New policy reverses former President Obama's controversial policy allowing gender confused men to shower with female soldiers

Female soldier and toddler

President Trump announced the military will no longer "accept or allow" gender confused people to serve in the U.S. military "in any capacity". The new policy does not ban gays or lesbians from serving their country.

In a series of tweets on Wednesday, Trump said American forces could not afford to accommodate" transgender people and their expensive medical needs.

“After consultation with my generals and military experts, please be advised that the United States government will not accept or allow transgender individuals to serve in any capacity in the U.S. military,” Mr. Trump wrote. “Our military must be focused on decisive and overwhelming victory and cannot be burdened with the tremendous medical costs and disruption that transgender in the military would entail.”

Trump's common sense policy reverses former President Obama's controversial policy allowing gender confused individuals to serve openly in the military.

Female soldiers were instructed to tolerate men in showers to build “dignity and respect” for “transgender Soldiers."

Obama's controversial policy resulted in thousands of young people changing their minds about serving in the military.

The news comes less than a week after members of the House voted to allow funding for sex change operations and lifelong hormone treatments for transgender soldiers -- surgeries that could cost Pentagon over $1 billion.

The amendment to ban sex change funding in the military failed by a vote of 209-214, with 24 Republicans breaking ranks to allow the funding.

Critics argued that the preferential treatment given to trans soldiers was unfair to other soldiers who are disqualified from serving in the military if they are diagnosed with diabetes or mental disorders such as anxiety or depression.

On June 30, Defense Secretary James Mattis postponed full implementation of Obama's policy for six months while the Pentagon "studies" its effect on military morale.

There are currently 15,000 gender confused soldiers serving in the military. They will soon receive honorable discharges.

Trump tweets

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  • Guess Who

    I wonder how all those trannies who voted for this turd are feeling right about now...

  • Str8tUpMenace

    All this overgrown oompa loompa wants to do is reverse everything that Obama put into place. Nothing more, nothing less.

  • JV

    "Critics argued that the preferential treatment given to trans soldiers was unfair to other soldiers who are disqualified from serving in the military if they are diagnosed with diabetes or mental disorders such as anxiety or depression."
    --------
    Well, I didn't hear Trump complaining about special treatment when he got out of military service with bone spurs. If dressing like a woman was banned in the military back then, Trump would be like
    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/9a8f81af6495e14c459f46ddcbf0159158f329423adc94d6b8b6ba652c12d155.jpg
    SORRYITHINKIMAWOMANCANTSERVE

  • Yardgirl

    Exactly!!!!

  • imright

    well ?????

  • Yardgirl

    This whole week has been filled with seeing this lunatic at events crowing about what a great job he has done so far. Plus bash President Obama, let's not forget that!! All this while the rest of the world watch him bash his own Repukeblicans that opposes him!! Sessions was great until he angered him, now is all about bashing Sessions and plotting a way to get rid of him. This fucktard is lying about everything, while our enemies are creating missiles ready to aim at the US. We are doomed for the next 4 years.

  • https://twitter.com/Chicagowise Chicagowise

    "President Trump announced the military will no longer “accept or allow” gender confused people to serve in the U.S. military “in any capacity”. The new policy does not ban gays or lesbians from serving their country."

    According to the trannies, they aren't gay. So, there goes their last hope. ?

  • jeniefrumdabloc™

    just wow ..... Got nothing .... For those that are discharged .... Go with a organization that appreciates you for who you are not by how you look... SMH just wow

  • jeniefrumdabloc™

    Try it will back fire let them have fun....

  • https://twitter.com/Chicagowise Chicagowise

    Did you know that hospitals have forms that ask patients if they'd like to be identified as male or female? Madness!

  • Phillybruh

    Those that will be discharged are going to get a 100% service connection and up to 3,000 a month and health insurance that you all cheering will have to pay for.

  • Ro

    As much as i CANT STAND THAT MAN...I respect this bill.

  • Kanyade

    LOL

  • Please Stop The Madness

    His administration is falling apart DAILY and THIS is what he thinking about? FOH

  • Luv Pitties

    A dishonorable discharge would fix that but I don't think he has the grounds or support to do that.

  • Kanyade

    I believe it.

    Personally, I wouldn't want that to be MY legacy as President.

  • Joi Calloway

    I in no way like Trump but this bill I agree with. I hope he also makes a bill about trannies lying to people and come up with a bill that punishes the trannies for lying. This has got to stop, all the pretend I crap!

  • Joi Calloway

    Talk about confused. A person is attracted to the same sex, but because they like to pretend to be the opposite sex they are not gay!???? Wow mental illness is real!

  • hotntot95
  • MsVAllDay

    This is the first time I can honestly say I agree with this guy. We have bigger priorities and other things we could fund. If you want a sex change, that's fine, but you need to pay for it yourself.

  • MsVAllDay

    Same here!

  • Platoon

    Don't fall for it. Obama was anti-homosexual at one point and look at how he ended his presidency.

    Trump knows that the LGBTQ community are the powers that be. They will cry out, march, protest. Then, he will change his tune.

    This is all a distraction and the continuation to normalize this abominable lifestyle

  • Elevated Soul

    President Trump do indeed reflect my views here and I support him all the way on this issue.The military has specific missions and sexual confusion is not on the military menu...

    Taxpayer money should not be used to promote this perversion.The only TRUE trangenders are HERMANPHRODITES.I realize many gays hate my President because you know unlike the last gay President,that President Trump is not going to cater to you...

  • bella28498 .

    i really dgaf.....moving right along.

  • Nancy Drew-Natural & Luv’n It!

    The REAL agenda!

  • hotntot95

    This dude still gets no respeck outta me...all he wants to do is undo the previous administration...?

  • Nancy Drew-Natural & Luv’n It!

    ROFL!

  • Waya Hedia

    fk the LGBTQRZ community. The only 'community' that matters here is the military.

  • Justlooknout

    Personally I think this is ludicrous.

    Gays are next, don't be fooled.
    Person with Major Health issues should just die...Oh he is already working on it.

    Folks are so blind to his foolery.

  • Platoon

    I don't support neither one. Military are terrorists

  • deanya

    ...how about we raise the age from 18 to 21

  • Waya Hedia

    "while our enemies are creating missiles ready to aim at the US"

    They've been working on nukes and missiles since Clinton. But yes, while our enemies are arming up we should NOT be paying for trans surgery or social experiments.

  • Platoon

    Homosexual are next for what?

  • Waya Hedia

    Good.

  • Elevated Soul

    The last administration need to be undone because "Obama aka who told his college peeps,that he was considering the gay lifestyle " was out of d@mn order.....

  • Waya Hedia

    "either"

  • Justlooknout

    All he is doing is dividing.

    What if healthy folks cheered him on saying, kill the Affordable Care Act....Oops my bad they are the Wealthy are.

    None of this is going to end well.

  • PLEASEDontTellMe

    Those of you proclaiming to respect this bill...have no clue that this is only the beginning of removal of rights and thus so....you're next. Don't be fooled into thinking he's not coming for your belief and value systems next.

  • Justlooknout

    They will receive a honorable discharge and depending on their skill set. they will not have a job or may take the place of someone who has one.

  • Justlooknout

    to be kicked out the military. Trump is a racist bigot.

    Gays
    Blacks
    Poor
    Sick

    He not for any of that.

  • https://twitter.com/Chicagowise Chicagowise

    Some of them are insane.

  • Platoon

    Only time will tell.

  • JV

    I'm too lazy to look it up but I'm gonna guess half the people who sign up are right out of high school, so I don't think they'd do that.

  • Platoon

    Thank you. That tricks me all the time.

  • Waya Hedia

    Which race are homosexuals?

  • Justlooknout

    Hunti....they all cheering for their own demise.

    Oh well

  • Guess Who

    He cannot blaze his own trail because he is not qualified to lead ANY nation nor does he have the KSA for strategic planning, foreign policy or service the public in any capacity.

    Yeah, he's uber rich, been around the world but LEADERSHIP ability is something that cannot be learned.

    He's an uncouth, brutish, petty, childish, angry troll of a man with not one shred of grace, class, CREATIVITY or humanity. It's DISGRACEFUL to have this Ogre as POTUS and Amerikkka is truly a laughing stock and the republican party can NEVER EVER say they are the party of family values as long as this cheeto hued bastard is in office.

  • Waya Hedia

    Don't be paranoid. He's not coming for anything. Geeezuz.

  • https://twitter.com/Chicagowise Chicagowise

    Gene Anthony Ray was so d@mn fine!

  • Platoon

    He and all world leaders are preparing folks to worship the beast. Coming soon

  • Joi Calloway

    Some, let's try the majority. To even phathom you can be the opposite sex is insane!

  • Justlooknout

    I'm not understanding your response or question.

    Let me say this again TRUMP IS A BIGOT RACIST
    HE DOES NOT GAY OF ANY RACE (You think he likes white gays)

    and ALL BLACKS.

  • Platoon

    That lifestyle is so destructive. A friend of mine is a nurse in the military. The amount of std's that are being passed around is disturbing. That's a real battle.

  • Waya Hedia

    Obama was a racist bigot.

  • Waya Hedia

    I don't mean to be rude. You're welcome.

  • Justlooknout

    I only speaking of the current person in office.

  • Phillybruh

    Depending on the length of service it will be a administrative or honorable. But if they are already in I don't see the point in discharging them except to be mean and spiteful.

  • Justlooknout

    all the gotdamn wackadoos are in the post.

    Please keep asking me simpleton crap.

  • https://twitter.com/Chicagowise Chicagowise

    What if you have no beliefs or values? ?

  • Waya Hedia

    If they did that, then eventually voting age would go back to 21. Which would be fine with me. The military age of 18 is why voting age went to 18.

  • Vegas1989

    So I'm wondering if the bathrooms at the VA hospitals going back to Male and female. And will I have about three peeps in there while I'm with my doctor...I kicked everybody out last time...I'm a female...Born Female...I acted a plum fool...and them black girls was laughing their behinds off..I told them I'm about to undress and run around this new clinic butt naked if they ask me one more question on who I was and if I had any gender issues. My Dr. just laugh...LOL

  • time

    SO TRUE!!!

  • parisjok

    correct decision. this decision has nothing to do with all of the other so called different people. society is just getting to damn way over to the other side of everything that is normal, sane, well adjusted.

    it's perfectly alright to do you but don't expect to be included in everything going on in the world. yes, it is to damn expensive!! even God has it where men and women can't do everything. ONLY men can supply sperm to hook up with ONLY the woman having the egg to bring the beautiful baby here. better go ask somebody

  • Phillybruh

    When did the VA's do that. Since I work at one, they have not switched anything over to that...lol

  • JV

    I can see both sides, because other service members have to make an adjustment -- both in living quarters, mentally, emotionally, etc. So I understand what both sides are saying. I do feel like it's incredibly unfair to people who are serving now, especially because no one's saying how these changes will take effect.

  • http://batman-news.com Roderick2011

    So you admit that Trump has no positive agenda?
    That's a good first step.

  • Anunnaki

    I thought I was a Racist :( as you said

  • https://twitter.com/Chicagowise Chicagowise

    I know some trannies who admit they are men in dresses. Some of them acknowledge it's a fantasy.

  • Justlooknout

    What?? The military lifestyle or the Trans lifestyle.

    As a heterosexual, that has worked in infectious diseases for sometime now. This sounds crazy

    Additional as wife of service member...There is such much cheating going on....Their are enough of ST's going on for all.

