In Case You Missed It: Real Housewives of Atlanta, Episode 2

Sandra Rose November 11, 2013

Joyce and Kandi Burruss

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luVn_liFe…

ION watch it, BBl
sassyshe

Miss joyce is a piece of work, she basically told Kandi only person getting your money over me is Riley, its cool to have live in dyck but get off the marriage thing my position and possessions will not be threatened
free

you bought a house in buckhead but need apollo to do the renovations?
rwilliams4782

mama Joyce need to get her some good ole .. Kenya didn’t let the swelling go down with those fillers. Can’t deal with Porsha’s outburst when clearly no one was talking to her at the table.. we all know you’re going through a divorce.. She will be riding off the coat tail of that divorce for about 2 seasons. THA AIDS *in my nene voice*.. That is all.. I wonder does Range Rover of Buckhead supply them with the vehicles?
A.J.

you bought a house in buckhead but need apollo to do the renovations?
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And he just hanging mirrors!
free

i love mama joyce but she need to leave riley out of her mess!
GAGIRL87

I can’t stand the way Mama Joyce & Kandi talks ughhh And when I hear Mama Joyce say “KANDYYYYYYYYY” it’s like nails on a chalk board
free

we’ll soon see apollo in Home Depot handing out business cards with the messicans. his days are numbered….
GAGIRL87

you bought a house in buckhead but need apollo to do the renovations?
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A.J.

THA AIDS *in my nene voice*.. That is all.. I wonder does Range Rover of Buckhead supply them with the vehicles?
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I hollered when NeNe almost fell back. Range Rover of Gwinnett for NeNe and they supply for any who has money.
Anna

free says:

we’ll soon see apollo in Home Depot handing out business cards with the messicans. his days are numbered….

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What is his occupation? NM, stay @ home husband.
lovezoe

A mess. Phaedra wanted a yella man. She hot him, now she through with him.

Porsha- She playing this divorce in the public opinion. Ms. Kordell a messy queen though.
missyJ

Mama Joyce is a trip…. folks just get entitled
MisTaken :cell: The Black Mamba

*cracks knuckles*
Ms Joyce :stop: I get you want to look out for your daughter. But there is a way you go about it. And using Riley to get it accomplished is not fair. I don’t believe she came to Mama Joyce. I think Mama Joyce instigated and planted things in Riley’s head and that is not fair and will damage Riley in the long run. I do not agree with Kandi moving men in before marriage all quickly with a young child there either
Kenya/Apollo/Phaedra: Something is weird with this trio. Ultimately Apollo was wrong for exchanging any not work related messages with Kenya as he is married. As a woman and potential friend to Phaedra Kenya was dead wrong. If I was Phaedra I would betrayed on all sides
Tink Tink aka Porsha: So now all of the sudden she seems so over Kordell and 16 years old again in maturity and style. It’s like she is ready to TURN up on his dime. I get he made you promises but let’s be honest. You were not married that long and you didn’t have kids. At best you should get support for the amount of years married and that is it. MOVE ON and find another man you and your mother can live off. Kordell might be but you all plotted and schemed off how to spend his money. No innocents
luVn_liFe…

I just saw [a woman that looked an awful lot like] Porsha from the Atlanta Housewives coming out of Krogers on Piedmont in Buckhead [Atlanta] and she used an EBT card to make her purchases. I couldn’t see exactly what she bought because she was three people ahead of me on line, but it looked like some cereal and some fruits and vegetables. She’s eating healthy lol.

Anyways, she pulled out that green card with the peaches on it (the Georgia EBT program card) and paid with it. It was kind of sad too because she must have used up all her money, and she had to go into her purse and use some coins and a few singles to pay the difference.
MisTaken :cell: The Black Mamba

And who said Porsha’s itty bit wig was squeezing her brains out I think it was Phaedra. Saying little head little brain. Chile
Who else is on the show? Oh yea Peter and Cyn. I said before I think he just wanted status and a model wife. He is not here for her having medical issues or getting fat
I like this new/old Nene. THE AIDS She stays with a one liner. And she was quick to put Kenya in her place and say so you did say it.
And on a petty note. Todd can’t tell Kandi to take that red curly fry weave out her head? All that money and connections and that is it? I liked it when she had it longer in a neutral color. I actually think she could rock one of those bobs
lovezoe

Porsha MAMA making it seem like they gold diggers. Talking bout he was supposed to gel ive a monthly allowance, shopping sprees. Not once did you say he was supposed to love her.

