Tamir Rice

More details have emerged about the Cleveland cop who shot 12-year-old Tamir Rice to death at a playground.

Timothy Loehmann resigned from a smaller Ohio police force in 2012 when he was found to be incompetent, "weepy" and "distracted" prior to a firearm qualification session, Gawker.com reports.

According to a letter obtained by the Northeast Ohio Media Group, Loehmann "could not follow simple directions" and "could not communicate clear thoughts nor recollections, and his handgun performance was dismal," Independence Deputy Chief Jim Polak wrote. "For these reasons, I am recommending he be released from the employment of the city of Independence. I do not believe time, nor training, will be able to change or correct these deficiencies."

Polak also believed Loehmann was unpredictable and would "not react in the way instructed" under certain situations.

According to the Northeast Ohio Media Group, Loehmann, who broke up with a girlfriend, "cried often about his personal issue during training."

On Nov. 28, 2012, Loehmann reportedly showed up "sleepy and upset" for a 6 a.m. state gun qualification session.

Loehmann resigned from the Independence force on December 3, 2012.

According to Loehmann's father he later sought employment with the larger Cleveland police force because he wanted "more action" than the Independence department could offer.

Loehmann shot Tamir Rice, who was holding a toy gun, 2 seconds after he arrived at a Cleveland recreation center On Nov. 22. Tamir died the next morning.

Tamir Rice

Public opinion has swayed in favor of Tamir Rice in light of the reports about Loehmann's incompetency.

Gawker.com reader 99Telep?dpr?blems writes:

If this particular guy walks I will not complain if black people decide they want to burn Cleveland to the ground.

It was a 12 year old kid. the 911 caller said that the boy was probably holding a fake gun. Loehmann shoots Rice to death 2 seconds after pulling up in the patrol car.

There is no way this can be justified and if he walks I kinda hope they riot. I don't think it solves anything but I will definitely sympathize with the anger.

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    • http://www.gravatar.com/avatar/db78ef2b213fd6958c1aa6773fe9a6dc?s=80 jeniefrumdabloc

      :facepalm: I was listening to 2Pac this morning... Dude was a definitely before his time ..... These stories are so mentally draining like for real..... I haven't been watching the news. :no: I'm bout to lay off social media.... shyt is depressing... hell I'm dealing with my own shyt ... :no:

    • A.J.

      These stories are so mentally draining like for real
      _________
      :cosign: I don't have the energy. Morning Jenie :hug:

    • LSLH

      Modern day lynching.

    • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xqU4jzOjp3s Afiya says FOH :chase:

      Well he won't be indicted either :wail:

    • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KPgpRw9tiuM bnatural

      We already know how this will turn out....

    • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xqU4jzOjp3s Afiya says FOH :chase:

      We can't fall apart Jenie, that's what they want...stand strong momma, for all of us :hug:

    • kamadiva

      @Jenie - I agree! I look at my son and say a thousand :pray: that he is safe! While I was in Vegas, he had a car accident on an ATL interchange with multiple bridges and overpasses (he was on a high bridge) and stated that when the cop arrived, he didn't ask if they was ok or needed medical attention, but was asking them to give up the DRUGS! :blink: WTF! The car was totaled and you can't ascertain if may be all are ok or that someone did not fall over the bridge?

    • https://www.etsy.com/shop/AMarieNaturals lovezoe

      city of Independence. I do not believe time, nor training, will be able to change or correct these deficiencies.”
      -----
      Population 7100. Think about that. Yet he was hired in Cleveland, population 390000

    • http://www.gravatar.com/avatar/db78ef2b213fd6958c1aa6773fe9a6dc?s=80 jeniefrumdabloc

      Afiya says FOH :chase: says:

      We can’t fall apart Jenie, that’s what they want…stand strong momma, for all of us
      _______

      I'm trying to stay strong in the mist of my own storms.... :phew: the more I read this mess .... the more it feels like the wrong seeds are being planted in my head.... negative seeds .... I need a break from reading a lot of this shyt.... :no: like for real ....

    • http://www.gravatar.com/avatar/db78ef2b213fd6958c1aa6773fe9a6dc?s=80 jeniefrumdabloc

      kamadiva says:

      @Jenie – I agree! I look at my son and say a thousand :pray: that he is safe! While I was in Vegas, he had a car accident on an ATL interchange with multiple bridges and overpasses (he was on a high bridge) and stated that when the cop arrived, he didn’t ask if they was ok or needed medical attention, but was asking them to give up the DRUGS! :blink: WTF! The car was totaled and you can’t ascertain if may be all are ok or that someone did not fall over the bridge?
      __________________

      Sad part is these kinds of incidents have been going on since I've been walking this earth .... This kind of stuff.... is not new.... very wrong, but nothing new ... :no: Chile if I could pack my shyt up ret nah and move to Canada I would.... besides I think my husband is up there :yes:

    • A.J.

