James White Justin Mann

Police arrested two Schenectady men and charged them with the savage murders of two women and two children in Troy, NY.

James W. White, 38, and Justin C. Mann, 24, were charged with multiple counts of first-degree murder during their arraignment in Troy City court Saturday morning.

Police say Brandi Mells, 22, her lesbian partner Shanta Myers, 36, and Myers' children Jeremiah, 11, and Shanise, 5, were killed inside Mells' tiny basement apartment around 9 p.m. on Dec. 21.

The bodies weren't found until 5 days later.

The victims' throats were slashed and their hands were bound behind their backs.

Troy NY victims

At a press conference Saturday morning, Troy Police Chief John Tedesco said one of the defendants knew the victims. He declined to give a possible motive for the murders.

"I don't need to speak about the horrific events that took place in that apartment, especially dealing with children," Tedesco said.

"I don't have to tell you what a good feeling it is to have these two in custody. It's a great relief."

The police chief said both men were arrested at Mann's apartment on Friday. Mann appeared emotional during his arraignment, according to the Daily Gazette.

State police Major Robert Patnaude said surveillance cameras, both public and private, helped lead detectives to the suspects.

"We're confident that we have the right people here," Patnaude told reporters. "We're confident that we're going to be able to put a great case together. It's going to get better as the days and months go on, as the forensic evidence develops."

White and Mann face life in prison without the possibility of parole if convicted on all charges.

  • imright

    glad these bastards was caught but i need to kno WHY !!!!

  • http://sandrarose.com SandraRose

    One of the men knew one of the women. I think drugs or money may be motives. We'll find out soon.

  • Noirluv45

    You know a person's has to be some kind of slithering demon to do that to people, especially children. Unbelievable!

  • Scromes1212

    That's just pure evil smh

  • OvertheMississippi

    I think both drugs and money.

  • Chaseboogie The Prince

    I wonder if either one of these two men dated either of those two women. The crime just seemed personal.

  • the guest


    The Troy NY Police Dept deserves commendation for how respectful they handled this case. They regarded all the victims with highest respect and sensitivity. I was impressed with that and the respectful news coverage.

  • Elevated Soul

    More agents for the KKK coming in Black face...

    RIP to the 4 victims especially the children.

  • Zeta Phi Beta 1920

    The way they were bound and killed, I still say it was a Hit.

  • Ghost

    Glad they found them ! To kill anyone in such a horrific way especially the children is just INSANE! smh...

  • tintin

    MANN IS 24 more like 44. Damn monster

  • CopperCutie

    Anybody that actually thinks they can get away with murder in this day
    and age is just plain stupid.... unless you're a cop of course.

    The light-skinned dude looks like he could be the little girl's father.

  • A D N

    I thought he could be the girl's father too, but that means the mom would have been with him when he was 18 and she was 30. Possible though.

  • i troll it like i see it

    I'm glad they were located, but what's unfortunate is New York has not death penalty, which is what they deserve. How dare they touch that family, those children must have been so terrified.

  • Mr.LeBrickJames

    Unfortunately, people get away with murder all the time in the hood. The "no snitching" rule causes a lot of people to keep their mouth shut about murders and other crimes they know about.

  • Anunnaki

    Life, WTF, give they Azz the needles , if they did THIS fck feeding and housing these assholes, WHY BLACK MEN, u came from a black women, this is awful, that lil girl is so cute.??

  • Readytochokemothernatureout
  • Li

    Cameras are the key, the answer to solving these crimes. Every house and building in America should be equipped.
    Now, I wonder which one of the men was the ex-lover of one of the women and went for revenge?

  • Glad they were caught

    They need the death penalty. The older man is probably her ex and doesn’t like gay people. She’s a rough 36 and too old for that girl she was with. Extremely tragic story. RIP to the victims. Those poor children I won’t even think about what happened to them.

  • Glad they were caught

    They need the death penalty. The older man is probably her ex and doesn’t like gay people. She’s a rough 36 and too old for that girl she was with. Extremely tragic story. RIP to the victims. Those poor children I won’t even think about what happened to them.

  • justlooking

    Off topic Vince was creeping with Laura Govan and she may be preganant? What

  • nick c

    "Mann appeared emotional during his arraignment." Are you serious? were you emotional cutting them kids throat like that? Biggest monsters be the biggest crybabies when it's they turn.

