Tyrese Gibson and daughter Shayla

R&B singer/actor Tyrese Gibson's baby mama refused his court-ordered visitation rights with his daughter, Shayla Gibson, last night. Gossip website TMZ reports Tyrese went to Norma Gibson's home in North Hollywood Tuesday night to pick up his 6-year-old daughter. Sources tell TMZ Norma refused to allow Tyrese to see the child because -- she claimed -- Shayla was sick.

Tyrese reportedly called Norma and told her he was on his way to get his daughter. Sources tell TMZ Norma Gibson called the cops because she didn't believe the court order required her to hand over the child. When LAPD officers arrived on the scene Norma asked them to look over the document. LAPD officers and Tyrese arrived at the home at about the same time.

Cops talked to Tyrese and left, and so did Tyrese -- without his daughter, according to TMZ.

The police did not write a police report. But the case isn't over for Tyrese. He plans to go to court today to ask a judge to hold Norma in contempt and to throw her in jail for violating the child custody order. Tyrese does not believe his child was sick. He thinks Norma was just being evil and vindictive.

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    • Just Looking

      Cutie Pie

    • FuturedocDonte

      Shouldn't have left without seeing the child.... Taking her to court will be a waste :coffee:

    • Just Looking

      Tyrese arrived at the home at about the same time.
      Cops talked to Tyrese and left, and so did Tyrese — without his daughter, according to TMZ.
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      :tea: Court orders :happy: :love: them When they in "your: favor :kona:

      Umm he can go to court today, but he will have to wait for a COURT DATE, unless there is a reason to prove that the child is in harms wait. They will see his ASHY arse in 30 to 45 days.

      :waves: :bye: to Tyrese

    • Smonae

      Why man,, let that man see his kid. If she sick let her dad tend to her :no:

    • http://www.caboki.com/index.html Man, I just don’t care™

      SMH. Why would the baby being sick be a reason for him not to see her? The Momma seeing her while she sick. If anything she shoulda called him to come and see her while she was sick.

      SMH. But that hoe accept that child support/extortion money every month tho.

    • pointhimout

      Being a friend to a couple females who get put thru hell by the fathers of their kids, I'm not surprised. Tyrese be on social media clowning and saying all sorts of schit about his ex-wife. In this type relationship, the parents take turns wreaking havoc on the other. It's his turn next. Being the man, he'll get her with child support or something related to money. That is typically how the men get back at the women: financially.

    • Dani

      Man, I just don't care™ says:

      SMH. But that *** accept that child support/extortion money every month tho.
      _________________________________

      :yes: :preach:

      Hi All!!!

    • http://www.landofpure.net

      twitter made me dislike ole Black Ty. much as i cut for him b4 i knew his thoughts :confused:

    • Just Looking

      According to TMZ, Tyrese and his ex, Norma Gibson, are in the middle of a child custody dispute, and as part of her ammunition Norma has filed court documents flat out calling Tyrese a bad dad. Referring to Tyrese’s trip to L.A. to visit the crash site of Paul Walker’s death, Norma says her ex-husband should’ve stuck around to spend time with their 6-year-old daughter while he was in town, especially since “Fast & Furious 7? was put on hold. Instead, she claims, 35-year-old Tyrese chose to go “”gallivanting throughout Dubai … staying in expensive hotels … partying on yachts, sky-diving with other movie stars, driving expensive cars, and making special appearances in night clubs,” rather than spend time with his child.
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      You can't just see your child when it's convenient for you. MEN want to make a scene to clean up what they already DID NOT DO!

      IMO :shrug:

    • LuvMySailor

      I hate women who use their children as pawns against men. Then they wonder why eventually that man doesn't want to have anything to do with the child or her.

      I knew a girl who was acting like this. I had to remind her that her babydaddy could always go have another child and leave hers in the dust. I think I got my point across to her.

    • cteastcoast

      I can't stand this man right here

    • http://www.landofpure.net

      she's a lil cutie pie tho :)

    • cteastcoast

      But this woman claims Ty was verbally and physically abusive to her and I can see that just by reading his rants on social media

    • Who Dat

      twitter made me dislike ole Black Ty.
      ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
      Right. Cause before all of the stuff he said....I wanted us to run away and raise our two Shayla's together.

      Fugg him though.

    • https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mKUg9iK7xeU Razz n Tazz n Such :kiss:

      Why he got on a coat and hat and she dont? :blink:

    • Matchsticks

      Even tho Tyrese annoys the crap out of me, this chick has been bitter and vindictive since day 1. I can remember stories about her wayyy back when they first split...

    • https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mKUg9iK7xeU Razz n Tazz n Such :kiss:

      Who Dat says:

      twitter made me dislike ole Black Ty.
      ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
      Right. Cause before all of the stuff he said….I wanted us to run away and raise our two Shayla’s together.
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      Same here :rofl:

    • Matchsticks

      SMH. But that hoe accept that child support/extortion money every month tho
      __________

      Apparently the child support ruling was that of Chris Bosh proportions...he must have had a great lawyer :lol:

    • http://www.caboki.com/index.html Man, I just don’t care™

      NObody in the background got on sleeves either tho...

    • https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mKUg9iK7xeU Razz n Tazz n Such :kiss:

      I'd still smash him though... if he wore duct tape on his mouth.. only to remove it when he's "on the job". Then after a fresh piece would be placed back on. :tape:
      .
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      .
      .
      .
      :kona:

    • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_nAbQogbMOk Buttercup

      SMH. But that hoe accept that child support/extortion money every month tho.
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      Is it still extortion if they were married?

    • Who Dat

      But that hoe accept that child support/extortion money every month tho.

      ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
      Whatevs.

    • Just Looking

      <<<<----Pro for what's right! Parents don't have to be together, just do what's right for the child.

      As far as this Extortion that "MAN" speaks of, Judges don't pick a number out the sky. The amount of child support is based upon calculations and current income according to current wages from IRS, this document is viewed in court by attorney and judge. They just don't do do all willynilly.

