disney backlash

Disney World closed all beaches on its Lake Buena Vista, Florida property after a Nebraska toddler was drowned by an alligator on Tuesday.

Divers found the "completely intact" body of 2-year-old Lane Graves in about 6 feet of water on Wednesday.

The body was recovered just 15 feet away from where an alligator snatched Lane as he waded in a man-made lagoon with his parents and siblings at 9:15 p.m. on Tuesday.

A lifeguard said the boy waded 10 feet out into the murky lagoon water.

Unlike the outcry when a gorilla was killed to rescue a black boy at a Cincinnati zoo last month, the same public has been highly critical of Disney World.

Zoo officials shot and killed rare silverback gorilla, Harambe, to rescue 4-year-old Isiah Gregg who fell into the enclosure on May 28.

There was a massive public outcry as animal lovers circulated petitions and sent death threats to the boy's mother, who is black, for not monitoring him.

No such outcry has been directed to Lane's parents, Matthew and Melissa Graves, who are Caucasian.

Despite the "no swimming" signs all over the place, the Graves allowed their toddler to wade 10 feet away from them at night.

But many criticize the theme park and resort for not warning guests about alligators lurking in the waters.

It's hard to reconcile the public's empathy toward one set of parents with the outrage directed at another set of parents under similar circumstances.

Is Disney really at fault for little Lane's tragic death, or is it his parents' fault for ignoring the signs?

  • laidbackgal4real

    Smh ... WE all know what's up !

  • E-VannaRootsAllEvil

    If the signs say "no swimming" then no swimming. The parents are at fault for this

  • Jusstlookn

    No such outcry has been directed to Lane’s parents, Matthew and Melissa Graves, who are Caucasian.

    Despite the “no swimming” signs all over the place, the Graves allowed their toddler to wade 10 feet away from them at night.

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    But they will not be charged and will.ve treated like saints.

  • Jen_n_juice

    Is Disney really at fault for little Lane’s tragic death, or is selective racism at play?
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    This is rhetorical right?

  • Jen_n_juice

    To THEM putting your get in water ain't swimming. US any body part in water = swimming

  • GubmentCheeze

    The boy in the gorilla cage was seen yelling and pushing by witnesses saying he wanted to get into the cage. While his momma ignored him and he took it upon himself to jump and crawl through a gate. This little boy was in the "happiest place on earth" chilling with his momma and daddy who were negligent didn't read the signs and he gets snatched up by a gator. In these cases both sets parents were neglectful and not paying attention. But we all know that the media is gonna spin this ish....

  • NegraGata

    Both the parents and Disney are at fault. BUT, yeah of course white privilege is at play here, when is it not???!!!

  • Whiplash(lacejagger)

    We use to stay at a days in near international blvd in Orlando, every summer when we vacationed. The property had 3 ponds, and you could see the gators.. There was no protective fence or anything. In fact I can remember the playground being near info of the ponds..

  • HIS4EVA

    No such outcry has been directed to Lane’s parents, Matthew and Melissa Graves, who are Caucasian.

  • SG

    This is some bull SMH. If the sign said No Swimming then they shouldn't have gotten in the water at all. It is Florida for crying out loud. And where is the outrage that 4 or 5 gators were killed and opened up in the search for the baby's remains??? People be doing too much.

  • SouljaSociety

    Yall know this alligator story is fake just like the orlando story right?

  • Ms. Jackson

    Exactly! This shit been on my mind since the story broke. I'm like wayment! No charges for the white folk, but u was ready to fuk the black couple with NO VASELINE!

  • http://sandrarose.com SandraRose

    Since y'all want to argue about everything, I changed it to, "or is it his parents' fault for ignoring the signs?"

  • KB

    I wish I could share this post. There were practically lynch mobs forming for that mother, some of them were on this board. I don't hear nothing even close directed at the parents in this scenario. I'm over the hypocrisy of it all. KMA ?!

  • Realhiphopsearch

    Though I felt at first it was selective racism
    I rethought my conclusion
    It's not like the boy fell into the water and drowned
    He was snatched by a gator

    No signs were posted warning Alligators in Lake

    That changes things dramatically
    As an adult I would be terrified to go near the water especially at night if i knew gators were in there and possibly could leap out and snatch me in

    Little man didnt stand a chance
    His family didn't know
    No warning signs of Alligators

  • my view

    huh?? how you figure?

  • T3

    Sign says no swimming period! Did there need to be a mention of alligators? I would never know what's in the water if there was a no swimming sign cause I ain't getting in. And especially at 9:00 at night with visibility limited. Bad decision. Unfortunate it costs this poor baby his sweet little life.

  • morenYAHdelsur

    Please, do elaborate...

  • HIS4EVA

    //

  • NavyWife11

    Here is the thing: people was screaming for the parents to be charged in the gorilla incident days before we found out they were black. Also, if you go to message boards on other sites, people ARE blaming the parents of this little boy.

  • http://sandrarose.com SandraRose

    They aren't rare. There are over 1.3 million alligators in Florida swamps and canals. Those things breed like roaches.

  • Just Keya

    Does that sign say no playing or swimming? I'm off this story because I'm so torn on blame. So I'm a hush. Good morning you all

  • KB

    Yes, the authorities made it crystal clear there would be no charges EARLY. It took how long for the black family to endure that stress from the public and waiting to see if they would be charged. Exactly! SMDH!

  • B.Sweet is Savage

    I need a new topic. My position remains the same.

    I'm working today.

  • BicoastBlackGirlGeek

    I shared this on twitter, I want to know where it is cool to let a TWO YEAR OLD at NIGHT go anywhere that is murky water. I am so over the world right now...

  • Genia Gouch

    I am not sure about this alligator story anymore...here's why...1). they were there to watch the fireworks...so that apparently indicates it was at night 2). a major park..(DISNEY) had signs indicating "no swiming" ....but no signs warnings about aligators...3). at night in a major park, in dark murky water you allow your 2year old to wade 10 ft out? 4).his body was intact.....sooooooooo hypothetically speaking is this the perfect "HTGAWM" story line or what

  • yoni

    What was it originally?

  • Well.well$well

    The sheriff said there were no signs saying there were alligators. I kind of believe his version because what sane parent would let their 2 year old jump in a lagoon if there was a warning....

  • Bam Bam Li

    The sign should have said there were mudda freaking gators not no swimming! Yes they're too blame, but you can not blame them for a gator sneaking up and grabbing that baby. This story is only comparable to the Gorilla story only for he fact that a better eye should have been kept. But in all honesty, two completely different situations.

  • KB

    Yep.?

  • B.Sweet is Savage

    10 ft is not just getting your feet wet.

  • Just Keya

    As always in here, I am confused. No charges were filed against the black people in the zoo thing. The momma or daddy did not go to jail. So why y'all saying how these white people did not get a charge and all of that as if the black people did? Like why y'all gotta make everything about race?! Every damn thing. No matter what it is. Some days it's annoying as hell. We can't just focus on the fact that someone's child is dead? Damn.

  • KB

    You've been jacked....Thank you. ?

  • rodt

    black baby vs white one

  • Da Puppet Mistress

    I love this response. Put it in words how I felt as well

  • rodt

    get some help bruh

  • Louisville Is4TheBirds

    MESSAGE!!!

  • my view

    yes it did. it just didn't have the alligator warning sign

  • Sucker Free

    There is a glaring difference...one child lived...the other died horrificly

    Its harder to criticize someone who is suffering, no?

  • Da Puppet Mistress

    Gm.

    I'm torn too man. This one I go back and forth on. I also read the kid WAS not in the water. They were on shoreline. Many news outlets reporting THAT too. None of em were in the water in that scenario.

  • B.Sweet is Savage

    This is an unfortunate situation. Maybe this would have been avoided if the parents had obeyed the signs. They were neglectful. Perhaps Disney should put up saying this is gator country so stay yo ass out the water. I don't think Disney is liable but they may pay up to avoid a lawsuit.

  • Da Puppet Mistress

    If you don't get help at Charter. ..

  • Saharabutnotdry

    Crocs agenda you say?

  • BKLYNS MAMA

    Girl..."they" will not let that happen....white folks being charged, nope! ...and they already killed 5 gators...Where is the funkin' out cry for the gators..

  • my view

    not that it matters. someone lost their child and that should be what's important.

  • http://sandrarose.com SandraRose

    Most upscale Florida homes have screens enclosures around their pools to keep the mosquitos and alligators out.

  • Mystery User

    #1 - put your kid to bed before 9 even on vacay
    #2 - watch your kid
    #3 - learn to read or ask for assistance
    #4 Disney don't care about you they just care about your $
    #5 Vacation closer to home next time.
    II blame the parents...I said it before when Harambee was killed for nothing and I will say it now. Keep your eyes on your kids...Your kid may be cute, but not watching them ain't cute at all.
    Don't fault the alligator for being an alligator. You came to his house you play by his rules.
    Everyone and they momma know that any body of water in FL is subject to be full of gators (pools too!) - sh*t isn't that their state animal? LOL
    Is anyone going to see THE SHALLOWS? #icantswim #imhereforit

  • Louisville Is4TheBirds

    Charlamagne said ppl only cry about killing animals we dont eat... looks like that is true

  • Just Keya

    My mom was reading one news story, not off a gossip blog, that the baby was in the water but mom and dad were not right there and the play pen with the sister was 30 yards away. I honestly feel like the same way I said the zoo mom was at fault for not paying attention so we're these parents. Race don't have shit to do with it. And Disney at fault too. Where are the gator signs? Everyone gets some of the blame. But these folks talking about oh because they are white, when them being white don't have nothing to do with nothing.

  • Saharabutnotdry

    Dis?

  • Just Keya

    Exactly.

  • Da Puppet Mistress

    Negligence has no race. Media wrong tho. Where this dad criminal history at?

  • MissHarlem

    Like I said yesterday, watch your damn child. Especially at night.
    OAN internet window shopping got me in a fantasy.

  • nucynu25

    BC boo, they were trying to charge the blk parents ..just bc we dont see race that doesn't mean others dont .

  • yoni

    Sounds logical.

  • Miss Thang

    Why the hell would ANYONE wade into murky Florida water? Or ANY murky water?? Dirty and nasty people. I'm from Florida. We know there's all kinds of creatures in our bodies of water. Gators, snakes, turtles etc. damn even rats and raccoons can swim. You don't put your child in a body of water that you cannot see to the bottom. What idiots! This baby should be here today.

  • Da Puppet Mistress

    You know about 3 folks coming to tell you the answer is bc of slavery NakeyaJ. You know this right? Okay sis.

  • Mystery User

    PETA stans for all animals... edible or otherwise!

  • Just Keya

    I don't care if they never bring it out. That's where I am at with it. The baby was found with the body in tact. A few puncture wounds. So that baby could of lived if the parents....nevermind because that's my personal opinion. The baby did not get eaten. Regardless, I'm trying to figure out why everyone so focused on race. Like nothing else matters.

  • B.Sweet is Savage

    I'm from NC where people swim in ponds and off roadside bridges in water that wouldn't be safe for consumption if you boiled it for 10 days. There are signs up that say don't swim in this water but they do it anyway. Some of them get sick, some of them have gotten bad infections and others have died.

    Does Disney have to give you details on why you need to stay out of the water or do you just need to obey the sign? Maybe they should just change the sign. Growing up when my momma gave me a directice, if I asked questions she asked me why I was back talking her. 'Go do what I told you to do Bull and stop asking all them dayum questions.' ?

  • Sucker Free

    They are both at fault. But Disney's negligence is comparatively more than the parents negligence. They will settle out of court.

    RIP Lane

    I'm going to west palm next month and gator will be on the menu ??

  • Just Keya

    Well before they do: DONT. I don't want to hear shit about no damn slavery. Save it. Don't bother.

  • E-VannaRootsAllEvil

    Exactly wth

  • BKLYNS MAMA

    hmmmm...

  • Da Puppet Mistress

    White man has got to PAY. Blog logic.

  • Jahnée Gill Mr.Eddie Murphy

    I'm siding with Disney. Its 9:00 at night why is your two year old child playing in 10ft of dirty water alone? The signs said no swimming. That should have been enough of a warning for his parents. His parents negligence is what killed him not the damn gator. Where was everyone else when the child just wandered off? No one noticed he was gone? Why weren't his older siblings with him? So many questions.

  • QueenyBean

    Wait?! This happened at night? I am not a parent and I usually don't judge people's parenting skills, but ummmmmm this lil baby was not in pool in his backyard.
    #commonsensenotatallcommon

  • Just Keya

    Yes Disney does because the gators don't just stay in the water. JMO

  • Mystery User

    I thought that was strange too... Why would an alligator drag a piece of meat and not eat it? Or any other alligator?

  • Miss Thang

    I'm sorry for visitors, but we floridians know what's up. Gators are in damn near every body of water here. Florida is a damn swamp. We are in their territory.

