TV's #1 rated soap opera musical, Empire, returned last night to mixed reviews.

Most reviewers are bought and paid for by Fox TV, so their reviews are unreliable. The more honest reviews can be found on social media where most viewers panned the show's script as overdone and over-the-top.

Season 2 opened with a flurry of pointless cameos by pop culture notables such as Vogue's Andre Leon Talley; activist and radio host Al Sharpton; CNN anchor Don Lemon;.singer Kelly Rowland; and RHOA alum Miss Lawrence doing his best Sylvester impersonation.

Most of Empire's female (and gay male) viewers raved over Trai Byers' newly chiseled body, while the rest of us fell out laughing at Grace Gealey's pathetic twerking.

Oddly, the show's new writers brought in comedian Chris Rock for a 1 episode turn as a jailhouse cannibal; and actress Marisa Tomei (My Cousin Vinny and A Different World) as a lusty lesbian businesswoman.

After shamelessly hitting on Cookie (Taraji P. Henson), Whiteman beds Boo Boo Kitty (Gealey) who joined Cookie in a failed attempt to wrest control of Empire Records from the imprisoned Lucious Lyon (Terrence Howard).

Tomei's lusty lesbo character was overkill and unnecessary.

Also overkill and unnecessary was Jamal's (Jussie Smollet) singing. At times he sounded like a cross between a strangled cat and a billy goat.

Despite the show's numerous flaws, Empire garnered a a near-record 16 million viewers in the coveted 18-49 age demographic last night. That's 1 million less viewers than last season's Empire finale. The ratings drop is sure to be bad news for the show's advertisers who already dished out $650,000 for a 30-second commercial spot on upcoming episodes.

Watch the full episode below, courtesy of DDotOmen.com.

  • E-VannaRootsAllEvil

    At times he sounded like a cross between a strangled cat and a billy goat.

    ----
    agreed to the damn fullest

  • nucynu25

    I don't know how to feel abt this episode.

  • E-VannaRootsAllEvil

    The whole having a movement for Lucious being in jail was over the damn top too. Wtf cookie coming out like a monkey talking like the movement was for tray von Martin or something

  • Beyawnce

    Overkill is a good word for the show now.
    Just too much going on and too many cameos lol

  • lil goodie

    I missed it...New job is already taking it's toll..very little cell phone service..pc on LOCK...they ain't playing....guess I will try to watch above for a few...I'm in a corner at work with 8% service..smh

  • Beyawnce

    Wait did ya'll see Boo Boo Kitty twerkin' or whatever it was she was attempting?

  • Jen_n_juice

    They are starting to do the most with this show. I hope it doesn't go downhill

  • http://theempirefiend.tumblr.com/ Bird

    I liked it. Only the first segment was bad for me. You know I'm die hard so I wasn't surprised by the new Jamal because he started that transition last season. Outside of the dumb first sequence they totally overdid the gay thing. I pray that they get that in check. We already have Frank's daughter who will have a major storyline as a butch teen rapper. Not to mention Teyana who is bi. Everyone isn't gay so I wish they would chill with the unrealistic number of gay characters.
    *
    You no likey my recap Sandy? Is it ok if I post it in the comments?

  • Just Keya

    Did yall see Peety Pablo with his cameo? I thought yall said he was locked up?

  • http://sandrarose.com SandraRose

    I agree. The whole show was off. It seemed like the show's writers are schizophrenic and bipolar.

  • Full Monty

    OMG it was the FIRST episode LOL! Folks have no patience.

  • Just Keya

    I think (JMO) in the industry it's more gay people than we think though. HOWEVER, all the gay activity was a turn off for me. I will still watch. Hope Ms. Lawrence won't be back. ugh.

  • scentsychick30

    Man that monkey in a cage had me ??I'm so tired of dre and his wife already. It was over the top but will watch again.

  • Full Monty

    LOL Ms. Lawrence was on her Sylvester stuff (see i'm showing my age here)!!!!!!!!

  • http://theempirefiend.tumblr.com/ Bird

    I actually loved his little part.

  • Just Keya

    OMG Dre and his wife IRK MY SOUL! Especially her!!!!! Little witch. Don't worry, they gonna find out about her soon enough. She is soooooooo annoying. When she said the comment about the kids playing, I wanted to slap the shyt outta her. Girl you are only an in law. Shut your mouth.

  • Full Monty

    No I didn't see him at all and I thought he was in jail too!

  • Zizzle

    Anyone who puts 'Empire' over 'Power' isn't playin' with a full deck.

  • jeniefrumdabloc™

    Chile that gif though ... rofl

  • SpillyNillie

    That red lipstick tho!

  • http://www.tiffanyinthecity.wordpress.com/ Tiffanyinthecity

    Too many celebrity cameos. It's starting to look "gimmicky".

  • scentsychick30

    Boo boo kitty should've said no I will not dance in public??

  • Full Monty

    Me too but he too much but that makeup on fleek though!

  • http://theempirefiend.tumblr.com/ Bird

    Who mentioned Power and why? We're talking about Empire.

  • E-VannaRootsAllEvil

    The previews weren't even good enough for me to want to tune in on anymore.

