Nate Parker

Hollywood's latest Slave film "The Birth of a Nation" is a cause célèbre for those who are anxious to make up for shutting out black actors at last year's Oscar Awards.

"The Birth of a Nation" is a fictional retelling of the Nat Turner Rebellion in which slaves rose up against their white oppressors.

The Oscar talk surrounding 'Nation' is deafening and predictable. Of course 'Nation' will win an Oscar or 2 by default: it's a slave movie.

It's gotten to the point where every slave film that gets green-lighted in Hollywood is a guaranteed Oscar winner -- if only to prove a point.

But sleazy Hollywood insiders are on a mission to torpedo the slave film du jour by dragging down its star, writer and director Nate Parker.

Parker and his college roommate Jean McGianni Celestin, both 19 at the time, were accused and charged with raping an 18-year-old woman when they were Penn State students in 1999.

Parker was acquitted at a swift trial. Celestin was convicted of sexual assault, but the conviction was later overturned on appeal.

Despite his acquittal, Parker -- who claims the sex was "unambiguously consensual" -- is being dogged by the rape accusations as if he was convicted.

The woman's brother came forward recently to announce she committed suicide in 2012 at age 30. The man said his sister overdosed on sleeping pills in a mental health facility.

He added that the woman was drunk and passed out in their dorm room, and that Parker and Celestin took advantage of her. Parker wore a condom, Celestin did not.

Parker expressed his "profound sorrow" in a post on his Facebook page.

“These are my words. Written from my heart and not filtered through a third party gaze. Please read these separate from any platform I may have, but from me as a fellow human being," Parker writes.

He added: "I cannot change what has happened. I cannot bring this young woman who was someone else’s daughter, someone’s sister and someone’s mother back to life… I look back on that time, my indignant attitude and my heartfelt mission to prove my innocence with eyes that are more wise with time."

Read the full text of the post below.

Facebook.com/OrigiNateParker -- “Over the last several days, a part of my past – my arrest, trial and acquittal on charges of sexual assault – has become a focal point for media coverage, social media speculation and industry conversation. I understand why so many are concerned and rightfully have questions. These issues of a women’s right to be safe and of men and women engaging in healthy relationships are extremely important to talk about, however difficult. And more personally, as a father, a husband, a brother and man of deep faith, I understand how much confusion and pain this incident has had on so many, most importantly the young woman who was involved,” Nate continued. “I myself just learned that the young woman ended her own life several years ago and I am filled with profound sorrow…I can’t tell you how hard it is to hear this news. I can’t help but think of all the implications this has for her family.

I cannot- nor do I want to ignore the pain she endured during and following our trial. While I maintain my innocence that the encounter was unambiguously consensual, there are things more important than the law. There is morality; no one who calls himself a man of faith should even be in that situation. As a 36-year-old father of daughters and person of faith, I look back on that time as a teenager and can say without hesitation that I should have used more wisdom.

I look back on that time, my indignant attitude and my heartfelt mission to prove my innocence with eyes that are more wise with time. I see now that I may not have shown enough empathy even as I fought to clear my name. Empathy for the young woman and empathy for the seriousness of the situation I put myself and others in.

I cannot change what has happened. I cannot bring this young woman who was someone else’s daughter, someone’s sister and someone’s mother back to life…

I have changed so much since nineteen. I’ve grown and matured in so many ways and still have more learning and growth to do. I have tried to conduct myself in a way that honors my entire community – and will continue to do this to the best of my ability.

All of this said, I also know there are wounds that neither time nor words can heal.

I have never run from this period in my life and I never ever will. Please don’t take this as an attempt to solve this with a statement. I urge you only to take accept this letter as my response to the moment.

Nate

  • Full Monty

    Fools gonna get enough of running trains on these girls.

  • Gabriella Greentree

    As somebody who has been through a similar situation, I HAVE ZERO SYMPATHY, EMPATHY, OR FUCKS TO GIVE ANYONE WHO HAS BEEN ACCUSED OF ASSAULT. CONVICTED OR OTHERWISE. ITS NOT ABOUT YOU!!!!

  • digital_femme

    Tired of these slave movies. That history is of course important, and we should never forget, but certain people want to make DAMNED sure that we don't forget what they consider to be our roots. We are so much more than that. R.I.P. to the victim.

  • MsSincerity

    I'm assuming that she was beige. I can't help but think of my ancestors who were raped daily with no f - -ks given, so umm.....

  • askquestions

    Blah blah blah another slave movie.

  • Vonn

    He was accused & acquitted of rape in 1999. She killed herself in 2012 & her brother is dragging this story back up in 2016. This is sad for Nate & this girl's family.

  • LibraGirlonly

    I'm still going to support this movie. His name was cleared so I mean it's behind him at this point. I hate this lady ended her life but don't expect me not to support this movie because of a which hunt. Nope and besides this movie is about Nat Turner not Nate Parker.

  • Trey

    If he was exonerated..why was this charged not expunged.

    Dude gonna get blackballed for this....

  • That’s Interesting

    I have no evidence but believe he raped that girl or something very sketchy went on which he was a part of. Read his own words.

  • 5’5″.5w/browneyes

    Hmmmm....side eye cocked?

  • MookieFly

    I feel sorry for the victim. To still be carrying that type of luggage almost 10 years later that it pushes you over the edge to harm yourself? I know some people today who are still dealing with the things done to them as a child. That is rough! R.I.P.

    Hmph...Nate...*walks out the room*

  • LibraGirlonly

    I got from it that he made some bad choices in the situation not that he actually did something wrong.

  • askquestions

    Let's not go see this movie (I digress, can't tell you what to do) simply because a black man played a major role in its creation.

    There isn't another slave movie that can be made that'll tell us anything we don't already know.

    If one is created with new material, it wouldn't be like anything we've ever seen.

  • askquestions

    I have issues I try bringing up to my parents to discuss and they either avoid it or pretend it doesn't exists.

    It's tough finding that fine line between loving them and moving on with my life.

  • That’s Interesting

    I believe he slept with the girl when she was drunk or about to pass out. Then he allowed the friend to rape her. Dirty.

  • LibraGirlonly

    There is an uplifting movie coming out about the black women who made it possible to travel to the moon or space. They kept that hush hush didn't they.

  • https://www.etsy.com/shop/AMarieNaturals Lovezoe

    Jean is also the screenwriter or something for the movie. This movie more than likely won't be released. He had a deal of the movie made X he would get $20mil good luck with that.

  • LibraGirlonly

    It could be something like that. The friend was charged so I don't know hmmmmm.

  • KIC came to slay!

    I'm on the fence. Maybe the suicide was a result of her mental issues and guilt of wrongfully accusing these guys. He was found innocent. Currently how often does that happen to a Black man. I don't know I'm just not about to crucify him considering the same was done to Brian Banks and the heifa came back and admitted she lied. But I ain't seeing the movie. Django was the last slave movie I watched...

  • That’s Interesting

    That's what I think and IMO he's just as guilty.

  • Vonn

    I am going to see that one. Cookie, Janelle, and the woman from The Help. Can't recall her name

  • Sucker Free

    At least he responded...

    Every saint has a past...every sinner has a future

    Not much to say I could go in on his choice of pink toe but imma let Nate finish

  • ReadingIsFundamental4Real

    .............. So much to say and none of it will change anything.

  • askquestions

    So ...before all this, when he was just acting, ect. no one wanted to bring up his past?

  • LibraGirlonly

    Octavia Spencer.

  • goat

    Yeah, I'm gonna sit this one out.

  • Incog-knee-gress

    I dont think he has to keep apologizing for it. It happened. He was
    tried. Found not guilty. By a court of law. Says it was consensual. He apologized THEN. Sorry she off'd herself. truly am. HE is too. but hell what else is he supposed to do?

  • askquestions

    •married white woman

    •Makes film about Black Revolt

    •Sounds about right.

  • digital_femme

    I saw an article about it yesterday! Made me smile. Can't wait to see it!!

  • http://totallifechanges.com/PurTEA VanillaCaramel2shotsExpresso

    Exactly...I don't know her situation but he was acquitted. That's more than a not guilty. He made a poor choice in his mind and now looking back he feels in trying to prove his innocence he needed validation. Unfortunately the young woman was invalidated through the process and only the three of them knew what really happened. This man deserves the right to move forward ...fully move forward.

  • SameoleJ

    So, just when this movie about oppressed people rising, which has been a more common conversation with all the killings and acquittals.....just when a movie that could "give them folks an idea and inspiration" is about to be released.......here comes this!! Nate has been out on the screen for some years now......so why didn't the brother bring this up back in 2012? Why 4 years (almost 5 years) later?

    For those who want to fall for this "banana in the tail pipe", go right on ahead! I will be dragging folks kicking and screaming to this simply because I see the plan.

    Oh and it isn't just another slave movie.....this is about a SLAVE REVOLT, which tells the story of them fighting back, not just surviving.

  • Jen_n_juice

    Sir please realize even though you married a Becky you are still a negro and they will put you in your place (by bringing up your past, arrest record, etc) when they see fit.

  • digital_femme

    And yes it was kept hush hush because they did NOT talk about them in school!!

  • ZRoJoTheLezBeyond

    At 18/19 they know the difference between right & wrong. F'in someone that's about to pass out or already passed out just ain't right.

  • KIC came to slay!

    My point exactly. I just find it ironic that what happened 17 years ago is becoming headline news now that this movie is about to be released.

  • That’s Interesting

    No it's not. Then letting your friend do it next...

  • LibraGirlonly

    Yessss but you know people won't let him. Meanwhile Roman Polanski is still making movies. He is the white man that raped that young girl in Hollyweird and he flew the coop to Switzerland.

  • Vonn

    I've always felt that both parties in a rape case should remain anonymous. Plenty of ppl are falsely of rape & you cannot unring a bell. You will always be known as the person accused of rape. People are always going to bring it up. If you are actually found guilty, your name should be released at that point.

  • KayCeiSoul

    Her brother needs a swift kick up his ass, and is obviously doing the Evil Monkey stare with pointed finger in order to shift the guilt. I would think that a young lady who participated in orgy type sex in college had an agenda of her own from jump, and likely was rebellious at home FIRST. This man was cleared, she killed herself over a decade later, and I don't wanna hear about no ghatdamb peas.
    If a person is cleared of assault charges they are INNOCENT. PERIOD. GOOD DAY SIR,

  • ZRoJoTheLezBeyond

    Exactly. My son is 16 going on 17 and knows stuff like that isn't right at all. He knows better.

  • MissHarlem

    It's very interesting that a movie about Nat Turner which is definitely important is coming out and this all of a sudden. Sheep's think this is another slave movie because of their ignorance but it's not. I already know I'm gonna have to open up school today ?

  • S. Williams

    This movie is about the revolt. Showing the slaves who were willing to die for their freedom even when they kept getting beaten into submission. The others to me always showed 90% of the slaves subdued and subservient and that 1 slave who dared to be bold. This film shows how one person ignited a revolt in many slaves and shows us fighting. Very prevalent to what we as black people have to do today. Not settle for the scraps white society tries to force us to be "grateful" for.

  • SameoleJ

    THANK and YOU!!

  • stav

    Our history is one of diversity, and is much richer than just the same old slave stories. I am so sick of this story being reiterated. We know the horrible history of this country(and black slaves period) that is still so prevalent, however there is so much more to us as a people than this, please stop with the slave movies already.

  • LibraGirlonly

    Somebody in Hollyweird probably went and found him to cause commotion.

  • Incog-knee-gress

    Please do. I get tired of its just another slave movie talk. Why do we need another one. Blah blah blah.

    *school is officially in session*

    Do it for the blog hun. DO IT.

  • https://www.etsy.com/shop/AMarieNaturals Lovezoe

    You see the comment down below. Tired of seeing slave movies, but I bet they front row at them Waynas movies. If Nat don't inspire the people...

  • LibraGirlonly

    Hurry lol that's why this movie is needed.

  • http://www.mylifeinlame.com/?m=1 Kimberly

    While they are passed out drunk, at that. In some states a dunk person can't consent to anything anyhow. It's against the law...

  • mela.reign77

    We have had a host of Slave movies unfold over the past several years in abundance. What are they really trying to tell us? Are these movies a reminder because I'm over the notion that they are set forth to show us what we went through as a race. To me it's like taking the scab off a wound time and time again and pouring burning Alcohol in it, sorry I don't need the reminder. I'm so over them really I don't need a movie to see that they still have some sort of control over us still to this day. I see this through the media, jobs, police beatings you name it. Now as far as this young man and the rape allegations I pray for this young woman's family. Rape was and is such a serious problem that sometime gets swept under the rug. It's so sad in some cases when the legal system and the likes tear the victim apart and make them feel like the attacker. Everyone deals with things in a different way and with time they eventually heal, it's tragic that this young woman never found her peace.

  • JJ

    I wasn't there, I don't know what happened she could have consented to one and not the other. The whole situation sounds like the 3 of them were high or drunk and bad decisions were made by everyone. This is why I stand by if you're going to drink or do drugs do it around people you truly trust because people that don't care about your well being can take advantage of you easily. Whether they rape you, Rob you, kill you, use your blacked out memory to accuse you of things you had no clue if you did or didn't do.

  • MookieFly

    I can understand that. It can be hard to go past a wall of fear that holds people back from speaking up.

  • Str8tUpMenace

    Sooooooooo, this news is just now coming out, and it happened back in 99???????

  • http://www.mylifeinlame.com/?m=1 Kimberly

    Me too. We get it. No new stories here.

  • Shay boogie

    These same folks will go see every Spider-Man and batman movie as if there weren't 10 previously made. Smh

  • Str8tUpMenace

    Do it, bew!!! Do it.

  • Vonn

    Yes, thank you! Couldn't think of Taraji's name at first either. I'm brain dead this early in the day..

  • https://www.etsy.com/shop/AMarieNaturals Lovezoe

    Define slave movie. Why should we forget what our people went through?

  • KIC came to slay!