  • E-VannaRootsAllEvil

    They clearly was acting like they was in Nebraska. Like where the fawkl y'all thought y'all was at

  • yoni

    The ONLY reason I think race is playing a part is because of how the media dug up the (criminal/past) history of the black man as if that was why the child ended up in the gorilla pen in the first place. The father wasn't even at the zoo. They vilified this family, but didn't do it in any other cases where children vs. animal happened, is all. I guess. I think therein lies the outrage for the most part. I could be wrong. Won't be the first or the last time. IJS :kiss:

  • Da Puppet Mistress

    Imma wait right here. They coming. Well no need to wait. They normally don't show up til like 230 am EST. We will see them tomorrow. *snorts*

  • Just Keya

    You sound like my momma. She said some of this exact same stuff last night. Said no two year old should be in no damn lake some 9 at night. She was hot.

  • MissHarlem

    I think the point that's being made is the parents of this white child wasn't vilified in the media. They got sympathy as well as a sense of empathy. The black parents got the opposite. It's hard not to see that. We know a baby is dead but we are also allowed to focus on more than one tragedy: a baby's dead and the way we are portrayed in the media. Again hard to ignore.

  • E-VannaRootsAllEvil

    Where they do dat at?

  • B.Sweet is Savage

    I disagree. It's the whole state of Florida. It's not just Disney. If it says don't walk on the grass then don't walk on the grass. If it says don't swim then don't swim. There's only so much Disney can do to protect you from yourself.

  • Just Keya

    IDGAF. First thing some people wanna do is blame slavery. News flash: everything in life is not the white mans fault. Learn to take responsibility for your own shit.

  • Da Puppet Mistress

    Gator a real food for a girl with Cajun ruts like myself.

  • 88

    Where is the petition to have the parents charged for child neglect? Oops I forgot their white.

  • yoni

    This.

  • B.Sweet is Savage

    It's because of slavery. You're welcome. ?

  • yoni

    Stawp it. LOL

  • yoni

    Ass. LOL

  • E-VannaRootsAllEvil

    Country azz folks don learned tiday

  • B.Sweet is Savage

    I'm on this here blawg seeeeww I don't know what logic is.

  • Just Keya

    Don't kiss me. Lol. No I'm joking!! :kiss and hug: I get that and what Harlem is saying but I'm just tired of it man. Don't mind me.

  • B.Sweet is Savage

    I'm being Dubb.

  • Just Keya

    She not kidding though.

  • Just Keya

    Ok

  • yoni

    water that wouldn't be safe for consumption if you boiled it for 10 days
    ________________________
    :ghost:
    #Flintwater

  • Da Puppet Mistress

    The Neuse. Someone up there swimming off New Bern Ave as it turns into Knightdale right now probably. Blacks, whites, and Hispanic

  • MissHarlem

    Ijs. Extremely hard not to see that.

  • Look@m3

    LMBO I heard gator meat is pretty good and tender...

  • Sucker Free

    Come on people...their toddler died in the mouth of an alligator...what prosecutor would take this case....what jury would convict them?

    Zoo incident pales in comparison to this

  • yoni

    I know.

  • Just Keya

    See but that's my point. I'm from up north. Never been down south. I would have no idea it's that easy for a gator to waddle run up and snatch you up. That's why I feel like they need signs. However, like I said yesterday, if the sign says no swimming or playing in the water then stay out of the water. But I feel like gator signs should be up. CYA.

  • Da Puppet Mistress
  • yoni

    Blog logic. We are well versed in THAT. LOL

  • Full Monty

    Sorry but you really can't compare these two cases. Lane isn't coming back ever while Isiah is alive and well. Those parents don't need to be charged with anything. I am sure they are blaming themselves and suffering enough. Those who have lost a child understand this rather than those who have not. When did witch hunts start taking over human decency?

  • MissHarlem

    Well I answered sensibly for them so that takes care of that.

  • Just Keya

    No you did not! You offended me and we are no longer e friends. *stomps feet like Ju* lmfao. If people could answer in a way that was not so damn militant, maybe I would feel different. But your right though.

  • MotherOfDragons, GetOffMyENuts

    You forgot white supremacy too...

  • Miss Thang

    Florida is a damn swamp. We live in gator territory. At the entry way of Florida, they just need to put a sign that says "you are now entering a damn swamp and the Capitol of gators. Enter at your own risk."

  • Just Keya

    And how we are asleep.

  • PettyEyezPrime

    We would go to the lakes and look at the people swimming in amazement. They have the crabs (ocean ones) you can catch (with a net). I've been to the man-made "beaches" in NC. I don't get in ANYTHING I can't see through. It's so many things in that water and people LOVING IT.

  • Da Puppet Mistress

    Said that below. Media wrong as hell. Where this daddy criminal report at?

  • BKLYNS MAMA

    it taste like chicken...I had some in New Orleans during Mardi Gard

  • Shay boogie

    So it was ok to wish death threats and charges against a mother whose child ran away WITHOUT her knowing.....simply bc her child lived? Oh

  • Di Ana

    They from Nebraska... they don't know no better.

  • MissHarlem

    ??. It's the delivery that's wrong but the message is right. The papers alone is like poor baby vs the zoo. Mofos had mugshots of the father etc WTF. I'm over the way we lay down and take it when we are vilified in the media. Conditioned to cry for the white baby vs the black. Both are tragic. SMH

  • Da Puppet Mistress

    Nutria.

  • Full Monty

    You miss the point. At the end of the day, her child IS STILL ALIVE THOUGH! Who cares if she got death threats she should be happy she didn't have bury her son.

  • Liz

    I think the issue is the opposite we should have common decency towards everyone included the parents at the zoo. Dragging up his criminal record and slandering the mum didn't help the situation at all. There should have been more focus on how to make the exhibit safer

  • Just Keya

    But that's where I'm at. Both were tragic. Both were wrong. IMO. That's all.

  • MotherOfDragons, GetOffMyENuts

    I agree with your mom.

  • Da Puppet Mistress

    And river rats. And copperheads. And flying roaches. And lizards.

  • MotherOfDragons, GetOffMyENuts

    ...and coons.

  • Just Keya

    0_0 what?! Ewww

  • Full Monty

    Why are you pretending white folk don't get down like that? It is nothing new. She still, at the end of the day, gets to see her son and be with him.

  • Shay boogie

    I understood your point, I just don't agree. Their child is dead bc of THEIR negligence. Do I feel sorry for them, ABSOLUTELY but you don't get to attack one family and not the other.

  • Just Keya

    Shuckin and dancing a Jig for the man. Lol. Yup. Sounds about right.

  • MotherOfDragons, GetOffMyENuts

    All that. Central Fl is a swampy miasma of gross and dangerous wildlife. Disney was built ON a swamp.

  • Full Monty

    I'm not attacking anyone.

  • PettyEyezPrime

    People be loving swamp tours. Got shows about swaps and fuggin with gators. You can't not follow directions and be mad about the consequences. Many pools have the "no diving" sign. Your @ss dives and cracks your skull, you have to be mad at yourself. Hell, how many parents tell their child(ren) not to do something without going into specific details about why you said it? The sign said "no swimming". I hate that we live in a world where folks don't claim responsibility for THEIR part.

  • Jahnée Gill Mr.Eddie Murphy

    I agree with your Mother. I don't even go into the kitchen with out my niece behind me. Hell when I'm taking a shower she's in the bathroom with me on her iPad. Sitting waiting and I still peek out to see if shes there. I even talk to her while I'm in there . She's very intelligent but she's 2 going on 3 she cries real tears if you tell her you're not her friend. She still a baby I'd never leave her alone like that.

  • LibraGirlonly

    They white so it's not needed.

  • Liz

    Yes but I can demand more of others. I don't have to accept less

  • nucynu25

    There will be no out cry. This is a white little boy, lil Tyrone life wasn't more valuable than a gorilla. I said this from the very beginning. Mfs can keep their sunglasses on and act like race doesn't play apart but it always rears its ugly head.

  • Just Keya

    I've never been. Never had a real desire to go. But now knowing this mess, I'll go to the one out California. Sorry Flordia. I'm not messing with all of that. Nope.

  • BKLYNS MAMA

    Right...signs need to be posted....but, in greedy America..If you have Beware of Gators signs posted...especially in "Disney" how many ppl will go? they cant make no money from that... Disney, need to be sued up they ass...for that..

  • MissHarlem

    And that's OK as well. I personally don't give self inflicted things thought whether accident or not. In general so I'm indifferent about tragic up top.

  • MotherOfDragons, GetOffMyENuts

    Disney World is WAAAAAYYYYYYY better than Disneyland IMO. Plus I dont see you letting your kids wander off so you'll be fine. Go. Disney and Universal are EPIC.

  • Da Puppet Mistress

    I've been to the man-made "beaches" in NC
    ^^^^^

    Where we here in the NC capital get our water from? A man made lake. Falls Lake. Yes it has a beach. Sandlin Beach .

  • PettyEyezPrime

    California just had an earthquake of 5.2. It's a risk no matter where you go. Hey Keya and BabyBellyKeya.

  • http://Copblock.org aDingoDrankMyBabies

    Interesting...Have any conspiracy theorist speculated that maybe he was never snatched by a gator?? Not that I believe that. I breeze over this story cuzz it's so sad?

  • Just Keya

    Harlem you are indifferent on most things in general. Lol. You don't take people not bring them #MyMommasLogic and I love that.

  • PettyEyezPrime

    I love it there. It's magical at EVERY age.

  • PettyEyezPrime

    That real estate came cheap... "Walt Disney bought the 43 square miles of Central Florida swampland for Disney World for $5 million, or about $185 an acre" per statesman. I watched many documentaries on this.

  • SG

    I know. I thought most people knew this. The family is from Nebraska, so maybe they didn't.

  • Just Keya

    Heyyyy!!! And ask BabyBellyKeya to get out. She has been served. Lol

  • Jen&Juice

    Being a native and most of you all clearly not, it is very apparent that there is a lot of ignorance when it comes to Florida. First and foremost we do not have alligator attacks often and in fact since 1973 there has only been 23 and this would be 24 ( This information came from Animal Control), secondly they were not at "the happiest place in the world" as someone put, they were not at the park, the were at a resort at night. So as much as we may want to put the blame on Florida's ecosystem or Disney even though they had a sign clearly saying do not swim, the blame can only be put on these two idiots we call the parents of the deceased boy and if you ask me something sounds fishy! .......BTW I am new to this blog. Hi everyone!

  • LibraGirlonly

    I guess Disney will be offering discounts in their vacation packages soon. The parents are going to sue and the bad press is gonna kill the stock.

  • stanhope

    Give me strength! That child's body was not intact. Disney PR at work. Disney will settle this rather than suffer more PR damage. There is no excuse for not having the area posted with signs warning of this danger....case closed. What parent could be expected to just know of such a threat? That another family spotted an alligator the week before and got a picture spells doom for Disney. They WILL settle and it will go away.

  • E-VannaRootsAllEvil

    They don't have a case.

  • MotherOfDragons, GetOffMyENuts

    It really is. Not a relaxing vacation but we love it and go every year. We're doing it in October this year. Less heat and Halloween there should be amazing.

  • Mystery User

    Hello!
    Please pick your welcome packet up before you leave today and enjoy.

  • Full Monty

    Hummmm. That's an interesting theory.

  • Just Keya

    My son has been with his fathers people's. I'll get to one of them one day. Just seems like a lot of standing in line. Shoot, for that reason I have not been back to Six Flags. You will be in line for one ride all damn day. I can't.

  • E-VannaRootsAllEvil

    Hello!

  • MissHarlem

    You're not dumb so you and the children will be fine.

  • yoni

    But I think I've seen your name before, no?

  • Saharabutnotdry

    They are already offering free stay to the guests because of this tragedy .

  • @kabyeyou

    sign said keep your ass out the lake. They should of kept they ass out the lake

  • E-VannaRootsAllEvil

    I thought the same thing o well

  • Just Keya

    Hello!! Nice to see you and welcome. Someone will be around with a welcome packet shortly.

  • LibraGirlonly

    Blacks are gonna get vilified no matter what,that's why the Orlando shooter said he didn't have no problem with black people they have it bad enough. Smh

  • MotherOfDragons, GetOffMyENuts

    I believe so.

  • Da Puppet Mistress

    The employees at the resort had been complaining about the gators too. People who are native/live there. Orlando Sentinel got ahold of at least one of the emails that was sent. Prior to this. Way prior

  • ReadingIsFundamental4Real

    I'm not sure it's Disney's "fault" but, they are legally responsible.

  • MissHarlem

    THIS

  • LibraGirlonly

    The lawyers have already said Disney will have to pay.

  • nucynu25

    Exactly....the media made it abt race & we are not going to act like they didn't..

  • stanhope

    Bullshyt...the difference is the first parents are Black and the good YT people went to immediately blaming them while being outraged over the f'ing gorilla. The YT parents got immediate sympathy and will get a hefty check. America at it's finest!

  • PettyEyezPrime

    BabyBellyKeya, sweetheart, you need to exit the premises. It's a lot more space the outside. Folks can't wait to see, meet and love on you.

  • stanhope

    Amen

  • Orchidjones

    Oh if this was so a black baby... and I know there are people who wish it were. Back in the days they used to bait gators with black babies for sport. I hate screaming the race card in every damn incident that surface the news but if it walks and quacks like a duck.......

