If you missed last night's episode of Fox TV's soap opera musical Empire, you're not the only one.

For the 3rd consecutive week, Empire has dropped in the ratings. Wednesday night's episode drew just 12 million viewers. That's down 1 million viewers from last week's episode and down 4 million viewers from Empire's season 2 premiere.

Empire broke records last season by increasing its viewership tenfold with every episode. But season 2 is doing the exact opposite by losing viewers with every episode.

There are so many problems with season 2 of Empire it's hard to pinpoint just one.

The main problem is the script: it lacks cohesion or entertainment value. As many viewers have already noted on social media, the script is "all over the place."

The 2nd problem is the horrible soundtrack. Jussie Smollet can't sing and Bryshere Grey can't rap. The music takes away from the show rather than adding to it.

The 3rd problem with the show is its competition. Empire goes head-to-head with ABC's Black-ish and NBC's Law & order: SVU -- 2 shows that don't bash their viewers over the head with hidden or overt agendas.

Rap mogul 50 Cent and others have complained that Empire's constant references to homosexuality is off-putting.

Take notes, Fox TV.

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  • Mel

    Svu and criminal minds is where it's at on weds nights

  • EasyBreezy

    Oh, okay. #poorEmpire

  • BLACK *I*C*E*

    I can't get into this season. Last season I was hooked.
    It seems like the executives took everything they "thought" made the show popular (i.e. the music, Cookie tripping) and amplified it to the point of annoyance.

  • BLACK *I*C*E*

    I am completely over all the songs. It's too much. And they aren't even good.

  • iWasteTime

    I just finished it and last night was better than the first two weeks.
    We needed Luscious out the clink!

  • Jusstlookn2

    Diva Ms. Daniels Take Note

    Only Great thing about the show was Timberland, but he all ready is a SUPERSTAR AND LEGEND

  • Ruby shine

    This is Karma Sutra for Sleaze Daniels greedy behind, which is when fate phucks you in all sorts of creative ways. ?

  • iWasteTime

    The 3rd problem with the show is its competition. Empire goes head-to-head with ABC’s Black-ish and NBC’s Law & order: SVU

    -------------------------
    And Modern Family.
    Please kick oout Dylan and bring back Andy the Nanny!
    Come on ABC!!

  • Jusstlookn2

    Cookie ain't Cookie without Luscious

    (made me think of Dream Girls) When Effie walked out.

  • ShelbyMoore

    LMAO...Fantasia Loaf!!! No lies!

  • TeeTee

    I really dislike Empire but I am forced to watch it with someone else... yeah script sucks and the show sucks. Maybe they have something in store ... or maybe they didn't it was going to last past the first season... but yeah old girl rapping .... I was asking myself "I wonder how Dej feels about this?"

  • Str8tUpMenace

    Fantasia Loaf!!!!!!!!!!!! *dead as fugg*

  • Low E. {CIRCA 1908}

    DEAD @ FANTASIA LOAF!

  • puppylove

    So @Sandrarose how many more $$$$ post until we get a Matt Barnes, Derrick Fisher post? You can even frame it arould gloria being a bad mother for having the audacity to bring another man around Matt's children.

  • Low E. {CIRCA 1908}

    AND I'LL TAKE BLACKISH AND MODERN FAMILY ANY DAY...THE IRONY IN IKE TURNER PROCREATING WITH HIS MAMA IN LAW THO!

  • Readytochokemothernatureonout

    Lol at that meme. Now next week I will like and this week was better than the other past weeks. I'm keeping hope alive plus I saw my Sway.

  • Str8tUpMenace

    Dej Loaf better be gettin some checks off that chit there. LMAO

  • Readytochokemothernatureonout

    Lol

  • SpillyNillie

    Who's responsible?

  • Str8tUpMenace

    Was it just me, or was something off with Terrence in last night's episode??? He looked sick, for real sick. He didn't look the same from past episodes. Maybe the haircut, ion know, but he looked like a light-skin gecko

  • Jen_n_juice

    This week was better than the last 2 episodes. So glad there wasn't alot of man on man action this episode.

  • iWasteTime

    Yo!! Thank you for that! and she mean as a snake to him, getting him back for Anna Mae

  • Str8tUpMenace

    +1

  • Milani

    his face looked off to me. I don't know if he needed some facial hair or what but he just looked different.

  • SpillyNillie

    Dej Loaf will be on the show soon as Cookie's new artist...Dej coming in 5 4 3 ...

  • Jen_n_juice

    I thought the same thing! And blamed the hair cut

  • SpillyNillie

    Yeah...seem like he was high to me...

  • Bootcampgirl

    but, but I thought Karma Sutraa was about something else...:kona:

  • Str8tUpMenace

    @Jen & @Milanisti:disqus

    Good to know it wasn't just me. LOL

  • Mo’nie

    nothing can draw me away from cbs and criminal minds on a wednesday evening. besides i dont watch because of the gay scenes

  • SummerBaby

    I haven't been able to get into any shows this season. I've been so busy.

  • FuggFolks2015

    Jussie Smollet can’t sing

    ^^^^^^^^
    Bird gonna get on yall private group email and be Big mad at you for talking about her boo.

  • Bootcampgirl

    Not Big mad...LOL

  • Renee Bee

    Bwahahaha!

  • FuggFolks2015

    Rap mogul 50 Cent and others have complained that Empire‘s constant references to homosexuality is off-putting.

    ^^^^^^^^^
    There was no gay azz chit last night was there? I missed it? Other than the dark Dej Loaf being an obvious bull dagger.

  • Bootcampgirl

    I have never seen one episode, but from what ya'll saying and the lack of posts I get on FB about it...it must not be good this season...

  • Renee Bee

    Waiting....(Birdman hand rub).

  • Yoni

    I'm weak because I was actually WATCHING The Smurfs last night. LMAOOOO

  • FuggFolks2015

    He always look like a light skinned gecko to meh.

  • Str8tUpMenace

    That bish voice deep as fugg. Sound like Barry White in his teen years.

  • http://theempirefiend.tumblr.com/ Bird

    I still love it and last night's episode was the best. Both of Hakeem's songs were fiyah. The big changes that may be ruining this season for folks is Jamal's new personality and the loss of Jamal and Hakeem's close relationship. Jussie just isn't convincing in this new personality. Personally I'm cool with the ratings. Let them drop low enough so Fox can't afford all the cameos anymore. Oh yeah, how could I forget the over the top gayness. Folks tired of that too. Glad they didn't do it last night. Maybe that's why I like it so much. It was all about the family which are the only ones we really care about.

  • Str8tUpMenace

    Them gay scenes be having me covering my eyes like a damn kid.