    I agree. Even reading comments on here shows that. This man was tried by a court of law and found not guilty yet he's still being prosecuted by people that don't have any of the evidence that was presented to a judge and jury.

  • Str8tUpMenace

    She obviously had more issues going on other than this incident here.

  • KayCeiSoul

    Has it been proven that this is even why she killed herself? Drama.

  • Incog-knee-gress

    What is this they? "They" are doing another slave movie? "They" are pushing it on us?

    What part of A BLACK MAN WROTE this did yall miss? They aint write shyt. They may have funded it. But this is the brain child of a black man.

  • SameoleJ

    I just started the lesson below!! And, um....SHEEPLE!! You are falling into the trap of thumbing your nose to "another slave movie", as they want you to get so sick of them, so that when one comes along that CAN bring about change....you won't go see it, as it is just "another slave movie". Your azz is being conditioned to be against your very history, which you should be learning from. Every slave movie ISN'T the same, ESPECIALLY when a black person has the chance to tell it fully....does 12 Years a Slave ring a bell for y'all? Cause I know that was a story "they" didn't want told.

    Go on and take over this lesson MissHarlem!!

  • http://www.keenready.com KeenReady.COM ?

    Negras gone learn to leave those that age like milk ALONE...

  • mainey

    I will bring this up on every story like this. The issue is consent. A person cannot consent if they are under the influence of anything. Anything! We really need to start impressing this on our youth.

  • SameoleJ

    They probably ran in droves to see Django!!

  • MissHarlem

    I see I don't have to have class for you because you are teaching. Thank you

  • Incog-knee-gress

    Read folks. READ. Jesus.

  • Jen_n_juice

    I don't wear watches today because I was sexually assaulted in HS. Short version. ... I was able to fight my hardest to get away. When I finally broke free and ran he yelled out "I got yo watch" (which was the last gift my grandmother have me before she died). I cried all the way to the pay phone knowing I'd never get that watch back. Still has me a lil effed up today. So I can imagine what this woman went thru

  • MissHarlem

    Hey hun

  • SameoleJ

    CHILE!!!

  • ebonics

    ... Sent by the savior, welcome the rasta ...

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LfeIfiiBTfY

  • KIC came to slay!

    I'm sitting at my desk.. Enlighten me.

  • http://www.keenready.com KeenReady.COM ?

    Even those you so call "trust" will have you spread eagle if the right drink/drug comes along...

  • Buttercup

    They are too busy trying to say we should move on.

  • KayCeiSoul

    HEYYYYY!!!
    Yes she did. That is probably the reason why they threw the case out.

  • scentsychick30

    Strange this is just now being brought up and this guy has been in films recently. No one brought this up when beyond the lights came out.?I won't be supporting maybe becky with her good hair can?Just kidding I always try to support black films.

  • KIC came to slay!

    I said my last slave movie was Django. I admit it. But I ain't been to a Waynas movie or any other movie of fuckery.

  • SameoleJ

    And can't tell you what we should move in to!! DA FUQ!!!

  • SameoleJ

    Did you watch 12 Years A Slave? Came out AFTER Django and was a different take on slavery.

  • Str8tUpMenace

    Heyyyyy baby cakes. How's out blog baby??? About 2 or 3 years old, going on 35, right???

  • LibraGirlonly

    Chile I couldn't go see this movie at the theater I could only watch it in the comforts of my home.

  • MissHarlem

    ? hey SW. You needs no schooling except those qtna that I'm also waiting on ?

  • http://www.keenready.com KeenReady.COM ?

    DEAD

  • SameoleJ

    On my way to join you...is there room?!

  • KIC came to slay!

    Muah: WE ain't gon eva get those answers.....OKAY!!!

  • MissHarlem

    You just warmed my whole heart ?

  • https://www.etsy.com/shop/AMarieNaturals Lovezoe

    Or a watch every hallmark movie like I do. How many love stories gone be told?

  • Genia

    what is appealing about sticking a penis in the Vag of an unconscious woman? WHYYYY would that be a turn on to anyone.

  • Genia

    what is appealing about sticking a penis in the Vag of an unconscious woman? WHYYYY would that be a turn on to anyone.

  • https://www.etsy.com/shop/AMarieNaturals Lovezoe

    I see why all waiting impatiently at the doe.

  • https://www.etsy.com/shop/AMarieNaturals Lovezoe

    I see why all waiting impatiently at the doe.

  • Shay boogie

    The same ones!!!! I'm a widow with 2 kids and I'm afraid to fall in love. Lol.

  • Shay boogie

    The same ones!!!! I'm a widow with 2 kids and I'm afraid to fall in love. Lol.

  • https://www.etsy.com/shop/AMarieNaturals Lovezoe

    Too much work. I told someone to watch YT videos about something. They legit said that's too much. In 2016.

  • https://www.etsy.com/shop/AMarieNaturals Lovezoe

    Too much work. I told someone to watch YT videos about something. They legit said that's too much. In 2016.

  • http://www.keenready.com KeenReady.COM ?

    Eh that's debatable...but carry on...

  • http://www.keenready.com KeenReady.COM ?

    Eh that's debatable...but carry on...

  • MissHarlem

    Any and everything European but our history which they are rewriting and not telling all together it's a no SMH

  • MissHarlem

    Any and everything European but our history which they are rewriting and not telling all together it's a no SMH

  • goat

    Hey MissHarlem. How are you? Just trying to get back into the swing of things. Went to Seattle for a week and got spoiled by the greenery.

  • goat

    Hey MissHarlem. How are you? Just trying to get back into the swing of things. Went to Seattle for a week and got spoiled by the greenery.

  • MissHarlem

    Girl!!!

  • MissHarlem

    Girl!!!

  • KIC came to slay!

    Nope. Honestly, I haven't been to the movies since before I was pregnant. With a two year old, I just wait for Netflix to drop the new releases in the mail. Also with all men in my house all I do see is action packed San Andres, Fast and Furious or animated stuff. In addition to that and working full time and in school fulltime, these last two years have been a blur with extra curricular stuff. I'm behind on everything but Greenleaf.

  • KIC came to slay!

    Nope. Honestly, I haven't been to the movies since before I was pregnant. With a two year old, I just wait for Netflix to drop the new releases in the mail. Also with all men in my house all I do see is action packed San Andres, Fast and Furious or animated stuff. In addition to that and working full time and in school fulltime, these last two years have been a blur with extra curricular stuff. I'm behind on everything but Greenleaf.

  • Str8tUpMenace

    Why????? Cuz you'd be ready to shank erry YT you see in public, huh???? Just like me *giggles*

  • Str8tUpMenace

    Why????? Cuz you'd be ready to shank erry YT you see in public, huh???? Just like me *giggles*

  • Blaque Mahogany

    Chile...these saltines will get you one way or the other. I didn't read that really long post he wrote. Hope he didn't apologize.

  • Blaque Mahogany

    Chile...these saltines will get you one way or the other. I didn't read that really long post he wrote. Hope he didn't apologize.

  • https://www.etsy.com/shop/AMarieNaturals Lovezoe

    Or was live tweeting Underground

  • https://www.etsy.com/shop/AMarieNaturals Lovezoe

    Or was live tweeting Underground

  • Wuts got Petty Davis Eyes..

    Dayum Sandy..I ask for a post and yougivemethis?!!! I can't eben comment..Ill wait on the OFF Topic signal...

  • Wuts got Petty Davis Eyes..

    Dayum Sandy..I ask for a post and yougivemethis?!!! I can't eben comment..Ill wait on the OFF Topic signal...

  • LibraGirlonly

    That and the fact that it almost had comedy in it.

  • LibraGirlonly

    That and the fact that it almost had comedy in it.

  • Incog-knee-gress

    Some slave movies I watch. Old and new. "Mandingo" one of my fave older
    ones. And I admit too... its a fave bc Ken Norton is fine AF in it. Not
    really the message. "Glory". Few others. IDK. I think its up to folks to
    watch what they want and dont judge or be mean or heartless to the
    history bc folks dont agree. If you dont want to see it...then dont.
    Just like I respect that, I feel folks shouldnt sit up here and be like
    well I think we should all boycott it. Fukkin WHY? Bc YOU have an issue
    with the message? FOMF

  • Incog-knee-gress

    Some slave movies I watch. Old and new. "Mandingo" one of my fave older
    ones. And I admit too... its a fave bc Ken Norton is fine AF in it. Not
    really the message. "Glory". Few others. IDK. I think its up to folks to
    watch what they want and dont judge or be mean or heartless to the
    history bc folks dont agree. If you dont want to see it...then dont.
    Just like I respect that, I feel folks shouldnt sit up here and be like
    well I think we should all boycott it. Fukkin WHY? Bc YOU have an issue
    with the message? FOMF

  • Wuts got Petty Davis Eyes..

    He only said he should have been more empathetic while trying to prove his innocence..

  • Wuts got Petty Davis Eyes..

    He only said he should have been more empathetic while trying to prove his innocence..

  • Lovelove

    Bye Nate... Let the Beckys of the world defend or speak on your behalf. Let the cards and backlash fall where they may....

  • Lovelove

    Bye Nate... Let the Beckys of the world defend or speak on your behalf. Let the cards and backlash fall where they may....

  • Shay boogie

    It's not that this is just coming out..... It has been out there. I actually knew about this Bc I googled him when I watched beyond the lights. The problem is he's constantly being asked about it doing press and his answer was less empathetic. He didn't flat out say he was innocent and talked about how hard of a life he had.... Skipping over the subject. Honestly..... The same people who were mad at Bill for having sex without consent should be mad at Nate. The sad part is...... If you boycott this movie, some will never know the story. It's a lose lose situation.

  • Shay boogie

    It's not that this is just coming out..... It has been out there. I actually knew about this Bc I googled him when I watched beyond the lights. The problem is he's constantly being asked about it doing press and his answer was less empathetic. He didn't flat out say he was innocent and talked about how hard of a life he had.... Skipping over the subject. Honestly..... The same people who were mad at Bill for having sex without consent should be mad at Nate. The sad part is...... If you boycott this movie, some will never know the story. It's a lose lose situation.

  • Dee Moe

    He and the girl had been having sex for a year.

  • Dee Moe

    He and the girl had been having sex for a year.

  • goat

    Come'on, it's plenty of room.

  • goat

    Come'on, it's plenty of room.

  • Shay boogie

    And I think that's where all of this is stemming from to be honest.

  • Shay boogie

    And I think that's where all of this is stemming from to be honest.

  • Wuts got Petty Davis Eyes..

    I think we need a "CURRENT DAY" slavery movie...It would prolly piss a lot of folks off to realize they are modern day slaves..

  • Wuts got Petty Davis Eyes..

    I think we need a "CURRENT DAY" slavery movie...It would prolly piss a lot of folks off to realize they are modern day slaves..

  • LibraGirlonly

    Oh snap...????

  • B.Sweet is Savage

    Off topic

  • MzFutureLCSW

    "Nat Turner Rebellion in which slaves rose up against their white oppressors"

    LET ME FIX THAT FOR YOU SANDY: Nat Turner Rebellion in which PRISONERS OF WAR rose up against their white oppressors

  • Shay boogie

    My husband is the worse. Lol. So yea, we have to watch them at home Bc he hates Yt for days after lol.

  • That’s Interesting

    Exactly! All these black women defending him when that sure didn't teach him to leave Becky alone. I got nothing for him.

  • Shay boogie

    Yaassssssss for Greenleaf!

  • LibraGirlonly

    This one is about the slave revolt though so it's not like the yesa massa ones.

  • https://www.etsy.com/shop/AMarieNaturals Lovezoe

    So what you think about Grace calling the cops on daddy?

  • goat

    We already have them, just take your pic from which ever fake reality show they're airing on TV these days. Want modern slave music, turn on the radio.

  • KIC came to slay!

    I think its up to folks to watch what they want
    ------------------------------------
    I'm no less "WOKE" cause I have seen Django and haven't seen 12 years a Slave. I'm not against the movie. Just saying I may or may not watch it at the movies.

  • harley_quinn2.0

    Lurk mode: ON

  • goat

    And Wuts good WUT!!

  • NYTimes#1Bestseller

    I'm sorry that happened to you.

  • http://batman-news.com Roderick2011

    Yeah I thought that the point of sex was to pleasure each other.

    As I stated during the Brock Turner case having sex with an unconscious person is akin to having sex with a dead body.

    Neither one of those should be appealing to any decent human being.

  • KcoolMuziq

    I knew this would end up coming back to haunt him. He was set to be the next Denzel. Now this! They'll NEVER let him live this down. Being a black actor. U can't let anything like this happen to U if U want success. We don't get the same second chances as actors like Robert Downey Jr.

    Look what happen to Isaiah Washington. He didn't do anything half as bad as this. But he is black listed for life..

  • Incog-knee-gress

    Exactly.

  • KIC came to slay!

    OFF TOPIC. I was waiting for you at the doe. We got QTNA for you!!

  • A.P. Millz-CT

    So, it means nothing this man r@ped someone who then committed suicide? Rape isn't some youthful mistake that should be buried just because you've become successful and make a movie that should be seen.

  • LeBrick James

    I was trying to give him the benefit of the doubt, but after reading the transcript of that conversation he had with her afterward, I have my serious doubts.

    The link is here for anybody who wants to take a look.
    https://pmcdeadline2.files.wordpress.com/2016/08/callexcerpt-wm.pdf

    Personally, I cant support him or his film.

  • MissyJ

    But what happens when EVERYONE is drunk? It usually ends up that the man is charged.. he while intoxicated should've known better, he while intoxicated should have been reasonable, he while intoxicated should've walked away.
    Women need to be responsible for themselves as well. It's not victim blaming or shaming. I don't want to be a victim so I prevent as best I can, from ANY CRIME not just rape (I lock my doors, I have a car alarm, I park in a well lit area, when I buy a new item I don't but the box out on display, I know where my child is etc etc)
    In this case, it appears Nate had a sex with a woman he'd slept with before while they were both intoxicated. His homie rode his coattails and was the sexual assaulter. His knowledge of homies activities I haven't been able to glean. If he knew, he's just as responsible.

