Obama smoking ban

If you live in public housing and enjoy smoking a good cigar or a weed joint after dinner, you may be facing eviction.

Smoking will be banned in public housing nationwide when a Department of Housing and Urban Development (HUD) regulation goes into effect next year.

The new rule will affect more than 1.2 million households, according to HUD officials.

The ban will have its biggest effect in New York City, where the Housing Authority oversees 178,000 apartments housing 400,000 mostly black and Hispanic residents.

The New York agency unsuccessfully begged HUD to give them three years to "phase in" a smoking ban.

THe new rule forbids smoking cigarettes, cigars, marijuana, pipes, hookahs (or water pipes) -- but not e-cigarettes -- in all apartments, indoor common areas, administrative offices, or 25 feet from the exterior of any public housing development anywhere in the continental United States, including Hawaii and Alaska.

Critics of Obama's smoking ban see the new rule as an excuse to aggressively evict problematic residents.

Public Advocate Letitia James said she's concerned about “aggressive enforcement” of the smoking ban. Especially after the public uproar over the NYPD's old Stop & Frisk policies.

“I’m concerned about reversing all the progress that we have made in this city, and the healing that we have been able to do ... between police and NYPD,” James said.

But a HUD official dismissed those concerns.

“The last thing that we want are evictions,” said HUD secretary Julián Castro, in a call to reporters.

“We’re confident that public-housing authority staff can work with residents so that [evictions] can be avoided.”

  • Fendi aka Erin Blockabitch

    Doesn't he smoke? ?

  • lil goodie

    Lawd why not an open post.... POTUS still getting blamed......????

  • lil goodie

    No he quit

  • Nanny

    I don't think this is a bad thing. Smoking destroys pain and getsuffering into everything. Don't like it get off of public housing

  • MookieFly

    Well...its not your property so...I might have to step out this one.

  • A.P. Millz-CT

    I'm sure he keeps a few loosies in his back pocket..lol

  • Michelle

    Imagine the chain of command abusing this policy. A disgruntled manager at a cheap apartment complex knocking on tenant A door in hopes of smelling cigarettes and it's her word against the tenants. This won't end well.

  • Fendi aka Erin Blockabitch

    So, because he quit, everyone else should? I've seen pics of the POTUS with joints and cigarettes in his mouth. He was smoking while he was POTUS. I don't like cigarettes or marijuana and there are laws outside of NY that prohibit smoking in apartments and outside of apartment buildings. Evicting someone for smoking who lives in low-income housing seems really discriminatory, to say the least. Next, they'll evict people for drinking alcohol in their own homes or for fornicating.

  • SaltineCrackers

    It would be great if this was really about people's health, but the truth is because most housing projects (especially in NYC) are in prime locations "they" have been working hard to get people out permanently so that the apartments can go market rate.

    Once the apartments go market rate they can being the process of legally gentrifying the housing projects.

  • SugarFoot a.k.a Ty

    Like they did Cabrini Green (projects) at home (Chicago). Prime location and where they taped the movie Candy Man back in the day. Now they're condos starting at $300k

  • Angela

    I don't see this as a problem....Most of the people on public housing have children and the second hand smoke is deadly/bad for them not to mention the neighbors, it stinks up the buildings and ruins/discolors the paint....

  • francine

    Yep! You hit it right on the head. This is about getting certain tenants out.

  • Buttercup

    Many apartments and property management companies forbid smoking inside the unit and common areas. Smoke free communities have become a thing. This is no different.

  • Buttercup

    He also doesn't have a landlord. A lot of places, especially upscale communities, don't allow smoking in the units. If there is a smell of smoke when the tenant moves out, the tenant is responsible for getting the unit ozoned which could cost up to $1500 depending on severity. The same goes for lingering cooking odors, i.e. curry.

  • SaltineCrackers

    Smh. Black people better swallow all of their cigarettes if they have to and get their stuff together fast because a lot of the surrounding areas are too unaffordable.

  • harley_quinn2.0

    Most jobs also. If you want to smoke, take ya ass across the street to the gas station.

  • Buttercup

    Yep. At least 20 feet away from any entrance to the building.

  • Fendi aka Erin Blockabitch

    Lol @ curry. That must be geographic because the laws about smoking are just starting to change in parts of So Cal. IDK about public housing, but some unincorporated cities of LA County have banned smoking in apartment buildings and I think office buildings. (Don't quote me on the latter.)

  • Buttercup

    Yep, you're right. Even without laws, lots of property management companies forbade it. It was written and clearly spelled out in the lease agreement.

  • 88

    We need to stop smoking period how bout we boycott that? All you doing is defiling your temples and making the yts rich at the same time. Smoking will KILL YOU.

  • Carolina Blue

    What else??

  • http://sandrarose.com SandraRose

    That's what former Atlanta Mayor Shirley Franklin did. She gave vouchers to public housing residents to move then she razed all the housing projects downtown. Guess who lives on that land now?

  • Carolina Blue

    They stank anyway...cigarettes that is.

  • MissHarlem

    When this was brought up years ago I seen this for what it is. Y'all can stay sleep though and cigarettes are deplorable to me can't stand it but yet and still I see this for what it is ?

  • hotntot95

    Um..how u gonna enforce this ? Lookin thru people windows??..so dumb...
    ...fix Flint's water problem..how about that..

