Judith Permar

A Pennsylvania woman froze to death after her arm got stuck in the door of a clothing donation bin early Sunday.

Judith Permar, 56, died after her arm was trapped while she was reportedly removing bags of clothing from a donation box near her home.

Her body was found dangling just inches above the ground with her left arm trapped in the bin.

Permar was standing on a step stool and reaching into the donation bin when the stool collapsed under her, according to the NY Daily News.

A coroner's report revealed she died from hypothermia and trauma after being trapped for six hours. Her injuries included a broken arm and wrist, according to the coroner.

Investigators believe she took bags of clothing out of the donation drop-off box, located along Route 54 in Natalie, around 2 a.m. Sunday.

Her body was found after sunrise about six hours later. Her cause of death was ruled accidental.

According to Philly.com, bags with clothes and shoes that Permar reportedly pulled from the bin were on the ground nearby. Permar's black Hummer SUV was parked nearby with the engine running.

"She was fishing bags out and the ladder she was standing on gave way, and she couldn't get her hand loose," said Mount Carmel Police Chief Brian Hollenbush.

Hollenbush said he knew Permar whom he described as a nice woman.

"It wasn't something that I would expect to be seeing," he said, referring to the bags of clothing found near her body.

In November, police received a report of a woman removing bags from the same donation bin while a black Hummer was parked nearby.

Permar leaves behind a husband, four children and four grandchildren. Her daughter, Angela Minnig, remembered her mother on Facebook.com.

"It was very sudden and our family will learn to cope with the loss of such an amazing Wife, Mother, Sister and Friend," she wrote.

"She was such a fun loving person and we know it would mean the world to her to say ‘See you Again.'"

An earlier version of this post incorrectly stated that Permar died while donating clothing to the bin.

  • SummerBaby

    Damn ? RIP ??

  • Datsmdubya2u2
  • nucynu25

    Bruhhh

  • SummerBaby

    Dead

  • CaliVirgo

    Who tf goes to drop off donation clothes at 2am tho??

  • CaliVirgo

    The curves are missing

  • nucynu25

    She must was leaving a dik appt

  • SummerBaby

    I was wondering that, but didn't want to say it. ??

  • SummerBaby

    Or going to one.

  • CaliVirgo

    Still wouldn't have gotten out my car to drop no shat in no damn bin..

  • imright

    see?! thats Y i dont donate ?

  • Sucker Free

    They need an attorney. That bin sounds defective. The stool too. 2 deep pocket defendants.

  • nucynu25

    Shit white ppl do .

  • Zizzle

    Damn.

  • CaliVirgo

    Girl I guess..RIP lady

  • Canary Red™

    ::stop it::

  • Soda

    Or she may have been dumpster diving, but I ain't speaking ill of the dead.

  • nucynu25

    I know her kids mad as hell at her for managing to die like this .. Rip tho

  • nucynu25

    ????

  • CaliVirgo
  • SummerBaby

    I have sew many questions. Where was her car & cellphone? When she didn't come back immediately why didn't they look for her?

  • RespectSelf

    well its a sad yet good way to pass away. She died while donating.

    I'm sorry for her family loss.... But seriously why was she out at 2 am doing anything.

  • SummerBaby

    Freezing to death is not a good way to go to me. ?

  • Quitedeliteful

    Maybe she was drunk and thought it was a good idea....

  • nucynu25

    Am guessing she lives alone & if you cant move ya can't get to the car .

  • SummerBaby

    If I'm drunk at 2:00 am in the winter donating clothes is the last thing on my mind.

  • nucynu25

    +1 ..

  • SummerBaby

    True, but in the daughters RIP it states she was an amazing wife.

  • Oliver Brady

    Maybe widowed? Idk. I put clothes in those things all the time. I can't picture this happening?? I thought the story would be she was reaching in to get clothes and got trapped. Sad.

  • nucynu25

    Oh okay ... so she was sneak dikn.. George was sleep when she snuck out .

  • stav

    Tragic!

  • MookieFly

    You need to cash me out for these chicken tenders I just coughed up! Making me laugh like that...

  • Carolina Blue
  • RespectSelf

    no, I didn't mean how she dies. Rather that the last thing she did before dying was to donate.

  • SummerBaby

    What?! I'm so serious.

  • SummerBaby

    Gotcha

  • Mrs Mary

    Exactly and what about the other arm?

  • Ni Ni

    Tragic...just...tragic ?

  • nucynu25

    ???

  • SummerBaby

    This!!!

  • Carolina Blue

    This shit here is absurd af!

  • Mrs Mary

    I said the same thing time to sue..even though she was bat sh$! Crazy for being out alone at that hour to DONATE CLOTHES!!!!!

  • MookieFly

    I would be conflicted too. Like what would you write in the obituary? "Judith died doing the most...per usual"? ?

  • Ni Ni

    I wonder if she was getting rid of a no good man's clothes?. Whatever it was sounds like she didnt think it through.. 2:00am.

  • ZZZ

    R.I.P. but something isn't right here. When I drop off clothes at one of those bins, I don't put my arm no where near the door or reach into the box. I put the clothes on top of the bin door and close it with the handles.

  • nucynu25

    White Jesus said not tuh day ya not .

