Yara Shahidi

ABC’s Black-ish spin-off, Grown-ish, debuted to low ratings on Freeform, ABC’s Family Network, on Wednesday. Freeform aired 2 episodes of Grown-ish, starring Yara Shahidi and Francia Raisa, as college students trying to make their way in the world.

The new series drew low ratings despite heavy marketing and promotion on major network talk shows and popular social media platforms.

Grown-ish follows 17-year-old Zoey Johnson (Shahidi) as she leaves home and heads off to college where she and other millennials party, chase boys, talk politics, and tackle social justice issues.

Grown-ish cast

The coming-of-age TV series premiered with an average 0.4 rating in the coveted 18-49 demographic and just 950,000 viewers. That’s even lower than the bottom-of-the-barrel reality TV series Keeping Up With the Kardashians averaged this season.

Grown-ish creator Kenya Barris may have to go back to the drawing board, or send Zoey back home to her parents.

 

Grown-ish, Episode 1

 

Grown-ish, Episode 2

Photos by BACKGRID

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  • tintin

    It’s on ABC spark they need to move it to a proper channel that people get for free. ABC spark is a premium channel that we have to pay extra for in Canada. Don’t know about America

    It’s a cute show on the different world tip and Yara is actually funny she’s not as boring as she normally seems

  • Breitbart_Savior

    What about that White House exposé that’s being released earlier than its original date? Trump attorneys sent a cease and deceist, but honesty, this man-boy president inspires fear in no one.

  • 1BlueStar

    Not surprised; the pilot was not entertaining.

  • http://www.beautyisland.weebly.com Indigo

    The demographic they are trying to reach wants to be badass. This girl is too Huxtuble-like. Cute fit up top though..

  • Diva_woman

    She was my least favorite character on blackish. Her character was boring and shallow. I watched the first 2 episodes and they can’t figure out if they want to be a comedy, dear white people, college hill, or a different world. Way too much going on and you can tell it lacked direction.

  • HIS4EVA

    no offense i adore Yara- but im grown not grown-ish. and everytime i went to the channel it was a commercial, so i just gave up. SVU was on…

  • Diva_woman

    It’s on freeform here which used to be abc family but I’m not sure which cable packages it comes with

  • Tennessean

    they don’t fit the criteria of what today’s entertainment is supposed to be for the viewers! i like her, the show, and blackish.

  • Li

    I think Freeform used to be ABC Family? I always thought Freeform was a stupid name for a network, and wonder if people even have FF on their plan?

  • Li

    Is it Freeform? ABC Spark? ABC Family? See, that’s the problem. How many people have Freeform on their cable plan?

  • Alicia.Ashe

    I liked it

  • R Smith

    I liked it! I think with the channel issue (which one), and the first week back to work, etc. may have caused it to have low ratings! Next week for sure :o)

  • jussaying

    If this show doesn’t do well, it’ll be one of a long line of black female lead shows that seem to fail on this network. There was another one starring a black Trini actress where Sharon Leal played her mother that was pretty good, which was canceled after one season.. In addition, Twisted starring Kylie Bunbury as the lead actress also was canceled after the writers threw she and the other lead POC male under the bus. This channel caters to white teenage girls who are only interested in white female protagonists/victims. Anyway, the only thing people watch on Freeform anymore is ‘The Fosters.’

  • Yoni7

    I just asked downstairs had anybody watched this. I wanted to but didn’t know when and what time it came on, until after the fact. LOL

  • Lanegra??

    I got that vibe too. Different world started off a little rocky so i am hoping it picks up just because i love the cast. I still think it should be on ABC though not Freeform.

  • Yoni7

    My daughter was watching SVU as well. That show is HER SH!T! She WILL/DOES watch SVU, Criminal Minds and NCIS in her sleep!

  • the guest

    Yara Shahidi personifies hope!

    The fact is that white teenage girls are jealous of competitively beautiful and socially sophisticated black girls. They are literally allergic to positive representation and positive images of black teenage girls.

    I do think that white girls have a racist competitiveness with black girls and will not support the success of beautiful, articulate, and upstanding black girls because they feel threatened.

    Media and music trends have proven that white girls and youth enjoy degrading and mocking images of black girls and youth that make white girls and youth feel culturally superior.

  • the guest

    Freeform is a horrible name for a TV Channel.

  • the guest

    LOVE Blackish.

  • Mama Dee’s Wig Maker

    I hope it does great in the long run

  • Diva_woman

    My sister was saying this. Hope they find their stride

  • Phillybruh

    We allowed our son to watch this he’s 12. He and we enjoyed it, it has sparked conversation in the house about drugs and someone liking you too much and leaving a friend in bad situations. The things blackish can’t tackle can be tackled here, from all angles they covered their bases the casts. I think it will be cool to see if the older son joins her at this college next year.