      LSLH how have you been? Long time no font.

    • http://www.gravatar.com/avatar/db78ef2b213fd6958c1aa6773fe9a6dc?s=80 jeniefrumdabloc

      Morning AJ..... :waves: then my damn daughter teacher calling me and shyt.... I am not in the mood for the bullshyt this morning.... I went off on my child and damn near went off on the teacher... sick of folks :nono:

    • Vanna is the root of all evil

      Too many stories about this lately. We must be in the last days.

    • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dkcCHR-7FNA Man, I just don’t care™

      SMMFH. :no:

      As I have repeatedly told anyone that would listen, there is no such thing as a good cop. They receive VERY LITTLE TRAINING in comparison to any other professional license. A COSMETOLOGIST requires more training in Ohio. That's in most states.

      They specifically look for uneducated and ignorant officers that can "do as their told" without thinking.
      They have the exact same mentallity as the Nazi soldiers ("Just-doing-my-job").

      If you score too highly or you are too educated, you are automatically eliminated. Pathological testing is only done once (like people never change) if at all.

      NEVER TRUST A COP! :nono:

    • http://www.gravatar.com/avatar/db78ef2b213fd6958c1aa6773fe9a6dc?s=80 jeniefrumdabloc

      Man, I just don't care™ says:

      SMMFH. :no:
      As I have repeatedly told anyone that would listen, there is no such thing as a good cop. They receive VERY LITTLE TRAINING in comparison to any other professional license. A COSMETOLOGIST requires more training in Ohio. That’s in most states.
      They specifically look for uneducated and ignorant officers that can “do as their told” without thinking.
      They have the exact same mentallity as the Nazi soldiers (“Just-doing-my-job”).
      If you score too highly or you are too educated, you are automatically eliminated. Pathological testing is only done once (like people never change) if at all.
      NEVER TRUST A COP!
      ________________

      This ^^^^ Man if this ain't some true shyt indeed ...... :clap:

    • http://www.gravatar.com/avatar/db78ef2b213fd6958c1aa6773fe9a6dc?s=80 jeniefrumdabloc

      I swear I work with some complete dumb azzes :no: If I tell you your justification needs to be signed by the supervisor ... bytch why you send it to me :shrugs: I am so sick of the mess in here .... get off ya azz and take it yourself...

    • A.J.

      NEVER TRUST A COP!
      ________________
      It's sad that I don't trust cops of any race; anywhere.

    • SOTHERNGRL

      @kamadiva did they get that azzwipe badge number cause that chits crazy. I need help and you asking me about some damn drugs. UBISHU. :facepalm:

    • SOTHERNGRL

      Too many stories about this lately. We must be in the last days.
      ****************
      We been in the last days since the first day

    • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xqU4jzOjp3s Afiya says FOH :chase:

      Time to Waste says:

      Saw a meme that said “don’t forget to set your clocks back 300 years”
      This is so sad but true!

      :huh:

      :wail:

      :confused:

      :crying1:

      :pray: for :peace:

    • Matchsticks

      @Man

      I disagree to an extent, I do believe there are some good cops out there, honestly...but I agree that MANY of these cops are not adequately trained or mentally stable. People forget a lot of cops are ex-military who likely are dealing with post traumatic stress on some level...and others come from a long line of law enforcement which dates back to when the Klan was heavily in the rankings...those attitudes have carried over into recent years and there is STILL racial bias that many of them will not admit to...

    • inter_loop

      Two things:

      1. If things are changing then all this is just the quiet before the storm.

      2. Blacks have little to lose. Boycott your churches and instead spend that time in the library.

    • Time to Waste

      This is so sad and we already know how it is going to go.
      We can effect real change in all communities when it comes to law enforcement, but the powers that be don't want that.

    • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dkcCHR-7FNA Man, I just don’t care™

      @A.J.
      "NEVER TRUST A COP!
      ________________
      It’s sad that I don’t trust cops of any race; anywhere."
      ________________

      Nope! You have to know ahead of time, that if they are even hired to be a cop in the first place, they meet the "unofficial" requirement to be ignorant! That's the FIRST thing they look for!

      Someone dimwitted enough not to question what they are told are to actually READ the Constitution. The very thing they took an OATH to defend!