  • Petty Patty Cakes

    I have no problem with this. We have smoking bans all over my state. You can't smoke within a certain amount of feet from any entrance to buildings, et cetera. Personally I don't want to be in clouds of other people's smoke, and there are a lot of children living in public housing so this might actually be a good thing.

  • 88

    SMOKING SMOKING & SMOKING

  • SuggaB

    After banning smoking, what then? Ban salt? Bacon? This is ridiculous. Folks are grown and do what they want. At the end of the day, we all have to die. Health or not.

  • Petty Patty Cakes

    Exactly. Anything ges can't happen all the time. Sometimes rules exist, and this one isn't unreasonable. Get with or pay for your own housing.

  • 88

    Boycotting Swine Bacon would be a good idea first off it's unclean and it accounts for more than half of our ppl who die from cancers and diabetes.

  • ibedatchick

    #truth... we been knowing and as NYC resident I have no real idea how they are going to enforce this (I mean pitbulls are prohibited, but that seems to be the only breed in the pjs).
    I hope NYCHA with their deficit of over 3 billion and thousands of backed up repair orders, make them repairs before they try to enforce ANYTHING!!!

  • Petty Patty Cakes

    But second hand smoke affects the people around you. False equivilency. No one is forcing bacon down other people's throats

  • SugarFoot a.k.a Ty

    yeah they have to smoke in the parking garage and they have that lil spot lit around lunch time. All huddled up looking like some crackheads

  • MissHarlem

    If memory serves me correctly NY was the first state that banned smoking in a lot of public places. However this is slightly different my dog ears go up on this one.

  • Incog-knee-gress

    You forgot it causes heart attacks.

  • Incog-knee-gress

    Someone mighta made him eat that bacon

  • SugarFoot a.k.a Ty

    yeah me too because if this is enforced there will be no limitations on what's next

  • Michelle

    Glad to hear...

  • Zizzle

    No problem, Trump/Pence can overturn it on day 1. Problem solved. ??

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  • MissHarlem

    Slippery slope

  • CutdBS

    He ran for president as Barrack The Black Activist from Chicago. Once in office, he became Barry The Biracial from Honolulu. lol Are they going to go into these people apartments checking for cigarette butts?

    70 to 80% of Black kids go to the WORST schools in their city and state and HE DID NOTHING. He had zero VISION and Zero PLANS for the black community. His vision and plans were for Gays and ILLEGALS.

  • http://theempirefiend.tumblr.com/ Bird

    Obama didn't do this. He's on cruise control right now.

  • ?Patty Kakes?

    I don't know about this. Thats there own private space, their only little safe haven. I just don't think it's right to tell people what they can do in their own homes. Why should you have to leave you home to go out in the cold to smoke when your paying the bill
    Although some living rent free or reduced rent with little to minimal utilities. I guess you can't say much when someone else is paying your rent * shrug *

  • http://theempirefiend.tumblr.com/ Bird

    I can't live somewhere where outside entities control what I do in my home legally.

  • missmiami305

    Welp!

  • missmiami305

    Welp!

  • Buttercup

    And you're entitled to feel that way. That leaves the option of you owning your own place or finding a place that fit your requirements. I don't smoke in any capacity, so it doesn't matter to me.

  • Buttercup

    And you're entitled to feel that way. That leaves the option of you owning your own place or finding a place that fit your requirements. I don't smoke in any capacity, so it doesn't matter to me.

  • hi-liter

    The bottom line is when a person receives government assistance, the government tries more and more each day to run those people's lives who they assist each month. I read something the other day that was still talking about banning sweet stuff like candy and other non-nutritional foods from EBT cards.

  • hi-liter

    The bottom line is when a person receives government assistance, the government tries more and more each day to run those people's lives who they assist each month. I read something the other day that was still talking about banning sweet stuff like candy and other non-nutritional foods from EBT cards.

  • http://theempirefiend.tumblr.com/ Bird

    These poverty stricken people will be fined for violating this intrusive policy while the fat cats who control the tobacco industry will continue to amass generational wealth. Why not just make smoking illegal? What about the children of people who don't live in poverty? What's next?

  • Sexy CJ

    If The Government.........REALLY........Wanted Its Citizens To Refrain From Smoking.........Then They Would Cease.....&......Prohibit The Sale Of...... (ALL)........ Tobacco Products To U.S. Consumers.

    #Clever Systematic Plan 4 Housing Gentrification......#It's Levels 2 This Shyt !!!!!!!...............

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  • http://theempirefiend.tumblr.com/ Bird

    Same here. Next they'll be sterilizing folks in the hood.

  • stav

    So I guess all the residents now will be vaping tobacco, weed, crack , etc.

  • SaltineCrackers

    Lol

  • http://theempirefiend.tumblr.com/ Bird

    My grandfather and grandmother both smoked. They had 10 children. There are no occurrences of lung cancer in my family and we have longevity as long as we don't drink. The drinking doesn't mix with our high blood pressure. That second hand smoke malarkey is a myth.

  • http://theempirefiend.tumblr.com/ Bird

    NY already taxes the hail out of cigarettes and now they're going to be fining poor people. Home of the free huh?

  • crystal weston

    It is not fair to residents that smoke but what about the residents that do not smoke. Second hand smoke is worst then the person that is smoking.
    I think it is minimize the drug trafficking in public housing. IJS

  • SingleGalCrazyWorld

    Ok well other then that what about mandatory drug testing for people who get public assistance and live in public housing?????

  • Invoke positivity

    ???