  • Gorgeousvillan

    It’s stale!! Networks don’t care about substance anymore everything is pretty much about the same’ISH…for black ish. It grown ish….wth is going on with the world today?? Has everything really become that predictable and boring…have we literally ran out of ideas and creativity?? That’s why I appreacite growing up in Times where the was Martin ….living single family matters Steven Harvey and Jaime fox show. The waynans moesha the rock lol different world..man o man I miss the 90s. ?

  • Wreckognize Game

    I wanted to support this show but was confused on where or how to view it. I thought it was online or thru HULU. I found out later that I have Freeform channel on Dtv after the show aired.

  • tintin

    what is freeform?

  • Phillybruh

    Steven Harvey….lol Seriously though Blackish is a very well done show and is miles above the shows you mentioned in terms of creativity.

  • Phillybruh

    Just press the mic on your remotes and say GROWNISH it will find it for you.

  • gail fowler

    I watched both episodes and enjoyed the script writing it will get better, after they show each characters role. In addition, they touched on subject matters that happen in College the drinking, the pill popping to get that paper written, and about beginning new relationships.

  • Wreckognize Game

    Directv remote too?

  • http://www.pureromance.com LA

    Speak that truth!!! Black-ish is a really good show that has great content and is funny as heck.. I enjoyed the spin off, it’s going to do well.. Puts me in the mind of a Different World..

  • http://www.pureromance.com LA

    Wow I didnt know this.. Thanks I watched Recovery Road and was surprised it was canceled..good show..

  • http://www.pureromance.com LA

    Hmm, y’all are bringing some things to life here.

  • http://www.pureromance.com LA

    Try it again or find it on demand.. Im grown and I loved it… Whew watcing as a parent gave me some insight on this new generation of young adults.. The whole fam can sit watch and enjoy this show..

  • Phillybruh

    If you have newer boxes yes.

  • gail fowler

    Why on Rhymes with Snitch blog say Grown-ish pulled in decent ratings and this blog already has the show on cancel mode.

  • Wreckognize Game

    Cool, thanks. I will try it. (When nobody is there to laugh at me) Just in case mine isn’t setup that way.

  • Phillybruh

    Well this blog isn’t exactly pro black these days.

  • http://www.pureromance.com LA

    I enjoyed the show

  • jussaying

    Yes, I thought it was a good show and well written too. I’ve found that the trend there seems to be when the black chick is made the ‘coveted’ girl and not just the supportive best friend, there seems to be backlash from the majority of white teenage girls. If you watch the first half of Twisted, and then the second half [and look at the corresponding forums that largely complain about how the white chick was ‘treated’ i.e. she didn’t get to be with the lead guy] you’ll see that they were always imagining some slight against the white chick nevermind that the character was a horrible person. It seems to be the format for all ‘teenage’ shows, actually. CW’s Riverdale is no better relegating Josie, a major character in the Archie comics, to play second fiddle to all of her white counterparts. Never mind that the other POCs – the black jock and an Asian jock – barely get any screen time.

  • Yardgirl

    I watched and loved it. They touched on the current college situation and how a naive freshman navigates trying to fit in and also balance their workload. I wish they had it on ABC though, just like CBS did for the “Big Bang Theory” spinoff “Young Sheldon” While Yara’s character on “blackish” was definitely not my favorite (too shallow!) I think they can do a lot with her on the spinoff, now that she is no longer HBIC like in high school.

  • Browneyes

    I wonder why ABC didn’t pick it up. It would’ve done great behind Blackish

  • Scorpiess

    It sounds like a sanitary towel.

  • You Could Never

    This is a beautfiul ass young lady. Every time I see her. Smart too. Proud of her.

  • Mark mcharm

    it is on abc but abc family now freeform

  • Mark mcharm

    was it ever ? lol

  • Diane

    I actually think that is why it has low ratings, I found the channel it is on by chance. I just assumed it would have been on ABC. I loved the show

  • Marlika

    I was looking for it on the ABC line up, I didn’t see it so I said forget it.

    I did catch my girl Angela’s show!?

  • Ni Ni

    That would’ve been the smart thing to do, air it right behind Blackish. I wonder who was the idiot that screwed that up. I figured they moved it on Freeform to sex the show up, etc. I dont watch Freeform, every show seems to have way too many issues.

  • Darkandlovely617?

    ?
    I watch my mother do this & and for some reason it cracks me up ?????

  • Owww76

    They didn’t think it would have an audience on ABC so they decided to put it on Freeform which is more like a teen network sort of but Freeform is formally ABC Family so it is still under their umbrella.

  • Owww76

    I was really surprised she got a spin off, she was my least favorite character out of the kids on Black-ish, Junior and Diane are my faves on there. It was a decent show that will eventually get its footing as the season progresses

  • MistaO

    Or put it on a network people can find!?!