  • Just Keya

    Child, IG had him plastered up last night. I was cracking up. He was in jail with Luscious.

  • Just Keya

    Girl.

  • jeniefrumdabloc™

    Ya'll can have empire ... but my god .... chile that post last night had me in damn tears this morning

  • http://theempirefiend.tumblr.com/ Bird

    IJS

  • Full Monty

    I missed that part gotta go back and watch. I was disappointed in Chris Rock like WTF is going on with his acting lately. He need to go back to his wife chile!

  • jeniefrumdabloc™

    At times he sounded like a cross between a strangled cat and a billy goat.

    ___________

  • Just Keya

    I want to know the following so I will have to tune in:
    *Does Naomi come back?
    *Do they finally drag Dre's wife?
    *Do they find out that Dre and the wife killed the guy from New York Undercover? (I forget his name on the show)
    *Do Boo Boo Kitty get back with Luscious?
    *Does Luscious get back with Cookie
    *Is Jamal gonna be an ass the whole season?

  • Zizzle

    I did, and who are you, one of the blog owners lieutenants? I noticed you begging for her permission to post your recap below. :help:

  • scentsychick30

    Yes she irked my soul,I was hoping for less of their scheming?and instantly thought send her home.

  • SpillyNillie

    They do go a bit overboard with the gay scenes. I wish everyone would give the gay agenda a break. I don't need to see two men tongue each other down on prime time tv to know that homosexuality is sociably accepted. I can just pick up the phone and listen to my gay friends tell me about their weekend escapades...

  • Just Keya

    I liked his 2 second seriousness. Nice to see he can do something other than be the funny one. I wish he would not of died already, but maybe he will be in flash backs.

  • Full Monty

    His name was Vernon and I am disappointed that they killed him off so soon and I hope Jamal don't act like this the whole season I wanted Cookie to punch him instead of that slappin.

  • Just Keya

    YESSS Cookie was mad as hell. I said in another post that Luscious did not want anything to do with your simple ass, until Cookie picked you up, and dusted your confidence off. Now here you come all high and mighty. Talking about get out. I would of punched his ass and told him to make me. smdh.

  • Sincerity7

    That gorilla suit thing was super unrealistic. Like Cookie was going to mess up her hair bun or her peacock dress for that costume. And then the part where the assistant couldn't give Cookie a message because she had to boo-boo???

  • Full Monty

    IDK I just wasn't feeling Chris Rock like to me he wasn't believable. Like a gangster really. I laughed so hard! All I could remember was Pookie!

  • Pooh

    i just hope that parents are shielding their kids from all the BS that come with this show. If i see one more man kiss another man im going to lose my mind. Are all of our men gay? It sure seem like thats what they are portraying. Black folks run everything into the damn ground. #smh

  • Just Keya

    But the assistant has always been a dummy. I was annoyed by that though

  • Buttercup

    sooot! sooot!

  • Just Keya

    Pookie?! DEAD. hahahahaha. Truth be told as soon as I saw DeRay I was instantly IRKED. I can't stand him! I was glad Chris Rock killed his simple self

  • Buttercup

    Won't he will!

  • Str8tUpMenace

    I just need to know WTF thought it was a good idea to cast Chris Rock as a damn hardcore "G"??????????????????????????? I LMAO at all of his scenes

  • MotherOfDragons, GetOffMyENuts

    I want to know the following so I will have to tune in:
    *Does Naomi come back? NO
    *Do they finally drag Dre's wife? NO
    *Do they find out that Dre and the wife killed the guy from New York Undercover? (I forget his name on the show) IT GETS FOUND OUT AND USED TO CONTROL THEM.
    *Do Boo Boo Kitty get back with Luscious? NO
    *Does Luscious get back with Cookie? POSSIBLY
    *Is Jamal gonna be an ass the whole season? HE WILL BE UNTIL THE LAST TWO EPISODES

    Those are my predictions.

  • Str8tUpMenace

    And WTF what up with Lawrence being casted???????? I was ready to quit the damn show!!!!!!!!!!!

  • Just Keya

    I do not like Ms. Lawrence. Never have, never will. He is irking as hell.

  • Full Monty

    I know every time I see DeRay he just cracks me up. I can't take him seriously.

  • Just Keya

    I hope you are right on everything but one thing. I want them to drag the wife.

  • Str8tUpMenace

    That struggly azz chit!!!!!!!!!!! #idied

  • Str8tUpMenace

    ^^^^^^^^^^^THIS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • Full Monty

    You and me both! I was like man are they serious with Pookie being a G!

  • Str8tUpMenace

    I *fainted* every time Chris Rock's azz got camera time. Chit was hilarious

  • Buttercup

    The show comes on at 9pm EDT, so I'm going to say that most kids who can't quite understand homosexuality are in bed by that time.

  • Str8tUpMenace

    "You can't even dyke right" <------ quote of the damn evening. *dead*

  • Str8tUpMenace

    AS HELLLLLLLLLLL, Honey!!!!!!! Ugh!!!!!!!!!!!!! I saw his big azz laid out on that table with that red lipstick, and immediately had a WTF moment????????????????

  • Chitsngiggles

    They filmed this at Washington Park, right by my house!