    Is Usher Transsexual, he passing out Herpes like Halloween candy.

  • Waya Hedia

    Unfortunately my dear, you are. At least you come across that way with your ideas about white people. It is truly sad.

  • Platoon

    Lol. All good. I don't mind correction

  • http://batman-news.com Roderick2011

    Well since Republicans are anti-government it's no surprise that they have nothing to offer.

  • Renee26

    It's called prejudice.... but any who go on back under the rock and stop harassing Roses you Thorn

  • Renee26

    Ignore ignorance

  • PLEASEDontTellMe

    you're probably not paranoid enough....but when the purge is at your front door.....you will probably be calling on your Geezuz

  • PLEASEDontTellMe

    exactly...clueless...and non critical thinkers

  • Waya Hedia

    Sorry. That made no sense. Prejudice, racism.. same thing.

  • Phillybruh

    But its perfectly fine to take their taxes, if they pay taxes into a society they should be able to enjoy everything it has to offer including serving the country.

  • Justlooknout

    This post is filled with nonsensical loons. I'll be back later. It's like talking to the sidewalk.

  • JV

    If you're a legal adult, I think you should be able to vote.

  • Anunnaki

    lol, thanks

  • Waya Hedia

    No, I think we're good. And so are you. The only changes you might see coming are higher wages and more money flowing through the economy, as it is already. Don't be so gloomy.

  • Waya Hedia

    The voting age was set to 18 when people were angry that 18 year olds were going to war but could not vote. At that time, a 'legal' adult was 21.

  • JV

    Not everyone who pays taxes can serve in the military though, and to parisjok's point it IS kind of like a pre-existing condition that requires treatment. However, the expense is nothing that the military can't handle.

  • Platoon

    Both lifestyles are destructive. But, I was referring to the homosexual lifestyle. Please take note that I did not specify trans, but I understand why you perceived it that why given the article.

  • chris

    If they want to change their gender who problem is that? Yall haters, we all used to dress up on Halloween ? you couldn't tell me I wasn't batman as a kid

  • Please Stop The Madness

    We out here basically firing folks bc they wear a dress or are gay now? NO BUENO

  • JV

    Interesting, good stuff

  • Waya Hedia

    No problem. But the military shouldn't be paying for it.

  • chris

    What rights do we have anyway? Can't even walk down the street or take a drive safely anymore.

  • Justlooknout

    Yes, I did perceive you meant Trans, but I must say that the promiscuous lifestyle is dangerous no matter your sexual preference.

    Gay
    Straight
    Trans
    CONFUSED
    Fluid

  • Waya Hedia

    So, obese people? People with severe disabilities? Blind people ? Them too right?

  • Anunnaki

    can you tell me some things I said that makes you think that, or Know that, curious :)

  • Phillybruh

    I agree its a pre-existing condition as are most conditions vets are service connected for. I can't see where the number is that high to cause this concern.

  • Waya Hedia

    I would rather they had raised the draft age to 21. I know, when I was 18 I had no clue about politics.

  • Please Stop The Madness

    Folks on here thinking they should lose their job for playing dress up. Dishonorable discharge. WTF. Your ass willing to take a bullet for me and mine and this country as a whole. I dont gaf HOW you dress to do it.

    Be sure to wear your bulletproof vest up under your lace cami today sir.

  • Waya Hedia

    Yes you can. Hundreds of Millions of people do it every day.

  • Phillybruh

    When you sign up for the military you are given a physical and mental eval if you pass both you are allowed to serve the volunteer Military.

  • chris

    You not black. ?

  • Waya Hedia

    Right. So people are rejected every day.

  • Waya Hedia

    You not black either. Probably a dark brown.

  • http://sandrarose.com SandraRose

    Homosexuals are not next. Some of us aren't demanding preferential treatment or expensive, radical surgeries based on fantasies.

  • Waya Hedia

    If you don't already know, then no. Not gonna take the time. But your pic is so cute.. kinda sad.

  • Shira Harding-James

    Now this is one thing I can agree on.
    As a veteran myself, it isn't fair. I don't have an issue with anyone being whatever it is that they want to be, and can respect it... no judge no condemnation. I just don't want it to be forced upon the rest of us, and making a woman be ok showering with a man who is in the process of being a woman is "forcing".

  • Phillybruh

    Yes, if they are found mentally unfit. However, they weren't mentally unfit just yesterday. Enrollment in the military will drop over the next four years under this President. More than one child can keep you out of the military.

  • Shira Harding-James

    Not the same thing at all.

  • Please Stop The Madness

    Then it should apply to all gov't workers then dont you think? What are you talking about military shouldnt pay for it? Their salary? To buy their sexy lace bras if you are a man or pay for your ace bandage if you are a woman who is tying your titties down?

    I bet at LEAST 2 members of his administration play dress up in their private time. So in that case then dont pay them either

  • Phillybruh

    Finally something Black folks will ride with this President with! Kicking the gays and Transgendered the one group blacks can look down on.

  • Waya Hedia

    Enrollment in the military will rise when they're certain they won't have to deal with oddballs. The military morale has already increased a lot, now that the ROE have been st right. Under Obama.. they were NOT happy.

  • Please Stop The Madness

    the promiscuous lifestyle is dangerous no matter your sexual preference.

    ^^^^^^^^^^^
    As long as you fukkin...chileeee you in DANGER. All of us. Every single last one of us

  • OP2

    It is the taxpayers problem! It is the military's problem!! Instead of working and performing their duty as sworn to in order to have enough manpower on the job in each department to fill the mission, the military and it's leaders have to be burden with those people spending a great deal of time at the doctor's office for hormonal shots and treatment to help transition them to whatever. This is followed up by taking out more work days laying up in the hospital and home to recover from surgery (paid for by the taxpayers).

    They should be on the job each and every day just like the soldier and pulling their weight.

    The worse part is encroaching their own personal problem and mentality on the rights of others. Women should not have to have their dignity, respect and personal space in the bathroom imposed upon by a confused man with mental issues.

    Taxpayers pay government employees to do a job. -how can a job be done to the fullest if a great deal of time is spent on sitting in a medical facility and/or home (selfishly focusing on self) instead of the mission of their job and the military??? -they are not a good fit for the mission of the military. ijs

  • chris

    Clearly I was being facetious...

  • Waya Hedia

    Transition surgeries. THAT is what they should NEVER pay for. You want to play apples and oranges .. go for it. Count me out.

  • Platoon

    Exactly, Ms. ?

  • Phillybruh

    Why weren't they happy under Obama? He opened up benefits up at the VA they weren't eligible for before. His administration has made it easier to file and get a claim done. I guess they are itching to fight a war is that why they weren't happy in the volunteer military no one is making them go.

  • deanya

    Lol definitely but this one of the reasons America is looked at crazy cause everywhere else 18 means adult drink war marriage but here our ages don't make sense

  • Please Stop The Madness

    Nope. Not the surg. I agree. But if they want to dress up they should be able to. He said transgenders in ALL capacities. In all phases of transgender-dom. Pre, right now seeking, AND post op

  • https://twitter.com/Chicagowise Chicagowise

    How can you fight a war and protect your surgical implants, at the same time?

  • Platoon

    You're absolutely rigjt

  • OP2

    Except, they are not serving their country nor fulfilling their job, if they come in with the intention of spending most of their contract sitting up in doctor offices for therapy; hormonal treatments, injections and preparing for surgery and recovery of surgery.

    -they are getting a paycheck via taxpayers while spending time away from their job and what they were sworn to do. That within itself is conflict to the work, manpower and what they were sworn to do. Whereas, other soldiers are on the job and earning their paycheck.

    Looks like they joined to get free surgery in the military off the backs of taxpayers.

    Even some addicts; serial killers, rapists and pedophiles pay taxes while hiding behind a job. -does that mean they too belong in the military?? Common sense. ijs

  • https://twitter.com/Chicagowise Chicagowise

    Did the taxpayers pay for your costume?

  • Waya Hedia

    The people in the trenches aren't concerned about the VA. They ARE concerned about being able to shoot back without making several phone calls to get approval. Obama fucked that all up .

  • Shira Harding-James

    When you have to start drinking water out of bowls because your unit can not afford cups that's a problem!

  • Waya Hedia

    Makes sense. Can't let some in and not the others. Rank and file don't really want them there. Their body modifications should NEVER be the responsibility of our military.

  • Phillybruh

    That's an argument for every military person who goes in with a pre-existing condition. Ban all people with pre-existing conditions who go into the military for treatment. Most service connections are pre-existing.

  • VanillaCaramel2shotsExpresso

    Thank you for serving our country !!! I agree with +100%!

  • Waya Hedia

    It gets even worse. When you have to take parts off of planes and vehicles to put them on other vehicles to do a mission. When we went to war in 2003 the military didn't have enough gear because Clinton fucked it all up. And everyone was whining about vests , helmets etc.. as if they completely ignored the prior President's decimation of the military.

  • VanillaCaramel2shotsExpresso

    You(r) right !!!! ????????

  • stav

    We/I don't look down on anyone(at least no one should), and we/I certainly don't look up to anyone(again no one should)! All people are no better or worse than any other people. The acts this group of people commit is abhorrent(Gods standards, I agree), but so are some acts that straight people commit. No one on Earth can look down on anyone else, we are ALL sinners, yet capable of change!

  • VanillaCaramel2shotsExpresso

    Thought so ....

  • NeverSurprised

    *applause*

  • JV

    One of the less talked-about, but interesting (to me) aspect of the Trump presidency is how differential he is to his own military. Obama allegedly was notorious for wanting the final call -- especially if civilians could be endangered. Trump apparently gives his officers full jurisdiction.

  • stav

    I think they're trolling! I would hope so, that was the worst analogy ever!

  • JV

    Also, my two cents but I feel like Obama was a lot more hawkish than people think. He took the drone program and ran with it.

  • Shira Harding-James

    Yes!! we are all susceptible to STD's, not just gay and transgender. Although I get what she was maybe trying to say. I'm assuming she means It seems destructive because of the very small percentage of being either homosexual transsexual and then serving in the military. So let's say you have only 100 transgender serving and out of that 100, 75 people are infected, it comes across as more transgender is the problem. But it isn't, sleeping around unprotected is the problem... straight gay man woman transgender.

  • http://sandrarose.com SandraRose

    The Pentagon can't afford cups for soldiers but they can afford to pay for artificial vaginas for confused men...

  • Waya Hedia

    That is the way it should be. When firemen go to fight a fire, they don't call back to central to see if they can use their hoses or enter a home to save someone. Those who know their jobs should be allowed to do them. I think.

  • Phillybruh

    Why wouldn't they be allowed to shoot back if being shot at while in combat? I mean when we go into other countries their are rules we have to follow and certain things we can't do. One of the reasons we pulled out of IRAQ is because the government wanted to be able to charge military men they killed civilians in combat. So I guess for them being able to shoot at will, Syria should be able to arrest and charge the service member who kills a civilian.

  • chris

    The darkest of browns... Butt if I need to talk about unseasoned food or the stories of sharing ice cream with pets I'll come find you ?.

  • Waya Hedia

    Obama wanted to achieve military success without being prominent. HE neutered the guys taking fire for publicity reasons. And we lost people because of it. I understand your point though.

  • http://sandrarose.com SandraRose

    I think he meant "all capacities" in terms of rank within the military.

  • chris

    You're basing this on what exactly?

