THEY terrlit tissha! :grill:

      #thrifty
      #frugal
      #yuseminewhenicanusetheirs

    52. 52
      MSVALLDAY says:

      She looked so pretty when she was 17. With all the money she has why are her grandparents living in that apartment in Brooklyn?

    53. 53
      yallcrazy says:

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    54. 54
      NaijaGal says:

      A sixth grade teacher at a St. Paul public school is allegedly a raging racist.

      According to a WCCO report, Tim Olmsted, a teacher at the Heights Community School on St. Paul’s East Side, told the five black students in his class that they are “fat, black, and stupid” and made them sit in the back of the classroom.

      Olmsted is currently on paid leave

    55. 55

      Razzle, betcha .99 she had a nose job!
      ________________________
      :lol:

      :lol: @ Diva
      I think her lips look like an enlarged KLIT

    56. 56
      MsDivaRo says:

      Fayla aka IWhipIt..WhipItRealGood:) says:

      YSoSrs says:

      @FAYLA

      Piss?

      u gahd damb right! THAT’s y i’m drankin it ALL at work. using THEY terrlit tissha!

      #thrifty
      #frugal
      #yuseminewhenicanusetheirs

      ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
      :dead:

    57. 57

      YALL :rofl: yo ass gone get in on this H2O challenge foe it’s all ova wit! :yes:

    58. 58
      Lucky704 says:

      Hello…ALL

      Besides the nose job, I feel her pain. I lost my grandfather on May 7th and my brother on May 10th of this year. That is a pain that takes a lifetime to heal sometimes.

    59. 59
      MsDivaRo says:

      Choco aka Hippie says:

      Razzle, betcha .99 she had a nose job!
      ________________________

      @ Diva
      I think her lips look like an enlarged KLIT

      ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
      :dead:

    60. 60
      mzwhang90210 says:

      MSVALLDAY says:

      She looked so pretty when she was 17. With all the money she has why are her grandparents living in that apartment in Brooklyn
      _________________
      :waves: MsValley
      I thought the same thing at first but then I thought…maybe they didn’t want to move. You know some older folks don’t want to leave their residences no matter what. Memories & all.

    61. 61
      MsDivaRo says:

      :hug: Lucky…so sorry ma!!!!

    62. 62
      Razzle Dazzle Boo says:

      MsDivaRo says:

      Choco aka Hippie says:

      Razzle, betcha .99 she had a nose job!
      ________________________

      @ Diva
      I think her lips look like an enlarged KLIT

      ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
      :tape:

    63. 63
      MsDivaRo says:

      yallcrazy says:

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    64. 64
      Ty says:

      Razzle Dazzle Boo says:

      candibfly says:

      personally don’t have a problem with her nose job, i don’t think she went overboard with it like some folks who shall remain nameless.
      ————-
      Who Michael Jackson? Toya Jackson? gwone and say it
      _____________
      Buy one get 5+ free :rofl: The parents and the kids were nipped and tucked :coffee:

    65. 65
      mzwhang90210 says:

      :hahaha: @ Diva & Choc
      Gives a whole new meaning to the term “p—y lips”

      :hahaha:

    66. 66
      NaijaGal says:

      candibfly says:

      personally don’t have a problem with her nose job, i don’t think she went overboard with it like some folks who shall remain nameless.
      ==================
      Tamar, Nikki Minaj, NeNe perhaps???

    67. 67
      yallcrazy says:

      :thinking: Fay, I am dealing with an infiltration here :huh:

    68. 68
      Razzle Dazzle Boo says:

      yallcrazy says:

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    69. 69
      MsDivaRo says:

      mzwhang90210 says:

      @ Diva & Choc
      Gives a whole new meaning to the term “p—y lips”

      ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
      :lol: IKR

    70. 70
      mzwhang90210 says:

      Lucky704 says:

      Hello…ALL

      Besides the nose job, I feel her pain. I lost my grandfather on May 7th and my brother on May 10th of this year. That is a pain that takes a lifetime to heal sometimes.
      ___________________________
      :hug: Stay strong

    71. 71
      MsOnederful says:

      I was reading the post and thought oh she’s going to spare Rih Rih the Grease she usually throws as she spared Chris Brown earlier. Low & Behold. The last sentence

      “Rihanna tweeted an old photo of herself posing with her “Grangran Dolly” at age 17 before the nose job that transformed her into an international beauty.”

      WELP thought to soon. Gotta LOVE Auntie :rofl:

      P.S. She did get a tasteful noise job though. Like Bey’s. I would say.

    72. 72
      MsDivaRo says:

      yallcrazy says:

      Fay, I am dealing with an infiltration here

      ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
      who fuggin wit you Yallcrazy?

