Joel Osteen

Pastor Joel Osteen finally opened the doors of his Houston megachurch after catching heat for closing the $50 million church in the aftermath of Hurricane Harvey.

Osteen, 54, tweeted a prayer to everyone affected by the storm on Saturday, but he was criticized for shutting the doors of his megachurch for 3 days.

"Victoria & I are praying for everyone affected by Hurricane Harvey. Please join us as we pray for the safety of our Texas friends & family," Osteen tweeted on Saturday.

The prosperity preacher remained silent as others called for him to open the doors of his massive church for hurricane relief efforts.

"if you were a real Christian, you'd be opening your doors to your displaced neighbors," tweeted one user.

Another user tweeted: "How are you guys helping the storm victims in Texas right now?"

Others noted Osteen's personal wealth is in the tens of millions of dollars, but instead of opening his doors, he is taking donations on his website.

A Twitter user wrote: "Here you go folks! You wanted Joel Osteen to take action, well he did. Church stays closed but send me your money!"



Some Twitter users trolled Osteen for ignoring the calls for help with flood relief.


Around 9 p.m. Monday, a Twitter user announced the church would open it's doors for flood relief. The Twitter user, @cmclymer, tweeted: "Lakewood Church apparently bought countless air mattresses and are prepping to open their doors. Took a while but good news. #JoelOsteen"

  • Pamela

    How very Christian of him. Praise the Lord.

  • ShWa

    It took people to criticize him for him to open those doors, wow....not a good look.

  • ShWa

    I'm first.

  • Kim’s Original Face

    he apparently blocked someone when asked why he had not open his doors. I do not know his reasoning for it..But I am glad he has not opened them. Houston needs all the help it can get at this point.

  • zeta4life

    Gm Rosays....ok after he said the roads were flooded...OK Joel...and what about Jakes and the Potter's house...and this bish (white) at work had the nerve to "wonder" what Beyonce doing...why...what the phuck you doing..I am not a beyonce fan by no account BUT IT'S VIRGO SEASON!!!!

  • Breitbart_Savior

    Why y'all acting surprised? This is par for the course with these co-called Christian leaders.

    None of them speak out when cops killed unarmed black men, so why would you expect them to open their doors when a natural disaster hits? The fault is yours for not seeing the signs long ago.

    What has the Christian church ever done for black people? Creflo $$ wanted $65 million dollars for a private jet so he could do "international ministry" but up in Flint, Michigan, the water is still pissy yellow and those old pipes are still rusted.

    Give me a break.

  • zeta4life

    THANK YOU!!!!

  • IAmLegend

    I still don't understand why or how people follow these so called pastors and make them rich without ever holding them accountable to helping the community. It's so easy to stand on a stage with a microphone and put on a show....I mean....preach to the masses. But putting your money and your personal time where your mouth is is completely different. I'm not surprised at all that he was unwilling to open his church doors.

  • zeta4life

    YOU BEST 2 PREACH!!!!!!...people will lift up a "man of God" before they lift up the "GOD OF man"...

  • darealwifey

    They could've set-up food and supply stations even if they didn't want people sleeping in the church. SOMETHING. But I'm glad they are doing something.

  • zeta4life

    THIS^^^^^^^

  • Breitbart_Savior

    Lol. We're so quick to say "well I'm glad they're doing something". Blah blah blah.

    I guess throwing a bone is always good enough for some.

  • Breitbart_Savior

    Well... has Joel Olsteen ever addressed police brutality from his pulpit?

    Asking for a friend....

  • sunni_daze

    No.

  • You Could Never

    It's NOW being used as a church. But This used to be the arena for Houston pro sports and events. And was previously used as a shelter during emergencies for years.

  • You Could Never

    I couldn't understand the uproar or pressure. But I had no idea this church used to be the sporting arena and event arena for metro Hoston. The Compaq Centet. So it already has been used previously for emergency shelter. Like their newer arena is currently being used.

    Torn on it. It's his to open. If the city wanted to keep it in their arsenal to use during times like this, they shouldn't have sold it to him.

    But stop being an ass Joel. Some man pure opened his FURNITURE stores to people in need there.

  • Noirluv45

    Maybe Pastor Osteen needed a little reminder from James 2:15-16:

    "15. Suppose a brother or sister is without clothes and daily food. 16. If one of you tells him, 'Go in peace; stay warm and well fed,' but does not provide for his physical needs, what good is that?"

  • http://thedevereauxshow.com/ Ms.Devereaux

    When will people wake up about these preachers and pastors smh some folks been giving 10 percent they while life and still gotta set up a go fund me for fune are garments when you get die. Don't seem like that 10percemt paying off in their favor

  • You Could Never
  • my view

    How was he suppose to open the doors if he didn't have enough staff to help with the people coming in for shelter? So just open the doors and let people run all up through there with no supervision or food and water?

  • my view

    He should open it when he has the staff to handle the crowd.

  • Noirluv45

    Well, here's how he could remedy that: He could've said, "Hey, we are willing to open our doors, but we don't have enough people to facilitate the countless people coming in..." At least give a reason, but to pray and send people on their way isn't cool.