  • https://www.instagram.com/nymagee/ Ny MaGee

    I agree with Trump on this....

  • Waya Hedia

    "Why wouldn't they be allowed to shoot back if being shot at while in combat?"

    Exactly. But you should look into the prior ROE setup by Obama . You might be shocked. They couldn't return fire without authorization.

  • JV

    Well, I can't speak on living conditions in the military from personal experience. But regarding affordability:

    "A 2016 Rand Corp. study commissioned by the Defense Department concluded that letting transgender people serve openly would have a "minimal impact" on readiness and health care costs, largely because there are so few in the military's 1.3 million-member force.

    The study put the number of transgender people in the military between 1,320 and 6,630. Gender-change surgery is rare in the general population, and the RAND study estimated the possibility of 30 to 140 new hormone treatments a year in the military, with 25 to 130 gender transition-related surgeries among active service members. The cost could range from $2.4 million and $8.4 million, an amount that would represent an "exceedingly small proportion" of total health care expenditures, the study found."

    http://www.cnn.com/2017/07/26/politics/trump-military-transgender/index.html

    -------
    I'm not speaking on whether they *should* cover costs, but this is from the horse's mouth.

  • Ryan

    I agree with this because of the huge expenses and amount of preferential treatment involved. Now on to more pressing issues.

  • Shira Harding-James

    It isn't the same.
    One is a judgement and the other spews hate

  • Waya Hedia

    You callin me a butt?
    :)
    I don't eat ice cream. My cat loves scotch though.

  • chris

    Yeah I had free lunch and still collected money

  • 6ue$$imh8n

    Exactly!!

  • Shira Harding-James

    Lol

  • 6ue$$imh8n

    Exactly

  • Shira Harding-James

    I don't think so... homosexuals are not causing the military billions of dollars to change their gender.

  • Ryan

    I guess it would've been the same way that women fight in wars, since they have tiddays. ??

  • Renee26

    Nope...I'm not for putting down people because of their gender beliefs or sexuality....I would like to see the government stop paying for a lot of surgeries and treatments...including gender reassignment and weight loss surgery. I think it's messed up that our taxes pay for things like that and think those type of things should be the responsibility of those who want it.....I don't care who the US has on the front lines because I don't support the military at all, but hat's a whole notha topic

  • Shira Harding-James

    lol

  • Waya Hedia

    I hope you meant deferential. :)

  • stav

    You just said a mouth full, I agree with you!

  • Phillybruh

    The difference this President can and will blame the military and its generals and experts if anything happens. The previous took accountability. I prefer my boss to sign off on my work.

  • shalynneb1

    Preach.

  • Renee26

    LMAO

  • chris

    People with deep mental issues should not be serving imo. My point is most people would not be OK with me if I REALLY thought putting on a costume changed who I was.

  • Waya Hedia

    He didn't take responsibility for guys killed in combat because of the ROE. He shunned it. So, I would have to disagree that he was one who took responsibility for much of anything. Respectfully.

  • chris

    I thought it was good ?

  • Dollmeshia Dee-Dee Clark

    Yes i totally agree! Again it's a choice (no need to debate) but until you have a vajayjay you going to the boy's locker room. And No the government shouldn't pay for it at all....You want it....You pay for it!

  • Phillybruh

    The number of transpeople in the military is small, the number of surgeries the military pays for is even smaller.

  • Renee26

    Yes...I agree about it extending to gov't workers....the government shouldn't be paying for gender reassignment, hormone treatments or weight loss surgery for NOBODY IMO. Hell, if I want to get surgery to look different my health insurance doesn't cover it; I have to pay for it myself. Medicaid is also paying for a lot of things with our tax dollars that are considered elective surgeries for most people.

  • JV

    YES I did, ha! But honestly Trump being DIFERENTIAL to his military is probably a good thing overall, I don't doubt this.

  • CutdBS

    Trump is doing to Gays what Obama did to blacks. ?

  • Waya Hedia

    PS. I prefer my clients to leave me alone to do what they hired me to do. I know my job better than they do.

  • Li

    Transg. people don't seem to understand that the majority of the country is not comfortable with them. Period. And Obama went against his generals, who voiced opposition. Bad move. The reason the Republicans are in charge is because of all the social engineering by the last adminstration. The country aint ready for it yet.
    And I don't want my tax $$ going tor re-assign a sex.

  • Diva_woman

    How does this make sense? What is trump doing to gays? What did Obama do to blacks?

  • Please Stop The Madness

    People with certain mental issues or incapacities related to trangender-dom should not serve in the military...but DONALD TRUMP IS OUR PRESIDENT. How the HELL does this WORK yall? this cat is NOT all there. Like yall KNOW it. Im ashamed of some of you in here.

  • Miany

    THANK YOU!!! People kill me with the holier than thou.. so just because you are not trans you feel like they should not be entitled to the medical benefits afforded to ANYONE else at the job?? a military chick with tiddays too big can elect to have a breast reduction but a military man can't mess with his sex organs?? If he had the surgery and needs hormones but can still do his job what is the problem. Let folk be. Find a valid reason to fire these folk if you want Trump but, I can see a discrimination suit in the works. GLAAD aint gone like this shii here

  • Please Stop The Madness

    Donald TRUMP doesnt seem to understand that the majority of the WORLD is not comfortable with HIM.

    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

    I fixed that for you.

  • Renee26

    I believe it but 15,000 will now be kicked out of the military...because somebody wanted to prove a point...they could have just CUT the funding of the procedures and treatments and still let those people serve if that's what they wanted to do. I'm pretty sure adding a bathroom to the facilities for them to use would not be as taxing as they claim it would have been,

  • Waya Hedia

    I hope you meant "differential' tee hee! :)

  • OP2

    Oh please. Most people serve the military and taxpayers to the fullest. During my time, I did not see other folks making excuses for pre-existing conditions. They showed up for on time daily, except being away due to other training and schooling or on vacation/leave.

    That is your opinion. Most service connections are NOT pre-existing. You have no idea the amount of blood and urine testings that go into passing the passing the physical. They also have access to your medical record for history of pre-existing conditions. -better not lie on that application and swear in only to be found out later which can result in dishonorable discharge, etc.

  • Phillybruh

    And those 15,000 will be given honorable discharges you will still be paying for their healthcare for the rest of their lives. and it will likely include a service connection so your paying for their outfits too.

  • JV

    I posted this downthread, but again, from the horse's mouth, *strictly regarding* affordability:

    "A 2016 Rand Corp. study commissioned by the Defense Department concluded that letting transgender people serve openly would have a "minimal impact" on readiness and health care costs, largely because there are so few in the military's 1.3 million-member force.

    The study put the number of transgender people in the military between 1,320 and 6,630. Gender-change surgery is rare in the general population, and the RAND study estimated the possibility of 30 to 140 new hormone treatments a year in the military, with 25 to 130 gender transition-related surgeries among active service members. The cost could range from $2.4 million and $8.4 million, an amount that would represent an "exceedingly small proportion" of total health care expenditures, the study found."

    http://www.cnn.com/2017/07/26/politics/trump-military-transgender/index.html

  • Please Stop The Madness

    I dont know how I feel about the gov't funded surg's. I mean if that is the cause for the uproar by ALL means cut them. But wearing a dress bc you feel like it...and you are a man...willing to take a bullet for the country...leave.him.her.whatevershim wants to be called.AH-LONE!

  • Shira Harding-James

    Lol Omg!!

  • Shira Harding-James

    I don't think they are kicking these people out.... they will give them a choice probably

  • http://batman-news.com Roderick2011

    Republicans try to social engineer by restricting abortion and birth control.

  • CutdBS

    Exactly! Obama The 20 year BLACK community organizer "Hope and Change" for illegals, Gays, and white liberals didn't do a dam thing for the black community!

  • Shira Harding-James

    Thank you

  • http://batman-news.com Roderick2011

    and their periods.

  • Faithz

    Correct.

  • Phillybruh

    What would be the choice? Give me my honorable and my service connection and you still pay for my treatment while I'm at home.

  • Faithz

    Omg.

  • Waya Hedia

    We don't elect Presidents for the world to be comfortable with them. Most took advantage of Obama.

  • http://batman-news.com Roderick2011

    Most military have the same attitude toward women being in the military hence the high number of sexual assaults and the resulting silence about the issue.

  • deanya

    ....what about everything else that's forced onto us

  • Waya Hedia

    You being ashamed of someone, really doesn't say much. But tell me, where did you attain your degree in psychology?

  • JV

    I'm just gonna put it out there: Nothing official has actually taken place yet. All of this is because Trump made 3 tweets. This could all be a distraction from the lack of progress Trump's made on his domestic agenda, and nothing actually comes of this. This is a real possibility, IMO.

  • Please Stop The Madness

    We damn should.

    http://www.pewglobal.org/2017/06/26/u-s-image-suffers-as-publics-around-world-question-trumps-leadership/

    U.S. Image Suffers as Publics Around World Question Trump’s Leadership

    "Although he has only been in office a few months, Donald Trump’s presidency has had a major impact on how the world sees the United States. Trump and many of his key policies are broadly unpopular around the globe, and ratings for the U.S. have declined steeply in many nations. According to a new Pew Research Center survey spanning 37 nations, a median of just 22% has confidence in Trump to do the right thing when it comes to international affairs. "

  • Please Stop The Madness

    At Kiss My Ass University.

  • Faithz

    So True, Trump is just looking for more money for his Billionaire friends, on the backs of the poor.

  • deanya

    Black people quick to pull the mental illness with shit like this but only got "God" for black people with real mental illness like depression or being bipolar

  • Shira Harding-James

    I can agree with you. However it's deeper than that for me. Again I have no issues with whatever you choose to be and will not judge. I believe it all comes down to what's fair. I don't think they shouldn't serve, I just don't feel we should be paying for it. They don't typically give breast reductions unless there is some type of deformity, scoliosis or something like that....you can't just walk into a clinic and say I want a breast reduction

  • Well$$Well$$?

    #filesnails All of this.

  • Faithz

    I hear You. But there are so many who are Normal in service are out of service , and is going through he!! to get help from the VA.

  • PLEASEDontTellMe

    LMAO!!!!

  • Miany

    I hear what you mean & may even agree on a practical ground but, I just believe if the benefit exists then qualified persons should be allowed to exhaust it. If a straight person can use the insurance to get elective surgeries then naturally a trans should be able to do the same thing. Maybe the military should stop paying for all elective surgeries or maybe the military should toughen their standards on allowing extensive paid time off for elective procedures...they have to do something better than banning one group of people all because they don't like how those people were using their insurance benefits. that is absurd.

  • Waya Hedia

    I trust polls zero. Sorry. You can find polls that say anything you want them to. After Obama's continual apology tours, Iran stalking ships in international waters, Russians buzzing our planes and ships and China taking over international waters.. Paris accord putting the BULK of the cost on America.. no wonder they're not happy. Give a kid a big box of candy, and then take it away from him. He won't be happy either.

  • Shira Harding-James

    I'm one of them! Lol

  • Renee26

    I already know...and they still aren't doing anything to stop that.

  • PLEASEDontTellMe

    I got my degree there too!!! Hey Alum!!!!

  • http://batman-news.com Roderick2011

    WH: When we went to war in 2003 the military didn't have enough gear because Clinton fucked it all up
    But Bush had been president for two years and he sent you to war unprepared, but you're blaming Clinton?
    WH: And everyone was whining about vests , helmets etc.. as if they completely ignored the prior President's decimation of the military.