  • MistaO

    Right?! Talk about an a duh moment!
    Clear a lot of times they set “Black” shows up to fail, or struggle to succeed at best…

  • ???TheRider???

    I thought I was the only one who saw that!

  • ???TheRider???

    I totally agree. The show needed the lead and audience from Blackish. Sorta off topic – Young Sheldon is freaking hilarious!

  • Yardgirl

    I love Sheldon!! OMG that little boy plays the part so well, he need an award!! Did you see last night’s? Those poor teachers *tears*

  • Yardgirl

    Me neither! I call it the channel for young YT girls with angst channel.

  • Ni Ni

    and confused gays, it’s just tew much.

  • Tennessean

    Love it!!!

  • cherrypie

    I watched Angela’s show yesterday. I liked it!!!!

  • ???TheRider???

    I didn’t think I’d like it, but I love it. The episode about the brisket recipe IMO has been the best episode so far. I love Meemaw and Missy, they’re two peas in a pod. I can’t wait to see who would play Georgie on TBBT for the wedding! I think Danny McBride (Ricky Powers) would be great, but he’s too old.

  • Smith Jane

    I never really got into Blackish. I love Anthony Anderson and the actors that play his parents, but the wife and the kids… I never cared for… it was too bland for my taste

  • Diva_woman

    Yes junior and diane crack me up. Heck even the other little boy is funny. She’s a cute girl but her character was dull and forgetable

  • Smith Jane

    Maybe. Or we need better writers for our shows. Look at the ratings for Power, Empire, Scandal, HTGAWM etc., those shows pull in ratings because they have a combination of great actors and great writers. Ever since the 90s, black comedies have struggled to win the ratings war. I think, after the 2000s, “we” became too white-washed and mainstream, losing the appeal and allure that we had in previous decades. Shows like The Carmichael’s, Blackish, and that Remorse show on showtime, just aren’t funny.. it’s like they take a script originally meant for bland yt actors and throw a few black slang words into it. Then they wonder why nobody supports them. Like we’re just supposed to be satisfied with mediocre unfunny comedy shitcoms cause it’s a black racially ambiguous cast? I don’t think so..

  • ChocolateChick84

    I haven’t seen the show, but I have seen many articles and comments on various blogs and forums where people had issues with the cast, stating that it was open colorism in the casting. There is not one person in the cast that is brown/dark skin or even darker than a paper bag. And much like most black shows, it has a light skin lead actress. I like Yara and I wish her the best but I can see how that is offensive and why someone would not want to support it because of that and how that can contribute, if any, to lower viewership. A Different World, which was one of favorite TV shows, represented everyone. Very inclusive of all aspects of blackness, which I think is why it did so well and had a cult like following. Off topic, but I was able to catch Angela Bassett’s new show 911 on FOX and I love it!

  • http://sandrarose.com SandraRose

    Because Snitch is being nice. We both posted the same source link that shows 0.4 rating and 950K viewers. Even the source suggested the show might not get renewed due to the low ratings.

  • Erin

    originally it was to be on ABC right after Black-ish but they didn’t think it would be big enough or do good enough. At least on Freeform they can give it a chance. Id it did that low on ABC it would be cancelled. I’m a media buyer and a 0.4 on Cable for a premiere is not horrible. SR being extra messy as usual.

  • KcoolMuziq

    It’s because ABC rejected the “Grown-ish” spin-off which is why it’s on The Free-Form network. It would have been a great tie in paired with the lead “Blackish”. Which would have given it an instant high ratings. Like ‘Different World’ was paired with ‘The Cosby Show’ back in the day.

    But ABC had other plans instead. They paired ‘Black-ish’ with the black FLOP sitcom ‘Mayor’. Which they knew wasn’t going to get any high ratings. Which has now been cancelled after only nine episodes of the show’s original 13-episode run.

    It’s obvious ABC only let’s ONE black sitcom in at a time. Which is why they didn’t give the Mike Epps/Nia Long sitcom ‘Uncle Buck’ a chance. Even tho it had gotten decent ratings. Smh

    I still personally liked ‘Grown-ish’ and hope that The Free-Form network gives it a chance. Major networks NEVER give black sitcoms a chance to grow legs

  • Acts238

    Even from the previews, the show is ill-casted and ill-written. It needs to be unapologetically black/afro. Point. Blank. Period. Its corny.

  • the guest

    But Yara Shahidi is not light skinned. She’s very vocal with her black pride.

  • JusSTOP

    I liked this show… A Different World 2.0?

  • KcoolMuziq

    Yara’s character is not attending a historically black college. Like Lisa Bonet’s character Denise did on Different World. So they’re not going to focus on a black/afro cast.

  • Listen2Me

    ???

  • Yardgirl

    The brisket episode had me in tears!! They cast the perfect person to play Meemaw, she keeps me laughing!!

