If you’re looking for Jay-Z‘s 13th album to make the Billboard Top 200 Albums list, you have a long wait. Apparently numbers do lie.

Despite going platinum in the first week, Jay-Z’s album 4:44 has not appeared anywhere on the Billboard Top 200 Albums list.

That’s because neither Jay-Z nor Sprint, which provided free downloads to TIDAL subscribers, have provided the actual number of units sold or even given away for free.

Hits Daily Double theorizes that the actual download numbers are made up out of thin air.

“We reach this conclusion in part because those streams have not been reported, and also because Tidal’s entire subscriber base would have to have streamed the album once every hour since release to get to 1.5 billion streams, which is platinum SEA.

“Per RIAA rules, a sale counts toward certification even if purchased by a business and offered to fans who must take steps to acquire it.”

 
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Apparently Jay-Z used his substantial clout with the RIAA to get his project certified platinum — even though he has no actual numbers to show.

That is probably why RIAA’s Cary Sherman already had a platinum plaque ready to present to Jay-Z whether 4:44 went platinum or not.

Jay-Z has pulled this sort of trickery before with his Magna Carta Holy Grail album in 2013.

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  • Diva_woman

    I’ve been listening to it and I know a lot of others have. I don’t think these numbers mean much anymore, chance the rapper has shown us that.

  • jeniefrumdabloc™

    Good Jay embracing his emotions …. But please believe I see straight through this ploy for milking the masses chile … Miss me with this shyt …. I won’t support …. Nerp like ever …. Using emotional situations to manipulate people to stay on top…. Chile bye …

  • sunni_daze

    It was more than that on the album actually.

  • Blaque Mahogany

    I don’t listen to his music, but from what I have heard this album is more conscious/cerebral. It’s interesting to me considering his previous stance on publicly throwing his notoriety/fame behind black causes. I guess being a conscious rapper is “in” now. Hunh?

  • Please Stop The Madness

    I noticed it was missing from Billboard on Friday.

    Meanwhile some of the ones he supposedly allegedly “called out” about money phones are there.

  • MsVAllDay

    Oh but it was cool when Beyonce did it right????

  • MsVAllDay

    It has also been released in apple music b/c my daughter and all of her friends are listening to it.

  • stav

    Personally I didn’t listen to her album either, it was an obvious set up for her husband to respond to her accusations from her own album. Nothing but a marketing ploy! Here these people pretend to be so guarded and private to airing out all their business, I was never buying it and wouldn’t!

  • jeniefrumdabloc™

    people are becoming more conscious …. Jay is a smart guy…. He figures rap about conciouseness because that will keep me in the game even longer but he don’t know… Consciousnes is across the board in other words folks ain’t sleep no more …. Ninja you ain’t da only person dealing cheating and addictions ….. He is using these experiences to manipulate people into keeping his income flowing….

  • Please Stop The Madness

    Not sure what it showed bc Chance was on the list, still on the list (its way down there since Coloring Book is old now, but it is still indeed on the list) and was first to do it via streaming.

    http://www.billboard.com/articles/columns/chart-beat/7378361/chance-the-rapper-coloring-book-first-streaming-exclusive

    Mr. Carter could just release his numbers.

  • jeniefrumdabloc™

    chile they both fake and full of shyt … but the topic is Jay right now… Bey helping this Ninja manipulate the masses …

  • Diva_woman

    Chance doesn’t sell his music but is still successful. Before billboard was paying attention to him he was already doing numbers. They still don’t even have the full picture and he is ok with that because he’s doing things his way. The point is those awards and chart standings don’t mean much anymore.

