Jay Z

Jay Z's unfortunately named Tidal music streaming app is all washed up.

The aging rapper's plans for a dominant music streaming service to compete with Spotify and Pandora were a bit premature.

From the start music fans demonstrated an unwillingness to pay $20 a month for Jigga's bare bones app.

As a result, Tidal dropped out of iTune's top 700 apps within weeks of its launch. And the app is only averaging 1 million streams per day total.

The abysmal news comes amid reports that Jay Z and his wife Beyonce plan to release a duet album exclusively on Tidal. But their efforts may fall as flat as Tidal's profits.

From Hits Daily Double:

COOL/UNCOOL: Jay Z’s Tidal has opted to ignore the new-artist sector in favor of superstars, and the strategy is not working. For example, it’s believed that Tidal’s total streams average around 1m a day, while individual tracks on Spotify regularly hit that number. Tidal’s top-heavy branding approach, with its emphasis on these older, established acts, simply doesn’t have the currency that Apple has maintained by prioritizing newer acts, having discerned early on that the discovery process is part of the cool factor. How is it that the world’s richest corporation has managed to retain its coolness while Tidal seems to have missed the boat? Not only have the initial Tidal exclusives failed to move the needle, the Rihanna video exclusive on “American Oxygen” appears to have actually hurt the launch of the song, which sold only 19k in its first four days. Deepening the irony, Jay’s Roc Nation is both her label and her manager. Thus far, Tidal is seen by most observers as a big miss.

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    • iWasteTime

      :lol:
      From where now?
      Holla at me when it hits ZMT :smile:

    • Yardgirl

      Jay will be aaight!! :danban1: You win some you lose some! :yes:

    • SummerBaby

      :tea:

    • https://www.facebook.com/lists/10150387562179388#!/video.php?v=347882248719363 User Friendly

      Hits from BET said what nah? :popcorn:

    • whitty hutton

      I give him credit for taking the risk. Some ventures yield positive results and sometimes you take a loss. That's how the rich stay rich...constantly finding new revenue streams. If one thing don't work, try something else. I can't knock his hustle.

    • https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ybcNSoh8vI4 VDot

      UFO - Ohhh this the ex boo who wouldn't give up the D but wanted to come over with his kids. :lol: He want that old thang back. Is he willing to take off his chastity panties? :waiting: you liked him tho :yes:

    • https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ybcNSoh8vI4 VDot

      That Jay and Bey album? :bounce: I need it in my life ASAP :phew: good summer riding music :headphones:

    • WUT IZ A PHD!!! :grill:

      GOOD MORNING YALL! HAPPY FRIDAY :kiss:

      I got nothing for this post...he tried... His hand ain't as heavy as he thought I guess :tea:

    • https://www.facebook.com/lists/10150387562179388#!/video.php?v=347882248719363 User Friendly

      V: yup that one :facepalm:

    • http://www.gravatar.com/avatar/db78ef2b213fd6958c1aa6773fe9a6dc?s=80 jeniefrumdabloc

      :tea:

    • kamadiva

      :listen:
      taking out this time
      to give you a piece of my mind
      but though you think you are
      baby one day you'll be a star
      but until that day then
      I'm the one whose crazy
      cause that's the way ya making me feel,
      I'm just trying to get mine, I don't have the time
      to knock the hustle for real

      :love: this hook!

    • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_nAbQogbMOk Buttercup

      Sometimes you gotta lose to win again.

      Morning Roses :waves:

    • WUT IZ A PHD!!! :grill:

      :wail: THEY SENDING WUT JR TO JAPAN!!! :wail: Where's Zeta I needs a hug!!! :wail:

    • WUT IZ A PHD!!! :grill:

      Hey Butta! :hi:

    • zeta4lif

      (runs in with snot running out my nose mixing w/ the :wail:

      @WUT "commere baby" :hug: (rubbing yo byke)

      :pray:

      OAN HE IS GOING TO LOVE IT!!!!