  • Pnthr

    I knew this wouldn’t do well. Yara isn’t even the most interesting kid on Blackish, she can’t carry her own show yet. She needs to stay on Blackish like the daughter on Modern Family. Stop trying to fix what isn’t broken.

  • Smith Jane

    She’s not too vocal or else she’d be attending a HBC … I’m still offended at how so many young black celebrities (first black family included) are opting OUT of attending HBC’s. They are grossly underfunded and low attendance/graduation rates.

  • Smith Jane

    The Carmichael’s was not funny. The black guy, that played the son – & I believe the shows creator – was the LEAST funny dude in the cast. The second least would be the light skinned chick that played his wife. The only funny cast members, and even “funny” would be a stretch, were the parents.

  • Phillybruh

    Really, I did enjoy the Carmichael show, however any show that can make post pardum depression entertaining is written well. Also survivors remourse was written well aswell its when the characters became more than a dumb basketball player and a his loud mouth lesbian sister did people complain.

  • Phillybruh

    But why does she have too attend one?

  • KcoolMuziq

    It was an ensemble cast show. The show wasn’t given a chance and the cast never had a chance to gel.. Also it was Jerrod Carmichael’s first time as a sitcom actor. Which can be very difficult for a first timer. But he wasn’t given a chance to grow.

    I do agree that Amber Stevens West that played Maxine as his wife was like watching paint dry.

  • Lady M

    Yara’s character (as others have said) wasn’t that funny. So she needs a better support cast with real comedic actors. A show based around teenagers should be fun. I would prefer varying racial/ethnic groups. The cast photo seemed to be white-heavy.

  • Blak

    There has never been anything about her character that has interested me or the rest of society…who knows who she had to sleep with to get her own TV series. This will be cancelled by the end of the month

  • Lady M

    What does her being vocal about black pride have to do with the show not having dark skinned cast members? Yara is NOT dark-skinned. She is a light skinned actress…mixed race to be exact. The only dark skinned child in the original “Black-ish” household is Dianne to be honest. Even grandpa and grandma are lighter in complexion.

  • Applebootay

    or send Zoey back home to her parents

    Sandra You so mean and SHADY AF…that girl won’t be going back home to her mother because she got accepted into HARVARD darling…IN FACT! Shahidi, was accepted at every college to which she applied.

    Shade on THAT BLACK GIRL MAGIC! This girl don’t need a show to be great…

  • Soda

    I was surprised when The Carmichaels was renewed after the first season. As much as I like Loretta Devine, I thought the show was terrible.

  • Soda

    I mainly listened to Grown-ish as I was doing something else but I think I heard the word ‘shit’ a couple of times and a show with her character experimenting with drugs should not follow Black-ish.

  • KcoolMuziq

    Well now U can go watch Marlin shuckin and jivin for 20 min. His show was picked up for a second season. ?

  • Soda

    I don’t even know who that is.

  • Christian Aleks

    Freeform is just the younger version of ABC. It used to be called abc family. They thought it would do better with the same kids that watched pretty little liars, the fosters.

  • Soda

    Sandra was speaking of the tv character, not the actress.

  • SemajBeyPhilly

    Boom!

  • DJ

    Excellent articulation of FACTS!!! I could not have said it better.

  • C Mack

    I mean…not everyone strives to go to an HBCU.

  • alex

    I loved 90s shows. You are making me nostalgic. I haven’t watched TV shows (non-cable) religiously since maybe about 2002. Even now when I watch a show, it is HBO, Netflix or some other streaming. I don’t even know what programs are on TV now, but judging by others comments and ratings, most seem lame af. I’ve heard that Empire and Scandal are good, but I’ve never seen them.

  • alex

    I didn’t go to one either. Mostly due to geography, $$$ and major. I agree that there are many factors at play for people to decide what school to attend.

    ETA: I was the only one in my extended family who didn’t go to one and they thought I was odd.

  • Yardgirl

    Jerrod Carmichael decided that he did not want to stay with the show and in essence HE canceled it. I loved that show and was very mad when I heard it got canceled, until I found out why.

  • Yardgirl

    That show is AWFUL!! The story lines are painfully unfunny and so is the entire cast including Marlon.

  • KcoolMuziq

    That’s the story they allowed him to say. But the real reason he jumped the gun. Because he knew NBC wasn’t going to renew the show anyway.
    The renewal negotiation between NBC had been difficult, plus Jerod had already went up against the network after NBC postponed at the last minute an episode that dealt with a mass shooting as it fell on a day of two real-life mass shootings in the US. He was very vocal about there decision and publically called it criminal. The demise of the show was evitable.

  • Lady_Elle

    That is how A Different World did waaaaay back when!

  • Lady_Elle

    She needs the coins… for her piggy bank. :-)

  • Ant Hill

    you seem really in your feelings over this, that “BLACK GIRL MAGIC” did not help those ratings though.