    • kamadiva

      I was stopped driving while black in early Nov. last year (it was about 7pm and dark). I was going to pick up my cousin (which is on the same street as Lil Diva's school). Driving while talking on the phone, I absentmindedly turned into her school driveway (turning as a cop car was approaching from a distance). I made a U-turn in the school driveway, about 300 feet from the street. As I waited to make my turn as cop car was approaching, he turned in the church across the street. I proceed to make my turn and he whipped out to follow me...for about 2 miles, shining the light in my car. He finally pulls me over and approaches the car. He was startled because I was female (had on a baseball cap) and started to stammer as to why he pulled me over. He stated that my car was reported STOLEN. :sideeye: I asked him if he was correct and to run my VIN and registration. He didn't want to do that as the new APD cars have a scanner that can scan your tag. Again - :sideeye: I asked him to re-run the VIN/Registration as I just purchased my yearly tag 2 weeks prior and did not have any issues. He proceeds to ask if he could see my license, which I gave him. He comes back and makes another LAME excuse about my car being reported stolen out of Miami and if I was in the middle of a divorce or had a fight with someone who would make a report on my car :sideeye: again! I asked him how I could get this rectified since I did not want to be stopped again and he said I could come by the precinct and make a report (all while stammering over his words). :sideeye: First off, He did not give me a ticket, arrest me or impound my car...like he would have done if my son or another male(s) was in the car. Again, I asked him how this could be rectified and as he stammered again and handed me my license....I asked for his Badge# and told him I would have my BIL to look into this as he is Secret Service. The guys mouth dropped open. I asked him was I free to go and he just nodded. I drove off... AND yes, I filed a report!

    • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xqU4jzOjp3s Afiya says FOH :chase:

      MAYNE, these sprites in here jumping up and down trying to see who can touch the mf ceiling :smack: what the fukk are these dumb broads on :smh:

      "look, look Afiya, I almost touched the ceiling, bet you can". :rolleyes: FOH wit that stupid shyt :ugh:

    • http://youtu.be/dXBaJfVr9us MisTaken: Loyal reader :champ: and your pastor’s #1 prayer warrior :pray:

      Not that the others stories didn’t but this one really hurts …Probably because it is a minor :(

    • https://www.facebook.com/lists/10150387562179388#!/video.php?v=347882248719363 User Friendly

      We been in the last days since the first day
      __________________

      :lol:

    • https://www.facebook.com/lists/10150387562179388#!/video.php?v=347882248719363 User Friendly

      Boycott your churches and instead spend that time in the library.
      _________________________

      now this makes plenty sense to me. :clap:

    • Matchsticks

      @kamadiva

      I had a cop pull me over with the same excuse...that she ran my plates and it came up as stolen or outdated tags in the system...after I gave her my license and tags that I kept in my glove box at the time (because folks could steal them so easily) come to find out she typed in the plates incorrectly...I had personalized plates and she left a letter off... :facepalm: fugging SPED!

    • Blanche Devereaux

      Man, I just don't care™ says:

      SMMFH. :no:
      As I have repeatedly told anyone that would listen, there is no such thing as a good cop. They receive VERY LITTLE TRAINING in comparison to any other professional license. A COSMETOLOGIST requires more training in Ohio. That’s in most states.
      They specifically look for uneducated and ignorant officers that can “do as their told” without thinking.
      They have the exact same mentallity as the Nazi soldiers (“Just-doing-my-job”).
      If you score too highly or you are too educated, you are automatically eliminated. Pathological testing is only done once (like people never change) if at all.
      NEVER TRUST A COP! :nono:
      .....................................

      I disagree because of my experience. I told yall my gpa is a police instructor. But what I will say is the ones that stand up for what is right end up being punished. My gpa got transferred many MANY a times because he spoke up and finally he just got sick of it and retired. They even put him on the white side of town on PURPOSE. KKK flags and ropes hanging from trees in folks yards. But Old school officers vs New school...there's a lack of quality there. He told me he doesn't understand how some of the people he trained got that far :tea: and will swiftly get them up out of there.

    • https://www.etsy.com/shop/AMarieNaturals lovezoe

      Y'all should read that CrimingWhileBlack hashtag. Man.

    • A.J.

      @kamadiva I hate APD. I loathe really going into the city of atlanta. I've had so many bad experiences but all of the cool places are there.

    • kamadiva

      SOTHERNGRL says:

      @kamadiva did they get that azzwipe badge number cause that chits crazy. I need help and you asking me about some damn drugs. UBISHU.
      ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

      Yes, my son did..said the officer tried to say it really fast so he couldn't catch it, but he like his Mammy...can recall every thang quickly!! He said there was a female, black officer there as well and after my son told the yt cop that he could call an ambulance and that they don't smoke or drink, the female cop asked them if they was ok. He said he looked at her :blink: like BISH die! He filed a report as well. I am so glad I actually taught him to know his rights and he paid attention in US History and knowing his Rights!

    • Matchsticks

      lovezoe says:

      Y’all should read that CrimingWhileBlack hashtag. Man.
      __________

      a very NECESSARY trend, but still made me angry as hell reading it...

    • A.J.

      Y’all should read that CrimingWhileBlack hashtag. Man.
      __________
      Thought it was #crimingwhilewhite

    • https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ybcNSoh8vI4 VDot

      We been in the last days since the first day

      ___________

      :cosign:

    • A.J.