    And "You cant even dike right" stole the fukking episode....

  • harley_quinn2.0

    RHOA alum Miss Lawrence doing his best Sylvester impersonation.

    ................
    Here comes Sandra with the ???

  • Pooh

    Nah not while on fall break like THIS week. Not to mention he's 9 & very aware of things

  • Chitsngiggles

    Girl I was like yaaaasssssss, slap his ass again. He needed a double slapping...

  • MissHarlem

    I was over this show before it started last season. Toooo much hype, celebrities, etc. It over shadows the plot of the show ?

  • Str8tUpMenace

    He cried like he got slapped in front of everybody in high school. LMAO

  • Full Monty

    Right then he closed the door on her I was like see that's why she should have left your ungrateful self in the garbage.

  • Shay

    I swear I said the exact same thing this morning ?

  • Chitsngiggles

    I think they toned it down as much a they could.....it wasnt AS all over the place as it was last season.

    I give it another season and it will be off the air. I dont see it continually peeking to the top. I feel like some sort of scandal is going to bring this show down as soon as white folks get tired of it doing better than their shows. Somebody's scandal will be leaked, just watch...

  • iWasteTime

    This was the best part of the show last night and Lucious' Kiser Sosa at the end 1..

  • E-VannaRootsAllEvil

    He actually did a great job

  • nucynu25

    1) I hated the gorilla scene
    2) I understand that gay ppl are here to stay but damn I can't watch TV with my baby without 2 men kissing
    3) I love & hate Cookie & Lucious relationship. He will not let anyone play with her
    4)am glad Jamal got smacked
    5) I hated that lesbo character
    6) BooBoo Cat how have you manged to become so desperate? Isn't your father a rich doctor? Why are you acting like you need empire,

  • MissHarlem

    Yup that's their thang. A scandal for sure

  • MissyJ

    I enjoyed it.. It was a little boring but I was watching with friends and I was missing ish. When I rewatched on Hulu I liked it better... I know these celebrity cameos are costing a grip but DAYUM can we not resovle every crisis in an hour episode. They could dragged out Chris Rock for 2 weeks but I see that's Lee Daniels vision for the show so I MINE as well suck it up.
    Jeffrey Dahmer was a scrawny lil fella too so i guess I buy it. When you tiny you gotta be scurry some other way rofl...
    I give it a solid 7.

  • AllmylifeIhadtofight

    Naomi is coming back

  • Just Keya

    In the order that you have them numbered:
    1)I could of done without it
    2)My baby can't watch that. I sent him to bed at 8:30
    3) Me too!!!!! He is not playing when it comes to her at all. And she knows it.
    4) Me too!!! He deserved (momma d voice)
    5) me too. Where did she come from?
    6) She a hoe fo sho.

  • MissyJ

    Oh and when Mal tried to break down after he closed that door.... My cousin hit it with the Chris Tucker "He gon cry in the car" I died........
    I think Jamal has a bigger plan in play than just be Lucious lil flunky....

  • Str8tUpMenace

    Did they really have to have Hakeem tell Jamal that "he was telling Mommy?"

  • Just Keya

    And if she does, why is Boo Boo Kitty gonna do?

  • ShelbyMoore

    What's up with the gay shat? They need to just tell me early if it's gonna turn into an all gay cast so I can jump ship. The bi, gay, tranny mess is sickening.

  • Just Keya

    YES! I loved that. He finally accepted her.

  • Just Keya

    I sure hope so. Lucious is just using him. Jamal is a means to an end for Lucious. SO Sad.

  • Luv Pitties

    The family is going to find out about both her and Dre. It's over for them when they find out about Vernon.

  • ShelbyMoore

    Knowing Lee's nasty as$ he was probably telling Malik to kiss a man and pretend he's fawking azz and Malik told him heyl nah, so Lee killed him off the show.

    I was like how come the young son had his azz beat like that and Jamal only got two slaps, really? I swear Lee wants to Jamal to be the gay superhero so bad.

  • AllmylifeIhadtofight

    I don't think she's serious about Hakeem. They just used each other to get back at Lucious

  • Str8tUpMenace

    The scenes are wayyyyyyy too much for my virgin eyes. I damn sure did not need my gay p0rn cherry gettin popped cuz it was aired on prime time tv.

  • Readytochokemothernatureonout

    I missed half of it laughing on here. I didn't care for it last night.

  • Chitsngiggles

    I liked how they low-key showed Hakeem smoking an blunt in front of his mama. I thought Cookie was gonna hit the weed. I would have died. LOL

  • Luv Pitties

    Is Jamal's boyfriend new or the same one he broke up with from last season? The one that was in cooking school.

  • Just Keya

    THIS is what I am waiting for. I do NOT want them to get away with it.

  • MissyJ

    Of course! It's the subtext. He wants to run EMpire so badly but he's just not ready. Not focused, can't stand on his own.. plus he is finally taking to Cookie. I noticed ALL of the boys were calling her Mom this season. Last season Dre called her Cookie and Jamal called her Cookie when talking to his brothers.

  • ShelbyMoore

    Like the straight up bih he is.

  • Luv Pitties

    +1

  • Just Keya

    I don't know, I was wondering that too.