  • Keesh5000

    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/8fcdd7bf1bb57c0de7a7481289362c8f7f3f2f4d321d9e52792f05faa0f88267.gif
    2:00AM. Prayers to her family....this has to be horrible news for them

  • MsSincerity

    Because she's beige, she had to be donating and not on the receiving end huh? Her arm had to be deep in there for it to get stuck. ijs

  • http://www.findyournichewithme.com Low E. TUH!

    NOT MANAGING! WHYYYY??!

  • Carolina Blue

    Bitch was on a drug pick up.

  • http://www.findyournichewithme.com Low E. TUH!

    MING IS LOVING THAT BANANA LONG TIME...

  • http://sandrarose.com SandraRose

    She was probably an insomniac who cleans her house at night while the rest of the family are asleep. Maybe she wanted to donate old clothing before she went to bed.

  • Mrs Mary

    Judging from her body language and the way her eyes look in this picture she was Bipolr or on Depression meds. Probably Schizo and Obsessive Compulsive Disorder. She couldnt stand the bag of clothes in her home any longer

  • nucynu25

    Swearrr .. I was just bout to say Mary was on that dope ..fuk alll dat

  • Carolina Blue
  • Carolina Blue

    Exactly!! Stop damn ? to make her look good!

  • nucynu25

    ????

  • klwbaby

    I have seen people just throw the bag out of the car window and keep going....

  • Keesh5000

    This is possible. I have insomnia and choose to clean and do things while my family is sleep..especially things I cant get done when they are awake. I had my Thyroid removed and it caused sever insomnia

  • Ni Ni

    Oan, you some of you sandra rose posters ain't ????. Poor lady?

  • Kanyade

    How dreadful.

  • Lenina Just Lenina

    Nothing about this sounds legit ?

  • nucynu25

    They childish .

  • Keesh5000

    Go to the kona please...nose to the wall

  • Lenina Just Lenina

    This is sad, like how ppl used to die in the beginning scenes of six feet under...but how, sway.

  • Carolina Blue

    Lmao man....you got me wildin...

  • SummerBaby

    I can understand all of that except leaving the house at 2:00 am in the winter. Most husbands are not going for that.

  • Carolina Blue

    ???

  • Keesh5000
  • nucynu25

    Me & blue already solved it . Mary was a dope head ...searching in the night for either that dik or dope . George was sleep so he had no idea she was out on a dik/dope run . He thought after yrs of sobriety she was clean .. but little did he know she was still chasing a high .

  • nucynu25

    It's fun huh ??

  • LibraGirlonly

    Next time I will do the same thing.

  • Carolina Blue

    Af! Always playing when it aint ?to damn play!?

  • Lenina Just Lenina

    George tho?? That sounds right as rain. Gone head news channel 7. ??

  • Carolina Blue

    BAMS THE MFKN TABLE!!!

  • Jahnée Gill Mr.Eddie Murphy

    I'm going go assume she was digging clothes outo of the bin. Why else would she need a stool and be reaching into the bin.

  • Carolina Blue

    Lmao i plead the 5

  • nucynu25

    We smart .

  • nucynu25

    Just can't do right .

  • Carolina Blue

    Caint and wont! Bitches

  • Lenina Just Lenina

    Go get the switch. Pick a good one.

  • Carolina Blue
  • Keesh5000
  • http://sandrarose.com SandraRose

    I miss the olden days when the Roses would jump feet first on anyone who spoke ill of the dead.

  • Kwamella Diquan

    RIP...But was she making a donation or a withdrawal? 2 am...1+2 does not equal 4 ? something ain't adding up.

  • Fendi aka Erin Blockabitch

    Oh, no. I was just talking to my mom about these donation bins. I used to leave a lot of items in them, in hopes they went to those in need. What a tragic way to die.

  • Fendi aka Erin Blockabitch

    My show!

  • B.Sweet Glow-up 2017

    How many Nucy and Blue duos does it take to screw in a lightbulb?

  • nucynu25

    We just writing alternative facts kinda like how you do .

  • IAmLegend

    Hell yeah! Mystery solved!

  • Lenina Just Lenina

    I'm about to rewatch now. The beginning was always sad. Ppl die in so many scary ways ?

  • Carolina Blue

    ???

  • ThisIsWhat40LooksLike

    Gone head Carolina and Nucy?

  • Kwamella Diquan

    Right! She had to been making a withdrawal...At 2am?!?????!!!!

  • Carolina Blue

    Im going to work now no need for a switch lol

  • Soda

    Notice that they both had to bend a knee to give the illusion of protruding buttocks.

  • Ms.Caramel

    This is a hoax... Please let's not start a whole 300 comment about this. It's a hoax people!

  • Lenina Just Lenina

    Both of y'all itchin for tickets to Whuptown...express train!!!!

  • Carolina Blue

    Just as many sweets lol heeey girl

  • nucynu25

    Auntie know we loves her but a spade is a spade .

  • MsSincerity

    That makes more sense.

  • SummerBaby

    Really?!

  • B.Sweet Glow-up 2017
  • Kwamella Diquan

    CTFU

  • Fendi aka Erin Blockabitch

    I was just talking to my mom about Six Feet Under because I saw the latter part of "Can't Hardly Wait" recently. There were multiple people in that movie whose careers took off, one being Freddy Rodriguez and one being Lauren Ambrose, both who starred on SFU.

  • Lenina Just Lenina

    ??????CRINE.????

  • Ms.Caramel

    I can't find anything about it online. Sandra is laughing at ya'll

  • B.Sweet Glow-up 2017

    It takes none because I'm going to get someone else to do it. Heeeyyy I was hoping you would respond before the sun went down.