  • blazewon22

    The episodes were TRASH. Tried to be to edgy with the sprung druggy theme. Back to the drawing board!

  • cottonscandyheary

    lol who told her she was Denise Huxtable and Anthony Anderson already think his show is on the Cosby Show level not, She needed to take her ass to college.

  • cottonscandyheary

    ikr these people are so fucking stupid. She clearly was saying for the character to go back home to blackish.

  • blazewon22

    MLK and others fought for us to not need HBCU’s. Except for 3-4 schools you get bottom of the barrel students who wind up not giving back.

    A lack of a strong alumni base makes the schools suffer.

  • cottonscandyheary

    He decided to cancel it because the network did not air one eposide because they claimed it was to controversial because I think they just had a shooting or something at that time. Everyone on that show has gone on to something better but his dumb ass.

  • cottonscandyheary

    It didnt have good ratings and it is being decussed on other blogs as being stupid.

  • blazewon22

    The drugs and language don’t make it a prime time comedy and pushes it off to cable. Waaay different expectation than the teaser episode they did on Black-ish last year.

    Being that kids mostly watch media on Netflix or YouTube the show needed a little more setup than putter her on drugs in the first episode.

  • Lady_Elle

    Her character on the show reminds me of my daughter and her girl friends. It is like a generational thing.
    I am absolutely puzzled by my daughter and others in her age group. smh

  • KcoolMuziq

    Jerrod Carmichael Inks Overall Deal With 20th Century Fox TV http://deadline.com/2017/09/jerrod-carmichael-overall-deal-20th-century-fox-tv-1202179473/

  • NicoleZee

    Yara’s character on Black-ish is annoying and snobbish so I don’t think people were expecting much from her new show. Plus, her voice is VERY annoying! Black-ish is not as good as it used to be. Maybe some people of color cannot relate to these shows, especially if the characters are boring, corny, and dumb with elitist attitudes. Good luck to Yara at Harvard though.

  • NicoleZee

    She might be considered light skinned to some. I’m maybe a shade lighter than her and I didn’t even think I was light skinned until the mom of one of my exes pointed it out. She said that sometimes people may automatically not like me because of my “light” complexion even though I’m more brown skinned and not pale or high yellow as some say. Weird.

  • NicoleZee

    Her skin color has nothing to do with anything. Her character on Black-ish is an entitled snob, so maybe some people do not like that, cannot relate, and chose not to watch her new show. Black-ish is corny, but it was kind of okay the first season. Most comedy TV shows are not that funny anyway. The dramas are always better like Law & Order: SVU or the Chicago franchise (Fire, P.D., and Med). I’m a huge Dick Wolf fan. After all, he gave us the now classic Law & Order back in the 1990s :)!

  • NicoleZee

    True. HBCU’s are great, but I prefer diversity. I think it’s more practical to be around other cultures and to learn to be tolerant and accepting of others who may not be like you culturally.

  • NicoleZee

    Very true. Plus, we all learn differently. I always felt awkward in college, high school too. I’m introverted and temperamental, so that’s probably why. However, once I switched to online learning my grades improved significantly and I was much more comfortable in the online classroom. I finished college online after wasting years in a regular college classroom. I obviously made the right choice based on how I learn and what suits me best!

  • NicoleZee

    I LOVED and was ADDICTED to Pretty Little Liars! I miss them. I’m 34. Most of the teen characters on the show were well into their 20s or 30s in real life. The only one who was an actual teenager when they started the show was Sasha Pieterse who played Alison.

  • Tammie Reed

    I love Yara and her style is fabulous but the producers needed to change the name or something, I kinda figured that would happen. Dang!

  • disqus_FW7pCIigCY

    wow so since those shows aren’t centered around the GHETTO or behaving GHETTO FAB you have no interest in the show……LAWD OUR PEOPLE WILL REMAIN STUCK FOR LIFE SMHSMHSMH

  • Phillybruh

    It’s cable tv the ratings were actually pretty decent.

  • disqus_FW7pCIigCY

    black folk don’t fall for this BS of course WHITES in charge of TV programming want a show about a BEAUTIFUL YOUNG BLACK FEMALE COLLEGE STUDENT to fail…the show is based on OUR youth getting a higher education, being intellects, asking WHY THINGS ARE THEY WAY THEY ARE… the only shows they want on TV are shows like EMPIRE or STAR (WHICH IS FINE) but we don’t need MORE As long as OUR CHILDREN ARE ACTING IGNORANT they will put your show on a major network….why put her show on a cable channel called FREEFORM and PUT BLACKISH IS ON A MAJOR NETWORK….