  • Mec-One

    Billboard is no longer needed. Nobody checks for a record billboard position to decide if it’s worth buying. Just another company built off of artist hard work

  • Realhiphopsearch

    Worth buying
    Or did 1,000,000 people actually buy the album is two different things
    Billboard tallies who bought the album

  • Mec-One

    Yes. ….. social media is doing more for these artists of a records popularity than billboard can

  • hotntot95

    People seem so pressed about someone else’s success/failure..we all have the exact same 24 hours to do almost anything..and it’s not just about selling songs…this mindset is everywhere..we are so lost as a people…

  • Mec-One

    I thought they just count streams not purchase …… regardless, they’re still no use to the artists. Especially when social media is a better conduit than billboard

  • Mr.LeBrickJames

    Yup. Seems like he came real late to the party.

  • Bossy704

    I have never been into Jay Z unless he was rapping with Beyoncé or Jermaine Dupri. New York rappers talk too much. I just want to dance.

  • denise divva

    100% Correct

  • Bam Bam Li

    Thank you!!! I’m glad there are a few seeing through this smh

  • denise divva

    They both probably get good laughs from the idiots that is keeping them relevant….

  • disqus_FW7pCIigCY

    My people are Crabs in a Barrel…. I’ve never seen so many Black folk that want to see another Black man fail… who cares about the numbers he’s almost 50 years old and he still can Rap circles around these dumb artist and all the little non talented boys in the music Industry call rappers. If it’s not Platinum now it will be and if it’s not who cares… I still wish the brother from the dirty streets who turned himself around and became a legitimate self made business man nothing but positive vibes, he’s trying to tell these dumb artist what not to do, he’s made mistakes but he’s saying hey brothers don’t follow the bad mistakes I’ve made, this is what you do in this business…. and Black folk only want to talk about how he cheated…, Lawd Lawd Lawd???

  • soujourn_erets

    Jay Z is poison to our community.

  • disqus_FW7pCIigCY

    Yesyesyesyesyes…. Crabs in a Barrel!!!!!!!! ?

  • jeniefrumdabloc™

    jokes actually on them though …. Shid us common folks don’t Give a fawk … Again we got real life shyt we dealing with…. This is classic manipulation …. And instead of truly healing their personal relationship … Let’s just continue to make money off of it…. These two are extremely material … Not good in the world we are moving towards

  • jeniefrumdabloc™

    More than a few …. Folks know their MO ….

  • Morgan Lee

    I agree 100%. I don’t understand why we are supposed to support him. He’s arrogant, blasphemous and couldn’t give 2 craps about black people or white people or anybody else. The rich only cares about getting richer. He’s not someone to admire, imo.

  • soujourn_erets

    Forreal. And, it’s not only him. The music industry satanic. He spent his career spewing vomit and now he tell us about keeping a good credit score and we think he’s a genius? People are blind.

    https://youtu.be/9mG_6oKXu-E

  • BacktolurkingIgo

    I listened to it and liked it he’s a smart businessman and his wife a smart businesswoman as they had the people talking. Billboard chart or not he got his coins.

  • Nakia Brown

    then listen to dance music. Rap IS talking.

  • disqus_FW7pCIigCY

    Oh okay well just ignore the Drugs, the Guns and the lack of Positive Black Male Fathers in the household, unemployment, or the lack of education or the millions of fatherless kids, or our crooked political system, don’t blame all the girlie male rappers that “your” sons are listening to and coping… how many women dressed their sons in tight short pants in no socks for prom because of these new “so-called feminine acting male Rap artist”……. we’ll just Blame JAY-Z for poisoning our community’s not the government …we won’t even blame ourselves…, just JAY-Z????

  • Kanyade

    So now numbers mean nothing…>BILLBOARD< means nothing? Word?

    Things have changed. Anybody remember the Billboard magazines from back in the day? About 50 foot long and bi-fold? May Dad used to read Billboard religiously. It's a trade publication that's been credible for years, but now it is no biggie? Do we value nothing anymore? Especially when that nothing doesn't benefit us? Hmm…

    I hate to see good periodicals die. Or be discredited. RIP Newsweek and by the way some are talking soon-to-be RIP to Billboard.

  • imright

    thats what rapping is B ?

  • soujourn_erets

    Its systematic oppression. He’s just playing his part. And, I don’t have children – I wish.