  • Ni Ni

    Ikr..sadly I was on the receiving end every time when I pointed out when someone doing something stupid?.

  • Soda
  • Kwamella Diquan

    U STEW-PID! LMMFAO

  • nucynu25

    Wouldn't this comment contribute to getting to 300 .. asking for a friend ?

  • Taylordanes

    RIGHT....and going by the lead of HER president who could care less about anyone not on his agenda

  • Keesh5000
  • SummerBaby

    I went to google & I pulled up multiple stories on it.

  • nucynu25

    Bloop

  • Ms.Caramel

    Yep..... But just wanted you to know... And you're the friend...lol

  • http://sandrarose.com SandraRose
  • nucynu25

    You shole is smart

  • klwbaby

    According to another site, there were bags on the ground that she had pulled out already. Her black Hummer was still on when a person discovered her in the morning.

  • Keesh5000

    Yeap, my show too

  • Lenina Just Lenina

    Yup!!! I ain't seen that movie in forever either. Damn!!!

  • Lovezoe

    So why was she on a step stool. Why was she out at 2 am dropping off clothes. Sad nonetheless

  • Soda

    The show finale was so good, seeing how their lives continued and how some ended.

  • MookieFly

    I know but the follow up was too funny ??

  • MookieFly

    I know but the follow up was too funny ??

  • Carolina Blue
  • Carolina Blue
  • Ain’t Misbehavin

    That chit coulda waited! You know how long I've been riding around with a garbage bag full of papers to shred....

  • Ain’t Misbehavin

    That chit coulda waited! You know how long I've been riding around with a garbage bag full of papers to shred....

  • http://sandrarose.com SandraRose

    She was probably short and the box was too high.

  • http://sandrarose.com SandraRose

    She was probably short and the box was too high.

  • B.Sweet Glow-up 2017

    What the hell is going on with you? #SavageAF

  • B.Sweet Glow-up 2017

    What the hell is going on with you? #SavageAF

  • nucynu25

    My friend wanted to know .

  • nucynu25

    My friend wanted to know .

  • Carolina Blue

    Lmao

  • Carolina Blue

    Lmao

  • Carolina Blue

    Speak for ya self

  • Carolina Blue

    Speak for ya self

  • nucynu25

    Bloop

  • nucynu25

    Bloop

  • Carolina Blue

    Dont it

  • Carolina Blue

    Dont it

  • http://sandrarose.com SandraRose

    That is a shameful thing to say about the dead. How do they know those bags weren't hers? Why would someone who drove a Humvee steal old clothes?

  • http://sandrarose.com SandraRose

    That is a shameful thing to say about the dead. How do they know those bags weren't hers? Why would someone who drove a Humvee steal old clothes?

  • Kwamella Diquan

    It's also on daily mail. Now that I think about it...I think she was prolly trying to retrieve something she didn't want to donate and reached in the bin to try and grab it and her arm got stuck..Idk..Just guessing bc I throw bags in there all the time.. Impossible..But hey stranger things have happened

  • Kwamella Diquan

    It's also on daily mail. Now that I think about it...I think she was prolly trying to retrieve something she didn't want to donate and reached in the bin to try and grab it and her arm got stuck..Idk..Just guessing bc I throw bags in there all the time.. Impossible..But hey stranger things have happened

  • Lenina Just Lenina

    In the words of the great shakespearian lyricist Johanna..."it's...about...to go....down." ???? and your gif...fukkery level on tilt.

  • Lenina Just Lenina

    In the words of the great shakespearian lyricist Johanna..."it's...about...to go....down." ???? and your gif...fukkery level on tilt.

  • B.Sweet Glow-up 2017

    300 comments on topic? Not going to happen.

  • B.Sweet Glow-up 2017

    300 comments on topic? Not going to happen.

  • Carolina Blue

    Lmao

  • Carolina Blue

    Lmao

  • Carolina Blue

    Thanks dahling!!!

  • Carolina Blue

    Thanks dahling!!!

  • Lovezoe

    Then leave it on the ground like regular folks

  • Lovezoe

    Then leave it on the ground like regular folks

  • B.Sweet Glow-up 2017

    It's not shameful. The truth is the truth. This is like going to a dead beat dads funeral and the pastor saying he was a good father. Either omit the truth or don't speak on it but don't lie.

  • B.Sweet Glow-up 2017

    It's not shameful. The truth is the truth. This is like going to a dead beat dads funeral and the pastor saying he was a good father. Either omit the truth or don't speak on it but don't lie.

  • klwbaby

    They also said on a previous occasion a black Hummer was seen doing the same thing...

  • klwbaby

    They also said on a previous occasion a black Hummer was seen doing the same thing...

  • Lenina Just Lenina

    Yessssss!!! Omg I almost forgot about that!!!!! Just genius. Definitely belongs in my top five shows of all times!!!! Put life and death in perspective perfectly...on-screen, which you'd figure is hard to do...and I come from a family of funeral directors.

  • Keesh5000

    Ms. Caramel, I found it online....why are you saying this is a hoax?? Explain please

  • SummerBaby

    I found it online also.

  • Keesh5000
  • http://batman-news.com Roderick2011

    She was dumpster diving.
    When I lived in Alabama a would pass by a garbage dumpster on my way out of the apartment complex.
    Sometimes I would pass this black couple and the man would be over in the garbage bin and his wife would be in the truck on the passenger side.
    I always wondered what the hell they were doing until one day my mom and I were talking and she mentioned that they had caught this man outsider her job going through the garbage.