    LOL. You do know that there was a Republican Congress six years of Clinton's eight years in office and Congress produces the budget.

    Just like now. Trump is blaming Obama but it was the Republican Congress who blackmailed Obama into signing the Sequestion in return for raising the debt ceiling and that called for 1:1 military to domestic spending cuts?

    Can someone explain why the military is automatically biased against Democrats?

  • Waya Hedia

    Thought so. That's an online course.

  • Renee26

    I hope so....and I hope they don't really care about being kicked out either. Life goes on and there are plenty of better options out here

  • Please Stop The Madness

    Howdy!

  • Waya Hedia
  • Shira Harding-James

    Like what?

  • Renee26

    Thanks for sharing....of course the FAKE news is reporting higher statistics

  • stanhope

    Sleep and be stupid. I wouldn't risk complacency

  • Renee26

    I already know

  • Shira Harding-James

    It were up to me Probably a severance package with a honorable discharge. But again I don't make those decisions, just know they can't just kick them out on the streets.

  • Please Stop The Madness

    Dont trust the shit then. Go to his GOVERNMENT PROVIDED Twitter page and look first hand at all the folks who tell him daily they hate his ass.

    *globally

  • CutdBS

    Probably the same way blacks felt after voting for Obama

  • Waya Hedia

    Any idea how long it takes to rebuild a military? You don't just 'do it'.
    Clinton was in charge.
    Yes, I know the congress was Republican. Doesn't matter if the Senate or President isn't though does it? The Republicans were the REASON there was a surplus . Gingrich's calls to balance the budget and reform welfare .. as part of his Contract for(with) America. During those years I worked and talked with a lot of military and they were pissed.

    Can someone explain why the Democrats are automatically biased against the military?

  • Guess Who

    Nah, that's a lie ...but much like your idol, trump...you can't keep Obama - and probably a big black dyck - out of your mouth, huh? SMH.

  • Waya Hedia

    Twitter. Sure. Will do. Not. Sometimes, you have to do the things that are unpopular, unlike Obama who was only concerned about those things that were. Didn't really work out so well.

    to me, the people who spend their time telling the President how much they hate them can suck it.

  • Guess Who

    Is that what your pressed troll azz came to this specific thread to do? Comment on YOUR OPINION about what Obama did and how blacks felt about his presidency? FOH you ignorant reptile, lol. NOTHING Obama could have ever done or didn't do came compare to the embarrassing shyt that orange troglodyte has said and done in less than a year. Go take a flea bath while your water dish is being filled. You're starting to stink and you seem mighty thirsty...

  • Anunnaki

    awee y thank you :)

  • Miany

    I hear what you are saying and for some reason I don't believe you can just walk into a hospital, request gender reassignment surgery and have it covered by insurance. If THAT is what is happening then I would agree with making changes to the policy but, I don't think insurance companies have a gaping loophole covering gender reassignment surgeries, not with the way insurance companies like to get over.. for some reason I think Trump and them are objecting to having transgenders in the military based on their moral disdain for trans folk.

  • Str8tUpMenace

    *tears*

  • Joi Calloway

    WTF are you talking about? You sound bipolar!

  • Please Stop The Madness

    to me, the people who spend their time telling the President how much they hate them can suck it.

    ^^^^^^^^^^^^
    Shouts out to ChrissyT./Mrs. John Legend! Got blocked by Agent Orange yesterday. goes to show he been reading them hate Tweets you sent to him all along!

    You go gurl!!!!!!!

  • Waya Hedia

    both of whom are wholly irrelevant. They can suck it.

  • the guest

    Restricting abortion and birth control is equivalent to surgically changing birth sex?

  • the guest

    Bradley Chelsea Manning is the expensive privileged basis behind the transgender ban from military. The military can't literally afford to accommodate thousands of Bradley Chelsea Mannings.

  • SpiceGirl

    the same way a person who had reconstructive surgery would....

  • Peter Piper ATL

    I do think this was common sense. What was Obama thinking? This was way too experimental to be an effective policy.

    But this needs to be a policy that is administered fairly, which means, if you're gonna ban trannies, then please make sure you ban those manly bulldaggers too.

    It was an overreach when Obama did it. But don't get it twisted: this was a cleverly calculated move by Trump to change the discussion from the Russia scandal, healthcare and his other failing and scandalous activities.

  • DynoMight

    As the video shows, the truth always comes out.... #PunIntended

    Who gets banned next? #EatsIMPEACH

    https://youtu.be/MBKu9OJ8Ltk

  • Phillybruh

    I work in the system, most veterans go into the military with an already pre-exsisting condition but the government is on the hook for it because it was treated while in the military. 80% of service connected vets have never seen combat, never left the states or their bases.

  • hottlanta

    White gays and transgenders hijacked the Civil Rights bill and looked down on black people as if they are second class citizens. Ask them are they fighting for black gays and transgenders right to vote since they have not passed the Civil Rights Voting Act so they can vote in the next election. Leroy Cox and Jamal Mock has been silent on those issues. Black gays and transgenders can always attack other groups that have been mean to them but will not publically say anything publically about the treatment they get from white folks within their own organization. I be damned if I get caught up in their fight to diminish and forget my own fight and they won't ride or die with me and get's on and off the bus when it is convenient. Black folks have fought everyone else fight for so long and then time we fight our fight folks be looking at us on television and say we oughta be ashamed of ourselves and turns us from victim to predator.

  • CutdBS

    You have put your sexual perversion ahead of your race ..... Faggot. You identify as a homo who just happens to be black.

  • OP2

    That does not make or prove that their current medical condition was pre-existing. -especially, if exams and labs were done to screen for cancers, diseases, heart and conditions, etc., in addition to passing their physicals and bootcamp conditioning training. Pre-existing can also be proven by having an investigator look into their previous medical records to check the history and exposed possible application fraud. -otherwise, you are making assumptions!!

  • Please Stop The Madness

    Chrissy out here paying a black woman way through school. relevant to me. if you are black and not the white ass troll I think you are, perhaps it should be relevant to you that another black woman is out here achieving her dreams, and going further in life in general. as a RESULT of the gift she rec'd from Chrissy

  • Vicki White

    Breast reduction is nessary in most cases a most why u comparing a real issue for women with a person filled with vanity?

  • deanya

    Lol sex money drugs

  • geminimommy

    I believe that if these people want these surgeries they should pay for them with their own monies. I mean how bad do you really want it? It's a good thing Trump stopped it. I'm not saying they shouldn't serve but they shouldn't receive preferential treatment. Women in the army still have to make certain sacrifices to being comfortable. Why should a man that wants to be a woman have what real women in the armed forces don't get?

  • deanya

    Lol google what bipolar means cause what u said was stupid . Also just saying when it comes go black people being gay or trans all of a sudden black people believe in mental illness but when people bring up real things like being bipolar or depressed black love to say pray on it or talk to god about it and act like its not a real thing

  • deanya

    Lol i mean we all watch tv and we all know they force all kinda things onto us without us knowing . Like light skin being better or the idea of the black man or the idea of what a "good" relationship is ie romantic comedies or what's ok and what's no ok

  • OP2

    Cancer and diseases can happen at any given time after some has entered service. -let's not mention a whole list of mandated medical shots they must take and the side-effects thereof. How many ships have asbestos and other chemicals? You don't think our people sent over to help Japan were exposed to breathing in the radiation spill from the earthquake of 2011 (a known cause for cancer)?

    In short, see the smaller details in the bigger picture that contribute to current medical problems. -if they resulted after joining the military, then it was not pre-existing especially when the military ran all sorts of tests and ruled out a list of medical problems. ;)

  • Waya Hedia

    Means nothing with respect to the President. My race is irrelevant. To respectable people , anyway. American blacks need J O B S. JOBS. I don't care much about race as I am not inextricably tied to mine. I didn't choose it and I am not going to let it become my entire life or blame anyone else for it.

  • Peter Piper ATL

    I usually agree with that sentiment but this is different--very different. The military is a place where discipline and cohesion are vitally important; I just don't see how transgender persons could or even would want to subject themselves to what could be an awfully complex and potentially highly unwelcome and hostile environment for someone who is in a gender questioning or transitional state.

  • Phillybruh

    I blasts them all, I have no problems with that. However, I'm on a blog that is visited by and most of the comments are by black folks. Now If there is one thing that black folks will put down everything and condemn its gay folks. There is no arguing that.

  • Guess Who

    Bytch, you're reaching. You're a troll who can't produce a coherent thought. Typical Trump supporter.

    Take that flea bath yet? If not, GO NOW.

  • hottlanta

    Dump getting ready to start a war and if you black men don't wanna go folks need to do the Ted Nugent by wearing an adult diaper and fill it with feces and piss a week before your interview and wear it on that day to appear you are crazy. Or you can do it the Dump way and get 5 fake doctor notes for bone spurs to keep from going to war. Someone asked him what foot was it in and he said he didn't know. Notice how when he plays golf he is not showing any signs of foot problems. But he did showed signs of not being able to walk 700 yards when he went overseas and had to get on a golf cart. That was from obesity not bone spurs. That was his chance to say his bone spurs was acting up again so I can't walk moment but he didn't say it.

  • Waya Hedia

    "white ass troll"

    disgusting racism. Doesn't look like you're doing much to "Stop the madness"

  • Miami8981

    I am so old school that I do not know the difference between transgenders and being gay. I am not making a joke here. I really don't know. But I thought gays were allowed into the military during Obama's first term.

    Help me to understand. I think a gay man is gay and a lesbian woman is also gay but the gay man and lesbian women remain a man and a woman physically. I think transgender is when a man wants to dress like a woman and a woman wants to identify as a man.

    What is confusing -- and again, I am serious. I really don't know. But what is confusing is I see gay men, especially in the summer trying to sound like a woman with the high pitched voice (really sounding quite ridiculous), wearing wigs and they are wearing crop tops and other feminine clothing. Then I'll see the butch lesbian who wear their pants so low you can see their men's boxer underwear and they walk really hard. Most men don't even walk hard but for some reason butch lesbians feel they have to pimp walk and walk hard. I'm telling you I really don't know the difference between gays and transgenders.

  • Ryan

    Personally I agree with the decision but this comment right here?? Who was that DUDE with the scarf on his head from back in the day who said "You is REAL DUMB"? LOL!!

  • hottlanta

    Black folks didn't tell Lil Richard to take the makeup off his face. What is your point.

  • Peter Piper ATL

    I think you're projecting a little bit. I don't support transgenders in the military as well, but mostly for morale reasons. You went too far right with it. Is it possible in the future that could be an option? Absolutely. In 2017, I don't think it makes sense to have that kind of policy.

    But I think the serial killer and pedophile reference was tacky as well. That's a horrible equivocation, and you should know better but I guess you don't.

    BTW, joining the military means you are committing to killing 1 or 100,000 people if ordered to do so, which means everybody in uniform is essentially a 'serial killer' in waiting.

  • http://realitytea.com/ Lady Chatterley’s Lover

    Can't stand Trump but don't have an issue with this. Don't want my tax dollars going on crotch patrol when we have real issues in this country. Not the responsibility of taxpayers or government to fix what God didn't.

  • hottlanta

    Correction TRAITOR Bradley Chelsea Mannings.

  • Justlooknout

    The same place he gets all his facts.

  • http://realitytea.com/ Lady Chatterley’s Lover

    I want a smaller waistline, bigger ass and new dental implants to enjoy my life. I guess I need to head over to the recruiting office.