  • You Could Never

    There is a shelter open in Corpus Christi that only has SIX volunteers. And yet THEY are open. That is how. You do what you can do.

  • indano

    We always begging the white man to help/save us, while talking shyt about them.

  • Noirluv45

    Tell her Beyonce is doing a lot. Evidently, she isn't keeping up. SMH.

  • my view

    Shelters are equipped to handle it the church is not.

  • Breitbart_Savior

    Well...white men used to enslave black women but rape them at his leisure.

  • Noirluv45

    Herein lies the problem: The church is not equipped. BTW, there are some churches that are equipped because they understand their purpose.

    I find it ironic that here in Fayetteville, there's practically a church on every corner, yet there are very few homeless shelters, and the ones that are open are filled to capacity. Many of these churches are begging for building fund money to make their churches larger, but who is looking out for the poor? If not the church, who?

  • You Could Never

    Joel can get his ass on the phone and call the Red Cross and say my church doors are open. Come and work this space. Bc they are 3k people over capacity across town at the Brown Convention Center. Its only equipped to hold 5k. there are currently 8k folks there.

    And Again, Joel's church used to be used as...an emerg. shelter.

  • my view

    If you didn't give any money to help pay for this church he brought then you have no say on what he should do.

  • You Could Never

    I did indeed say I was torn. Bc yes. Its his to do as he pleases. I said that below. Nobody can tell him. But dont say he isnt equipped as an excuse. NOBODY is equipped or prepared during times like these. If they were-- it would be called a disaster.

  • my view

    They sold it to him so it's his. The red cross is a bigger fraud so do your research.

  • my view

    How is the 6 people he has there suppose to keep order for 8k?? Again he should open it when his staff can get there safely and help the people in need.

  • McKay

    You are right about that...

  • You Could Never

    I didnt say one word on give money to the Red Cross. I wouldnt give them one dime. I am well aware of their history during times like this. But would I utilize their resources if I had a space to help people? Resources being their HUGE volunteer pool?

  • Cocoa Rose

    Well white men created this system of inequality and when blacks did have thriving communities white burned them down.

  • my view

    I agree 100%. He should have said something.

  • You Could Never

    Joel doesnt have 6 people. IDK how many folks he has. But there is a shelter in Corpus Christie that is operating with 6 folks manning it.

  • indano

    Agreed! Folks always talking shyt about what others should do with their property/resources.

  • Mr.LeBrickJames

    I agree. But some people are happy to take any opportunity to bash churches and/or preachers.

  • Mec-One

    Bruh, get outta ya' black & white feelings. This was a natural disaster that happened to more than just blacks. Not to mention, it wasn't just blacks that called him out

  • You Could Never

    It was actually more whites calling him out. Add in the white ass media and there you go.

  • Lucy

    He is a man of God and is suppose to help the needy .Doesn't matter if you gave money or not. Jesus lived as a pauper , he lives like a pimp!

  • Noirluv45

    Exactly.

  • Kanyade

    I would think the first inclination of a man of God in a situation where his parishioners were in need, would be to help, to show love---which has hands and feet---and to pray, not tweet. This goes for pastors of megachurches and pastors of churches so small there are only two or three gathered together. Help those in need. Jesus did it and did it well.

  • Oretta Grace Smith

    And that same white man built his church off asking for money from black!! So you wash my hands, I'll wash yours.

  • Noirluv45

    OK, you must be a member of his church because your defense of him is irrational. What does his role as a pastor/spiritual leader have to do with how much money someone's given to his church considering the man's a millionaire?

  • StoneColdLady

    But they ARE a shelter, so things should be already in place

  • Noirluv45

    Being a Christian, I, personally, don't bash churches and preachers unless there's a reason. Paul bashed a lot of churches and preachers when they weren't doing right. It's all about being an example, and let's face it, the church, in many ways, isn't looking to good.

  • Oretta Grace Smith

    As well as blacks destroying their own communities!!! We MUST do better, MUST!!!

  • my view

    He had six people at the church during the storm. Y'all do know his staff was at home during the storm and couldn't get to the church?

  • You Could Never

    actually its not already a shelter. Its a school being used as one. 90% of these shelters in times are disaster are NOT already shelters. They are schools, convention centers etc. that are turned into shelters.

    Im trying to figure out how do yall gather that?

    http://www.kens5.com/news/local/houston-businessman-turns-furniture-stores-into-shelters/468756080

    This place(s) wasnt a shelter, but it is now.

  • Noirluv45

    Naw, it ain't about "we" Oretta. If you want to talk destroying their own communities, I can give you countless examples of Whites doing that very thing, but of course, no one wants to talk about that. Drugs have ravaged White America -- rich and poor. Child and spousal abuse and other unimaginable things that happen in White households would make the hair on the back of your neck stand up. We are doing fine; it's them and those who destroy their own communities, regardless of color, that must do better. JMO.

  • my view

    Not at all. I live in CT nowhere near TX. My lil church does more for the community in our area that will make all mega churches look small. But thats not the point

  • Noirluv45

    OK. Well, I'm glad to hear your church is actually doing instead of talking.