  • Keesh5000

    OOOOHHHHH YALL AINT RIGHTTTTT!!!!!

  • nucynu25

    I was just asking .. I didn't know how we were counting . Like if the goal is not to get to 300 didn't you just get us one step closer ?

  • Carolina Blue

    Tell em boo

  • Ms.Caramel

    Because I can't find it anywhere other than one place. This in my opinion... it's a hoax. If it were true you should find it anywhere you look.

  • Lenina Just Lenina

    Seeeeeee. Thank you!!!! Facts. RIP, she was prob a frugal fashionista. ??

  • B.Sweet Glow-up 2017

    I thought you were asking for a friend?

  • Keesh5000

    Where are you looking sweetie

  • nucynu25

    And ain't nothing wrong with that .

  • Carolina Blue

    Piss on my leg and tell me its raining.

  • nucynu25

    You too smart ???

  • Pink butterfly

    Bingo! She was taking from that box not giving. Her arm had to be hella deep in there to get stuck. Two in the morning on top of that. Then again yt people be on some other shit all the TIME.

  • Lenina Just Lenina

    Nope....just sad bein bout that life cost her her life

  • nucynu25

    Elect a con artist & make Amerikks great again .

  • B.Sweet Glow-up 2017

    There a multiple websites with this story. Are you using ask jeeves, angelfire, geocities or excite to search?

  • nucynu25

    Indeed

  • http://batman-news.com Roderick2011

    Oh because she was white she couldn't be stealing those clothes to sell them for money?

    God forbid.

    Well you know there are people who own excellent houses filled with furniture and have empty refrigerators or people who drive Mercedes and dress like movie star, but live in a dump.

    It just depends on how you want to spend your money.

  • nucynu25

    I hope she don't search how she count .

  • Ms.Caramel

    This is not common sense ya'll. Why do you believe everything you read online. Those slots are not made to hook and trap an arm... It's not possible to get hooked in them....

  • Pink butterfly

    During the cold ass winter on of that!

  • Mel

    New Orleans was hit wit a Tornado man the videos and pics is so sad smh

  • Keesh5000

    Im not even going to agree with Ms. Caramel....she said its a hoax, when at least over 10 media outlets reporting on it. I think the real problem here is Ms. Caramel statement and thats how we may end up getting 300 comments... that and if Sandra doesnt do another post until tomorrow afternoon

  • nucynu25

    We can't catch a break ??

  • Soda

    I think she's waiting for another carrier pigeon to come with confirmation.

  • B.Sweet Glow-up 2017

    She doesn't look like a little person in her picture. I haven't seen a box that high if you're just dropping things in. If you're trying to reach in to get something then you would need a stool.

  • B.Sweet Glow-up 2017

    She's waiting on the news paper subscriptions? I googled it for her.

    http://lmgtfy.com/?q=Judith+Permar

  • http://batman-news.com Roderick2011

    You suspend all disbelief for white people, won't you?

  • http://batman-news.com Roderick2011

    Well, after eight years of your trashing Obama and praising Orange Jesus we know that manners don't mean much any more in the garden.

  • Carolina Blue

    BAM!

  • Lenina Just Lenina

    Ooooooooooooooooh Lawd, you pettyyyyyyyyy!!!!!!!!

  • Mel

    Aww sorry to hear hun hope all is well with you and your fam.

  • Carolina Blue

    ???

  • Soda

    I just watched a video of it and the sound it made scared me.

  • SickWidIt2dabone

    This is don't even sound right ?

  • SickWidIt2dabone

    Sad indeed

  • Ms.Caramel

    Google... Could be wrong but this story is not news for some reason.... It should be if it truly happened.

  • Ms.Caramel

    Google

  • B.Sweet Glow-up 2017
  • Renee26

    She was trying to steal!! To donate you drop your items in the lid then push it back up and the items fall in.

  • Renee26

    Except that wasn't a dumpster it was a donation bin and those clothes were going to be resold and the proceeds were supposed to go to a charitable organization... not thrown away

  • KarmaBackAround

    Why was she reaching so far in there, donating doesnt require nothin but the pull of a handle..somethin is not right..

  • Renee26

    Bingo!

  • Renee26

    Hummer??!! Stealing from charity... sounds like Karma showed up quickly

  • MsSincerity

    lol, yeah beige people stay on some other s--t...like why in the hell are you out there at 2:00 in the morning. smdh

  • Renee26

    The comments will not be on the topic of the post please believe ?

  • Renee26

    The comments will not be on the topic of the post please believe ?

  • Renee Bee

    Ouuuuuu! ??

  • Renee Bee

    Ouuuuuu! ??

  • https://twitter.com/Chicagowise Chicagowise

    This reminds me... I was shopping downtown when a young, able-bodied punk asked me for money to "help feed his kids." When I gave him the stank eye, he said, "god don't like ugly." I replied, "Is that why your children have a bum for a father?"

  • pecancandy

    Girl we showl can't. Thank God my peeps safe.

  • LadyFrance

    Another question why in the world was she out there at 2 am!!

  • Ra

    Now, would you be as positive & understanding is she was a Black person?

    I like using these boxes to donate clothes, shoes, and books. It feels good.