  • Just Keya

    Lmao. You on my IG right? Lol. I am right damn there with these crazy kids. As scary as I am, I can't afford to let the lose out here. Nope. Especially that little one. Dubb will tell you, she is a real trip.

  • SpillyNillie

    When the Isiah fell into the gorilla cage, everyone wanted to know where the mother was. Why didn't she have an eye on her child? The same can be said about this mother. It's obvious that neither parent was directly with Lane while he played in the water. So the same comments can be made about her. Sadly, Lane's mother paid the ultimate price- she lost her child.

    I do believe that if Isiah had died, judgement on his mother would be a lot harsher. She was black and this is the world we live in.

  • E-VannaRootsAllEvil

    Y tho they had they child in murky water at night??? How is Disney liable?

  • Full Monty

    At the end of the day, is it going to bring the little boy back with the blame game?

  • LibraGirlonly

    I also heard they had chairs by the lake as if it was ok to chill there.

  • nucynu25

    We have...

  • Just Keya

    PEP I'm so ready. You just don't know. In pain. And I really just want to see her.

  • nucynu25

    Don't bother boo.

  • MissyJ

    But the blame game would bring a gorilla back?

  • Sucker Free

    News reports say the commotion probably scared the alligator so he dropped the boy...

    They don't eat humans normally the gator likely mistook the boy for a small animal

  • Da Puppet Mistress

    Hola!

  • LibraGirlonly

    Correct it's sad but true.

  • ReadingIsFundamental4Real

    it's their property.

  • yoni

    Maybe because the sign didn't specially say "ALLIGATORS IN WATER". You know you gotta be 'pacific about shit. Which you do.

  • MotherOfDragons, GetOffMyENuts

    I don't blame Disney. I love Disney. Disney Resorts are wonderful too. "Happiest Place on EARTH" btw. Welcome.

  • Meme

    Ok just throwing it out there the child's body was completely intact... Where there any witnesses that saw the actual croc grab the baby or did they deliberately drown the child pretend it got taken by croc for a payday from Disney? Stranger things have happened

  • tintin

    sorry but that water was really dirty, i don't even know why anyone would of put their foot in there. it looked like swamp water.

  • PettyEyezPrime

    I want to go around Christmas soo bad. This girl I know went last year and said she loved it and it was beautiful. I

  • Saharabutnotdry

    You have to warn about animals .

  • Paige

    Common sense! You are in Florida. Sign saying No Swimming is enough. You shouldn't have to post a sign that's says," No Swimming" "There are alligators, snakes, poisonous frogs, electrical currents, lizards, and etc in the water". When people fail to follow rules bad things happen. I feel terrible for this family, but they should have not been in that water!

  • BKLYNS MAMA

    Basically....they saying that lil Laine just drowned...Really? they putting that spin on it. So ppl wont b scared and will return. If folks have an image of a baby being eating by a gator at "Disney" you think they gon come the fck back? ...

  • i troll it like i see it

    He was a cute little guy. Parents simply should not have allowed him in the water and "murky lagoon water" doesn't even sound like it would have been inviting to them...would they have wanted to play in it? the baby doesn't know, he can't read or tell that the water is gross let alone dangerous. The signs are up for a reason. Why did they let him in play in it?

  • Liz

    When you go do the Fast Pass its so worth it

  • mzbestseller

    Wayment? I never got my welcome packet and I been here a while. This aint eeennnn right?

  • MotherOfDragons, GetOffMyENuts

    I doubt it.

  • surprise2012

    I believe it's the parents fault. Wasn't there signs that said NO SWIMMING? To me that means don't go in the water or possibly near the water. The way it sounds the parents weren't even close enough to at least reach their child. Either way this is tragic and seems like something out of a movie. RIP lil Lane.

  • Just Keya

    OMG WHY did my mom say that?! Jesus. I told her that sounds just like this episode of Law and Order I saw. But damn it if she ain't say that. And really, I would not be shocked. People do crazy shit.

  • L.T.L. Since 2007

    Sad situation all around. But I don't think you can blame Disney. This situation is no different than them posting a sign saying "No Standing on Rides" or "Keep Arms and Legs Inside the Ride". Those simple directives should be enough. And if you stand up and happen to fall 50 ft and die that's your fault. If you hang your arms out, they get chopped off and now you have to write with your feet, that too, is your fault. No one should have to put a long a$$ list of reasons why. Follow the directions and safely take your a$$ home.

  • Mystery User

    IF that makes me a conspiracy theorist then I wear the title proud. I'm not above thinking this was another boy in the forest story...
    How you only get scratches from trying to beat an alligator down? How you don't come back with at least 1/2 a boy?
    #justsayin

  • ReadingIsFundamental4Real

    same reason my nasty people in Houston go play in the Gulf of Mexico... yuk.

  • LibraGirlonly

    The lawyers said they didn't do enough to keep the guest safe and he pointed out the fact they had lawn chairs by the beaches as if to say it was safe to chill there.

  • Meme

    God forgive me if I'm wrong!

  • Da Puppet Mistress
  • MissHarlem

    I'm over this wade in the water at 9 at night story. RIP baby.

  • KB

    Happy Birthday Tupac Amaru Shakur, would have turned 45 today. RIP

  • Mystery User

    Ain't nothing in it but an ink pen, scratch pad, a coupon for a dollar off a big mac and a 1G jump drive.

  • Paige

    You never know. Nothing wrong with asking questions. I'm sure the police are asking the same thing.

  • Full Monty

    Wow really! Time sure does fly!

  • She_ShowOut

    Love this comment...and it makes a lot of sense.

  • SpillyNillie

    If folks have an image of a baby being eating by a gator at "Disney" you think they gon come the fck back?
    _______________________________________________
    Probably would...they'd just avoid the "beaches"

  • PettyEyezPrime

    That last month is the hardest. Have you tried to move her along? Walking? Boo sexy time loving? Are you dilated? She's coming, you know these kids like doing things on their time.

  • LibraGirlonly

    Only time will tell.

  • BKLYNS MAMA

    Nope...because they already putting a spin on it...oh, the baby simply drowned which looks more like the parents are at fault since, the No Swimming sign were posted . Fck that it was Gators not 1 put several in the damn lake...

  • Da Puppet Mistress

    "Whether on the beach, poolside or surrounded by Floridian woodlands,
    enjoy relaxing evening entertainment that’s fun for the whole family"

  • Mystery User

    You know our people used to wade in the water to get away... how many of us got ate by gators?
    Maybe white baby meat is just sweeter - or the gators were >there< with us #powertothepeople

  • Just Keya

    For anyone who never got a welcome packet or currently needs to update the one they had:
    1) Have you ever had Pank Eye?
    2) Do you eat the booty like groceries?
    3) When you wash do you clean the inside of your booty hole or just the outside?
    4) Straight, Gay, or Bi?
    5) Kids or naw?
    6) Single or naw?
    7) Occupation?
    8) Can you cook or is your food dry as hell?

    Please note that other Roses will add questions as they see fit. Welcome and Enjoy.

  • LibraGirlonly

    What do you want me to see?

  • MsSincerity

    Thank You for shouting out my hubby.........he appreciates you. :-)

  • Da Puppet Mistress

    This is FROM the resort website

    https://disneyworld.disney.go.com/recreation/motorized-boats/

    Choices include:

    Canoes

    Motorized Boats

  • Jahnée Gill Mr.Eddie Murphy

    Lawd! My grandmother's house had lizards and flying roaches. I'd walk into her living room and see lizards on the walls. A flying roach chased me and my cousin out of the house. We were terrified. I told him to man up and kill it he gave me the "nigga please" look. We slept on the porch that night with our sleeping bags zipped all way except for a little hole for air. We decided the flying roaches and lizards can have the house we'll sleep outside .

  • Da Puppet Mistress

    Movie night. Hence the chairs. They have an event out there.

  • SunRiseBlossom

    Welcome to the best blog site this side of an URL!!! Do come and opinionate with us again!!! :)

  • SpillyNillie

    Basically...

    But write with your feet...loved it!

  • MotherOfDragons, GetOffMyENuts

    I do too! We are thinking about doing a Disney Cruise combined with a couple of days at Disney for Christmas next year. Halloween Horror Nights at Universal is going to be amazeballs though, we've been wanting to do this for a minute.

  • MissHarlem

    I was going to bring up this same analogy. Everytime I ride a roller coaster I secretly hope someone gets their arm bruised up. No one listens.

  • Just Keya

    See no. The baby had puncture wounds as well so that gator had him. Just did not eat him. Either way the gator was involved so Disney will pay.

  • nucynu25

    The parents shouldn't hve let him in that water. Like I said yesterday, they were not directly by this little angel so once the gator got him it was too late. I will not drag them bc no one should hve to bury their child. Its not natural & as a mom I know I have made many mistakes. Thanks to God my son has not suffered bc of my actions. We are human. The media has treated this accident better than the situation with the gorilla. At the end of the day .. a child is gone...Who gives a fuk abt the color , a baby is gone. The media had no business dragging the blk parents through the mud for a mistake but this is America . Am gone , am mf tired of this.

  • LibraGirlonly

    I don't think that will work this time. People are staring to get smart about the games they play. I hope

  • Just Keya

    And eye drops for Pank eye

  • PettyEyezPrime

    I was jamming this morning

  • Da Puppet Mistress

    Why avoid the beaches? If they are advertising them as a perk. Go rent you a canoe. Its a perk of the resort.

  • BKLYNS MAMA

    ok, yeah...but, the "Beach Resort area"...which is geared for families....its still money being lost

  • LibraGirlonly

    Let me look

  • Lena Justin

    So the signs need to be specific? No swimming- alligators, bacteria, no life guard, etc. People are stupid.

  • yoni

    Maybe white baby meat is just sweeter
    __________________
    Not if they saying his body was still intact.......and none of the other Gators that had been put down had even sniffed the "meat". As no contents were in their stomach's.

  • JennyFrmDaBlck

    I just changed I was scrolling before i joined and I picked the first name that came to my mind and then I realized why it came to my mind so easily it was someone else lol talk about embarrassing!

  • Mystery User

    1) Have you ever had Pank Eye?
    Got it right now - whats up?
    2) Do you eat the booty like groceries?
    what have you heard?
    3) When you wash do you clean the inside of your booty hole or just the outside?
    As much as I can as long as I can and I wipe from front to back.
    4) Straight, Gay, or Bi?
    What have you heard?
    5) Kids or naw?
    That I claim or all together?
    6) Single or naw?
    Who's asking cause maybe...
    7) Occupation?
    Pimpin'
    8) Can you cook or is your food dry as hell?
    Depends on my attitude

  • L.T.L. Since 2007

    I ashamed because I do too. When I ride, all my shit is tucked in nice and tight. And depending on the ride, I might not even take a breath til that bytch stop.

  • Phillybruh

    There is a reasonable expectation of safety at a place like this. The reason there were no signs up about crocs in the water is because it would cause people to not stay at that resort. No swimming, problem is they were not swimming, they were walking along the water. Patrons have a reasonable expectation of safety if there are crocs in the water their should be a sign saying that.

  • LibraGirlonly

    Damn that's really true smh.

  • yoni

    Yes they do need to be specific. Some folks don't listen......or read well.

  • Just Keya

    In the order they were asked:
    Yes!
    Yes! Cleaning, moving stuff, everything.
    No. I'm feeling uncomfortable and too big. So that makes me feel....a little unsexy.
    Yes!!

  • MsSincerity

    Alligators or no alligators, why in the hell is there a loose toddler in the water AT NIGHT (even in the day time).....not to mention that the water is dirty.*eyeroll* #beigepeople

  • Da Puppet Mistress

    THE FACT that they STILL aint REMOVED that fukk shyt

  • PettyEyezPrime

    And if you stand up and happen to fall 50 ft and die that's your fault.
    *******
    ?Why did this make me holler? Then in my mind said, but did you die?

  • Just Keya

    Really? It's been years upon years so Fast Pass is new to me. Maybe I'll try it. Thanks

  • SpillyNillie

    9) Do you like white meat or dark meat?

  • Dee

    ....AND at 9:00 at night when little Lane should have been asleep. Parents are at fault here!!! Just like Becky dropping her kid at the zoo in Pittsburgh, the dogs killed and ate her son and she sued the zoo.

  • yoni

    3) When you wash do you clean the inside of your booty hole or just the outside?
    _______________
    Don't clean ya asshole. Clean ya WHOLE ass. :rofl:

  • Mystery User

    ?? Ain't nuun but a Gangsta Party??
    Awww sh*t

  • PettyEyezPrime

    If you hang your arms out, they get chopped off and now you have to write with your feet, that too, is your fault.
    ****
    I'm saying extra prayers tonight??

  • http://Copblock.org aDingoDrankMyBabies

    Oh how I love #2???????? Only Dubb answered truthfully? Not much of a looker, but going Ms Pac Man on the anus definitely bumps her up to dime piece status??

  • Just Keya

    Lmao.

  • LibraGirlonly

    Wow I bet if they had told the guest that there were gators on the property it would be less people visiting on their property. I stay at hotels close by because it's way cheaper.