    • https://www.facebook.com/lists/10150387562179388#!/video.php?v=347882248719363 User Friendly

      So wut bout to hv some lil slanted eye grandbabies? :love: awwwww

      You gonna hv ur very own karruche. Built in nail tech at the house :yahoo:

    • zeta4lif

      @WH :kiss: and :karate: it with dem "choos"
      UF
      BUTTERBOO :wave: HEY YA'LL

      :offtopic:

      @WH went back and read your testimony last night :fistbump:

    • whitty hutton

      #ignant
      :lol:

    • whitty hutton

      That was for user

    • WUT IZ A PHD!!! :grill:

      zeta4lif says:

      (runs in with snot running out my nose mixing w/ the :wail:

      @WUT “commere baby” :hug: (rubbing yo byke)

      :pray:

      OAN HE IS GOING TO LOVE IT!!!!
      -------------------
      :hug: hick up crying....I..am ..gone...miss ..my baby boy!! :wail:

      Ive talked to a lot of marine buds and they said he will love it there. so youre right....but still him soo far awwaaaaayyy... (Drag snot crost the back of my arm) :hug: I don't know how to deal right now...

    • http://www.gravatar.com/avatar/db78ef2b213fd6958c1aa6773fe9a6dc?s=80 jeniefrumdabloc

      Awww Wut :hug:

    • whitty hutton

      Air :kiss: since u snottin n cryin with Wut! :heart: zeta baby!!

    • WUT IZ A PHD!!! :grill:

      User Friendly says:

      So wut bout to hv some lil slanted eye grandbabies? :love: awwwww

      You gonna hv ur very own karruche. Built in nail tech at the house :yahoo:
      --------------------------
      Girl :nono: I told him he betttnaught come home with a "Buy Meh Drinky Girl!" :mad:

    • zeta4lif

      @VDOT :lick: (you taste so goodt early in the "mer'ning)
      @KAMA
      @JFdaB
      :wave: Hey Ya'll

    • http://m.youtube.com/?#/watch?v=RaIuP6s3kUc felinelurker

      Mornin Roses :waves:

      @wut, is he going mainland japan?

    • whitty hutton

      **hands frilly lace handkerchief to wut and a piece of hard brown paper towel to zeta** clean y'alls faces up! :lol:

    • WUT IZ A PHD!!! :grill:

      jeniefrumdabloc says:

      Awww Wut :hug:
      --------------
      :hug: Im feeling some kinda whey!!! I know he's gone be okay..but still dang!!!

    • iWasteTime

      Z4L :blink:

      Awww Wut :hug:
      Your grand babies gonna be on fleek :lol:

    • You is Petty, You is Messy, You is Extra aka TM

      :hi: Good Morning Sexy Ppl. It's Fluck dis shyt Friday!! :yahoo:

    • http://www.gravatar.com/avatar/db78ef2b213fd6958c1aa6773fe9a6dc?s=80 jeniefrumdabloc

      Zeta :happy: Wut Wut awwww whew whew :hug: it will be okay :yes:

    • Unshakable

      @Wut,

      Good morning love :kiss: It hurts at first, but over time it may be easier to be at peace with it. Just allow yourself to feel what you feel and trust the process.

      OAN - Have you seen any good looking Marines? You know the ones that should be in the Marine commercials? :think:

    • https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ybcNSoh8vI4 VDot

      @VDOT :lick: (you taste so goodt early in the “mer’ning)

      *****

      So fugging nassy. You must be tryna wife me talking like that :heart:

    • Vanna is the root of all evil

      Oh ok :tea: rich people problems

    • http://www.gravatar.com/avatar/db78ef2b213fd6958c1aa6773fe9a6dc?s=80 jeniefrumdabloc

      :hahaha:

    • http://m.youtube.com/?#/watch?v=RaIuP6s3kUc felinelurker

      :lol: @shake

    • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_nAbQogbMOk Buttercup

      *blows imaginary bangs* One of my bffs called me because she's in a jam. Her boyfriend stole her corporate card and now she has to pay up or get fired.

      I really want to help. Honey Dip says no. Aaaaaand before folks start talking about how I always allow him to make decisions, the type of money we're talking about isn't anything to sneeze at. If I loan it to her, she doesn't pay me back when she says she will, and I have an emergency, he will have to pick up the slack.

      Long story super brief, I'm torn.

    • zeta4lif

      @WUT they usually don't bring them home but honey when they go to Korea now that's another story.