  • hotntot95

    Yes!.and..i’m tired of it…I’m not tolerating that small mindedness around me. Pick yourself up and do better.

  • abby500

    I used to subscribe to it in the 80’s. It was BIBLE! Now, you’re right….numbers mean nothing and PR stunts are rampant.

  • abby500

    It’s ok…everyone isn’t for everybody. If he sold at a platinum status, obviously she has millions who are not “crabs” and support him.

  • Benjamin

    That’s because they’re not happy with themselves,..they’re miserable, and misery loves company.

  • Benjamin

    Exactly.

  • Karen Brady

    YES!!!!!! THIS!!!!!! ALL OF THIS!!

  • Cie Be

    Ooooooowee, you hitting it where it hurts @jeniefrumdabloc:disqus ….but, you speak the truth and nothing but the truth! Folks been cheated on, and a whole lots mo’….this ain’t nothing to get your panties wet about….and although I’m for getting your money….Jay & Bey straight playing those who are sleep, like a fiddler! NOT Eye! Peace.

  • Cie Be

    @msvallday:disqus – Guuurl, say that! But, my question is For Why?? It seems two-faced to perceive to be private, and in the same breath both Bey & Jay singing/rapping about how he cheated and Jay admitting to the public, like he owes folks an explanation, purleeeez ….like for real, really? Tell it to the judge!!

  • Enoughsaid2020

    That just means, he is winning. No one really cares about Billboard Awards Charts. SMH!

  • pure_rachet

    I only heard one song on Sirius talking about a field nig/ house nig. TOTAL TRASH. I won’t be listening.

  • Karen Brady

    Laughing alllllllllllll the way to the bank.

  • jeniefrumdabloc™

    Amen …??

  • country57

    I to miss a lot of the good periodicals. Telling my age. :):)

  • Cie Be

    Hey Benjamin, I don’t think people are unhappy or miserable with their lives…for the most part it’s more like Beyonce & Jay Z are forced fed on ya’…..hell, I don’t listen to much hip hop, or rap…but, every social media I’m connected with are talking about Beyonce & Jay Z; damn, I just want to hear positive things, but, nah, the whole radio & television outlets talking about Jay Z cheating ways…..like, where can you run from this madness! js.

  • Phyllis

    Downloaded the album last week , and it didn’t disappoint at All…
    I must say Every Song was Nice. ????????????

  • Mbailey

    JAYZ and Beyawnce took off their masks a long time ago. Baphomet is ruling them. Anybody not into worshiping mere humans for their secksual performances or constant nword spewing, leaves people who follow them and accept everything they do and every lie they tell, angry with the rest of us not “bowing down,” Getting into Formation, Watching the Throne, or “kinging and queening” them, while throwing up Baphomet signs and wearing Baphomet clothing and accessories.

  • Ryan

    I miss The Source and Slam.

  • toni walker

    Jay z cares about white people they are the ones buying and listening to rap music!

  • Li

    Back in the day, Billboard could actually count and know the exact number of sales esp. when they linked to the cash registers, which sent the information in to them. Nowadays there’s no way to know how many of these CDs/Songs sell because of digital downloads, and the fact that most artists don’t release a physical copy.
    It’s all made up as far as I’m concerned.

  • Li

    JZ imo is in a whole lot of hot water he needs to get out of. Tidal didn’t turn out to be the success he expected (he sued the company), his artists (Kanye) aren’t happy. He lost the Prince music….so from what I read, Tidal isn’t the pot of gold. Or why else would he sign w/ the concert agency (Jam?) to tour for the next 20 years!!!! Something aint right. At this point in his life, he should be sitting back, being businessman, not age-old rapper/performer. How many 50ish rappers do you see touring?

  • BacktolurkingIgo

    Tidal was not what he expected but he still has the Purple ones music. I’d trade his bank account for mine immechedly.

  • Dane

    Most of them at some time or another, actually. And I see any of them anytime that I can!