    73. 73
      Razzle Dazzle Boo says:

      Buy one get 5+ free The parents and the kids were nipped and tucked
      ——–
      Tamar, Nikki Minaj, NeNe perhaps???
      ~~~~~~~~~~~~
      :lol: i like NeNe’s nose though :blink:

    74. 74
      yallcrazy says:

      Razzle, they just jealous! :lol:

      ======================
      Aight, yall better ask questions if my font don’t look like my font :rofl:

    75. 75
      yallcrazy says:

      MsDivaRo says:

      yallcrazy says:

      Fay, I am dealing with an infiltration here

      ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
      who fuggin wit you Yallcrazy?
      :shrug:
      I just rec’d an email from sr . com stating that I’d requested a password change.

      :thinking: Gots to be a youngster with time on their hands :tea:

    76. 76
      Ty says:

      @ Naija Tamar definitely needs to leave her face alone. That shyt is not cute :nono:

      @ Yall.. :wtf:

    77. 77
      Gigi26 says:

      With all the money she has why are her grandparents living in that apartment in Brooklyn?
      ———————————————–
      With her folk being West Indian, they probably wanted to stay there, they probably live in an West Indian neighborhood. Its more comfort of knowing your surroundings and the commonalities of the people in the same area. :yes:

    78. 78
      Razzle Dazzle Boo says:

      :cya: y’all

    79. 79
      yallcrazy says:

      MsDiva & Razzle

      I’ve already let Auntie know :pc: how its been around here :lol:

    80. 80
      NaijaGal says:

      Razzle Dazzle Boo says:

      Buy one get 5+ free The parents and the kids were nipped and tucked
      ——–
      Tamar, Nikki Minaj, NeNe perhaps???
      ~~~~~~~~~~~~
      i like NeNe’s nose though
      =======================
      it don’t look lik a flacid penis to you? no, ok…but I adore NeNe btw

    81. 81

      yallcrazy says:

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    82. 82
      Keesh says:

      MsDivaRo says:

      I’m partial to wide noses cause I gots one!!

      Yeah I gots a wide nose too….So I really cant tell the difference

    83. 83
      MsDivaRo says:

      yallcrazy says:

      MsDivaRo says:

      yallcrazy says:

      Fay, I am dealing with an infiltration here

      ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
      who fuggin wit you Yallcrazy?

      I just rec’d an email from sr . com stating that I’d requested a password change.

      Gots to be a youngster with time on their hands

      ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
      That chit ain’t cool though!!!! :cya: Razzle

    84. 84
      yallcrazy says:

      Ty, see 53

      :nino:

      Is my gravi still Whitney?

    85. 85
      Lucky704 says:

      MsDivaRo and mzwhang90210
      ___________________________
      :)

      Thanks Roses..

    86. 86
      VDot says:

      yallcrazy says:

      Vdot, you wanna box? :fistbump:

      ___________________________________________

      Sure. But :warning: I don’t :duel: fair ;)

    87. 87
      NaijaGal says:

      Ty says:

      @ Naija Tamar definitely needs to leave her face alone. That shyt is not cute
      =============
      she gone end up like Michael…went from a brown skinned, full nosed, full lipped brotha to a pale white girl with no nose and no lips :(

    88. 88
      yallcrazy says:

      :nite: Razzle

    89. 89
      MsDivaRo says:

      Keesh says:

      MsDivaRo says:

      I’m partial to wide noses cause I gots one!!

      Yeah I gots a wide nose too….So I really cant tell the difference

      ~~~~~~~~~~~~~
      :cosign:

    90. 90

      MsOnederful says:

      P.S. She did get a tasteful noise job though. Like Bey’s. I would say.

      precisely! prolly went to the same doc :coffee:

    91. 91
      yallcrazy says:

      VDot says:

      yallcrazy says:

      Vdot, you wanna box? :fistbump:

      ___________________________________________

      Sure. But :warning: I don’t :duel: fair ;)
      ==================
      *pushes Vdot to the side* Yew took too long!
      I got drama yo! #wewillmeetagane :D

    92. 92
      Keesh says:

      With all the money she has why are her grandparents living in that apartment in Brooklyn?
      ———————————————–
      With her folk being West Indian, they probably wanted to stay there, they probably live in an West Indian neighborhood. Its more comfort of knowing your surroundings and the commonalities of the people in the same area.

      :cosign:
      Plus its hard to get older people to change their surroundings

    93. 93
      yallcrazy says:

      NaijaGal says:

      Ty says:

      @ Naija Tamar definitely needs to leave her face alone. That shyt is not cute
      =============
      she gone end up like Michael…went from a brown skinned, full nosed, full lipped brotha to a pale white girl with no nose and no lips :(

      Did you say lick or suck on the first nose?! :rofl: #cantremember! :dead:
      And see 53

    94. 94
      MsDivaRo says:

      :hug: Tyyyyyyyyyyy

    95. 95
      Ty says:

      she gone end up like Michael…went from a brown skinned, full nosed, full lipped brotha to a pale white girl with no nose and no lips
      ____________
      :haha:

      @ Yall…yes your gravi’s the same

      @ Fay…Im going to get my knees done, I dont like being 5’1 :rofl:

    96. 96
      yallcrazy says:

      Fayla aka IWhipIt..WhipItRealGood:) says:

      yallcrazy says:

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      They just jealous :lol:
      They wanna be my fonter :lol: (James Evans Heh Heh Heh laugh)

    97. 97
      MsDivaRo says:

      @yall..yo gravy got one tooth!!! :hahaha: I kid, I kid!!!