  • MissHarlem

    Today anyone will get it.

  • Canary Red™

    BOOM?

  • Incog-knee-gress

    Is a Vietnam vet less of a vet bc they never saw Hamburger Hill? Bc they never saw Full Metal Jacket? Dont DO that to folks man. Hate when folks do that.

  • KIC came to slay!

    I understand that she probably was thinking that he was going to sweep it under the rug for another 20 years but dang give the man 5 mins he just shot a man. The preview with Becky bringing a lawyer to the church on Jacob!!!

  • hottlanta

    You should be looking at every SLAVE movie right now for the right to say that. If it wasn't for them you wouldn't be able to say what you want and don't want. First we were hunted by slave owners and their dogs and now we are being hunted by the police and their dogs. You need a ticket and a bucket of popcorn right now because things haven't changed.

  • A.P. Millz-CT

    An attitude like that is how our Sandusky's and Cosby's hide in plain sight and victimized people for years and decades. There is no conspiracy here for the hoteps who want to create one; rather, the real conspiracy is why so many willingly circle the wagons around a man accused of sexual violence against a woman....

  • MissHarlem

    I'm asking as soon as she steps in. Fck that

  • http://batman-news.com Roderick2011

    Yeah and then Whoopie made an a$$ of herself when she said it wasn't 'rape, rape'.

    The fool drugged a 13 y/o kid. Hell it was WORSE than regular rape and the mama should have been charged with at least child endangerment for leaving her child alone with a grown-a$$ed man.

  • hottlanta

    Wonder why Woody Allen is allowed to make movies when he was having sex with his adopted daughter who is now his wife.

  • SameoleJ

    I was born AWOKE!! Irked people my whole life questioning clearly dumb shit!! I can take the "others" bs, as I have no interest in their futures.......however mine own people I CANNOT!! Nope!! It is utterly unnerving that mine own folks will listen to the "others" versions of something and not question why it is being spewed. Why mine own folks will jump on any catch phrase band-fukking-wagon and run with it!!

    Black on Black crime: How many knew that it was originally said by a black person (Jessie and/or Al) to describe us killing one another, during a speech about uniting and uplifting our communities. The first time it was used was in 1975 to explain how the government turned a blind eye to the black on black crime and that is why offenders committed it so often, as there were no real repercussions. Of course, a phrase that was used to blast the government and officials and call them out about their clear plan to NOT police areas and allow the crimes to go on......simply because "they are killing their own and saving us the trouble", was then (like all other things) were appropriated!!

    I did not know this until an elderly FB poster commented on this and learned us all something that day.

    Let the lessons begin: @MissHarlem:disqus and @disqus_u2cDTETVQH:disqus.....SHALL WE?!

  • MissHarlem

    Facepalm. Courts said not guilty years ago before we knew who he was. Should of been brought to our attention when he first stepped on the scene. The timing is convenient to say the least but OK

  • JerseyMom

    Stfu cause this statement sounds like an admission!

  • LibraGirlonly

    He was cleared of those charges and sometime you can be charged for something you didn't do. He cleared his name so I will give him space to live his life. I said I will support the movie not the man.

  • https://www.etsy.com/shop/AMarieNaturals Lovezoe

    Ahem. ????

  • KIC came to slay!

    She's here... scroll down.

  • hottlanta

    Can't wait for UNDERGROUND to come back on.

  • MissyJ

    This man was acquitted of sexual violence against a woman.... the wagons can be circled. Facts entered into evidence and decided upon...
    Add to the fact it was 17 years ago and there have been no subsequent issues. Let folks rehabilitate

  • https://www.etsy.com/shop/AMarieNaturals Lovezoe

    I didn't see that! But I knew that was going to happen. Sexual harassment. She dirty and I knew it.

  • Howard Alum ?

    Thank you, I wanted to respond, but I'm tired of giving history lessons. People need to read, period. Don't settle for what public schools only want you to know. Again, thank you ??

  • Cole

    Will you go ahead and say that shit 1 more gan..... say it!!! I never did get that.....So because you possess that ability, I cannot rock with you Nate! #nottodaynotever
    #thisisnotateenagertakethecarandgetcaughtmoment
    #rapeisrape
    Just because a Pastor says sorry for molesting kids and moves to another church and NEVER violates again doesn't mean his ass ain't a molestor. Ok, you now have a family and that erases your sleazy spirit? #younasty

  • MissHarlem

    I hear that. I'm just barely working. Playing in the garden. Stop disappearing lol

  • Dee Moe

    This isn't a normal slave movie. Nat Turner was just as important as Harriott Tubman. They promote her more because Nat took the more violent approach after his wife and daughter were rapped. We can't just say we wont support slave movies without knowing the truth. Nat, Marcus Garvey, James Baldwin, Fred Hampton, Shirley Chism and other are names the masses want to suppress.

  • BKLYNS MAMA

    right....something is fishy....somebody dont want BLACK folk to see this movis about US being OPPRESSED..we just might get MAD...and UNITE.....thinking who dem SOMBODIES might be.....

  • Trey

    he was not famous like that....this always happens

  • A.P. Millz-CT

    Someone mentioned how he's doing a movie about a slave revolt that happened dayum near 200 years ago, but mentions how the rape allegations are in the past and he doesn't wish to discuss them."

    According to court documents, Parker and the alleged victim met for a date Aug. 20 at the Silver Screen Bar, then went to his apartment, where the assaults took place. The victim told police about the alleged incident on Oct. 13 after she had several arguments with Parker on the telephone.
    On Oct. 15, police wiretapped a conversation between the victim and Parker, who allegedly told her that Celestin, his roommate, also had s*x with her that night...

    Nate is just as guilty as the friend, maybe worse in a sense knowing that Parker met her first then brought her back to his place where the situation occurred -seems like a set up and textbook mentality of gang rapists.

  • Howard Alum ?

    And used as breeders...smh, but they want us to forget...NEVER!

  • LibraGirlonly

    Lawd have mercy! The man cleared his name and wasn't convicted of a crime. What do you expect us to do go dig the woman up to have another trial?

  • mainey

    agreed. men and women need to watch themselves. that's why in my comment I didn't say men or women I used person to let folks know it is everyone's responsibility. There is usually an innocent bystander who see's suspect behavior and should intervene. I wasn't there and I don't know the facts, but I do know consent and what constitutes consent is something that is not taught, even if you have a prior sexual relationship with that person you need a sober yes every time.

  • MissyJ

    1) Acquitted 2) double digit years ago 3) yes crimes can be youthful mistakes, indiscretions, and regrets. If you do not repeat them, you deserve absolution and a second chance

  • http://www.keenready.com KeenReady.COM ?

    Chile and coming from a white woman at that...for all we know she cried rape because he DIDN'T give her the BBD...gtfoh...

  • A.P. Millz-CT

    "It was her fault for "putting herself in that situation." "

    That is an almost exact quote of what Nate Parker said to her in the taped phone conversation. He said she put herself in that position and he feels he did nothing wrong.

    I too wish the man who declined the invitation to join in would have reported the gang rape. He testified that she was unconscious, so he did know that the "four people at once " was not consensual.

  • JJ

    Very true which why you shouldn't get plastered drunk or high because you lose your best sense but again if you're with a group you truly trust someone's going to speak up. If you're just with one or two especially opposite sex then you're at their mercy.

  • SG

    Im sorry that happened to you! $#it like this wounds people to the depths of their soul.

  • ShelleDC

    Okay .. I don't understand how people keep saying he was proved innocent in a court of law so he didn't do it. THIS is why rape victims don't come forward. Society constantly make them feel like they deserved to be raped. You shouldn't have worn what you had on, you shouldn't have been drinking. Let's be honest there is rape couture on a lot of college campuses. Let's get the facts here. The young lady was drunk and had passed out. So that means she can't recollect most of what happened (In a court of law that's a strike against her because she really doesn't know every detail), this leaves the rape kit as her only hope in the case. If Nate used a condom then there wouldn't be any sperm from him in her body, there for it's his word against hers (but remember she can't recollect). If the friend was convicted then there where signs of rape, and his sperm was found. The conviction was later over turned on appeal .. I kind of want to know why. Did she no longer want to testify, was she being bullied at school, or called a whore?

    In his long explanation, you can see there is some form of guilt. So he did something he knew he shouldn't have. It could even be that he did do it, and just can't fully admit to himself that he did.

  • hottlanta

    They keep us outta the history books on PURPOSE. Folks ain't gonna go see it. Like Roland said, not that black movie I am looking for something else. I see all of the black movies that come out, except stupid Steve Harvey Wayan stuff and Soul Plane.

  • KIC came to slay!

    They released it yesterday on the FB page and OWN app. I'm thinking wrongful termination. There is also a preview of Noah and GiGi sitting on floor drinking.

  • A.P. Millz-CT

    Whew I read about the details, I was appalled more at the stalking an harassment than I was the rape. Sexual assault on campus can sometimes be a murky thing. Being at PSU, I know how out of control the drinking and partying gets. But the harassment was deliberate and despicable, coordinated and insidious. It cannot be chalked up to misread cues, drunken ignorance, youth and/or immaturity. That speaks to character. That's that the problem I have. People make mistakes yes. The rape was a mistake. But the rest of the actions had too much thought in it.

    This man has no remorse. There was no moment where they realized they did something wrong because you only stalk and harass the victim to scare them into silence... F*** Nate Parker

  • LeBrick James

    OJ was found "not guilty" too... but he's still a murderer in my book. Always will be.

    "Not guilty" is not the same as "innocent" as far as I'm concerned.

  • Blak

    Why is it that every black producer/director that is involved in a slave movie is married to a white woman?

  • LibraGirlonly

    Why did she go back to a strangers place ? So many questions and the woman is gone so she can't tell her side. Nate was cleared of all charges and I would think if they had any credible evidence his BLACK arse would have been locked up. The movie is not about Nate once again.

  • <—Doesn'tTalkToStrangers

    This film needs to be seen, so that's how I feel about that.... ??????

  • SameoleJ

    I AIN'T SOME FUKKING ONE and I AIN'T THE ONE TUH DAY!! @ me next time!

    He was acquitted of the charges that happened almost 20 years ago, or did you conveniently skim over that part of the write up?IF you did, I can understand......sike no I can't!!

    Read what the hell you just copy and pasted: The victim told police about the alleged incident on Oct. 13 after she had several arguments with Parker on the telephone.

    When the hell does a victim have almost 2 months of arguments with the person who assaulted them? Let me answer (AS A VICTIM OF THIS KIND OF CRIME) NEVER!! NOT NARY A TIME!! NOPE!! What you arguing with a man who assaulted you about? And then after 2 months of arguing.....now he raped you?! That is why he was found innocent and why his friend had the charges dropped later!!

  • MissHarlem

    When I tell you I got tears of joy and pride ?????? gotdamn. You the real MVP

  • Readytochokemothernatureonout

    All I know rape is awful. Off topic that big arse raccoon I saw in the kitchen was godawful too, and I'm ready to move Asap..have a good day beautiful roses.

  • BKLYNS MAMA

    Some FOLKS do a good job of DIVIDING us!!! Yall BLACKS just might learn something and UNITE....
    I smell a set up like Bill Cosby...when they want to discredit you...well, you already know!

  • <—Doesn'tTalkToStrangers

    In the kitchen?! ??

  • LeBrick James

    Bill Cosby set himself up by his own actions.

  • SameoleJ

    Could he have meant her consenting to a train and then being offended that he didn't want to be bothered with her afterwards? That comment can mean a whole lot of different things.

  • A.P. Millz-CT

    And, this attitude is why the Bill Cosby's and Sandusky's were able to get away with their crimes for some many years and decades..

  • goat

    I'll try not to disappear, as much..lol You know I be in n out around here. But I'll come check on you.

  • Incog-knee-gress

    How the fukk he get in there? *wails*

  • KIC came to slay!

    I hear crickets....

  • BKLYNS MAMA

    So they say....

  • A.P. Millz-CT

    Oh, so it's the victims fault? Wow.. All this coming from women?? :(

  • LibraGirlonly

    I don't know what she did or he did but I do know that I will support this movie about the Nat Turner slave revolt that has nothing to do with Nat the man.

  • MissyJ

    Feelings of guilt or remorse is not an indication of actual guilt. He might feel guilty just from the simple fact that he brought this woman into his world which led to this whole incident. It doesn't mean he did anything wrong.
    The courts don't always get it right, and that is when a victim has to take their recovery into their own hands. A person in jail doesn't always make a victim feel better either.

  • A.P. Millz-CT

    Oh, so b/c she was white she wasn't raped? Wow..

  • SameoleJ

    If I didn't have to actually work, I could go on for days with this!! They got me riled up today!!

  • Readytochokemothernatureonout

    Yes we heard something in the walls and then he appeared. Got in through the roof and bit his arse through a small storage closet. We haven't slept in 2 days

  • KIC came to slay!

    What do you expect us to do go dig the woman up to have another trial?
    --------------------------------
    Go to the KONA......but I'm going with you.

  • SummerBaby

    ......

  • Nina Ross

    While they give pedophile Roman Polanski Oscars as he runs from the law...the devil is a liar

  • KenHay

    I agree.
    I've been in a similar situation, too.

  • Readytochokemothernatureonout

    The roof the bastard even knocked my dish loose.

  • Jusstlookn To Stay Woke

    Which why Lisa B and Keisha so messed up in the head. My thoughts.

  • Incog-knee-gress

    Im trying to figure out STILL what this man past from 17 years ago, got to do with a movie on Nat Turner? STILL. Im riled up too.

  • Wuts got Petty Davis Eyes..

    GOAT!! Hey shugah..Hows everythang!!!

  • Jusstlookn To Stay Woke

    What, oh my gawd. You left door open, s window. Jeez sis.

    It didnt give birth did it?

  • Wuts got Petty Davis Eyes..

    Preach!!