Kenya- her jaw should be rocked. Repeatedly.

Nene- she treading lightly lately. Gotta keep them alabaster checks coming in.

Phaedra- kill that southern belle act.
MisTaken :cell: The Black Mamba

Oh and when Mama Joyce said something about the cost of Kandi’s ring KNOWING that is the one she picked out was so petty and showed me her true character. I was done with her with that comment I wanted to say how much was the ring on your finger your spouse bought you? People get brand new real quick.
MisTaken :cell: The Black Mamba

Talking bout he was supposed to gel ive a monthly allowance, shopping sprees. Not once did you say he was supposed to love her.
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sounds like they had an arrangement and neither one of the fulfilled their portion. He didn’t keep the gay in and she didn’t act as a stay at home wife/mom. Part ways and keep it moving.
rwilliams4782

Wonder is Porsha plan on paying back momma that 500.00 with that 5000.00 check she got from Kordell. Porshas mom is giving me Chaka Khan circa 2008. Wouldn’t have given up my master bedroom for her though. If you don’t have enough room seems like you need to have a yardsale. Lord knows you could use the coins. Oh! So Cynthia needs her uterus for what?
http://pearlswindow.com Carrington

First, why is every black mother on reality show called “Mama” and then her first name?

I digress… but only for a moment –

Kandi’s mother has an obligation to say the things to her child that people in the streets caught up in her “celebrity” won’t say out loud.

Kandi has a reputation for providing coins-o-plenty to every man she’s with. Brothers who come into the relationship with no known assets and within a month end up driving a Mercedes… for that reason alone, her mother has an obligation to call it to her attention.

You don’t stop trying to talk your child out of smoking up all their cash in crack – why stop trying to talk them into GIVING away all of their hard earned money to someone who MIGHT be in it to take advantage?

If something where to happen to me, my son will inherit 900,000 pennies and my dvd collection… I need to make sure that no skanych is getting with him to get her hands on my OZ collector set too.
cteastcoast

Carrington says:

First, why is every black mother on reality show called “Mama” and then her first name?

I digress… but only for a moment –

Kandi’s mother has an obligation to say the things to her child that people in the streets caught up in her “celebrity” won’t say out loud.

Kandi has a reputation for providing coins-o-plenty to every man she’s with. Brothers who come into the relationship with no known assets and within a month end up driving a Mercedes… for that reason alone, her mother has an obligation to call it to her attention.

thank you Carrington
http://talkingwithtami.com/blog talkingwithtami

So clearly Porsha must not be on the deed since she don moved in with her mama. Plus why is she and her mama discussing Kordell’s controlling ways, nobody saw his personality traits when they were dating? Kandi’s mom must feel a certain kinda way because once Todd and her get hitched, maybe she will be cut off? Just my observation!
Smonae

Kandie mom dont seem to be happy with anyone Kandie has dated, but Todd seems to have it together he works and has a decent job

But their are other moms on reality TV, Real Housewives of Miami Elsa is off the chain
rwilliams4782

I got one more thing to say lol.. Did you guys see that “paparazzi” outside the courthouse..Chile cheese.. Looked like Freddy O and nem. Looked like people were walking by and Bravo asked them to come up with some questions and pretend to be the media
MisTaken :cell: The Black Mamba

@Carrington: I don’t think it has to do with Joyce looking out for her daughter but rather her methods and the things she says. And her selfish intentions of always coming first. She was all team Todd until they got engaged. Then it was suddenly :stop: he is a horrible person. And I truly believe she speaks inappropriately to Riley about her issues with Todd. Do I think Kandi is out of order for bring him into her house I think she wants to be loved so badly she will do anything for someone who shows her a piece of attention. The comment about the cost of the ring had nothing to do with his character. He bought what she wanted and what HE could afford. Sounds smart to me. She happens to make more money and wants to live a certain live style and he is with her…. he should benefit just like if the roles were reversed.
sassyshe

Talking bout he was supposed to gel ive a monthly allowance, shopping sprees. Not once did you say he was supposed to love her
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Queen Kordell was on radio and said he promised her all that and had no problem flossing on her and her gold digging family until she violated the terms of her contract – being home by sun down and being his live in nanny
Caramel Rain