    98. 98
      BrownSuggaBabe says:

      :offtopic: Speaking of bangs have u seen Keyshia Cole’s new do..She cut all her hair off too..

    99. 99
      NaijaGal says:

      YALLCRAY *lick* :P

      as for #53, got my 12 gauge ready *even though ion know how to use it*

      hey you hating ass lurker
      :whistle:
      They Told Him Don’t You Ever Come Around Here
      Don’t Wanna See Your Face, You Better Disappear
      The Fire’s In Their Eyes And Their Words Are Really Clear
      So Beat It, Just Beat It

      #JetsAndSharksGameProper

    100. 100
      sassyshe says:

      With all the money she has why are her grandparents living in that apartment in Brooklyn?
      ———————————————–
      With her folk being West Indian, they probably wanted to stay there, they probably live in an West Indian neighborhood. Its more comfort of knowing your surroundings and the commonalities of the people in the same area.

      Plus its hard to get older people to change their surroundings
      ———————————————————————-
      :cosign: For the most part West Indian parents and grandparents understand that their child’s success is their own and they are not entitled to it. Most of them are happy just being comfortable as they never want their child/grandchild to take on more than they should as they always remember what it took to get there. Well the maternal side at least

    101. 101
      marquez269 says:

      So oprah and Tyler perry collabing for the own network I wonder how that will go

    102. 102
      Ty says:

      Hey Diva cute gravi hun :hug:

    103. 103
      MsDivaRo says:

      NaijaGal says:

      YALLCRAY *lick*

      as for #53, got my 12 gauge ready *even though ion know how to use it*

      ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
      *takes 12 gauge from Naija* my daddy taught me how to shoot that 12 gauge :yes: I’m a good shot too!!!!

    104. 104
      NaijaGal says:

      yallcrazy says:

      They wanna be my fonter (James Evans Heh Heh Heh laugh)
      ===============
      :whistle:
      I Said You Wanna Be my fonter
      You Got To Be my fonter
      I Said You Wanna Be my fonter
      You Got To Be my fonter

      *shoutout to MJ RIP*

    105. 105

      marquez269 says:

      So oprah and Tyler perry collabing for the own network I wonder how that will go

      oh lawd :kona:

    106. 106
      yallcrazy says:

      Knees done :ghost:

    107. 107
      MsDivaRo says:

      Ty says:

      Hey Diva cute gravi hun
      ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
      thanks Ty!!!

    108. 108
      yallcrazy says:

      Naija & MsDiva :dead:

      :rofl:

    109. 109
      MsDivaRo says:

      marquez269 says:

      So oprah and Tyler perry collabing for the own network I wonder how that will go

      ~~~~~~~~~~~~
      So you ain’t tryna font hello today huh? I said hi to you several flights down :cuss:

    110. 110
      Ty says:

      marquez269 says:

      So oprah and Tyler perry collabing for the own network I wonder how that will go
      ________________
      That might work :think: The Network needs to be seasoned a bit :coffee: Not sure how O’s other fanbase will adjust though

    111. 111

      I don’t see a nose job :blink: her nose still fat :shrugs:

    112. 112
      NaijaGal says:

      :newpost: is up on the Oprah/Tyler fiasco

    113. 113
      missmiami says:

      @ keesh sorry so laye hunn. I feel like crap. This has been a rough recovery. TodayI woke up throwing up all day :(

    114. 114
      missmiami says:

      Oh yeah i am in day 10. I have good days and bad. Today is one of the worst. But on a lighter note the hubby is loving the :buttshake:

    115. 115
      SuthernBelle4 says:

      I know its late but Rhi Rhi ain’t get no nose job, but her makeup artists do a helluva job contouring. I have seen recent pics of her without makeup and let’s just say she still got that nose that “sats” across her face aka bell pepper nose. :tea:

    116. 116
      MSVALLDAY says:

      60 mzwhang90210 says:

      MSVALLDAY says:

      She looked so pretty when she was 17. With all the money she has why are her grandparents living in that apartment in Brooklyn
      _________________
      MsValley
      I thought the same thing at first but then I thought…maybe they didn’t want to move. You know some older folks don’t want to leave their residences no matter what. Memories & all.
      ___________________________________________________________________

      True cause it took an act of God to move my nana.

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