    The point, to me, is that churches/pastors are supposed to do the work Jesus did. Am I right or wrong? They are supposed to be examples to the world. Right or wrong? Sadly, many have fallen by the wayside; therefore, people have little or no respect for the church. I think that's the point. No?

  • StoneColdLady

    I agree that he/ his church SHOULD do something; however I am wise enough to understand that things take a LITTLE planning in some instances. Maybe he had to secure enough volunteers to facilitate the influx of people needing assistance, maybe he asked for donations to secure enough food, toilets, personal items, air mattress, etc. for the thousands that would be coming. Maybe he needed to clear out "safe" spaces to house the people. Maybe he was praying and formulating a plan of action. Maybe he was checking on "his members" first. Maybe he doesn't care at all, but I find that difficult to believe since it's my understanding that his church feeds the hungry weekly and he opened the doors as a shelter during the last major storm...but idk

  • Noirluv45

    True, but I don't know if he said that. According to his tweets, he said they are going to pray.

  • Oretta Grace Smith

    It seems, WE ARE in a worst shape than others, when it comes to our communties.

  • Jacquelyn Eff

    He was waiting on yalls donations

  • nick c

    Those mega church pastors and its congregation know what's up, it's all about money and status.

  • Oretta Grace Smith

    I even reached out as a single parent and I know I don't have Osteen's money or building!!!

  • Lorenzo Chaps

    Damn, imagine being forced to practice what you preach about every Sunday for years.

  • Lorenzo Chaps

    I think you're speaking in general and not Osteen specific??

  • Ms Thang

    And he also said he was waiting until all of the other places were filled up. Smdh

  • Look@m3

    yup, that's all I read was that the other shelters needed to fill up first.

  • You Could Never

    The main one in Houston....It is full. Its actually 3k people over as of this morning on GMA. In my Jay-Z Encore voice...What the hell are you waitinggggggggggg forrrrrrrrrrrrrrr (Joel)

  • StoneColdLady

    I get that and I'm not saying that he said that. What I am saying is we don't know what was going on behind the scenes. His church is also IN Houston and Maybe he needed to access the damage done to the facility, if any and come up with a plan to house and feed THOUSANDS...that's all I'm saying

  • Noirluv45

    OK.

  • Noirluv45

    Chile, that's just pitiful!

  • my view

    This is also true...all i was trying to say is i'm sure he had a reason for not opening the doors. yes he should have said something it would have been the right thing to do.

  • Luv Pitties

    Joel was blocking people left and right on social media when they asked why he wouldn't open the church. Then his church announced it was closed due to flooding, people were driving by and walking in the church grounds recording that was a lie

  • Noirluv45

    No, WE are not. What are you basing your information on? What you see and hear in the media? With the drug epidemic the way it is, we are not in the worst shape. Have you ever worked outside your circle before? Have you been out there in the real world outside what the media feeds you? I have. I see what goes on in other communities. When do you ever hear bout the good Black men, women, and children working hard in schools, businesses, and their communities? Again, if you are waiting for MSM to give you positives about the Black community, you'll be waiting a lifetime, but if you get out there and seek out the good, you'll see it ain't all that bad. Are there issues in Black America that need to be solved? Yes. There are issues in AMERICA that need to be solved. The problem is issues regarding others aren't racialized like they are with not only White folks being the culprit, but Blacks too. That's what I'm talking about. Let me say one more thing, if you think it's all bad in Black America, then, if you and your family are Black, you must be a part of the equation.

  • Noirluv45

    I hear ya.

  • imright

    organized religion ??

  • soujourn_erets

    He's a wolf in sheep clothing. Can't expect much from a false teacher.

    Joel and all mega preachers prays to Satan.

  • soujourn_erets

    He don't preach anything, that's why he ain't doing anything. He was quick to put a relief donation box on his website tho.

  • http://realitytea.com/ Lady Chatterley’s Lover

    Yes, but a TAX shelter.

  • Seek Truth Speak Truth

    The universal prayer is breathing. Take a deep breath in, hold it, think about the source of your breath and how it is a gift given by our creator that we didn't earn. Breathe out. Give thanks for life above all else ?? Repeat.

  • bashi

    Scamming continues church is a charity organization they don't pay tax . Hence it should be open for the people.

  • bashi

    Message

  • Ryan

    All those people displaced and he didn't want to open his doors to them cause they're not giving him money. Would rather let folks drown than help. A crying shame.

  • Ryan

    And to be honest he's always looked evil to me. Something's not right.

  • Zeta Phi Beta 1920

    I saw pics of the church super flooded.
    I bet the people who complained the most have done little to nothing to help. I know people like that.
    Well now they have opened their doors & have air mattresses.
    Now what?
    what are you going to do?

  • Vicki White

    Now ii just read that it wasn't flooded... But is was flooded. Why lie on him

  • Ryan

    Be happy that they're helping and support the community like they should? *shrug*

  • Lisa daniels

    Mega churchs are the the devil's playground. Creflo, Eddie, Joel and Jim are no good fake ass Christians.

  • ebonics

    YES!!!!! Slithering snakes..