  • Jusstlookn To Stay Woke

    She looks slow right here.

  • MissyJ

    I had squirrels do that at my house

  • Incog-knee-gress

    A rude ass fukka aint he?

  • ShelleDC

    Not saying he did, not saying he didn't. It's just the fact that there are people actually taking his side. Like the courts don't get it wrong. Didn't say he needed to go to jail either. I will still watch the movie, just like I still watch the Cosby show. But as a victim, it gets under my skin when people automatically take sides with out given the whole and truthful story, or come up with some conspiracy crap.

  • Nina Ross

    He needs to speed up the release date...also white people are historical LIARS & no one should believe anything they say.

  • SameoleJ

    FUKK Cosby and Sandusky.......we are talking about Nat!! And I am a victim of this kind of crime, and it happened from 11-13 years of age, so I am telling you from experience NOT SOME TEXTBOOK, I heard it on the news shit!! We are not having 2 months of arguments with the person who assaulted us!!

    What the hell were they arguing about? You raped me PERIOD!!

  • Incog-knee-gress

    It didnt give birth did it?
    ^^^^^^^^^^^
    *ctfu*

  • KIC came to slay!

    No one is saying it's the woman fault. what we are saying is there are too many instances in history where Black men have been crucified, killed Emmitt Till and put in jail and the key thrown away Brian Banks for a woman to later admit she lied. You can't get upset that some women aren't just jumping on every bandwagon of the every woman accusing someone of sexual assault and rape. Women lie every day.

  • Readytochokemothernatureonout

    We don't know and expert is coming today. The maintenance man just set traps yesterday. The roof is being repaired, that's how it got in.

  • Blaque Mahogany

    Couple of points:

    1) HER version of the story is that she was drunk and passed out. This obviously was not proven in court because he claimed that the sex was consensual. It is a matter of law that incapacitated (drunk or on drugs) people cannot consent to sex. So maybe she was, maybe she wasn't.

    2) Just because he was convicted, it doesn't mean that there were signs of rape. Cases are not re-tried on appeal. The judge can only review evidence that was presented at the initial trial. Most appeals hinge on improper evidence, etc. So, her attendance is a moot point.

    3) I personally want to know her race. A certain demographic has a history of sleeping with people and then yelling rape afterwards. And from his and the other guy's testimony, it was consensual, which would imply she slept with TWO men back to back. I'm just saying black and brown people have a history of being killed and incarcerated when certain women get caught or regret their activities and want to yell rape.

  • Readytochokemothernatureonout

    Yes he is

  • goat

    Everything is swangin!! How are you doing?

  • LeBrick James

    Personally, I can miss this movie and be OK. I dont feel I'll be missing that much. As a father of a young daughter sexual assault is a real important topic in my mind, so this story is a big deal to me.
    There's just too much shadiness surrounding this guy...his explanations, the way he sounded on that transcript of that phone call afterward and the woman's suicide years later. This all just has a bad smell to it. I'm not supporting him or his movie. Just wouldn't feel right to me.

  • LibraGirlonly

    Stop it. No one is saying that rape is ok.

  • Readytochokemothernatureonout

    Smh I saw that big arse tail grabbed Ju and ran like Usain up the stairs.

  • Incog-knee-gress

    And those crazy asses are all skittish and just crazy. We had some squirrels get in the YWCA once when I worked there many moons ago. During a bridal shower. Listen.

  • SingleGalCrazyWorld

    I read in the statement that he was the "train conductor". He had sex with her before and I guess he thought it would be cool to add a friend while she was passed out? And on top of that him and his friend harassed this poor girl and made her name public by hiring a private investigator leading to her dropping out of school. Thats predatory and idc if he was 19 he knew right from wrong. Another friend that knew what was going on walked out the room while it was taking place. This movie or any additional movie he is in will not get seen by me.

  • Nina Ross

    heard it had to do with drugs, who knows Kris Jenner was her bff

  • A.P. Millz-CT

    Sameole J :( This happened to me as well.. But, I never told. I won't get into why, but this hits my heart. I don't know why she waited. But, I will not judge her for what made her wait to say anything. She was haunted (as I am everyday) this is why she took her life.

  • Readytochokemothernatureonout

    Lol I read they do but this fool was just as scared as us. I mean he was right by Ju almost but went the opposite direction which gave me time to see and flee.

  • Blaque Mahogany

    I'm halfway through the transcript and I'm trying to figure out why you think he is guilty... I'mma keep reading though.

  • SameoleJ

    Just like Fukking Sway these folks AIN'T GOT THE ANSWERS....cause there is none!! Nat Turner revolted.....did he rape some white woman on the way? Tell us how the ACTOR'S past crime, of which he was acquitted, has anything to do with Nat? Nat is probably in heaven like....Da heck that got to do with me?

    And the "another slave" movie rhetoric has my blood boiling......then don't take y'all shucking and jiving azz to see it then!! Stay stupid and in the dark and accepting what is fed to you! And BTW...that "not another slave movie" line was fed to ya azzes too......and you too dumb to realize it!!

    Damn shame folks got me wanting to actually do some work!!

  • KcoolMuziq

    I actually attended a private screening of that this past Monday. HIGHLY recommended..It's called "Hidden Figures"..

  • Nina Ross

    Hollywood is run by pedophiles...did you see X-men? Director Bryan Singer known predator, etc, etc

  • LeBrick James

    I'm right with you. I'm not putting a penny of my money into his pockets, directly or indirectly.

    As a matter of fact, I wouldnt even see his movie for free.

  • SummerBaby

    I hate squirrels sew much. I've hated them every since National Lampoons Christmas movie when they jumped out the Christmas tree.

  • ShadesofEMPRESS

    I'm sorry that happened to you.

  • Brownie

    My apologizes, Sis. ?

  • LibraGirlonly

    That's why I go searching for our history for myself and from what I found out I wouldn't teach me about the great things iur people did either. That would mean the end for them. Wink

  • KcoolMuziq

    Octavia Spencer...Cookie-Taraji Henson..

  • SingleGalCrazyWorld

    Nope didn't see X-men. I dont watch Mark Wahlberg movies either.

  • SameoleJ

    What was she haunted by? This? Or some other things?! Just because I am a victim, I can't and won't jump on the bandwagon of every "victim"< as too many times it has been found that they are not. If he was acquitted, I have to respect that. But I also have to separate the important story that is being told from the past of the man who is telling it.

  • Nina Ross

    Haiti Revolution they hate as well

  • LibraGirlonly

    Yessss just like the title Hidden Colors.

  • Sexy CJ

    Hollywood’s latest Slave film “The Birth of a Nation” is a fictional retelling of the Nat Turner Rebellion in which slaves rose up against their white oppressors.

    But sleazy Hollywood insiders are on a mission to torpedo the slave film du jour by dragging down its star, writer and director Nate Parker........

  • starbright9449

    I'm sick and tide of all of these slave movies. Make a movie about the blacks in Africa who were kings and queens, all of the royal and not so royal blacks and Africa, the place that was filled with more gold than anywhere else on earth. Yes, make a movie about the richest king whoever lived and yes, he was a BLACK man. He even made it into Arab and white history cause they couldn't help but acknowledge him...not that we need acknowledgement from other races but y'all get what I'm trying to say. Africa was the richest place on earth and it was ruled by BLACKS!!

  • Incog-knee-gress

    I saw a girl fukked UP by a squirrel once on a field trip. We were at a big park here, and eating lunch. It was after her sandwich and clawed her in the face etc. She had to get the rabies shot regimen. After that? I do NOT fux with em.

  • ShadesofEMPRESS

    I have no more respect for Nate. It is all gone. It sickens me how these men do stuff to women and get off. His wife is yuck for wanting a rapist. Only a white woman because I don't see a black woman wanting that. He better pray nothing happens to his daughters. Smh!

  • MissHarlem

    ? all I ask

  • Sexy CJ

    *********

  • SummerBaby

    I'm right with you. I get clowned all the time for it & don't even care.

  • MsSincerity

    I totally get why people are saying "another slave movie". They've been pumping them out like water, back to back and they keep showing us in an inferior state and they REFUSE to show the beauty and the power of our history as well. Our history did not begin with slavery, but they want to keep you focused on that. To see a reenactment of the way that your people were treated is understandably too much for some folks. Maybe it wouldn't be so hard to watch if black people were not still being treated like s - h - i - t to this day, over 400 years later. But I will watch this for sure. Anything about a revolt, I am here for it. Clearly beige people are not, that's why they're bringing up his past. Anywho, It's extremely important for every black person to see what went down back then (even though they left out a lot), but not wanting to see slave movie after slave movie does not make you any less aware, and it doesn't mean that you're trying to distance yourself from the past, you just simply don't want to see it.

  • ShelleDC

    Not HER version since she is deceased, but her brothers version of HER story. She could have just stated she was drunk. Again my point being that there are people on this thread, automatically taking his side. The justice system has gotten it wrong before. I'm not taking anyone's side, but as a victim this get's under my skin.

    Will I still see his movie, yes. Just like I still watch the Cosby show.

    What does her color have to do with it? I have a black friend on the sex offenders list, because a Black girl accused his two friends of RAPE. No rape kit was done, because she accused them of rape two weeks later, after it had gotten around that she let them run a train on her and her parents found out.

    So evidence and the law, can be thrown out of the window as well in some cases.

  • LibraGirlonly

    Yep, my sons teacher sent her lesson plan my mail. She wants to discuss Greek literature and it's a good thing that I know the Greeks took Ancient Kemets history. So I can let my son no the real deal.

  • Sexy CJ

    I Will B Watching This Essential Part Of Our History.......

  • Blaque Mahogany

    Soooo I went and read the transcript and I invite everyone to read it. She clearly went home with Nate, the other dude and a driver. They had been drinking. She had sex with Nate and the other dude. Woke up the next day and had sex with Nate again. During the call she said that she couldn't remember how many people she had sex with (doesn't mean rape) and asked Nate if she had sex with the driver as well. She said that she was pregnant and that she didn't know whose it was. She clearly wanted it to be Nates. He was like nah, I used a condom. She was like, not that morning. Then she said she didn't want to tell her baby that she got drunk and (willingly) had sex with a whole bunch of dudes and didn't know who the dad was. She said she wanted to go to counseling because she didn't believe in abortion.

    Soooo--- here's what I think happened. Like I said below. She was drinking. Had sex with them willingly. Couldn't remember anything. Told her parent she was pregnant. Told them she was soooo drunk and she passed out and the big black scary dude and his friend had sex with her. And VOILA---RAPE.

  • SameoleJ

    And that is why "They" are pumping out the inferior slave, roll over for massa, we jus gona accept our fate movies, so ANY and ALL "slave movies" become redundant to us and we STOP being interested in them.

    But at least you are AWOKE enough to see that this is NOT like some of the others!!

  • A.P. Millz-CT

    I argue that rapists are poor predators because they can't hide their behavior. That's why they surround themselves with either the silent (won't say anything) or the encouraging ("Look at what that hoe is wearing; "she liked it- if she didn't, she would of told you to stop.")

    Here's my issue with this guy (Nate)....he says he won't play a gays man because it emasculates black men....but he is married to a white woman. ..which is cool...but how hotep can you be with a white woman on your arm...when he was called out he says it who he fell in love with, yet gays aren't masculine because of who they fall in love with...he wants me to be cool with his hotep machinations while he sleeping with Brittany. ..yet my brother can't be a man if he sleep with Tyrone? ..that ain't right. .. I don't know, but I will wait until this movie is released on DVD or regular tv.

  • Brownie

    I think the others love them. Its a treat to them. I'm tired of them. How about a "regular" movie similar to When the Bough Breaks or something BEFORE slavery? It might not be a box office hit initially but in time it can happen. These slave movies/ series need to stop.

  • LibraGirlonly

    Thank you.

  • THE OLDER SISTAH

    I read it and just assumed my old azz reading comprehension skills were off. I'm not saying he is innocent, nor am I claiming he is guilty, I just don't get an admission of guilt from this transcript. IMO

  • Incog-knee-gress

    I was waiting on you to finish reading it before I said anything.

    Great synopsis.

    I agree and cosign.

    Going to find food. Its lunch time.

  • SameoleJ

    And argued with Nate fron AUGUST to OCTOBER!! Then went to the police!! More than likely after the other guy said, "Naw, it ain't mine either!!"

    almost 2 months of arguing......for why?!

  • MsSincerity

    Thank You!

  • Blaque Mahogany

    Race is important from a historical context. History is important. Like I said, yt women have historically accused black men of raping them after they have willingly had sex with them. Or in some instances when there was no rape, they just simply started yelling rape because they felt uncomfortable. THAT is why race is important.

  • felinelurker

    I was just reading RG III is in the process of getting a divorce...

  • Cricket404

    3 guys and a girl. #1 guy puts his cock in unconscious girl, asks #2 guy if he wants to do the same, #2 he does without a condom. #1 guy asks #3 guy to join in, he refuses and leaves. Guy #3 testifies against #1 and #2. Because #1 had a previous sexual relationship and initial sexual contact was consensual he was exonerated while #2 was sentenced. #1 wrote the movie with #2 and the girl kills herself in the end. Tragic.

  • MzFutureLCSW

    If you are drunk, you can not consent to sex. You are not in your right mind, at that point. Therefore, it is rape.

  • Phillybruh

    I hope Donald Trump catches you two first when he's elected!

  • Incog-knee-gress

    #1 wrote the movie with #2 and the girl kills herself in the end.
    ^^^^^^^^^^^^
    Not in the end. The girl been dead since 2012. Still tragic tho.

  • felinelurker

    Technically, that is true...

  • LibraGirlonly

    I'm just sayin what do they want us to do? Not go see the movie? Crucify Nate Parker? None of those choices make any sense to me seeing that I don't know what really happened. He cleared his name and tried to move on but I'm sure thay want us to put bricks on his back so he can fall. NOT!!!