  • http://sandrarose.com SandraRose

    Every credible media outlet including the Washington Times reports she was "donating" clothes. http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2017/feb/7/judith-permar-pennsylvania-woman-killed-clothing-d/

  • http://thedevereauxshow.com/ Ms.Devereaux

    She was STEALING from the donation bin! Because if not why did she have a step stool to put clothes in there and why was her arm all the way down in there!!! ? Call a spade a spade ?? She was stealing and didn't need it and was taking from someone who did and Jesus fixed it!

  • http://thedevereauxshow.com/ Ms.Devereaux

    She was STEALING from the donation bin! Because if not why did she have a step stool to put clothes in there and why was her arm all the way down in there!!! ? Call a spade a spade ?? She was stealing and didn't need it and was taking from someone who did and Jesus fixed it!

  • http://thedevereauxshow.com/ Ms.Devereaux

    Where at in NO did this happen

  • http://thedevereauxshow.com/ Ms.Devereaux

    Where at in NO did this happen

  • Branch Davidian

    Try to lend a hand to the unfortunate and see what happens....

  • Branch Davidian

    Try to lend a hand to the unfortunate and see what happens....

  • Oretta Grace Smith

    I know someone had a hummer and motorcycle that lived in a dump, literally!!

  • Oretta Grace Smith

    I know someone had a hummer and motorcycle that lived in a dump, literally!!

  • http://thedevereauxshow.com/ Ms.Devereaux

    Now Sandra ? They wasn't out there her they don't know her intent! And I'm short I don't need no step stool at those bins further you don't have to reach your arm in there. Come on now auntie you know better than that

  • http://thedevereauxshow.com/ Ms.Devereaux

    Whaaaaaaat!!! Hot damn I knew it

  • http://thedevereauxshow.com/ Ms.Devereaux

    Cuz that's how she got the humv she stealing clothes so she didn't have to buy none ?

  • http://thedevereauxshow.com/ Ms.Devereaux

    Ooooooo come through truth I knew what I posted up top was right I didn't even read the comments before posting but my common sense said baaaaaby that lady was stealing

  • http://thedevereauxshow.com/ Ms.Devereaux

    That could have been the one to make it 300

  • nucynu25

    The East

  • http://thedevereauxshow.com/ Ms.Devereaux

    Log off

  • https://twitter.com/Chicagowise Chicagowise

    There's a special place for people who steal from the needy.

  • https://twitter.com/Chicagowise Chicagowise

    They hold on to it until you freeze to death? ?

  • CaliGONECRAZY

    Sandra someone already reported a woman removing bags from the bin, while a black Hummer parked nearby back in November.

  • CaliGONECRAZY

    I just said the same thing SMH. I Didn't see you already corrected Sandra. Lol

  • CaliGONECRAZY

    I just said the same thing SMH. I Didn't see you already corrected Sandra. Lol

  • Lolalao

    I'm thinking that she stole to sell things on letgo or consignment store.

  • Lolalao

    I'm thinking that she stole to sell things on letgo or consignment store.

  • Lolalao

    So she can steal

  • Lolalao

    So she can steal

  • klwbaby

    ??

  • K_

    she was taking things OUT not putting them in

  • Jeanine McNeal

    Because she was taking items out, not donating.

  • CaliGONECRAZY

    Ha ha

  • Tequila Mockingbird

    I too am confused by this story...

  • CaliGONECRAZY

    Maybe it was for the thrill of it. She probably been doing it for years.

  • Rahab

    An old clear lady told me to get a job since I had no change to give her.

  • Christian Fool

    Damn peoples comprehension skills are atrocious.

  • Erica

    Kamra your in a Hummer stealing from a donation box for the needy ok!!

  • Erica

    Comprehension is key she was stealing from the box not donating to it!!

  • KarmaBackAround

    I didnt want to believe she was stealing...but if it look like a duck, and quack like a duck, her ass was stealing lol and it doent appear she was of the less fortunate either...smh

  • scentsychick30

    Wait what she was stealing from the poor? While riding in a hummer ?? this is something you expect to see on a thousand ways to die show.

  • dontgetblocked

    WTF! This would have been a different headline for a black woman. "Woman dies while stealing from donation box" You mean to tell me that this heifer was stealing from the needy ...and spinning off in her black hummer. Poetic justice. She was caught red-handed and came equipped with a ladder at two am like a thief in the night. Wait. She was a thief in the night. Good riddance.

  • We Can Do This

    Cold but true! She should have pulled herself up by her own bootstraps...sarcasm!

  • dontgetblocked

    You my girl and all Auntie, but this lady was clearly stealing. It was during the early morning hours and bags she'd pulled out were laying on the ground. The biased media is covering for this thief.

  • Queen B

    Smh really?! Read in between the lines ? She was stealing

  • Queen B

    God has a way of punishing ppl

  • VanillaCaramel2shotsExpresso

    Sometimes people that are hoarders do stuff like this.... shopaholics too. It's very sad because it is stealing even if she thought the items were donated and free, they were not donated to her for her use.

  • VanillaCaramel2shotsExpresso

    How've about this one ? If there were not clear signs that said do not remove the clothing , or do not stick your arm in, or pictures showing what to do , the family could sue!!!! That's America !

  • VanillaCaramel2shotsExpresso

    How've about this one ? If there were not clear signs that said do not remove the clothing , or do not stick your arm in, or pictures showing what to do , the family could sue!!!! That's America !