  • MythCalledLove

    The younger gf pic made her look young at first I thought it was her son. That screamed personal stabbing someone is not easy to do unless your MS-13 or some other gang. To bound hands behind someone is not easy w/o a fight. To kill kids that takes a cold heart. You don't give them the death penalty. You drop them in gen pop and after they hv been worked over put their ass straight in the hole. Nothing but the memories of what they hv done. The cries & pleading of their victims is all they are left with.

  • Just this one time

    Exactly death is too easy for them. 100% agree with you.

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  • leapyearpisces

    First, I hope Satan doesn't even let them in hell-that would be too good for these demons. Secondly, WHY the younger one looks EXACTLY like Monie off of Little Woman ATL.

  • MistaO

    What does race have to do with this? Geesh!! Idiots are idiots, crazy is crazy, has zero to do with the fact that their momma black! Again, geesh! Smdh

  • Faux Gibbler

    Thank you god.

  • R in NYC

    Since this occured in the younger woman's apartment I will assume the beef was with her. The older woman probably had no clue what risk she was taking moving in with her lover.

  • Renee26

    RIP to the victims... may those men rot in prison if they are guilty of this heinous crime... sick sick sick

  • Renee26

    Shameful... Laura always had that “I’ll fug your man” look in her eyes. Vince knew dat bih was fertile, hell she got about 8 kids already

  • justlooking

    but Vince her shame has NO LIMITS.

    He wanted didn't loose out on looks, be honest Laura is very attractive fertile myrtle

  • NeverSurprised

    I agree. We forget that policemen are fathers too. Seeing a five year old girl with her hands bound and her throat slashed probably shook them to their core. I agree that they showed real concern and respect for the victims.

  • the guest

    RIP to the victims.

    I wish this mother and her three children would have been taken in by family. They could have shared one room. Kids can crash on the floor as long as the family is together. They would have been safe and together. I feel for the surviving family. But I have to say all these grieving relatives are coming forward and surely they will find grounds to sue for wrongful death if they can. But not one of them had a spare room or living room floor to take this family in. With all these relatives, this mother and her children had no business staying with a "lover" and the older child separated from the family. The black family and community has lost their sense of generosity and ingenuity because of oppression. Other cultures take in their own specifically Mexicans and especially Asians.

  • TMW

    Laura says it’s not her. But that situation is a whole mess. Vince went to jail on Christmas for domestic assault?

  • justlooking

    Yeah, I ready that too. Ninja lost weigjt and his mind.

  • justlooking

    yes, I read is was based on previous filed retraining order.

  • Carolina Bandit

    Fry thier asses.

  • Skin Deep Beauty

    If they did it put them in a prison cell handcuffed with the crime scene pictured painted on the walls of their cells.

  • You Could Never

    Fry them. Had the 15 yo son so scared to even go to the store. He is a good kid seems like. Said he was angry yesterday these monsters did this to his family at their first court appearance.

    I am too baby. I. Am. Too. God bless all but especially the one left behind. They took his family. I cant

  • jeniefrumdabloc™

    you do your shyt you will get caught quick.... this is a warning.... not that demons listen.... but yeah .... you will not get away .... stay honest folks ... if not you will be called out.... ?

  • Coffee1st

    The adversary is taking no prisoners. smh. I could only look at the pics of the kids for a few seconds. They didn't deserve this, none of them did.

  • Y’all Jealous Cuz I’m Prudy

    If and I do mean IF, these guys really did it, then I'm happy they were caught. But if the police just placed this m?rder, on whomever they could lie on first, then no justice has been served because the person who committed the crime, is still free.

  • Anunnaki

    Thats the way i wanted to say it, i hate that we kill each other like we are nothing, *specially * the lilttle ones,

  • Anunnaki

    I with u on that, heartbreaking

  • Anunnaki


  • hottlanta

    In the words of the late great comic Robin Harris, if they can't find nobody to pull the switch for the death penalty I'll do it. I won't even take a lunch break. Gotta go, gotta go.

  • hottlanta

    You betta say that.

  • hottlanta

    Wasn't Tamar holding up her ring hand like it was a badge of honor on her show as if she won the grand prize over the other chick? I bet she is somewhere ROTFLHAO. I guess Vince has something else that stayed opened all the time besides his mouth.

  • mona q

    But did you see that Gilbert Arenas is hinting that when they had to submit financial documents to the court, she submitted checking account information which shows wire transfers to her from multiple people and then he goes on to call her a h0e. I think Vince was paying - amongst others!

  • Waya Hedia

    Dirty bastards. Slit their throats.