  • zawnn

    I witnessed a cop offer to fine someone for smoking in their apartment. (He said its nYCHAS property and smoking on their land is illegal) this was more than 6 years ago

  • crystal weston

    Actually Bird it is not a myth at all. I have a family friend is ill as of now due to living in the house with a man that was chain smoker and she did not smoke at all. Some health issues lay dormant and do not surface until later in years. I think that the nicotine that is in cigarettes now as to when I was coming up in the 70's are so strong now. If you ever take notice its so intense to the point it is sicking sometimes.

  • Low E. TUH!

    DEFINITELY GENTRIFICATION...THERE'S A HOUSING PROJECT HERE THAT'S BEEN EXPOSED AS BEING BUILT ON TOP OF CONTAMINATED SOIL "PREVENTING/POSTPONING" DEMOLITION...

  • CutdBS

    Obama ran for president as Barrack The Black Activist from Chicago. Once in office, he became Barry The Biracial from Honolulu. lol Are they going to go into these people apartments checking for cigarette butts?

    70 to 80% of Black kids go to the WORST schools in their city and state and HE DID NOTHING. He had zero VISION and Zero PLANS for the black community. His vision and plans were for Gays and ILLEGALS

  • Low E. TUH!

    I SEE WHAT YOU DID THERE

  • Low E. TUH!

    I'M STRICTLY TURKEY BACON...UNCURED

  • SaltineCrackers

    They'll enforce it during the sweeps they do. As long as they find cigarettes or smoking paraphernalia then they'll use that as evidence in housing court.

    They got this one lady and her children out by claiming some crushed eggshells in her apartment was crack cocaine.

  • Indies beauty

    They will be okay. My lease doesn't allow smoking either .... but I smoke a blunt eveeerrry day ?

  • Noirluv45

    Today, it's tobacco products and other related smokes; next it's banning fattening foods and beverages.

  • Ajavee

    I live in apartments and both of my neighbors smoke cigarettes and the smell travels upstairs to my apartment ugh....

  • Saharabutnotdry

    How about fornicating in public housing ?
    Any updates ?

  • Araminta Glissade Chaines

    This is just a way to phase out pub housing. I mean, how are they going to prove/enforce this? If they smell it? And if it's apartments, what if the smelled drifted from next door? Are they going to kick in somebody's door if they get a complaint?

  • Saharabutnotdry

    They are hiring smoke police enforcement now ?

  • Araminta Glissade Chaines

    Right

  • Saharabutnotdry

    My sis was issued a ticket for smoking on the train platform ( dumbass ) , she only had her student ID , so meeehhh

  • jayhawkpride

    Can you smoke a whole blunt by yourself?

  • Prettybrowneyes

    No problem with it either. There are a lot of lease agreements ppl sign that ban smoking. Unless you own your on home or property you are at the mercy of the rules of who owns your residence. Its not a "rights" issue.

  • MissHarlem

    Hood knows where to get boxes of cigs for the low low so they good with the tax but this nah

  • Indies beauty

    Yes. Lol

  • TeeTee

    Right!

  • Low E. TUH!

    ARE THEY SERIOUS? DUH

  • Saharabutnotdry

    Oh my ! I would lay next to Kanye , paranoia on fleek !

  • Willetta

    This has been the rule in Florida for the last 2 years ... & they Do enforce and ABUSE it!! They have mandatory inspections and they best not smell no smoke!! https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/fed3926dd7d3d563c4de3c2a991c1f88d8742e3a80cac49a002c3a021f0c138f.jpg

  • sunni_daze

    Who's going to enforce this law. It will cost properties too much money to pay someone to enforce a smoking ban.

  • sunni_daze

    That's what I'm saying.

  • MookieFly

    Bingo! But I understand being down and certain circumstances. Shoot, Ive been homeless before. But when the roof provided is provided by somebody else...*shrug*

  • sunni_daze

    Just a, I need at least 2

  • QweenOfThorns

    Have you seen the Twisty Pipe Glass Blunt by 7pipe?

  • QweenOfThorns

    Me to...although im pretty much a pothead.....gotta have wake n bake Jay...then my after work/traffic Jay...then the babe home gotta smoke with him jay. Then after lil thorn go to bed Jay. After that its we've watched 2 shows time to smoke again Jay. Finally the good night Jay.

  • Sexy CJ

    If you live in public housing and enjoy smoking a good cigar or a weed joint after dinner........you may be facing eviction.

    Smoking will be banned in public housing nationwide when a Department of Housing and Urban Development (HUD) regulation goes into effect next year.

    The new rule will affect more than 1.2 million households, according to HUD officials........#This Is Going 2 Be Interesting.....#Nationwide Basis.

    Public Housing Residents > Police Officers...........

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  • sunni_daze

    Yep, you summed it up.

  • Incog-knee-gress

    That is not your home if you are a renter and certaintly not yourn if the gov't is your landlord. You wanna live there and pay $4 a month then guess what?

  • Incog-knee-gress

    They already did that. Eugenics.

  • Incog-knee-gress

    Lmaooooo. This meme was everything.

  • Carolina Blue

    Lol

  • Indies beauty

    Yes my best friend bought one recently and she's waiting for me to visit to try it. She doesn't even smoke lol but she likes to when we're together catching up.

  • Indies beauty

    Lol yasss this is my life on my off days.

  • Indies beauty

    Lol when they were explaining I was just like ..... o...Kay!