      You gone on and cry :wail:

      (sneaks and snatches them "STIL-LET-TOES" out yo gravi)

    • zeta4lif

      @FELINE :wave: (ARMY FLAG)

      where is @MILIAN preggers self (that heifer bet not be off today, and I am working :mad:

    • Unshakable

      @Feline,

      Really guhl......us women folk like to look at nice, viable tenderonis as well. :rofl:

    • You is Petty, You is Messy, You is Extra aka TM

      Speaking of Korea, I had Kimchi last night :no: I don't think I'll get it again.

      :hug: Wutt

      Butta that's a tough one :think: do you think she'd pay you back in a timely fashion. And my other question is, how much time is it between the jobs deadline and your dead line? Like can she start paying them and then you help her with the last portion.
      Mixing friends with money is hard.

    • Unshakable

      @Butta,

      Why did her seaux-called boyfriend do that to her?

      How did he even get access to it?

      Can she file charges against him?

      What do you want to do? What decision will sit best with you?

    • http://m.youtube.com/?#/watch?v=RaIuP6s3kUc felinelurker

      @shake, so it wasn't wrong when mr. would bring his young marines over for dinner & I would sneak a peek :shame: :kona:

    • http://www.gravatar.com/avatar/db78ef2b213fd6958c1aa6773fe9a6dc?s=80 jeniefrumdabloc

      Buttercup says:

      *blows imaginary bangs* One of my bffs called me because she’s in a jam. Her boyfriend stole her corporate card and now she has to pay up or get fired.
      I really want to help. Honey Dip says no. Aaaaaand before folks start talking about how I always allow him to make decisions, the type of money we’re talking about isn’t anything to sneeze at. If I loan it to her, she doesn’t pay me back when she says she will, and I have an emergency, he will have to pick up the slack.
      Long story super brief, I’m torn.
      _____________

      If you got it to loan :tea: and don't think it will fugg up yo pockets ... loan it :shrugs: but if you worried bout her paying you back do not :nono: I repeat do not :nono:

    • iWasteTime

      Butter :hug:
      You are a good friend.
      Do you trust and believe she will pay you back?
      To be safer can you give her a 2 payment plan?
      Is she done with that niggah?
      I would help in anyway I can; even if half, to cover your self.

    • zeta4lif

      @BUTTER If he "stole" it like she said, I would press charges on his azz, and not judging your friend but what kind of man will still from someone he loves/ a Corporate CC at that.

      If it's some money you say you may "need" I wouldn't lend it IMHO :hug:

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      iWasteTime says:

      Z4L :blink:
      Awww Wut :hug:
      Your grand babies gonna be on fleek :lol:
      --------

      thats why everybody saying "he will love it" :rofl: he bought to get his fih dolla sucky sucky ON! :blow:

    • kamadiva

      Hi, All!!! :hug:

      Wut - oh....he will be fine, but I know you can't just jump in the car if he calls and needs his momma... BIG :hug:

    • http://www.gravatar.com/avatar/db78ef2b213fd6958c1aa6773fe9a6dc?s=80 jeniefrumdabloc

      Buttercup says:

      *blows imaginary bangs* One of my bffs called me because she’s in a jam. Her boyfriend stole her corporate card and now she has to pay up or get fired.
      _____________

      this seems weird too ... why didn't she report it stolen? :huh: is she trying to look out for this simp or something ? :thinking:

    • https://www.etsy.com/shop/AMarieNaturals lovezoe

      I really want to help. Honey Dip says no. Aaaaaand before folks start talking about how I always allow him to make decisions, the type of money we’re talking about isn’t anything to sneeze at. If I loan it to her, she doesn’t pay me back when she says she will, and I have an emergency, he will have to pick up the slack.
      -----
      If you don't have peace :nono: pray on it.

    • https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gLcvNH5zA_I #missyJSays

      One of my bffs called me because she’s in a jam. Her boyfriend stole her corporate card and now she has to pay up or get fired.