  • http://sandrarose.com SandraRose

    I guess I underestimated my readers. Y'all really care about Matt Barnes and Derek Fisher fighting over a broad? *shrugs*

  • Blaque Mahogany

    I haven't caught an episode this season. I will probably watch it at some point--when I'm bored. Just FF through the gay scenes.

  • Yoni

    I be so sleep(y) literally. I can't get through a full episode......EVER.

  • Blaque Mahogany

    Because the show is horrible or because you are just tired?

  • SpillyNillie

    This was the best episode...I took a huge sigh of relief...Empire is baaaaacccckkkkk. Now that wanna be Selina got on my nerves real quick!

  • FuggFolks2015

    As an avid, rabid basketball fan....you know my answer to this

  • Yoni

    50-50

  • Blaque Mahogany

    I really think that Power is a better show. Yes, we can have multiple shows and they all can win. I'm just saying that Power does not get the same media acknowledgment as Empire and I think the actors, writers, and music is far superior.

  • puppylove

    We (fake) care. It's a great debate of who is more wrong.

  • Str8tUpMenace

    He reminds me of some sort of amphibian or reptile. He's definitely Yandy-ish. He just looked extra lizardy yesterday. Like a lizardy arrow-shaped tongue was about to come out his mouth.

  • http://theempirefiend.tumblr.com/ Bird

    Dej shouldn't be upset because the girl was rapping before she got on the show.

  • Yoni

    She givin "stankface" steez.

  • SummerBaby

    Yandy- ish ??

  • FuggFolks2015

    I thought another basketball great had damn died.

    My sports alerts BLEW UP.

    Over Gloria Govan hoe azz.

  • Str8tUpMenace

    We nosy and just like to hear and read about other folks' drama.

  • chachadigi

    I love Blackish! I DVR it and watch empire first. Why do they call Tracy's character Rainbow? Also, are Pops and Diane still married or is that their relationship? She is really mean to him.

  • Yoni

    Not in HIS TEEN years! LOL RIP Barry.

  • Let Your Soul Glow

    You were about to pull out your RIP shirt for nothing. LOL!!!!

  • puppylove

    Hell seems like one almost did.

  • Chitsngiggles

    Because Power is executive produce by a black wrapper. Hollywood ain't ready for that.

  • FuggFolks2015

    I thought it was her brother still talking at the table. It was her butt. I hate that I love you.

  • Str8tUpMenace

    Yep. When he azz was hittin puberty. Voice crackin and chit.

  • Str8tUpMenace

    LMAO. Bish could catfish the chit out somebody over the phone.

  • Low E. {CIRCA 1908}

    SUPA DUPA FLY AND 100% GINUWINE STILL A1

  • FuggFolks2015

    GIRL!

  • http://theempirefiend.tumblr.com/ Bird

    Pops and Diane are divorced. Rainbow's parents were hippies back in the day.

  • SummerBaby

    They are totally different to me.

  • FuggFolks2015

    Fish almost managed to die over some fish.

    You right.

  • chachadigi

    I just wonder what set him off so. And if he's dating Riri, why he is upset about his ex dating also? Overall though, you are correct. I really don't care.

  • Str8tUpMenace

    Cuz of a snitchin azz kid. Gloria prolly beat fire outta that baby for tellin

  • Low E. {CIRCA 1908}

    BOW/RAINBOW IS HER REAL NAME...DR. RAINBOW JOHNSON I BELIEVE

    AND I JUST SAW THAT WANDA SYKES WILL HAVE A CAMEO...I CAN DIG IT!

  • puppylove

    Riri said she don't know him. Him's feelins hurt.

  • Low E. {CIRCA 1908}

    START TO FINISH LITERALLY

  • Readytochokemothernatureonout

    Lol

  • FuggFolks2015

    They twins. You know you gotta get both of them at the same time. Cause you KNOW it was a group effort

  • Just Keya

    Kids too damn grown.

  • puppylove

    ALWAYS. Probably had daddy on speakerphone.

  • iWasteTime

    not gonna lie I FF after Cookie spoke but i did like the girl group song

  • FuggFolks2015

    Like I said below in other post. I know they had some kind of photographic evidence.

  • Str8tUpMenace

    True. Lil schemin azz twins. They prolly can't stand Fisher's azz, and said, "I know how to get rid of him, quick." Hopped on that phone and said, "Daddy........

  • Blaque Mahogany

    True and I am not saying that they are the same. People compare it to Black-ish and Modern Family. I don't think it is like those shows either. But I think all that each one of those shows are better than Empire.

  • iWasteTime

    Rainbow her real name.
    She mixed and born to hippies.
    Bow her nickname .

  • puppylove

    Kids was facetiming him so he could see for himself lol.

  • Str8tUpMenace

    Him and dude were teammates, possibly friends. But definitely teammates for a couple years

  • Str8tUpMenace

    Peen musta been trash. LMAO

  • FuggFolks2015

    Its also bc Power is on cable. Empire is network. So there is always going to be a diff. in content as far as that goes. They can take more liberties with alot of things due to that

  • Low E. {CIRCA 1908}

    FUKK THE MEDIA ACKNOWLEDGEMENT...IT'S OK FOR US TO LOVE OUR OWN SHOWS AND IT NOT BE PLASTERED EVERYWHERE.

  • http://theempirefiend.tumblr.com/ Bird

    Neither did The Wire and it was waaaay better than Power. Heck, I think Soul Food and even Survivors Remorse are better than Power. Black shows that come on premium channels don't get that kind of attention. That's just the way it is. Empire is on a major network and they have a robust marketing budget. Cable shows are no competition because of their lack of exposure.

  • puppylove

    I really think it is because he was around the boys. She gas dated, but probably never had a guy around the kids before.

  • Tiffany Miller

    We sit and laugh at the show now. That villain music before it goes to commercial and switches scenes is silly!!!! DUN DUN DUN....... HA!!! I SIGNED YOUR ARTIS..AH AH AH!!!! It is beyond SILLY!!! Too much back and forth... and the show is just CORNY!!!!!!!!! The goat in Jussie's throat and them WHACK POP songs!!!!! And now Taraji is OVER ACTING. HAKEEM and them DRAKE dance moves... and Terrance Howard.... its just WhACK!!!! Bad enough I hate musicals.

  • Zizzle

    Fox. Couldn't happen to a better network.

  • JennyJazzhands

    I don't.

  • Bootcampgirl

    So one of the three guys that thwarted the terror attack on the french train has been stabbed repeatedly and is in critical condition...#sad

  • FuggFolks2015

    I cosign. Just said that below.

  • http://theempirefiend.tumblr.com/ Bird

    Totally. It's like some Power fans are mad at Empire because they keep comparing them. What Empire do to them?