  • CookieMobster

    If you can afford cigs and weed your behind should be saving up for a house YOU pay for that's not paid for by MY tax dollars.

  • QweenOfThorns

    Lol. I work better high. The ladies at work are like "you're so laid back!". Yea I have zero fuqs to give about this place and weed helps me shake off the angry black woman that simmers deep down inside lol.

  • Buttercup

    LMBO. $4 though? I'm WEAK!

  • QweenOfThorns

    Best friends that smoke together stay together....none of my female associate smoke. Which reminds me I need to call my gay boy....ive been neglecting him lately.

  • whitty hutton

    Say that shyt Dub!! Folks wanna live off the government and contribute nothing to society then complain about rules governing what the OWNERS of said property deem unacceptable. Get out and work hard to own your own shit, then you can smoke and stank it up as bad as you want to.

  • whitty hutton

    Not swallow em!!????

  • Scromes1212

    The police lol I think your missing the whole point of the post.

  • Quitedeliteful

    Probably when you grandparents smoked tobacco was pure. Now they put all sorts of stuff in cigarettes to keep/get you hooked.

  • Scromes1212

    So this was done without him knowing? You think the federal government can make this drastic change without the presidents knowledge?

  • Queen B

    This is great!!! Yo ass can't afford housing without subsidy then shouldn't b able to afford cigarettes and weed

  • Scromes1212

    Or Obama can overturn it now lol but that would make to much sense lol

  • Incog-knee-gress

    My sister. Once upon a LONG ass time ago (Im talking late 80s when my nephew who is now 29 was born) used to work for BOA back when that shat was NATIONS BANK. THAT long ago. Well. One local branch here was the branch for Housing Authority tenants to pay their rent. She said folks rent used to be stupid DUMB ass LOW amounts. $12. $26. A MONTH. And they would have the NERVE to be BEHIND on their damn RENT. This a real life STORY man. I was so floored by it. Your rent is TWENNIE dollars and you behind!

  • Scromes1212

    Because I'm poor I shouldn't have the same rights as you?

  • Scromes1212

    Some people have no choice. Poverty is real.

  • shun king

    These lil boys standing in check out lines with tattoos on they face asking for change all throughout Atlanta.... where they parents at? Who letting teenagers live with that with tattoos on their face?

  • Incog-knee-gress

    I have no sympathy for nobody getting govt assistance far as the rules. As a 23 yo single mother I got accused and then FIRED from my job uncermoniously and not even an APOLOGY from my employer once they found out I aint do nothing. Accused me of stealing. I seen a rainbow in THINKING I was gonna get AT LEAST some food stamps. Why I got told I got TOO MUCH Child support from Dub now 21 daddy? I aint lying. that with my unemployment and my CS I aint quailfy. I aint never qualified for SHAT. Bc I worked. I dont feel sorry bc some of yall dont and mad that there are rules. NOPE. Sorry Im not sorry.

  • Incog-knee-gress

    You can go sell plasma and get $75 in order to pay your $20 rent. I have zero sympathy if you are ABLE. Now if you arent that is different.

  • Anji

    I work in a community that uses forms of herb in treating many diseases including cancer. As someone who has cancer I feel for the patients who'd need to leave the premises for palliative care. I won't judge who resides in HUD housing as I know some have been productive and "contributed to society". Everyone has a story, we don't know it. Regular ciggies, I can get with this.

  • Jen_no_juice

    You're poor, why am I paying for housing yet you can afford cigarettes and weed? Those are expensive habits. If you can afford to maintain then you can afford to pay your own rent!

  • Realtoughchick

    Just so we are all clear. ( because I've had it out with landlords in California over this very issue) if you have a medical marijuana "card" "doctors note" etc etc. you ARE FOR SURE allowed to smoke your medicine in your own home. Public houseing ( any landlord) can not refuse to return your deposit over this issue. They also cannot exclude you for housing because you use medical marijuana either. Know your rights.

  • Jen_no_juice

    Most housing authorities have their own security. If not then the police

  • Scromes1212

    With all due respect. What is your point? Does that make them criminals? Africans, Hawaiian, endogenous people all over the world been had tattoos and tribal markings on there face. Ask the singer Seal. Those are tribal marks on his face. Let them do with there body what they please. If there using there hard earned money then what they do with there face and in line at the store is there business.in my humble opinion.

  • jayhawkpride

    I've never smoked a whole blunt by myself. That's why I asked.

  • Anji

    Here in Cali there are alt health cooperatives that supply medicinal herb. They provide smoke and alkaline water. Many have cancer as I do.

  • Scromes1212

    These are things that need to be addressed.

  • Low E. TUH!

    YOU NEED NEW ASSOCIATES...

  • Low E. TUH!

    YOU GET IT!

  • Low E. TUH!

    :APPLAUSE:

  • shun king

    Imho i am pretty sure you not from Atlanta and those are not no tribal marks in seal face...and hell yeh they criminals.is that what you callled oxymoronic statement? Hard earned money but begging in line?lol

  • Jen_no_juice

    I do know that weed can help with cancer (especially appetite after chemo) but majority of the people in Sec 8 are not cancer patients

  • Scromes1212

    Your dealing with cancer? I'm so sorry to hear that. My prayers are with you. But your correct in everything you said in my opinion. This is going to be a very important issue going forward. You legalize it only to tell me I can't smoke in my house and I have to be 25 ft from my building to smoke it? This is trickery

  • Scromes1212

    Do your research. Those are tribal marks on his face.