  • Ms. Jackson

    Lol. Nice reply

  • Peter Piper ATL

    I read the comments and I see both points of view. Its natural for a lot of us--whether you are Black or gay or both--to be sensitive to issues that involve perceived discrimination. I get it. But what needs to be understood by younger people is this transgender equality issue is relatively new. 10 years ago, that term didn't exist.

    The American military is not ready for this. And I think we all need to be sensitive to that. Do I personally think a tranny or a bulldagger can go and kill some ISIS extremists? Honey, if a drag queen can stuff his dick between his legs and then wear a G-string, and if a bulldagger can spend the day with box tape lanced across her titties, i wouldn't be surprised if either one of them could backpack up those Afghan mountains and take out a ton of terrorists.

    But that's not what its all about. I just don't think this is an experiment that the military should be engaging in at this time.

    But civil rights evolve quickly; 5 years from now, this could easily be a settled issue.

  • CutdBS

    What's the matter ? Your dream of man-boy love being legalized no longer seems possible? lol

  • Elevated Soul

    I'm glad President Trump is reversing this nonsense....

  • Joi Calloway

    OK so I see you are a sarcastic idoit! The condition bipolar also known as manic- depressive disorder is a mental condition were the individual suffers marked alternating periods of elation and depression. I'm sorry to tell you I'm very well versed on mental illnesses. Bipolar can also be clustered with periods of paranoia and delusions depending on the severity. In some instances creating a schizo-affective disorder were as they have hallucinations as well. Miss me with the BS! As I said before your rants make you appear to suffer from 1 of the above afflictions!

  • YellowSauce

    does THIS mean we get to send guliani back where he came from ??? ... damn wrong law ..... SMH

  • IAmLegend

    Trump and I finally agree on something

  • Harley

    Good they suffer from mental illness. They should seek treatment not try and fight wars

  • Elevated Soul

    Exactly....Gays like that are an enemy to the Black race because identify more with the gay lifestyle than the Black race.

  • BlackGirls EatGreen

    Conservatives are so afraid of transgenders in the bathroom, why not send them onto the battlefield? If they can frighten gun toting slack jawed red necks and their menopausal wives maybe, just maybe, they can do the same to the enemy?

  • YES I SAID IT…

    I agree with Trump and I luv your write up Auntie Sandra! We need to handle and focus on the big issues in the service and not focus on and push the transgender issue

  • NAYB

    I feel like it should be treated as a cosmetic procedure. Out of pocket . It's expensive , and I know people are passionate about what they feel they are. But its something that's a want, not a medical need. If a woman gets a boob job she's merely enhancing what she already has , and she can't get that covered , so it's fair to not let someone get a whole dag on reassignment.

  • Justlooknout

    1. where are you getting this dollar amount from?
    2. the military spends more money on breast lifts, tummy tucks and laps bands that trans gender dysphoria,
    Folks up in arms....about the military but medicare (tax dollars pays for hormone therapy and surgery) so it really doesn't matter.

    aside all of that, if a transgender wants to pick up arms and fight our enemies. BE my guest, those twenty thousand or so...will leave room for young men like my son who are not interested to be drafted.

  • Skin Deep Beauty

    Good...sick of of these muffuggas with ID crisis. So while ypur healing from all them FREAKY SURGERIES HOW ARE YOU SERVING YOUR COUNTRY. Yet all the vets with missind limbs and lack of care continue to suffer...Pay for your own CHOICE and on YOUR own TIME. Bye!

  • jeniefrumdabloc™

    you know what amazes me.... Is the fact that when you join the military you are basically willing to take a bullet for that country... Basically ... So from that stance ... You should feel honored that a person would even sign up for such fugg shyt considering you have no respect for who they are as souls.... Now with that being said fugg the military ...? the military needs you not other way around ... Ain't no way in the hell would I risk my life and freedom for the pieces of shyts that run this country ... Imo for transexuals ... This a blessing because you can better believe with that fool up top in charge expect a war... Don't nobody like our country now... And they ready to strike... So let these judgemental racist soldiers get on the front line and get blown up.... Sorry not sorry... ?

  • hottlanta

    This is more about Dump being the Pimp in Chief. He holding the LGTBQ flag and saying I am not gonna be a regular politician and go back on my word. Yep he did that. He told the loyal rally crowd. Imma be elected and have Hilary investigated during the campaign. When he went on his rally after he won and they chanted lock her up, he said to their face stop saying that I just said that to get elected. He praised Comey and thought when Comey was loyal to him, gave him a Godfather kiss. When the Russian investigation got started and he wanted Comey to call the television stations and tell the world I am not under investigation he fired him because he felt Comey was being disloyal to him. Now Jeff Sessions was one of his loyal first supporters ride or die. Jeff did the right thing under the law by recusing himself but he thinks it is an act of disloyalty to him as if Sessions is his personal attorney. As President he should know that Sessions is the AG of the people. This is about Dump being disloyal to people who has been loyal to him. He gets what he wants and when he does he dumps you at the curb. Sounds like a politician to me and he said he would be different. Still waiting to hear some words from his loyal coal miner base when they lose their affirmative action provision for black lung disease when his health care bill passes.

  • chris

    I don't think anyone really knows. I think it is all in what you perceive yourself to be. If I think I'm a woman I'm trans.

  • suganspice68

    Same here

  • Joi Calloway

    OK so you are a sarcastic idoit! So bipolar also known as manic- depressive disorder is a mental disorder marked by alternating periods of elation and depression. These indoviduals also can experience delusions and paranoia depending on the severity. These individuals may experience hallucinations as well which at that point is called a Schizo-affective disorder. I'm very well versed in mental illness. So again, yes your rant makes you appear to have some form of bipolar disorder!

  • DynoMight

    Hey YellowSauce ? I believe in miracles, lol. Great point and question... ?????

    I love your name, by the way. #PassportInHand

  • Joi Calloway

    It is a fantasy! Its good they admit that to themselves.

  • Wreckognize Game

    His whole presidency is being spent overturning everything President Obama has done and twitter thugging. Anything to not do any work or come up with a resolution or idea of his own. No matter what he does Prez Obama still has his legacy but carry on unkind sir.

  • BlackGirls EatGreen

    There are between 6,000 and 15,000 transgenders already serving in the military. The cost of their medical care is of no significance. I could careless if they want to serve and are capable why should it matter? What does this blunt announcement mean to their lives, VA home loans, etc. Were they notified before this announcement so their questions could be answered? The President is an idiot.

  • Joi Calloway

    ???? OK wait..???

  • Sircaput

    Even though I could care less for Trump I totally support it, even though Trump is only doing it because he does not want reverse all President Obama policies..Transgenders should not be in the military and though it might work for some branches of service it has to be fair for all and as a Navy retired sailor I can not see how it would work anyway onboard ship's.

  • Smith Jane

    You either join the military voluntarily or they'll bring back the draft. To serve in the military shouldn't be a life of comfort. I'm so sick of different minority groups and their faux outrage. Black women's ire over hairstyles and now a billion dollar proposal to pay for a lifetime of transgender medical costs? Give me a break. The decision to become Transgender is a choice - not a medical necessity. If they choose to transition to another s e x then they should have to foot the bill for it.

  • YellowSauce

    :)

  • http://batman-news.com Roderick2011

    Yeah and gas went up where I live $0.15/gal is less than 24 hours and it was almost down to $2.00/gal.

    Trump will start a war with either Iran or NK but they are saying that some of NK's missiles have the capability to hit cities on the West Coast (maybe this is the pretext for regime change in NK)

  • http://batman-news.com Roderick2011

    I said social engineering.

    Conservatives believe that if abortion and birth control is restricted slooty women will stop having sex outside of marriage and of course women won't be able to work outside the home so they would have to get married.

  • Shira Harding-James

    The same place you got yours.
    They no longer draft anyone. It's enough people joining now that they are kicking people out

  • Shira Harding-James

    Oh ok I was like what is she getting at? Lol
    Yes they slip it in there all of the time

  • Shira Harding-James

    Oh it's not that essay either way, but the process is a little different for both. I juts used the augmentation as an example. You would have to prove your back hurts and have an extensive amount of appointments and physical therapy before they will write off on it....and each case is different

  • Joi Calloway

    Mutilating people is not serving the country!

  • BlackGirls EatGreen

    The Trump Administration has an agenda to move the country backwards. That is what they mean by making it "Great Again". There is a list they are working down, so just because he may not have gotten to something that impacts you negatively yet, do not be a fool. Minorities, immigrants, Muslims, women, elderly, LGBT, Jews, and the poor are on that list. You can cheer them on as they work their way down the list and steam roll over the rights of group after group, they'll get to you eventually.

  • Joi Calloway

    Most mentally I'll people are banned from the military. So should people with Gender Dysphoria a clear mental disorder.

  • Joi Calloway

    Good 1!???

  • jeniefrumdabloc™

    He done created a damn mess.. SMH

  • Justlooknout

    Shira we have agreed and laughed over many posts. So don't take what I'm saying the wrong way.

    I worked for the military for over 10 years as well being a wife of service member. My then spouse told me weight gain would be my last duty station. So I worked out with him......but there were many service members spouses get surgeries I mentioned. I know work for the agency that pays for all that stuff. But will NOT pay for some life-saving surgeries. Selective Service Identification is still punshibale by law...TRUMP is president we have no idea of what kind of Bullshitt he going to pull. And lastly, the armed forces have had a reduction in force and in a time of war...refer back to 45 tweeting insanity. SMILES

  • Mrs. (Asexual) Elmo¯_(?)_/¯

    Why ? Thats the dumbest thing I ever heard.

  • http://ebonynsweet.com Ebony N’ Sweet

    well.. I don't believe military dollars should be spent on sex reassignment surgeries, But they should be able to serve. They also shouldn't spend millions on Viagra pills either. Who are they having sex with to need the pills If they on a military base with only men? lol

  • Shira Harding-James

    Yes we have lol sorry if I'm coming off strongly nothing personal! I'm smiling, I hope you're doing the same!

  • Fire & Ice

    As much as I hate to agree, this is the right call. Too many vets aren't getting proper services, that they deserve!!! We can't be wasting tax dollars on assisting someone who either wants to chop off their c*ck or add one. Pay for your own damn surgery! Furthermore, the only man I want to shower with is mine!

  • Ryan

    Wait - black women's ire over hairstyles? Please oh please elaborate.

  • Miami8981

    You know what, I like your explanation that know one really knows.

  • Faithz

    Well stated and on point. Trump is like a loose cannon, He's the "Loose Cannon" President. He is stuck on stupid , and he's working Overtime, to try to destroy the Nation with his hate, greed and wanting to try and erase the last ten years from History. He want a "White Only America", and he is dead set on making the poor pay the cost of the last ten years. But Just as a man is walking his dog down the side walk with a Leach around his next, and the dog start jumping around trying to get off that leash, and the man pulls up on the leash to control his dog , that is how GOD HAS A LEASH around the White House and Trump's Neck, and GOD can pull up on it whenever he get good and ready, Watch and see because things will/can turn on Trump, for worst if he keep setting traps for the white house to have to get around.

  • Li

    It's amazing that someone who's been serving for years is now going to be given their marching papers. If they were grandfathered in, IMO it's okay to stay. But from what Sandra writes, the ones already there will be given their honorable discharge. I wonder if they can appeal?

  • Li

    Well for sure, Trump is reversing everything, I mean everything that Obama did.