  • ebonics

    He is evil, he is a false prophet. Prosperity preacher like mike murdock, TD Snakes, and em, they out for the dolla dolla bills yall ;)

  • ebonics

    WOOOOOOW what a piece of crap he is. My mom adores him and Joyce Meyer and would give her last dollar to them, it drives me crazy that she cant see thru the bs they spew.

  • Nakia Brown

    them complaining people probably dont live in $10M homes!

  • Zeta Phi Beta 1920

    Doesn't matter what type of home you live in.
    If the church is flooded & it was clearly stated, the church is in a flood zone and there are online pictures of the church being flooded, What?

  • Zeta Phi Beta 1920

    You would think but people who will not even send 5 dollars will still be miserable and complain.

  • Zeta Phi Beta 1920

    Chemical Imbalance.
    Hate the church.
    Hate Jesus.
    Hate anyone that remotely looks like their life is better than theirs.
    Demonic.

  • SouthernGirlAZWorld

    I can only hope that he spent the time to plan and acquire the items deemed necessary to house these people. What's the point of opening doors if you are not prepared and ready. It would be the Super Dome during Katrina all over again. He didn't have to speak on it or advertise it neither. Since we don't know if that was the case, I can't speak on it personally, but can only hope.

  • TheOwley

    This has nothing to do with Osteen, megachurches, race, money, being Christian, or some of the other peripheral comments being made not only here but other sites. The little that I know of him is that he does good works. Perhaps this is a lack of foresight on his behalf as well as the church administrators is more to do with a huge lack of coordination with the City of Houston in what to do during a disaster of this dimensions. Did the city have a plan for Harvey???

    I'm inclined to think most people took off. I would have. If I owned a gym with a big basketball court, did I leave it open for those displaced to walk i? Was he supposed to open the doors of an unattended church to be occupied by those displaced. Did they have a plan? What do you think? Who is ensuring things go smoothly, food, safety and security, and shelter when the owners have left. In the future they will do better, set money aside for cots, location for housing people, food, security, staff people that volunteer to stay behind, etc. We need to be logical about these things.

  • StoneColdLady

    Thank you Zeta!

  • Dontgetdraggedhoe??

    I detect no lies bih!

  • Dontgetdraggedhoe??

    Same

  • StoneColdLady

    Ok I've been wanting to ask this for a while to someone who feels this way: should churches turn people away after they reach a certain number? I'm not trying to be argumentative but MANY people share your view on "Mega" churches BUT many of these churches didn't start out this way so what should happen

  • https://twitter.com/Chicagowise Chicagowise

    “Victoria & I are praying for everyone affected by Hurricane Harvey. Please join us as we pray for the safety of our Texas friends & family.”

    Sometimes, prayer is nothing more than another form of apathy. People who use prayer as a default response to a crisis, are full of sh/t.

    I have NEVER heard my mother pray, ever. But when the sh/t hits the fan, she is the first person to roll up her sleeves and get to work.

    When I was a child, we often had unfamiliar "cousins" living with us. I later discovered these were children whose parents were in jail, rehab or dead. On numerous occasions, my mom would come home, remove all the food from our kitchen and give it away to some hungry soul, embarrassingly waiting outside.

    If heaven did exist - and it does not - it should be filled with people like my mother, not fake @$$ Christians who pray while people drown.

  • http://ivyleaguelove.tumblr.com/ Applebootay

    Another click-bait...what if he was making sure he had a church for folks to come to or that he was preparing for the people? The media/SR will spin any story anyway they can..

  • Oretta Grace Smith

    I am a retired teacher of 28 PLUS years, have seen us forever, EVER!!!

  • Ms Thang

    There's videos on social media that people have posted at the church and it is dry. The basement was flooded. There's videos showing that the church is fine.

  • Ryan

    There will always be people like that. Nothing new.

    In the meantime I'm sure that the people of Houston are grateful that the church has decided to help the very community that they pull money from.

  • Ms Thang

    That was the basement the rest of the church is fine. If it was so flooded, how are they setting up air mattresses? There's videos showing that the church is as dry as it was before the storm.

  • Ms Thang

    Thank you. People still trying to say that the church is flooded but now they're setting up air mattresses.

  • Peter Piper ATL

    And yet, the doors are STILL closed. Behold your heroes, people. Jesus is not within these people.

    The church today is a fundraising operation with the pastors and deacons reaping the harvest of your donations. Then again, its pretty much always been that way. Read up on The Pope's "indulgences".

    Newsflash: God does not need your money. But the preacher's wife and his girlfriends sure do. Oh, and his boyfriend too. How else would they be able to maintain their lavish lifestyles, keep up those German luxury car payments, and rear all those secret love children?

    P.S., Joel Osteen looks like a sissy.

  • SweetTEE

    Listen, you told nothing but the truth. Reminds me of why I stopped attending here. All these extra popular pastors who are praised like they are God, people throwing money on the alter, "fundraisers", pastors and their kids driving the best cars and living in mansions while there members are barely surviving.