      Tyrese seem like Jodi, from Baby Boy more and more everyday. He should stick to singing. :tea:

    • https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mKUg9iK7xeU Razz n Tazz n Such :kiss:

      Man, I just don't care™ says:

      NObody in the background got on sleeves either tho…
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      :huh:

      I wonder wtf was going through his head then... :think:

    • Matchsticks

      I’d still smash him though… if he wore duct tape on his mouth..
      _______

      In the last Fast & Furious movie...

      When he was standing on the plane...

      in that suit...

      :hump:

    • Jdore

      Smonae says:

      Why man,, let that man see his kid. If she sick let her dad tend to her :no:
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      :cosign: I preferred my dad when I was sick. He gave me more sympathy than my mom

    • http://www.caboki.com/index.html Man, I just don’t care™

      @JUST LOOKING
      "As far as this Extortion that "MAN" speaks of, Judges don't pick a number out the sky. The amount of child support is based upon calculations and current income according to current wages from IRS, this document is viewed in court by attorney and judge. They just don't do do all willynilly. "
      _______________________

      The concept of it being on his income itself is Willy Nilly.

      The fact that there is NO assurance that it even goes to the welfare of the child is Willy Nilly.

      GTFOH!

      The whole concept in and of itself is WILLY PHUCKIN NILLY!

    • https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mKUg9iK7xeU Razz n Tazz n Such :kiss:

      The amount of child support is based upon calculations and current income according to current wages from IRS, this document is viewed in court by attorney and judge. They just don't do do all willynilly
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      Same thing with T.O.'s CS matters I was saying yesterday... but it's not being heard though. Falling on deaf ears as rediculousness :lol:

    • http://santanasantana.wix.com/artist San ah make ya dance

      Man why these women use these kids as pawns or get back? Plus it be the ones that daddies are trying to be there :no: I told my bro shyt treat her like she wanna be treated :tea:

    • http://santanasantana.wix.com/artist San ah make ya dance

      That child up there with his nose and eyes

    • http://www.caboki.com/index.html Man, I just don’t care™

      @BUTTERCUP
      "SMH. But that hoe accept that child support/extortion money every month tho.
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      Is it still extortion if they were married?
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      I ain't know they was married. So since they was married, it's prolly not extortion because more than likely they both agreed to have a child.
      :coffee:

    • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_nAbQogbMOk Buttercup

      Maybe Tyrese was coming to get the child outside of visitation that was ruled by the judge. Maybe Norma didn't feel like being nice or wanted the child to stay home while she's sick. Unfortunately, when the court gets involved, you're not obligated to go above and beyond the judge's ruling. Would it be the right thing to do? Yes. Did she have to do so? No.

    • https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mKUg9iK7xeU Razz n Tazz n Such :kiss:

      My birthday is in 18 days. I'm about to pass around this SR collection plate so I can cop those eye glasses with a camera on them. :lol:

    • http://santanasantana.wix.com/artist San ah make ya dance

      And don't matter what he did to her. He aint did too much, he not in jail :tea: Gots nothing to do with the kid. You laid up and had it w/ him so guess what. You gots to see that fool

    • http://www.caboki.com/index.html Man, I just don’t care™

      @RAZZ
      "The amount of child support is based upon calculations and current income according to current wages from IRS, this document is viewed in court by attorney and judge. They just don’t do do all willynilly
      ———-
      Same thing with T.O.’s CS matters I was saying yesterday… but it’s not being heard though. Falling on deaf ears as rediculousness "
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      :blink:

      WTF? Everyone in here already know the money is stolen based on a man's income.

      The thing with T.O. is that they based a 18 year monthly extortion payment amount decision on an amount of money he would be making for 5 years.

      That is ridiculous... on top of the entire concept being ridiculous.

    • Matchsticks

      @Man

      Yeah they were married for a VERY short period of time...but I remember when they divorced she did not get anywhere near the amount of money she was trying to get in alimony and child support...it was a bitter split if I remember correctly...

    • https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mKUg9iK7xeU Razz n Tazz n Such :kiss:

      Brickhouse Spy Glasses...

    • Who Dat

      Now the whole daddy cant come in while the lil girl sick...BD was the one who dealt with sick 18yo more than me. He worked at night, had more PTO than I did...and nukka she asking for you ANYWAY.

      Norma did that all wrong. :no:

    • http://www.caboki.com/index.html Man, I just don’t care™

      Yeah they were married for a VERY short period of time…but I remember when they divorced she did not get anywhere near the amount of money she was trying to get in alimony and child support…it was a bitter split if I remember correctly…
      ________________________

      She prolly thought she had hoodwinked her a nigga real good and was set up for life and the chit backfired.

      I would be mad too if I was her. This extortion thing is set up for her to win and she still lost. :lol:

    • Who Dat

      The concept of it being on his income itself is Willy Nilly.

      ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
      Norma was unemployed WHEN HE GOT WITH HER. His fault. Not like he aint know.

      :coffee:

    • http://santanasantana.wix.com/artist San ah make ya dance

      I don't like talking about my fellow women, but I've been around some females that are just plain wrong and dirty. The kind that need a dude to say you know what go to hell and let her really see how it is to be a single mama. Maybe they will straighten up :tea:

    • http://www.caboki.com/index.html Man, I just don’t care™

      @WHO DAT
      "The concept of it being on his income itself is Willy Nilly.

      ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
      Norma was unemployed WHEN HE GOT WITH HER. His fault. Not like he aint know.
      ________________________________

      His situation was different. He more than likely AGREED to the birth, so yeah, he should help.