  • Li

    I hate that Trump bashes Obama every time he gets a chance. Obama did this, Obama did that. Trump is mean spirited....and a bit crazy.

  • Li

    I believe that's what Trump wants. Our military to be like Israel's and everybody serve.

  • oyeyemi808

    WRONG, all the blacks I know who voted for President Obama felt great. Try again!

  • Faithz

    I feel what you are saying... But on the same token as long as the soldiers are following the Arm Services, Policies, Rules and all the Regulations let them be a horse pulling a buggie, as long as they are doing their Jobs. I think being Ghey is a Shame/Sin before GOD, but we have had people in our Families who didn't know what in the f*^& they wanted to be ghey/straight, But as a family you have to Love them in spite of their MESS,
    I AM JUST SAYING.,
    PS
    I DO respect your opinion, though.

  • Faithz

    So right, it is eating him alive to know that Regardless to weather a person like Obama or dislike Him , many around the World Loves Obama, and that in itself is eating Trump alive.

  • oyeyemi808

    Sandra you and 45 are the one's who are "gender confused"! Self hating bitch take yo ass back across the pond.

  • Zeta Phi Beta 1920

    Female soldiers were instructed to tolerate men in showers to build “dignity and respect” for “transgender Soldiers.”

    If this statement is true ( NI, I ain't Googling - I agree)
    I worked Hospice & saw people in their 30s & 40s die because of THEY LOST THEIR HEALTH INSURANCE. I never cared for the government paying for these operations.

  • oyeyemi808

    Ummm OK, like when blacks couldn't serve in the military?

  • Faithz

    Great Read... And this is going to make so many want to not enlist for Service going Forward. I remember when it was almost (Draft) Mandatory to go into some Branch of the services. Many of the Young-ins want even bother to enlist, and if something Happens Really Bad, GOD FORBID, Then who is Trump going to get to Enlist to go into service to fight a War that will never be won.
    Them Rag Wearer in those Foreign Countries are never going to stop Fighting, and Kim in Korea is a TOTALLY different story with His Fat Bogus want to always fight as., Kim act like he HATES TRUMP. I suppose they Both Recognize Stupid/Bullies when they see each other.

  • Faithz

    That is so true, and Many are not having them Surgeries as fast as they'd like to. Make the Law that the Government isn't going to pay for it, and leave them Gheys, Transgenders along and let them keep Protecting the Country.

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  • Justlooknout

    Look iono any trans folks. But that damn Trump gonna turn on everybody. He a snack and a rat.

  • Faithz

    I so agree with you, Trump is a "Nutz Case" Watch how when he's talking he talks with his hands, and closes his thumb and the index finger to make a zero, and that's what he is a ZERO, I don;'t give a care if they put a Poka dot horse in the white House , their Agenda should be to Move the Country Forward not Backward.

  • Faithz

    He sure has.

  • Faithz

    Yes indeed, are stay away from service, to want to have that change over sound like they have some lose screws in their head, are their Elevator is three bricks shy of a load.

  • Faithz

    You are so on point, and the things going on around the nation.

  • Faithz

    True they need to be banned from get go.

  • Quitedeliteful

    The military should not be required to pay for sex change operations and hormone treatments -- soldiers have to spend their own money on these procedures. I don't think the trannies that are already serving in the military should be ousted if they have been doing their job satisfactorily but the last thing any soldier needs is to worry about showering with the opposite sex. This opens a whole can of worms that is just unnecessary and should be avoided.

  • Faithz

    Preach Tell the Truth, and shame the devil~

  • TeeTee

    I agree - for more than one reason and I am in a same - sex relationship. That does not change the way I feel about it either

  • Liah

    I agree; Im prior military (USN) the controversy it would caus ein the ranks I couldnt even imagine; In time of war you should be focused on taking care of your country I truly beleive It would cause too much distraction....

  • Liah

    Immediately!!!

  • Simone

    You are born Black. Transgender/sex changes or whatever are a choice. Don't insult Black people by acting like they're the same thing.

  • Pootietang

    Good!!!

  • ouzad D

    If they want to fight and die over these man made wars and power grabs let them serve.. let them opt to use there money for the surgery instead of the supposed free college bait they use to trap the poor white and minority folk into enlisting.

  • Simone

    President Obama overturned most of President Bush's policies. When you vote for a president, you vote for his agenda for the nation. It's not President Trump's responsibility to preserve Obama's legacy. I absolutely love this transgender ban in the military.

  • Fire & Ice

    It's not the same thing, so stop it! If gay and lesbians want to serve, so be it. Transgender is a whole other complicated issue, and you know it.! Furthermore, stop comparing the struggles of blacks to that of transgenders. They can choose which side of the fence they want to be on.....we don't!

  • hottlanta

    Yall should be mad about that little ole $100,000.00 check that Dump gave to the Department of Education as part of his pledge he kept about donating his salary. That check isn't anything compared to the money he is making off the government especially with the government paying to rent at Dump Tower. With all of those cuts he made to the Department of Education give them some of that money. Had the nerve to have it presented by education voucher queen no experience Devos and female Gomer Pyle Huckabee. Dump has had quite a day today as far as making announcements pissing folks off.

  • hottlanta

    Can't wait until they put used menstrual pad holders in the men bathroom stalls. See how much a lot of them like the bathroom controversy then. You know we hate them because some women are filthy. Wait until they experience what we experience.

  • Tay Gee

    You know we have to have at least one group to make us feel superior, lol

  • hottlanta

    Being black is a race. Being gay or transsexual is an act. Don't even try it. It is amazing when black people talk about our struggle folks roll their eyes and say there they go again talking about that black stuff but they are the first one's to throw/pimp our struggle and throw it out there to validate their points but black folks can't do that without being criticized. Since you want to compare suffering stories since gays and trans genders compare themselves to black folks struggles why aren't they fighting to abolish the Voting Rights Act since we all are one.

  • Quitedeliteful

    LOLLOLLOL!!!!!! Men would be fainting everywhere!!!

  • hottlanta

    I would love to be in the next stall just to hear the scream. ROTFLMAO just thinking about it. I bet they go in their right bathroom then. You know somebody right now is mad as hell because they got a body part surgery that needs to be done Friday and they can't get it done now. Home Depot gonna be loaded now for real.

  • Waya Hedia

    no one wants to fight 'and die'.

    "financially beholden to Russia"

    Liberal fantasy #123987

  • Rhyme and Reason

    I simply can't believe all the sudden rights and attention transgenders have gotten (paid surgeries, hormone treatments, but Vets died waiting on surgery), and Blacks right to vote still has to be amended. I agree with this Trump decision, but not to exclude the ones who are already transgender and currently serving.

    It's too complex for gray areas because so many trans are perpetually transitioning or have a change of mind. No other group should lose their rights to give another group a right, like co-ed showering or bathrooms.

    Not to mention the high incidents of rape already in the military that goes unpunished or under-reported! There would individuals to take advantage this access!

  • Waya Hedia

    almost a year. not 'years'.

  • Waya Hedia

    OH God. Obama was the only President in many many years who had war raging for his entire term.
    The military doesn't need you if you're not gonna fit in a cost them more money than the next soldier.
    "So let these judgemental racist soldiers get on the front line and get blown up"

    asshole. Plain and simple.

  • Waya Hedia

    "used menstrual pad holders"

    I think men are used to garbage cans. Don't worry.

  • ouzad D

    Blissfully ignorant towards a man that gives two fucks about you..just continue to vote against your own best interest and save your pennies when your health care is snatched and you cant afford to put poor mommy in a nursing home

  • http://sandrarose.com SandraRose

    I wouldn't be surprised if the Trump administration played along as if they were pro-trans just to get the trans soldiers to reveal themselves in the military.

  • Waya Hedia

    My health care has already been 'snatched'. I won't pay $1500/mo for it with a $10k deductible. You see, I am self employed and ACA fkd me and many others right out of it all.

    Mommy is 92 and she still mows her own lawn. I have a nicer place for her right here.

    What else ya got?

  • dontgetblocked

    I missed have missed the eight checks $100,000 Obama gave to anyone???

  • dontgetblocked

    We don't need that kind of bullcrap in the military. The money needs to go to veterans and those wounded during military operations. Instead we're paying for sex change operations and Hormones. Another bad policy by Obama. Glad he's gone. #MakeAmericaGreatAgain!

  • On the radar….

    Trumps ignorance is astounding. Simply tweeting what you want to happen doesn't work that way. That decision has to be put through senate and they have to vote on it. That's is not going to happen. He is trying to find funding any way he can for that Wall.

  • dontgetblocked

    Preach Mrs. Hot

  • On the radar….

    They could care less about veterans.

  • deadellamore

    Trump is a hateful evil man! If someone wants to fight and die to protect this country then let them! Discrimination against one group is discrimination against all groups! #IMPEACHTRUMP

  • Skin Deep Beauty

    EXACTLY! Pay for your own shat. Dont expect the world to cater to your mental meSs. Who GAF about what your sexual ID is ...JUST DO IT AND STFU and go on about YOUR LIFE. BYE !

  • Skin Deep Beauty

    Yup!

  • Elevated Soul

    Obama needs to be bashed because he is interfering with President Trump's administration....You Obamabots are just too stupid.

    Obama was nothing but a globalist puppet and it was he who set this country back especially Black people....

  • hottlanta

    We got some nasty heifers in the women's bathroom. It ain't about flowers and that fresh clean Pine Sol scent smell either. They will soon find out for themselves. I go into the men's restroom myself to get away from those nasty women.

  • Waya Hedia

    ha!

  • Waya Hedia

    It's a kind of appropriation when they do that. The drama queens. Pisses me off.

  • Waya Hedia

    Now that DADT is gone, they only have to ask.

  • hottlanta

    But, but, but, but Obama. Always trying to go back to Obama when you have nothing else. Try to put Obama reading skills up against Dump. Obama can read Dump can't and yet money suppose to give us the best and the brightest. The nation deserves a refund. No wonder he picked Devo over the education department.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WfaXILOSEf0

  • Faithz

    So true Auntee, I wouldn't put nothing past
    the Trump White House. Trump wants to be on Mount Rush More, are at least he Joked about being on there.

  • Faithz

    Trump may be doing this so he can Fund His Border wall, he bragged so hard about.

  • deanya

    Lol yeah no but good try ??

  • deanya

    Lol I love it cause u thought putting the definition proved something ?? u can't tell if someone is bipolar from 2 comments I mean if they could do that there would be lot less undiagnosed people out in the world.

  • deanya

    You can't even say which "symptoms " I show ??? just one of them ??? u stupid bro

  • Joi Calloway

    You truly are just dumb! That's not a definition. Its me offering you some knowledge of mental illness. Clearly you need it! You will have to do your own homework.

  • Mike Love

    It doesn't have to go to the senate it's an executive order he is the commander and chief of the armed forces

  • http://sandrarose.com SandraRose

    "That decision has to be put through senate and they have to vote on it."
    -------------
    Wrong. Trump is the commander-in-chief. Which means he is over the military; what he says goes. Obama didn't need a Senate vote to implement his dumb transgender military policy.

  • BlackGirls EatGreen

    Female soldiers have been tolerating the epidemic of rape and sexual harassment in the military. Who has been raping them, the transgenders or the men in the military who have their own bathrooms? The military has far bigger systemic problems than a statistical handful of trans people.

  • Joi Calloway

    I just can't argue with stupid! Your making my head hurt with your stupidity.