  • MookieFly

    I liked it and will probably continue to watch it as well. Not as good as the first season but still entertaining. I do feel like they may be setting up Cookie to be gay. She did some thangs for a lil bit of change back in the day and it's all gonna come out when Big Berniece gets released from jail

  • Blaque Mahogany

    I 1000% agree. But from a financial perspective (advertising etc.) I think that POWER is more deserving. That is all. I think 50 is correct. I don't understand how Empire is nominated for everything...even on BET...and nothing for Empire. That is crazy to me. Isn't the creator lead writer a black woman?

  • SpillyNillie

    What fight? Didn't sound like a fight to me...

  • MISSMEWITDATBULL

    Agreed. And I love Survivors Remorse! Hilarious.

  • FuggFolks2015

    DUN DUN DUN....... HA!!! I SIGNED YOUR ARTIS..AH AH AH!!!! It is beyond SILLY!!!

    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^
    I JUST HOLLERED loudly at this. Cause this is JUST how it be too. Lord. *wallslides*

  • http://www.hushvisionfilms.com Mr718to404

    yeah, watch SVU with whoopi last night instead of empire.. this season kind of sucks, and sandra is right, they music SUCKS...

  • http://theempirefiend.tumblr.com/ Bird

    WHAT!?!?!?! OMG, you gotta watch Hakeem's performance. He came for Lucious. It wasn't going to work, but he was ballsy.

  • https://www.etsy.com/shop/AMarieNaturals Lovezoe

    That's still good. CBS numbers.

  • Tiffany Miller

    FANTASIA LOAF!!!!!! LMAO!!!!!

  • SummerBaby

    That's what I don't get. All them other shows on do they beef with each other?

  • Blaque Mahogany

    I disagree. Budget has nothing to do with the quality of writers and actors. I bet Taraji and Terrence got more the first season than the stars of POWER.

    And The Wire did receive a lot of attention. The creators were featured everywhere...the news, Huffingtonpost, NPR.

  • Blaque Mahogany

    Survivors Remorse is hilarious btw. They are insane.

  • Li

    Last night was pretty good I must say. But the character personalities keep changing and it makes no sense. For example, Anika -- I still don't know what she's doing on the show. First she's with Lucious, then his competitor, then Hakeem, then Cookie, and now she's unemployed and still trying to get a job with the Lyons? So out of character.

  • Li

    There was no reason for him to go to prison in the first place. They don't have a witness for Bunky's murder. And nobody even misses Vernon.
    The writers seem to be writing in separate rooms.

  • L.T.L. Since 2007

    Survivor's Remorse is my shyt. I still love Tichina Arnolds ratchet a$$ in anything.

  • Blaque Mahogany

    I don't hate musicals and I agree with everything you said. I was surprised that so many people really think/thought Jussie and Hakeem can/rap sing.

  • http://theempirefiend.tumblr.com/ Bird

    Damon Wayans had beef with Bernie Mac back in the day, but that was because the shows came on at the same time and Bernie was killing My Wife and Kids in the ratings and Damon thought that Bernie shouldn't have let the networks pit them against one another. Power and Empire ain't even on in the same season let alone the same time slot.

  • Yoni

    And the other one that is on Dancing With The Stars, was/is a student at that college where that shooting took place a few days ago.

  • SummerBaby

    Gotcha! I've been so busy I've barely watched any shows this season

  • MissyJ

    who is comparing Empire to Modern Family???

  • DivineMsM

    Afternoon Boots! and all. Hope you are good.
    Whoa, whaaa happened? the link to the story?

  • Yoni

    Those songs sure are POP! I think that's why I watch it on mute most of the time.

  • Bootcampgirl

    Damn, I did not know that

  • Bootcampgirl

    I seen a blurb on CBS news this morning...

  • Hugga Bunch

    This is actually sad, I know we have jokes at times, but still hate to see good things fail or at least start down that road.

  • MissyJ

    Last nights EP was my favorite... I was cracking up.. Empire is the same as it was last season..slow simmer, then burn.

    Empire is a soap opera it is nothing like power except it's about black people. It's supposed to be over dramatic...

  • Bootcampgirl

    They have enough viewers, I'm sure they'll be alright

  • Yoni

    Granted I've never watched it, but, is Power a musical too? What is the comparison hype about?

  • DivineMsM

    Thanks. Just a d*mn shame. ::shakes head::

  • Yoni

    I think THIS comment belongs down here...

    Yoni Blaque Mahogany•a few seconds ago

    Granted I've never watched it, but, is Power a musical too? What is the comparison hype about?

  • usher #1fan????

    Yea i can't figure her out this season either ??

  • http://theempirefiend.tumblr.com/ Bird

    The Wire never won nary an award and they dang sure deserved it. Mainstream media was not even aware of the show so I don't know how they were everywhere. I ain't see them no where and was mad salty about it. Consider this. Empire gets 12 million viewers a week. Power gets 400k. It's because everyone can't afford premium channels. Thanks to 50 complaining at least mainstream media is aware of Power. So it's doing way better than other series on premium channels. That's something to be happy about.

  • DivineMsM

    Agreed. @Hugga Bunch:disqus Empire just gotta get back to basics.

  • Futuredocdonte

    The 2nd problem is the horrible soundtrack. Jussie Smollet can’t sing and Bryshere Grey can’t rap.
    -----
    As much as I hate his whinny sounding yodel, you can't deny that the boy can sing. Rapping ain't that hard to do when u have to read from a script. Just need a little cadence

  • Beyawnce

    Is it her face or that haircut? because lordt.

  • http://theempirefiend.tumblr.com/ Bird

    Don't be sad. If they level off at 10 - 12 milli they good. They'll still be here for seasons to come. Everything ain't for everybody.

  • http://theempirefiend.tumblr.com/ Bird

    OMG. That's terrible.

  • MissyJ

    50 complained about Empire using the word Power in their marketing (as if the show isn't about Power) to get free press... and now people 2 years later won't shut up about comparing them. The shows are nothing alike except about black folks..... You can like either or you can like both or neither.. But saying Power is "better" is like saying an apple is better than fish sandwich..

  • Str8tUpMenace

    I think her sneaky conniving azz is up to something, still.

  • Just Keya

    THIS

  • Bootcampgirl

    IKR, at first they though he wasn't going to make it, now they say he is in stable condition..

  • Blaque Mahogany

    What do you mean comparison hype? To the extent that I was comparing--I'm simply comparing the acting, writing, music and production. To me, those things can be compared. And in that regard, POWER wins to me.

  • http://theempirefiend.tumblr.com/ Bird

    Jussie been pop since season one. Hakeem been dancing like that since season one. Lucious is the man, been the man and gonna stay the man. Cookie was always overacting. I never got her appeal in the first place.

  • MissyJ

    Right a lot of people just watched to see what the hype was about.. Now we are getting into their core viewership...