Mama’s usually know best. They see things we cannot see. Often times we tend to ignore those who are telling the truth because we want to do what we want do. Sadly, if people continue to ignore their elders, they end up with crazy, pyscho killers or lazy moochers that you cant get rid of…

I didnt see anything wrong with advise that Ms. Joyce gave her daughter. But that’s jus me
MisTaken :cell: The Black Mamba

Those “paps” outside were :lame: Kenya was acting like she had a crowd. I really wanted to like her because I thought she was so classy and beautiful before RHOA and Trios She should her rep for some coins
MsB2u

i think mama joyce needs ease up
lovezoe

Taken- I think Mama Joyce was trying to get her mad. Nothing else worked, so she had to keep digging. At a certain point, you gotta your grown kids be grown. The more she push the more Kandi gone want to be with Toff. She may not like him, but she needs to be respectful comes over.
lovezoe

Kenya know she called them papa
A.J.

Looked like Freddy O and nem.
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Wuff cell phones; I died when she said “this is my life.”
Caramel Rain

sounds like they had an arrangement and neither one of the fulfilled their portion. He didn’t keep the gay in and she didn’t act as a stay at home wife/mom. Part ways and keep it moving.
*******8

MisTaken, hush up
Crickett

Kandi should get her tubes tied, a vibrator and wait on her daughter and mother all day. Maybe even stop working because that takes time away from when she could be getting her mother a glass of water or her daughter the remote.
mstudammuch

A.J. says:

you bought a house in buckhead but need apollo to do the renovations?
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And he just hanging mirrors!
http://pearlswindow.com Carrington

I don’t know, Talking With Tami – I just don’t know that everything is about money for Kandi’s mother and not necessarily concern for her only daughter.

Let any person reading this who would have a child with millions in the bank and NOT be concerned about the fact that their free-hearted child seems to be “engaged” every two years to guys who have considerably less than she does and then say that they too wouldn’t be concerned about motive, and I’ll show you someone who doesn’t care, or someone who is a liar.

The fact that Todd has flat out refused to sign a prenup is very suspicious to me as I suspect that if HE were the one coming into this relationship with the money, he would be all for HER signing one to protect himself.

Not to mention the fact that Kandi has always taken care of her mother, why would that stop when she gets a husband? She’s not taking care of her mother from Todd’s earnings, she’s taking care of her mother AND Todd with HER money.

I suspect that Todd can’t pay the taxes on those TWO homes that he and Kandi live in.
CaliYoruba

Kandi- I’m here for her Velvet Rope Hair tease but I did the math when she said they’d been together for 2 years but living together for 1 year and a half. Soooo, you moved this man in your house with your daughter within 6 months of dating??? Mama Joyce is right. Kandi wants to be in love so bad so she is consistently settling.

Phaedra/Apollo- Apollo was miserable after the first baby

Porscha- You get $5000/monthly, no kids or responsiblities and you can’t afford to live on your own?

Nene- THA AIDS

Kenya- She has some fillers or something. Just stop before you look like Lil Kim

Cynthia/Peter- He was SO insensitive to her fibroids. I was trying to figure out what da fuq he was laughing about when she was crying…
A.J.

I would be shame to ask my mother for five hundred dollars when my spouse is a millionaire just as I would be shame to ask my mother for her master bedroom.

It starts with Porsha and her mother enabling her….
MisTaken :cell: The Black Mamba

At a certain point, you gotta your grown kids be grown. The more she push the more Kandi gone want to be with Toff. She may not like him, but she needs to be respectful comes over.
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Right. Joyce most likely is right but as with anything you state your grievance and move on. I know it will hurt to watch them struggle but a hard head make a soft I was with her when she commented about A.J. she had valid points. Todd He is/was employed and started dating her daughter. Any time I saw him interact with Riley (off or on camera) they seemed to get along well. Except for when Riley was like Mama why is he moving in so soon. UM :stop: as a mom she should have slowed down and put down some stipulations for him moving in. Like maybe they spend more time together as a family and wait until after the marriage. But I guess since they bought the house they wanted to all move in together.
Caramel Rain

She was all team Todd until they got engaged. Then it was suddenly he is a horrible person. And I truly believe she speaks inappropriately to Riley about her issues with Todd
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ever thought that maybe, just maybe, Riley didnt feel comfortable admitting to her mom that she doesnt like Todd? I have a cousin, and her kids HATE her BF that lives with them but they wont say a word to their mom. Most kids dont want to upset their parents, esp when they think they are “happy”
sassyshe