  • Quitedeliteful

    You got me with tears in my eyes at work! I can't stop laughing!!!

  • shun king

    Naw you do your research they not no tribal marks

  • Anji

    Still needs to be exceptions. Many advanced cancer patients utilize Sec 8 housing.

  • Jen_no_juice

    I agree. They're are exceptions to every rule and this is no different. Those exceptions should be stated

  • Anji

    Thank you for prayers. This issue is not about the health of the people. This is just the excuse.

  • Scromes1212

    I grow my food and if I needed weed I would grow it for free. Your not paying for my weed if I was in public housing. Stay focused, don't let them get you side tracked.

  • Scromes1212

    It burns me up that intelligent people can't see this smh.

  • Anji

    Seal's marks are from a health issue, but I have many friends who have actual scarification. Tribal marks are spiritual in nature.

  • Jen_no_juice

    I think it's two different issues. If they have medical reasons then this rule should not apply to them. But these folks who are living off the system and can spend $300 a month on cigarettes, weed, and liquor but need help paying their $450 a month rent is a problem

  • Scromes1212

    I have friends from where he is from. They don't have the same marks but they have tribal markings. I guess I assumed his was the same. But my point remains. Those boys shouldn't be judged based off off tattoos.

  • Jahnée Gill Mr.Eddie Murphy

    To the clown's complaining about "poor" people and what their taxes are paying for STFU! You all are flucking poor too! You're the WORKING POOR! No such thing as a black middle class either. The same way y'all tired asses bitch and moan about poor people and where your taxes are going is the same way the elites complain about y'all. You all are no better then the people that live in the " Projects" on an economic level as a whole. If you're not making at least 6 to 7 figures YOU'RE CONSIDERED POOR! More and more white people are moving into the projects. Since there's such a huge amount of nonblack and whites moving into the projects for cheaper housing, they're now starting to raise rents and push the blacks out.

  • Jen_no_juice

    Just lost 2 uncles to cancer (and gave them some of my herbal stash to help them). I pray for your healing and recovery

  • Scromes1212

    Don't agree with the language lol but your absolutely correct!

  • Anji

    I work and own my home, however we have an imperfect system that lends itself to abuse. Right now I'm burnt because I've been witnessing massive Medicare fraud and physicians pocket more than poor folk could ever. This issue is not about who can afford what. It is about government control and gentrification.

  • Anji

    Come wit dat truth Sis!

  • Scromes1212

    You are a very intelligent and beautiful soul. Keep spreading this information. You can not imagine how many poor and disenfranchised don't know this information.

  • Scromes1212

    It's a slippery slope

  • Anji

    No. I travel in my work as an ethnomusicologist. Traditional, indigenous people display tats and use multiple piercings. I myself adorn daily with beads and shells. I think people forget we are not European. We should be more concerned with what is inside the heads and spirit of our young.

  • shun king

    Black folks make 60k a year start acting like they part of the one percent and look down on everybody else saying they need to work harder and they can be like "well off"like them too lol

  • Scromes1212

    Funny how they legalize it then tell you not to smoke in your house or apartment lol? ( If your poor)

  • shun king

    Correct.

  • Buttercupdreamsmom

    Seal was in a bad accident that's why his face is like that... He has said it before

  • Anji

    Thank you and I'm sincerely sorry for your loss. I grew up with cig smokers and I'm the only one who struggles with chronic bronchitis. Second-hand is a killer also. Our people should aspire towards avoiding financial cost and health costs, but I don't allow others in my business and I wouldn't want government in mine. Ya know?

  • Buttercup

    Will you please stop killing me!!! Folks in my hometown still pay those amounts for rent.

  • sunni_daze

    I know that, but they are not going to pay for it, cost too. Half the rental cops ares cared of the residents, so that won't work. And if they use police they have to pay them over/double time. Businesses are in the Business of making money not throwing it out the window.

  • Scromes1212

    Police will enforce it when it fits there agenda.

  • Anji

    I've been a community activist for decades. If we didn't harbor such separatist views (they vs. us) we could uplift more lives and move forward as a collective.

  • Jen_no_juice

    When I worked at the housing authority they paid cops OT which the housing authority paid (and was reimbursed by the government). When they needed to cut cost, they hired their own police force got them certified and all and their salaries paid by government funding

  • shun king

    They only thing Barack mad about is he didn't get to promote the gay agenda across the globe like he wanted

  • SaltineCrackers

    LOL! That's my, if you think it's too hard to throw away try swallowing it, rule.

  • Zizzle

    Why should he?

  • Anji

    How many complain about stop and frisk. Government and law enforcement would just have another excuse to harass and persecute us. There is already a law of eviction if the head of household knowingly allows their child to traffic drugs. When I drop off students at Sec 8 housing I see Bloods 10 deep selling on the property. This has been since 1990. Our Sec 8 in LA doesn't have on-site security although a few have sub stations. They will only use this as a tool of control.

  • Libra80sBaby

    "weed joint"
    ----------------
    What dis is, Craig?? Isnt it known that a joint contains weed???

  • Howard Alum ?

    I kind of agree with that......
    Food is consumed to nourish the body....sweet stuff is toxic, sugar is toxic.....I see hella junk food in carts at the super market and be like ? then they pull out ebt? that's why I like wic...you're forced to eat right!

  • Howard Alum ?

    Then in some of these places it's still illegal to smoke Mary jane. Smh, two steps forward, then ten steps backwards. So much for recreational smoking.