      White folks straight telling on themselves. #crimingwhilewhite

    • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dkcCHR-7FNA Man, I just don’t care™

      @MATCHSTICKS
      "I disagree to an extent, I do believe there are some good cops out there, honestly…but I agree that MANY of these cops are not adequately trained or mentally stable. People forget a lot of cops are ex-military who likely are dealing with post traumatic stress on some level…and others come from a long line of law enforcement which dates back to when the Klan was heavily in the rankings…those attitudes have carried over into recent years and there is STILL racial bias that many of them will not admit to…"
      _______________

      Nope! No such thing as a good cop. Ask any "good cop" about a portion of the Constitution. They can't do it.

      Your well being is the LEAST of a cops duties! THE LEAST! Any cop will tell you that! Their PRIMARY duty is to create revenue through bogus ticket writing and citations! Secondly, their duty is to RECORD crimes! Not prevent, RECORD! Third is to protect PROPERTY! That's right. If you were being attacked on one side of the street and someone was about to burn a car on the other side of the street, the cop is to protect the car first and to RECORD the crime that happened to you!

      They will protect their own lives over any civilians!

      NEVER TRUST A COP!

    • https://www.etsy.com/shop/AMarieNaturals lovezoe

      Sorry it was crimingwhilewhite.

    • https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ybcNSoh8vI4 VDot

      Boycott your churches and instead spend that time in the library.
      _________________________
      now this makes plenty sense to me. :clap:

      ___________________________

      Why? Put on the questioning voice that came along with BF boycott. What will that accomplish? What's the ultimate goal?

      :eyeroll:

    • Milky

      :wave: Good Morning and shait
      aj :kiss: hey babes
      match
      kamadiva
      lovezoe
      blanche
      user
      taken
      afiya :hug:
      almostjetter :kiss:
      mychocolatedrop :lick:
      southern
      vanna

    • inter_loop

      Boycott your churches and instead spend that time in the library.
      _________________________

      now this makes plenty sense to me. :clap:

      by User Friendly on Dec 4, 2014 at 9:48 am

      How far has church gotten you people?

      You can find God in math and science and physics. That's where the real God is. White people have known this for ages. They've just tapped in that God for distruction. Why can't we tap into that God so when can know how to COUNTer thier distruction.

    • A.J.

      Milky :hug: sup baby?

    • https://www.etsy.com/shop/AMarieNaturals lovezoe

      Churches were behind the boycotts and matching a of the 60s, but I'm not getting into this debate. :coffee:

    • Matchsticks

      lovezoe says:

      Sorry it was crimingwhilewhite.
      __________

      :lol: I knew what you meant!

      :hi: @Milky

    • https://www.facebook.com/lists/10150387562179388#!/video.php?v=347882248719363 User Friendly

      you people?
      ______________

      when you say "you people" do you not include yourself?

      :yawn: I grow tired of these convos.

    • Time to Waste

      I got pulled over once and the cop said "this car was seen leaving a robbery" I asked if they reported a infant being in the car or apart of the hold up too. He asked for my paper work, which was all up to date. As he was pulling off I was on the phone with his desk sergeant; took it 2 steps further and went down there with my child in tow and filed a written report. There was NO reason to pull me over, especially since I was driving in the direction of the crime and not from the direction of the crime.

    • http://youtu.be/dXBaJfVr9us MisTaken: Loyal reader :champ: and your pastor’s #1 prayer warrior :pray:

      @Jenie :hugs: I feel you because on one hand I want to hear, research and stand against things like this that happen. As a human being I CARE. But the inundation of it hurts my soul and makes me long for lighter topics. But what I try to tell myself is while I might look for levity in times like this I cannot forget, brush aside or not act just as vocally for things I find heartbreaking or uncomfortable as I would for something off LHHH.
      I think what boggles the mind is when people say stuff like:
      #blacklivesmatter is should be #alllivesmatter: ok they do…. But one group is disproportionately being profiled murdered and killed. By everyone.
      It’s not a race thing ..and if it is about color it’s a blue thing: meh…. I can almost go with you on that one IF the same amount/percentage of unarmed Asians were being murdered by cops as blacks. I agree training and deeper background checks/continuous evaluations are needed but what does that even solve IF they person is racist and has an agenda. Or an preventable fear? Ignorance is very treatable. It’s a choice.
      Here go the blacks with another saying. Ya’ll aren’t doing nothing with these hashtags and pictures: Ok granted faith without works is dead. You gotta do more if you expect change sometimes. But also sometimes just shining light on a situation is enough to motivate or FORCE the right person to make the change needed. It can SHAME them to do and be better. If not for nothing else but to save face. This is our way of communicating. What better way to show and take a stance. The black Friday effort was spread primarily via social media.