  • interestingconcept1

    nobody wants to hear a grown a man who was nearly over a decade older than his child bride moan about his ego. Really. Bored with the whole concept. Because that’s all this is.

  • nick c

    You crazy that album trash

  • Wayup!

    Exactly…I have Tidal… Listened to the album…3 songs I like…???.. It’s not all that people.. Why ninjas in the hood memorized by this album I can’t call.. except for branding what’s the big deal… Oh.. That’s right it’s Jz and he married to Beyonce?

  • Wayup!

    Trash???emmmmm..??iono…?
    But I tell you this much it was repetitive as He!!… SUM of the beats cool.. Alright Imma keep it all the way funky..I only like 1 song… Think it’s called BAM? Jake beat reminded me of Drake tho… anywho,,??

  • Wayup!

    My Uber driver tried to make me see the “Jz light”.. According to him he the best because he sold out an arena in 20min..? I was like SOOOOO… And how does that translat dollars for U..??
    he couldn’t answer me… He was a
    old head too and he was extremely concerned that I wasn’t placing Jz on a pedestal in my mind!!!
    I’m like isn’t subscribing to Tidal enough?..da#n.. The amount of idol worship…

  • Benjamin

    Hi Cie. For the most part, Bey and Jay are force fed because they’re both amazing artist. I say if an individual doesn’t like them, by pass that article. I do the same for celebrities I don’t like.

  • Wayup!

    Emmmmm…..??

  • Wayup!

    10 years to be exact..

  • Benjamin

    Are you tired? You should get some rest.

  • U gon learn today

    You are an idiot.
    That is all.
    Now put your tin foil hat back on and go fetch a You Tube propaganda video posted by “Issa Conspeeracee”about how there are alien life forms living in your salad.

  • soujourn_erets

    ????? you do not make any sense.

  • U gon learn today

    And you do not make any cents.

  • soujourn_erets

    Right

  • U gon learn today

    Left.

  • Cie Be

    @Benjamin, that’s nice you find this type of amusement to be amazing, however; go back and read my comment…this time try reading it slowly….l never stated I read any of the article’s about the Carter’s that came across my feed….I Repeat…Forced Fed with BIG BOLD headlines that can’t be missed, even with blindfolds on! Now run along and continue listening to your amazing artists!

  • U gon learn today

    Lol, fools love trying to sound all deep like they know some thangs by using the words systematic and oppression. Hahahaha. All of you sound like a bunch of paranoid schitzo ignoids who talk like Bubba Gump while walking about barefooted on a real live plantation.

  • U gon learn today

    So is fried chicken and chitlins but that doesn’t stop you at all.

  • soujourn_erets

    I don’t eat that chitilins mess. That’s unclean ac to scriptures

  • soujourn_erets

    Dude, you’re trying so hard. If you think that the words systematic and oppression are deep words, then you have a lot of catching up to do. lol. Just give it up

  • Benjamin

    Wait first of all, why are you going off, we’re both adults having a conversation. I didn’t give you an attitude, so you need to relax.

    That being said, I was speaking in general terms of articles regarding the Carters, where people who don’t like them, come into that said article to spew unnecessary hate. As for those “BIG BOLD headlines”, they’re popular artist, so its something that’s inevitable, and it’s up to that individual to ignore it, bold print or not,..it’s not that serious.

  • U gon learn today

    Lol. You seem like you are actually one one of the “masses…everybody else is enjoying music. I really don’t get fools who can’t separate the entertainment factor like why do you feel you are being manipulated? Since when has it ever been wrong for any artist to reflect on their life thru their music? What is it that Jay and Beyonce are going that is so wrong or any different than what The Temptations did, Marvin Gaye, Jodeci, Mary J, Garth Brooks, and literally every artist in the history of music has done–use aspects of their life to make music? How is what Jayzs lyrics any different today when he has always been rapping about his life and things he goes thru? If his music is manipulative, then what isn’t? Weekly episodes of Scandal? Or Power? Empire? Love and Hip Hop? The Family Guy??? Like what???