  • Anji

    So Sad. When I deposit clothing I don't care who gets what and how much. I often see the receptacles overflowing. People actually sell the clothing and shoes. I'd never want this to be my last pose. Just sad.

  • Anji

    Blessings to you

  • Anji

    The world is desensitized. But I remember too.

  • Anji

    I really didn't want to laugh at this post!!!

  • nucynu25

    ????

  • Empress

    I saw a man standing around the donation bin and I offered him the clothes before putting them in. He ended up with a lot of things. We also buy soap and other toiletries and put them in zip lock bands and hand them out. It's hard out there and we never know when any of us might face hardship. I'm sorry this happened to this lady.

  • nick c

    The homeless are ruthless now I gave one woman a dollar and she said "that's it?" I was like you can give me my dollar back if ain't enough damn lol.

  • nick c

    My favorite is can you go to an atm machine. I wouldnt go to an atm machine if you had a gun fool.

  • nick c

    These bins are getting crazy you see the new snack machines? Damn thing about take your arm off reaching for my chips lol.

  • nick c

    They gonna sue whoever made that bin

  • nick c

    FYI these anti theft machines are getting crazy you seen the new snack machines? When I push it open to grad my chips a lever forces my hand down where I can barely grab my Doretos and then starts to slam as I pull the chips practically crushing my bag.

  • Allihave2say

    I guess she got caught red handed.

  • Antigone Heart

    The article or write up above states that Permar was removing bags from the donation bin and that previous [police] reports were made for an unidentified person (matching vehicle/same action) removing donated items.

    Have you reviewed an article or resource that states otherwise?

    R.I.P. to Permar.

  • Queens2017

    My mom's old saying"What you do in the dark will come to light".

  • Victoria Fathom

    She was STEALING!

  • Mrs Mary

    Exactly and that explains the time of night she was out doing it too.

  • ??LordHell2TheNaw??

    You are a good person!?

  • NYTimes#1Bestseller

    Yess

  • Mister Fantastic

    Mayne that's cold blooded...

  • Oretta Grace Smith

    And of course the cops going to report what they THINK, but they DONT know. She could had been doing something else. Which is probably what she was doing and got caught. Reporting the truth is not about race!!! Wrong is wrong!

  • Oretta Grace Smith

    They can't explain that!!!

  • Jussjess25

    How sad.. maybe she really needed those clothes who knows ? Rip

  • Oretta Grace Smith

    Then maybe she didn't!! Stealing was not the way. RIP!!

  • Ms.Caramel

    And you are not. I seeeeee yooooou.. I saw your font from the beginning and knew something was up but yesterday I knew for sure. No matter how hard you try, You'll never be one of us. Even your font is trash. And "Shole" is not a word asshole!

  • Jussjess25

    Who said she was stealing?? Maybe she dropped something in that belonged to her and was trying to retrieve it!? And even if she were stealing did she deserve to die a horrible death because of it ??

  • Oretta Grace Smith

    In reading the above story, they stated bags were found on the outside from the bin, if you read with comprehension, FACT! I didn't state that was a reason to die. That's why I stated RIP. But she did die in the process, FACT!!!

  • Rhyme and Reason

    It is a big trend for some, sad outcome!

  • Rhyme and Reason

    You're right, it did say the local police stated she was fishing bags out, and the ladder gave way. Maybe, where she lived was really nice, or that bin got some stuff in!

  • Oretta Grace Smith

    Thank you, so true!!!

  • Oretta Grace Smith

    Thank you!!

  • Oretta Grace Smith

    Why is that so hard for most of the readers to understand? It's in the article several times!!

  • Oretta Grace Smith

    Well damn!!!

  • Oretta Grace Smith

    But she didn't give you that, sad indeed!!

  • Oretta Grace Smith

    I would ask them, can you go!!!

  • Oretta Grace Smith

    Thank you!! They stated in the article that they found the bags pulled from the bin.

  • Oretta Grace Smith

    They printed the correct story above. They had printed another one about this earlier that they said was incorrect.

  • Oretta Grace Smith

    Could have!!

  • Oretta Grace Smith

    That's not stated in the above story!! They have how bags were pulled from the bin.

  • Oretta Grace Smith

    But stealing is stealing!!

  • Oretta Grace Smith

    Thank you!!!

  • Oretta Grace Smith

    Probably the same reason someone without a hummer would steal!!

  • Oretta Grace Smith

    And got away with it. They stated above someone saw someone PULLING bags from the bin in November With a BLACK HUMMER!!!

  • Oretta Grace Smith

    But it is what it is, dead or alive!!!

  • Oretta Grace Smith

    Most family people make their relatives amazing during death and they hadn't seen them in years, DON'T know them, or fight like cats and dogs!! And look how everybody knows how she died!!

  • Oretta Grace Smith

    That is what the story stated.

  • roachburn

    (kevin Hart bitter black women voice) A hummer? reallllllly?

  • the guest

    This woman is a classic example of upper class housewives that have compulsive disorders from boredom and discontentment with their apparently perfect lives.

    They act out their compulsions through chronic shopping and returning, secret affairs, petty shoplifting, selling cheap crap on eBay, etc. While they do gutter things there are dead giveaways to their real status such as driving a luxury car, double digit carat wedding ring sets, signature bags as they're slumming it to fulfill their compulsions.