    • Matchsticks

      @Man

      I'm sorry, I still disagree...I think over time many of them become a part of the system, but I personally knew of a young cop who died in the line of duty...he was promising but a youngster shot him and the bullet went through his armpit so the bullet proof vest didn't stop it...he died when the bullet traveled to his heart. One could argue that he might have BECOME bad, but many times we never know...a lot of the good cops also try to move up in the rankings

    • Milky

      :yawn: Now the fat sprite bish from yesterday tryin to be all friendly today. Bish you showed yo real azz yesterday aint no take bykes. I am delivert!!! :nun:

    • http://thegameonbetblog.tumblr.com/ Bird

      This is another case that is too murky for my taste. The officer may be crazy as a box of rocks, but the child was running around pointing the gun at folks. They have him on video and it's quite ridiculous. A person who knows about guns might have known it was fake, but I wouldn't have known. I would have been scared to death. The child was setting himself up for a dangerous situation. A cop just happened to be the one to take him out but it could have been anyone.

    • https://www.facebook.com/lists/10150387562179388#!/video.php?v=347882248719363 User Friendly

      Time to Waste says:

      I got pulled over once and the cop said “this car was seen leaving a robbery” I asked if they reported a infant being in the car or apart of the hold up too. He asked for my paper work, which was all up to date. As he was pulling off I was on the phone with his desk sergeant; took it 2 steps further and went down there with my child in tow and filed a written report. There was NO reason to pull me over, especially since I was driving in the direction of the crime and not from the direction of the crime.
      ___________

      what was the outcome?

    • Blanche Devereaux

      lovezoe says:

      Churches were behind the boycotts and matching a of the 60s, but I’m not getting into this debate. :coffee:

      ................

      A lot of church folk now have the sit back and pray mentality. They forget that you have to actually DO something. I'm so tired of seeing people say just pray about it. Praying does nothing without actual action.

    • Blanche Devereaux

      Hey Milky :waves:

    • http://youtu.be/dXBaJfVr9us MisTaken: Loyal reader :champ: and your pastor’s #1 prayer warrior :pray:

      You can find God in math and science and physics. That’s where the real God is. White people have known this for ages. They’ve just tapped in that God for distruction. Why can’t we tap into that God so when can know how to COUNTer thier distruction.
      ________________________
      Actually you can find God Everywhere and ANYWHERE ..He is Omnipotent. Almighty. THE TRUTH. THE LIGHT AND THE WAY. I will not diminish him by saying He cannot be found in the church or that He can only be found in a science or math book. He created everything ..even YOU. So instead of pointing out “where God is not” how about you thank God for where He is and stop airing the shortcomings of humans… i.e. PREACHERS as Him. God did not tell that man to go up there in front of the church and say he was DELIVERT :nono: He prolly read that in a booty juice book at the library

    • Milky

      Praying does nothing without actual action.
      ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
      :cosign:

    • http://thegameonbetblog.tumblr.com/ Bird

      jeniefrumdabloc says:

      I need a break from reading a lot of this shyt…. like for real ….

      ***************************

      This it what happened to me during the Trayvon case. That's why I don't be trying to get all involved in these situations anymore and if it's murky I definately ain't messing with it.

    • https://www.facebook.com/lists/10150387562179388#!/video.php?v=347882248719363 User Friendly

      Bird says:

      This is another case that is too murky for my taste. The officer may be crazy as a box of rocks, but the child was running around pointing the gun at folks. They have him on video and it’s quite ridiculous. A person who knows about guns might have known it was fake, but I wouldn’t have known. I would have been scared to death. The child was setting himself up for a dangerous situation. A cop just happened to be the one to take him out but it could have been anyone.
      __________________

      maybe. maybe not but you are not allowed to say this on the blog. it has been explained that: "the police are professionals and should be held to a higher standard than everyone else in the street/world/universe" :tea:

    • Matchsticks

      A lot of church folk now have the sit back and pray mentality. They forget that you have to actually DO something. I’m so tired of seeing people say just pray about it. Praying does nothing without actual action.
      __________

      I said just last night that I have no more time for the "we all just need to pray folks" ...I'm pretty sure God being powerful and almighty already HAS this...but WE gotta do more work given that this is a SOCIAL issue...

    • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J2SQh007k6U missyJ

      NEVER TRUST A COP!

      ------------

      Never trust a cop, politician (including the POTUS sorry folks), or military man.

    • Gigi26

      Boycott your churches and instead spend that time in the library.
      ------------------
      I ain't boycotting my JESUS. Sorry sir but :stop: with that mess.

      So we gonna boycott the Mosque too?

    • https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ybcNSoh8vI4 VDot

      THE TRUTH. THE LIGHT AND THE WAY.
      So instead of pointing out “where God is not” how about you thank God for where He is and stop airing the shortcomings of humans… i.e. PREACHERS as Him.

      ___________________

      :preach: AMEN

      I think I'ma come back in another post.