      ---------------

      Agree with Honey Dip :tea:

      Has she pressed charges against him? If she has then the cc company should refund all the charges.. something don't smell right

    • Unshakable

      @TM,

      I agree.....I have done that loaning thing and both times I got screwed. I loaned it to them because God has blessed me, seaux let me help/be kind to others. One I didn't get back and the other I had to talk to her husband who put her in check Boricua style. Seaux now I don't loan what I can't afford to miss. And the understanding as to when I get paid is clear. And it's only a select few with whom I do that. And....that's all I have to say about that. :rofl:

    • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_nAbQogbMOk Buttercup

      Butta that’s a tough one :think: do you think she’d pay you back in a timely fashion. And my other question is, how much time is it between the jobs deadline and your dead line? Like can she start paying them and then you help her with the last portion.
      Mixing friends with money is hard.
      ===========
      I know that she would pay me back- no question, but Honey Dip already said no. Her boyfriend has been taking her through the ringer for about 2 years now, so a part of me feels like she needs to finally learn her lesson. I feel bad for even thinking that, but I'm only human :wail:

    • https://www.etsy.com/shop/AMarieNaturals lovezoe

      @BUTTER If he “stole” it like she said, I would press charges on his azz, and not judging your friend but what kind of man will still from someone he loves/ a Corporate CC at that.
      -------
      :applause:

    • zeta4lif

      @TM :hi:

      WASTETIMEAIRANDSPACE hey mamacita :kiss:

    • http://www.gravatar.com/avatar/db78ef2b213fd6958c1aa6773fe9a6dc?s=80 jeniefrumdabloc

      zeta4lif says:

      @BUTTER If he “stole” it like she said, I would press charges on his azz, and not judging your friend but what kind of man will still from someone he loves/ a Corporate CC at that.
      ___________

      Got that right !!! I would have turned that fool in with the quickness :ban: fugg out of here .... he messing with her livelihood :tea: Unless it's more to the story .... Butter .... You better leave that alone chile :tea: Listen to ya bew....

    • You is Petty, You is Messy, You is Extra aka TM

      Another question, How fast can you get that money back on your own if she can't pay up?
      Is she pressuring you to loan it to her?

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      Butter u gotta help her & then plot revenge against the bf. Would Mr let u tell him no about his friends? :think:

      If she gets fired for that do u think it would be hard to get another job? Are they talking about pressing charges? :bite:

      Her bf needs his ass beat

    • https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gLcvNH5zA_I #missyJSays

      Her boyfriend has been taking her through the ringer for about 2 years now, so a part of me feels like she needs to finally learn her lesson

      ----------------

      This sounding more and more like they balled out on the credit card on his idea and just claim it "stolen" later

    • https://www.etsy.com/shop/AMarieNaturals lovezoe

      How he get access? What she say to her employer? When does the $$ have to be paid back? Can she do am installment plan? What has her BF said? Is that still her BF?

    • zeta4lif

      @BUTTER I think there is more to this story for some reason and a man that will steal anything from you is a :nono:

      sometimes God show us things (IN WHICH HE DOES NOT HAVE TOO) but we just don't want to see it.

    • Unshakable

      @Feline,

      Nope, cause guess what. He had prolly snuck a peek at some female Marines. :rofl:

      As long as it's a quick, subtle glance or a sneak peek as you say...you good. Guys do it too. :yes:

      At least you have Marine es where you at.

      I need to move closed to somebody's military installation.

      Wut, where bout in Japan is your Marine stationed? :rofl:

    • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_nAbQogbMOk Buttercup

      this seems weird too … why didn’t she report it stolen? :huh: is she trying to look out for this simp or something ? :thinking:
      =========
      :) With tears in my eyes. He's in jail already. His mom is willing to cover paying me back so that he won't face more charges. BFF is just trying to get the money back, so she's playing nice so that his mom will chip in. Uggggh, it's 3K. I know she will pay me back, but I'm worried that I may need it before she's done doing so.

    • kamadiva

      @Butter - I agree....it is a tough one.

      If HoneyDip says no, you don't want to bring discord in your house.

      She better report it....and get rid of him. LAWRD!