  • Phyllis

    Let’s agree to disagree . ??

  • U gon learn today

    Lol, so Sandra Rose and all of these blogs make it their business to keep Jayz and Beyonces name in their headlines because it’s good for business…yet you are mad at the Carters and not the blogs??? It’s ironic that all of you fools are accusing people of manipulation, all while being manipulated and you don’t even see the ploys used by this blogs to keep you clicking. You act like you don’t have the free will to simply skip over any Beyz related stories crying about how they are being forced on you. When the truth is you have no control over self. Too nosy and you just gotta know what everybody else is saying, lol.

  • Oretta Grace Smith

    Jay-Z is confessing so much about his marriage and cheating all of a sudden. I just hope he is not sick, or the women got solid proof and going to come out, or he fathered 10 children while being marriage to Beyonce. And I LOVE me some Jay-Z!!! Wishing them the best!!!

  • Oretta Grace Smith

    No, Jay-Z is talking about his marriage more. It’s probably therapy for him, which is good!!!

  • Oretta Grace Smith

    Jay-Z said he can fry chicken with the kitchen closed, LMBO!!!

  • jeniefrumdabloc™

    Bye …. ?

  • Kanyade

    I miss VIBE when VIBE was in print and GOOD.

  • Kanyade

    “he the best because he sold out an arena in 20min” <— see that's the rhetoric that abounds these days. numbers, numbers, and numbers. why are FANS concerned about numbers? what do numbers have to do with the fan who loves the art?

    my dad was a deejay. he read billboard to be introduced to new artists (and also to know what to play at his gigs–to know what was popular). he never cared about michael jackson selling out countries. his concern was what music is hot? what are the kids listening to? what are the oldheads listening to? how can i make my tapes so that the whole family can jam at the reunion or the riders at the trail rides or the baseball league at the community park in summer?

    if the music is good it will abound. no one should care about numbers except the employee and the employer.

    just my opinion.

  • Wayup!

    Thank you..a common sense comment.!!!!… Why are grown adults cheerleading these entertainers.. I like some Jz music but I be a monkeys A$$$ to big him up all the time like I’m on his personal media& marketing team..?

  • Dowoop

    The “dumb artist and all the little non talented boys in the music Industry call rappers” are still primarily black individuals that you just put down.

  • Ryan

    Yes ma’am!! Vibe was LIT back in the day.

  • Cie Be

    ^^^ Did I say I was mad at the Carter’s? You gave a long drawn out speech about nothing… FYI, it’s my social media account, so, yea, I read Headlines not in depth shyt about Bey & Jay Z .. Besides, you sound delusional or you are in denial: delusional for saying things that folks didn’t write, “manipulation” ??? How did you pull that out of my comment? I suggest you come out of denial, because the real nosy one is Y.O.U., dipping in my business! Now read my comment again and try to discern what I was saying….then read between the lines, you may discover that’s exactly who I was referring too, the blogs are forced feeding that bs. Now you can laugh!

  • @cpolk

    I am so over him and his wife, but they so addicted to fame, people want them hoe Kardashians gone Jay and Bey catch that train

  • Sircaput

    I noticed all these ones talking crap about Jay has no profile picture by their name, y’all stop falling for this ish that is trying to bait you to stir up something. That Jay album is fire..nuff said.

  • disqus_FW7pCIigCY

    You sound silly what does a pic have to do with anything.., I can put your pic by name, your family members pic.. how do we know your pic is real… grow up????

  • Sircaput

    ummm, I was on your side. What I was trying to say is many of the ones in here talking bad are just here to stir up stuff and get a negative reaction out of folks….smh

  • disqus_FW7pCIigCY

    You’re correct Jay is a authentic rapper who always puts out good music and even at 50 years old No young rapper today Can compete with him and experience the longevity that he has…. but you can’t equate the lac of pics to tell if people comments are legitimate or not.