    Sounds like this bored compulsive housewife was stealing clothing from donation boxes to either resell on eBay (upper class housewives live to sell stuff on eBay) for the thrill of earning money she didn't need or she was stealing the donated clothing to re-donate to her choice of charity to feel saintly and important in her community.

  • the guest

    She didn't need the clothes. Some people do steal from donation boxes and not because they are poor either. They do it for the sheer thrill of getting something for nothing. This was a tragic accident. I wish someone would have noticed or heard her.

  • the guest

    LOL

  • the guest

    Donation boxes are big business. People deposit designer clothing and scavengers steal and resell the items.

  • https://twitter.com/Chicagowise Chicagowise

    Sometimes, when I see someone approaching me on the street, I yell, "You gotta dollar!" Stops them dead in their tracks! ?

  • https://twitter.com/Chicagowise Chicagowise

    If someone said that to me, I might shoot them. Sounds like attempted kidnapping and robbery to me. ?

  • the guest

    She was an upper class suburban housewife crook. She never aroused suspicion from law enforcement when stealing from the bins because she was white, upper class, driving a hummer. She knew it looked like she was donating.

  • Oliver Brady

    Oh ok. I opt not to read the write up at times simply because it's a tragic story.

  • Oliver Brady

    Thanks. I don't read the write up sometimes. The headline tells me enough. I don't need details. I see the story does say she was retrieving not donating. Now it makes sense.

  • Ro

    why would a upper class women be fishing for used clothes? SAD

  • We Can Do This

    You left out drug use as a means to deal with boredom.

  • http://batman-news.com Roderick2011

    The Washington (Moonie) Times is NOT a credible news source.
    Just use your brain-why would someone wait until the wee hours of the morning to donate clothes?

    Why not do it during the day.
    Wouldn't a woman who was there alone and in the dark be afraid of being assaulted?
    Unless she thought that getting some free clothes was worth the risk?

  • http://batman-news.com Roderick2011

    It was just a generic phrase.

  • the guest

    Word. Yes, they are also secret prescription pill addicts driving their hummers and benzes into the hood to buy drugs.

  • the guest

    Evil lol

  • the guest

    Evil lol

  • Mr. LeBrick James

    Many rich people are notoriously cheap.

  • Mr. LeBrick James

    ...not to mention the ones compulsively getting repeated plastic surgeries to stay attractive to their wealthy ( and often cheating) spouses. A lot of these women just live empty lives. Sad.

  • Simple_humbleMe

    that is how they stay rich

  • HoneyyGoodMoneyy_

    really sad.... but. girl.

  • Tynamight

    Judith Permar, 56, died after her arm was trapped while she was reportedly removing bags of clothing from a donation box near her home.
    ***
    Wow! May she RIP.

  • Ms.Caramel

    Yes, very frugal. Maybe that's why they are rich...lol

  • ThisHarryHere

    i giggled...

  • blackbutter63

    I told a homeless person, I only had a debit card and he told me to go to the ATM. I told him you better get the hell on, before you get a foot up your behind. The nerve!

  • Seek Truth Speak Truth

    I have nothing nice to say so.... Good Morning Everyone. Give thanks for life!

  • BellaT

    who goes out at 2am in the cold to steal clothes? or maybe she didnt want her friends knowing that she wears second hand clothes...

  • Queen of EVERYTHING

    Or eBay... I go to Goodwill on the weekends and resell on eBay as a hobby. Purchased a Burberry Nova check skirt for $4 last Friday and resold it this Tuesday for $85... I'm very picky tho, only shop for designer stuff, vintage fur, 100% silk and cashmere, and non-american designer vintage couture. I am BAFFLED regularly at the top shelf stuff that folks donate to Goodwill. I LOVE shopping, but I had to embrace a way that I could do it without adding to my own (ridiculously large) personal collection.

  • stanhope

    Thanks for your support!

  • yallcrazy

    Sad way to go. She probably was trying to help her daughter out. You be surprised at how many grandparents be going over the call of duty to take care of their grandkids. Momma probably still in the streets and getting high smh

  • Unita Lucinda “Lucy” Freebush

    I posted a few months back about this, passing out items in ziplock bags. It's really easy to put everything in one bag, especially when blankets are included in the packs. Ziplock has storage bags big enough for clothes and blankets. Plus, it keeps all the items dry, being that most of the donations go out to those in the elements.

    One of the things I have found that helps my mission here is donations from some of the larger companies and extreme couponers. They've been a big help.

    Keep up the good work. You are appreciated. ??

  • KarmaBackAround

    thank u ..cause a few folks apparently thought I was crazy for a moment ..I knew something had changed from the original post

  • Fleur Rebel

    ???????????

  • SunRiseBlossom

    You said a mouthful!!!

  • Rahab

    Ha! The nerve and my own get very upset with no. I see you daily and you ask eazh day. No, with a smile. Nothing on your vices Debo.

  • Oretta Grace Smith

    So called upper class people commit crimes every day, some worse than this!!! Just because one has a hummer does not mean they are upper class. Probably how she got the hummer. I knew one man had a hummer and house was a dump!!!

  • Oretta Grace Smith

    Thank you!!

  • ?Patty Kakes?

    So sad. God bless her

  • Branch Davidian

    You missed the joke...my bad. Lend a hand..arm..whatever. Cash me outside...how bout dah??

  • charallday

    Thats iiiiittt!

  • Ms Thang

    My sons aunt used to hit up those boxes at night and have a yard sale

  • charallday

    What??? Wow

  • Cici

    That's how they keep their money.