    • http://www.gravatar.com/avatar/db78ef2b213fd6958c1aa6773fe9a6dc?s=80 jeniefrumdabloc

      lovezoe says:

      How he get access? What she say to her employer? When does the $$ have to be paid back? Can she do am installment plan? What has her BF said? Is that still her BF?
      _______________

      If the card was stolen she shouldn't have to pay it back :shrugs: it was stolen ... seems like it may be some holes in this story .... unless she didn't tell the employer it was stolen by him ... and only told Butter :thinking: and if that's the case.... I wouldn't loan her shyt :nono: she protecting that thief :tea: if that's the case

    • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_nAbQogbMOk Buttercup

      Another question, How fast can you get that money back on your own if she can’t pay up?
      Is she pressuring you to loan it to her?
      ==========
      I'd have it back in my savings in a couple of months. She's not pressuring me, and I know it took a lot for her to come and ask me, so I know that I'm pretty much her last hope. Ugh, I feel queasy.

    • Unshakable

      @ZoeLove,

      You right....same querstion I asked. How did he get access to the cc? :think:

      @Zeta,

      That's what I wondered as well. Whet is God tryna reveal to her from this situation? :think:

    • You is Petty, You is Messy, You is Extra aka TM

      I know that she would pay me back- no question, but Honey Dip already said no. Her boyfriend has been taking her through the ringer for about 2 years now,
      ----
      :stop: DO NOT DO IT!! :nono: 1. You don't want to cause problems with honey dip after your BFF has been being played like a fiddle. And 2. She's been putting up with dis shat!! :no:

    • https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gLcvNH5zA_I #missyJSays

      He’s in jail already. His mom is willing to cover paying me back so that he won’t face more charges.

      ===============

      This doesn't make sense... If it was properly reported, the criminal responsible is in jail, why hasn't the cc company refunded the money? I've never heard of that happening.

    • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_nAbQogbMOk Buttercup

      Butter u gotta help her & then plot revenge against the bf. Would Mr let u tell him no about his friends? :think:
      If she gets fired for that do u think it would be hard to get another job? Are they talking about pressing charges? :bite:
      Her bf needs his ass beat
      ==========
      That's another dimension to the story. If I give her the money (cause it's never guaranteed that I'll get it back), and she starts dealing with this fool again, I'm going to be sooooo bitter.

      I will and have told Honey Dip no about giving money to his family. The situation is a little different since I saw that they were using him, but he wasn't ready to see it.

      Her manager is talking about disciplinary actions up to and including termination.

    • Unshakable

      @Butta,

      Not to put you on front street, but how high of a cost is it to you?

      The reason I asked is this: let's say she reneged and couldn't pay you byke, right? Is the amount enough to permanently end the friendship if she doesn't pay you byke?

    • https://www.etsy.com/shop/AMarieNaturals lovezoe

      Listen. If you feel queasy, :nono: I would listen to HoneyDip. If she don't pay you back and YOU have an emergency, he go to dip in HIS money. What if HE has an emergency? Nah. If you can't go without it, don't do it.

    • You is Petty, You is Messy, You is Extra aka TM

      If his mom Is willing to cover then she should make those payments direct to the company and your friend.

    • http://www.gravatar.com/avatar/db78ef2b213fd6958c1aa6773fe9a6dc?s=80 jeniefrumdabloc

      I say before you do anything pray on it :tea: you don't want your friends mess ... causing friction with Honey Dip either :no: chile this is why these friends can't know yo financial capabilities ..... :nono: hell that way they want ask for shyt ....... they will think to themselves shid JB broke ..... :yes: damn right broke :yes: that I am ..... so you think :wink:

    • http://dan.l@superiorworks.com SugarFoot

      @BUTTER If he “stole” it like she said, I would press charges on his azz, and not judging your friend but what kind of man will still from someone he loves/ a Corporate CC at that.
      ______________
      :cosign: thats whats raising a red flag for me :shrug: Why not report it as fraud and let the bank deal (and they will if its a certain amount) especially since u know who it is :huh: Any who, dont let your friend come betweeen your relationship....Honey Dip said no for a reason :nono: If you do jump out there, make sure you put everything in writing in case you have to sue her azz :coffee:

      CYA (cover yo azz)

    • https://www.etsy.com/shop/AMarieNaturals lovezoe

      f his mom Is willing to cover then she should make those payments direct to the company and your friend.
      ----
      :yes:

    • http://m.youtube.com/?#/watch?v=RaIuP6s3kUc felinelurker

      @butter, if you've told him no about lending money, then that's a no :no:

    • whitty hutton

      No... :hailnaw: ...jess plain NO!!