  • abby-o

    Left my tv in the living room on fox, and went in the bedroom to watch the bootleg dvd of the perfect man i bought .. so mad i let myself be counted in that 12 million... i just hate that crappy show now

  • https://www.etsy.com/shop/AMarieNaturals Lovezoe

    Them boys. Whew. See how the other one would have been at the school in Oregon if it won't fit DWTS

  • MissyJ

    That's not how it works...

  • Bootcampgirl

    That's the only thing I'm upset about is that it is on a channel I refuse to pay for...#iwatchitforfreehypothectically..

  • chachadigi

    OIC, I get it now. I just really started watching last season mid-season so, still trying to figure out all the references.

  • Bootcampgirl

    I just read that...

  • Blaque Mahogany

    And honestly, it's laughable to me that people are acting like they have to be exactly the same to be discussed. They are both dramas and that alone would allow both shows to be nominated for the same awards which would mean that they would be compared despite the fact that one has it's characters singing non-stop. Smdh. I mean it really is not that serious...

  • Str8tUpMenace

    I think it's the "I just smelled something foul face" that she has on in that pic. LMAO

  • https://www.etsy.com/shop/AMarieNaturals Lovezoe

    Unless you are a Nielson family...

  • Torae

    That's the thing society these days make things big because of HYPE people just wanted to be like everyone and was ranting and raving about a crappy ass show with subpar acting. I didn't get the hype after the first 10 mins of the first episode.

  • http://sandrarose.com SandraRose

    And for your info, no one pays me a dime to write a post. If a post is sponsored it will clearly say "sponsored" at the bottom. Don't trip.

  • http://sandrarose.com SandraRose

    The world is made up of followers and leaders. Most people (99%) are followers and bandwagon riders. They just go along with the crowd.

  • Blaque Mahogany

    No offense but there are several inaccuracies in what you typed above. The creator of the show was a Maryland journalist and that alone was the reason that it received so much notoriety. I mean it may not have been on Sandrarose.com, BET, EmTOh, or other urban "news" sites but the show was pretty big and it was talked about in white media outlets... Power has more than 400k viewers. But all of this is really beside the point and not relevant to my point about talent. Which is subjective...

  • FuggFolks2015

    Not musical. At all. Not sure about comparisons. Two totally different shows. Night and day

  • WHITTYwithWORDS

    This episode was petty good... I wonder what will happen next week

  • Yoni

    I apologize if you misunderstood my question. I wasn't asking you personally about your own personal comparison. What I meant was, PEOPLE constantly compare the two shows all the time. Are they comparing them because they have the same type of storyline, context, similar actor, "break into song" musical appeal? Or, are they just two shows with one named titles who have well-known black actors on their payroll? That's all.

  • MissyJ

    I loved Taraji in Person of Interest... This role is probably more fun for her tho

  • Yoni

    Thank you. That's what I was wondering. :kiss:

  • Just Keya

    I luh Cookie!!!!

  • Rob

    For me, this was the first good episode since the disastrous season finales. Coincidentally enough, it's also the first episode in a while that was free of irrelevant guest cameos.

    If they keep it up, the audience will return.

  • Rodmilla De Ghent

    i agree

  • Blaque Mahogany

    No problem. I don't know why people are comparing them but I don't think comparison is a bad thing. Probably for the reasons you mentioned, black cast, black writers/creators, etc.

  • Bootcampgirl

    Welp, I guess still no Speaker of the House..

  • MissyJ

    So you also compare Power and Empire to House of Cards, Downton Abbey, Game of Thrones, Orphan Black? No you don't and neither does anyone else...

  • Just Keya

    SIgh. SO for $299 Matty will teach you how to be Beyoncé. smdh. #Beyonce101

  • http://theempirefiend.tumblr.com/ Bird

    Here's my theory. Lee and Danny said the only reason Vernon was killed off was because Fox forced them to kill someone. If they keep Anika around as dead weight they can kill her later without jacking up the story like Vernon's death did.

  • https://www.etsy.com/shop/AMarieNaturals Lovezoe

    Did it say why he backed out. Probably knew he won't gone get it.

  • Bootcampgirl

    Nah, just said he wasn't the one...

  • Let Your Soul Glow

    What? He's doing singing classes?

  • WHITTYwithWORDS

    I mean if you saw a bullet coming..wouldn't you move.

  • puppylove

    These is jokes Sandra. I already know you would not compromise your integrity in such a way. Hell if Fox PAID you for this post they would want their money back.

  • Just Keya

    Child, he is telling people he can make them Beyoncé. Matty come on! And he can make you Beyoncé for 300 dollars?! Her hair cost more than 300$!! smh

  • https://www.etsy.com/shop/AMarieNaturals Lovezoe

    None of them are. The two either.

  • Let Your Soul Glow

    See I've watched too much Scandal bc when stuff like this happens, I think, someone showed him some pics of him getting spanked by an escort and threatened him with them to back down. I believe that Scandal-type stuff happens more often than we'll ever know!

  • Just Keya

    Come to think of it, whoever pays for the class is a dummy. Because IF he can make anyone Beyoncé, how come he did not make Kelly, Michelle, and the other DC members Beyoncé?

  • Just Keya

    That I could believe

  • Blaque Mahogany

    Lawd... I can't...would I compare the acting? This can't be life. Just look at the Emmy nominee list. Apparently, not only would I BUT they also compare the ACTRESSES from those shows, Leading Female actor in a Drama Series (I'm just naming the shows): Empire, Homeland, House of Cards, How To Get Away With Murder, Mad Men, and Orphan Black. <<< Would you look at that all of those different shows being compared. Who would've thunk it?

    I'm done though. I'm mad since Empire is winning and Power isn't, I don't get my check. Smh.

  • Let Your Soul Glow

    Was just about to say that! He couldn't even make Solange a Beyonce, I know he can't do that for the average person. But some sucker is going to pay it!

  • iWasteTime

    this. made. me . holla.
    when child support in your 60's goes wrong

  • Kim

    Almost every show has declined in ratings each week.It's an aberration to increase in ratings each week.

  • http://theempirefiend.tumblr.com/ Bird

    That's actually a good thing.

  • SpillyNillie

    Like the back in the day USA model search?

  • Just Keya

    Yup

  • Low E. {CIRCA 1908}

    THE INITIAL CONSENSUS ON SOCIAL MEDIA WAS THAT EMPIRE WAS BETTER THAN POWER...MOST OF THESE FOLKS WERE PEOPLE WHO HAD 1: NEVER SEEN POWER AND 2: DIDN'T EVEN HAVE STARZ TO SEE POWER...IT JUST BLEW UP. NO COMPARISON PERIOD...AND I DON'T REALLY CARE FOR EMPIRE PERSONALLY. -SHRUGS-

  • Just Keya

    Does this not sound like a get rich quick scam?!