      But if he ain't AGREE, then that chit should be on her by her dayum self.
      :coffee:

    • Matchsticks

      Man, I just don't care™ says:

      Yeah they were married for a VERY short period of time…but I remember when they divorced she did not get anywhere near the amount of money she was trying to get in alimony and child support…it was a bitter split if I remember correctly…
      ________________________
      She prolly thought she had hoodwinked her a nigga real good and was set up for life and the chit backfired.
      I would be mad too if I was her. This extortion thing is set up for her to win and she still lost. :lol:
      ___________

      That's kind of the way it came across too...I think the divorce was right around the time of that first Transformers movie...she hearing "cha-ching" in her head but then was left with :egg: on her face...damn... :(

    • https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mKUg9iK7xeU Razz n Tazz n Such :kiss:

      Man accept the fact that it's just the calculation of the court with the income at the time being. If folks didn't have to go thru the court system to make a person pay anything (male and female) it wouldn't be as absurd.

      Whether or not you're making the same amount years later is totally up to you (or your employer at the time). That same person can always go back to court to get the ammount adjusted to their current income.

      It also just comes to they type of character the person you laid with has. If they are using the money like they are supposed to and actually working to save just in case a decrease in support happens, folks wouldn't be so mad. But it's not always the case with scorned, broken hearted bishes and niccas. :lol:

    • Matchsticks

      Who Dat says:

      The concept of it being on his income itself is Willy Nilly.
      ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
      Norma was unemployed WHEN HE GOT WITH HER. His fault. Not like he aint know.
      :coffee:
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      and isn't she British? I remember her not being from the states...

    • http://santanasantana.wix.com/artist San ah make ya dance

      According to the docs, Norma doesn't get a piece of any of Tyrese's possessions -- not his production company, not his cars, not his house ... nothing.

      The prenup does state that Norma would get a lump sum of $50,000 for every year they were married -- maxed out at 10 years. The couple was only married 10 months.

      How's this for brutal? The prenup says that if either side files for separation or divorce, Norma has to move out of the house within 60 days -- or else Tyrese can get a court order to make her move out.
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      This heifer signed that and didn't even make no years :blink:

    • SOTHERNGRL

      So he cant see the baby cause she sick. wouldnt seeing her daddy make her tummy or whatever feel better. I may have to agree with the co cola singer sounds like she just being mean.

    • http://santanasantana.wix.com/artist San ah make ya dance

      According to TMZ, the request was denied after Tyrese produced receipts for a 300 person birthday party for Shayla, thousands of dollars in gifts and clothing, tuition for Shayla’s school and her nanny fees.

      Tyrese’s ex-wife claims he’s an absentee dad and she deserves more support because he consistently blows off daddy duties — but he says the birthday bash proves otherwise.

      Ultimately, a judge saw things Tyrese’s way — Norma’s child support increase was denied last week.

      Back in 2009, Tyrese was ordered to pay Shayla’s mother a $65,000 lump sum and $6,222.00 a month
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      :tea:

    • https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mKUg9iK7xeU Razz n Tazz n Such :kiss:

      @San on #46 that bish maaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaad :rofl:

    • Matchsticks

      @San

      :yes: I remember all that...she was MAAADDDDD....

    • essenze

      Hmm idk. That's why you have to think long hard about people you are intimate with. My brother was a birth control baby. My mother didn't want anymore kids. Shyt the only thing full proof out here is celibacy unless you are the virgin Mary, which I doubt. Like I tell my little cousins nothing is 100%. Sex is for procreation. Always have been

    • http://www.caboki.com/index.html Man, I just don’t care™

      @RAZZ
      "Man accept the fact that it’s just the calculation of the court with the income at the time being. If folks didn’t have to go thru the court system to make a person pay anything (male and female) it wouldn’t be as absurd.

      Whether or not you’re making the same amount years later is totally up to you (or your employer at the time). That same person can always go back to court to get the ammount adjusted to their current income.

      It also just comes to they type of character the person you laid with has. If they are using the money like they are supposed to and actually working to save just in case a decrease in support happens, folks wouldn’t be so mad. But it’s not always the case with scorned, broken hearted bishes and niccas.
      _________________________________

      :huh:

      This some ol bullchit and you know it. If you don't know it, and believe this ol malarkey, you ain't not better than these hoodrat money grubbing hoes out there. If it was truly about "the kids" it would be a set amount for everyont to begin with. But it's not about no dayum kids. It's an extortion payment to encourage women to ahve more kids. No more, no less.

      Anyone with common sense know these athletes money go down after they stop playing. And rappers and most entertainers too. They have a peak earning time and then it plummets. To ignore that is nothing but robbery.

      And hoes kill me talkin bout "know who you lay with, know who you lay with" blah blah blah. But when a hoe get AIDS from a nigga that's DL, not nair hoe sit there and blame her for not "knowing who she lay with." GTFOH.

      Hoes don't just tell a nigga they stickin him for his paper just like a nigga ain't goin tell you they using you for your puzzy.

    • http://santanasantana.wix.com/artist San ah make ya dance

      Shyt she should've rubbed his feet, made some extra meals or something for a lil while to last longer :facepalm:

    • https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mKUg9iK7xeU Razz n Tazz n Such :kiss:

      Tyrese’s ex-wife claims he’s an absentee dad and she deserves more support because he consistently blows off daddy duties
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      You're getting paid $6,222/mo and got $65K in 09 and he's paying for her school/nannies?

      No Ma'am Pam! You better get your ass a job. Dubb, is she "employed" now? B/C if not.... bish please! :lol:

    • http://youtu.be/5L1tr0PIx20 Alex ain’t never met no Martin LuthadaKing

      I don't understand bc he is always posting pics of him and his daughter. She sounds so bitter. She didn't put in the work so she doesn't get paid!!! Ugh! Go sit down!!

    • Nakeya_J or Keke thanks to Unshake

      This is stupid. So ok the kid was sick. How sick was she? Like flu sick, or I have a runny nose sick? And if the kid was that sick why did she just not let him in so he could see her and he could of left. She called the cops for nothing. SO you mad because he wants to pick the kid up, and if he never wanted to be bothered, you would still be mad. Parents need to learn to work together.