    • kamadiva

      @Bird - I agree with what you are saying...but to a certain degree. He is/was 12!!! Yes, he should have known better, but he is still a KID. My godchildren are 12 and 10 and both still believe in Santi and oblivious to the grown-up world they live in!

    • Gigi26

      And FYI, my church protested and walked all the way to the Alexandria courthouse in Virginia. So yeah..so much for that sit back and pray.

    • Matchsticks

      He prolly read that in a booty juice book at the library
      __________

      :ghost:

    • https://www.etsy.com/shop/AMarieNaturals lovezoe

      THE TRUTH. THE LIGHT AND THE WAY.
      So instead of pointing out “where God is not” how about you thank God for where He is and stop airing the shortcomings of humans… i.e. PREACHERS as Him.
      -----
      Girl. :clap: but I don't let nonbelievers get me rowdy. I pray that they come to know how awesome He is.

    • http://youtu.be/dXBaJfVr9us MisTaken: Loyal reader :champ: and your pastor’s #1 prayer warrior :pray:

      @Bird I think you missed the part of the call where the caller said they thought it was a toy gun….
      Also the part where instead of trying to de-escalate a potentially fatal situation (if indeed it was a gun) the officer immediately came out shooting. I don’t know about you but in my lifetime I have seen REAL situation where confirmed shooters in schools , homes and jobs have been talked down and not killed WHILE ACTUALLY ARMED and having already KILLED or injured other victims. This officer was clearly unstable, scary and a FOK BOI and he did not follow proper protocol. He should have stayed at an appropriate distance and not rolled up on the boy like he was ready for a shoot out if he planned on taking him in with no incident.

    • Time to Waste

      #AliveWhileBlack is the saddest chit :no:

    • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J2SQh007k6U missyJ

      The officer may be crazy as a box of rocks, but the child was running around pointing the gun at folks. They have him on video and it’s quite ridiculous. A person who knows about guns might have known it was fake, but I wouldn’t have known. I would have been scared to death.

      =================

      Then you would've left and called the professionals as these citizens did. It is then up to the professionals, whom are supposed to be trained, to assess the situation. The problem here lies in the fact the police pull up and the officers just shoots him.

      If you as a private citizen fearing for your life because a child is wielding a weapon that you cannot identify engaged and shot there wouldn't be any outcry. B/c no one expects you to know better (although if you own a gun let alone, a concealed carry permit you SHOULD know better)

    • Gigi26

      Bird I agree with you to a certain extent. I will not place the death of this child on the child. He should've been taught better. That was the main reason my folks never let us play with toy guns. This goes from WAAAAY back in New York City. Weren't allowed to have any type of gun even water guns. Pops was too paranoid. Even though we were females :shrugs:

    • inter_loop

      You people. As in you people who are currently thinking differently than myself. So what about the 60s. What's happening today and who's on the front line? Not the churches. It's kids and young adult protesting. Where is T.D. Jakes or Joel Olsteen? Paula White. Joyce Myer. You mean to tell me that all can get TV time to promote and market a Megafest. But when the "principalities" the bible argues about clearly is winning these church leaders are no where to be found.

      So yes, you people. Get out the choir. Get off the mother board and spend time in the library putting on the armor of education. And then how you use that education will show how much God is in you.

      Any questions?

    • Blanche Devereaux

      And FYI, my church protested and walked all the way to the Alexandria courthouse in Virginia. So yeah..so much for that sit back and pray.

      ..........................

      And I'm glad yall did. But from what I see of the black church community here, this type of action is few and far between. People would rather sit around and have prayer breakfasts and shopping trips. Not deal with the REAL issues out here in these streets and in their communities.

    • https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ybcNSoh8vI4 VDot

      it has been explained that: “the police are professionals and should be held to a higher standard than everyone else in the street/world/universe”

      _________________

      :no: It's just ridiculous to assume that a child has the mental capability of an adult to make rational decisions.

      Or that it should be noted that if it were a white child doing the same thing, death would not have been the outcome. If you don't see injustice in that, than there's no changing your mind :shrug:

    • http://youtu.be/dXBaJfVr9us MisTaken: Loyal reader :champ: and your pastor’s #1 prayer warrior :pray:

      but I don’t let nonbelievers get me rowdy. I pray that they come to know how awesome He is.
      ______________
      :fistbump: Agreed. How can you preach love and not show it :hugs:

      I think I’ma come back in another post.
      _____________
      Me too fren :kona:

    • https://www.etsy.com/shop/AMarieNaturals lovezoe

      Bird- BUT, when approached he was sitting down. It's obvious it was a child. There was no one around. Cop could have TRIED to approach him, slap him on the head and ask him what's good. If your first reaction is to shoot...

    • Matchsticks

      the officer immediately came out shooting.
      ___________

      that was my issue with this...there was NO verbal exchange at all! no instructions to put the gun down or anything...just got out the car and started blasting! FCUK those cops!