  • BlackGirls EatGreen

    Yes he is reversing everything AND not replacing it with anything better. He could have said, "When you enter the military your self-reported gender remains until the completion of your service, should you strongly desire to proceed with any medical changes to your gender, after approval by medical professionals including psychological evaluation, you will be honorably discharged from service. The military welcomes all Americans but will not facilitate surgical transitions at this time."

  • Rhondalousey

    It has to be voted on. He cant just tweet and then BOOM.

  • BacktolurkingIgo

    Omg he is an arse.....just wow

  • Rhondalousey

    They were made to serve at first because the whites were getting killed by the thousands.

  • Mojo2

    The question is, when do the transgenders want to join the military? Is it before they transfer over or after their transgendering is complete? The last thing we need is a transgender in process of switching over geting all that hormonal therapy, and they be carrying big guns?!?! Miss me with that shit.! Are they going into the military because they can get free surgical transgender-ing (that WE pay for).?? The transition is not cheap. Military life is tough, a person going through surgical procedures would not be able to keep up.

  • Mojo2

    What's funny (sad) is America is way down the list educationally speaking. Our scores are abismil and not just for the past 6 months. We suck. America has kids graduating high school that can barely read. You have school in Cambodia with dirt floors beating our kids in test. This has been going on far too long and trust the Dems & the Repub a$$ holes in DC know it but don't care.

  • Mojo2

    That ACA has screwed many. Five years ago we got screwed by so many doctors leaving the profession because it cost them money to go to work.

  • On the radar….

    No, because it would violate the Constitution’s equal protection clause and the Administrative Procedure Act.

  • On the radar….

    tweets are not executive orders

  • BlackGirls EatGreen

    I hope you are aware that the issues with the rising costs in the ACA are because REPUBLICANS refused compromises to put in limits because they wanted the ACA to fail. Right now every plan they are coming up with is even worse with projections of costs being up to 4x what they are now for elderly, if the repeal/replace works, insurers will be able to charge 10x. The ACA needs to be fixed not repealed and replaced with nothing or with something even worse. A simple 5 minute google search will provide you with the information on how the Republicans have been sabotaging the ACA right from the beginning so they are not going to fix it.

  • BlackGirls EatGreen

    DWL True but in the mens room there are nasty men too and they use their willy wacker like a water hose. So sometimes the choice is between a used maxi pad in the womens room or a visit to pee town in the mens room. LOL

  • BlackGirls EatGreen

    News reports are that the Military leaders were blindsided by this. They had no plan in place for self reported transgenders already serving or in the enlistment process. There were no meetings about this so that they could message this properly and prepare. Conservative leaders are stepping up saying they disagree with this. Apparently, enlistment numbers are down and they want more people no matter what their orientation. The way I see it Trump is breaking things that work and ignoring things that are broken. Rape and sexual harassment are a far bigger issues in the military. Of course Trump, being a sexual harasser himself, isn't worried about that.

  • On the radar….

    Not surprised. The one thing he's been good at is blindsiding everyone on both sides, especially republicans.

  • Allihave2say

    Here's a flip that I don't understand. The government can allocate funds for lifetime hormone injection to cover a mental illness that doesn't need fixing but is elective in essence, but won't help nuclear normal families pay for IVF.

  • Mojo2

    I wish u were correct. Since this is in my field I have to inform you that you are completely wrong. The republicans, feekless as they are, had nothing to do with ACA. I don't know where u are getting your incorrect information.

  • On the radar….

    There are already over 15,000 serving now...lol!

  • Allihave2say

    What about reverse rights? I might not want to look at the genitals of a man while I'm taking my shower or on my cycle. As stated before these people are taking hormones that can affect them in ways during combat that can be detrimental to their peers. Imagine men taking estrogen and crying while shooting targets and fish! Please with this sympathy.

    Everyone is being forced to surrender their rights so these few can have their choice.

  • BlackGirls EatGreen

    The military currently spends 84 million dollars annually on erectile dysfunction medicine, according to a Military Times analysis. But I guess that's ok? BTW The yearly projections on sex reassignment surgery are far lower than that. Of course the President could have just said, "We accept transgenders in the military but we will not pay for reassignment surgery".

  • Allihave2say

    Change parts may be minimal because it's a one time deal when it's done it's done but what about the cost of ongoing hormones and psychotherapy?

  • Allihave2say

    Who's protecting those of us who accept our birth gender? Why must women bathe and toilet in the presence of men? Where is their choice?

  • BlackGirls EatGreen

    @tcwade:disqus I see your point but not allowing in transgenders isn't going to make the military suddenly pay for IVF. If anything we should be upset about the 84 million spent annually on erectile dysfunction medicine! That is riDICKulous.

  • Mojo2

    Let me be more specific. Forget the Dems or Repubs. The ACA itself is awful. Yes people have health insurance but they didn't have health care, there is a difference! At this point in time, for working folks, it's NOT AFFORDABLE and that was the point. To make good health care affordable, a complete fail.

  • BlackGirls EatGreen

    I wish you were correct. Since this is in MY field I have to inform you that you are completely wrong. The ACA was based on RomneyCARE, a Republican plan. Obama, being a status quo corporate Democrat, specifically chose this plan because it was very middle of the road and would not push corporations too far. I am shocked that you aren't aware of this. Republicans blocked the Medicaid expansion in the ACA in Many states so that costs would be high. I don't know where you are getting your incorrect information.

  • On the radar….

    Not sure but definitely would be way cheaper than the cost of court and lawyer fees.

  • BlackGirls EatGreen

    @deadellamore:disqus We have people claiming to be concerned about being in the shower with transgenders who have no sexual interest in them, meanwhile their male counterparts have secret Facebook pages with female soldiers stolen nudes and sex tapes on them. Trump is really using this to distract from the real story going on right now https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/f0cff607198307ba9fc0385e30fcad819d4e10793e476c207d9db80dbc324792.gif

  • BlackGirls EatGreen

    Republicans and corporate Democrats have screwed Health Care, but if you think the Republicans are trying to fix it, you are riding the wrong horse. The Republican Health Care plan is just a tax cut for the rich. It will allow healthy young people to buy cheap bad health care(later when they are older or if they get sick their costs will sky rocket) It further penalizes people with pre-existing conditions and elderly with prices projected to be 10 times what they are now. Progressive is the party to follow, we need Universal Health Care, but the Republicans are going to wreck Health care and the economy like they have done every single time they are in office. They hand the masses a few moral victories against already disenfranchised groups and then they take health care, give huge tax breaks to the rich, ruin education, tank the housing market, and we go into a recession.

  • Jussjess25

    Wow.. Im not sure how I feel about this? Can this go against their constitional rights?.. I mean is this a form of discrimnation.. im not sure

  • indano

    So true!....Does the name Chelsea Manning ring a bell...lol

  • Mojo2

    Erectile dysfunction cannot be tolerated, is a crisis and must be fixed!!!

  • Mojo2

    I don't care if there in the military or not. I just don't want someone hormonal carting a BIG gun.

  • BlackGirls EatGreen

    LOL You are so right! But we know how to fix it with roots, herbs, and peanut punch. We make something called the "Hood Lifter", maybe I should sell it to the military LOL.

  • BlackGirls EatGreen

    What about women with PMS, I really wanted to hurt somebody yesterday and then right after I was crying over kitten loves dog videos on youtube. BTW men already have male PMS look it up, they be flashing too LOL I'm having fun now

  • Fire & Ice

    ????

  • Mojo2

    "Hood Lifter" lmao

  • Queen B

    I definitely agree with him on this shît i just dont see how transgenders are just so eager to serve the military anyway majority of their focus is something else and it damn show aint war ??

  • Queen B

    I agree with u but i miss the Obamas ?

  • Justlooknout

    I was ? 45 doing whatever to avoid Russia.

  • Mojo2

    And that's my point! I say forget the men and enlist only women, especially those with extreme PMS.
    There look alone will cut ya.

  • Elevated Soul

    Exactly!!!!...I'm so sick of these pro "gay agenda" people. They are annoying and just straight up hypocrites.

  • Elevated Soul

    I so agree and yes I too am hella glad Obama is gone.He was hella bad and especially so for Blacks who were rendered into a deeper state of sleep when that "globalist puppet" was in office.

  • On the radar….

    ?so women aren't 'hormonal? I doubt that's the last thing going through their mind when preparing for a war. Thats the same argument of why men didn't want women in the military. Since 9/11 and that whole weapons of mass destruction fiasco during the Bush administration, enlistment has decreased. Not many US citizens have faith in our government after losing many loved ones fighting for this country. Soooooo, while I understand your frustration it's unfair to say you can't fight for your country because we don't want to be bothered with you identifying yourself as a boy or girl. Because believe this, if Trump isn't impeached or resign as President, we will be going into another stupid war. I don't see straight men 18+ rushing to sign up.

  • Elevated Soul

    Correction: It's eating Obama and you silly Demoncrats alive that Obama was so thoroughly rejected via Hillary Clinton by voters who overwhelmingly chose President Trump.

    Many people around the world can't stand Obama...You fools need to leave that "Fake News" alone because you are so ill informed and you base everything your emotion.

  • sunni_daze

    Free sex changes.

  • Lucy

    Thank You!

  • Lucy

    Who is bathing and using the toilet in the presence of men? Last I heard we had separate bathrooms and showers!

  • Lucy

    To to black people trashing transgenders in the military:

    Ya'll kill me with this, At one point in time we weren't even considered human. We weren't allowed to read, right or vote. We were "less than" We were discriminated against in every way imaginable because we looked different. Now you have another group of people who are being discriminated against and the hate comes out. We, of all people should know what it feels like to treated as "less than" They aren't bothering anyone. All they want to do is live like everyone else. Stop being so angry at someone that has no affect on your daily life. These people that are upset are the same people that go to church every Sunday and preach about loving thy neighbor and not judging ...but here you are hating and judging. If they want to serve their country, let them.

  • Kayke

    Please don't you ever compare the treatment of people based on the color of their skin to mentally ill individuals. It's not the same. They can not wear their wig or makeup, stay silent and be fine..... We couldn't, we can't. Our plight was not based on how we accessorized or our mentality. You fool.

  • Kayke

    The Constitution said "All men".... Everything else is unconstitutional to be honest.

  • Kayke

    That's a problem all by itself. Viagra spending shouldn't be used as justification for not banning transgendered. It should be a separate item to be banned or at least not funded by the defense department just like transition surgery.

  • Kayke

    Our natural hormones that are suppose to coarse through our bodies cannot be compared to hormones that are foreign to an individual and often in higher doses than what a real woman posseses, in order to offset testosterone. In this case it's a reputable argument.

  • Lucy

    1. I'm not a fool, My opinion may differ from yours, but I'm no fool. You respect my opinion and I'll respect yours.

    2. I was was not comparing our struggle to theirs I was stating that of all people we should be understanding. We know what it feels like to be treated differently, that is not comparing our struggles. I know my history and I know our struggle, so don't get it twisted.

    3. Do you think they woke up one morning and decided Hey, I think I want to be transgender! I think I want to put on a wig , make up , get a sex change and be ostracized from society for the the rest of my life.

    No need to respond.

  • hottlanta

    I agree but when they break the polls down by race/money blacks folks at the bottom and rich whites at the top. So Dump is supposed to be the whitest/richest and went to the best schools. I guess the reason why some black folks stick to Dump so closely is because they know if Dump saw them in person he will push them aside the same way he did that guy overseas. So to vote for him because he is white/wealthy makes them feel good because that is the closest they are gonna get to a white man of his statue.