  • Cole

    Once you sexually violate someone you should FOREVER be reminded of your wrongdoing! #FOREVER it has been stated that the victims suffer for life.... #andsoshalltheperpetrator

  • SameoleJ

    And willingly placed the shackles on themselves!!

  • Blaque Mahogany

    I said that she was drinking. Not that she was drunk. Anyone that goes to a bar, drinks and then goes home with someone and has sex with them can then say... "I was drinking. That was rape." Uh no. Incapacitated (drunk) not drinking. Not the same at all.

  • Brownie

    I just wish they told the full story. How men, women, and children were raped, tortured, etc. A lot of what I seen are the same stories repeated...with a twist. We should NEVER forget or feel ashamed of our culture.

  • MzFutureLCSW

    No, it is not the same but if she woke up and did not recall who she had sex with, she was drunk and raped.

  • LeBrick James

    I'm with you on that.. A lot of times, people always feel the need to defend the brotha in these situations.

    But the truth is, sometimes the brotha did some grimy dirt, and doesnt need defending.

  • MissHarlem

    Nat Turner isn't another slave movie

  • https://www.etsy.com/shop/AMarieNaturals Lovezoe

    So whose baby is it?

  • RICHIE_RICH

    He has a good face to sit on!!!!

  • Phillybruh

    But the courts already said he didn't do it!

  • SameoleJ

    No one said you were more or less woke, just asked you if you saw 12 Years as it was a different story than Django and told the story they didn't want us to hear. I love my old movies like Chaka Zulu, etc. , that doesn't make me more "WOKE", it just means I have been exposed to the different stories.

  • hottlanta

    I see some black folks round here everyday yesa massa in real life. Nothing has changed.

  • Genia

    you might as well stick you dick in a warm apple pie...

  • Blaque Mahogany

    OHHHH and re the drinking. He even says to her on the call something along the lines of, "It is one thing to say that I was drinking and another thing to say that you were drunk and passed out and I had sex with you. That is not what happened". He tells her that she may not remember now, and that is fine, but that she was clearly conscious. That she gave head and they had full conversations. He even reiterated that they were all drinking and that there was nothing about her behavior that indicated she was drunk. He said she said she wanted to go home with him!

    I can't stand a rapists. And yeah rape victims are often bashed by society, BUT to ME, this is not an example of that. This is a young girl, who partied, and screwed a couple of dudes. Ended up pregnant and decided to go the rape route because that was a better justification. Sad that she is dead but it's not that man's fault.

  • LeBrick James

    Yes, we know. Nobody is disputing that.

    OJ got found not guilty too, but people still have their own opinions about that, dont they?

  • <—Doesn'tTalkToStrangers

    The mailmans, who knows?! You don't just turn into a loose woman IMB. ??

  • LibraGirlonly

    Like a lot of white girls do. Let's face it people.

  • SameoleJ

    You hungry? I am!!

  • MissHarlem

    The ignorance and uneducated makes my head hurt. I need a new post. Fools in here don't even know who Nat Turner is ??? they think it's another slave movie. Can't see the forest from the trees ass ninjas ?

  • Blaque Mahogany

    It was probably the room mates because she said that Nate busted her on back. So he clearly pulled out... I mean there is the PRE but it was probably someone elses. Nate even asked her if she had been with anyone else since that night.

  • LibraGirlonly

    So if you are all drunk then I guess all three could have cried rape right.

  • Blaque Mahogany

    Well according to her THAT was her first time. She normally only had sex with people she was in relationships with. It's possible but...

  • <—Doesn'tTalkToStrangers

    Ike Turners brother?!? ???

  • LibraGirlonly

    Did you read the transcript?

  • Ni Ni

    I won't ever support this coon. I can read about Nat. Sounds like he was arrogant, thinking he was untouchable and this would be forgotten about since he married "in".

  • MissHarlem

    Nah but fck it let's eat

  • Blaque Mahogany

    Negative. She could have drunk more after they had sex, no? She could have done drugs after they had sex, no?

  • Blaque Mahogany

    Exactly.

  • ShelleDC

    Good Point.

  • Blaque Mahogany

    Said this below.

  • AG

    Thank you. Everyone doesn't heal the same way. Rape is so disgusting and violent.....I feel for her and her family. I have a cousin that is now 60, she's been a recluse as the result of her rape that happened when she was 18. There is no timetable, or "proper" reaction after experiencing trauma.

  • B.Sweet is Savage

    You my dear aren't shit.

  • LibraGirlonly

    No she should have made better choices. You can't go home with a stranger have sex with them and the next day say ohhh how many? Was this something she did in a regular basis? Why ask how many if you are to drunk to remember ?

  • Phillybruh

    I often find the first person to throw the word coon out is usually the biggest one in the room. I bet your going to get all the becky's lunch right now aren' you!

  • SameoleJ

    We might as well....cause they are in here making me cuss!! See you after lunch and in the next post!!

  • <—Doesn'tTalkToStrangers

    So drunk or tipsy folks shouldn't be bedding each other?

    How do we regulate this?
    What type of control?
    ???

  • Str8tUpMenace

    ^^^^^^^THIS!!!!

  • Miany

    that's sad

  • ShelleDC

    The courts accused a guy I know and it's on paper he wasn't there. He's still on the Sex offenders list. My point, the justice system get's it wrong all the time. Look at all those men behind bars, that are now being released because after years they are being found guilty. Or the fact that Zimmerman was found innocent of Murder. Again not saying Nate is guilty, just don't understand how people take sides when they have no real clue.

  • Ni Ni

    I bet you're going to a GED class to learn how to spell ?.

  • https://www.etsy.com/shop/AMarieNaturals Lovezoe

    New post

  • MissHarlem

    ???

  • Phillybruh

    Don't f*Ck up those lunch orders!!!

  • QTNA brought to you by KIC!

    Sadly, I know..

  • <—Doesn'tTalkToStrangers

    Cousin?!?! ????

  • Ni Ni

    Pass that GED!

  • QTNA brought to you by KIC!

    I wasn't talking about you. I @ people. I was talking about the tone of the post as a whole.

  • QTNA brought to you by KIC!

    All of this!!!

  • LibraGirlonly

    You mean Nate?

  • MissyJ

    Keisha stopped working with the man when she was 13... she's good. And when did she get messed up? cause she got a deadbeat baby daddy. Her life has been quite normal and productive actually

  • Branch Davidian

    This bitch should have been a Kardashian..

  • Phillybruh

    LOL..

  • nucynu25

    Am reading the comments like these idiots really dont know this was a rebellion ...that's why am just lurking ????

  • <—Doesn'tTalkToStrangers

    Maybe she'on remember.?
    She might not have said anything IF she hadn't gotten pregnant ?

  • B.Sweet is Savage

    Stop being mean.

  • <—Doesn'tTalkToStrangers

    Dew yew have this under control OR do we need to dew some Rose research for yew???

  • Phillybruh

    I've read the transcripts, I don't think they got it wrong and when they did in this case with the other guy they corrected it. Sometimes a victim just isn't the one screaming rape but the one accused which its sounds like this in this case. The clues are in the transcripts, the clues are the actions of the young lady after the alleged rape. She was white, she had that going for her.

  • Guess Who

    ...That's his wife?

  • Jahnée Gill Mr.Eddie Murphy

    Oh his wife's white? Bye Nate! I don't support negros with white spouse's. Ya wife white and you have the audacity to play Nat Turner and be an alleged rapist? Piss off ninja!

  • jeniefrumdabloc™

    I will be seeing this .....?? I remember an old class mate did a presentation on Natt.... Made me research him..... I will be seeing this ??

  • SG

    I read that he was having sex with her and noticed the other two individuals watching. He invited them in. The roommate chose to have sex with her after NP was done. The other guy testified that he left because it didn't seem right.

  • Has1

    So at first, I'm all "People make mistakes, esp as teenagers" b/c we all do. But the co-writer of this movie is Nate Parker's friend, who WAS charged with her rape and did 6 months in jail. Sorry, but why/how can you maintain a friendship with someone who raped that girl if you truly felt remorse (unless....) And WHYYYYY would they think about embarking on Hollywood business ventures knowing the info about what happened was only an Internet search away? Add to that they were both athletes at Penn State---which obviously puts their athletic programs above the safety of women and children (read: Jerry Sandusky)....The more I read about their case, the more I'm giving them the side eye.....

  • http://www.pureromance.com LA

    Me too. Shit scary as hell.. They gone now, called the exterminator, they set up traps took two weeks to catch them.. They started in the roof then came down between the first and second floor.. uggh, glad its over..

  • http://www.keenready.com KeenReady.COM ?

    Nope but history shows...since obviously you don't know...white biitches lie because they're embarrassed that the truth came out that they slept with a Black man and are whores...

  • http://www.pureromance.com LA

    Lucky you!!! We the tenants had to pay for the extermination when we had squirrles in the roof..

  • Miany

    where did u read all of this? I want to see.. please either recap or share link.

  • Torae

    Welp there goes his "career"

  • nucynu25

    Let me go upstairs ..a lot of yall just not logical. .I understand having a diff POV but some of y'all dont know facts from opinions.

  • Sexy CJ

    Lol....What U Say....U Ran "Gold Status".....huh?...

  • LeBrick James

    I'm a free-thinking black man, and I'm not always going to have the opinion on certain things that people think a brotha is "supposed" to have.

    So I know my opinions on these blogs will ruffle some feathers. Nothing new there.

  • A.P. Millz-CT

    Get a grip! Read the transcript!

  • Renee Bee

    Sounds like a young Junior Gong.

  • Unita Lucinda “Lucy” Freebush

    What is the definition of drunk in THIS case?

    I can't TOTALLY agree with this. Many kids got here from consensual sex after a night of drinking...Pink Panties...at a birthday celebration. ?

    There are legal levels to "intoxication". In some states you can be declared legally drunk after a drink based upon BAC. Clearly, if you are blacked out, by your lonesome and someone invites themself to you then that is a different story. But, if one is coordinating, arranging, and directing...and coming back for round 5, hours after the alcohol has worn off then, honestly, I may have to take a second look at ALL the information, not a portion.

  • SG

    I read something that said he and the roommate stated that she wasn't moving her arms or legs, nothing. The prosecution said that was indicative of her being unconscious. Then he and the roommate said she pulled at the roommate's penis and began to perform oral sex. Which is it?

  • Arii

    So if you get drunk at the club, go home with a dude, take off your clothes and have sex with your eyes wide open, fully moving and giving it back...he raped you? So if I go out to eat with my husband and get drunk...he raped me? He should say NO until he can get some sober coochie? For real? I can see it if you are passed out, but if you are a grown woman reaching for dycks and laying on your back saying, "Harder harder," you aint being raped. You just got drunk, consented to drunk sex, and now you regret it.

  • LibraGirlonly

    They are enslaved in the mind chile.

  • LibraGirlonly

    Thats sad and you will surely miss out on a wonderful story.

  • Incog-knee-gress

    Hate that word. Despise it. Bc its often times used out of context

  • MISSMEWITDATBULL

    Agreed. I scrolled through the comments, and except for a handful of real ones, I'm inclined to think a bunch of kids are in here... Adults can not be this illogical.

  • Unita Lucinda “Lucy” Freebush

    You cooking r'coon? Don't be like my neighbor and get it from the road. ?

  • Jahnée Gill Mr.Eddie Murphy

    Why are all the black historic movies filled with black people with white spouses? Don't they feel awkward playing those roles then going to bed with the decedent's of massa later? I can't see myself playing a character in roots then going to bed with white man afterwards.

  • LibraGirlonly

    The film is not about Nate Parker. Please use good critical thinking logic.

  • Unita Lucinda “Lucy” Freebush

    ???

  • Incog-knee-gress

    What about after she woke up? She had sex then too.

  • Unita Lucinda “Lucy” Freebush

    Those rabies shots come in series and ain't nothing pretty.

  • http://www.keenready.com KeenReady.COM ?

    Yup beyond sick...

    Funny thing is I asked a Mexican woman that question...how would you feel if Cesar Chavez was sleeping with the enemy? She said she wouldn't have a problem with it...I'm like OKAY...

  • Renee26

    He LOOKS like the abusive type...something is off in his eyes to me... his wife is unattractive (probably easy to control)

  • LibraGirlonly

    I'm calling it bullshet. Help them divide us. Go head.

  • Orchidjones-PETTY INSTIGATOR

    I'm about to write a book on this, so sorry for the long response... but I tread lightly with my thoughts on stories as these. I too know of a person I went to school with, one was doing things my parents didn't allow me. My mother had me in so many activities to keep me occupied and I was pi$$ed behind it, but in hindsight i see why...To God be the glory. She scared me into thinking if i even dreampt of getting pregnant, she would come in my dreams and kill my azz.

    One friend was getting high/drunk with a group fellas and they gang raped her, she ended up pregnant (Abortion later) as we were all minors at the time, the other friend was trying to help, but was being held back by one guy that warned her if she try and help, they would get her too.

    The reason why I was angry about it (later in life) is because both were my friends and never warned me about it, but I would be around these same guys, inviting them to the parties I had, hanging out, etc. I distinctly remember a time I was having a party and 2 of the guys came, and everything became awkward and quiet, but I was a happy kid trying to mingle, then those two girls left and stopped speaking to me...couldn't figure that out. (Knowing now what I didn't know then...) I felt they left me open for the same result. I don't know if it was hate or jealousy because of what my parents did for me or if I was a corny square, but I still for the life of me cannot figure out all through school and our friendship, why I wasn't warned!

    We were bigger and closer than embarrassment so i thought. Although I was never one to get high or drunk, it was still always in this a group men who were like brothers to me... ratio: 12 vs 1-2 that I hung with and felt comfortable around, unbeknownst to me these same monsters raped her, one by one while the other girl had to stand by helplessly to watch.

    So why not tell me what happen, all to finally reveal 2 different versions of a story of what happened 10 years later when i became a mother. I got a call out of the blue telling me what took place that night. Each person blaming the other. I cried, I was angry and elated at the same time because someone prayed for me each and every time I left to go hang with this crew.