    • inter_loop

      Sorry. I didn't have time to proof read. I'm walking but I think you get the picture.

    • A.J.

      Actually you can find God Everywhere and ANYWHERE ..He is Omnipotent. Almighty. THE TRUTH. THE LIGHT AND THE WAY. I will not diminish him by saying He cannot be found in the church or that He can only be found in a science or math book. He created everything ..even YOU. So instead of pointing out “where God is not” how about you thank God for where He is and stop airing the shortcomings of humans… i.e. PREACHERS as Him.
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      :preach: Taken. First you have to know him to know he is everywhere. There are no limits to where you can find him. :tea: Now you won't find me at a church house butterum you won't find me discouraging people from going.

    • https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ybcNSoh8vI4 VDot

      As in you people who are currently thinking differently than myself

      _______________

      :eyeroll: BOY, BYE!!

      There are some fonts I just don't like. Not that you care, but I thought I'd go ahead and officially inform you :bye: :thinking: I thought we agreed, we weren't the correct audience for you. But like a roach, you came crawling back!

    • Blanche Devereaux

      :preach: Taken. First you have to know him to know he is everywhere. There are no limits to where you can find him. :tea: Now you won’t find me at a church house butterum you won’t find me discouraging people from going.
      ..............................

      :cosign:

    • Gigi26

      People would rather sit around and have prayer breakfasts and shopping trips.
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      See and that's where people should realize they are being misled. :yes:

    • http://youtu.be/dXBaJfVr9us MisTaken: Loyal reader :champ: and your pastor’s #1 prayer warrior :pray:

      If you as a private citizen fearing for your life because a child is wielding a weapon that you cannot identify engaged and shot there wouldn’t be any outcry. B/c no one expects you to know better (although if you own a gun let alone, a concealed carry permit you SHOULD know better)
      __________________
      :cosign:
      I mean why are we all in our jobs and professions being paid for our specific skill set if we are not be deemed as experts or being held to a higher standard??? I mean let’s be real.. Let Miguel and Chipotle NOT wrap my burritos just right see don’t I go off. HE IS A PROFESSIONAL BURRITO ROLLA!! :rules: That is what he get paid to do. He is held to a higher standard. Now if my son go byke there rolling ‘rittos I don’t expect him to be perfect! That what Miguel is being paid for just like the cops. MAKE SENSE? :eek: :hahaha:

    • https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ybcNSoh8vI4 VDot

      Yes, he should have known better, but he is still a KID. My godchildren are 12 and 10

      _____________

      Exactly. It's crazy to me that people are on here with young sons and really can find justification for the cop's actions. That could have been your son! You know they are already slow (and I say that with all the :love: in the world) and to think they REALLY understand the position they're putting themselves in. Ok. Let me guess, your son would NEVER do that. You raised him way better than that.

    • bama_n_jersey

      Me and hubby got pulled over about 7 years ago, driving through GA. Now, it was 2 cars in front of us. One car had tint so dark in it you caouldn't see anything, the other truck was full of sprites. The policew come out of the median and gets behind us. The first car speeds up, the next truck starts tossing out beer cans. So we move to the right lane thinking they are going after one of those cars. He pulls us over becasue "my tint was too dark". Puts the meter on my window and takes it off before it hits the legal limit (because my tint was legal). I'm like you didn't see that car with the black tint or that truck tossign beer cans but my tint is too dark? No Mr. officer, what you saw was my husband wearing his travel attire (wave cap and hat) and decided to pull us over. I ask you to put the meter back on and you won't do it. So he goes and run my plates, everything clean, comes back and tells my husband he is going to give him a warning, but to step out of the car. THIS FOOL DOES cause we aint got nothing to hide. The officer proceeds to ask him if he has drugs on him. Even goes as far to say "I know everybody uses it for recreational use, if you got that just let me know before the dogs get here". Hubby was like call the dogs, and I'll wait for my uncle (lawyer) to get here. Dogs never came because he knows it was a bull$hit reason to stop us. you caould see straight through my car. Then these a$$wipes at work were like "why didn't you all show him your government ID" Umm...we shouldn't have had to, but you wouldn't understand.

    • kamadiva

      @Gigi26 - I didn't let my son play with guns either, including water! But now, we are both licensed, locked and loaded!!

    • Time to Waste

      what was the outcome?
      ------------------
      Sorry I went to read the tweets.