  • Kayke

    Once it's done it's not done. It's a forever healing wound that often has to be checked, cleared of scar tissue, almost all developed some kind of infection....it's stinks. It is also seldomly used for it's function as it's painful.... They also don't tell you the suicide rate for those who transition is higher than those who don't.

  • Kayke

    A man needs no proof other than the words "my gender is female" to gain access to female bathrooms. It's naive to think all of them actually have that mind state when no real commitment is needed .... Cut it off and commit before being allowed to do as females do.... And then rape wouldn't be a consideration for real women. Opportunists exist.

  • Kayke

    Fear mongering at its best......
    Let us let everyone do what they want so we can get to do whatever we want too. SMH.
    Fight for people, all people, for their inalienable rights .... We all have those regardless of our grouping .... This nonsense, human created nonsense.

  • Kayke

    *whether.

  • hottlanta

    When will the LGTBQ community apologize for buck breaking. Raping the black male slaves. The LGTBQ community goes around and act as if there is not blood on their hands. The slaves wasn't bothering anybody either. They were minding their own business unti someome came up with the idea of a boat to go across the water for free labor. I wonder will my black LGTBQ folks bring this to their attention. We all know the answer to that. Take your we are the world speech someone else because they ain't fighting for the signage of the Voting Rights Act for black folks since they know what it feels like to be less than. If it was somehting in it for them they would.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MWigLcAkZCI

  • Kayke

    "especially black people".... Yes.
    The Democrats took black issues off the table and replaced it with gay issues his entire stint in the Whitehouse.

  • Elevated Soul

    Obama and the Democrats are receivers and Black people have been deceived the most by them.....

  • Quitedeliteful

    LOLLOLLOL!!!!!!!!

  • HelloToni

    And what was his reason for this. Is it because of classification? Fitness testing, the medications I understand they need to take? What is the basis? Is this about bathrooms?

  • Elevated Soul

    That person is either just ignorant /brainwashed (or) he or she is gay and see themselves as gay first as opposed to Black ...Then again they may be just another gay White Liberal who pretends to like Black people, but will show will show their a**,when you don't agree with their gay agenda,especially if you're Black.....

  • http://sandrarose.com SandraRose

    As Sarah Huckabee-Sanders said, the military is to protect America, not to babysit or mollycoddle transgenders. Trump's ban will increase troop fitness, readiness, and morale. Women should not be forced to shower with gender confused men.

  • Mojo2

    Yes, and if they were thinking correctly and not just scratching their a$$es they would see IVF as future tax payers. A win win. Short sighted of them. IVF is way expensive. Maybe someone might start a company to help people have IVF that cannot afford it.

  • SouthernGirlAZWorld

    Although I'm not judging live how you want to live, being born black (not by choice) and wanting to transition into a different gender (by choice). We didn't just wake up one day and decided to be black, we have always been black.

  • SouthernGirlAZWorld

    Do you think erectile dysfunction and reassignment surgery are the same?

  • Mojo2

    White people live in our heads for free. Enough of that and that's over for me!! To move on ....Trump went to private school. I was talking about public schools. The white peeps aren't doing much better. At MIT most of the physicists (the same for engineering) students are not for America, they are all from overseas. That is BS.
    The Government, both money grubbing parties have a lot to answer for.!! You can ask a college kid today. "Who did America fight in WW2 or the civil war?" And they don't know shit???? When America was poorer everyone got a decent education. What the hell happened?

  • Mojo2

    Sorry, it was a joke. Next time I will label it "sarcasm" lol

  • Mojo2

    And the reason for the decrease, is they abolished the draft.

  • Allihave2say

    It's expensive about $15,000 per round but if the round takes in may be two sessions they're done so to speak. While the costs of generating reassignment are costly:

    Here are stats from website Heat Street:
    "According to multiple sources, the price of basic genital reassignment surgery (or genital reconstruction surgery) for a man transitioning to a woman ranges from $7,000 for a simple orchiectomy and vaginoplasty to $25,000 for orchiectomy and the more complicated colovaginoplasty. This is often, but not always, followed up by breast augmentation, which can run anywhere from $5,000 to $10,000. That’s a total average high of $35,000, but estimates for the two procedures combined have ranged from $10,000 to upwards of $50,000." Add to that the cost of ongoing hormones. IJS.

  • Allihave2say

    I didn't know of the ongoing pain from the new organs. I wonder if people get "ghost pains" from the missing organs - tied to the soul maybe. I see on YT people are talking about why they decided to stop transitioning or things they later realized about themselves and were glad they hadn't transitioned. This used to be a treated mental illness....

  • Allihave2say

    Have you reviewed the topic at hand in this discussion? We're talking about men who identify as women in the military being allowed to shower and use the restroom with biological females.

  • Mojo2

    I believe no one in DC is going to fix health care. They really don't care. They have their health care, that we are paying for. As they (congress or senate, too lazy to look up) told obama they could not afford the ACA and asked for assistance. They got it, we pay for them.

  • Allihave2say

    Go to time out! Right now! LOL! I know one doesn't cause the other. There are so many citizens who struggle with infertility and I think they should have addressed that medical need 1st.

  • On the radar….

    What I'm simply saying is that that is one of the reasons men in hierarchical positions in the military didn't feel women could serve.

  • Mojo2

    It was based loosely on Romney care and the important difference is it was state implemented as compareded to national. And the MOST important difference Romney care did not imposed penalties.

  • Mojo2

    "Not push corporations too fat" Lol. Are you serious? You really did to research how ACA affected employment. What about all the people that went from full time to part time? Research it, I always do both sides. Health insurance does not guarantee health care. Thousands still not covered by ACA I'm too lazy today to go into it.

    Bottom line: no one will fix health care to benefit the people. It will benefit the fat cats in politics, the pharmaceutical companies and etc.

  • Mojo2

    Yes, and many transgendered after leaving I'm fine with that. The job of the military is to protect, serve and win wars. It's not for a social gender engineering!! They complain about rape etc. now they are pushing for gender neutral showers and bathrooms!! Hell, so if I see a fine brother I can go into the common shower and check out the equipment - I'll lie and say I'm transgender ing!
    Lol Out of my way I'm gonna sign up. On a more serious note, there are way too many variables for me to come to any conclusion.

  • Mojo2

    Omg no idea it was that much for IVF!! All that surgery for transgendering? What is the recoup time? I had surgery and it incapacitated me for months. I'm cool with transgenders, except Bruce Jenner, and I love my gay friends. I'm just a little concerned about my reaction when the girl next to me in the shower; has a penis!

  • Allihave2say

    Yep! that's why a lot of them prostitute and escort to raise the money to get their procedures done. Now the government is paying for it but won't support real reproductive issues.

  • On the radar….

    The draft was abolished in 1973. The 9/11 attack is what pumped up many US citizens to join. Only after the fact that because Bush could not give reason as to why so many serving lost their lives for nothing did it decrease. Bush tried to reinstate the draft and it wasn't happening.

  • Lucy

    The military spends 43million on Viagra.

  • Maxima

    You do not know your history.

  • Maxima

    Good. Finally the lower, poorer classes are getting some protection. The rich don't fight for their country so they don't care about transgender. It ain't brain surgery: if you have to stand to take a wizz, you don't belong in the ladies room. Transgenders have all the rights everyone (except black folks) has -- they just want the right to have their sickness acknowledged.

  • Mojo2

    Thank you

  • Mojo2

    I do not remember people saying that Bush was going to restart the draft. I have read that some democrats had put a bill forward to reinstate the draft with the idea that it might get some people against the war if they thought that maybe their son might be sent over there. Research from reliable sources say NO.
    I do remember commenters saying doomsayers and predicting that Bush would get the draft going again. You may have had some friends tell you this, but I never read this on any website or in any newspaper. I have never heard it on the radio or on television. And this is coming from someone that can't stand anything BUSH.

  • Mojo2

    There was always shit talk about Bush and/or Obama. I didn't believe it until I could verify. Too much damn work.

  • lily

    Yes, well, it's too much trouble.

    Not that that is really the problem. The problem is that Trump,
    like his followers, can't handle anything that is "new" in the last
    100 years. If he could take the vote away from women, he would,
    unless he got to goose them first.

  • lily

    And you think that there is no reason why a person
    feels as though he has the wrong gender, except that he
    just "WANTS" to be the other way.

    How interesting. How very deep.

  • lily

    Good lord. What is your problem? Has someone
    ruined your life? Or what?

  • On the radar….
  • Queen B

    Frfr

  • Youshockedme

    They can serve as the gender that they were born....

  • SouthernGirlAZWorld

    Never said that and I'm not trying to be deep...it's an opinion. What I am saying is, it's their choice to change their genitalia amd whatever else they decide. I, didn't decide to be black that was already made for me...is all. The way I look at it is do what you want, doesn't matter to me at all, it's your life to love and live, but there is more likely than not going to be hell to pay because of it. Not saying it's right or wrong.

  • hottlanta

    I stand by what I said. The transgender movement needs to apologize for their part in slavery since they want everyone to apologize to them.

  • lily

    Let me guess. You are from the South. It shows.

  • hottlanta

    Yes I am a proud Southern girl who reads and knows that slavery was not just a Southern thang, There is a slave graveyard right up there in New York in the Manhattan area. Why does what I said bother you so much. You are taking it kinna personal as if I am telling a lie on the LGTBQ community. They are not above complaint. Black folks complain about other blacks all day and the world is happy but the minute we tell the truth about someone else folks get their panties in a bunch.

  • Arrissasso

    Shenanigans....if you want to serve then do it as your government name/gender. Why burden even more tax payers $s having to change the whole layout of systems already set in place?

  • deanya

    Lol yeah that's it dumb ass

  • deanya

    That is the definition lol you so stupid bro

  • Gotitbutsmh

    They have individual showers in their rooms. Even the showers in the gyms and such are individual. What in the misinformation world are you talking about? No need to ask if you have ever served or for that matter even toured a facility. And yes it is like that in Iraq, Afghanistan, Africa anywhere troops are. Stop it, the lies you tell. Just say you support the ban and leave it at that.

  • Gotitbutsmh

    Not to be rude but there is never EVER a time in your life that their gender has anything to do with your life.

  • Youshockedme

    Not to be rude but there is never a time in my life that I would become offended by a poster on a gossip site....secondly if you think that transgenders serving in our military is a big concern of mine you obviously aren't very wise...lastly no need to respond this is a gossip site not a place where I take people's opinion seriously. ..now please have a great Saturday. ..

  • Gotitbutsmh

    Nice deflection, you care. If you don't want a reply don't comment because like you said it's a gossip site.

  • Youshockedme

    Not a deflection I actually don't care about people's sexuality I replied because the comments were lit and I was loving every bit of it..and honey just like you I like gossip sites..so to be a little more clear I don't get offended by posters on a gossip site and going back and forth with you is senseless so go on with your day and enjoy it

  • Michelle

    this isn't true. I am in kuwait now and we just had a man in the shower incident

  • Gotitbutsmh

    Girl, stop. I was there also (left Dec) and our facilities still had individual shower stalls. Who's lying now?

  • HelloToni

    Smh. Thank you Sandra. I should have known....I thought they would at least come up with a believable excuse.

  • Funkenstein?Funk.????????™

    why all the accounts?

  • Simone

    Huh? I don't have more than one Disqus account