I think when it came to aj mama joyce was onto something and yes everyone knows kandi is a suga mamma. However I think mama joyce is one of those moms who like to keep their kids under their thumbs so they will cut down anyone that they think will take that child away from them because that child’ s loneliness means they will always be priority
http://pearlswindow.com Carrington

When did Atlanta get paparazzi? LOL
rwilliams4782

I know right @caliyoruba.. Honey I would have told him I don’t need you to even come with me to the doctors office. Doctor asking ME questions about MY body and you answering talking about “Her period sometimes messes up her clothes” . He trying to get back to and not worried about her fibroids.
Caramel Rain

being home by sun down and being his live in nanny
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most married people should be in by a certain time out of respect for your husband/wife. I see nothing wrong with that. If you married to someone with kids and they live with you, aren’t you technically a guardian and should care for he child?
A.J.

And who in thee hail renovates a home in Gucci belts and chit…they got Phaedra lookin like the class clown.

And aint nobody that damn busy, let some of those side “odd” jobs go and take care of your man fo someone else be slobbin his knob while you changing stank pampers!!
rwilliams4782

When did Atlanta get paparazzi? LOL
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I guess those are the only 5 “paps” in all of Atlanta .. lol.. Kenya out there like she got acquitted of murder..
cteastcoast

Smh at Kandi she need to be ashamed always taking care of these so called Men..Todd wasn’t making that much money being a camera man
MisTaken :cell: The Black Mamba

ever thought that maybe, just maybe, Riley didnt feel comfortable admitting to her mom that she doesnt like Todd?
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I thought about that and I think that even if Kandi was with the PERFECT MAN her mother would still find a way to bring him down and use Riley to do it. Again, I am not saying that her advice isn’t sound or truthful. I am saying her methods aren’t good and she is not above manipulation and gossip to get her way. I think if she could she would have her Kandi and Riley live together and be together forever. ALONE.
#Nonewfriends <MsJoyce
Anna

Carrington says:

When did Atlanta get paparazzi? LOL

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rwilliams4782

Ms.Joyce said make sure you got a prenup so if you should choke and die He doesn’t come put me out .. Thats true because once she marries him that old house is his
MisTaken :cell: The Black Mamba

ME questions about MY body and you answering talking about “Her period sometimes messes up her clothes”
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I died a little at this one
I was like Uncle Ben should’ve kept that secret
A.J.

Ms.Joyce said make sure you got a prenup so if you should choke and die
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On a chicken bone!!
Caramel Rain

MisTaken The Black Mamba says:

ever thought that maybe, just maybe, Riley didnt feel comfortable admitting to her mom that she doesnt like Todd?
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I thought about that and I think that even if Kandi was with the PERFECT MAN her mother would still find a way to bring him down and use Riley to do it. Again, I am not saying that her advice isn’t sound or truthful. I am saying her methods aren’t good and she is not above manipulation and gossip to get her way. I think if she could she would have her Kandi and Riley live together and be together forever. ALONE.
#Nonewfriends <MsJoyce

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interesting. I dont get that vibe from her. I think she knows her daughter is sucker for love and will buy at man at any cost (see track records) so she is protecting her and making sure that no man uses her, again.. True, I didnt like what she said about her ring, but eh? IDK…
Caramel Rain

MisTaken The Black Mamba says:

ME questions about MY body and you answering talking about “Her period sometimes messes up her clothes”
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I died a little at this one
I was like Uncle Ben should’ve kept that secret

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I haven’t gotten comfy sleeping with him yet while on my period. I will sleep in the other room awkward
A.J.

I didnt like what she said about her ring, but eh? IDK…
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That was low.
Ty

MisTaken The Black Mamba says:

@ MisTaken: I wish I could tell you what I know, but Ive been sworn to secrecy. The truth will come out soon…. and it has nothing to do with Kenya. Trust.
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U can tell the Roses Auntie we wont tell anyone *pinky promise*

Apollo seems to be with Phaedra for convenience. I don’t think he was ever into her and that damn prayer cloth

Morning Roses :wave:
Just Looking

my son will inherit 900,000 pennies and my dvd collection
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But I agree, Mama Joyce is right for want to protect he weekly stipend from Kandi. :piza: and Wings <<<<<—– From Kandi's house.