  • Karen G

    Prayer is phase 1. Action comes afterward. I'm sorry you do not know the power of prayer. My churches many ministries and pastor are very active in the communities. Also, my pastor is not lavishly living or flashy. Neither is his wife. They are very loving, generous and humble. Don't judge all pastors by the "Hollywood" pastors you see on tv.

  • Ryan

    Just saw that the church made a statement saying they will open when the city and county shelters are at capacity... they REALLY don't want dem po' folks in there. This is just flat out pitiful.

  • Oretta Grace Smith

    And that's what he been doing for years, collecting money!!!

  • Oretta Grace Smith

    The preacher himself and failed!!

  • HotInCleveland

    Atheist here. Prayer is futile. All it does is make the person doing it feel better. If you pray for me, I'll think for you.

  • SweetTEE

    He didnt want what happened to the super dome to happen to the church. Period, just be honest. Nonetheless, it aint like the money would come out of his pocket. My pastor didnt even want to help bury one of his deaconess who died of cancer & left 2 kids, eventhough she ALWAYS supported the church in everyway she could. He didnt have a problem buying his grown daughter & son-in -law a damn house though. Just trifling. Wont get my hard earned coins. Ill answer to God myself about that. The older I get, the more I realize how dirty the business of church is.

  • soujourn_erets

    True indeed

  • kgirl33

    ??????

  • country57

    I believe in the power of prayer, that being said I think your mother has a beautiful soul. Very uplifting reading her sacrifices. Peace :)

  • Zeta Phi Beta 1920

    They have machines that suck out water.

  • Blackmensandals

    That's why instead of the deaconess giving 10% to the church she should have given them 5% and bought some damn life insurance!

  • Lisa daniels

    I am still convince that Creflo Dollar is an old school pimp

  • Lisa daniels

    God ain't never been those buildings.

  • Noirluv45

    Right! You can't based life on personal experience only! You have to have a wider vision of the world because if you don't, you'll be stuck in a narrow-minded corner thinking their own people are bad. I'm in my 50's and I have seen us too, and my vision says it ain't all bad. If you wanna see negativity, have at it. Like I said, expand your horizons, quit looking at the negative, and you might see something beside your near-sighted view. You see the world based on your corner. Perhaps, my vision is wider than yours. Apparently it is or you'd see that it all ain't bad. The end.

  • Oretta Grace Smith

    "The end"! According to your views. Seems like your views are much smaller than my views. I can't be too narrowed thinking with 28 plus years of teaching. That right there gives me a wider arena of people in our community!!

  • Noirluv45

    Yes, you can be narrow in your 28-plus years if you've lived in a cocoon. So, you've worked in every state's Black community? If not, then, YES, you are narrow-minded. Let me explain something. My brother has been a teacher with the L.A. Unified school district for over 40 years, and I used to work for him as an instructor, and let me tell you, when he pushed those Black kids in South Central, Watts and Inglewood and supposed "bad" schools to learn science, those kids thrived! They'd go into the auditorium at lunch and sit and read. They were hunger for knowledge. Maybe you haven't seen that. The media sure isn't going to give you the positive narratives. Like I said, our experiences and mindset are based on our corner of the world. At over 50, I've lived a long time and have seen a lot, so, I'll just have to disagree that your 28 years of teaching gives you a wider vision of our community.

  • Oretta Grace Smith

    YOU DON'T know me one year, let along 28 years. My experiences with the black community is beyond my career!! I'm the only one who can educate you on ME.

  • Karen Brady

    PREACH. This is why I put a $5 bill in the envelope on Sundays. Nothing more, nothing less and I don't feel bad about it at all.

  • Karen Brady

    I remember a few years ago I believe it was World Changers congregation bought the pastor a BENTLEY for his b-day. Teeeee heeee. Folks pulling up in their Camry's Hyundai Sonatas, Civics and Altimas. Yeah, okay.

  • Karen Brady

    wow.. that last line is deep. I can't say I agree but I sure do get it.

  • Oretta Grace Smith

    YOU DON'T know who I am. I define that to you. My life experiences is beyond my career

  • https://twitter.com/Chicagowise Chicagowise

    I believe in the power of positive thinking, whether it's prayer, meditation, chanting, etc. I'm an atheist, but I am not devaluing the psychological benefits of believing in a higher power. However, when someone is in trouble, my first reaction is to do something. The first time I saw my mom empty our cabinets, I was like, "what are WE going to eat?" In that moment, I learned the value of sacrifice and paying your good fortune foward.

  • https://twitter.com/Chicagowise Chicagowise

    I don't have an issue with prayer. I have an issue with people who use it as a default response to a crisis... a crutch or an excuse to do nothing.

  • SumthinSweeter

    lol, well dang (0.0)

  • SumthinSweeter

    wow, your mom is a real life walking angel

  • SweetTEE

    Damn shame. We have a gym and daycare/school. Members have to pay for both..even though they are the ones that paid initially. Mannn...

  • SweetTEE

    From what I was told, she had insurance. Due to her getting sick suddenly, she couldnt afford it and it lapsed. She apparently asked for help with that too. I bet she regretted giving that 10 percent and more to those thieves while she was laying on her death bed afraid for her kids.