  • SpillyNillie

    So he's basically scouting for talent on the coins of others...

  • Just Keya

    Yup. And telling lies

  • Just Keya

    Gonna make random people Beyoncé but can't do shyt with Solo. Yeah ok.

  • Low E. {CIRCA 1908}

    ONE WORD: EFFORT. HE PUT EFFORT INTO HIS CHILD...OTHER FOLKS CHIRREN WERE EACH SOLD SEPARATELY.

  • SpillyNillie

    He's not going to mold anyone to be better than his doorter...I hope these folks now that...

  • Just Keya

    Why even fake it? And I Am mad the class is only 300$

  • Low E. {CIRCA 1908}

    LIFE CAME BEFORE ART...

  • http://shopjealousy.com Milliona Ire

    I haven't watched that show ever and refuse. As soon as I read what it was about, I immediately called bs. Glorifying ratchetness, drama, lying, cheating, vulgarity, and now homosexuality. People see it on reality tv and it's a problem. But put it on a shiny tv show with attractive 'actors' and it's all the rave. Now everyone hates it? Um ok.... they got what they asked for. Sheep.

  • Just Keya

    SO he is gonna put that type of effort into these random people? NOPE. lmao. Why did he not put that effort into his other daughters?

  • MissyJ

    I watch both shows so they are both winning in my mind.

    Awards shows really aren't comparing shows in the manner in which Power and Empire are constantly being compared... so that really isn't relevant

  • Bootcampgirl

    LOL, or Star Search

  • Libragirlone

    I loved last night episode also.

  • Low E. {CIRCA 1908}

    TOUCHE! FOR WHICH SHOW?

  • LabellaMior

    All I keep hearing is how bad the acting is and to many celeb cameo's with the script all over the place and to much "ghey"parts .. I'm actually waitin until about 4-5 episodes before I tune in.. right now my ratchet guilty pleasure is Love and hip hop hollywood... Its so fake but I can't stop watching.. #soashamed? lol

  • SummerBaby

    No! I need a spa day & some time for myself

  • http://theempirefiend.tumblr.com/ Bird

    Nah. Dey lyin so it's all good. I'm not into his music enough to fight for it. Hakeem has always been my favorite musician out of the brothers.

  • Bootcampgirl

    Damn, why Tia post get removed I was just asking about her site...*Take Care*

  • MissyJ

    I read that... i can't even knock his hustle.. No different than those modeling schools people pay THOUSANDS for

  • MissyJ

    what happened?

  • Just Keya

    But do people really believe they are gonna be Beyoncé?

  • Bootcampgirl

    I don't know, she called folks sheeps and poof her comment was gone...

  • Yoni

    Got it.

  • MissyJ

    Olivia character did have a real life person it was modeled after so I think you are right

  • Just Keya

    I just saw that. I was wondering was it my computer or did she get a take care

  • Bootcampgirl

    probably not, just good advertising...

  • tintin

    jessie can sing. i don't know what you're talking about. But the music this season sucks and yes i agree with fiddy, the gay thing is over the top but the last two episodes have been ok with not pushing it.

  • MissyJ

    Chile have these folks already believe THEY ARE Beyonce.. just waiting for other folks to catch on

  • Yoni

    Right. Like, why compare in the first place.

  • http://theempirefiend.tumblr.com/ Bird

    I feel like Hakeem's song with Timbo last night was Empire's first legitimate hit.

  • SpillyNillie

    I watched Soap Opera's growing up with my aunts...its tv, meant for entertainment...Empire is like the black Dynasty. They could eliminate the homosexual scenes tho...

  • MissyJ

    You say Sandy said "Thank you for your services" lol

  • Just Keya

    *giggles*

  • Yoni

    But an apple is better than a fish sandwich. LMAOOO lbvs.....but I get what you're saying. LMAO

  • stanhope

    The scripts this season have been disjoint. It is analogous to the republicans in the house. Ludacris was ludicrous. There is no central theme any more. Terrence Howard's acting seems "phoned in." The central story should be Cookie raising up her label. All of these ancillary stories are worthless and confusing. Who cares whether dude with white wife is going to have a baby? Pit Hakim against Jamal and let Andrew go nuts because he adds nothing. Throwing that lesbian deal in didn't add a thing. Gay is fine but only if it integrates seamlessly into the story. This is a hot mess getting messier by the week. Call Diahann Carroll and bring her in as Dominique Devereaux with a rival label. Call Vanessa Williams and make her president of Dominique's label. Give us the glamazon light skinned gals with fashions, acting ability and power.

  • Bootcampgirl

    If my memory serves me correctly, I believe she was talking reckless before and that's when I went to her website and saw it was still under construction...:kona:

  • stanhope

    miss hood rat last night was a complete waste of time and couldn't act her way of of a high school play in the suburbs.

  • Low E. {CIRCA 1908}

    WHO KELLY AND SOLO?? HE SAID "BABY TEETH IS MY FAVORITE...YALL GET IN RANK"

  • http://theempirefiend.tumblr.com/ Bird

    My Donte be knowin.

  • Just Keya

    Bloop.

  • SameoleJ

    So did I......so I guess I shouldn't try those poses, huhn? Le Sigh

  • iWasteTime

    New post... Matty Barnes

  • Low E. {CIRCA 1908}

    TWO THINGS: LISARAYE AND TICHINA ARNOLD DINNER DATE AND GILBERT GONZO IS ALLEGEDLY SUING LAURA FOR THAT NASTY LETTER SHE LEAKED...ANYBODY ANYWHERE?? I NEED SOME GOOD GIGGLEWORTHY COMMENTARY

  • Bootcampgirl

    Nope, because apparently it's about fate something or other...*shrugs* who knew after all this time...

  • MissyJ

    Lemme google the dinner date...

  • MISSMEWITDATBULL

    Chile, $300 is the VIP price, which includes lunch & a pic w/Daddy Bey. You can take the class for $199 - you just won't get a buffet plate. LOL

  • Vagirl

    Sorry but this season I just can't get into.....yep I switch the channel about 9:15 to the ID channel...sorry empire you have lost me....To be real about to be done with how to get away with murder some scenes just don't make sense....not in a million years anna lisa goes both ways just went over my head..lol

  • SameoleJ

    Fish told them to take their lil bad azzes to their room one time too many!! They were like, "Oh No, Uncle Fish, we gotz something for dat azz!! Daddy!!" And then they did the Diddy Bop and was like, "Take that, take that!!" LOL

  • MissyJ

    Pam's choice of footwear..... UGH! and if she don't stop gelling down her half shave like it's the back of her neck..........