  • Petty Patty Cakes

    I'm sorry to hear that. More and more I discover that people I know have been in that situation too. But God, right?!

    Yeah, I know this may seem like an inconvenient rule but it is their housing. I'm more inclined to find this reasonable because of the kids/second hand smoke angle.

  • Hair Lova ???

    Sooooooooo how do they plan on implementing this ummmm new rule? Is there going to be security stationed on each and every floor of every public housing building?

    Gtfoh with this bs. You want to ban people from smoking inside of the home where they pay rent, but won't hire enough maintenance staff to fix repairs? I live in public housing and this is the least of their worries.

    But I'm all for seeing how they will cleverly carry this ish out. ??

  • Petty Patty Cakes

    If the person was aware of the rule then *shrug*. What can you do? My freshman year we had all sorts of dorm rules and curfews. Inhad off campus housing soon thereafter. My desire to have a cat/do my own thing prevailed. I had to work more to cover the cost but it was worth it to me not to have the RA breathing down my neck

  • Hair Lova ???

    So is this new rule only for people on public assistance? I live in housing and pay my own damn rent. You mean to tell me if I want to smoke weed, crack or whatever my choice of drug is I can't? Wth is that??

  • Petty Patty Cakes

    Ridiculous! Who's wasting bacon on someone who don't want it? I'll take your portion sir!

  • Petty Patty Cakes

    We just passed legal weed and we're allowed to smoke it in our private residences if we so choose. Private being the operative word. It's legal but still against the rules if you live in a smoke free community.

  • Petty Patty Cakes

    Jail time is unreasonable. A fine is perfectly reasonable, I think.

  • Fendi aka Erin Blockabitch

    This. Yet they still haven't decriminalized more than an ounce.

  • Fendi aka Erin Blockabitch

    There's always a contingency when it pertains to poor folk, esp poor folk of color.

  • Scromes1212

    You want to argue about Sandra not the principal of what it is he enacted. I was clearly being facetious with my last reply.

  • CapricornIce

    I always felt like the projects should be for disability & senior citizens. And maybe foster kids. If I have worked my whole 37yrs, so should you.

  • Zizzle

    If you're looking for an argument keep looking.

  • http://sandrarose.com SandraRose

    Can't take the heat? ?

  • Zizzle

    The heat you produce couldn't melt butter.

  • Scromes1212

    An argument and dialogue are two different things. But enjoy your evening. All love

  • Zizzle

    No shit? ?

  • SugaChel

    I feel you. I previously worked for a housing authority too & now work for HUD. If you can afford cigarettes you can afford market rate rent. & nonsmokers can smell your nasty cigarette smoke coming from your unit polluting the buildings.

  • SugaChel

    Just keep in mind cigarettes cause numerous health related issues (they kill). Also this may help look out for the small children without a voice whose family members smoking habits contribute to allergies, asthma, bronchitis, etc.

  • Real Greasy

    Let's see....I walk past the benches the finest is in the air...I get to the stoop the finest is in the air....get in the hallway check the mailbox the finest is in the air...get in the elevator to the 12th floor smelling 15-20 years of stale urine!!!!!(priceless ) towel on the bottom of the front door..towel on the bottom of the bedroom door and the finest in the air......real talk productions!!!

  • Real Greasy

    Let's see....I walk past the benches the finest is in the air...I get to the stoop the finest is in the air....get in the hallway check the mailbox the finest is in the air...get in the elevator to the 12th floor smelling 15-20 years of stale urine!!!!!(priceless ) towel on the bottom of the front door..towel on the bottom of the bedroom door and the finest in the air......real talk productions!!!

  • https://twitter.com/Chicagowise Chicagowise

    If you want to smoke at home, pay your own rent! ?

  • https://twitter.com/Chicagowise Chicagowise

    This country loves to feed the pigeons and then complain about all the sh!t they produce.

  • https://twitter.com/Chicagowise Chicagowise

    Some of the people in public housing aren't paying rent.

  • https://twitter.com/Chicagowise Chicagowise

    Everyone on government assistance should be forced to take random drug and alcohol test. Why should the taxpayers pay to feed and house addicts? In addition, if you or anyone in your households breaks the law, your entitlements should be immediately and permanently revoked.

  • Stefanie Y. Shearrod

    Seal has discoid lupus, which contracted as a child. It causes skin lesions and scarring. He has discussed several times and is all over lupus sites regarding this type.

  • Stefanie Y. Shearrod

    It's from discoid lupus

  • Indies beauty

    lol so true! At this point they can't tell when I'm high or just "tired". I've been high for first impressions just to set the tone and cut out surprises. Like this is me ....all the time

  • http://totallifechanges.com/PurTEA VanillaCaramel2shotsExpresso

    Medical marijuana rx will increase 200% percent. There are already apartments that have banned smoking or that make leasees sign a waiver if they allow smoking to say they don't but will fined or evicted if caught smoking . If they want to smoke they pay a higher deposit . The ones that ban smoking just evict folks ....

  • Indies beauty

    oh okay I have friends like that. They will take a puff a few times and they are good. But It depends what I'm smoking.... sometimes I'll smoke half and put it out for later if it's loud.

  • http://totallifechanges.com/PurTEA VanillaCaramel2shotsExpresso

    People that are racist, bigots, small minded , and rude should be banned from having kids . Why should they pass that ignorance to another generation for society to have to deal with ? It's bad enough that we had to hear their parents and grand parents spew that hate, why would want another round of ignorance ?