  • Ridajean

    I'm no paid detective, but to me, those men look like the fathers of both those kids! Notice no fathers have stepped forward about the deaths of these kids! We've heard from Myers' sister, but where are the the fathers....IN CUSTODY!!! Wonder when the cops will release this info, cause until they say different, that's what I'll believe. There's your motive! Pride hurt, don't want to pay child support, etc..

  • Li

    Interesting detective work. I never thought about the kids having fathers.

  • Ridajean

    No, I think the older woman with the 2 children WAS the target! Her lover was collateral damage!

  • Li

    The Daily beast has some news & motive:https://www.thedailybeast.com/murder-suspect-in-troy-new-york-quadruple-slaying-was-friends-with-victim-family-member-says

    The two women were planning to marry. 14 years difference, that's a large gap in age.

  • dontgetblocked

    Yes...she was. But she married for money anyway. Talking about she likes her men thick. Yeah right.

  • hottlanta

    Any woman in her right mind will marry for money. I will not marry a man that can't and don't wanna take care of me. She was trying to beat him to the altar against the other chick and thought that she would be the special one. Now she finds out she is just another one.

  • the guest

    Maybe this is why with all these relatives and loved ones not one had a spare room or floor for the mother and two youngest children. Something is off here. Clearly they were loved judging by the large number of relatives at the court, but for some reason she had no where else to go but a lover's apartment and separated from her oldest child. Maybe the mother was mixed up with a bad crowd. Which would explain the older son saying he feared he was next.

  • Ridajean

    The 15y boy she left behind was her nephew. He was away at a basketball tournament and was living with his aunt while his mom and cousins lived in the basement of her partner. The boy thinks he is in danger and had he lived with his mother, he would have been. He wouldnt be privy to all the adult dealings of his mom. Sad.

  • Malcom Flex

    Our culture is lost, gone. 22 year old lesbian with a older lesbian. No fathers in the picture. 2 black male punks killing women and kids and what do BM do about it? They should have been taken out already not waiting for the law.

  • monique

    Life in prison is not justice. The US needs to copy other strict countries' laws and kill those who kill; Especially innocent children.

  • Look@m3

    Never thought about that but you think they would kill their own kids! Nevermind...its 2018 SMH

  • Shira Harding-James

    May justice be fair and swift

  • Shira Harding-James

    Here you go

  • Malcom Flex

    Blocked, Felicia.

  • Shira Harding-James

    Don’t care Malcolm
    But have a blessed 2018, hope it’s better than your 2017

  • Disgustd

    Apparently, the 'hood' must have adopted that code from the cops b/c they operate on the same 'code'.

  • T3

    Slit their throats

  • Noirluv45

    Exactly. That's his job. He'll gather as many as he can because he knows his time is winding down. No, those babies did not deserve that. I cannot imagine what they went through. Right. None of them deserved it.

  • Karryn

    I believe that one of the guys is the father of at least one of the kids, because the 11 year old boy looks like one of the suspects, the bald one. This is horrible.

  • Yoni7

    I disagree. Make them suffer. Die slow and long.

  • BeUtFullSoul

    sick And SAD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! THOSE CHILDREN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :'(

  • Quagsire!

    Both these dudes okay like Picasso paintings. Look at the eyes...

  • Shira Harding-James


  • Wayup!

    This is personal... But so is Justice.....
    And the only type of Justice that would suffice in this case...
    Is Street Justice..

  • Wayup!

    He Gon forever h8 the holidays...

  • Wayup!

    Every.. Single..Da#n..time..
    Wanna sway public opinion with their childhood traumas.. Their momma's that wasnt neva there. The daddies they never knew.. The teachers who failed them in kindergarten..The Govt
    ..the President (the black one)..

  • justlooking

    I'm sure she was. Marriage is not for the weak and light heart and it's also not whip cream and cherries everyday. No one should have to take an ass whoppin or verbally abused or cheated on. I hope it works out for their family. Black Love and marriage is always on the attack.

  • justlooking

    Smh...as in kill him? That's real sick

  • Guess Who

    But not as sick as killing 4 people...,.and two of them being kids, right?

    BTW, miss me with "two wrongs don't make a right".

  • justlooking

    I was in the wrong post. Thought this was the teen doc. Posting from phone.

    Btw...nevermind. lets just miss each other.

  • Guess Who


  • justlooking

    Chile, folks be acting like I lick dirty trashcan. Not that serious. ???

  • Wayup!

    Bye GRL..,