  • Phillybruh

    Because my 60 yr old mother is not staying to watch Grownish after Blackish. But my niece who is 13 and my son who is 12 who only like the kids on blackish will watch it on Freeform a channel that is all mixed up with the Disney bundle that caters to those tweens to 16 yr olds.

  • Smith Jane

    Black people are so funny. You cry and beg for inclusion and then act shocked when you have nowhere to turn when you don’t have universities willing to accept you (affirmative action programs being dismantled as we speak), when yt award shows won’t recognize your artistry, and when yt executives won’t green light your movie/films. Diversity and all that other nonsense is more important than historic black spaces until yt people remind your black ass of who you are and where you belong. It’s also why we no longer have the flourishing black businesses and properties that we owned 40+ years ago. Black people throwing away all they own just to be included smdh

  • Phillybruh

    It has a full season order.

  • Smith Jane

    Black people don’t have a choice but be tolerant of other cultures and races. Do you honestly believe paying $50k a semester is going to teach a black person more about diversity and other cultures than simply living in a yt Amerikkka? This isn’t about becoming tolerant, this is about how black people have little pride about their own culture and history, that they’re willing to throw away the few historic black spaces that we do have just to be accepted by yt ppl

  • Phillybruh

    Well go on to the HBCU then. Whose stopping you from going or sending yours.

  • Smith Jane

    Yeah and towards the end MLK knew he was integrating his ppl into a burning building. We were divided and conquered

  • Smith Jane

    A black persons who takes pride in their culture and history does…

  • NicoleZee

    Now you know that is not what I meant. I didn’t grow up in the “ghetto” and don’t even like that word. Did you know that when the word “ghetto” first originated, it had nothing to do with black people???

    Like I said, Yara’s character is a snob. Plenty of people of various races had good upbringings and do not think they are better than others. I just hope to God that Yara does not act that way in real life, but sadly, her real voice is the same, which is irritating. No diss to her though, I hope she is a genuinely nice person and wish her well. I’m just not a fan of her TV characters or shows. We are all entitled to like and dislike whatever we please. I just prefer TV dramas with well written characters. As I mentioned below, Dick Wolf has created some of the best shows ever with Law & Order, SVU, and the Chicago franchise shows on NBC!

  • jussaying

    …Why would she need to sleep with anyone? Her family is already well connected. Nas is her cousin, her father regularly works with people in the entertainment business (including the late and great Prince) and both her parents are well educated. Google is free.

  • Smith Jane

    Who says I didn’t?

  • jussaying

    I agree that her character is a bit boring… but the main cast has only one white character [who is Jewish]. The rest are black with one brown skin Indian….

  • Phillybruh

    Her character is unapologeticaly privilaleged I mean it seems based on her parents on the show they raised them that way. I wouldn’t call her a snob.

  • NicoleZee

    I don’t get it or why the writers of the show would make her so snobbish and painfully irritating. Plenty of people of color have been successful and wealthier and they do not have an elitist attitude. What’s the point of having a nasty attitude and thinking your shit doesn’t stink??? If it’s a generational thing as you say, then I feel sorry for this generation of young people. My son is 2 and I am teaching him to be respectful, kind, and humble no matter what obstacles or successes he has in life as he gets older.

  • PYT93

    Why put it on at least if they just wanted it to fail? Why waste all that money on cast crew production marketing and advertising. Nobody forced the networks to produce or air this show. Please try again.

  • Phillybruh

    Your typing like that every black person should. When that may not be their dream school. The character chose this school over her an HBCU on the show because she didn’t want to miss the birth of her baby brother.

  • jussaying

    Empire and Scandal WERE good.. Empire, don’t watch past season 1. Scandal seasons 1-3 and then it’s done. I like How to Get Away With Murder, though.

  • jussaying

    Thank you; I hate Black-ish. I love the actors, but the comedy feels very unnatural and forced. It reminds me of grown up versions of the Nickelodeon/Disney teen sitcoms like Drake & Josh, True Jackson, etc. The comedy was always overt and the scenarios were overly dramatic without any sense of reality. I miss 90’s sitcoms.. Fresh Prince still makes me laugh to this day.

  • NicoleZee

    I understand that Philly, but my point is that being privileged and blessed does not mean you have to have a nasty attitude thinking you are above others. Being kind and humble STILL matters, even though some people think it doesn’t.

  • Smith Jane

    It is a sad day when a black person cant understand what it means to have pride in ones heritage and culture. Sad day. Sigh.

  • Phillybruh

    Who doesn’t have pride in those things. I find it hard to believe that you actually do and you don’t like Blackish. Its nothing but black pride. Every decision they make is rooted in blackness.

  • Phillybruh

    We must have been looking at different shows.

  • NicoleZee

    ABC needs a makeover! Most of the shows on that network suck except for General Hospital. People are still pissed that they canceled All My Children and One Life to Live years ago :(! And even though the Freeform network caters to a younger generation, I don’t think they ever had any shows worth watching besides Pretty Little Liars which ended last year.