  • Str8tUpMenace

    I was sooooooooooo hoping that Cookie or Carol heard that bish talking chit about the kids playing.

  • AllmylifeIhadtofight

    Ok cause maybe you can help me out.. When Chris and Deeray were sitting at the table it looked like Deeray eye and parts of face was gone. Was that what Chris was eating?

  • AllmylifeIhadtofight

    Same one that broke up with him.

  • Just Keya

    Ewww was it?! I though he just had a black eye. Ugh

  • MissyJ

    YES! Did you notice the blood on his bib? I didn't catch that until i watch it the second time

  • Just Keya

    Me too!!! She is too...extra. She runs nothing but Dre, so she might want to calm her simple ass down

  • AllmylifeIhadtofight

    I thought so!!! I was like that's why he said I'm hungry... And what the hell did Cookie say? I thought she was speaking Pig Latin when she was talking to Lucious.

  • Just Keya

    lol lol. now I have to watch it again

  • Angela

    Agree. It was way off. And the 6 month wait to see it again made me lose some interest.

  • Str8tUpMenace

    And that's what made it funny when his azz said it. How you wanna run a business, but you gon tell on somebody?

  • Angela

    ???? A mess. And she's from the islands so she should have killed it.

  • Buttercup

    Yep, that's Dora.

  • E-VannaRootsAllEvil

    The writers better straighten up or everyone gon be back to Olivia pope full time

  • ShelbyMoore

    Right...men forcefully kissing each other is stomach turning.

  • Buttercup

    My kid can't stay up much past 8 o'clock even on the weekends, so *shrug*

  • Currently

    I can barely follow Empire ..It all over the place ,but Power I can not wait .I will give it a second chance .

  • MissyJ

    and Just Keya Imma follow suit

    1) Nope. Not needed

    2) My baby in bed as well and wouldn't have her watching it regardless

    3)I wanted him to call Cookie his Baby Mama when he was talking to Chris.. instead of saying I love Cooke or I love Cookie that's my baby mama.. don't ask me WHYYYYY

    4) She shoulda went with a back hand... #whatwouldcookiedo Hakeem got whooped it a broom for not turning off his music fast enough... I mean dang that's favoritism like a mugg

    5) I Love Marisa tomei, they coulda done so much more with an actress of her caliber.. and that lesbo party they threw was weak. I would signed up for Lucious too lol

    6)Her parents prolly cut her off... Can't add up how Boo Boo kitty twerk had to much back when she got no back

  • Aanelove

    Well I loved it! #ijs

  • PettyEyezPrime

    Olivia Pope people better get their writing together. That kidnapping BS pissed me completely off. I miss her fixing things. B613 straight took over.

  • nucynu25

    I thought Cookie was going to snap when she was like "Why the hell are we here?" I was waiting for Cookie to be like look here Lil bish

  • Sassy24

    Both shows are crap. Your point?

  • AllmylifeIhadtofight

    Agreed. Last season was real blah to me..

  • nucynu25

    I think bc Cookie was hurt. When she beat Hakeem she was angry.

  • harley_quinn2.0

    I binged watched season 4 of Scandal on Netflix and that kidnapping was the pitts. Overall season 4 wasn't bad.

  • AllmylifeIhadtofight

    3. Ain't they still married or did they get the divorce?

  • missmiami305

    Never could get into Empire or Scandal. Too much overkill

  • missmiami305

    I did see that part. Lmao!

  • http://www.hushvisionfilms.com Mr718to404

    Last night was a little over the top, but the preview for the season, really seems like they are going full COONERY #uncleruckussaveus

  • Just Keya

    Is Lucious gonna get out of jail and get his conk back? Or naw?

  • Full Monty

    Yeah something definitely happened because they killed him off too quick and Malik had no idea he was getting killed off.

  • MissyJ

    Off Topic... I tried to watch Rosewood and Minority Report.... SUCKED!!! Minority report was too hard to follow and the writing and Morris Chestnut's b-hole character were instant channel changers... I see FOX is trying to be the UPN of black led drama... I don't think they have a Kelsey Grammer on their team tho

  • harley_quinn2.0

    His Jackie Wilson do need to stay gone

  • Full Monty

    True but watching Morris shirtless that was enough for me LOL!

  • MissyJ

    No he divorced her while she was in jail

  • harley_quinn2.0

    I didn't watch but from the previews the Morris Chestnut show reminds me of House Idk why.

  • MissyJ

    i missed that... whale I guess I can watch it... tee hee

  • http://www.hushvisionfilms.com Mr718to404

    did you see minority report the movie? If you didn't it would of been hard to follow.

  • http://www.hushvisionfilms.com Mr718to404

    empire

  • MissyJ

    I liked House! House was different, House was just a jerk. Morris was trying to be smooth and a jerk, so it came across more as I'm can be a jerk cause I sexy not because I'm smart and always right.. I mean the name of his lab is Magic City Lab..............

  • No ma’am

    I don't watch (couldn't get past ep 1, it's corny to me) but judging from what I've heard about it...wasn't this show always over the top? I thought that's what yall liked about it.