  • Liz

    I mean realistically this was a freak accident. Check out the CNN article you are more likely to get killed by a cow. http://www.cnn.com/2016/06/15/health/disney-alligator-attack-may-have-been-the-perfect-storm-trnd/index.html

  • Dee

    And OWN a part of Disney!

  • MissHarlem

    Same here fck that. I listen to anything that I have no control over. Sea, air animals etc. Not my habitat so wtf do I think I can do whatever I want. I ain't ashamed because my ass is in tact when I get off and hopefully some comedy about who's arm got clipped ?

  • yoni

    So you ain't the real Jenie????

  • mzbestseller

    I said this yesterday and God knows I didn't want to mention the skin color but it is so obvious. People react to situations like this based off of that one thing which is sad. Will anyone dig up backgrounds on the parents like they did the other ones? Will this mother be labeled unfit like the other. Clearly this was negligence on these parents part. They knew better than to have lil Lane in that water. Isiah's mom got distracted for a split second and became the poster child for DFACS but I bet Lane's parents were taking pictures while he swam in that nasty water thinking it was cute. Yes one family in able to still hold their baby while the other isn't but people need to be fair. My heart still goes out to them even if I think this could have been prevented.

  • SunRiseBlossom
  • Just Keya

    People are stupid. But to cover your own ass, throw the signs up.

  • MotherOfDragons, GetOffMyENuts

    They probably will of their own volition. No lawsuit. I'm sure they've already offered a financial settlement to the family to avoid the hassle. I don't see the stock dropping or their revenue being affected by this. The Disney conglomerate is a powerful multinational presence. They have their hands in damn near everything. They're not worried about this.

  • L.T.L. Since 2007

    I get that, but that same rationale should be applied to the patrons as well. People should practice some common sense. I don't go to Benihana and lay my hands on the grill and they don't even have a sign telling me not to. So I'm damn sure not going to do the exact opposite of what a warning tells me not to.

  • Dee

    You can only eat the tail. The other 390 pounds is wasted.

  • Mystery User

    Why is the classic answer to occupation always a pimp? Why not ho-in'? LOL.

  • Meme

    Haha it was my mum that said that too... She watches those programmes too "in suspicious circumstances " !!! X

  • Mystery User

    you say loos toddler like its more dangerous than the 'gator!
    LOL

  • http://Copblock.org aDingoDrankMyBabies

    I remember being told Black babies were what Crackaz called gator bait?

  • Da Puppet Mistress

    You make me sick

  • Just Keya

    The money Disney about to give them will be chump change for them and people will still go to Disney so really it's no sweat for them. But a payment will be made

  • mzbestseller

    All I want is the coupon???

  • ShWa

    Happy Birthday Mr. Shakur!

  • http://Copblock.org aDingoDrankMyBabies

    hi?

  • Phillybruh

    They were doing what they were allowed to do walk along the water, the mother had the childs hand.

  • MissHarlem

    I just hollered ???real tears. Reminds me of fire Marshall bill

  • Just Keya

    No one wants to admit they are on the stroll. Quite as its kept, they are ho-in' but don't know it.

  • Da Puppet Mistress

    It would be less folks in that damn lake in a canoe. thats for sure

  • Mystery User

    OMG I was just thinking that I hope God knows my heart! I play too much sometimes! ??

  • Da Puppet Mistress

    This story was good as heck. Thanks!!!

  • BKLYNS MAMA

    Shyt I do....While hiking I seen I sign posted about Snakes and other reptiles maybe seen, especially during Hot days...I haven't taken my blk tail that way EVER again. I don't underestimate shyt...signs are POSTED for a reason....#IJS

  • MotherOfDragons, GetOffMyENuts

    ...and there we have it.

  • LibraGirlonly

    They are about to get some bad press well maybe not since they are a part of people who really run the world. It will be interesting to see.

  • ReadingUfromTX

    IMO Disney has a strong case. We already know that:

    1) The child was away from the parents for at least 10 feet
    2) No swimming signs were posted. ignorance of the law is usually no excuse in a court of law.
    3) The family was swimming after dark which contributed to visibility issues.
    4) The water debts were too high for a child his age. So even if swimming were permitted, Disney could argue that it was the parents negligence to allow someone that small in 6 ft water. Also was the child wearing any swimming aids?
    5). We dont know what all of the witnesses reported to the police. Usually the real truth is in those statements. Such as were the parents being attentive or were they snap chatting?

    Having said all that, Disney will settle to make it go away if the parents backgrounds are squeaky clean. If there are any CPS cases, etc.. they may challenge them.

  • Just Keya

    Why my ass start humming it. I need something to do. Smh

  • L.T.L. Since 2007

    Now, if they were just walking, and not in the water, that's a different story. There are quite a few conflicting reports on how it initially started.

  • SpillyNillie

    Canoe? Perk? Shiiiiiid...me and mine gone be perched somewhere on some asphalt. When I think of Disney I don't think of beaches no way!

  • Phillybruh

    Its been the same report, they were walking in an inch of water on movie night at the resort( something they surely wouldn't be able to do if people knew Crocs were that close)

  • BKLYNS MAMA

    that was my point...Greedy fckin Disney/America..originally, the No swimming sign was posted ....because the water had bacteria in it....they ish should have been CLOSED to all guest...

  • Unita Lucinda “Lucy” Freebush

    Bwah HA!

    STOOPID

  • http://sandrarose.com SandraRose

    Correction: the child was found in 6-feet of water, where the alligator left him. He wasn't swimming in 6-feet of water. He was wading in 12 inches of water, 10 feet away from the shore.

  • Mystery User

    new post - snapchat video from club...

  • colejk

    Totally agree. The family shouldn't have been in the water, especially at night, & Disney should've posted signs about the wildlife threat. A no swimming/steep drop off sign is VERY different from a beware of gators sign. One threat sounds like it can be managed. The other is out of your hands as a parent. Beyond white privilege, I do think people are giving the family a pass because the child died in this case. My first thought was of my 2 yr old & how a parent would never recover from something like that. Unfortunately, that family already paid the ultimate price for their mistake.

  • MotherOfDragons, GetOffMyENuts

    Don't do it unless you are really ready. I believe wholeheartedly that DF is to blame for me dilating.

  • LibraGirlonly

    I'm hearing something totally differently than what you said. They may settle out of court but it will be in their best interest to do so cause the bad press will hurt the brand.

  • MissHarlem

    My ambitionz az a ridah ??

  • Just Keya

    As long as she don't have to stay at the hospital when it's time to go, them I'm ready. But I can't get in the mood to actually do it.

  • ReadingUfromTX

    Hi Sandra! Thanks for the correction.

  • http://sandrarose.com SandraRose

    The lifeguard said he was 10 feet out in 12 inches of water. She was not holding his hand.

  • Da Puppet Mistress

    I need a n-i-g-g-a (sings the rest in my head)

  • L.T.L. Since 2007

    This is what I keep seeing. But I guess my glaucoma acting up and I'm missing something.

  • Paige

    #3. People actually clean the inside of there butt holes? I guess....?

  • Unita Lucinda “Lucy” Freebush

    You see it all the time with children shooting themselves or others. Sometimes the prosecutor will file, sometimes they won't. You may hear the parents suffered enough and then you have those who say the parents need to be held accountable for negligence.

    This blog is example of that.

  • PettyEyezPrime

    I may have to look this up.

  • ReadingUfromTX

    Yes thats what I believe will ultimately happen, that they will settle to make it disappear. I was just saying if they wanted to fight it,I feel they have a strong case.

  • Phillybruh

    The interview I saw today said differently. Disney officials and a family rep.

  • PettyEyezPrime

    Aww she's coming, when she's goodT and ready ?.

  • Liz

    You are very welcome love.

  • She_ShowOut

    **UPDATE**
    1. Got pank eye when I was lil kid...but now I'm a super clean freak about my body, eyes, ears, nose, throat and errrwhere else on my body which leads to the next 2 questions.
    2. Hell naw, but isle 9 is clean, stocked and stacked for groceries.
    3. Inside and out..it's essential. I might even invest in a bidet.
    4. Some girls tell me I seem curious..but if Bey wanted me, I would be whatever she needed me to be.
    5. No kids of my own...raised a few though..they turned out well.
    6. Not single
    7. Underpaid, underestimated and underrated employment at the moment..due to my snobbish outlook on work.
    8. Hate cooking...raised snobbish. My focus is dressing nice, having fun and doing whatever the F I want to do, when I want to do it!

  • ramosyo

    His death was tragic, but ultimately why was he out so far being so small? Why weren't they in the water with him?!!

  • MsSincerity

    We can say "why are they not dragging his parents through the mud like that back mother" (which I agree with), but when you really think about it, she is being drug in a different way......her son is gone and I guess that is "her drag) so it really doesn't matter what her beige counterparts say or not say. Just like when we complain about the "national media" ONLY showcasing beige women or beige children when they go missing, but not the black ones. When you think about that, none of them are ever found alive so.......

  • Jahnée Gill Mr.Eddie Murphy

    They were smh.

  • Unita Lucinda “Lucy” Freebush

    Yes! How much does he owe on his taxes? Did he even file? Where is the background check? Why hasn't the kids, granny and babysitter's mugshots been posted? I know those kids have something in their permanent school record for misbehaving in kindergarten.

  • Renee26

    The parents...then too how they miss him in the initial search when he was found 17 yards away from the intial incident?? All those poor gators were killed looking for remains and his whole body was right there in plain sight (sarcasm)

  • Unita Lucinda “Lucy” Freebush

    Tables need to be shook.

  • She_ShowOut

    Tried a bidet before...feels awesome!

  • puppylove

    Good morning roses.

    I am not going to the new post. Too sad.

  • yoni

    Well we also have a Jeanie from the block on here as well. She's a regular too.

  • puppylove

    It was dark. Reduced visibility. And the water is very murky.

  • PettyEyezPrime

    I'm still planning my Disney trip so...

  • Phillybruh

    The gator took him under and kept him under.

  • Unita Lucinda “Lucy” Freebush

    I swear I was going to post this and lo, and behold, there were 3 callers ahead of Jimmianna. ?

  • Sucker Free

    The goal of criminal law is to punish the offender and deter from repeating the crime

    these parents paid the ultimate price and have been deterred...just my 2 cents

  • Rayscoty

    I'm sorry. This was hilarious

  • Unita Lucinda “Lucy” Freebush

    ? I refuse.

  • OvertheMississippi

    We went for Christmas. It is beautiful, but everyone and their granny is there during Christmas time. Everyone thinks that no one else would want to go for the holiday, so everyone ends up there at the same time. Only good thing, the sun doesn't bake you to death.

  • Truth

    Shut Disney down there is no amount of money to replace that baby !

  • Unita Lucinda “Lucy” Freebush

    Basically, it does. You can't step foot down there without seeing...gator teeth, gator, boots, gator coat, gator soup, cajun gator, gator tours, gator pictures...hayle, the dayum mascot is, you guessed it, a gator. I feel like Bubba. We got gator shrimp, gator teeth, gator gator...

  • Saphistication

    I blame the parents...I wonder if he had a disability or issue and they were looking for a big payday...can't see a parent allowing a baby to be that far out alone.

  • Crazy tee

    They said the water came up to his ankle which I don't consider to be swimming....the point is an alligator sign should have been put up and they probably would not have been near the water....alligators go on land too so why would they have fireworks in an area that has alligators ....

  • Renee26

    Ok...I was seriously like how sway??

  • Saphistication

    Exactly... This pisses me off... Euthanized when there were no swimming signs...there's a race war going on in America and it's disgusting.

  • http://Copblock.org aDingoDrankMyBabies

    ??? yea...This great Country of ours...

  • Saphistication

    The father a hero for fighting the alligator...he should've gave his life to save his child's.

  • Unita Lucinda “Lucy” Freebush

    Unsexy?! Shoot.

    Move her along? Get those nips stimulated...somehow. ? Have an O for the helluvit. Preggo secks is the best secks. She'll show up.

  • Crazy tee

    They said the water went to his ankle...alligators roam on water and land...the people on the sand were at risk....they should have put a sign up but it's all about the money

  • Unita Lucinda “Lucy” Freebush

    This! ? Yep!

  • Saphistication

    I don't see why they had to give an alligator disclaimer when the sign prohibited people of from going in the water. Alligators move pretty slow on land, you would have to be knocked out or dead get attacked by on land. Either way it's sad case for the little guy.

  • _perfectly__incomplete__

    That's how I see I aswell

  • _perfectly__incomplete__

    Cause alligators aren't endangered

  • Unita Lucinda “Lucy” Freebush

    OMG. How embarrasing. ?

  • Torae

    Did the zoo have a sign up warning a child might fall in? White folks want to stand up for the parents that PURPOSELY took their eyes off their two year old and let him go in WATER by himself unattended...which is dangerous without a alligator involved. But want to demand the black mother to be arrested, kids taken away, call her every name in the book, pull up the fathers past because she turned around one minute and her son wandered off the next minute. White people hypocrites.

  • Nita

    The same ridicule should be directed at these parents the same as the other parents. Obviously they weren't watching or close to their child when the incident happened.