    November 2016 will be the 25th year since the incident was told to me, and 35+ years since the incident happened. I don't know how I feel- bothered I guess. Like if i could have been there and maybe saved her. It is such a burden to carry I am sure for the both of these women as I am sure it haunted the woman who killed herself in the story.

    I still talk to these women but they are estranged. The only good thing I can say is that it taught me to speak to my sons about rape and a girl saying no, and just because the scene is pretty don't mean you have to visit and lay a blanket on it for a picnic. Teens do stupid things, but life happens in the midst of it that can haunt you for the rest of your life. I am hoping there is forgiveness somewhere in these incidents but you have to talk about it and not sweep it under the rug. I give credit to Parker by speaking out, that is the least he could do.

  • LeBrick James

    The thins is, if a bunch of white dudes did this to a sista in a college dorm, most of us would be screaming to the high heavens. But because the [alleged] perpetrator is black, a lot of "us" want to just automatically defend the brotha.
    I've never thought that way, and ever will. I cant just automatically look at everything through a racial prism.

  • Unita Lucinda “Lucy” Freebush

    I hear you, but I'm hearing two different things at the same time. "It's just the fact that people are taking his side...But as a victim, it gets under my skin when people automatically take sides with out given the whole and truthful story, or come up with some conspiracy crap."

    I've heard 2 different versions. Like you, I want more information. I want to read the transcript for myself. ? ?

  • LibraGirlonly

    Keep looking at the world through European eyes and see where that will get you. You are still a black man (target)

  • abby-o

    Did she commit suicide 12 yrs later because she allowed these men to run a train on her? Or was she always mentally unstable? Is this his first movie? Why is this now brought up

  • Unita Lucinda “Lucy” Freebush

    Thanks for sharing.

    I'm sure if we are honest, most can recall an instance or situation...I know I can. ?

  • SingleGalCrazyWorld

    Im a sistah and it hurts me to see other sistahs backing this man like he wrote them a check. Right is right and wrong is wrong. Anybody who chooses not to look at the facts about this incident and just judge it on race is simple minded. What if it was your sister? Mother? Niece? Daughter?

  • Phillybruh

    Your comment doesn't strike me as free thinking though. More this is what massa wants me to say, but definantly not free thinking.

  • http://batman-news.com Roderick2011

    Or drop by the toy store. Hell a sex toy is cheaper and less taxing than having to navigate the legal system after being accused or rape.

  • LibraGirlonly

    People please!!!! most people are just saying they are not going for the red herring,you know the banana in the tail pipe. They brought this up to keep us from seeing the movie it's called mind control and some of you black folks are easy targets. Just sayin. It's about the movie it's just that simple.

  • Phillybruh

    Isn't it possible to look at the facts and come away with a different conclusion?

  • ShelleDC

    I had to stop commenting, because I realized my frustration was coming out more and more. My frustration has nothing to do with him or this particular situation. But more personal, so I'm taking a back seat on the rest of this thread.

  • MrsSailor

    I need for you to research this. They raped her and harrassed her on campus to the point the campus paid her a settlement for not doing enough to protect her.
    He's scum

  • Ceezus

    Right! This movie is about empowerment.

  • mainey

    ideally no because drunk/tipsy looks different for everyone. but will it happen, sure. But be prepared if someone claims rape.

  • Wuts got Petty Davis Eyes..

    UHH sir...You know my imagination leans towards the naughty..LOL! Dont tell me about thangs swangin! Im doing well! New gig since we talked (I think) I like it..

  • Orchidjones-PETTY INSTIGATOR

    ...and this is not about me and my feelings-I need to realize this, but more of the unanswered questions. I play every scene I can remember over in my head. Now that the women are estranged, I can't get them together to discuss it. I'm guessing I should leave well enough alone. But the woman brings the incident up to everyone who listens...how the other friend abandoned her while she was getting gang raped, just told her father within the last 2 years or less. Her mother has now passed on so she never knew, but the father approached the other friend to ask her why she didn't help or run and get someone, regurgitating this story up all over again. It's uncomfortable I know. I've been in plenty of situations with men, but not of this magnitude. If you need to talk about it, do it then, its healing in the process in doing so, not bringing it up and rehashing it as a victim. I am not a victim, but I am affected, just no outlet.

  • abby-o

    Was he found guilty? Its the easiest thing for a woman to cry rape and destroy a man life...this person was obviously not mentally stable..

  • MrsSailor

    As a woman and the mother of daughters the rspe apologists on this board make me sicke especially since the majority of us are probably Black.
    The only reason he was acquitted was because he used the fact they had consensual sex before. This did not give him the right to violate her while she was could not legally or willfullu cobsent. Also it was reported that the victim was harrassed in campus by both men to the point the school paid her a settlement because they failed to protect her.
    This is not about the media attacking a black man but about him reaping what he sowed. Her blood is on his hands

  • Jusstlookn To Stay Woke

    1. Dating Tiger forever
    2. Heavy Cocaine usage
    3. Picking a husband that a loser.
    4. Refer back to my Thoughts
    Sticks out tongue

  • abby-o

    How did u know she killed herself because she had sex with 2 men back in college? Oh did the brother say that's why she killed her self?

  • Jusstlookn To Stay Woke

    Listen here sis, I COULD NOT SLEEP.

  • scentsychick30

    I will support this movie because of the narrative it tells.i want to see a film and black people fighting against oppression and taking their freedom by any means necessary.??

  • QTNA brought to you by KIC!

    Ok

  • abby-o

    Well from what im reading she was asleep... So what did she go tru? Her vagina was wet when she woke up.. He was found not guilty so ur situation is different.

  • LibraGirlonly

    Its all he say she say so why wouldn't I support this movie. It's not about Nate it's about a movie that some people want to silence. I was almost raped myself so I can understand what rape means but this movie is not about rape and we are don't have all of the facts and he was cleared so once again what do you want from us? I have to look at this from a logical perspective.

  • LibraGirlonly

    Its all he say she say so why wouldn't I support this movie. It's not about Nate it's about a movie that some people want to silence. I was almost raped myself so I can understand what rape means but this movie is not about rape and we are don't have all of the facts and he was cleared so once again what do you want from us? I have to look at this from a logical perspective.

  • Michelle

    Spoken like a true rapist.

  • Michelle

    Spoken like a true rapist.

  • LibraGirlonly

    That's all I want to do and it doesn't mean that I support rapist.

  • LibraGirlonly

    That's all I want to do and it doesn't mean that I support rapist.

  • MrsSailor

    We do know the facts. There is proof of thier harrassment. The other man was convicted. She got a settlement from the school. Its documengec her first suicide attempt started after they were jarrassing her on campus.

  • LibraGirlonly

    That don't mean didly. The school probably paid so it would go away and black men and the justice system is never just soooooo. And for the hundredth time what does that have to do with the MOVIE?

  • MrsSailor
  • Lolalao

    Had his wife murdered too, Sharon Tate.

  • MrsSailor
  • MrsSailor
  • Phillybruh

    Well Penn State always settles. And yes the other guy was convicted but it was later overturned so something wasn't right with the conviction.

  • Phillybruh

    Well Penn State always settles. And yes the other guy was convicted but it was later overturned so something wasn't right with the conviction.

  • LibraGirlonly

    The trail is over and once again it's not going to keep me from seeing this movie. If Nat Turner had raped a women then perhaps I would think twice about seeing it but Nate is just the vehicle to get this important story out to our people. In that order!!!

  • SingleGalCrazyWorld

    Yeah if you dont want to see the obvious. Lets say you were drunk from a night at Vango (shout out to our city!!) went back to campus was passed out and some guys took advantage of you? What if you had a rendezvous with one of the men before but at the present time the last thing on your mind was having sex with him. So instead he takes it upon himself to take advantage and not only that invite his bestie to the mix. How would you feel if you were rode hard and put away wet? Then after all the hoopla every time you go to class, in your dorm, go to the store you were harassed by not only your assailants but the entire school. No one to listen to you everyone calls you names and blames you. That is one hell of a burden to live with.

  • MrsSailor

    It was overturned bevause he claimed his legal representation wasnt good

  • LeBrick James

    I remember how some of us defended R Kelly too, and Cosby as well... and if any black person said he/she thought RKelly & Cosby were guilty, they got called all manner of names.
    So if you look at the facts and end up coming to an opinion that a certain black man actually did what he's accused of, I guess that makes you a sellout/house-negro, etc? smh I feel sorry for people who think that way.

  • Phillybruh

    And they clearly weren't if his co-defendant walks and he doesn't on the same charges.

  • MookieFly

    I personally feel if it was unrelated, this story would not be brought up at all, Nate wouldn't have released that long ass statement, etc. She was in a mental facility for a reason.

  • MrsSailor
  • http://suzar.com/BOTW/BOTW-ch1d-pages7-8.html Staci Elle

    Thats a rapist for ya!

  • Phillybruh

    Let's not say, the actual court transcripts give a totally different story. We love a good victim, and if there isn't one we will make them one any way.

  • LibraGirlonly

    Why is this even being discussed? The movie should be the focal point not the actor playing the part. Use common sense.

  • Shira Harding-James

    I believe him

  • Lolalao

    Bill didn't rape all of those women. More than half saw him has their Golden Ticket. Why take drugs from someone you don't know? Why are you ok doing an interview with a man in a robe? #missme

  • http://suzar.com/BOTW/BOTW-ch1d-pages7-8.html Staci Elle

    God forbid this happens to you or someone in your family. This happened to this woman, one man was found guilty, this POS( pictured above) was only found innocent because they'd had sex before, he invited his friends to have sex with an unconscious woman, one refused. If this is ok with you, seek help!

  • LibraGirlonly

    No I will let my good critical thinking skills help me make my choices not something that's he say she say mixed with some lies and some truth maybe. That's not the focal point for me. I am more interested in the Movie.

  • hottlanta

    This racism needs to stop because of who we are. That is not a movie that is REAL life. The movie doesn't bother me. What bothers me is what happens to us when it is over. Let's have a discussion about that and what are you doing to make things better. I gotta think about me being born here and how my ancestors, SLAVES built this country and now they are trying to stop me from voting. They got a separate Voting Rights Act for me and people from foreign countries can vote. Why when we fight for what is rightfully ours we are victims. I guess you are enjoying your quality of life doing what you wanna do now because a victim like Malcolm X, Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr., Ida B. Wells, Fannie Lou Hanner and Eula Baker fought for you to have a good quality of life. Survivors yes, victims no. There is a difference. You sound like one of those people who know things ain't right, will see a black person on television raising hell and you be saying they need to shut up. Then time the opportunities open up, you are the first one to line to enjoy the fruits of their labor.

  • Vonn

    You don't know that he actually sexually violated anyone.

  • Lolalao

    I think a few women are made because he's married to a white woman. #justbeinghonest

  • MzFutureLCSW

    That's a different question, all together.

  • http://totallifechanges.com/PurTEA VanillaCaramel2shotsExpresso

    And Woody Allen married and has babies with his stepdaughter . Nasty arse still makes directs and writes movies . Actresses feel honored to work with him too.

  • digital_femme

    I understand where you're coming from. I really do. I was born and raised in Birmingham by parents who we're raised during the Civil Rights movement. Let me reiterate - ALL of our history is important. But there is room for other stories that celebrate the accomplishments of blacks also.

  • magical radical

    It's sad because a lot of Hollywood is filled with pedphiles, rapists and more, such as Brian Singer, director of Xmen, accused of raping and abusing teenage boys and still working until today with the accusations brushed under the rug. I rarely ever support movies at the theater, but I will this one because it's an important story. Please believe if he was playing in something else, I might avoid it, but this story is long overdue, so I'm choosing the message over the messenger. I hope it is well done. And if you boycott this movie, be careful what you do support, because a lot of times you do not know the evil that goes in behind the scenes. I do pray he is a changed man because he did make some really bad decisions. I also pray for her family and that she is resting peacefully.

  • digital_femme

    That's not what I said. There's room for other movies too that celebrate our accomplishments before and after slavery. Wouldn't you agree?

  • digital_femme

    *sigh* See my response to your other reply on my post.

  • digital_femme

    Now THAT would be a refreshing change if they don't hold anything back in the movie! No "white saviors"!

  • SameoleJ

    That does not get it overturned. Might get a retrial, but not an overturned verdict.

  • Dee_713

    I find this very sketchy that all this comes out when this highly anticipated movie that he wrote and directed is on the verge of being released.He's been in "The Great Debaters" and "Red Tails." Why wasn't this news back then?At the end of the day he was acquitted.Sorry for the loss of life but let's be real.Only those three knows what happened and when alcohol is involved, lines are always blurred.I'll say this and be done, women can turn a mans whole life around when accusing a man of rape.

  • 88

    Sill going to see the film I have no sympathy for Beckys

  • scentsychick30

    Truth,for me it's about the movie and a story that should be told.

  • BlueCandy

    Nigga please, burn him and his slave movie at the stake!

  • milkiecat

    They should do a movie about the Haitian slave revolt.

  • Jessica

    Oh please! Stop judging. You were not there. He was found NOT GUILTY in a very swift trial. You are just like those mean ass Hollywood elites who try to smear every good thing a black person does. Let. it. go.

  • SameoleJ

    I was the one who mentioned 12 Years, as an example of a different kind of "slave" movie, that is why I responded and said that nobody was implying that you were more or less "woke". But thank you for being an "I @ people" type of person.

  • MzFutureLCSW

    If you are drunk, you are not aware. Drunk. It is a law to protect people. Including irresponsible people.

  • Readytochokemothernatureonout

    Ugh we want it out not for food.

  • Readytochokemothernatureonout

    Yes several times

  • Readytochokemothernatureonout

    Awww nah it's his duty to make sure this house is sealed tight it scared my grandson so bad.

  • Readytochokemothernatureonout

    If that expert don't show up then yes I'll enquire for those carry rabies, we already had to clean ish up hmph.