Kandi made some good points about men with LOADS of disposable cash. They have whores/hoards of women throwing themselves at them and she don't like sharing. She found a man WHO doesn't have as much as her. Everybody can't be the supa duper power team. That was fugged up what her mama said about her rang. Mama Joyce was dead as wrong. Not necessary to have a 20 carat rang. Kandi lives in a mansion with $900000000000000000 in the bank. Point proven.
Anna

Caramel Rain says:

being home by sun down and being his live in nanny
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most married people should be in by a certain time out of respect for your husband/wife. I see nothing wrong with that. If you married to someone with kids and they live with you, aren’t you technically a guardian and should care for he child?

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I never wanted to be w/a man w/kids. My son moved out 3 months ago, and two weeks later my husband’s niece moved in. Being married is not easy, but being a parent to a 14 yr. old is time consuming.
sassyshe

@caramel though I agree it alk depends on who you are married to. Some guys get so caught up in the physical appearance of a female that they don’t realize that woman don’t want to be a full time mother or wife. Kordell met Porsha, wined and dined her and she was so happy for a man with status that she agreed to anything to get a ring on that finger. Porsha however had her own ambitions and the minute she got her opportunity she ran with regardless of the role she agreed to occupy in her marriage
http://www.gravatar.com/avatar/db78ef2b213fd6958c1aa6773fe9a6dc?s=80 jeniefrumdabloc

Hey Kandi, the truth hurts Kandi Hey moms just looking out for ya, but of course you want listen….. sometimes you gotta let folks hang themeselves
Ty

That is all.. I wonder does Range Rover of Buckhead supply them with the vehicles?
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Probably It would be good advertising
http://www.gravatar.com/avatar/db78ef2b213fd6958c1aa6773fe9a6dc?s=80 jeniefrumdabloc

and what has Kenya done to her face In Kenya confessionals her hair was everything but not so much when she was with the ladies
Ty

Anna says:

free says:

we’ll soon see apollo in Home Depot handing out business cards with the messicans. his days are numbered….

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What is his occupation? NM, stay @ home husband.
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Barber, Cert. fitness trainer, auto thief, and home renovator
Caramel Rain

A.J. says:

I didnt like what she said about her ring, but eh? IDK…
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That was low.

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very.. esp since Kandi is not into spending a lotta money on stuff and being flashy
http://pearlswindow.com Carrington

I love how black women are feeling some kind of way about a mother taking the liberty of letting her only daughter know that her man with considerably less MAY not be in it for the love…

Yet, many of the SAME ones who want Kandi’s MAMA to fall back and let Kandi be a grown woman, felt the need to speak on Kanye’s decision to be with Kim Kardashian and she’s actually COMING into that relationship with money in the bank?

Hypocritical much?
http://www.gravatar.com/avatar/db78ef2b213fd6958c1aa6773fe9a6dc?s=80 jeniefrumdabloc

That natural wig she is wearing is horrid Kandi
Just Looking

A.J. says:

Ms.Joyce said make sure you got a prenup so if you should choke and die
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Mama Joyce said make sure you got a prenup so if you should choke and die….

So he dont’ come quick me out this house you gave me for free. Umm :stop: the camera. Kandi did you pay my light bill, water bill and car note.
rwilliams4782

jeniefrumdabloc says:

and what has Kenya done to her face
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She got cheek fillers but she didn’t let the swelling go down before filming started. She should have gotten it done two weeks prior.
http://www.gravatar.com/avatar/db78ef2b213fd6958c1aa6773fe9a6dc?s=80 jeniefrumdabloc

rwilliams4782 says:

jeniefrumdabloc says:
and what has Kenya done to her face
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She got cheek fillers but she didn’t let the swelling go down before filming started. She should have gotten it done two weeks prior.
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she should have left it alone
missyJ

Kandi has a reputation for providing coins-o-plenty to every man she’s with. Brothers who come into the relationship with no known assets and within a month end up driving a Mercedes… for that reason alone, her mother has an obligation to call it to her attention.

You don’t stop trying to talk your child out of smoking up all their cash in crack – why stop trying to talk them into GIVING away all of their hard earned money to someone who MIGHT be in it to take advantage?