  • taurus_32

    A Different World started off the same way, then Lisa Bonet left the show and it was awesome. It’s not really funny like A Different World but it is still good in my opinion. ?????

  • NicoleZee

    I guess that’s just my take on it love. Black-ish sucks now, I stopped watching, so I definitely was not about to watch any spinoff. However, as for Black-ish, I liked Anthony Anderson better when he played a detective on Law & Order :). Remember that???

  • NicoleZee

    Oh lawd! I truly hope she did not have to sleep with some nasty, overweight, gross dude to get her own show. Harvey Weinstein 2.0. Sad.

  • Phillybruh

    I do I prefer the earlier eps the new ones are blah. But he was always a comedic actor.

  • C Mack

    Not necessarily. I didn’t go to one, but I am black and proud. I went to an all black high school so I sought diversity for my college experience. I felt it was more reflective of the real world.

    I have friends who went and I hear they loved their experiences. I did not, but I think it’s far-fetched to say someone isn’t proud of their culture and history because they did not attend an HBCU. Too many variables at play.

  • bella28498 .

    we need to leave other races out of our chit, should’ve made it all black.

  • Yardgirl

    Yes he is dumb for that. SMH

  • NicoleZee

    Me too! I love the earlier episodes with Chris Noth and Jerry Orbach (RIP) and then the ones with Benjamin Bratt. And I think the best prosecutor they ever had was Angie Harmon. I loved her no nonsense attitude :)!

  • lilli lilian

    I too thought the Zoey character was annoying in a dismissive, snobbish, mean girl kind of way. She’s super adorable but I didn’t care for her character, I especially didn’t like the way she often brushed off her parents; didn’t like how they would try to bond with her and she wouldn’t even look up from her phone or she would just make a rude comment basically telling them to go away. I actually thought her character was intended to be a mean teen snob, especially since they had a few episode calling her out for not showing her parents respect and appreciation. That teenage girl being mad at her parents for no reason was funny on Rosanne and The Bernie Mac show because at least those kids knew the struggle was real and had reasons for minor resentment, but watching privileged kids with no worries have attitudes is hard to connect to. The episode with Zendaya highlighted Yara’s character being ungrateful and rude and there’s just so many other episode of her being…”valley girl dismissive,” I guess I would call it. I feel like the writers knew she was a bit of a jerk and that’s why they had that one episode were suddenly Zoey could be counted on to be mature and reliable and take care of her siblings if their parents passed away. IDK care that it’s a scripted tv show, I can’t watch a kid being dismissive and having attitude for no good reason, especially not when their parents are cool as hell and passive. So following Zoey to college is a no for me, but I would follow the other little sister

  • NicoleZee

    Thank you! I thought it was just me that thought Yara’s character of Zoey was a snob and mean spirited. You know something, whenever there is a TV show with a black parent, they never write it correctly as far as punishing and disciplining the child. Most black mamas that I have known would smack their child for being disrespectful or having a nasty attitude. My mama and grandmama didn’t play, we got our behinds whipped and they didn’t care what anyone thought about it or who was looking!

    But back when Roseanne had her TV show, she’s white, but she whipped DJ on TV if anyone remembers the episode where he stole the car and the police came by and then Roseanne spanked him on his butt with her hand and eventually apologized to him by the end of the episode. Now if white Roseanne is able to do that, why can’t more TV shows portray parenting the way it is in many households??? Even white people spank their kids! I’m surprised Black-ish is still on, I don’t see it lasting for too many more seasons. And this new show Grown-ish, well, it might last longer since it’s not on a major network, but I didn’t bother watching. I saw the trailer and was not impressed.

    Regardless of someone’s race, success, income or setting, if a child gets out of line, they need their behinds spanked. I’m a mum now, my son would have one time to disrespect me or have a stank attitude and he might need a face transplant when I get done with him! I’m not putting up with any shit. Not Happening!

    Clip from Roseanne episode: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DSEHQ7O2riI

  • Lady_Elle

    I remember my teen daughter as a toddler/pre-schooler. I taught her the same.

    I still take time to discuss behaviors with her and her inner circle.

    I pray that as they continue to grow that these discussions find a way into their thought processes and hopefully help mold them into young adults that act like they have home training.

    BTW my sons are older and they don’t have these behaviors. :-)

  • NicoleZee

    That’s what we all pray for as parents. I just want my son to do some good in this world and to never harm people unless he has to defend himself from some sort of attack. Young people today seem so lost. It’s sad. A lot people are so narcissistic and self-involved, not to mention disrespectful. I have never in my life seen so many disrespectful, hateful, and evil people! It’s just sad. I watched my grandmother stressed out and depressed when my uncle was strung out on drugs and in prison. I’ll be damned if my son ends up on the streets or in some prison. I just pray he goes down a better path that does not lead to drugs or prison or being a horrible person. Jesus please be a fence around our children and their peers!