      I don't loan money anymore. I give it if I can, and if the person pays me back fine; if not fine. Now I don't tell them that but that's my mindset about lending/giving money to folks.

    • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_nAbQogbMOk Buttercup

      unless she didn’t tell the employer it was stolen by him … and only told Butter :thinking: and if that’s the case…. I wouldn’t loan her shyt :nono: she protecting that thief :tea: if that’s the case
      ==========
      :wail: Lawd Jenie, I think this is the truth. We normally don't keep things from each other, but I think she omitted some stuff.

    • zeta4lif

      @UNSHAKE He trying to tell her "dat nigga ain't for u" :rofl:

      hell if he steal.... He'll kill
      and then u letting me know you don't give a "phuck" about me from stealing from me period,

      Whet he buy though, that's the question

    • WUT IZ A PHD!!! :grill:

      :newpost: guys

    • https://www.etsy.com/shop/AMarieNaturals lovezoe

      How good if an employee is she? Because if she said it was stolen, then they would have reported it as such. Has she had issues at work before?

    • http://dan.l@superiorworks.com SugarFoot

      Morning Yall :wave:

      *pulls out prayer cloth and cleans Wuts nose* He will love Japan, wait till he starts sending you pics :yes:

      Stop leaving snot on the blog :rofl:

    • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_nAbQogbMOk Buttercup

      This doesn’t make sense… If it was properly reported, the criminal responsible is in jail, why hasn’t the cc company refunded the money? I’ve never heard of that happening.
      ===========
      He's not in jail because she reported it. It's on unrelated charges (what those are, I dunno, but a quick google search with tell me).

    • whitty hutton

      She can set up a payment plan with her employer, prolly get written up bit at least she'll still have her job.

      I agree with others who've said somethin in the milk ain't clean with this story. If her player believes the card was stolen then the money doesn't have to be repaid. If the company believes she/her sorry ass nigga used the card then she should offer to pay it back over a period of time and cut that nigga loose.

      Where chicks be findin these bum ass niggas at?? And why do they "go through it" with them for so long??
      See...the way my tolerance for bullshyt is set up... :nono:

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      Fugg that, im not leaving my friend hanging. But who she gotta pay back? The credit card company or her job?

      If they gonna fire her anyway then fugg em. :shrugs: but i would not let my friend get in a worse situation or shyt on her when she already down. Ion care what da lawd tryna teach her.

      Is she ur best friend or just somebody u cool with? I think u asked honey dip cuz u knew he would tell u no. Subconciously :yes:

    • zeta4lif

      Alright let me knock this last "lecture" out and then I'm out this *bish*

      @BUTTERBOO If u are torn about it, and getting the bubble guts too

      :radio:

      GOD IS TRYIN TO
      TELL U SOMETHIN!!!

      Have a great Friday Roses and @SANDRA :peace:

    • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_nAbQogbMOk Buttercup

      Where chicks be findin these bum ass niggas at??
      ==========
      The internet :cry:

    • https://www.facebook.com/lists/10150387562179388#!/video.php?v=347882248719363 User Friendly

      The internet? :facepalm: lawdt

    • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_nAbQogbMOk Buttercup

      s she ur best friend or just somebody u cool with? I think u asked honey dip cuz u knew he would tell u no. Subconciously :yes:
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      She's my ace boon coon. We met in college and have been down like 4 flat tires since. I asked Honey Dip because we both used to make major decisions like this without consulting the other first. He broke it down to me: if what I do potentially falls on him, he has to be included in the decision making process and vice versa.

      If she doesn't pay me back, or I have an emergency next week, he's going to have to throw me some money and I'm not even trying to go through that.

    • Lady_L

      whitty hutton says:

      I give him credit for taking the risk. Some ventures yield positive results and sometimes you take a loss. That’s how the rich stay rich…constantly finding new revenue streams. If one thing don’t work, try something else. I can’t knock his hustle.
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