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I think the jump from crack to a man is a leap. Unless the man is abusive, obviously not interested in the woman for ANYTHING besides her money (don’t call don’t write don’t say bless you when you sneeze unless there is a $20 waiting) I think we can leave a person to “cake” anyone they want. Kandi is hardly stupid when it comes to finances, I think her mom and RIley will be fine so if supporting Todd is what she wants to do more power to her.

What’s the difference than the rich men out her on sugarbaby dot com looking for some young woman to support? You earn it you spend how you wish, as long as it’s not killing you (i.e. crack).
http://www.gravatar.com/avatar/db78ef2b213fd6958c1aa6773fe9a6dc?s=80 jeniefrumdabloc

Just Looking says:

A.J. says:
Ms.Joyce said make sure you got a prenup so if you should choke and die
^^^^^^^^^
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Mama Joyce said make sure you got a prenup so if you should choke and die….
So he dont’ come quick me out this house you gave me for free. Umm :stop: the camera. Kandi did you pay my light bill, water bill and car note
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yeah I saw that Hey lets be honest , doesn’t look like Mama Joyce has ever been wrong about any of the men and I am sorry but you don’t have but one mama I agree with a lot of what Mama Joyce said, grant you she could have used a different choice of words ………
http://youtube.com/user/Ateyaaa Ateya

I’m enjoying the show. Great Job Ladies!

In my opinion. I understand that Joyce is looking out for her daughter BUT….lets be clear Khandi is grown.

In life you MUST allow your children to stumble and fall.

In my opinion I think Joyce feels like Khandi will stop doing for her…but Khandi made very clear that will never happen.

I think her mom wants her with a man that clocks in every day.

I think all this is what JOYCE wants in a man…not what Khandi wants and that’s a problem.

I cried when her mom talked about the ring…and as Khandi cried I thought her mom would apologize but she didn’t…to me that was cruel.

I think her mom needs to just let her be…get along with Todd and let her daughter be happy.

And if it does not work…just be there to lift her up…not say I TOLD YOU SO!
http://www.gravatar.com/avatar/db78ef2b213fd6958c1aa6773fe9a6dc?s=80 jeniefrumdabloc

Carrington says:

When did Atlanta get paparazzi? LOL
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They have em every now and then , but obviously she called these fools I was like um really and how she was making sure they wrote down the right quotes
missyJ

Yet, many of the SAME ones who want Kandi’s MAMA to fall back and let Kandi be a grown woman, felt the need to speak on Kanye’s decision to be with Kim Kardashian and she’s actually COMING into that relationship with money in the bank?

Hypocritical much?

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This woman here could not care less Kanye is with Kim K, but I’m failing to see the correlation. Are you saying no one should speak an opinion on who is dating whom in Hollywood? Cuz that would leave Sandra with very little to blog about….

Now I’m more worried about KH flossing his little golddigger on IG. THat situation makes me everytime
lovezoe

I personally didn’t like then bringing AJ up. That man dead.
Kizzy S

I listened closely to Mama Joyce’s words and her concerns are more about Kandi’s dough than Todd being a good guy. Her words: If you choke on a chicken bone I don’t want him coming over here putting me out :-/ Ummm first off what kind of mother is thinking about how her finances will pan out if her daughter was to pass away??? Sounds like she is just afraid that her lifestyle will change if Kandi has a mister in the picture Find some business and get a man of your own. IJS
Ty

Carrington says:

When did Atlanta get paparazzi? LOL
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That was Fred and nem from OTM
MisTaken :cell: The Black Mamba

I love how black women are feeling some kind of way about a mother taking the liberty of letting her only daughter know that her man with considerably less MAY not be in it for the love…

Yet, many of the SAME ones who want Kandi’s MAMA to fall back and let Kandi be a grown woman, felt the need to speak on Kanye’s decision to be with Kim Kardashian and she’s actually COMING into that relationship with money in the bank?