  • I Run New York

    I agree. I heard a story about some NBA players that did that. I think it was Derrick Rose. I don't get it. What is the appeal of trains for the guy? Can someone explain?

  • mark

    he was not charged...i dont know if he did it but i know him speaking about it sounds remorseful which is being used against him

    in my college dorm down the hall on my floor this drunk highschool girl was in a dorm and all these guys raped her maybe 16. i stayed in my room and all the guys kept going down there/ some guys said they were doing her dirty putting bottles in her and everything...the next morning the cops arrested many.
    i was young i just shut my door and ignored it, i should have said something

  • I Run New York

    I think Nate brought it up first just in case the story came out. Then the brother responded.

  • hottlanta

    The last guy gets the dyck print of everyone that went before him. Sick

  • http://totallifechanges.com/PurTEA VanillaCaramel2shotsExpresso

    And I'm going to say this .... If a lady, girl, woman is not drunk and in no way inebriated then she should think twice about agreeing to anything like this. It's not a moral judgement that I'm passing it just seems there is regret when the young men brag about . If the woman is impaired then these men need to RUN! Even if she starts off saying yes or agrees to have sex if she is/or becomes intoxicated then charges could be brought . I'm 100% in agreement the train mentality needs to stop.

  • http://theempirefiend.tumblr.com/ Bird

    Are you implying that this woman deserved to be assaulted and her life destroyed for crimes committed 200 years ago?

  • http://totallifechanges.com/PurTEA VanillaCaramel2shotsExpresso

    If she was unconscious.... I don't know the full story . Men that choose to do that might as well be Necrophiliacs.

  • http://totallifechanges.com/PurTEA VanillaCaramel2shotsExpresso

    Or a hole in the wall.

  • Jozie723

    If she was passed out drunk... how does she know who did it? Sometime ladies make bad decisions and run from the shame of those decisions by blaming others. I've seen it a time or two.

  • <—Doesn'tTalkToStrangers

    I forget what and who and when ? but somebody on here couldn't get rid of something and we came up with a Whole List ????

  • MsSincerity

    Nope.....I'm implying that I don't care.

  • hottlanta

    Let's see. Snoop Dog
    Married black woman
    Makes porn flicks and Soul Plane
    Sounds about right

  • hottlanta

    Ole girl talked as if she wanted to come back to ole boy after he cheated on her. Talking bout Imma pray for you when Grace said her daughter was her plus 1 coming to the wedding. She is controlling anyway. Grace gonna get pregnant.

  • hottlanta

    She got emails and text messages.

  • hottlanta

    Django was a slave movie with a white man riding around with a giant tooth on his wagon. Lawd take me now.

  • hottlanta

    They didn't even wanted to give Simone credit for breaking the world record. They had to add Michael Phelps name first and called her a African-American. I was glad the tennis guy corrected the reporter the other day and told him that Venus/Serena was the first AMERICANS to get gold medals in tennis when the reporter told him he should be excited to be the first to win a gold medal. Negroes talking bout we are beyond race. Got my pressure rising. Where are my pills.

  • hottlanta

    Please I am reminded everyday that they try to treat me less than human by charging me more for my insurance/mortgage because I am black and got good credit. We are constantly reminded of that everyday when we see white boys like Eric Snowden get good jobs with no degree and you busting your butt for your degree to get a good job. Then they try to pay you minimum wage and work you like a dog. Sounds like slavery to me.

  • LuLu

    I haven't read it but others are saying (about the transcript online) that Nate and his friends harassed the victim for days/months on end. Nate wore a condom, his friend didn't. If it wasn't rape, then how was his friend and co-writer convicted? He didn't even apologize. His statements are all about how it affected HIM. I'm out....

  • Fendi aka Erin Blockabitch

    I always felt that a man who has no problem running behind another man when he was just with a woman wants the man's "juices," not the woman's aka he is on the downlow.

  • Fendi aka Erin Blockabitch

    I agree and I understand your point.

  • mela.reign77

    Dead on!! I totally agree....

  • Fendi aka Erin Blockabitch

    You have an almost adult child?!. Geez! I'm over here thinking you were about 25. Lol.

  • ZRoJoTheLezBeyond

    You are super sweet! Yes ma'am, I just turned 39 in June.

  • Readytochokemothernatureonout

    I love this blog it's very informative and hilarious too

  • Fendi aka Erin Blockabitch

    Wow!

  • ZRoJoTheLezBeyond

    You know what's funny though? When I was younger I looked older than what I was (I wore make-up back then, too). Now that I'm getting older, I'm looking younger. I stopped wearing make-up when I was 17 cause it made my skin bad. Took me a long time to learn how to take care of it. And losing weight helped take some years off, too. But thank you again! You have made my afternoon :)

  • Fendi aka Erin Blockabitch

    :) I've never worn makeup. I walk around looking like Plain Jane. It works for me. I probably should learn how to apply a little makeup properly. I have a feeling if I tried on my own, I'd leave home looking like I'm the newest addition to the kabuki. Lol

  • KB

    Whoever wrote/edited that letter is GOOD ??.They definitely use words effectively to influence/impress people. I hope they're making a nice career out of that skill.

    Note: This doesn't in any way give my opinion on the content though. That's all I got - ¯_(*_*)_/¯

  • the guest

    Never gonna happen because white people resent Haitian Independence and will resent it until the end of time.

  • http://www.pureromance.com LA

    I know it did.Glad everyone's fine..

  • Readytochokemothernatureonout

    Thank you

  • KB

    Yes, thank you for sharing. ?

  • KB

    ..........

  • KB

    I wasn't ready & gave my phone a diet coke bath.

  • http://totallifechanges.com/PurTEA VanillaCaramel2shotsExpresso

    He was acquitted.... Rape is rape and a molester is a molester true. But do you know HOW many men have been cleared and set free from jail because of DNA testing ? The women identified and testified against some of these men and yet DNA proved they were not the rapist. Their character and names are maligned . So many are not set free that are innocent. This man was acquitted so they didn't find him not guilty based on probable cause or reasonable doubt. They acquitted him which cleared him of every charge. We don't know if she was unconscious or not . His regret is more likely that he participated in a train. He hates the way he treated her as he defended his self. She may have thought she was raped, lied about it, was raped by one or both, felt regret or a combination of things that resulted in her suicide.I pray her family get peace and that her soul is at rest. The courts did their job and this man should be able to move on! Pastors that molest should be punished and sat down but this is two different issues. As a victim of moleststion by family friends and abused in the church he has the right to move on!

  • KB

    Just a real question & asking for real answers. Is it awkward for anyone else as it is 4 me to say RIP and/or RIH for a person that commits suicide?

  • bemetoo

    I don't know the whole true story.. but from my sources nate and the victim been fawking for months..she got with him because he was a black athlete and she wanted some bbc. After nate gave her the bbc, she got dyckmatize and started make bad decisions for the dyck. Nate and the victim broke up and the victim couldn't get over the dyck so she suckered nate into one last fawk but nate said it ain't happening if the home can't get none..so victim had 1 to many drinks and decide cool after the deed was done victim felt degraded nate and his friend brag about it and she was shame so she came up with the rape story..she agreed to fawk nate but she claim she didn't recall if she said yes to the friend hence why he was convicted..he appealed and the case got thrown out because she lied and she didn't want to get cross examine in court again

  • http://totallifechanges.com/PurTEA VanillaCaramel2shotsExpresso

    Very true ..... That regret makes a lot of women call the doctor and get a rx for the morning after pill. Sometimes after their reputation is ruined for wanting to be sexually adventurous then they do damage control . I hope she wasn't raped by them or wasn't unconscious.something went way wrong either she changed her mind, was unconscious in the beginning or end, she lied or doesn't really remember. Regardless they admitted they had sex with her but said it was consensual . She didn't win in the one case and the second conviction was overturned after she didn't testify.

  • http://totallifechanges.com/PurTEA VanillaCaramel2shotsExpresso

    Sounds conceivable since Nate was acquitted . If she was white her family probably was against her dating somebody black in the first place.

  • http://totallifechanges.com/PurTEA VanillaCaramel2shotsExpresso

    For me it is... I was raised suicide is a sin.

  • bemetoo

    Yep idk all the technicalities but the the jest of it

  • facingrealit1

    Nate's Karma began the day his wife gave him 5 daughters. His response is very selfish and self-centered and he'll relive these words over and over and over again in his head as he watch his 5 daughters experience life. Trust and believe!

  • Cole

    Ok but ADMIT that having sex with a drunk person is disgusting and vile and predator-like!!!

  • Critical_Thinking

    Apparently you did not read the court documents -_-

  • Critical_Thinking

    Read the court documents and him and his friend bullied and tortored this woman to make her leave the case alone and withdraw from school, If he comes up dead, I wouldn't be hurt for what him and his friends did.

  • Critical_Thinking

    Bitch are you crazy? This women was raped, bullied, and tormented by them for speaking up and possibly could have got then convicted if they were not agressive and scared her for speaking up, and people wonder why rape victims don't want to come forward. I don't curse on thses forums, but you are a dumb ass HOE.

  • Critical_Thinking

    Supporting the movie is supporting him, he is the writer and director for the movie and if you read the court documents you will see that they raped that women and only got off because they tortured, bullied, and harassed her. It was so bad she took her life and if he comes up dead, then he won't be missed. I will not be supporting anything he does and will be posting this to my facebook to make friends and collegues aware.

  • Critical_Thinking

    Girl, these people on here are fools and got my pressure worked up taking up for a rapist, and the court documents and evidence proves that she was raped. Thrn, they wonder why rape victims are afraid to report the crime.

    *Shakes my head and leaves before I have to drive to some of these people houses and put hands on them...*

  • Critical_Thinking

    Can I get one from you? (Before I drive to some of these people houses and beat some sense into them)

  • KennyHollywood

    There's no such thing as "rehabilitation" for a Black man in this country. Once your name is put in the system, they will hold it over you forever and this is a prime example.

  • KennyHollywood

    I agree..,

  • http://totallifechanges.com/PurTEA VanillaCaramel2shotsExpresso

    I guess you were on the jury? I don't know if she was raped and neither do you. He was acquitted for a REASON. I believe the evidence wasn't there. I said I don't know if she was raped, or if she was unconscious. The only ones who know we're the ones in the room. The law is the law and not every person who is accused of a crime and/or convicted is guilty. I'm educated enough to know that. I'm also not a hoe and would never and have never gotten so inebriated that I didn't know what I was doing or where I was. I also never agreed to participate in group sex to be labeled as whore. If she was unconscious and didn't agree to it the evidence wasn't there. So I stand by the decision to acquit and he has the right to move on. As for the one whose verdict was overturned he knows the truth as well. She is no longer here and the case has been over. I pray her family can forgive and find peace. I also think the men involved should be able to be forgiven, forgive themselves and be able to live productive lives.

  • http://totallifechanges.com/PurTEA VanillaCaramel2shotsExpresso

    I forgave my abuser and rapist . He paid for his crimes and i pray he reformed. He lost a lot in life but seems to be doing better. At first I didn't care what happened to him because I did nothing to merit the attack. No woman, man , or child deserves to be abused but I refuse to be bitter, angry, or unforgiving. It will eat you up while the abuser moves forward.

  • http://totallifechanges.com/PurTEA VanillaCaramel2shotsExpresso

    Just because he/they said she consented doesn't make it true. Just because she said she didn't consent doesn't make it true either. The truth doesn't always prevail . Everyone in the situation made a choice with dire consequences . I know the evidence wasn't there to support the one conviction. He was acquitted and she didn't testify a second time. It was too much I'm sure for her to go through again. I imagine if they didn't rape her - in their mind then they defended themselves aggressively. If a person is facing a lengthy jail sentence for something they didn't do and are being lied on or think they are being lied on ; they are going to fight aggressively . They have that right even if they did do it. Sometimes , often times rape victims are revictimized and it's sad . In this case I'm not sure I feel like it started one for everybody and then something changed .....

  • Critical_Thinking

    You are silly and failed to read the court documents, bullying, threats, and the guy that was in the room and walked away, who verified that she was passed out and her story. Are you a man?

  • http://totallifechanges.com/PurTEA VanillaCaramel2shotsExpresso

    She said they bullied her..... Once again he was aquitted so a jury didn't believe her. They didn't believe her or the evidence against him. It's was dumb of them to have "consensual " sex with a drunk woman for sure. The testimony is a they said/ she said. She wasn't credible in the first trial of the director/actor. Sighh And women that choose to get drunk out of their mind shouldn't be blamed for being raped . But WHY cant he be forgiven? Some crimes are absolute disgusting and difficult to fathom forgiving. But I have to wonder why the jury didn't find him guilty or not guilty. They aquitted him... They were not intimated by him or impaired. No evidence he raped her and he was credible. The other conviction was overturned. That means that evidence was shaky too. This was what the jury concluded . Let him move forward.... There are child molesters and criminals that are directors, actors, teachers, priest etc. They have not been caught or before a court of law. He has been and it's time ... Been time to let him be forgiven.

  • http://totallifechanges.com/PurTEA VanillaCaramel2shotsExpresso

    No I am a woman and I believe the jury heard her testimony in both trials, saw the evidence, and determined she wasn't credible. That's why one was aquitted and one case was overturned. Plus NO ONE was convicted for harassing her or intimidating her either. She wasn't credible to the jury.... Bottom line. And if I was a man what difference would it make men are raped everyday too. I don't if she was telling the whole truth or not just reading the transcripts alone don't tell the whole story. Hopefully if your ever picked for a jury you will be willing to listen to the evidence and not your heart and gut.

  • http://totallifechanges.com/PurTEA VanillaCaramel2shotsExpresso

    It is nasty to sleep with a drunk/ high person especially when they are passed out. It's also irresponsible to drink until you pass out and don't know what, why or when anything has happened to you . Yes they were stupid and nasty. She was dumb too. You can't trust anybody ... Don't get drunk or accept drinks from associates, strangers, or anyone who could take advantage of you! I know that's not the popular answer but truly it must be horrible to pass out and be taken advantage of.