  • nucynu25

    I loved that part . That's how brothers are, & Hakeem is a spoiled brat so of course hes going to tell.

  • Readytochokemothernatureonout

    I had noticed that when I bought the soundtrack. Last night made it crystal effin clear.

  • MissyJ

    Yep, I own it (back when i still like Tom Cruise lol) which I why was excited for the show, despite Megan Good. It does not continue the Minority Report legacy well

  • Naptastical

    I thought it was just me. I was cracking up!! Smh, try again

  • Tammie Reed

    It was ok, could have been better, didn't really care for ALL the cameos though geesh! #OVERKILL I give this show one more season and thats it!

  • Cricket404

    Lee Daniels done lost his mind. He, like Tyler Perry, like to brew suspense then get a case of ADD and move to fast beyond it without the consequence. We heard about Frank all last season, then he introduces us to the the character, then boom he's dead, killed that storyline in 10 minutes. Tyler did that with Candice and the assets recovery guy, just bam- then move on. I like how Shonda writes, her fall out is much better.

  • http://www.hushvisionfilms.com Mr718to404

    The best part of the show, its looking at megan good.. lol I'll give it one more episode.

  • Nanny

    How was Luscious nearly dying when they thought he had ALS and when they discovered it was MG he was healthy. Sandra can we PLEASE get a medical minute on Myasthenia Gravis? I was recently diagnosed. It's rare so I was surprised to see it on tv.

  • Tammie Reed

    agreed!

  • harley_quinn2.0

    I liked House too but I didn't want to watch if it was a carbon copy. I'll take a look at it and let you know what I think ?.

  • MissyJ

    i will try to watch the full ep.. somebody said he had his titties out... maybe i was too quick to judge lol

  • MissyJ

    Because there were medicines to treat it, is how they explained it last season.

    GL with your treatments!

  • PettyEyezPrime

    I watched. It was cool. It's more of he knows he's THAT good and he acts like it. Not like house, more like Body of proof meets Castle.

  • jussaying

    I think Lee Daniels' funky ass attitude and his mouth are going to bring it down. He already left a bad taste with his ghetto rant over the golden globes and now he's comparing Terrence Howard's multi domestic abuse chargers to whiteys. Not in a we shouldn't tolerate this stuff, but in a dismissive fashion. So I guarantee that anymore of those comments will bring the PC liberals out and the show will be yanked off of the air in soon time.

  • Str8tUpMenace

    Honestly, I'm glad they killed his azz off so quick. I would not have been able to take Chris Rock as this dangerous gangsta for more than one episode. Cheeeeeiiiiiiiiiittttttttt, I could barely deal for the short time that they had his azz on there for the one. Couldn't stop laughing.

  • CaramelDrop

    So many clichés, stereotypes and exaggerated acting....the writers MUST think their intended audience has a very, very, low IQ. IMO.... As much as I hate to admit - because I can not stand Curtis,
    ? Power>Empire
    At least Power and Ghosts storyline is believable, this ish here is pure TRASH in comparison to Empires 1st season

  • MzApple

    its the same one he broke up with last season

  • Jusstlookn2

    I understood the message of the Gorilla, but I just thought it only feeds into what "some" thinks about blacks. This is my opinion, but they may have well dressed all up in ape. Not happy with first episode this season.

    Quite Frankly I was MAD

  • Cricket404

    Ikr, he could barely keep a straight face. At least 50 cent on Power can mean mug.

  • JerseyMom

    I thought gay boy sounded like Usher for a minute. *shrugs*

    Mr. Daniel's is about to get his n**** moment. The show sucks.

  • Hugga Bunch

    The best part was Andre.
    Good GOD.

  • SuggaB

    BOOOOOOO!!!!! (Throws tomatoes....in the can).

  • PettyEyezPrime

    Minority report was hard to get through. My brain kept losing focus.

  • ~~eb

    Yeah I was NOT feeling Jamal in the studio with Becky AT ALL! I do believe that the "failed twerk" was on purpose. After all, Anika is a debutante. Twerking shouldn't be her thing. What was the point of Marisa Tormei's character? And what happened to Tricky Trickter? Is she supposed to but up the other 250 mil?

    Imma need them to get back to basis and Chris Rock a drug kingpin! ROFLMAO!

  • PettyEyezPrime

    House was my ish.

  • harley_quinn2.0

    I liked Castle but I stopped watching for some reason. I'll give it a go.

  • Jusstlookn2

    Looking like granny popping it one last time for pop pop

  • Pooh

    You run your house & I run mine soooo yea.

  • 88

    I thought it was pretty good minus the gay ish. It was so many good one liners is this episode.

    Empire & Power are the best shows on tv right now.

  • harley_quinn2.0

    Oh he's shirtless? More incentive to watch lol

  • Cricket404

    I want Minority Report to work for Meagan Good, but I think they already gave up because I saw very little advertisement for it. Rosewood sucked, him and the Latina have no chemistry. I agree, Kelsey finds the diamonds in the ruff.

  • Scorpio

    Overuse of cameos by celebrities cheapens the show, makes it less believable. The singing has always come across as corny too me, but I understand its part of the show. Hopefully it will get back to what it did in the first season, but I think there's probably too much money, because everyone looks too polished. I felt some of the lines where a little to distasteful, like when the girl said she had too boo boo. I can see them ruining the show if this keeps up.