Hypocritical much
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No but your comment was. Black women? You want to make that not so general? I respect you font but I do not like generalization. Especially when I do not fall into them and they are inaccurate. Again I said I think Ms. Joyce has valid points but she is also coming for a selfish place of her own interests. So she is not totally right just because she is her mother. True Kandi has made bad mistakes in the past. This may be one of them. Let her know your position and then if she refuses to listen you gotta let it go. And what does the ring size have to do with him being a good man? Last time I checked he was gainfully employed and took care of his portion. That came out of the woman’s mouth who he is with. Last time I checked he wasn’t sleeping with or marrying her mama so she might not know everything.
Oh and I responded to this because I am a black woman. Not because it applied to me. Just thought I would clarify before I was misquoted. You know hit dog and hollering
Ty

jeniefrumdabloc says:

and what has Kenya done to her face In Kenya confessionals her hair was everything but not so much when she was with the ladies
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yes hunty..it was blended perfectly
http://www.gravatar.com/avatar/db78ef2b213fd6958c1aa6773fe9a6dc?s=80 jeniefrumdabloc

I remember my father not necessarily begged but damn near, told my sister not to marry this last con artist and lawd …. she married em …. next thing you know the family (all of us) had to deal with the fall out….. my point is you can’t force people to accept anything, especially when it comes to your charge,……. My sister damn near gave my father all kind of health issues because of her fawked azz decisions. When have other family members involved, as in trying to get them to accept him…. it could become a huge issue…… till this day if something would have happened to my dad, I would have cussed my sister out and probrably would have slapped the shyt out of her too
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did I say charge I meant marriage, sorry I’m reading a statement and trying to type at the same time excuse the typos
MisTaken :cell: The Black Mamba

listened closely to Mama Joyce’s words and her concerns are more about Kandi’s dough than Todd being a good guy. Her words: If you choke on a chicken bone I don’t want him coming over here putting me out :-/ Ummm first off what kind of mother is thinking about how her finances will pan out if her daughter was to pass away??? Sounds like she is just afraid that her lifestyle will change if Kandi has a mister in the picture Find some business and get a man of your own. IJS
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Now in the upcoming episodes it looks like the mom will say he is cheating. With her best friend. We will see how that goes….
Ms Peaches

Phaedra the southern belle needs a maid. It looks like they are not even unpacked and living out of the boxes.
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Hey TY
MisTaken :cell: The Black Mamba

@Jenie: I agree. A lot of times people can see what you can’t see. In those cases you can tell them until you are blue in the face but if they don’t want to hear it In those cases as much as it hurts you have to love them from afar. I have had to do it. When and if they realize it then they appreciate you letting them know and then letting them go/grow. It hurts though. And sometimes we try to force them to see it but it never works. almost pulls them closer to the other person.
A.J.

I personally didn’t like then bringing AJ up. That man dead.
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I did not care for that either.
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Ms Peaches says:

Phaedra the southern belle needs a maid. It looks like they are not even unpacked and living out of the boxes.
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Phaedra looks as if she is bout tired of Apollo and his ho3 ways something is up with them two
Ty

Momma Joyce was well within her right to speak on the phuckery Kandi has never made good choices with men (especially sleeping with Splinter/JD) and is known to be a sugar mama I don’t agree with Joyce’s approach but she was right (except about the ring that was tacky) and the fact that he refused to sign the pre-nup speaks volumes.

They left the country to get married, so he doesn’t have any legal rights in the states so it doesn’t matter
http://pearlswindow.com Carrington

Dear All,

The “generalization” is directed at THE black women commenting their desire for Kandi’s mother to let Kandi be grown, who will ALSO go in on KANYE’s grown a$$ and HIS choice every single time Sandra posts a picture of the person HE chose to be with.

If KANDI is grown… so is Kanye.

I don’t feel the need to preface my statements with “some”, “a lot of”, “many”, “All” because I simply don’t feel the need to as I SUSPECT that “MOST” people understand that there is no way for me to speak about ALL of anybody and if you don’t understand that that which does not apply to you is not ABOUT you, then you’ve got bigger issues to deal with today and Miss Joyce shouldn’t be in that number.

No disrespect, but I’m just sayin’.
CaliYoruba

Apollo already said last season ” I want my wife back” . Well guess what, there are two other little people in your family now. If you helped her out around the house more, you could probably get ‘your wife back’. He just seems like the type of guy to get selfish when he realizes it’s not all about him anymore
QueenSJ

If Todd is in fact a user, then she needs to allow Kandi to figure that out for herself. This is not a perfect world. You can’t save your children from everything every time. If that were the case, people wouldn’t make mistakes and have to learn from them, especially when it comes to relationships.

Honestly, I personally do not know anybody, let alone, a black woman, whose enraged about Kanye West being with Kim Kardashian.
A.J.