  • Unita Lucinda “Lucy” Freebush

    Touche'

  • http://totallifechanges.com/PurTEA VanillaCaramel2shotsExpresso

    Rumors are singer Lil Mo's husband likes that . It's nasty .... Yuck.

  • http://totallifechanges.com/PurTEA VanillaCaramel2shotsExpresso

    Happens all the time when daddy and mommy find out. What happens in the dark will come out in the light. Some think they are in another state so their family and friends won't know. I know a girl in high school hooked up with several black boys on the football team. She married her white boyfriend when she found out she was pregnant . Had a big baby shower and then had a black baby boy! She didn't cry rape but her patents wanted to say the boys must have taken advantage of her. Her husband divorced her and she has had three more babies with her husband..... All black by the way.

  • http://totallifechanges.com/PurTEA VanillaCaramel2shotsExpresso

    You sure are vested in this. You seem to be suffering from PTSD because you are making this your cause. Make sure you do the same thing when Woody Allen or Roman Polaski direct or write another film. You asked me if I was a man? Are you white ? I'm biracial myself but I'm asking you because seem enraged these black men "got off". Aquitted and overturned was the verdicts. Roman was found guilty and ran to another country. Did you petition when he directed a film? I'm going to see the movie and buy the DVD too.

  • http://totallifechanges.com/PurTEA VanillaCaramel2shotsExpresso

    So right .....

  • http://totallifechanges.com/PurTEA VanillaCaramel2shotsExpresso

    A to the Men! How do know if she lied or wasn't completely honest and it cost her everything. Maybe she couldn't live with the shame, embarrassment and humiliation of possibly lying, being looked at as a ho, or quitting school? Maybe she always suffered from lie self esteem and this just was too much. I'm sad she didn't recover from this .... He shouldn't be held accountable for her suicide . He should sue that brother for defamation if he calls him a rapist again.

  • http://totallifechanges.com/PurTEA VanillaCaramel2shotsExpresso

    He has remorse now he has said so. If I was accused of something I didn't do then I would be mad too. I would defend myself aggressively too. He said he didn't rape her and the court agreed. Live your life Mr. Nate. work out the rest with your God.

  • http://totallifechanges.com/PurTEA VanillaCaramel2shotsExpresso

    Not arguing , calling, going by the house, don't want to hear his voice even. She wasn't credible .... The jury was probably mostly white too and didn't believe her.

  • http://totallifechanges.com/PurTEA VanillaCaramel2shotsExpresso

    Thank God DNA is getting some men out. How can a woman declare emphatically that a man raped them, point them out of a photo line up, or a line up and they just believe her. No DNA just her word. Glad DNA is being tested and some are released but there are many more....

  • Critical_Thinking

    Thanks for knowing me and knowing what movies I see and support. I do not support those other two that you mention as well. I am black and do not support a racist, I read the court documents including the phone transcript, they are rapists and when the movie flops, I will be celebrating. ?

  • http://totallifechanges.com/PurTEA VanillaCaramel2shotsExpresso

    Even if they are rapist or not their charges were either aquitted or overturned. I don't think they have to do penance for the rest of their lives either. The best thing they can do is live a better life and learn from every mistake they made. Teach their children to do better, treat their family well and provide for them. They have the right to work, be successful and forgiven. They still will face criticism and outrage that's a price they have to pay. I don't expect the movie to be a box office success , I'm hoping it's well written and critically acclaimed . I hope it does Mr. Turner's legacy justice for all he did to help fight slavery. Bittneress and judgement over a persons past is ugly. Learning to pray for and forgive people brings peace and joy. I am glad my mistakes big and small have been forgiven. Heres hoping for an Oscar, an Emmy a SAG honor even a NAACP image award! Let the negative be turned into a positive. Let his mistake be a warning to others! Let his success be an inspiration!

  • Cole

    Thank you! #exactly

  • http://sandrarose.com SandraRose

    He was found not guilty because he was a Penn State athlete and the jury was made up on Penn State fans. It's the same story with most athletes who are accused of rape. They always get off. That doesn't mean they are innocent.

  • Critical_Thinking

    Do you feel the same way about Philando Castile killer and George Zimmerman?

  • http://totallifechanges.com/PurTEA VanillaCaramel2shotsExpresso

    People reap what they see. If you sewed bad seeds you will reap just rewards. That's what I feel will happen with these two. I watched the Zimmerman case and was so confused as was the nation at the outcome. He has continued to see discord and brags about what he did. The director and his friend that were both tried have seemed to turned their lives around. They are still reaping negativity from their actions years ago but they have chosen to rise up and live a better life. All they can do is continue to do is see good seed and reap the benefits from that.

  • LotusFlowerBombOne

    You may have seen that a time or two but I've experienced passing out around someone who I thought I could trust and they took advantage of me so this in fact does happen. There's no telling what went on. The fact that she committed suicide kind of makes me want to believe her. Just cause a person passes out doesn't mean they can't remember who they were around and the fact that they didn't consent. Don't be naive...

  • Unita Lucinda “Lucy” Freebush

    I wish you peace on your journey. ?

  • Jozie723

    I'm not saying I doesn't happen. I do have empathy for anyone who has been harmed in this type of situation. I'm just stating that everyone who is accused isn't guilty. I have experienced that side of he coin as well.

  • Jozie723

    Bad situation for all involved. I'm not judging any of them. I hope they find peace.

  • PK

    He was found innocent - why is he still getting dragged in the news?

  • http://totallifechanges.com/PurTEA VanillaCaramel2shotsExpresso

    Me too....

  • digital_femme

    Very well said.

  • naughtycorner

    Did You read the court docs which included testimony from Nates own friend who testified that the girl was unconscious when Nate was having chex with her and Nate (not the girl ) invited BOTH Him and Celeste to join in. He refused because he did not did not think it was right but Celeste did ,He also said the girl was unconscious The girl testified that she was in and out of consciousness but woke up briefly to find strangers organ in her mouth.

    The transcript you are referring to is not the entire case it is a recorded phone call set up by the police with hopes to gather more info as in the identity of the 2nd man as he was unknown to her cuz she was out of it. The pregnancy was the COPS tactic to let Nate admit that another man was there (which he denied initially) and offer his name which he did very quickly to exclude himself from the whole pregnancy

    Your entire post is a testimony to the saying a little knowledge is a dangerous thing because you are spreading this without the full context and a reminder that of all the rape apologists out there it is women who amaze and disgust me the most

  • naughtycorner

    She was NOT pregnant , She was never Pregnant the Cops told her to say that so Nate would be more willing to offer up the name(s) of the other Men involved so as to exclude himself as the only possible father and it worked . Even if consent with Nate was a grey area . Nate himself KNEW she did not know Celeste or consent to sex WITH him so at first he was denying that he had let his friend run a train on her until he wanted to save his own a$$

  • K. Maiza

    Legally( not then, but now) an intoxicated person does t have the legal means to consent so they definitely raped her.

  • majotay

    If you had read all the documents you would know that she recorded phone calls with him after the incident where she questioned him as to who else was having sex with her, because she had a memory of it from a brief lucid moment during the rape.

    Nate repeatedly insisted no one else was there.

    Then on a later recorded call, that police were monitoring, he admitted his friend was there.

    This proves that she was uncouncious during the entire encounter. Why would Nate expect her to believe that no one else was there if she was awake and aware of what was going on? And why would he lie about the other man's presence if she had given consent?

    This is all a matter of official record. He is a scumbag who got off on the lame excuse that she had given consent during a previous encounter. She was gang raped, read the reports.

  • majotay

    You keep going on about how it's just her word against his, it's not.

    Read the documents, she was a gang raped while uncouncious, there was witness who refused to participate.

    If you take the time to read them you will see.

  • http://totallifechanges.com/PurTEA VanillaCaramel2shotsExpresso

    I read the reports .... The jury aquitted him though. I don't know what the reason was. With all this proof that the prosecution had he was still aquitted. In addition the verdict for his other friend was overturned. Am I saying they were innonocent ? No , however they both have the right to move forward. I don't think that even if they were found guilty they would still be in jail. Sadly convictions for rape have 10 year or less sentencing guidelines. I guess everyone blames them for her suicide and they think they should still be punished indefinitely. I'm not callous I'm just realistic. It's time to let healing begin and let them live....

  • majotay

    I dont care if he was aquitted. The facts i stated above prove he invited other men to rape his uncouncious victim.

    You asked if he should be allowed to move forward, move forward from what? He was never punished.

    Whether you like it or not, his punishment starts now.

  • http://totallifechanges.com/PurTEA VanillaCaramel2shotsExpresso

    So he should have been convicted but yet he wasn't. So how long should he live in imaginary prison.

  • http://totallifechanges.com/PurTEA VanillaCaramel2shotsExpresso

    It's still he said she said! The witness was giving testimony but it's all subjective. It's her testimony, the witnesses testimony, and then the jury decided the case . The jury didn't feel she was credible, the witness wasn't credible and/or the evidence wasn't there....Nobody explained why the jury aquitted yet.

  • http://totallifechanges.com/PurTEA VanillaCaramel2shotsExpresso

    Legally now, aquitted then.

  • http://totallifechanges.com/PurTEA VanillaCaramel2shotsExpresso

    How do you know the witness didn't participate and then lied about his involvement to avoid getting in trouble? You don't know because you were not there, this is testimony not all proven facts.....once again the jury who was not called and intimated said we vote for acquittal on every charge....

  • majotay

    No punishment, star athelete, movie star, lovely family, life of glamour and luxury - most people would kill to be in such a prison.

  • K. Maiza

    My point is don't get so caught up in legal semantics that you come across as heartless. Nate Parker may have won his case but he is still the textbook definition of a rapist.

  • http://totallifechanges.com/PurTEA VanillaCaramel2shotsExpresso

    I may seem callous but my point is that he was aquitted and he should be able to move on. We hold people to their past mistakes until the end of time. If it was my brother. Uncle, nephew or son etc. I would want him to improve his life and move forward. In other post I said he was wrong for sleeping with an unconscious woman.... I also don't see anything wrong with people discussing it either. Hopefully he will be able to fully forgive himself , and be forgiven.

  • http://totallifechanges.com/PurTEA VanillaCaramel2shotsExpresso

    Prison of judgement.... But I hope he can preserve. We complain about our black men being in jail then when they are freed from prison , exonerated , aquitted, case dismissed , paid all their fines , we still seem to want blood.

  • K. Maiza

    He has moved on quite nicely. That lady probably saw him on a billboard and it pushed her over the edge. People boycotting Parker's film is a slap on the wrist in my opinion. Up to this point, he had a stable career and a growing family; an extraordinary life. We can't say the same for his victim. The difference is if it were your family, they would probably be locked up. Let's not confuse real life with someone's movie not being a blockbuster.

  • majotay

    Because common sense would dictate that if he had participated then the two people he had just ratted on would point the finger at him as well.

  • majotay

    Because common sense would dictate that if he had participated then the two people he had just ratted on would point the finger at him as well.

    And that testimony was not contested by anyone anyway, including the rapists.

  • majotay

    No, the phone calls are part of the record. Parker initially lied about the presence of another man. That is not he said/she said. That is someone changing their story.

  • majotay

    We are not talking about black men, we are talking about one man.

    Everyone who watched Making A Murderer was sure Brendan Dassey was innocent. As it turns out everyone was right. Sometimes the system fails, sometimes its failure is painfully obvious.

  • http://totallifechanges.com/PurTEA VanillaCaramel2shotsExpresso

    Well I think he has said he made a mistake , a jury of his peers found him innocent, it was 17 years ago, we can't retry him; and he has made a choice to something positive with his life. I only wish the young woman could have moved forward as well. I pray he continues to do better.

  • http://totallifechanges.com/PurTEA VanillaCaramel2shotsExpresso

    Can anyone that read all the testimony please explain hoe he was aquitted ? Was the jury that mesmerized that he was an athlete? I'm so serious I don't understand with the tapes, the testimony, the witness how did he get away Scott free ? He didn't even get in trouble for harassing or intimidating her.... No one can answer that except say he was great athlete .... I guess that biased the jury. I just don't know he wasn't found guilty . I'm not even being sarcastic. I'm curious ... Not an opinion but a factual reason to why the jury aquitted him. That's completely closing the door on it.

  • http://totallifechanges.com/PurTEA VanillaCaramel2shotsExpresso

    Not really if they said he did it then it would be an admission of guilt on their part. It was actually better not to contest it.

  • http://totallifechanges.com/PurTEA VanillaCaramel2shotsExpresso

    He didn't grow up rich and hasn't been in anything anyone really remembers him in. She didn't just kill herself and he isn't accountable for that. I guess he is supposed to live a sad, poor, non existent life. I feel bad that this woman did get the justice and then the help she needed... But he has the right to move foreword.

  • http://totallifechanges.com/PurTEA VanillaCaramel2shotsExpresso

    Who said he is a big movie star living a glamorous life? Even if he is though he has the stigma and judgement about his past to contend with. Money can't fix everything.

  • majotay

    They acquitted him because they couldnt determine whether she had given consent or not, because that was a matter of he said/she said, but she had given consent on a previous occasion

    Which is lame, consent needs to be given each time.

    Also, this all happened at Penn State where sports are more important than even the raping of children.

  • Amel

    The woman was passed out, it was rape. Nat and his buddy may not have recognized that as young men but it wasnt consensual.

  • kekeb

    Standby on the rape case he was cleared from. Let's discuss why he Makin a slave movie and his wife ain't black??? I mean he wrote and directed it but u don't want a black wife tho?????

  • kekeb

    No. Shyt u don't own heaven or hell and neither does anyone else on this blog

  • kekeb

    Right!! People bought Jell-O pudding for years and still is ?? (bill cosby)

  • KB

    Thanks for responding & for your answer. LOL but why are you cursing though? Also, I mentioned nothing about owning heaven or hell & just asked a ?. Be easy.

  • beba micou

    Is it bad that I was supporting him until I saw this pic??? Hypocrisy...irony..???