  • Noirluv45

    Oretta, you're right; I don't know you, but based on our discussion, I surmise a lot. We all base our reality on our senses. We all see things differently. It's clear that is the case with us, so we'll agree to disagree and keep it moving, m'kay. Peace.

  • http://ebonynsweet.com Ebony N’ Sweet

    He didn't want the carpet in his nice church to get dirty. And the restrooms are going to be a nightmare... *Sarcasm*

  • IamAllnatural

    In a disaster you don't need a plan. First priority for the people of Houston is to be rescued from the flood. At that moment they don't care about things running smoothly, they just want to get to a dry safe place. Osteen is supposed to be a man of God who serves his community, so he should've opened that church to help his community. He responded that he will open the church after the shelters are full. That's really sad that desperate people will have to pass his church to get to another shelter. I see why I never like this phony man.

  • https://twitter.com/Chicagowise Chicagowise

    I wouldn't call her an angel. LOL! Like everyone else, she has her flaws, but she is a very thoughtful, selfless, proactive person.

  • ArDnAhC45

    His members will remember this. Its been raining since Friday-Saturday, today is Tuesday. I agree w/@disqus_iWBDG7YQ36:disqus, he didn't want to have to go through what Louisiana went through at the Super Dome.

  • TheOwley

    Yes, you do need a plan. It's why FEMA was recently created. Why do you think they have millions of coffins and 20 to a coffin ready to go. It's for the big day when they can't have rotting corpses on the streets. When I say plan, I don't mean to follow something starting at a, then b, then c. It's good to know what places are considered rescue centers such as the super dome, etc. All hospitals create immediate schedules to rotate their staff (some don't go home if they can stay), etc. Each nursing home should have an evacuation procedure, not wait until the last second to figure it out. SR has a picture of a nursing home that has no clue. The plan should involve some personal involvement as well as heavy input from counties / states. Pick a state, then google their emergency preparedness programs. Most have it but the problem is that it is not exercised and practice. Who reads that since it's not going to happen to me.....right. I live in hurricane country and my plan involves a little bit of personal prepping to stay at home, get out if evacuation is in order. Is it perfect? No. But I try. People need to put the devil's face in this tragedy and they found Osteen to be a convenient scapegoat. Am I defending him? No, I know little of him. But I will put accountability where it belongs, everyone (except children, old folks, and the disabled).

  • Lady Elle

    According to what I heard...Olsteen still hasn't opened his church doors (not sure of how true this is or not)

    What about T.D. Fakes (Jakes) plenty people can be housed at his mega church as well. Hadnt heard anything about him offering shelter to those affected.

    And why are people asking where is Beyonce? Yes, she was born and raised in Houston and has already donated. But, she isn't your Lord and Savior...she can't save you.

  • Lady Elle

    ...true story! ?

  • Y GM

    WTF WAKE UP ppl!!! The lord isn't speaking to just 1 person or sittin in 1 place he is in everyone and everywhere. Just follow his lead and you'll be on the right path.

  • IamAllnatural

    Yes FEMA was created & plan for emergencies. But FEMA can't help everybody. If you see people desperately trying to escape a flood and you can immediately provide a safe dry shelter for thousands of people, open your doors and help your community. May God bless all of the volunteers who helped rescue the flood victims.

  • TheOwley

    FEMA on a macro level as an example. My comment was direct at what local organizations and churches, etc. can do. They many not have a plan and I think they should just in case. If the plan fails to execute, at least, they have a plan. They don't. I was raised with the mentality of thinking ahead and it works.

  • IamAllnatural

    I'm not surprised by his response. I was invited to see him at an arena in Miami a few years back. I didn't know much about him but when I've seen him on tv, I would always change the channel. I was in shock to see a packed arena with so many fans. Joel & his wife seemed so fake to me, like they were acting. His message was positive but his delivery wasn't genuine. Then those fans were emptying their wallets for him. I wonder how many followers he will have after this disaster.

  • Omandesert

    She should have invested that 10% for a rainy day.

  • Mr. Meeseeks

    I will keep my Jesus and prayers......

  • Ms. JUceeee BaaayBae

    When I was living in LA. I had family come to visit and they wanted to go to the "famous" West Angeles church where all the black celebrities attend...ummmm SMH! Let me tell you, it was a star studded event, limos outside and everything. If you would have closed your eyes for a second and opened them... you would have swore you were at the BET awards and not a church. I put the pedal to the metal, I couldn't drive away fast enough.

  • INDUSTRY GURU

    Yes very true, the church doors have not been opened, the pics posted are a PR, Delay tactic. Stalling for time,hoping it will pass over and shelter will no longer be needed.

  • INDUSTRY GURU

    His insurance requires an Emergency Management Plan.

    Even if it didnt his financial advisors and church council would ensure he put one in place. Flood territory and the size of congregation alone is enough to demand it.

    Truth is, my friend your comment reads like, a PR Firm response.