  • stanhope

    Really? That misses the point entirely. Had Disney reacted appropriately to the alligator pics from the week before, this in all likelihood would not have happened.

  • _perfectly__incomplete__

    Yes especially when lots of tourists go there that probably won't know about all the alligators

  • Low E. TUH!

    I'M STARTING TO SEE THIS AS A BLATANT AND IN-YOUR-FACE RESPONSE TO THE HARAMBE SITUATION...BLACK CHILD VS WHITE CHILD. SMDH

  • StoneColdLady

    Let me preface this by saying I am sprry this child has lost his life; I'm however I am confused by certain aspects of the account.
    1. How does a 2 year old wade in 10 feet of water?
    2. How does a 7-8 foot alligator not sever whichever body part it locked it's jaws on? Again this is a toddler

  • Unita Lucinda “Lucy” Freebush

    Whoever "the lawyers" are, there are 10 more who will say the complete opposite and will argue the same reasons that have been brought up on this board. THAT'S a lawyer's job to argue. Right or wrong, neither side would want to drag it along. Pay, no admission of guilt, and move along.

  • LeeBee

    They white so it OK to ignore rules ?...NEXT

  • Unita Lucinda “Lucy” Freebush

    People die at Disney. Folks get on rides and die. Folks get off rides and die. Some have medical conditions, some don't. Some do stupid or questionable things and die. Hayle, I remember Goofy got ran over by one of the princesses and her float. You hear rumors about the kids and the shows. Disney is still here.

  • ZRoJoTheLezBeyond

    1 - no
    2 - yes
    3 - mainly just the hole but when I know I'm bout to have my salad tossed, I will clean inside as well
    4 - lezbun
    5 - Two boys
    6 - naw
    7 - data analyst
    8 - yes I can

  • ZRoJoTheLezBeyond

    9 - Neither, I'm pescatarian

  • Crazy tee

    Moving slow for an adult maybe but a curious two year old that is not aware of how dangerous an alligator is can lead to tragedy....

  • imright

    the first write up on this sight that i completely agree with! ??????

  • ZRoJoTheLezBeyond

    Wtf?!?

  • stanhope

    SPEAK!

  • stanhope

    The sign said not to swim in the water nothing about wading. Who would expect an alligator threat at family oriented micky mouse's Disney?

  • scentsychick30

    Smh it's the parents but folks act like this is new in Ammerikka if she black attack her,but everyone has sympathy for this family who was negligent. All the pics I have seen said no swimming.

  • stanhope

    That gator mauled that kid..that you can believe and probably ate some of it. That is what disney doesnt want you to know.

  • ZRoJoTheLezBeyond

    I'm too damn through.

  • misse

    As unfortunate as this was...these parents were simply irresponsible. Why would you allow a toddler to be in a body of water...after dark...feet away from you...in Florida, there's no need for signs. This state is known for it's gators. It's common knowledge that there's a potential for a gator attack in EVERY body of water...smh

  • Just Keya

    I might have to suck it up *giggles* and try it tonight.

  • QueenyBean

    1. naw
    2. I have
    3. both (I am afraid of the unknowns)
    4. Bye
    5. Nope
    6. I's sangle
    7. I thought you couldn't have one to be here?
    8. I gets my mens to cook.

  • Low E. TUH!

    1) Have you ever had Pank Eye? AS A BABE IN SWADDLING CLOTH(E)S...WELL SMALL CHILD ANYWAY
    2) Do you eat the booty like groceries? MEH.
    3) When you wash do you clean the inside of your booty hole or just the outside? IS THIS A RHETORICAL QUESTION?
    4) Straight, Gay, or Bi? FLATLINED
    5) Kids or naw? 3 LOWS
    6) Single or naw? IT'S COMPLICATED
    7) Occupation? JUST STEPPED OUT ON FAITH
    8) Can you cook or is your food dry as hell? DEPENDS ON MY MOOD...

  • ZRoJoTheLezBeyond

    One of my FAV characters on ILC!

  • Unita Lucinda “Lucy” Freebush

    And it is...it's surrounded by woodlands and water. It's a beautiful place, and yes, it is grand. We frequent Florida (have fam and time share there), Disney (have fam there, too), the resorts and grounds a lot. I just personally never have had a desire to get in any body of water (outside of a pool, the ocean and gulf) in Florida...they have gators.

  • Readytochokemothernatureonout

    Poor Lane :(

  • Unita Lucinda “Lucy” Freebush

    I don't know. It's Florida. I expect to see a gator at Wal-Mart. ?

  • Unita Lucinda “Lucy” Freebush

    Well ?...?

  • ZRoJoTheLezBeyond

    Same thing my friend and I were discussing earlier here at work. I would like to think people travelling to FL know it's the gator state, amongst the other animals/reptiles you mentioned above. And if they didn't know, then I would like to think most travelers would know to do their research prior to travelling to a state/country they are not familiar with. Not only familiarize yourself with the types of creatures in said state, but laws since they are different everywhere you go. Common sense doesn't seem to be so common anymore.

  • SpideySense

    Story time:

    A child and his mom go to the zoo. The child says he wants to play with a gorilla but the mom forbids it. Headstrong child climbs into gorilla enclosure and survives. Country wants to prosecute the mother and delve into the father's criminal history even though he wasn't present at the time of the incident.

    Then a child and his family go to a resort. The child's parents place the child in a body of water that has a prominently displayed "no swimming sign". Child gets mauled by a gator. The country mourns with the family and wants to prosecute the resort. At no time does anyone investigate whether the father has a criminal history despite the father being present during the incident.

    How Sway? If the past mattered in the gorilla case then it should matter in this one too.

    I can't with these people. The more blatant the unfairness is the angrier they become when you point it out.

  • Unita Lucinda “Lucy” Freebush

    I did not follow the rules. Had my hands up. I was in Kemah and got my sh!t shook so bad on that tiny wooden coaster...

    Paramount Theme park...hands inside the coaster.

    Follow directions. ?

  • Unita Lucinda “Lucy” Freebush

    I hate you for this visual. ?

  • Disiny2003

    They are "threatened" though. A step above endangered.

  • HIS4EVA

    were they smoking crack in the bathroom?

  • QueenyBean

    LOVES the dark meat.LOVES the dark meat.

  • SpideySense

    I am not insensitive to this family's plight and what happened to their son. It is a tragedy all the way around. But I have the same questions and concerns that you do. I was so confused that the child was found intact but had been mauled by a gator. Just recently there was an item in the news mentioning that a human arm or leg had been found inside of a gator in Florida. Its confusing to me that a grown man's arm could be yanked off but a toddler would be found intact.

  • Unita Lucinda “Lucy” Freebush

    Should all animals be listed? Should the state make all outdoor activities to list the dangers of what could be in the air, on the land, and in the water. It's Florida. They have gators, snakes, lizards...and ROACHES! Those are NOT waterbugs ?

    I do understand your point of view.

  • Unita Lucinda “Lucy” Freebush

    12 inches of water. How tall is this 2yo?

  • SpideySense

    one could also argue that the zoo didn't have proper deterents from getting into their enclosures. I would think it should be terribly difficult for a 3-year old to climb into a gorilla pit. All things being equal, shouldn't people have been angrier at the zoo and their lack of proper enclosures more so than at the child's mother - the same way that people are mad at Disney for their lack of signs? Both the zoo and the resort are child friendly environments where parents expect a modicum of safety.

    I think we all feel badly for this family and what happened to their son but the way that it's being handled, even if the situations are somewhat different, is glaring and staggering to me.

  • Michelle Peele

    That's exactly what I keep saying. I'm not a Floridian but have lived down here for 4 years. Lived in Miami for 2 years. One of the first things I learned was about the free roaming reptiles in these parts. To me, it's worse in Central Florida than down in Miami. You are 100% correct. We are in their territory. When it comes to signs, hell, they would have to put one up everywhere; not just at Disney. The Welcome signs would have to read 'Welcome to Florida...Beware of the Gators' because they are literally everywhere. And the more they keep on with this construction and building retention ponds, more wildlife will surface and take up residence wherever it sees it. Sad but true...

  • Unita Lucinda “Lucy” Freebush

    I swear I just heard the Mahalia Jackson/Tony Toni Tone remix in my head.

  • Patrick Plus Ariene

    Wait, what does color have to do with this??? There was no reason in a zoo that the little boy should have been able to climb up there and fall into the gorilla's pit. As sympathetic as I am towards the family, the mother and father should have been watching him, especially after he said he was climbing in there! In this scenario, they were gathering around the lagoon for the resorts movie night events. They were off the shoreline when the alligator attacked, THEY WERE NOT SWIMMING IN THE WATER! While it is common knowledge there are gators in Florida IT IS NOT COMMON KNOWLEDGE THAT THEY LIVE IN THE THEME PARK TOURIST AREAS as well!! You can't even compare these two cases, and why would you even be heartless enough to do so??? Instead of bringing color into it, how about we just pray and thankful the other little boy wasn't killed by the gorilla. You have to be heartless to compare the skin color to care. We are all people, we are all the same.

  • MzFutureLCSW

    I was not there but I will say: BOTH.

  • Michelle Peele

    You said that right...upscale homes. But where the other 99% live, you are subject to look out in the front or backyard and see a gator or anything else roaming around.

  • SpideySense

    Them being white does make a difference in how the family is being treated after the incident. I agree that both families were at fault as far as negligence is concerned though. No one is digging into the white family's irrelevant criminal history. It's different whether we choose to acknowledge it or not.

  • Patrick Plus Ariene

    No Swimming does NOT replace a warning sign for gators OR a warning sign not to get near the water! The parents are not at fault for this, Disney's negligence is at a tourist attraction. It may be obvious to some people, but for other tourists who come world-wide to visit, it isn't.

  • LordeAmbler

    Disney is at fault. Sorry. You are a billion dollar theme park. All waters need to be checked for gators. And then they pulled out 6 gators so you not monitoring this man made lagoon the gators are swimming In. You can avoid a baby falling over into a damn gorilla cage. But a child waddling in water. Very innocent b

  • Unita Lucinda “Lucy” Freebush

    One should be the best at whatever they do...I think. There could be stipulations...?

  • AnonymousRose

    WE are not all the Same.............NOT,... foolishness

  • SpideySense

    I was afraid to even voice that thought out loud, but it has certainly occurred to me.

  • MzFutureLCSW

    Sandra IS BEING FAR from heartless.
    It is a very good question because Disney DID HAVE UP SIGNS STATING, "STAY OUT OF THE WATER."
    So, Disney HAD to specifically state because of alligators, when Disney HAS clear signs saying "STAY OUT."
    And the 2 year old had gone 10 feet INTO the water.
    Let us not have a double standard.

  • Patrick Plus Ariene

    I agree! They should have had signs for either gators or warning signs not to get near the water!!

  • MzFutureLCSW

    Just wrote something to this effect.
    People love to put on rose colored glasses for everyone but Blacks.

  • Unita Lucinda “Lucy” Freebush

    I'm done.

  • LordeAmbler

    It was man made so no one expected a gator to be in anything man made.

  • LordeAmbler

    Come on you really not sitting hear saying that Kesha that let her child fall over into a gorilla cage is not negligent. A gorilla cage. Really. Alligators in a man made lagoon is not the fathers or parents fault. It's man made.

  • Unita Lucinda “Lucy” Freebush

    Uh...? This is rare, but, no but, oddly, I am at a loss for words.

  • Patrick Plus Ariene

    He was NOT swimming in the water, He was FOUND 6 ft in the water!

    http://www.cnn.com/2016/06/15/us/alligator-attacks-child-disney-florida/

  • SpideySense

    Prices will probably drop due to bad publicity. Might be the best time to buy that vacation

  • Shannon9898

    The body was not found floating in plain sight... it was found underwater by a dive team

  • Patrick Plus Ariene

    Last time I checked, we were all humans. Forgive me I didn't realize I was mistaken.

  • AnonymousRose

    you sure white people are 100% human like Black folks....

  • SpideySense

    They shouldn't be charged. I don't think anyone wants to drag this family through the.mud after all they have gone through. We just want the same courtesy when the tragedy happens to us.

  • Unita Lucinda “Lucy” Freebush

    EVERY home should have one. Just let the dogs and kids know it is NOT a mini drinking fountain, and let your significant, yet, foolish other know it is not a foot wash basin either. ?

    Don't ask. I have a story for that, too.

  • Patrick Plus Ariene

    And a "no swimming" sign does not qualify for a "Do not go near the water" or a warning sign for gators.

  • MzFutureLCSW

    Read all the articles again.

  • AnonymousRose

    why waste time...lol

  • SpideySense

    Not true. Any body of water in florida is liable to have something trying to live in it. Septic tanks and swimming pools are.man made and they find gators in them every year.

  • Patrick Plus Ariene

    I have read them repeatedly. This is a quote from the article

    'The boy was standing at the edge of the lake with his feet in the water when the alligator grabbed him, Orange County Sheriff's Office spokeswoman Rose Silva said Wednesday.'

  • SpideySense

    She's right, you're right, and the whole situation is so tragically wrong.