    • http://santanasantana.wix.com/artist San ah make ya dance

      She look pretty with a strong face, that bish couldn't model? Damn

    • Matchsticks

      No Ma’am Pam! You better get your ass a job. Dubb, is she “employed” now? B/C if not…. bish please! :lol:
      _________

      When they first split she was crying foul that she was from another country and only had her mother as family here...she didn't know anyone and had no life outside of Tyrese and wah wah waaaahhhhhh.... :coffee:

    • weFukNorNah

      Shoulda had a baby by a black woman she would have loved to get rid of her azz for a few hrs

    • https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mKUg9iK7xeU Razz n Tazz n Such :kiss:

      @Man So you didn't see the part where I said "It also just comes to they type of character the person you laid with has. If they are using the money like they are supposed to and actually working to save just in case a decrease in support happens, folks wouldn’t be so mad."

      and

      "accept the fact that it’s just the calculation of the court with the income at the time being. If folks didn’t have to go thru the court system to make a person pay anything (male and female) it wouldn’t be as absurd. "?

      You saw what you want bruh :rofl:

    • essenze

      My cousin complains about her trifling baby daddy. Just like I told her he wasn't trifling when he was knocking the bottom of that thing out lol. She knew what it was before she was sleeping with him

    • Matchsticks

      @We Fuk

      I thought she was black... :think:

    • https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mKUg9iK7xeU Razz n Tazz n Such :kiss:

      San she looks like she could be Panamanian she's very pretty :yes:

    • https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mKUg9iK7xeU Razz n Tazz n Such :kiss:

      Essenze- EGGZACKLY!! Know the type of person you're dealing with and you wont have to be mad about court proceedings and orders and etc.

    • http://www.caboki.com/index.html Man, I just don’t care™

      @RAZZ

      I read your whole dumb azz statement. It don't change nothing.
      :coffee:

    • essenze

      Right! It's hard for me to feel bad for most people. There are some cases where a person flipped the script later but in most situations people knew what it was. Shyt aint nothing full proof when it comes to sex unless your not having it lol

    • http://www.caboki.com/index.html Man, I just don’t care™

      @RAZZ
      "Essenze- EGGZACKLY!! Know the type of person you’re dealing with and you wont have to be mad about court proceedings and orders and etc."
      _______________

      :huh:

      :wtf:

      You don't ever "KNOW" someone! GTFOH. Got mothaphuckas get murked by they spouses and chit. I guess that's their fault too cause they shoulda "Knew" their spouse. :eek:

      You NEVER "know" someone. :nono:

    • http://santanasantana.wix.com/artist San ah make ya dance

      I was bout to say people change too when money and children get involved. They get ugly :eek: Either party too :tea:

    • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_S8jrHDNQVE&list=HL1365174233 <–Doesn't Talk To Strangers

      She should have let him see his baby, even while sick :shrug:

      BUT she knows that he ACTS LIKE AH BISH *snickers* So :shrug: She just made her best educated decision :lol:
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      Man, 'child support' is what happens when yall can't come to some kind of reasonable agreement :shrug: Folks should have these convos BEFORE fugging unprotected IMB :tea:

    • Nakeya_J or Keke thanks to Unshake

      You’re getting paid $6,222/mo and got $65K in 09 and he’s paying for her school/nannies?
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      And the court better not even give her another dime. Most mothers don't make that in a month and raise kids just fine. She better get a job and STFU. That money is not for you any damn way.

    • https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mKUg9iK7xeU Razz n Tazz n Such :kiss:

      :rofl: Man I"m talking about the folks who a person knows is dipping in one female after the next or running around cheating :lol:

      You pick and chose what you want to understand round here

    • weFukNorNah

      Not black enough lslh don't count

    • Nakeya_J or Keke thanks to Unshake

      Personally, I think child support orders should be for people who refuse to do, or is only doing when they feel like it.

    • http://santanasantana.wix.com/artist San ah make ya dance

      Personally, I think child support orders should be for people who refuse to do, or is only doing when they feel like it.
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      I agree :yes: Because you do have some that don't wanna no not shyt. Once they get in yo biz, they in there like swimwear :eek:

    • Matchsticks

      weFukNorNah says:

      Not black enough lslh don’t count
      __________

      :rofl: damn...

    • http://santanasantana.wix.com/artist San ah make ya dance

      *do

    • essenze

      Man im talking about baby shyt, wtf lol. I was saying there is never anything full proof. Its alot of birth control babies and my bro is one lol. I personally take consideration when having relations lol. Shyt im on birth control but you never know.

    • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_nAbQogbMOk Buttercup

      Personally, I think child support orders should be for people who refuse to do, or is only doing when they feel like it.
      ========
      I certainly tried the adult route. All I asked him to do was pay for child care since I was in school full time and working. I even gave him the address to the facility. Now he pays twice as much as I was asking him to contribute :coffee:

    • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KPgpRw9tiuM bnatural

      Alex ain't never met no Martin LuthadaKing says:

      I don’t understand bc he is always posting pics of him and his daughter. She sounds so bitter. She didn’t put in the work so she doesn’t get paid!!! Ugh! Go sit down!!
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      From my understanding....Tyrese and his ex have had BITTER relationship for some time now....add the fact that Tyrese thinks that he is a relationship guru :rolleyes: and I can see why many (including myself) are turned OFF by him now....still, something sounds fishy about that whole scene last night....he couldn't even go in to see the child??!?!?

      I don't think it's fair, the child is just as much his as she is the mother's...

    • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_S8jrHDNQVE&list=HL1365174233 <–Doesn't Talk To Strangers

      Nakeya, when I had to file back in the day it was because a mofo continuously yelled "Take Me To CS"

      I could only hear that for like a million times before I had had Enough!