  • Zizzle

    I believe you replied to my point. Was there something else you wanted to know?

  • harley_quinn2.0

    Did anyone watch Funky Dinerva's recap on YouTube? Looking like he came from a 90s music video with SWV ?.

  • 88

    They choose Chris Rock because they didn't wanna scare off the white viewers.

  • SummerBaby

    Y'all still on topic....I didn't watch #shrug

  • Jusstlookn2

    Chris Rock was NOT believable, matter fact he did much better as Pooky in New Jack City.

  • nucynu25

    Yep, I hated tHat line.

  • PettyEyezPrime

    Everyone wants their chance on this show.

  • Jusstlookn2

    Hey SummerTime, yeah we sill on topic cause there was so much BS that went down last night But maybe that what they wanted.

  • MotherOfDragons, GetOffMyENuts

    I love Gregory House MD...that man should have been my azzhole best friend.

  • SummerBaby

    I plan to watch, but was busy. I'm gonna have to get caught up so I can contribute ?

  • Jackie Byrd

    it was over the top for sure. i hope they get away from that next episodes.

  • Jusstlookn2

    Well I deleted my ape dance cause they at pissing me off, too. He better not do no more mess like that ANYMORE. What made her say, you know what I feel like a animal and let me step into that ape suit.

  • MotherOfDragons, GetOffMyENuts

    The fact that they spell his name that way...like, WHY couldn't it be spelled Lucius, the proper way? I know, I'm petty...?

  • Jusstlookn2

    IT's just 20 episodes piled into 1 hour. Good Luck

  • jeniefrumdabloc™

    Chile .... Cause I can't get into neither ... I tried with Power and ADHD kicked in ... Empire to me just seems mediocre blah .... but if they like it cudos .... hell I watch enough shows ... but I'm real anal about certain shows with suppose to be serious topics lol

  • Str8tUpMenace

    They could've found somebody that could've made it a lil more believable than his azz. LMAO. Although rehab did Pookie well, even though he's still funny looking

  • Jusstlookn2

    Hey There

  • Jusstlookn2

    Hey Hunti

  • Jusstlookn2

    She gonna get talked to like the Trick they have her playing.

  • PettyEyezPrime

    It annoys me every time I see it. Buying all them vowels.

  • jeniefrumdabloc™

    Chile log all the way off ... yeen shyt for that

  • Buttercup

    Hahaha. Dwight wanted all those extra letters in his name.

  • jeniefrumdabloc™

    Mines is on fall break too ... do they azzes ever be in school ... go to school for a month then Break smh ....

  • MotherOfDragons, GetOffMyENuts

    Before I started watching I read an article and thought his name was pronounced the way it's spelled and could not believe a male main character was named Luscious. I was like "Luscious Lyon...wth?" ???

  • MotherOfDragons, GetOffMyENuts

    Glad it's not just me.

  • Nanny

    Yeah I noticed that. But there's no cure for mg and if you're progressed do far that you're getting shots you're probably getting them twice a week. Those flare ups are serious. The stress he goes through would trigger a flare up even with medication. I know it's just a show, but still. I was watching like wow he has so much energy for someone with MG.

  • Full Monty

    I was like really. Can we get DMX or someone actually believable.

  • eBay

    I think they meant for it to come off that way. The actor's from the Islands, but her character is a straight-laced debutante. Her character's disposition is probably too formal and proper to "twerk"

  • http://theempirefiend.tumblr.com/ Bird

    Wait, but then he ran off calling her. He was dead serious. They say he's going to go through a drastic change this season. Shocked as everyone is at Jamal, the producers said that Hakeem will change the most.

  • jussaying

    That's because Shonda didn't go to the school of niggadom lol. No seriously, Lee Daniels is a horrible writer. All of his plots are very thin, no complexity what so ever and would be better served for daytime soap operas that build upon senseless drama. Tyler too. Did you watch The Butler? That movie was horrible. Never understood why it got so much praise. Shonda's characters are complex - the only thing I dislike about her is that not ONE character is allowed any happiness. She does this thing of "grim-darkening" every thing.

  • http://theempirefiend.tumblr.com/ Bird

    *sigh* So we posed to windmill now? My deck is full so internet brawling doesn't do it for me. And I didn't beg, I asked out of respect and as you can see I didn't post it, also out of respect.

  • Sleepy One

    Right because you can tell that she knows how to twerk. There were moments that she had to check herself.

  • 88

    That's what whitey does build you up then tear you down.

  • Hugga Bunch

    Sorry, I like Rhonda lol she is the voice for a lot of ppl in the audience. She knows the family is full of drama, and she knows every one is fighting for the top spot, hell she's one of them w/Dre. At least she's got his back and I haven't seen her be phony once. Stuck up? Possibly. At least she's consistent.

    I especially liked the scene last season when she acted as Dre's proxy...loved how she came back at Lucious.

  • Zizzle

    Um, you came for me, don't try to backtrack.

  • http://theempirefiend.tumblr.com/ Bird

    Hakeem got whooped with a broom because he called her a bish. That's definitely broom whoopin worthy.