  • MzFutureLCSW

    "A lifeguard said the boy waded 10 feet out into the murky lagoon water."
    Reading what IS written and what you want it to say are two different things.
    Deal with it!

  • Shannon9898

    Maybe it's because the father in this case has no criminal past? A simple google search and you can find out every detail of these parents lives because this happened... this took me 5 seconds to find out...

    Matt Graves is the chief data officer for Infogroup, a business data and marketing company, according to his Linkedin profile. He has worked for the company since 2008

    According to the company’s website, “Infogroup is the leading provider of innovative business data, and marketing solutions that are proven to increase customer acquisition and retention.”

    He is also a board member for the Greater Omaha Chamber of Commerce.

    The parents criminal history is irrelevant in both cases.... but what did you want the media to do in this case? make a criminal history up ?

  • https://twitter.com/Chicagowise Chicagowise

    Alligators are all over Florida. That lagoon is connected to lake. There is no way for Disney to know if and when an alligator will enter those waters. Parents are supposed to be smarter than their children.

  • Jusstlookn

    Yeah I agree 70 percent. The other family were being told they were going to be killed.

    Life isnt fair, but I already know this.

  • SpideySense

    No, that's not what I am saying at all. My point is that neither family's criminal history was relevant to their case and therefore should never have been made into a news story or major issue. My other point is that we as a society are quick to try to punish black people for things that white people would get an automatic pass for, in this case neglectful parenting. I don't dislike white people at all, I'm just very aware of how differently we are treated in this country and how comfortable most people are with the glaring distinctions.

  • Jusstlookn

    Agreed, my statement wasnt a judment, it was in respose how other family was treated.

  • Jusstlookn

    Your reponse seems to be more of she anchorned him over the fence. But whateves, I am sure the death threats the family rec'vd were fair.

  • Jusstlookn

    People are charged for less. A father that never takes the xhild to school, but on the hottest day forgets and childs dies, should he not be charged for neglect. Life is not always fair. Enjoy your day.

  • SameoleJ

    That would be like trying to keep wild geese out of a zoo....not gonna happen. Gators are all over Florida (like stated below). I grew up living down the street from Florida field in Gainesville, guess what......there were gators there. There is no controlling where they live, it would be a full time job with overtime included.

  • felicia

    @SpideySense you have spoken facts here, and I am in total agreement of you perspective!!!!!

  • Unita Lucinda “Lucy” Freebush

    Too soon. ?

  • SpideySense

    No, life isn't fair. I think that they have an argument as far as the inadequate signage goes so they won't (and in my opinion shouldn't) be charged. Accidents happen. I agree to an extent about the hot car scenario. The father who forgets his child in the hot car isn't necessarily a consistently bad parent, but in that case the child wouldn't die instantly and the dad, had he been paying attention, could have prevented the tragedy - or at least would have had time to go back and save the child. In that case it is purely the parent's fault, accident or not. In this case it's death by wild animal. No chance to save the child and not entirely the parent's fault. It's really just a sad situation all around.

    I hope your day goes well too. The weather is just right today.

  • Shannon9898

    Very well said. I agree

  • TheWildChild

    ?? So they found the kid's body still intact ? If this mystery gator dragged him in and didn't eat him, why? With no witnesses, I'm wondering if the father accidentally let the kid drown in the big drop near the "no swimming" sign and concocted this gator story ? they found a few gators but none large enough to drag a kid. Why were they swimming at 9:30pm .

  • Noirluv45

    The very fact that they sought out the Black father's criminal history is what's problematic. The Black father, from what I heard, wasn't even at the zoo with his family. Checking the criminal history of either family wasn't necessary.

  • https://twitter.com/Chicagowise Chicagowise

    That was a nasty and unnecessary comment.

  • SpideySense

    I'm sad to say that my mind went here as well. I hope that is not the case. I also don't know much about gator hunting habits so I can't speculate too much about that. Something just doesn't mesh for me quite yet. Need more information.

  • Noirluv45

    Yep. It's called White supremacy, MzFuture. Black are NEVER given the benefit of a doubt.

  • Unita Lucinda “Lucy” Freebush

    Awww sookie. I swear my O's were more explosive (x10) when I was pregnant.

    Yaaaaaas!

    ~sighs like Loretta Divine when she saw Gregory Hines in 'Waiting to Exhale'~

  • Yardgirl

    I questioned this story from day one!! Now to hear they found the body intact? Things that make you go "hmmmmm" RIP to the innocent baby boy.

  • BlueCandy

    EXACTLY, people are so shallow and simple.

  • Noirluv45

    Some people believe this story is a false flag. I don't know if you know what that means, but it's very interesting. My sister couldn't figure out for the life of her why anyone would be in the water at 9:30 p.m.

  • Ren

    Completely ironic how our babies were used for "alligator bait". I am in no way insensitive, but no swimming means just that. You would not have to give me an explanation why. At first they said a foot of water,now at his ankles...naw. At ankles you would have seen the gator. A foot of water would incriminate the parents. Ankle depth for a 2 year old ,they want you to imagine an innocent ,bonding family moment. Articles and reports are written to cause psychological response to certain words and word play.

  • Araminta Glissade Chaines

    Sandra I have never agreed with you more

  • Araminta Glissade Chaines

    Dark, murky water too and the baby was in water at 10 ft depth. None of this is hitting my ears right. None of it.

  • Araminta Glissade Chaines

    "The more blatant the unfairness is the angrier they become when you point it out." Preach

  • Araminta Glissade Chaines

    You found info that was offered up by linkedin and the dad's employer. All subjective. Look where he/they don't want you to. But that would be heartless - kind of like pulling up the ancient criminal history of a man whose baby was in a very dangerous situation for just under 20 minutes. But maybe you're right it's no to be compared.

  • Araminta Glissade Chaines

    You found info that was offered up by linkedin and the dad's employer. All subjective. Look where he/they don't want you to. But that would be heartless - kind of like pulling up the ancient criminal history of a man whose baby was in a very dangerous situation for just under 20 minutes. But maybe you're right it's no to be compared.

  • Araminta Glissade Chaines

    It goes against natural parental instinct.

  • Araminta Glissade Chaines

    It goes against natural parental instinct.

  • Boonella

    The gators go where they want....I don't think Disney can control that. It is Central Florida; there are gators everywhere. If you see a body of water you should assume a gator might be in the water. It's just the way it is down here.

  • Boonella

    The gators go where they want....I don't think Disney can control that. It is Central Florida; there are gators everywhere. If you see a body of water you should assume a gator might be in the water. It's just the way it is down here.

  • Noirluv45

    Me and you are >>>right here<<<

  • Guess Who

    I mentioned in another post that I feel some sort of way about this because of how the black family was treated. What? I'm supposed to be empathetic for a white child, have none for the black family but scorn and then cry over a gorilla? That's what whites think, lol.

  • Jusstlookn

    Well said Spidey. Calling for Torandos and Hail here...but it feels great outside. Perfect storm weather.

  • stanley

    It's always the parents fault.. White or Black.... People let their kids run wild. I was outside once, and a Mexican girl literally sat on top of my car when I was right there. And her father didn't even correct her. I gave that little girl the look of death lol.. Then she got her ass off my car.

    I dont know what it is with parenting these days.... Back in the 80s and 90s you use to get taught how to behave.

  • Crazy tee

    There not from down there....I have coyotes, rabbits, skunks, bobcats, raccoons, and every now and then a bear sighting but no alligator...people adapt to what they are use to....they knew there were aligators due to sighting by there employees and they failed to put up signs because they knew it would hurt the business bottom line....if you put up no swimming why not "alligator sighting".....because the tried to hide it.....

  • Nonya Bizness

    Uhhhh, Sorry, but I completely blame the parents in this kids death, and the parents were NOT in that water with that 2 year old. If they were, they wouldn't have had to RUN INTO the water to try and save him from the gator. This is the first time I've heard he was 10 feet away. I read their 4 yo was in a playpen, 20 yards from the water, which baffles me. I argued with my people about this yesterday. Of course they don't blame the parents. People even said"They're from Nebraska. How are they supposed to know there are gators in Florida?" Are you kidding me? Do people in Nebraska not know rain is wet either? I don't live in Alaska and I know there are Moose and Bears there. There is video of a gator in that water days before the incident and that man made lagoon opens up into a lake. Can you imagine how many people wouldn't go there if there were signs that said "Watch for gators"? Disney was dead wrong for building on that swamp and taking the gators homes to begin with.

  • Howard Alum ?

    Thank you ??? they can read. They purposely went in the water. Aligators are everywhere in FL. No one knows how long that gator was in the water, especially if it was 10 ft. Oh the joys of being a white family in Amerikkka. ?? SMH

  • Kbellaluvvs

    and her name was not Kesha....or maybe you was trying to be funny.

  • Nonya Bizness

    I think a lot of kids are raising themselves now days, and the ones that aren't are being raised by worthless trash. My next door neighbors kids come in my driveway, ride their bikes in it, the teenager the other morning stopped in my driveway and took clothes off that he had on over other clothes, and their mom had the audacity to come in my driveway one day and start sweeping the rock salt away! Her kids kept touching it. I went back out and put tons more down. When I was a kid, I would never play on someone else's property.

  • Shira Harding-James

    If the sign says no swimming, it means just that!! Why do you have to go the extra mile and put "gators lurking" for people to get the picture!!??

  • Crazy tee

    We have a hard enough time keeping up with the wild in our own yards but I pay thousands of dollars to be killed by a gator at a resort that was suppose to be safe for kids

  • Boonella

    If you are in outside your home state and you see a sign that says no swimming; they are basically telling you to stay out of the water. If you are coming to Florida you should expect any body of water to possibly have a gator. That's why they said No Swimming.

  • Crazy tee

    A gator sign goes a long way.....bottom line....My family members from out of town that visit me didn't know I had coyotes in my yard but once they were notified they took caution.....came into my home before it got too dark....if I didn't notify them how would they have known

  • Boonella

    It's Florida; that's your gator sign. You are in Florida. When you see the Welcome To Florida sign...right there you need to know there WILL be gators.

  • Nonya Bizness

    But it connects to an open body of water, and DW never put up any barriers blocking the lake from their man made lagoon.

  • Crazy tee

    Disney can't control there pet population and should have cautioned the visitors that pay thousands everyday....they got money hungry and will have to reap the consequences

  • che’lint

    No home training.

  • Boonella

    It's not Disney's "Pet Population" LOL. It's the gators in Florida. They are everywhere, so no Disney cannot control the gators. Which is why the sign was up that said no swimming. I am not sure why anyone would go into the water and it says no swimming. You should not be in the water bottom line. I don't know who will pay the consequences if any, but Disney cannot control the gators....

  • Nonya Bizness

    Man made doesn't matter. The parents are at fault all the way. No one will convince me dad was in that water with that boy. The boy didn't need to be in that water at 9:30 at night. He should have been asleep, and there are 635 pools they could have put their dusty feet in.

  • Crazy tee

    What part of gator sign don't you understand... The little boy was not swimming retard....you just sit back and watch how this family gets paid.....have a good one sweetie

  • Boonella

    See now the name calling is unnecessary...LOL What part of it's Florida don't you understand? We all know he wasn't swimming, but he wasn't supposed to be in the water period; idiot.

  • che’lint

    Do the parents have police records dating back when they were teenagers?? Have we seen them?

  • Crazy tee

    He didn't go in the water and drown....he drowned because an alligator took him under....now tell me is the no swimming sign, live alligators, or both would have been important....be honest

  • Boonella

    Again....if he had not been in the water; whether he was wading or walking this would not have happened. It's as simple as that. The no swimming sign in Central Florida should be enough...because....wait for it......there are gators all over!!!!!

  • Crazy tee

    They go on land too....

  • Boonella

    Yes but they are much more efficient in the water...that's why if you see a no swimming sign in Central Florida it's best to stay out of the water or go in at your own risk.......it's all about following the rules...

  • Nonya Bizness

    That's the story I keep reading, and it specifically says"Mom and dad ran into the water to try and save the boy. Dad tried to wrestle his son away from the gator and failed. He has some scratches." Why would you have a 4 year old in a play pen, and not the 2 year old? Those parent's weren't near that boy at all. I personally think they were watching the movie and not him. He should have been in the playpen with the 4 year old. Dad has "scratches"? SMH.

  • SmithyPooh

    Such a double standard. ?

  • Crazy tee

    Your resort is over populated with alligators and you didn't think that it was important to notify your guest....if it was a shark that's one thing but alligator do land and water....but you made sure you got paid....

  • Boonella

    Now the resort is over populated with gators? Where did you get that information? I live in Orlando and what you are saying is not true. LOL

  • Enoughsaid2020

    The parents are clearly at fault here, but we all know why there was no outcry, because the other parents were black. Just calling a spade a spade! SMH!

  • Crazy tee

    Because Florida is over populated with gators...and because gators do land and water....and now we know that some of Disneys resorts have gators....a little gator sign may have helped

  • Crazy tee

    They killed 5 and found 12 more lurking near resort....sounds like a problem to me...