      AND when they began taking that 20% out of his check yo....Oh Boy!!! AND THEN of course he swears and swore that he never ever told me that :wtf:

      Hell, it was alot of money, and honestly I used to give some of it back (or spend it on his other kids), and after a while, I didn't need it :no: and the kiddie was taken care of. Which is my point! Take care of the kids and if you don't you'll wind up in CS court :rofl:

    • ms_no-no

      :wtf: A few days ago Norma was talkin about how Tyrese is a dead beat and now that he wants to spend time with their daughter now she got a problem with it??? She has her priorities all messed up; that is THEIR daughter and they BOTH need to have a part in her upbringing. Norma and Tyrese chose each other so she needs to allow Tyrese access to their daughter.

    • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_S8jrHDNQVE&list=HL1365174233 <–Doesn't Talk To Strangers

      They could have handled this better :lol:

      Now he marching to the court house and ish :rofl:

    • essenze

      Look at it this way, if the person isn't fit to be in your future on a serious tip, why you giving them the goods especially without protection? People are responsible for most situations related to illegitimate children then they refuse to acknowledge. It takes two. Who just up and believe when someone says "im on the pill"? How do you know that for sure? Yeah you don't lol.

    • LadieLeo

      :hi: What's Up Peoples???

    • https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mKUg9iK7xeU Razz n Tazz n Such :kiss:

      San ah make ya dance says:

      I was bout to say people change too when money and children get involved. They get ugly Either party too
      ----------
      Ive experienced this.. but for the folks who be so in love with a person they've known less than a year have a baby then be like "why they acting like that" :lol:

    • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_S8jrHDNQVE&list=HL1365174233 <–Doesn't Talk To Strangers

      Who just up and believe when someone says “im on the pill”?

      <---knows a whole lot of teens who do :tea:

      Mothers tell your sons about these hoes :tea:

    • http://santanasantana.wix.com/artist San ah make ya dance

      AND when they began taking that 20% out of his check yo….Oh Boy!!! AND THEN of course he swears and swore that he never ever told me that :wtf:

      Hell, it was alot of money, and honestly I used to give some of it back (or spend it on his other kids), and after a while, I didn’t need it :no:
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      :rofl: And you good girl :yes: I bet he respect you for that tho

    • http://santanasantana.wix.com/artist San ah make ya dance

      Look at it this way, if the person isn’t fit to be in your future on a serious tip, why you giving them the goods especially without protection? People are responsible for most situations related to illegitimate children then they refuse to acknowledge.
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      :rules: Don't you talk no sense on here. :gossip: Some ppl just like to get it on whenever/ whomever, its they vagina they say #nojudgement :eek:

    • Nakeya_J or Keke thanks to Unshake

      Nakeya, when I had to file back in the day it was because a mofo continuously yelled “Take Me To CS”
      -------
      Well shoot, he told you to take him, so you did. :tea: Don't ask for shyt you don't want. If my little guy's dad stopped helping and doing his part, then I would have no problem taking him to court. What I don't like are people who go to child support court thinking they are about to make a come up. Bytch no. That money is for the kid, and now that you have it, why does the kid still look like he lives under a rock, but you just got your remi done? :blink:

    • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_S8jrHDNQVE&list=HL1365174233 <–Doesn't Talk To Strangers

      San, I was even gonna drop it but he told me not to because his other bm would get more money than she was already getting :huh: (fyi-1st one to file gets the most)

    • essenze

      I hate when "people" make it like a woman trapped. Negro you the one with the dyck so you had a hand in it. Sex makes babies, sex ed 101.

    • http://www.caboki.com/index.html Man, I just don’t care™

      @BUTTERCUP
      "I even gave him the address to the facility. Now he pays twice as much as I was asking him to contribute "
      ________________

      The classic "offer you can't refuse."

      Do what I want or else huh. Aka extortion.
      :coffee:

    • http://www.caboki.com/index.html Man, I just don’t care™

      @ESSENSE
      "I hate when “people” make it like a woman trapped. Negro you the one with the dyck so you had a hand in it. Sex makes babies, sex ed 101."
      ___________________

      No, sex makes PREGNANCIES and women DECIDE on babies.
      Two steps there babe, two steps.
      :coffee:

    • Nakeya_J or Keke thanks to Unshake

      add the fact that Tyrese thinks that he is a relationship guru
      ------------
      Add Steve Harvey to that list, of people with failed relationships but know what to tell other people. :tea:

    • http://youtu.be/5L1tr0PIx20 Alex ain’t never met no Martin LuthadaKing

      @BNatural

      Yeah, his rship guru self can go somewhere. However, I don't think that that should reflect on him as a parent. She sounds like she wanted to be the one to console Tyrese and go off to Dubai with him.

    • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_S8jrHDNQVE&list=HL1365174233 <–Doesn't Talk To Strangers

      That money is for the kid, and now that you have it, why does the kid still look like he lives under a rock, but you just got your remi done? :blink:
      ^^^^^
      Bishes can't even pronounce the names they're wearing and ish :lol: Buying ish they see on tv. They use that money to live like they 'got it' all the while the kids looking a hot mess :nono: ION like that either! :no:

    • essenze

      No judgement at all lol. Its just that a certain person makes it seems that a man has no responsibility if the woman gets knocked up. Shyt even if she lied, which I don't agree with, you are responsible for your own body smh

    • Nakeya_J or Keke thanks to Unshake

      No, sex makes PREGNANCIES and women DECIDE on babies.
      -----------
      @Man are you saying that these women should have abortions? (serious question)

    • http://santanasantana.wix.com/artist San ah make ya dance

      San, I was even gonna drop it but he told me not to because his other bm would get more money than she was already getting :huh: (fyi-1st one to file gets the most)
      ------------
      :rofl: I always wondered how some get more. Seem like the more kids you got you get less too :huh: So is he still on CS or naw? How do you stop it once you get in the system?

    • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_S8jrHDNQVE&list=HL1365174233 <–Doesn't Talk To Strangers

      Man, I just don't care™ says:

      @BUTTERCUP
      “I even gave him the address to the facility. Now he pays twice as much as I was asking him to contribute ”
      ________________

      The classic “offer you can’t refuse.”

      Do what I want or else huh. Aka extortion.
      :coffee:

      OKAY OLE WISE ONE.... Who's supposed to pay the daycare IF she can't afford it? and how? :waiting:

    • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b9uzANiCcyM Long Time Lurker

      Never liked Tyrese. :no: He looks just like the Mrs. mouthy ass nephew. Had to beat the brakes of that cat a couple times.

    • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_nAbQogbMOk Buttercup

      Do what I want or else huh. Aka extortion.
      ========
      Do what I want or pay twice as much as my request? Yep :D

    • essenze

      I hope he isn't implying that @nakeya. That's like saying my mom should have aborted my bro. She took precautions and still got preggers. Shyt aint black and white when it comes to conception

    • Nakeya_J or Keke thanks to Unshake

      @DTTS I'm telling you, it's so crazy. That's what the court should look at, what happened with the money after the parent got it. Do pop up visits. People need to stop being so damn triflent.

    • http://www.caboki.com/index.html Man, I just don’t care™

      @NAKEYA
      "No, sex makes PREGNANCIES and women DECIDE on babies.
      ———–
      @Man are you saying that these women should have abortions? (serious question)
      ____________

      Nope. I'm saying that since a WOMAN DECIDES, she should be responsible.

      If men had a say in the BIRTH or not, they should be responsible. A man can't force a woman to give birth or have an abortion (and he shouldn't be able to). But he SHOULD have an equal right to choose like a woman does with the birth. Not the pregnancy, the BIRTH because a woman CHOOSES to give birth.

      Just like with every other law in the country you are solely responsible for your sole decision.

    • https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mKUg9iK7xeU Razz n Tazz n Such :kiss:

      Butta-back when mr razz and I split all I asked for him to do was pay daycare and pay for milk/diapers every now and then not all the time and to visit when he was off. Folks started acting shady b/c they had some new puss... I hated that I had to go thru the system to get him to pay just for day care but I had to. he ended up paying more than what I asked him to also.

    • IsThisThingOn… :cool: Mic Check 1-2, 1-2

      bnatural says:

      From my understanding….Tyrese and his ex have had BITTER relationship for some time now….add the fact that Tyrese thinks that he is a relationship guru and I can see why many (including myself) are turned OFF by him now….still, something sounds fishy about that whole scene last night….he couldn’t even go in to see the child??!?!?
      _______________

      :cosign: on the "relationship guru" needing to get back on the bus and have a seat.

      now y'all know if he showed up that NIGHT, then that means that "the baby sick" is code for "i got company back there in the room and you shouldn't have called from around the corner cause he ain't have time to go out the back" :nono:

    • http://santanasantana.wix.com/artist San ah make ya dance

      If I was Peter Gunz wife, I don't think I would have that baby or him :eek: #dontjudgeme

    • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_S8jrHDNQVE&list=HL1365174233 <–Doesn't Talk To Strangers

      San, let's say a man earns $10/month.

      BM1: $2/mo
      BM2: $1.60/mo
      BM3: $1.28/mo

      Him: $5.12/mo

      SO, it would be wise not to have so mannie kids OR just take care of your kids so that the gov't doesn't have to divy up your paycheck :rofl:

      #differentstateshavedifferentpercentages
      #thisoneis20%

    • http://www.caboki.com/index.html Man, I just don’t care™

      @ESSENCE
      "That’s like saying my mom should have aborted my bro."
      ____________

      Nope cause that would mean my Mom should have aborted me because she had a boy and a girl already and she and my Dad didn't want anymore.

      I was the "mistake" too.

      BUT, my Dad had a say. If he don't want the baby (or the responsiblity), he should have the right the same way a woman do.

    • LadieLeo

      San ah make ya dance says:

      San, I was even gonna drop it but he told me not to because his other bm would get more money than she was already getting (fyi-1st one to file gets the most)
      ————
      I always wondered how some get more. Seem like the more kids you got you get less too So is he still on CS or naw? How do you stop it once you get in the system?

      ************************
      I was told CS is based on both household incomes and some sort of calculation of some sort.

    • Nakeya_J or Keke thanks to Unshake

      If I was Peter Gunz wife, I don’t think I would have that baby or him #dontjudgeme
      ---------
      I sure would not. Sorry. And she is a damn fool anyway because she said she knew there were other women he was sleeping with. So yall don't worry about babies or AIDS or nothing where you from huh? WTF wants to have babies with a man who already has 5 baby mommas? WTF does that tell you?!

    • essenze

      Nope. Aint buying it. Shyt the moment you have sex you made the decision. Sex was created for procreation. Humans created birth control and used the pull out method, which does not always work. We wanted the pleasure without the responsibility.

    • Nakeya_J or Keke thanks to Unshake

      BUT, my Dad had a say. If he don’t want the baby (or the responsiblity), he should have the right the same way a woman do.
      -------
      So your saying, the man should not have to take care of the baby if he does not want it?

    • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_S8jrHDNQVE&list=HL1365174233 <–Doesn't Talk To Strangers

      Same here Razz, ALL I really needed was $500 (300 for daycare and 200 for whatever bs popped up) I knew that I could handle the rest...