  • TheOwley

    PR? lol. Where is my pay? I did say I'm not defending him and it sounds more like someone being caught with his pants down, just like everyone else. I have a humongous fault of wanting to look at things fairly and in a non-judgmental way until I know what's up. Sorry I can't join you on the blame the preacher bandwagon. But you go ahead and ride on.
    My comment reads like someone who is not into groupthink nor looking for affirmation. It's just my opinion right or wrong, I own it. It saddens me when these tragedies occur and I look at our sagging infrastructure and lack of preparation and need to point fingers. But no, let's all crap on the preacher and his church, and is some websites, those awful Christians because it's just another opportunity to crap on Christians So pile on.

  • Queen B

    Hey now it aint Creflo fault bc if someone buy me a bently im smashing out

  • Queen B

    God bless you....i understand your point but prayer has serious powers. Im sure u do pray and its sad that u don't even know you're doing it

  • Allihave2say

    They are idolators who worship money and the go Moloch. They follow Joel because he makes them feel good and promises what their greedy hearts desire. He rarely references the Bible that's why he could only send a prayer with a request for more money. This is no holy god in him.

  • Allihave2say

    His same members, black and all will return to service when he doors swing open. We all know what Joel and Victoria are really about. He has very few blacks in leadership positions in his church but they fill the pews and tithe plates every Sunday.
    He didn't want his precious church over wrought with poor, smelly, down trodden people who can't contribute anything to the wealth of the church. They will be taking and not giving to Lakewood and that's an issue.

  • Queen B

    Lol naw btw Creflo started out in a cafeteria, then a very small church, now he has been blessed to have a mega church to share the word with other ppl. Oan during the sermons, he has NEVER stopped to ask for tithes/offerings

  • Allihave2say

    I noticed that you said "my pastor" and not my former pastor....ijs.

  • Queen B

    Exactly!!! Do theses idiots think a mega church was just given to a simple niqqa?! ?

  • Allihave2say

    I remember being in college with a child. I asked my former church for help with the light bill and they passed me around so much to the point I had gotten some money and paid the damn bill. They told me the church had no funds. Whelp I learned my lesson because the week before they ask every member for $50 I gave foolishly. The next week they gave Pastor Gene A Moore at St. Agnes Baptist Church a Rolls Royce for his anniversary and a Rolex watch. He bragged about wearing custom suits. That was my last service there.
    (oh yeah, allegedly, lol)

  • Allihave2say

    Matthew 7:16 And yea shall know a tree by its fruits

  • Allihave2say

    Girl World Changers is an whole mess of another kind. Creflo Gotcho Dollar and Holler Taffy Dollar are two amongst the fakes. They bought a beautiful church here in Houston that we visited for home school music. I prayed it would go away. Something happened and that church took it back and I was so happy. WC moved down the street to another church. I still fulsome kind of way but I don't know that church.

  • Allihave2say

    Mattress Mack owner of Houston's Gallery Furniture Stores made a public announcement days ago upon the first awareness of the devastation the store was predicting to bring, that both his stores and warehouses would be open as shelters to anyone who may become displaced as a result of the store. He prayed and backed up his faith and compassion for people with action. When God spoke Words things came into existence. Whe Joel spoke his words he didn't speak any actions into being. He never pronounced anything in the name of God/Jesus to be done. he does not know the language of God.

  • TheOwley

    One business owner was generous with his place. My question is this? Where they all and do we know why some were not. How many churches are there in Houston. Did they all open doors for people to stay if they could get there. All businesses, etc. What were the reasons for this one church not springing to action. I still believe it's poor planing all around, no foresight, and being caught in the magnitude of the event. But we need to find blame and Osteen is it. And no, I'm not PR for anyone, but I'll let God be his judge.

  • Nancy Drew-Natural & Luv’n It!

    LMAO!
    You named the pastor And the church ...then said allegedly, smh
    ?????

  • https://twitter.com/Chicagowise Chicagowise

    No. I do not pray, and since I don't do drugs, drink alcohol or have any psychiatric issues, I am always cognizant of my mental and physical activities. I would know if I prayed. ?

  • charlottemarie

    No they won't.

  • SuggaB

    Ummmmmmhmmmmm

  • SuggaB

    Woke. Add that to the list

  • Queen B

    You're the devil then....I rebuke u in the name of Jesus ????

  • SoChlo

    I feel like when people say "I'll keep you in my prayers" that means "I have no idea what to say to your right now". Help me, don't "pray" for me.

  • Allihave2say

    You know you got to throw that in but it's all true. One of my best friends was in love with the pastor. frfr. The church built a huge gold dome and expanded, the bank foreclosed, they rented it from the bank and got evicted. They opened several subdivisions and credit unions in Pearland in the name of God. She still works for him. It's all about money we are no longer friends and I no longer attend the "church".

  • https://twitter.com/Chicagowise Chicagowise

    Everyone can do something. You may not be able to solve the problem, but you may be able to ease someone else's suffering.

    A long time ago, I had a very close friend who was dying. I couldn't do anything to stop that, but whenever we got together, I made sure he had a good time. I made sure he knew how much I loved him.

    Before he died, he admitted that he didn't like me when we first met! He said, he thought I was "stuck up." LOL! Then, he said, "but when I got to know you... I found out you were one of the sweetest people I have ever met and I'm glad you're my friend."