  • Crazy tee

    Listen you can believe what you want but that lawsuit will speak volumes....I'm done with the conversation have a good one....

  • Boonella

    Yea it's a problem...it's not like they are located in Central Fl.....wait yes they are located in Central Florida....never mind.

  • Boonella

    I know I can believe what I want...I always do.

  • Realhiphopsearch

    Listen
    What if that situation never happened where the little black boy fell into the cage/ climbed into the cage but something else tragic happened?
    Someone snatched him God forbid?
    I would still be angry at the parent because parents are too loose with their children now a days
    Not as angry as people were to give the mom jail time but angry nonetheless

    Same thing in this situation with the little white boy
    As a parent I would not let my 2 year old dangle his feet out in a lake but like I said a gator snatched the child- child didnt fall in - which changes things up
    But it is wake up call to parents
    keep an eye on your children
    Hold your children hands when you are crossing the street with them
    And other things that parents do that tick me off

  • Realhiphopsearch

    No swimming

    Warning Gators!!

    Which one would make you not even go near the water?

  • Tequila Mockingbird

    The sign can say no swimming but didn't warn about gators in that area, gators are amphibians and that gator snatched him while he was standing next to the water...

  • SameoleJ

    I want to say IHATECHU, but this fast I am doing prohibits displays of anger, so I will say IDONTLUHYOU!!!

  • SameoleJ

    I am asking Jesus to not be simply a fence, but to just be a whole Moat and drawbridge around them!! CTHU

  • Tequila Mockingbird

    True, but even a sign that said POSSIBLE ALLIGATOR AREA is better than just thinking there aren't any...

  • Tequila Mockingbird

    He wasn't swimming tho, and bottom line this baby died. The last image these parents have of their son is seeing him in that gators mouth...

  • SameoleJ

    Not Crocs, Bruh, gators............And if you are visting Florida, I can tell you even if this sign did not list gators as a warning....there were about 50-11 other signs that did. DO NOT SWIM, should translate don't have your 2 year in here either, unless you are holding them.
    I am really amazed at all the folks who think you can prohibit a gator from entering a body of water, especially in Florida - HOME OF THE FLORIDA GATORS!!! Like seriously, that HOME OF THE FLORIDA GATORS don't tell you enough?! No, oh okay!! Gwan carry ya azz near da wah-TUH den!!

  • SameoleJ

    Let them go on down Florida with their misconception!! Best wishes!!

  • Tequila Mockingbird

    Gators are amphibians which means they venture onto land

  • SameoleJ

    Imma just leave this here......HOME OF THE FLORIDA GATORS!!!

    They named a fottball team after the thing......that was a clue!!

  • SameoleJ

    ...

  • SameoleJ

    And

  • SameoleJ

    And....

  • Tequila Mockingbird

    Uhhm, the little boy's life clearly was more valuable because they killed the gorilla. This has nothing to do with race. The boy fell into the gorilla enclosure because as witnesses said his mom was on her phone. This baby was snatched near the water which his parents saw and jumped in to try and save him. There were no signs warning about gators and we've all been to the zoo and know there are signs that say do not get too close to or hang on the ledge. Completely diff factors.

  • Tequila Mockingbird

    He wasn't swimming and gators venture onto land how would it have been diff if he was farther away from water and the gator came onto land and bit him or something?

  • Tequila Mockingbird

    The parents were watching him they saw him get snatched and they jumped in there after him

  • crystal weston

    I'm surprised they found the baby intact I just knew he would be in the belly of the gator. It's sad and a tragic but something is not right about this. When do aligators kill for sport. If he came out the water and took him than that little boy would have not been found.

  • eyeseeall

    I dont understand why adults need a sign in order to know better?
    Lets use some initiative and common sense here:
    1)It was late- probably too late to be around open water
    2)10 feet at night is extremely too far. I don't even let my six year old walk that far behind me during the day.
    3)Swimming or wading- CLOSE supervision is necessary
    4)Uhm he's 2.
    5)Maybe it's just me, but when I see a sign that say's no swimming, I don't get in the water at all, but that's just me.

    Still, I don't wish such a tragedy on any parent, regardless of their race so a part of me wishes this debate would end. It's hell on them already. Parents slip up and unfortunately it can have grave consequences. Half of the people judging them probably still leave their children in the car when they pump gas lol. Disney will still come out the pocket though. Regardless of who's fault it is.

  • Tequila Mockingbird

    And this baby died. The other mother got to take her son home.

  • Tequila Mockingbird

    But we've all been to the zoo and know there are signs that warn us about getting too close to the enclosures. However, the zoo wasn't prepared properly in the event that someone did fall in

  • Tequila Mockingbird

    Right, it only said no swimming and he wasn't. It didn't say you can't be close and put your feet in..

  • Tequila Mockingbird

    The parents did jump in and try to save him tho but the gator retreated underwater...

  • Willetta

    Disney is certainly at fault because they knew gators were lurking. Almost any native Floridian knows that any standing body of water is liable to contain a gator or 2. Any Floridian would also know that YOU DO NOT GET IN THE WATER AT NIGHT!! NO, NO, NO!! With that being said, those poor people were from Nebraska and should have been strenuously warned. All Disney had to do was rope off the lagoon and post large signs showing Alligator pictures.

  • melissaisasnob

    This is apples and oranges. One child was killed, the other was not. Big difference.

  • melissaisasnob

    Isn't it one of those things like sharks, when they taste human they reject it?

  • crystal weston

    I have no idea at sll. I wish someone would enlighten me.

  • AnonymousRose

    Go to the people that put out the Info that , said that our DNA and White DNA are not the same.....****shrugs****

  • sherri2016

    Where are the Protest where are the calls for the parents to lose their jobs where are the calls for background checks where are the CPS investigations this child lost his life along with a few alligators this family is only getting sympathy not getting judged for not paying attention to their 2 year old who should have been sleeping at that time anyway

  • Allihave2say

    I'm still in my feelings about it.

  • Allihave2say

    Seems everyone is missing 3 key words "completely intact body". A gator can swallow a toddler whole. The gator dragged the baby away but didn't eat it? The body is mangled or missing parts? What say you is the cause of death?

  • Rhyme and Reason

    I kinda thought about the other incident and how the parents were treated in comparison. Disney is definitely at fault for now having warning signs about alligators given they have been sighted most recently according to news reports. The signs should also state no wading, as well as no swimming because there is a difference! But, if the parents had been black, there wouldn't have been the same outrage, more people would have pointed to the no swimming signs, a toddler wadding in a dark lagoon at 9 pm or so at night, and what kind of parents were they kinda stuff. I have to agree, the response was quite different!

  • http://worldstarhiphop.com/ The Dutchess

    That's what I said ppl keep saying the parents are to blame but aren't they entitled to a degree of safety in or out of the water on resort property not just a No swimming sign Tell me point blank about gators don't let me have to guess about what a sign means or how much danger I'm in being in an inch of water

  • http://worldstarhiphop.com/ The Dutchess

    The resort knew they removed gators from their lagoon before, 5 times!!

  • http://worldstarhiphop.com/ The Dutchess

    basically telling you to stay out of the water? How about point blank saying stay out of the water Why do they have to play a guessing game?

  • LordeAmbler

    it was still a fcking gorilla like what the fck . A alligator thats likely but a damn gorilla. lmfao

  • barbeez

    Okay. We were tearing up the gorilla incident mother when we thought she was white. I honestly feel that the No Swimming signs mean just that...no swimming. It could indicate --no swimming because there wasn't a lifeguard. The signs should warn about dangerous live animals such as alligators. Looking at pictures of that beautiful resort, Id never think alligators were swarming through the water.

  • barbeez

    Right. Plus other people have come out and said they go to that area and allow their children to walk the waterline as well. No one knew alligators were that close. Ankle deep water...ain't swimming.

  • barbeez

    You know that but not visitors.

  • erykahx3

    So nobody is bashing the parents and bringing up the father's past criminal history? Nope? Okay.

  • Lolalao

    That's how I feel too. I'm not being insensitive but there's a sign. Let's be honest ppl would still go in that water if they had a gator sign up. We see ppl do dumb stuff everyday.

    Who doesn't know Florida is gator world? I've never been to Florida, I know that. Play or swim? Play= Don't go in water( not even a toe).

  • Ms. Jackson

    My point exactly. Now I hate the baby lost his life, however, the *authorities* wanted the black couple persecuted immediately.

  • Luvn_it

    The official story is they were having out door movie night. Which to me that's understandable reason why you had the kids out late, but why let him go down near or into that water. The movie wasn't being on the very edge of the lagoon.

  • brandieyez

    True because, I'm not from Florida. If I was there, and saw a no swimming sign. I would still think it was ok to at least put your feet in the water. No swimming means no swimming. But best believe if I saw a sign that said, "Beware of gators" I would be far away from that water! Point blank, they failed at warning the people (not from the area) of how dangerous the water is...

    End of the day, that's a horrible way to go for anyone (blk, wht, young, or old). Poor baby...?

  • brandieyez

    Seriously! They should of even had some type of fence....or something!

  • Tequila Mockingbird

    ABSOLUTELY!

  • brandieyez

    For real, because I didn't know it was like that! Not EVERY BODY OF WATER! Learn something new every day...

  • JennyFrmDaBlck

    Ugggggh really( back to the drawing board)

  • JennyFrmDaBlck

    Not the one your referring to.

  • SpideySense

    Agreed.

  • Cinnamon Brown

    You know what.... Folks can get mad at Disney and blame Disney.... But when it was that damn gorilla it was alllllll the parents fault.... Mayne Foh..... Over it.... I'm sure somebody has said this but hell I said it again.....

  • Cinnamon Brown

    Facts!

  • SpideySense

    Agreed. If they were at the mall and someone snatched the kid I'd be asking where the hel! his mother was at the time too.

  • SpideySense

    A good storm will give you some good sleep too. Something aboutnthe sound of rain falling

  • Jusstlookn

    Yassss, and clears the air of toxins

  • T3

    You're right. I'm tripping. Doesn't say don't enter, just no swimming. So yeah a gator warning would be proper.

  • Miss Thang

    "Looking at pictures of that beautiful resort, Id never think alligators were swarming through the water."

    I'm sorry but I've lived in Florida my whole life, been to Disney probably a dozen times and this made me laugh my azz off. Disney is built on a swamp. It LITERALLY is a swampland lol. Most of Florida is anyway. I have new compassion for tourists because I never knew people didn't know these things.

  • Miss Thang

    Death by drowning. Gators will spin their prey around and around in order to drown it.

  • Deborah Swan

    It is not right to make this about race. I would think a sign stating "No swimming" is more the equivalent of "No lifeguard on duty" (to save you from drowning if you get too far out) than of "Beware of alligators". If the toddler was 10 feet out by himself that is definitely a parental concern. (However, since the life guard wasn't even there when it happened his comments mean absolutely nothing.) If he was wading along the shore with a parent nearby watching him that is completely different. Hard to believe the dad could have gotten to the alligator if he was that far away from his child as alligators are really, really fast. I think in retrospect Disney would have been better off sodding the areas instead of making lagoons that no one can go near. The bottom line for me though is this: Had there been "Beware of alligators" signage I think the parents would have picked another safer place to relax with their children. The fact that dad tried to rescue his child by fighting with an alligator never expecting such a thing to happen compared to a mother that knew her child had already attempted this errant behavior and was well aware that there was a gorilla in the area and still didn't restrain him after that is another story completely, especially when you factor in that that mom also didn't attempt to rescue the child from the gorilla, yet her child lived. That family was damn lucky. The other family had no such luck. It's not a black or white thing. It's a common sense thing. The gorilla mom had a warning from her own child that he was capable of getting around the barriers that were set to keep people away from the gorilla. No such barrier was set up at Disney World. Other than the fact that parents were with their children in both instances they are two completely didn't situations. Quit trying to make it about race!

  • Jusstlookn

    Flordia is a swamp

  • Jusstlookn

    The lifeguard on duty was for wadding/splash pool. NOT THE LAGOON, where it says no swimming. PERIOD.

    "Jennifer Venditti Roye tells PEOPLE she is sharing the photos because she wants to stop the online parent-shaming of Lane's mom and dad. Her point is that she had no reason to believe it was dangerous for her son to wade into a few inches of water, despite the "No Swimming" signs."

    He should Not have been in Lagoon, it is Disney fault for not having singage about alligators there. However home owners come home to alligators to their homes and guees whos in the pool....alligators.

    The zoo was open for normal business hours and child did what he was Not supposed to do. The mom was stopped from going into moat, as their were dozen of people to restrain her, not at 930pm in the evening.

    Unforunately the child is dead, and that is tragic and heartbreaking. He should not have been been in lagoon. victim shaming of mom at zoo was about race, its all always about race. Take Care

  • Boonella

    That's why if you see a sign that says no swimming you should stay out of the water.

  • Boonella

    Because that's what no swimming means. Stay out of the water. It doesn't matter if you're walking or wading. No swimming means stay out of the water because there may be something in the water.

  • Boonella

    Okay....we all know that.

  • Boonella

    Yep he wasn't swimming; he was walking, but he should not have been in the water. There was a sign.