      Oh yeah new puss type situation here too :rofl:

    • http://santanasantana.wix.com/artist San ah make ya dance

      I was told CS is based on both household incomes and some sort of calculation of some sort.
      ------------
      I know in Michigan they make both parties fill out all that and come up with something

    • http://www.caboki.com/index.html Man, I just don’t care™

      @NAKEYA
      "So your saying, the man should not have to take care of the baby if he does not want it?"
      ____________

      isn't that EXACTLY what a woman can do now?
      :eek:

    • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_nAbQogbMOk Buttercup

      Razz, I'm glad Mr. Razz came to his senses :lol: This fool requested a modification because he thought lil butter's expenses decreased (instead of asking me like an adult would), and cs ended up increasing. I laughed until I cried, because I told him it play out like that, but he wanted to be hard headed :hahaha:

    • https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mKUg9iK7xeU Razz n Tazz n Such :kiss:

      Humans created...- used the pull out method, which does not always work.
      -------------
      That shyt's been working for us since June of last year when I quit the pill :rofl:
      .
      .
      .
      .
      .
      But I fully understand your pernt of view. :lol:

    • http://santanasantana.wix.com/artist San ah make ya dance

      I sure would not. Sorry. And she is a damn fool anyway because she said she knew there were other women he was sleeping with. So yall don’t worry about babies or AIDS or nothing where you from huh? WTF wants to have babies with a man who already has 5 baby mommas? WTF does that tell you?!
      ---------------
      She a total fail :facepalm: He told her he didn't want kids either :no: He married you and don't want no kids with you. Nope not me. Not having kids by someone who don't want em and that's me protecting my own a$$. Don't need those kind of probs

    • http://www.caboki.com/index.html Man, I just don’t care™

      @ESSENCE3
      "Nope. Aint buying it. Shyt the moment you have sex you made the decision."
      ________________

      No, men take a CHANCE on one of two outcomes.

      WOMEN take a chance, and THEN make a decision.

      Let us make a decision too. :shrugs:

    • https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mKUg9iK7xeU Razz n Tazz n Such :kiss:

      San ah make ya dance says:

      I was told CS is based on both household incomes and some sort of calculation of some sort.
      ————
      I know in Michigan they make both parties fill out all that and come up with something
      ---------
      Nebraska too :lol:

    • essenze

      Sorry, children didn't ask to be here. If i was a man, im not going to just not care for my child because I wasn't ready or whatever. The child didn't make his/her parents fugg. That's why its so many kids fugged up today.

    • Nakeya_J or Keke thanks to Unshake

      Nope. I’m saying that since a WOMAN DECIDES, she should be responsible.

      If men had a say in the BIRTH or not, they should be responsible. A man can’t force a woman to give birth or have an abortion (and he shouldn’t be able to). But he SHOULD have an equal right to choose like a woman does with the birth. Not the pregnancy, the BIRTH because a woman CHOOSES to give birth.

      Just like with every other law in the country you are solely responsible for your sole decision.
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      Sorry I just saw this. Ok, but I don't agree. The parents of that child should be responsible. If you did not want to have babies with that woman or man, then don't sleep with them, period.

    • essenze

      Amina is just silly because he was dogging her ass out in the beginning rofl

    • http://santanasantana.wix.com/artist San ah make ya dance

      So a chick I work with get her first baby daddy rights revoked years ago. She then finds out she could've still gotten child support from him and she came to me like shes mad about it. Honestly I asked her why did she want anything from him anymore if she wanted him out of the childs life? To me that wasn't right

    • LadieLeo

      :offtopic: Folk in the office walking round on egg shells, grown men watching cooking shows in the breakroom instead of watching the Dunn Trial. These folk lost it with the Casey Anthony trial so I think they trying to play it safe and not play it in the breakroom. We can see the courthouse from certain sides of our building so when the verdict is finally announced if it's during work hours folk go be at the window. It's a ton of people out there everyday already.

    • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_S8jrHDNQVE&list=HL1365174233 <–Doesn't Talk To Strangers

      Ole girl knew to call the cops though :rofl: :rofl:

      They have a really messed up relationship :no: smh

    • https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mKUg9iK7xeU Razz n Tazz n Such :kiss:

      @DTTS/Buttuh- a whole year and a half of the two years was a trip. Had his name in my phone under "Nigga" or "Dude" :facepalm: That last six months was when he got jealous. Guess what he was jealous about? :lol:

    • http://www.caboki.com/index.html Man, I just don’t care™

      @ESSENCE
      "The child didn’t make his/her parents fugg. That’s why its so many kids fugged up today."
      ___________

      No, the reason so many kids are even here to begin with is because the government decided they would extort money from men to give to women to have more kids.

      Women would NEVER have had these kids (or the sex) if they didn't know Uncle Sam would steal the money for them. It's a fact. You can look it up at your own leisure using whatever source you deem "creditable."

      THAT'S why we have so many kids and the prisons are filled and the country's population has ballooned since the 50's (aka the Baby boom generation).

    • essenze

      My view is for both sexes btw @Man

    • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_S8jrHDNQVE&list=HL1365174233 <–Doesn't Talk To Strangers

      But he SHOULD have an equal right to choose like a woman does with the birth.

      OKAY, if they disagree, then what? :shrug:
      Somebody is gonna really get you Man, you better wear two rubbers yo! :yes:

    • Nakeya_J or Keke thanks to Unshake

      isn’t that EXACTLY what a woman can do now?
      -------------
      But both the man and the woman should have to. Not just the man. Not just the woman. It takes two.

    • Nakeya_J or Keke thanks to Unshake

      government decided they would extort money from men to give to women
      ------------
      There are women who have to pay the dad child support. It works both ways.

    • LadieLeo

      San ah make ya dance says:

      So a chick I work with get her first baby daddy rights revoked years ago. She then finds out she could’ve still gotten child support from him and she came to me like shes mad about it. Honestly I asked her why did she want anything from him anymore if she wanted him out of the childs life? To me that wasn’t right

      *************************
      I know the biological parents of my daughter so we'd all be in court together. The judge told the bio dad he would terminate his rights and still make him pay child support. I had to sign some papers saying I didn't want anything or something like that.

    • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_S8jrHDNQVE&list=HL1365174233 <–Doesn't Talk To Strangers

      I already know Razzle :lol:

      Two yrs of mayhem over here :rofl: Then I asked to drop it, because another somebody was helping out, and he said not to because of what I fonted earlier up top :hahaha:

    • IsThisThingOn… :cool: Mic Check 1-2, 1-2

      Ole girl knew to call the cops though

      __________________

      Right. and that's because she had ol' dude over there and she already know Black Ty was gon' turn up if he walked in there and she 'entertaining' company. otherwise, why not let him in to at least see the baby, and then tell him you rather he didn't take her cause she wasn't feeling well? :shrug:

    • http://www.caboki.com/index.html Man, I just don’t care™

      @NAKEYA
      "The parents of that child should be responsible. If you did not want to have babies with that woman or man, then don’t sleep with them, period."
      _____________________

      Why should someone be responsible for something they never agreed to?

      That's like Ford being "responsible" for every wreck of a Ford vehicle because they "gave the car to the person knowing they could wreck."

      Let people be responsible for things they DECIDE on doing.
      A woman ALONE decides whether to give birth, why can't she ALONE be responsible for her decision? Why steal someone else's money because you can't afford your decision?

    • http://santanasantana.wix.com/artist San ah make ya dance

      I know the biological parents of my daughter so we’d all be in court together. The judge told the bio dad he would terminate his rights and still make him pay child support. I had to sign some papers saying I didn’t want anything or something like that
      ------------
      Oh yea that's crazy. Interesting when I heard it. I'm sitting there like ok then why terminate rights. You might as well be in the life, if you paying for them

    • https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mKUg9iK7xeU Razz n Tazz n Such :kiss:

      Some folks is naive y'all... some folks were told they were "planned" unlike the rest of us whose parent's were just fuggin y'all..that's why some folks viewpoint is where it's at. Not at the fact that it could be their parents that were in the same situation but jsut didn't speak about it to them. :rofl: :kona:

    • essenze

      You have a point but that does not apply to all situations. I know plenty of sisters who make way more then their children's father. Shyt one of them get 20 dollars a month. She making very good money. Shyt her daughter just wants her dad to be around.

    • http://www.caboki.com/index.html Man, I just don’t care™

      @NAKEYA
      "government decided they would extort money from men to give to women
      ————
      There are women who have to pay the dad child support. It works both ways."
      _______________

      :lol:

      yeah, and racism is over because Obama is president too. Please...

      We both know a woman paying child support means she either ain't want the child or was very phucked up in the head. An exception to the rule.

      Or will you sit here with a straight face and try and say the law is actually applied evenly. :eek:

    • http://santanasantana.wix.com/artist San ah make ya dance

      :newpost:

    • https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mKUg9iK7xeU Razz n Tazz n Such :kiss:

      the prisons are filled
      ------------
      the prisons are filled because it's a business. :tea:

    • essenze

      Lawd im tired at this point. I have my view and I will respect that you have yours. We never gonna agree but thats cool :-)

    • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_S8jrHDNQVE&list=HL1365174233 <–Doesn't Talk To Strangers

      Razzle,
      An old man told me a long time ago that there was no such thing as a planned parenthood :lol:

      I get it now :rofl: #everybodyamistake :dead:

    • http://santanasantana.wix.com/artist San ah make ya dance

      An old man told me a long time ago that there was no such thing as a planned parenthood :lol:
      -----------
      Girl my bf told me he was planned, I was like :wtf: Who does that. That fool even had his mama let me know. I give him grief about that all the time :rolleyes:

    • LadieLeo

      San ah make ya dance says:

      ————
      Oh yea that’s crazy. Interesting when I heard it. I’m sitting there like ok then why terminate rights. You might as well be in the life, if you paying for them
      *****************
      In this case I think the judge took that stance because he felt the bio dad was signing away his rights just because he didn't want to pay the cs. He didn't have a drug problem like the bio mom and actually took in some of the other kids but was willing to sign this one away. But at the end of the day both parents lost rights for all their kids in the case and I took the one I was getting and never looked back.

    • http://www.caboki.com/index.html Man, I just don’t care™

      @ESSENSE
      You sound like an intelligent young lady. Read the history of "child support."

      It has nothing to do with the child. It was originally only intendeed for married spouses who got divorced so the female wouldn't become a burden of the state going back to the 1800's.

      But after the Civil War, WWI and WWII, the country flat out needed to increase the population. The census was conducted, which showed the disparity between women and men (due to the wars) and they needed a way to jump start the births. What they found was that women would have children without being married... if they could afford it.

      Like I said, research it yourself...

    • essenze

      Back in the day, when my great grandmother was coming up, there wasn't a such thing as a choice. Shyt you playing around in the haystack on the farm and your ass got knocked up, you was marrying that man lol

    • http://www.caboki.com/index.html Man, I just don’t care™

      @ESSENCE
      Oh, there is no other view point. I have facts on my side. You are just speaking on emotion.

      And like I always say, if I could steal someone's money without consequence, i would too.

    • essenze

      I might just do that Man

    • http://www.caboki.com/index.html Man, I just don’t care™

      @ESSENCE
      "Shyt you playing around in the haystack on the farm and your ass got knocked up, you was marrying that man lol"
      ____________________

      Yup. And women knew the consequences so it was rare that they would get knocked up without being married.

      But the US government basically support and champion having bastard children in order to increase our numbers.

      You don't find it strange that the law doesn't place guidelines on how the money should be spent for "child support." :huh:

      It was never intended for the child. It was always extortion from the beginning. But they labeled it "child support" so the general public would be behind it.

    • http://www.caboki.com/index.html Man, I just don’t care™

      @ESSENCE

      Go right ahead....

    • West Coast Chick

      why on earth would this woman want her daughter to grow up without a father? I hope it not for something he did to HER! she's grown, needs to seek counseling and move on! Let that man father his daughter...its too many Black kids that dont have that opportunity and thats sad.
      Little girls DO need their daddy's love and support and she should support Tyrese in every way she could for the welfare and beneifit of thier child.

    • cocoa49

      Typical scorned baby mama. When all those special perks stop and the baby father no longer wants her, she then uses the child as a pawn.