      There was a hearing and I was invited and attended.
      We both told what happened, I expressed how I thought I was being profiled.
      He was "disciplined" and required to take a sensitivity class.
      He also apologized to me verbally and I received a written one from him and the city :shrug:

    • http://youtu.be/dXBaJfVr9us MisTaken: Loyal reader :champ: and your pastor’s #1 prayer warrior :pray:

      @VDOT :crying1: I respect your honesty
      She was like (in Taken3 voice and mannerism) :whistle: I GOT A TYPE…. LOOPY FONT IS THE THANG I DON’T LIKE…. YOU JUST LIVING LIFE… AND LET THE BLOG TELL IT YOU AIN’T LIVING RIGHT :ghost:

    • https://www.facebook.com/lists/10150387562179388#!/video.php?v=347882248719363 User Friendly

      You people. As in you people who are currently thinking differently than myself. So what about the 60s. What’s happening today and who’s on the front line? Not the churches. It’s kids and young adult protesting. Where is T.D. Jakes or Joel Olsteen? Paula White. Joyce Myer. You mean to tell me that all can get TV time to promote and market a Megafest. But when the “principalities” the bible argues about clearly is winning these church leaders are no where to be found.

      So yes, you people. Get out the choir. Get off the mother board and spend time in the library putting on the armor of education. And then how you use that education will show how much God is in you.

      Any questions?
      _____________________

      :huh: boy please. you typed that last line like you just spit hot fiyah :rofl:

      I believe in God but I dont believe church or religion have anything at all to do with God. stop assuming that everyone is less "aware" than your broke ass

    • https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ybcNSoh8vI4 VDot

      :newpost:

    • Time to Waste

      A person who knows about guns might have known it was fake
      -----------------------------
      The man that called 911 on Tamir clearly states that the kid had a toy gun. Allegedly that info was not relayed to the officer

    • http://youtu.be/dXBaJfVr9us MisTaken: Loyal reader :champ: and your pastor’s #1 prayer warrior :pray:

      :huh: boy please. you typed that last line like you just spit hot fiyah
      _______________
      :dead: :ghost:
      I just spit out my water :phew:
      He said that last line like he threw and egg in a skillet and one of ya’ll nuccas was on drugs :eggs:

    • Blanche Devereaux

      :huh: boy please. you typed that last line like you just spit hot fiyah :rofl:
      I believe in God but I dont believe church or religion have anything at all to do with God. stop assuming that everyone is less “aware” than your broke ass
      .....

      :hahaha: :kona: I'm going upstairs

    • https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ybcNSoh8vI4 VDot

      She was like (in Taken3 voice and mannerism) :whistle: I GOT A TYPE…. LOOPY FONT IS THE THANG I DON’T LIKE…. YOU JUST LIVING LIFE… AND LET THE BLOG TELL IT YOU AIN’T LIVING RIGHT :ghost:

      _________________

      I could hang with Taken3. :yes: We would have a great time *flips hair and runs hand over ponytails* :heart:

    • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J2SQh007k6U missyJ

      There are some fonts I just don’t like. Not that you care, but I thought I’d go ahead and officially inform you

      ===============

      Don't you hate when the person you hate says some chit you actually agree with. Then you gotta be all fugg you :eyeroll: maybe you iz smart afterall.... then two days later they font some stupid chit again and you can :phew: it was just a phase

    • A.J.

      Personally my thing with the church house is how the preacher gon say it's a sin to do this.. and a sin to do that... and the preacher son gay as "The Castro" in San Francisco directing every choir and spirit team known to man..just a twirling :nun:

      Church need a new roof..and I'm asking my aunt didn't we just move into this new church last year? She looking at me crazy, I'm looking right back at her ass crazy. I was 16 and knew I could no longer put up with the unknown. I like answers, correct answers and accountability.

    • https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mKUg9iK7xeU RAZZ be like: :tea:

      If they found that his simple sensitive a@@ was incompetent and wasn't worth the training, why didn't they just hand him a pink slip instead of letting him resign? He sounds a lot like this new generation of Airmen coming thru..I have no sympathy for him.

      @kamadiva- your story, it tickles me because just how you explained it he was looking for some trouble. A lot of the times the cops look for things to do because they are bored. To an extent I understand, but most of the time the stops are unwarranted. Just like dude did with you, he had to come up with some shyt off the fly.

    • https://www.facebook.com/lists/10150387562179388#!/video.php?v=347882248719363 User Friendly

      Exactly. It’s crazy to me that people are on here with young sons and really can find justification for the cop’s actions. That could have been your son!
      _________________

      I hope you aint talking about me (I dont think Bird has a son) cuz that is not what i said. :rolleyes:

      Sandra be like imma just leave this post here and watch them fight each other :tea:

    • https://www.etsy.com/shop/AMarieNaturals lovezoe

      I don't even like hubby to wear hoodies. It's sad.

    • kamadiva

      @Razz - He almost made me mad, but I kept it together! RE: unwarranted stops - my son looks at me :sideways: when he wants to borrow my car and I am like NO, drive your Honda. I don't want him drawing unnecessary attention. I hate to think that I would have had to get him out of jail if he was driving my car that night. Young black boy in a luxury car and officer saying it was stolen!