    Side note.. Also saw CMilli... I'm trying to like grandfathered but she is ruining it for me

  • SameoleJ

    Yeah, cause we would NOT want to f&>k around and get some bad ju ju....pun intended. Let me go update Wikipedia.

  • http://theempirefiend.tumblr.com/ Bird

    How could I forget to mention my new boo? Did anybody mention how fine my girl crush AzMarie was last night? My lesbianic cherry belongs to her. We ain't never breaking up.

  • SameoleJ

    LOL

  • MissyJ

    They making her be a girl this season... She was purdy...

  • http://theempirefiend.tumblr.com/ Bird

    Take it! You've earned it.

  • Ardent Photog

    OMG Jussie is on my nerve with that false falsetto! Mr. Drip Drop actually did pretty good with Timbaland last night - it was tolerable but not downloadable :-)

    But can we talk about AHS? It started out too graphic... I had to change it but someone fill me in please?

  • Libragirlone

    Lucius is full of sh$$ and He will never be able to keep Cookie down. Andre gets on my nerves begging Lucious to take him back. If it wasn't for Andre Licious would not know to buy the radio stations.

  • Just Keya

    lmao That's even worse!

  • Just Keya

    I holllered

  • Meme81

    I'm torn with this show...a part of me wanted it to succeed because there are a lot of talented black actors in it, but the Christian in me sees so much wrong with it I just can't anymore.

  • Ardent Photog

    Thats' what happens when you are an uppity debutaunte with limited transferable skills.

  • http://theempirefiend.tumblr.com/ Bird

    Cookie need to bring Lyon Dynasty up under Empire. She can break the new acts on her label. I want the family back together dagnabit!

  • Ardent Photog

    Tolerable but not downloadable

  • Ardent Photog

    They did have a witness - the bum that drew a picture of a lion, remember?

  • http://theempirefiend.tumblr.com/ Bird

    Ain't no comparison. Power is about the drug business at the kingpin level. Lucious was a drug dealer before he made it big.

  • JennyJazzhands

    He's puffy. The way people look when they drink way too much.

  • Readytochokemothernatureonout

    What would Rih say tho lol

  • Ardent Photog

    A Stevie J handrub is more appropriate in this case...

  • 1/8

    I watched Whoopi on SVU last night. Her courtroom scene was epic!

  • Queen Negus

    I still like this show even with the slowness of characters. I do remember last season I screamed and holler so much I was hoarse. Now I sit and watch each scene and can predict what's going to happen next. Do better Lee Daniels or allow me to ghost write cameo episide?Scandal and Htgawm tonight!!

  • Luv Pitties

    Yea I've been fast forwarding through the songs. I DVR this show on purpose just so I can do that.

  • Impressive Empress

    I have never seen it, won't ever watch it. That's probably not important or pertinent to this post, but I thought you should know.

  • Ardent Photog

    *sips tea* Christian, you say?

  • Luv Pitties

    But why is the DA wearing Tom Ford shoes but driving a busted arse Crown Vic?

  • Renee Bee

    Lol. Why does that sound just nasty?

  • Ardent Photog

    She was the prettiest boy I've ever seen as of late.

  • Queen Negus

    Gilbert suing and he started the mess? They both need counseling and I feel soo bad for the kids who are old enough to read the train wreck parents bs online?
    How was your weekend. You need a liver? Isj

  • Low E. {CIRCA 1908}

    TOO CLUNKY...LISARAYE HAD ON HER STANDARD ISSUE UNIFORM. HER SANDALS WERE CUTE THO.

    CMILLI? MEH.

  • Luv Pitties

    Aww I like Dylan he's so dopey and those v neck tshirts! Lol

  • Yoni

    Whatchu say..."..and that's it!" LOL

  • Queen Negus

    Who

  • Luv Pitties

    What is Fantasia loaf?

  • Luv Pitties

    I agree I am so over these celebrity cameos, Pitbull???! Really?!!?!

  • Nala Shakur

    Lol everything u said. On point. Especially the part about the hidden or overt agendas. And the constant comeos. The girl group was trash n tht lil spanish chick is annoying. The script sucks. And on top of that people aren't tuning in bc they don't wna sit thru commercials so they just wait until it airs online lol (mrworldpremiere , projectfreetv) prly the best sites since movietube got shut down lol and plus AHS Hotel aired..idk if its the same time slot but I watched both online and was kinda disappointed..all this cross dressing gay shit n a man gettin butt-raped. Smh gave me bad vibes the entire time...but still wasn't impressed. Season 3 will always be my fav. And dandy from season 4 is so damn cute to me wit his crazy spoiled cry baby ass lmao

  • Luv Pitties

    I hope Lucious effs over that broad and kicks her to the curb with no record deal.

  • Showtime

    Its definitely all over the place. The writers put themselves in a corner and don't know how to get out of it. The singing and rapping every 5 seconds is corny. So is every other characer being gay. We get it, gay folk exist.

  • Luv Pitties

    Oh yea, I'm a lion you a cub, lol

  • Nala Shakur

    I guess the Dej Loaf reject was added in for relief frm all the LSLH extras...or maybe thats just me..bc Precious and Cookies asst just wasn't enough. Just saying..

  • Luv Pitties

    I read somewhere that they will be reducing Terrence Howard's scenes because Taraji got a pay increase and he didn't and there are tensions between he and Lee Daniels.

  • http://theempirefiend.tumblr.com/ Bird

    Ain't no LSLH people on Empire. Not a one.

  • Luv Pitties

    As far as Scandal goes I am really sick of the Fitz/Liv thing. They need to draw out this mistress thing a few episodes, I am tired of Huck and Jake coming to her rescue.

  • TDW

    I just find it disappointing that Sandra gets wet in her panties (or boxers) because the ratings are slipping

  • 88

    This episode was better than the last two minus fantasia and too much cookie. They need to go back to the basics why is bunkee never mentioned?

  • Blaque Mahogany

    Interesting.

  • ShameTheDevil

    The problem is it's predicrable, scene after scene. Why watch it when clearly Lee is out of ideas. It would be worth watching if Cookie actually did succeed in the takeover and Luscious was caught slipping. It would send the message that Cookie was the only one that could touch him but to keep him untouchable and one step ahead like cookie didn't start it all is boring and predictable. The show won't last if Lee don't tighten up. He kinda gives proof that he stole the idea of empire from that guy.

  • Nala Shakur

    I meant in reference to the other "musical talents". Aside frm the other bald singer, cookies assistant, and becky, i dnt see too many deep skinned women on there...that was just MY take. Hope it doesn't offend anyone..thats not what I intended.

  • http://theempirefiend.tumblr.com/ Bird

    JR Ewing, Blake Carrington and Lucious Lyon don't get taken over by anyone. Cookie didn't start the company. They started it together and Lucious built it to what it is.