  • Boonella

    You're in Florida; that's your POSSIBLE ALLIGATOR AREA...the entire state of Florida.

  • http://worldstarhiphop.com/ The Dutchess

    Nobody wants play a guessing game when it comes to their safety If there are gators Say that !! & the resort didn't say that because they wanted to make money & not scare the tourists & that's exactly why they're 100% liable

  • Boonella

    Not scare the tourists? Everyone knows there are gators here. There is a small park called Gator Land. There is no hiding that there are gators in Florida. I don't think they are 100% liable and no one will know until the court cases start and/or are settled out of court.

  • http://worldstarhiphop.com/ The Dutchess

    Of course there are gators in FL but if these tourists from out of state were aware that a private lagoon on resort property had gators in it do you think they would have gone anywhere near it? No! Disney is liable & they are gonna pay big time point blank

  • Boonella

    Private lagoon or public; if you see a body of water in Florida you should assume there may be a gator in the water. There is no way to control where the gators go; that's why the place the signs there.

  • Tequila Mockingbird

    That's not true. The reason this had gators was cuz this man made area for this resort was connected to a canal that's how gators got in, if theyou had blocked it off there wouldn't b gators and they wouldn't need signs, so you're logic of everywhere in Florida has gators is meaningless in that scenario. Some of disney staff has even said they've seen gators on occasion, therfore, you need signs.

  • Boonella

    There were signs: No Swimming. If you choose to ignore that; whatever happens is on you. You can try and block off whatever you want down here, but I am telling you if a gator wants to get in there; then they will. They put the sign up and lots of people ignored the sign. Nothing happened to the other people who ignored the sign, but unfortunately this family wasn't so lucky.

  • Tequila Mockingbird

    The sign said no swimming, not no walking in ankle deep water. There were other families and other kids there it wasn't jus his family. You make it seem as if his family was somewhere they shouldn't have been at night and that's not the case. The resort was doing a movie night near the water for the families that's y they were out there at that time.

  • Boonella

    The sign means stay out of the water. You can try and flip it how you want, but Disney did put up a sign.

  • Doink_Ahanahue

    "Is Disney really at fault for little Lane’s tragic death, or is it his parents’ fault for ignoring the signs?"

    It IS his parents fault. NO SWIMMING means no swimming for whatever reason! People are so caught up in "doing what I want to do no matter what" that they lose all common sense. Those signs weren't there for nothing and alligator don't just haphazardly attack at all times.

    Parents of ALL COLOR: Look back at your parents and grandparents. Old School parenting taught us sense and kept us alive!

  • Tequila Mockingbird

    No they wouldn't. Do you know wut swimming is? NOBODY WAS DOING THAT. Everyone ignored the signs. Other parents' kids were doing the same thing this boy was doing. There were lifeguards there who didn't say anothing because by them letting their kids play on the water line wasn't against the rules.

  • Boonella

    LOL why are you yelling? It's just a conversation. So last time; because you are getting upset and it's not that serious. No swimming means stay out of the water. Even your feet, fingers, toes, arms, elbows, hair, your a$$....just stay out of the water. We can agree to disagree.....LOL

  • Tequila Mockingbird

    No it doesn't. If u mean stay out of the water then have a sign that says STAY OUT OF THE WATER! They did not have a sign warning about the potential danger of gators and you can spin it how u want but that's a lawsuit whether you think so or not, a, baby died stop being insensitive and defending disney. I love Disney but they effed up.

  • Boonella

    Now I am being insensitive? Okay. I have no reason to defend Disney; I don't even visit Disney. But again if you see a sign in Florida that says no swimming you should stay out of the water. That's what it is. And stop yelling; it's not that serious.

  • Tequila Mockingbird

    I'm not yelling im trying to get you to understand. If there's a sign that says no swimming people will still put their feet in. If you want them to stay out you say stay out. If you DONT want ppl to park in a certain area do you put up a sign that says no parking from 6 am to 6 pm? Leaving a time span where ppl can and will park or do will you jus put up a sign that says no parking anytime? You can't be vague with signs. By you saying spin it how you want but disney put up a sign is you defending them for them NOT taking the extra step to put up another sign about the potential danger of gators.

  • Boonella

    You're not going to get me to understand your point. You want to make excuses for people who don't/won't follow basic rules. No need to discuss it anymore; again we agree to disagree.

  • Tequila Mockingbird

    So why didn't the lifeguards who r STAFF of Disney say anything to these parents if they were breaking the rules?

  • Tequila Mockingbird

    Again caps doesn't always mean yelling its for you to focus on a major point...

  • Boonella

    You would have to ask Disney...

  • Boonella

    No it means you're yelling...

  • yoni

    You changed your name to Nameless? LMAOOOOO :ghost:

  • yoni

    I'm SO WEAK at the name change. LMAOOOO

  • Tequila Mockingbird

    That's because they weren't breaking any rules. The lifeguards said this themselves and even if there were breaking rules (like you claim) the staff still didn't say anything meaning Disney is still at fault.

  • Boonella

    Oh you were there? I didn't know that. You should have said that from the beginning. Where is the link of the Disney employees saying this?

  • Tequila Mockingbird

    No it doesn't. You don't know me so don't assume I'm doing something that I'm not. If I meant to be yelling I have no problem telling you that

  • Boonella

    I don't have to know you; it's not about knowing you.

  • Tequila Mockingbird

    No but I did extensive research on this incident and Disney staff was interviewed other disney staff also confirmed seeing gators on occasion in the area, Any more questions?

  • Boonella

    Yes; where is the link for these stories

  • Tequila Mockingbird

    So don't assume my intentions based on wut and how im typing. I'm confirming for you now that's not wut I was doing it was merely to get you to focus on a major point

  • Boonella

    but that's not what happened...I didn't focus on any point because you were yelling.

  • Tequila Mockingbird
  • Boonella

    Didn't see any direct quotes from Disney employees and that's probably because Disney will not allow them to speak on it until the court case is over or the settlement is reached.

  • Tequila Mockingbird
  • Tequila Mockingbird

    That very well may be but that info is from staff no tourists or visitors would know that. Actually I think they need that info before a settlement because that'll determine if Disney had knowledge and is at fault

  • Boonella

    No Disney staff would go on record about this incident without losing their job. Once again we can agree to disagree...you're not going to change my mind and I am not going to change yours....on to the next subject....

  • G.

    even thou the charges was drop with the black family but look what they had to go through and even thou it was not death of a young one the outcry of negative comments and meme was all around the post ,comments, but this similar situation is no different but yes with a different response i'm shocked, confused, hurt that this America I call home has so many people that blatantly show racism and favoritism. if you are a parent you know all small kids are curious and will get away in a blink of a eye.no one is at fault it was a accident plain and simple. god keep and cover this family in their time of need. rip lil angel.

  • Guest who

    So the same people that wanted to prosecute the parents of the child in the gorilla incident are not looking for police records or mugshots of the white parents. We don't even know what they look like unlike the black parents they blasted the next day. Outrageous!

  • http://www.swedishsoul.com Christina Duphorn Zehnder

    guess the kid waded in the water. really.... there a signs that say do not swim..... GTFOH.

  • SpiceGirl

    FlorDuh=water=GATORS!

  • Allihave2say

    Ah! Yes! But why didn't the gator eat him? Maybe he was too sweet. :(

  • http://worldstarhiphop.com/ The Dutchess

    I get that but think about it this is a Disney resort you have ppl of all ages from all over the country & other countries coming there Do you really want to take it for granted that they will just assume there are alligators in the water when there are no signs to point that out& there aren't any barriers btwn the unaware ppl & the lagoon?

  • Boonella

    Perhaps it's because I live in Orlando. I would hope anyone coming to Orlando/Florida understands that we have gators. Again they are everywhere; there is a video of one walking around on a golf course. I had to drive around one that was sun bathing in the street one time. They are everywhere down here....Yes I believe people should always assume there is a gator in any body of water in Florida...it's better to err on the safe side.

  • http://worldstarhiphop.com/ The Dutchess

    Definitely! & I can agree with that . It takes incidents like this to make ppl who aren't from there aware it's not safe & you may not be sufficiently warned. I don't know how you do it,lol

  • Tequila Mockingbird
  • renee bennings

    You are all stupid. The boy was not swimming. There were no signs indicating there are dangerous creatures to beware of in the lagoon; which Disney is now correcting. This case cannot be compared to the gorilla incident and has nothing to do with color of skin. Pray for this family and boycott Disneyland. They are scheisters.

  • renee bennings

    Boonella... you are an idiot ...with no heart.

  • Brian

    The child was less than 1foot from the shoreline when the alligator lunged at him and dragged him deeper into the water. The statement that the child was 10feet from the shoreline was made in regard to the alligator pulling him away. Some fools see the video of the gorilla attacking the little boy at the Zoo and claim the Gorilla was "protecting him". They are idiots. Some fools think that the little two year old boy swam 10feet into the water, without reading that he was in the alligator's mouth at the time. Both sets of fools have an agenda that is not supported by the actual facts, so they warp reality to fit what message they want to preach from their soapbox.

  • Kimberly Pedro

    People keep harping on the fact that the sign did not warn of alligators. In my opinion it did not have to. Seeing the sign that said "No Swimming" to the average person is warning enough. Unlike, the gorilla incident this family has lost a child. We don't need to make them feel any worse than they are already feeling. We are not experiencing the hurt/loss that they are experiencing. They left the state of NE with three bubbly, healthy and living children for a family vacation which has unfortunately become an unforgettable one for all of the wrong reasons. We are not reliving their nightmare every time we close our eyes. I am sure that they are subconsciously (they will never admit their fault out loud in case they pursue legal action) admitting their guilt, lack of attention and fault in the loss of their child. We definitely cannot blame the alligator because it was only doing what it instinctively knows to do (hunt, strike, kill). It is only by the blessings of God that the child was not consumed ( in part or completely) then that would have made this situation worse. I have been to Florida many times and I do not dare go near any lake, creek or large standing body of water (pools are exempt) because I am well aware of the alligators that may be lurking about and I am not even a FL native.
    I do not see how Disney World could assume any blame in the unfortunate events because the sign was posted. Just like the signs warning patrons about particular rides. It is up to the reader(s) of the sign whether or not they will heed the warnings.

  • renee bennings

    The boy was not swimming. Disney at fault.

  • Boonella

    Well thank you very much....lol I think I do have a heart though...i think...Happy Sunday!!

  • renee bennings

    The child was not in the water. Disney negligent. $$$

  • renee bennings

    P.s. I mean they didnt want to to deter customers. It's all about $$$

  • Farhan Khan

    Disney is stupid and they should pay the price what ever the family will ask for....because if they cant control Gators, they should fence it because Gator can come on beach and snatch. I was at another resort in 2014 and they have prominent sigh of Gator in Water and Gator around lake area in the night time. so that guest should be alert and cautious. it doesn't hurt anyone placing that sign. I am from IL and when you see no swimming sign it means in IL that water is contaminated. it doesn't mean Water has Gator and Disney is an International Resort not a local Florida residents resort. If only Florida residents are visiting Disney then no swimming sign make sense that it could have Gator but if a person is coming from different part of world or different part of US, they should have posted sign of Gator in Lakes or man made beaches. I am sure Disney hide that because of their greedy nature. which cost a family a life of their 2 years old kid.

  • Boonella

    I wish you weren't so late to the show..I have already responded to every point you made...so I have no desire to revisit the subject...Happy Monday!!

  • Farhan Khan

    Oh really - how much Disney pay you for protecting their image???

    Disney was at fault and that is a reality - If i cant protect my guest, i shouldn't invite them. simple logic if Disney has no control on Gator and has no possible methods of rescuing kids under Gator attack during certain timings - they should close those area like they close and clean their rides everyday.

  • Miss Thang

    Disney has signs on rides that say you have to be a certain height to go on the ride. Do you need a reason why you have to be a certain height? Sure, let's put a sign that says "Don't come on this ride unless you are at least 40 inches tall because our seats are not fitted for your size and you may slip out and our seatbelts are too short for you etc etc". No, common sense says there's a good safety reason why you should be a certain height for that ride so stay your ass off that ride unless you are tall enough.

  • Farhan Khan

    Disney is stupid and they should pay the price what ever the family will ask for....because if they cant control Gators, they should fence it because Gator can come on beach and snatch. I was at another resort in 2014 and they have prominent sigh of Gator in Water and Gator around lake area in the night time. so that guest should be alert and cautious. it doesn't hurt anyone placing that sign. I am from IL and when you see no swimming sign it means in IL that water is contaminated. it doesn't mean Water has Gator and Disney is an International Resort not a local Florida residents resort. If only Florida residents are visiting Disney then no swimming sign make sense that it could have Gator but if a person is coming from different part of world or different part of US, they should have posted sign of Gator in Lakes or man made beaches. I am sure Disney hide that because of their greedy nature. which cost a family a life of their 2 years old kid.

  • Boonella

    You're funny...I don't care about Disney at all, but if you're really interested in how I feel; just read all the other responses.....lmaoooo..you really are funny.

  • Adrienne Meier

    They had signs saying no swimming or playing in the water.