Now in the upcoming episodes it looks like the mom will say he is cheating. With her best friend. We will see how that goes….
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Manufactured crisis. Nobody wants Todd but Kandi.
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MisTaken The Black Mamba says:

@Jenie: I agree. A lot of times people can see what you can’t see. In those cases you can tell them until you are blue in the face but if they don’t want to hear it In those cases as much as it hurts you have to love them from afar. I have had to do it. When and if they realize it then they appreciate you letting them know and then letting them go/grow. It hurts though. And sometimes we try to force them to see it but it never works. almost pulls them closer to the other person.
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Yep but in some cases it be you parents, being left to clean up the emotional mess, especially when it comes to those grand babies Kandi just want a man
capricorn83

If nothing else, Kandi has proven to be smart about her coins. She has said plenty of times that a prenup is non-negotiable and Todd has agreed to one in the past. I’ll hold my judgement on the future clip bc Bravo loves to manufacture a crisis. Mama Joyce may be right, but her methods are wrong. She definitely comes across petty and solely worried about her finances. She can’t be Kandi’s mom AND her man. She also needs to leave Riley out of it
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Where is KaNya West coming from
Ty

@ Jenie hey hun
MisTaken :cell: The Black Mamba

All” because I simply don’t feel the need to as I SUSPECT that “MOST” people understand that there is no way for me to speak about ALL of anybody and if you don’t understand that that which does not apply to you is not ABOUT you, then you’ve got bigger issues to deal with today and Miss Joyce shouldn’t be in that number.
No disrespect, but I’m just sayin’.
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No, you were intentionally cheeky but I don’t come here with my feelings out so no disrespect taken. We are cool I get your thorough explanation about it not being possible to speak on behalf or about everyone but we all know that people make these generalizations often meaning EVERYONE they have encountered so in an effort to be more transparent I would think you would stray from using such confusing language. Especially as an author…. But I digress. No disrespect. I’m just saying
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Hell some folks get tired of telling their child I told you so I just hope and pray when Mr Right comes, my parents will accept him because that has to be an awful feeling not having the support of your parents with a huge decision like this
QueenSJ

@Carrington

I don’t think there is any particular need to be condescending. And it takes all of a split second to include a qualifier. It prevents miscommunication in these instances. You may not feel the need to make use of certain words to be more specific, but it’s not reasonable to expect others to automatically know what you assume, no?
MisTaken :cell: The Black Mamba

Honestly, I personally do not know anybody, let alone, a black woman, whose enraged about Kanye West being with Kim Kardashian
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ALL of the black women I know don’t care
@Jenie: I agree. As parents it is sad that often we are left to pick up the pieces. Shoot as family! I know some people taking care of their parent’s messing and they should know a lot better by now! But honor thy father and mother….
QueenSJ

*quantifier
MisTaken :cell: The Black Mamba
Just Looking

Kayne got issues, he been right since the relationship ended with Alexis, but that another post. He on some other chit right now. He actually and really thinks he is European.

Hopeful for Kandi and Todd, it’s not like he was a vagrant that she found a the stop sign. Mama Joyce, got a problem with her baby marrying down.
Caramel Rain

sassyshe says:

@caramel though I agree it alk depends on who you are married to. Some guys get so caught up in the physical appearance of a female that they don’t realize that woman don’t want to be a full time mother or wife. Kordell met Porsha, wined and dined her and she was so happy for a man with status that she agreed to anything to get a ring on that finger. Porsha however had her own ambitions and the minute she got her opportunity she ran with regardless of the role she agreed to occupy in her marriage

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that is true too..
http://twitter.com/SayItaIntSoJoe8 Atypical

Even though her delivery was sort of wrong I dont think she wants Kandi to marry him because she’s concerned about her. Mama Joyce IS overbearing but she was right about AJ and probably is right about Todd. I was just telling one of my tweeps that, I believe Kandi does take care of her fiancé’s financially. Marlo called her a sugar mama and last night Ms Joyce said the same thing…
vipatlstyle

I was about to comment on Kandi’s behalf. However, I just realized that I JUST DON’T CARE. Back to the drawing board on stacking my own coins up. Good day!
tallie

Mama Joyce needs to have several seats. She raised her daughter and now she should trust her daughter’s decisions. I think Mama Joyce is worried that Todd would convince Kandi to stop supporting her mom.