  • ?Royalty?

    I agree with you, but not the example you used. The Pope has nothing to do with Christians. Catholicism is a whole other ball game and Christians are very aware of the difference.
    People forget it was the Protestants(Christian Protesters) - who were targeted in the Inquisition.

  • ?Royalty?

    True. There are two sides to every story, but you know Christians aren't afforded that same benefit of doubt.

  • Imperfectly_perfect

    I love you??

  • ?Royalty?

    Preach!

  • BigCapacityCumDumpster

    This fukcc nigggga and his wife

  • NatTurner

    Thou hast said it. It is a sad commentary when spirituality is now measured by the coin of the realm. Where does all of the money that goes to religious institutions go? Do we really need to pay men to worship God.

    By the way, I am not against church. If people want one then fine. Establish a budget that is clearly for the maintenance of the church and a reasonable salary for the pastor. These mega churches seem unseemly to me and smack of exploitation.

  • NatTurner

    Congregation was stupid-period.

  • NatTurner

    You heard about the minister who presided over a finance meeting for his church. He said this is the way we divide the money in this church. He said that he would throw it all in the air and the money that stayed in the air was the Lord's, and the money that fell to the ground was his.

    Ridiculous. Right? What's more ridiculous that joke or a minister standing up and asking everyone for a 100 dollars without stating the purpose of the solicitation or the direct recipient of the funds?

  • NatTurner

    Or stepping off a city bus.

  • NatTurner

    His last name is Dollar. Need I say more.

  • NatTurner

    That is harsh and not true.

  • NatTurner

    No you didn't just go there. There is a book about "Pimps in the Pulpit". Reads like Iceberg Slim.

  • NatTurner

    Where there is no vision, the people will perish.

  • NatTurner

    No blacks in leadership? Interesting. That is why he mentions that same black guy over and over.

  • Lisa daniels

    Yes I did

  • Lisa daniels

    Well ninja lost the way

  • Queen B

    Anybody that's an atheist is the devil there's no other way around that

  • Queen B

    Lol so that's his fault

  • Zeta Phi Beta 1920

    Coma.

  • RealGzOnly

    So Jesus is in you because your holier then thou right and your position to judge what Joel do with his church?? ?

  • RealGzOnly

    Guess his church is the only one in all of Texas ......smh how ppl are condemning this man for reasons truly unknown and hold such high expectations for a man that only desires to teach the word of God not pretend that he is God.

  • INDUSTRY GURU

    Its the largest, he takes in Multi-Millions in donations, which in turn can use to help those in need.

  • TheOwley

    Sounds like our nation's history. Just a few more years and done.

  • NatTurner

    Judge not lest ye be judged.

  • NatTurner

    Nope. Just appropriate.

  • Nancy Drew-Natural & Luv’n It!

    girl I believe every word. and don't think for one minute that it's just the "mega" churches. those little store fronts and 'outreach' family operated churches are just as greedy. this I know for a FACT. https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/68bc52b2a4f54f3dc0d4dea29ec0c12c203c19b65d4d18beb2fbbd13d0be6a55.gif

  • Allihave2say

    I agree and on that day my entire expression of faith change. I never bought into the expensive life of a pastor and thought he was different. I made a "love offering". I learned to love my family and myself first. I make my contribution directly to people in need.

  • Queen B

    Im not judging im just being aware....i think Jesus will have my back on this one

  • ArDnAhC45

    You're probably right. They won't.

  • INDUSTRY GURU

    He has the largest church, the buidling is built on a incline , and safe a location above the worst damage.

    He has collected multi-millions over the years from donations, more so than any other charitable oganization in the city, perfect timing to use the millions in donations for those in immediate need!

  • NatTurner

    No, he wouldn't. He would tell you that he who be free from sin should cast the first stone.

  • Queen B

    No im not throwing stones but anybody who is an open atheist is open to demonic spirits....the devil

  • NatTurner

    Really? Did you know that atheists commit far less crime than proclaimed christians and believers in God? Evil acts are demonic.

    http://www.patheos.com/blogs/friendlyatheist/2015/08/21/atheists-now-make-up-0-1-of-the-federal-prison-population/

  • NatTurner

    Lk 20:45-47 (NET)
    20:45 As all the people were listening, Jesus said to his disciples, 46 “Beware of the experts in the law. They like walking around in long robes, and they love elaborate greetings in the marketplaces and the best seats in the synagogues and the places of honor at banquets. 47 They devour widows’ property, and as a show make long prayers. They will receive a more severe

    punishment.” ©NET
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  • Queen B

    Bro let it go one of my duties as a human is to have a judgement which helps me to determine who tf to stay away from...judging ppl is not always a bad thing especially when they have already told u who they are

  • Queen B

    Let it go

  • NatTurner

    I don't believe in it.?

  • SweetTEE

    My family is a founding family, grandmother is the mother of the church. I took all my classes so my wedding & funeral can be held at the church, but I have not attended in years and no longer donate.

  • NatTurner

    Let the church say Amen!!!

  • NatTurner

    No. His good fortune!!!