  • http://theempirefiend.tumblr.com/ Bird

    Nah, it wasn't that. Malik was very disappointed that his character was killed off. Maybe he'll still get to do some flashbacks from time to time.

  • stav

    Between his singing, and the other one rapping , I don't know which is worse.

  • Just Keya

    :off topic: So one of the downtown Philadelphia McDonald's spiked the prices up because the Pope will be here and all the people will be in the city. I personally think that's disgusting. I just got finished emailing them. I can't believe they are trying to take advantage of people like that. A damn shame, and they will NOT be receiving my funds even after the Pope is gone. Bastards.

  • MissyJ

    True.. but kicking ya momma out is TREATING her like a bish... he deserved the broom too lol

  • Jusstlookn2

    Love you More

  • ihatethesebitches

    I agree with the too many cameos, and the gay theme was in our face. Other than that, I liked it.

  • jeniefrumdabloc™

    <3 xoxo

  • Pooh

    Same thang I said. We didn't get all these breaks when I was in school

  • http://theempirefiend.tumblr.com/ Bird

    I think it is spelled right. It's like delicious.

  • ihatethesebitches

    He was killed off because he told the media that Jussie was gay in real life before Jussie came out. Lee was pissed at him. Then they tried to say that Malik actually had a drug habit to cover it up. But, the truth was he exposed Jussie.

  • http://theempirefiend.tumblr.com/ Bird

    Lee announced that Jussie was gay in a Philly.com interview months before Malik said it. The network said that someone had to died and they picked Vernon.

  • http://theempirefiend.tumblr.com/ Bird

    She tried to steal Empire from him. She is not supporting his new role. I was riding with Jamal kicking them out.

  • jeniefrumdabloc™

    Exactly .... never seen nothing like it smh

  • Jessica

    ....and gay.

  • MissyJ

    That's not what happened... like at all... it had nothing to do with taking it from him, it was taking it from Lucious. Jamal would NEVER be cut out. While she may want to run it truthfully she is trying to save Jamal, 1) she knows he won't be happy trying to be Lucious. 2) Jamal doesn't really want to run it any, he just wants to be accepted by Lucious. Kids don't often see how their parents have their best interests at heart.

  • Crazy tee

    They have like ten scenes in one episode and each scene is telling it's own story. It seemed like a run on sentence. I like Power better....

  • Full Monty

    Stevie Wonder could see that boy was gay LOL.

  • Andrea Williams

    @Just Keya........Good Evening, Damn if you didn't ask everything I was thinking especially about Jamal. I don't think that I want Jamal to be too vicious. Hell, when Cookie slapped him twice, I wasn't sure he wasn't going to slap back. That's how unsure I was about the new and improved(?) Jamal. I hope that he is not going to be an on-going ass. Guy from New York Undercovers name was Vernon. But you know that I died when Cookie told Boo-Boo Kitty that she couldn't even dyke right. Chile, I was through! You have a good day.

  • Crazy tee

    I said the same thing with love and hip hop LA...just let us know that they are gay. We don't want to see the sexual parts. I'm not against gay people but to see two men kissing makes me cringe...

  • Crazy tee

    You sure that wasn't Coolio...lol

  • Andrea Williams

    @Shelby Moore......Good Evening, from what I'm hearing from the street commitee, Malik Yoba would be right at home kissing a man because he is gay. And if I remember correctly, there was a picture of him some time back on SANDRAROSE at a Gay Pride gathering. He looked right at home. LOL. Have a good one.

  • Crazy tee

    You create a thesis and you build off of the thesis....the story line just doesn't stick, it's just all over the place...

  • Pebbles

    I don't think 50 acting.. He playing his true nature

  • Tammie Reed

    I LOVE Power!

  • Sleepy One

    You're right, they making everyone either gay or bi...that part isn't cool. Lee Daniels need to chill with that.

  • Sleepy One

    Yeah it was too many in one episode

  • Sleepy One

    Right because she's with Hakeem

  • felicia

    Bird, don't let this zizie or whatever this person is come for u. I luv ur font and have been a lurker but comment every now and again so I love ur comments and post and know you are a big fan of empire and your man Jussie!

  • Sleepy One

    Sorry I'm from Houston, what's a fall break?

  • Sleepy One

    You think so, I couldn't believe his serious face.

  • MissyJ

    So I turned it on and I change my stance. He and the chick don't have on screen chemistry but I will upgrade from a sucks to a passable ... Empire deserve a better lead in but meh

  • Li

    The ratings are still the best on network. Having said that -- it was a mess. I had to turn it off 3/4 into the show. Nothing made sense. Where do I begin: Chris rock -- really! a tough guy....total miscast. Didn't appreciate a star actress like Marisa playing gutter role like that....Transgenders, gay guys and lesbos...let's hope there's enough room for some straight people in the show. I'll continue to watch, but 1/2way through I'm team Black-ish!

  • Sleepy One

    I cracked up on this part...lol

  • Li

    It's a lee daniels production. That's what he does with his movies -- cameo after cameo. I think he gets actors cheaply.

  • Just Keya

    ????