  • Lady_Elle

    I so agree with you!!!
    The spirits of narcissism, selfishness, disrespect… are rampant!

    Will continue to do what I can and pray for change.

    Thank you… Amen, Amen, Amen!!!

  • alex

    Oh, haha. They aren’t broadcasted anymore, shows you how much I know! Thanks for the tips — it is winter time which means more time spent in the house, so I’ll be downloading and streaming!

  • alex

    Good for you! I am glad that you found something that worked best for you. I’ve never done online learning, but I will consider it. I don’t want to go back to school at all (!) because I spent so much of my life there, but I can’t seem to land a stable job. So I may *have* to get another certificate or degree and learning online would make it easier and plus, you can do it from anywhere.

  • ALLMINE?

    kids don’t really watch tv

  • ALLMINE?

    “MAGIC”?

  • ALLMINE?

    i agree

  • ALLMINE?

    where should they go?

  • NicoleZee

    Online learning is great, plus it gives you more flexibility with your schedule to do other things. But be careful, a lot of online schools try to take advantage of the financial aid process. So if you’re using federal aid, make sure you know where the money is going and that you get your refund. I think employers today seem more interested in knowing you have been working as opposed to education, depending on the specific job field, even though people should still get an education. I truly believe that employers discriminate based on age and current employment status, as well as socioeconomic status. Sad, but very true.

  • alex

    Age discrimination is definitely still a thing. And I found that whe I was unemployed it was harder to get a job (employment status), which makes zero sense. I think the US Labor bureau keeps stats on that and can confirm. Among so many other things is also discrimination against pregnant women or 30s women who might have kids. I am leery of all of this as I search…

    Thanks for the tips. Though I don’t live in the USA anymore, so not sure that I will focus on online programs in the USA. Financial aid in the USA is a hot mess. The American system already got enough money from me.

  • anjanette b

    If it was HBU college I think the rating would be better. The show is kind of corny. They need some black people on there with some flavor.

  • Ang

    Freeform should be apart of most basic cable packages, even the lowest package. It’s just that most adults have probably never watched the channel until now. They wanted Grown-ish to take over then Pretty Little Liars audience. PLL was about teenagers but appealed to older people also. It makes sense that it’s on Freeform. It wouldn’t do as well on ABC, just like PLL was number 1 on Freeform but wouldn’t have lasted one season on ABC primetime.

  • Electricbird83

    Dang! On one hand I’m glad black-ish does so well they thought of a spinoff but when I saw it would be Zoey, never thought her character was enough to hold a show single handedly. They would of been better spinning of dre’s Office folk and Charlie or drea and bows parents, something, but not Zoey ?????

  • unknown user

    I dont watch tv at all anymore literally have not turned it on in weeks

  • Babyc21us

    Does free form usually get high ratings on their show? I watched it. It’s grown-ish alright. I’ll definitely keep watching.

  • Indies beauty

    Sorry, nobody cares about cookie cutter tv shows. That’s not reality. She doesn’t represent me. Next

  • Indies beauty

    She did a great job co hosting The View though. She’s only 17 and very political.

  • Indies beauty

    I agree with both of you guys. Y’all hit on the nail. Her attitude comes off a little pretentious in the series.

  • KcoolMuziq

    ‘Grown-ish’ Posts Freeform’s Biggest Comedy Series Launch Since 2012 http://deadline.com/2018/01/grown-ish-ratings-freeforms-biggest-series-launch-since-shadowhunters-1202238786/

  • http://sandrarose.com SandraRose

    The live demo numbers were less than 1 million viewers. That source link added both episodes together plus reruns to get the fake inflated ratings.

  • Kendall

    Honestly, I loved the concept when I heard about it and Yara did better than I thought she’d do but it’s the cast that really pulls the show down. None of those other characters are remotely interesting, they’re all just stereotypical stock “millennial” characters that felt like the writers literally took a college yearbook and based characters off the pictures lol. Zoe was the only character that felt like an actual person. It may get better if they recast a lot of the cast, get a strong, intelligent professor who can actually be a father or mother figure to those kids and keep them in line and make the show actually funny without just throwing in “hip” references and slang of 201718, get some actually comedy in there. A Different World even in the first season that was weak at best had more going for it so people can miss me with comparing this show to that classic. Hopefully Debbie Allen is available because they need some retooling

  • Applebootay

    Yes, and I for one, really didn’t think the show would go well for so many reasons..I digress on….I just don’t like the way Auntie shaded her.

  • KcoolMuziq

    Freeform Renews ‘Black-ish’ Spinoff ‘Grown-ish’ for Season 2

    https://www.thewrap.com/freeform-renews-black-ish-spinoff-grown-ish-season-2/