  • Futuredocdonte

    Wayment - bird I thought u said his voice was smooth like buttery liquid gold or something

  • Carla

    It's not as good ? too much fighting, and back and forth crap. The love between cookie and luscius gone makes for a bad show

  • http://theempirefiend.tumblr.com/ Bird

    They got to give her that advertising dollar if they want to become a FOB.

  • Queen Negus

    That's what I said as well!!??

  • http://theempirefiend.tumblr.com/ Bird

    I'm not offended. I was just making an observation that there are not long haired light skinned women on the show. Anika is the only light bright. Cookie and Tiana are caramel and the Becky and Porsha are brown. It seems like a nice mix.

  • Queen Negus

    Good point. I think she has a little leverage bc she is dating what's his name on the show. He problay said if you kill her off then I am gone too!!

  • Nala Shakur

    You're right . Not feelin the Fantasia Loaf tho lol

  • Low E. {CIRCA 1908}

    DON'T GET ME STARTED ON THE WINE AND SPIRITS...I HAVEN'T HAD ONE DRINK ALL WEEK BECAUSE THE PATRON WAS A LITTLE TOO PERFECT. WEEKEND WAS EXACTLY WHAT I HAD TO ENDURE TO GROW (AND THAT'S ALL I HAVE TO SAY ABOUT THAT LOL)

    GILBERT NEEDS TO JUST BOW OUT GRACEFULLY...IT'S EVIDENT HIS MIND ISN'T ON HIS KIDS/FAMILY SO JUST LET HER BE. SEND THE CHECK AND DON'T STOP BY; SHE SAID SHE STRAIGHT!

  • side_i

    ??? new cars are probably not in the police budget

  • http://ivyleaguelove.tumblr.com/ Applebootay

    last night episode was actually OK. Less jumping around...I was wondering the same thing about Anika...Like "whatcha gone do bish?". I was like now if only they could ride out with this story line, get Anika a job then itll be AIGHT...still waiting for Power to return.

  • Queen Negus

    I am glad you had a nice weekend. We need things to endure. I am about to get mine started tonight, Patron, Vodka and all with my kids
    free weekend. They have no school tomorrow and I will see them Sunday( Monday morning most like it) to start another week of homework, snacks, complaing, and paying them off to not work my last nerve?
    About the Giberts, he wants the house and want her and kids out. A real man will buy his own and keep it moving and won't put his kids out. Like I tell my Kids Dad they will have memories when they get old just like you and I. Just make theirs GOOD?

  • MsVAllDay

    Can't wait until Power comes back on.

  • Luv Pitties

    Chile....lol the Lyons damn sure got new cars though and she is acting more like a detective than an attorney stalking Lucious and whatnot

  • Low E. {CIRCA 1908}

    100! AND HE'S AN IDIOT...I THINK SHE FINALLY WISED ALL THE WAY UP.

  • Jessica

    I haven't watched last night's episode yet but the show is so different from last season; and not in a good way. The character development is poor. Anika's character is all over the place. Jamal changed WAY TOO MUCH AND TOO SOON! Cookie is too vindictive. I loved this show last season but it seems like they had so much success and they have yet to live up to the hype! Time to revamp the show.

  • Jessica

    And oh yeah, I hope they cool it on the "gay" stuff.

  • Meme81

    Yes. :D Not perfect, but bought by the blood.

  • Jessica

    And why is District Attorney wearing those low cut dresses showing her boobs at the jail and in the courthouse. Ri-dam-diculous!!

  • ?E?E?M?A

    You Dont know what the hell you talkin about

  • stav

    I don't know if it was a hit, but that was the first song I could listen to.

  • http://olskoolblackflix.com Taco Juice

    Sounds like Cookie is suffering from the Tasha Mack disease(aka When Keeping It Real Too Long Goes Wrong). Remember when the Game had the perfect balance of characters but then, as Tasha and Malik got older, they got stupider and became stereotypes even though they had business? Haven't seen last night's episode but blackish seems to be funnier this season.

  • MS PEACHES

    Anika's character was suppose to be killed off ( 1st season), but they kept her.

  • Wakando Shamar Taylor

    The show is still number 1 and now that they count on demand last week had 18 million veiwers with the on demand watchers so fox still good

  • E Love

    Sooooo glad there were no ghey scenes last night. SO GLAD!

  • pizzle

    No real debutante would work for a record label

  • Maya

    I thought the episode last night was better than the past two. I fell asleep on last week's episode....the two times I tried to watch it.

  • E Love

    Very true...

  • shell

    Whoopi was acting her azz off....

  • ShelbyMoore

    She looks like both Fantasia and Dej Loaf at the same daym time.

  • StoneColdLady

    Bird question: Why are they upset that Jamal was chosen to takeover and Cookie?

  • Deno Spencer

    I watched the episode attached with the post. It was my first time Ever watching an Empire episode. I liked it. Actually thought the music rocked especially the rap preformed by the Lyon with Cookie. I would but that track.

  • Deno Spencer

    I would buy that track I meant to say.

  • Mel

    Yes she did not disappoint and I see them chicks from Orange is the new black getting their coins with them guest roles

  • scentsychick30

    I haven't watched svu since stabler left?and I love blackish so I rotate on Wednesday nights. I watched empire last night and loved it??Even watched rosewood. Chris bosh looked extra special ?like he was in the car snacking on crayons,this is also a good show.

  • scentsychick30

    I know I'm old because I thought the rapper chick was def loaf or whatever her name is??

  • Divame

    You failed to mention the DVR amounts from last week, sis.... Empire is still drawing in the mindless drones but they did lose me with their gay agenda and poorly written script. Last year was fire, this year is desperate stars grasping for their egos...

  • lilli lilian

    "Cookie tripping amplified to the point of annoyance" LOL

  • Lorenzo Chaps

    It's like watching a continuation of season 1. The only character that has changed is Jamal. He's doing a horrible job being a bad guy, btw. It was fun while it lasted. I got home about 920'ish last night and didn't even care that I missed a good bit of it.

    And this is where you fire the entire writing staff, Lee Daniels, and anybody else. You then bring in some heavy hitters with proven successful track records to get this show going . I said many a times, Taraji's antics will not be enough to carry the show. Tell us a story, piece the story together that extends an entire season. Instead, their actively selling us cds and bad music week after week. They're going to lose another 3M by season's end.

    Oh well.

  • Hugga Bunch

    Question, why does Dre call Lucious "Pop" so much this season. He never said that in season 1...
    Dude is my boo and all, but this begging Daddy for your spot back is becoming more and more redundant. They keep that up, his character/storyline will become just as useless as Anika's. Plus, complete fail for the writers making Anika decide to work for/with Cookie. Makes no sense whatsoever. She should hate Cookie as much as Lucious. I don't want to admit this show is losing momentum...ugh.