  • Li

    As it should be. Banned. Every apartment building I've lived in in Chicago has banned smoking in the apartments and in the building. We have a fire a week in Chicago. A lot of it is caused by smoking.

  • Li

    Nah, if you want to smoke at home, buy a house....ownership. You can smoke all you want and burn the house down if you want.

  • Queen B

    No you shouldn't its nobody's fault ur poor

  • Omandesert

    I am in favor of this. Lived next door to a CHA development in Chicago and the residents would throw cigarette butts in the front yard instead of using a ashtray or coffee can.

  • Hair Lova ???

    So evict. It's not rocket science. One thing doesn't have to do with the other.

  • product of 79

    BLESSED that I don't live in HUD.... Cause I smoke ?? daily... I'll be dammed? listen if I'm outchea working 2 jobs taking care of mines not breaking laws or nuttin... it's my right to do me in my home.... But hey they can move if they don't like it ?

  • Dr.Rue

    Sandra, Most people in public housing are White . And I think it's good news. The kids are already suffering from the effects of Lead Paint and abstesos and God knows what other toxins

  • Readytochokemothernatureonout

    Hey you

  • product of 79

    Hey ? ma... How's it hanging in the land?

  • Readytochokemothernatureonout

    Rainy and cold. Ju wants snow

  • starbright9449

    Lol

  • product of 79

    Aww ? tell juju I hope he gets all snow he can stand??

  • Readytochokemothernatureonout

    Thank you I will

  • jeniefrumdabloc™

    I don't smoke in the house anyways chile ? that shyt leaves stains on your walls ....

  • the guest

    The smoking ban is about business and economics. Many public housing projects are built on prime urban real estate. The public housing projects will be phased out and rebuilt or renovated into co-ops or condos.

    The government can't just push the residents out. So they are implementing the smoking ban for grounds to evict as many tenants as possible.

    New condos and co-ops allocate 10% of rentals for low income tenants. That is the goal, to get rid of 90% of the public housing tenants through eviction and refer them to shelters and remote locations.

  • Simone

    In NY, as Sandra Rose referenced in her article, mainly Black and Hispanic people live in public housing and HUD's stats confirm that.

  • Dr.Rue

    The ban would effect all of the US, not jut NY & the article started out by saying that. There was no need to mention New York at all. Most people in public housing are White.

  • http://www.Samanthagwrites.com Samantha G.

    You shouldn't be smoking indoors, anyway. How people don't understand why this a no, no I will never understand. But the tenants (either under HUD or not)will ignore this ban/rule just like they ignore all the other ones. If there's no one there to really enforce things then it's pointless.

  • Simone

    Your thinking is all wrong. Smoking is not a right. My Husband loves cigars. When we travel, certain hotels & restaurants don't allow it. They own their property and that's their right. I work for goverment & smoking is banned there. Everyone doesn't want their building occupants subjected to 2nd hand smoke.

  • http://www.Samanthagwrites.com Samantha G.

    You're absolutely right. In Manhattan they've built a high-rise glass tower blocks away from the projects. The rumor is, they're planning to make Manhattan and Brooklyn so expensive that minorities have no choice but to leave and will only come to those cities to work then travel back home to another boro. And you can tell this by how gentrified Brooklyn has gotten. They're trying to turn it into Vegas, where the casino workers don't even live around there, some in other cities.

  • Scromes1212

    How can you get second hand smoke from inside my house? How can you get second hand smoke from 25 ft from the building?

  • Scromes1212

    If it's not a right then what is legalized weed? Your thinking may be off. To do what I want with my body is a right? Do you agree? I just want the same rights afforded to me that you get. Smoking in a hotel is against hotel policy but it's not a crime.

  • the guest

    Gentrification not only targets race, it mainly targets lower economic classes and mainly minorities by default due to whites having greater wealth. But all those who can't afford to stay no matter their race will have to leave.

    The smoking ban is a screening tactic to push out those who are deemed undesirables. The goal is to have the clean living non smoking working poor residents as the 10% they will permit to stay.

    They won't have to hire employees to enforce the ban, they'll install cameras and use select tenants as informants. There WILL be many evictions due to smoking violations.

    The government wants the housing projects back from the poor because the upper middle class and upper class don't want to live in and commute from the suburbs anymore.

  • the guest

    Exactly. Brilliantly stated. There's a new movement of "white" affordable housing with speciality stipulations such as being an artist or Eco friendly in order to qualify. Speciality stipulations cater to the white aristocratic poor. The white poor will tolerate but do not want to live among black poor.

  • Unhappy American

    How will they enforce this it's not a bad idea just NOTHING like having your own

  • Hair Lova ???

    Now this I get. I know about a year or so ago they actually made a deal to actually sell a certain amount of housing buildings to private realtors. In this said deal, the realtors had to agree to keep a certain amount of rents the same. And to fix up those developments since the city couldn't do it on their own.

    I stil want to know how they wil be able to carry out this smoking ban. You have so many buildings and tenants there is no way to keep up with who smokes in their apartment or not. You would have to hire someone or install some type of system to detect smoking. Which is bananas when they don't have money to even fix repairs and replace broken appliances.

  • https://twitter.com/Chicagowise Chicagowise

    That's an even better solution! ?

  • https://twitter.com/Chicagowise Chicagowise

    If I've said it once, I've said it a million times! Poor, ignorant, uneducated people, OF ANY RACE, have no business reproducing.