  • S. Williams

    I got your joke lol I chuckled

  • Alexa DuChampignon

    We're all waiting for your arm to get stuck in a clothing donation bin.

  • BellaT

    ya some second hand clothes are good buys...especially if you go to the donation boxes in a rich neighbourhood..

  • Zeta Phi Beta 1920

    WOW!
    Driving a Hummer & stealing from the donation bin OR was she trying to find something she "accidentally" placed i the bin...................................

  • Zeta Phi Beta 1920

    Dont put Jesus in the middle of this.
    Her daddy satan told her to do it & then flipped on her.

  • http://batman-news.com Roderick2011

    I would have snatched it back.
    B!tch, bye!!!!

  • http://batman-news.com Roderick2011

    That's why they are rich I meant wealthy.

    Too many people go broke tying to look rich by buying expensive clothes and pushing a Mercedes or BMW or Audi, but they have maxed out credit cards and nothing in savings.

  • http://batman-news.com Roderick2011

    "Clear"
    Ha,ha,ha!!

  • stanley

    Ain't God a wonderful God? She was stealing from the needy and got killed. That's what happen to thieves

  • KLo

    ROFLMFAO!!!!

  • AListDiva29

    She supposedly was a nurse and just got off her shift.

  • AListDiva29

    She was supposedly a nurse and just got off her shift and then went there, so obviously not a housewife.

  • AListDiva29

    I live in PA seen this on our local news, I think it said she was a nurse and just left work.

  • Carmen

    I'm so confused. She has a hummer and gas to waste, but is stealing clothes?

  • Jimson

    This is very sad. However, people need to stop being so greedy about getting stuff to re-sell. There is a "re-selling" craze going on these days with the advent of online forums like ebay and amazon. I've had people come to my garage sales and steal things, but also try to convince me that the stuff I'm selling is worthless and that I should just give it to them. Sadly, I know they are trying to re-sell. There was also a woman in my area recently, caught red-handed stealing items that were left outside of a donation bin for a children's charity. She was driving an expensive car.

  • Jimson

    How do you know her grandchildren's mother is on drugs? Seriously? Do you know these people? Probably not.

  • yallcrazy

    None of us do. Now go and reply to everybody that commented anything on the article.

  • Jimson

    There are intelligent comments here, and there are dumb ones.

  • Jimson

    The guest, you are so right! Getting any kind of job, is better than living this way - stealing stuff to re-sell, chronic shopping and returning items, etc. These ladies just need to get a job. And real work, not some MLM scam business like Premier Jewelry or Mary Kay.

  • VanillaCaramel2shotsExpresso

    She was stealing it.... she was doing it in the wee hours of the morning too so she knew it was stealing . There must have been some shame there ..once that ladder gave way she must have panicked and felt so ashamed . I hope she asked for forgiveness and made peace. Maybe she thought someone would find her. I feel sorry for her family. They may have tried to stop her but dealing with shopaholics or hoarders are hard , they are crazy!

  • yallcrazy

    And I see yours is one of them. Arguing with folks over a dayum blog. Its just opinions so calm down. 100 people on here called her a rich thief. Not knowing what year her truck is.

  • Real Name

    The article said she was removing clothing from the bin and it was reported that someone was stealing clothes from the bin. Her arm got stuck because she was trying to take out the bags of clothes. She wasn't trying to out them in the bin she was taking them out.

  • VanillaCaramel2shotsExpresso

    She was stealing ... even if she didn't feel she was because it was donated ..... technically it was donated to her. She wasn't supposed to collect it. Very sad....

  • VanillaCaramel2shotsExpresso

    She may have been giving them to the needy and doing something good with them but she should have done this in another way. Sometimes people think people shouldn't donate to these bins . That the clothes go to unworthy people or they are sold instead of donated to charity. They will often take the clothes out to rescue them, I thought she was a hoarder but she maybe a clothes rescuer and may have been taking the stuff to make sure it was really be donating to what she really thought was a worthy charity . I pray she wasn't just stealing it and keeping it for herself and hoarding it.

  • TheWildChild

    Exactly ??? At 2a.m. In the morning ....strange

  • Jussjess25

    Your right.. but a sad accident nonetheless

  • Steve

    Damn this is like the twilight zone "a thing about machines". This one ought to be dubbed "charity bin hungry for donors".

  • MsSlayla

    Karma...stealing from the homeless tho...

  • Mints

    Sounds like #112 off of "1000 ways to die."
    Where is this donation box located? It must be in the woods or something. How was she stuck for 6 hours but no one noticed?

  • The Last Word

    Well, we do know-the last year for Hummers either 2009 or 2010. So she was driving a vehicle at least 7 years old.

  • yallcrazy

    Well it started in 92 and we don't know what year she had

  • yallcrazy

    And even if she had the latest year it damn show wouldn't make her rich

  • Unita Lucinda “Lucy” Freebush

    I will rejoice and be glad.

  • Oretta Grace Smith

    And it looks like she did it in November and was led to believe she got away with it. That is why it was probably easy to try it again!!

  • GhettoRanger

    Who the hell wants to donate clothes in a man trap........then again......?

  • http://plenty.com EfEeZy…..

    Get em

  • Palle Runquist

    Steal 100 pieces of clothing every day; sell them at a flea market $5/piece -> profit.

  • Carmen

    terrible business plan.