  • Sleepy One

    Lucious and Cookie have a real street old school kind of love for each other. They may not be in a relationship but nobody gone mess with him/her, well except them.

  • Noirluv45

    Yours are almost the exact words spoke about the show by my brother-in-law. I watched about 15 minutes and had to turn it off. I was a mess. It was all over the place and barely kept my interest. Lee has to do better.

  • Li

    That's Lee's way of doing things. Have you seen his movies? He pads them full of "cameo" actors (does he pay everybody?) and he has some of the most over the top sex scenes....watch Monster's Ball with Halle Berry.

  • Carol

    16 million is the dreams of all the other shows on tv.

  • Sexy CJ

    .......................

  • Mo’nie

    I'm just waiting on Mariah's episode so I can watch the clip

  • Queen Negus

    ???

  • Lorenzo Chaps

    When he said "I'm hungry," I bout fell off my couch waiting for him to say he sure would like a rib (his scene from I'm gonna get u sucka). That's one of the worst casting decisions thus far.

  • Lorenzo Chaps

    I must say again, they got rid of Chris Rock's character so quick. I think having sm1 out to possibly kill Cookie would have been a good sub-plot this season. Is Lucious out to kill the love of his life or the drug king pin that she snitched on? Did Deray's street family put out a hit on her?

    I've said before new writers would never be able to submit a script with this many twists and turns out of place along with mediocre writing. You'd get so many dear john letters. But for some reason, it's a hit show with Lee Daniels and Strong at the helm.

  • Karma WhO

    First time watching, very disappointed...Will not be tuning in EVER again...point blank TASTELESS! N was that ej Johnson sangin on that table like that?!

  • Noirluv45

    The only Lee Daniel's movies I've seen was Precious and the Butler. I didn't know Monster's Ball was his movie! I heard about that sex scene with Halle and that dude and decided that movie was not for me. Lee is not my cup of tea. Thanks for the warning, Li.

  • Giselle

    He's the same guy from last season. He just grew his hair longer.

  • Lisa

    Didn't like it at all, way to much ungodly stuff. We don't need to see all that gay and lesbian stuff. Not going to tun in on this show.

  • Jusstlookn2

    The worsted. Yeap that's what I said.

  • Nik

    I agree that there was too much happening so quickly, so there were missed opportunities for subplots. All of the action happening from jail, the double cross with the takeover, etc., could have been distributed over a few episodes.

  • Nik

    Yes, I think Chris was miscast as well. Also, too much in your face sexuality of any sort is overwhelming and detracts from the plot.

  • Nik

    Yes! I lost track of who's on whose side. And Jamal turning into a he devil is the opposite of who he was last season. He was not Team Lucious like that.

  • Nik

    That was Miss Lawrence from RHOA.

  • Nik

    LMBO@n**** moment! In 3-2-1!

  • Nik

    So sorry to hear about your diagnosis. I wish you the best.

  • Sassy24

    Yup let people like what they like without being rude. Acting like power is better. Hope you have a good weekend Jeni.

  • E-VannaRootsAllEvil

    I did I think it took him out his comfort zone. I actually like him as the bad guy

  • Bede Robinson

    I will share with you how I feel. There was to much Lesbian and gay content in the episode. Everyone of Shonda Rimes shows are filled with gay scenes. If that's an individual choice, that's something they will have to answer to God for, on the other hand, I really don't want to see it on prime time television. I'm done!

  • Bede Robinson

    I will share with you how I feel. There was too much Lesbian and gay content in the episode. What was up with that concert for Luscious, not to mention Al Sharpton making a cameo. Really? Whatever one's sexual preference is, that's their individual choice, that's something they will have to answer to God for, on the other hand, I really don't want to see it on prime time television. I'm done!

  • Bonny

    Hahaha Sandra Rose, say billy goat again.#rihannasbrother

  • nucynu25

    Exactly, honestly I kinda feel like a hypocrite for being against it bc so much else that is wrong is displayed on TV. But I just feel like they are shoving this down our throats , it's like they are trying to make us believe that homosexuaulity is okay .

  • Nanny

    Thanks

  • Unita Lucinda “Lucy” Freebush

    Few episodes? A whole season would be nice.

  • Unita Lucinda “Lucy” Freebush

    I know a person who was diagnosed back in the early 70's. He said he was one of the first persons of color to be diagnosed.

  • Misslaydj

    Very Very true. It takes times it wasnt that bad.

  • jeniefrumdabloc™

    Same to you bew <3

  • IshippTra-Rih

    Power is sooooooo much better

  • Lolalao

    I cringed too..

  • Lolalao

    I don't trust her at all.

  • JUDGEMENTAL

    THEYRE TRYING TOO HARD, THEY FORGOT WHAT GOT THEM THERE...

  • observer

    I agree! We know already right....

  • THE UNTOUCHABLE

    I don't think we should complain about the celeb cameos because if they want to pass as celebs that only makes sense

  • Momo

    Yes it was!

  • Momo

    Totally agree. Love Fifty too!

  • LadyDujour

    hey....was that Ralph Tresvant doing the opening rap during the "Free luscious" concert?

  • Karen Brady

    I couldn't even look at it. My stomach turned a little.