  • the guest

    Smoking ban enforcement: cameras and the use of tenants and maintenance staff as informants. The real estate game is ruthless. They don't care about fixing repairs and appliances and they don't give a darn about smoking. They care about profit.

  • Judi Lauren

    Bam!!!! Worked for me!!!

  • Judi Lauren

    None of them pay rent.0-$200 a month ain't no rent...

  • Judi Lauren

    I know ppl who crush up pills and mix it in their joints...

  • Judi Lauren

    Glad I made your cut!!!! Lol!!!

  • Judi Lauren

    Unfortunately, public housing is public assistance.

  • Sexy CJ
  • https://twitter.com/Chicagowise Chicagowise

    I was trying to be polite. ?

  • Sexy CJ
  • Jahnée Gill Mr.Eddie Murphy

    Making six figures is still considered BROKE. Factor in taxes, the cost of living , and other expresses you're not left with much. A 100,000 a year salary can quickly turn into 30 grand after uncle sam and everyone else gets their cut.

  • Depths Of My Soul!

    Wait, is this Only public housing or private buildings as well?

    How are they going to implement this when they can't even keep people from smoking weed EVERYWHERE and it is already illegal.

  • Depths Of My Soul!

    OMG they sold it to TRUMP!!

  • Depths Of My Soul!

    I know some who pay $500+, stop it

  • Depths Of My Soul!

    And tobacco

  • Depths Of My Soul!

    Exactly!!

  • Salomon

    Nobody should be smoking in public housing because of the possibility of burning down the houses. But we must praise Obama for the good things in the economy. http://ow.ly/qXWh306MDfg

  • Jayde da Blade

    DUMB shiiit.
    Focus on real issues.
    Ugghh.

  • Real Greasy

    Red Hook, bklyn....I walk out the building light up a port on the way to the bus stop (30 sec walk) on my way to work...blue n white states I'm too close to the pj's with my port either put it out or I'm gonna write you a ticket....Me I'm not trying to give the city any mo money than I have to, so I flick the flame and under my breath call them names and when out of sight I reignite until the bus comes. ..

  • Jayde da Blade

    They give 30% of their income most are paying rent of some kind. And its not always cheap either. I agree with you.
    Good ppl everywhere. I dont care what they do at home. Invasion of privacy is what i worry about. They can be drunk and pilled out though??

  • reddfoxxy16

    This is true, been happening in Atlanta, now Nashville, & Memphis...

  • reddfoxxy16

    They will probably install some type of system 2 detect smoking...& THEY HAVE THEM....ive seen them in alot of the senior citizen apartments....

  • reddfoxxy16

    Bingo!!!!!!!!

  • reddfoxxy16

    Wow, interesting...

  • reddfoxxy16

    Wow, whoever u are, you're very informed. ...would you happen 2 be in this line of work perhaps?

  • ThaRealist StudioGangster

    Can you guess which race of people will break this law the most? I'll give you a hint, 40% of the prison inmates are of this race.

  • ThaRealist StudioGangster

    With that logic, those who live by thug life and real nigga principal should be banned from having kids. In the past 20 years, thug life and real nigga principal has caused more incarceration and deaths of people in the United States then the KKK.

  • QweenOfThorns

    Right! The best way to hide from people that you're high is to never let them see you sober. You are a girl from my own heart. ? #stonerlife

  • toni walker

    If you can't get someone out by race you use economics as the excuse. Black people should educate themselves more to get higher paying jobs like white people to get out of poverty so its their own fault they are poor. And I know a lot of middle class Black people who face racism where they live especially like a segregated state like Michigan.

  • Indies beauty

    Lol were dropping keys right now.

  • Jussjess25

    Thats good cigarettes are disgusting

  • Jen_no_juice

    People on public assistance only!

  • Jen_no_juice

    Keep missing my point cause you're trying to convince me of yours

  • Scromes1212

    No my intention. All love

  • Scromes1212

    You don't have to be on public assistance to live in a housing project.

  • Chile_Pleeze

    if they can afford them high ass ciggs then they can afford to pay rent

  • Chile_Pleeze

    she ran them to Dekalb and Clayton county..... damn shame...

  • Emily post

    Hud needs a huge makeover... Ooook if they want to start with smoking...

  • WackaBlocka

    when they are on their way out they start doing dumb sh!#@ ... bloomberg also ...trying to ban soft drinks ...this has to infringe on some right or law ... there's gonna be a whole lot of people smoking in the lobby ... he should actually TALK to someone in the PJ's, so they can put him on about what is gonna happen next ... nobody is going to leave the warmth of the space they rent to go outside ( fall/winter ) furthermore if they don't want you smoking inside they will not even want you in front of your building .. again when they leave they start doing dumb sh!#@

  • WackaBlocka

    NY already has an alarming rate of homelessness ... also you do not want the PJ people ( in ANY state) homeless .. I don't think I need to elaborate on that ... the shelters are not livable ... if this is enforced it will open a new can of worms .. it takes years for public housing to even paint walls fix pipes and stop mildew in the ceilings ... pissy elevators I don't know a public housing elevator that doesn't smell like that .. I want to smack Obama upside the head right now .... nobody is perfect I guess LOL

  • Jen_no_juice

    Yes. I know that. My bad maybe I should've replied with "people on Sec 8 public assistance only"

  • IGuess

    He worried about smoking but not the Dakota pipeline and all this police brutality.