    I just can't with all the wasted potential. ?

  • Hugga Bunch

    ? omfg...

  • Hugga Bunch

    Some of ya'll agree with Fantasia Loaf and I say Fern Gully lol

    (All I could see when she was onscreen)

  • Unita Lucinda “Lucy” Freebush

    Final Destination

  • stanhope

    she would have you believe that she is a light skinned AKA with visions of Link-dom. Neither one would do the shimmy in a coochie dress for a white lesbian because her mama and grandmama would jack up dat ass ergo she must be one of those few light Deltas.

  • stanhope

    The shyster lawyer is the new star

  • stanhope

    why is she showing her rack with that poodle scowl on her face.....as was said in the Color Purple by Shug Avery...Mz Seeley you show is ugly

  • Junkanoo

    I read somewhere they fired all of the writers from season 1 Because they wanted a raise with the show becoming an instant success. Serves the show right for firing the very people who helped to establish the shows success. The constant nonstop singing is annoying, it's a nite time soap opera not a bloody musical.

  • more

    ya it waas damn good!! IDK WHAT PEOPLE TALKING ABOUT

  • Glenda Nichole

    Didn't they say last weeks ratings didn't tally the delayed (DVR) viewing, Sandra? I saw a report on Yahoo and thought the show was doing better, not worse.

  • ShameTheDevil

    Fact remains the show is predictable and also he couldn't build to anything without her start up

  • Prettybootnikki

    Why Porscha resembles Big Freeda to me.

  • Well.well$well

    Meh. The DVR totals haven't been included yet. Last week, counting DVR recordings ,19 million people watched Empire..I ?Power but 50 knows they aren't coming close to those type of numbers. Ijs

  • Luv Pitties

    You ain't never lied about her and her hard features lol

  • http://sandrarose.com SandraRose

    DVR totals are insignificant. People DVR shows while they watch. If you watch Empire on DVR 100 times it doesn't mean 100 people watched the show.

  • Tee

    None of the above truly is the reason. The first episode was to much with sex episode with the two males. The music is the best part of the show. They also promised a double episode for the first night and didn't deliver. The lawyer is taking away from the show and what happen to the security guard from season 1.

  • Pebbles

    Exactly! On the show Scandal everyone know that Cyrus is gay but it's not shoved down our throats each week....

  • first page

    i lost a good friend for saying it's too much gayism in the show. Errbody don't have to be gay for it to be a good show. 2 wks ago I was like nooooo Cookie! So friend say, you sound homophobic. Im like Really?! Get a storyline! Its been happening for years!!

    been holding on to this stress...i hope she calls #sadwithouther

    HAPPY FRIDAY AND HAVE A LONG GREAT WEEKEND!

  • Shaylove1975

    Empire lost many audiences. The way they talk badly of God is a big problem. The Christians no longer watch. This season everything is about gay this and that. Then all the drama on set and minimizing roles is going to cause the show to be cancelled.

  • Ant Hill

    Hey genius....Power does over 1 million on STARZ network...Empire did only 12 million on a FREE station FOX...smarten up dummy

  • JUDGEMENTAL

    i agree with 50 cents, alot of people are tired of seeing gay men kissing and acting like females on these tv shows, if you notice the most popular shows on TV now no longer have this element.

    THE SHOW OVERALL: THEYRE JUST TRYING TOO HARD.

  • stanley

    LOL Empire will be okay. 7-8 million viewers is enough for them to stay on the air, so they still got room. I only agree with the script. It does jump around alot, But Most Comedy/dramas on TV are exactly the same way.... If you want to watch something with real character development you have to watch serious shows like Scandal & How to get away with murder.

  • Soon2BWife

    If there are new writers then it makes sense that season 2 doesn't make sense. None of the chracters supporting characters look or act tge same. Dre all of a sudden becoming useless and begging his "Pops" for his job back, Hakim being besties with his mom, Jamal who was sensitive and a pariah to his dad is now Luscious' ruthless golden boy, Anika being bisexual and wanting to work for Cookie, come on! They seem to be trying to start all over in a new direction instead of picking up where the origional writers left off which is nothing but ego. It is rather insulting that the show runners didn't think we would notice. Seems like they said just make Cookie more ghetto and "they" won't know the difference.

  • SuggaB

    This show is too beige for me. Boring and predictable.

  • odu

    THAT'S A N SHOW, I CAN NOT STAND THE PRODUCER HE HAS A BIG LOUD MOUTH, AND DON'T KNOW NOTHING, GO BACK INTO THE CLOSET NASTY PERSON.

  • Mrs Mary

    the music is too much , terrible and annoying! it's like an old tyler perry play too much singing and not enough good acting! I stopped watching after a few minutes of the first episode. also tariji is too good for this mess, they are making even her be annoying, at first her attitude was cute, now her character is annoying too. imma need them to rewrite redirect and reproduce, this show is a mess and like you said, nobody can sing.

  • silvia2015

    yes indeed-it never gets old watching those crime shows-

  • Silenceisgolden

    Honestly, i never saw what the hype was all about but i still check it out anyway.

  • bettie

    Have they hired any dark girls to play a sexy role on this show aside from Naomi Campbell? Why is lil Selena there?

  • mzwhang90210

    Sorry to read that.
    Can you find it in your heart to call..or at least text your friend, telling her that you didn't mean to offend her & that you love & miss her?
    Hope it works out.

  • mzwhang90210

    Shelby..your gravi...

  • HoneyDipper

    This show is so wrong this season. They have too many new people coming and going. And the characters personalities are jumbled. Jamal is horrible singing and he's disrespectful to his mom the only one who had his back, Hakeem is a slore, they took Tianna completely off because of course the gay writer wanna keep the men in the forefront. They are making cookie look old with her hair and makeup. They've made Anika an escort and a weakling I mean her family is powerful and rich why are they making her twerk and sleep with women? And Andre is now a crying wuss.

  • leah198082

    I personally thought season1 was also all over d place. Dont know which son shes supporting any minute. No solid foundations. Its just all abt cookies antics & d gay guys rejection.

    And power gets better each season. You can watch it online for free @sandrarose - if u want to catch up. I wld definitely watch black-ish over empire time and again.

  • first page

    I texted her. After a week, she called and realized she overreacted. The thing is we all have our opinions but presentation is everything nowadays. I don't get offended when she say what she says about me. I take it and keep a movin because I look at it as her opinion, not fact.

  • http://triumphoverpoverty.com Therealsyxx

    To much hay stuff ia true. I watched the entire first season. The second season first episode. I was done. Have not seen it since.