TI Harris Raven Symone

Rapper T.I. Harris lashed out at actress Raven-Symoné for reposting an Instagram post that was critical of rappers who glorify drugs, killing, and misogyny in their music and music videos.

The drama started when Raven took to Instagram.com on Saturday and reposted a group photo of rappers including JAY-Z, T.I., Sean Combs, Yo Gotti and more at JAY-Z's Roc Nation party in New York City.

The image was originally posted by rapper Speech (of the group Arrested Development), with the text:

"A group of so called 'successful' black men(minus Khalid racially) who became rich and famous from perpetuating the worst black stereotypes to the ears and eyes of the entire planet like drug dealing, pimping, murdering other Black men and disrespecting Black women."

Raven only shared the post -- she didn't write the text. But that didn't matter to people who don't read.

T.I. clapped back -- at Raven rather than the original source -- by reposting a quote from from author Oscar Wilde that says “Every saint has a past and every sinner has a future.”

He then directed his anger toward Raven, stating: "Our sins ain’t no greater than yours ma’am. The air must be thin as hell up there on that high horse you sittin on. Somebody please let me know...WTF up wit shawty?"

T.I. is typical of rappers who attack more vulnerable targets (women and children) rather than to check the man (Speech) who originally posted the critical message.

This is reminiscent of Dr. Dre beating up on female journalist Dee Barnes for something rapper Ice Cube said.

Do better, T.I.

 

 

  • Phillybruh

    Neither Raven or Speech lied.

  • thrift.store.jungle

    raven is still cancelled like chrisette michelle and tina campbell BUT...

    clifford is mighty sensitive for a man who is also very vocal with his many opinions.

    goodbye to them both.

  • Trey

    it is was it is...every person in that photo has made money perpetuating stereotypes of the black community....degrading women...and the destruction of blacks....

  • Owww76

    TI STFU! Dude always poppin off on some ish! Ole leprechaun Malcolm X wanna be! A hit dog will holler everytime!

  • iWasteTime

    As he should have.
    She nor Speech nor Malcolm Jamal wrote it but had no issue putting it up.
    I asked where are their banks, community centers, foundations and charitable donations at?
    CTG made a great point this morning:
    We'd not have a Malcolm or a Martin if they lived in this day and age if folk can't get over their past for the good they've grown to do

  • Phillybruh

    But they continued to do it, even after they reached a level of success that said they didn't have to.

  • hi-liter

    Sounds like Speech is salty that African beads aint selling in 2018.

  • You Could Never

    she indeed liked that photo. And then when the getting got hot her throw rocks and hide your hands ass DELETED it. Fukk her. I thought some of it about the photo, but I aint say it. Bc guess what? I STILL call Jay-Z a stabber. And I stand by that. I also said here and MANY times I dont like him NOR Sean Combs nor a whole lotta folks in that pic but I RESPECT THEIR HUSTLE.

    And HER ass already on the thinnest of thin ice with black folks since her Watermelondrea name comments. A LONG TIME. She is not new to this rodeo and Im glad her ass got DRAGGED. If you gonna post it dont delete it. Stand by that shit and roll on with it. I cant stand her.

  • MsPam

    Thanks for letting who wrote the post, alleged cokehead Wendall was dragging poor Raven over this post on her show today.

  • Chocolate Bliss

    Don't shoot the messenger! What Speech posted is the truth and those men know it. This so beyond Raven and her DNA from every continent in Africa ass. It still doesn't negate the fact that it's true.

  • pure_rachet

    Lol!!

  • iWasteTime

    How do any of us know when they didn't have to. Only 3 people in that pic has reached the level of success that you speak of ...
    8 of them continue to do it but also feed families that weren't theirs, purchased homes and cars for those in need, help skin folk get in and stay in college all with out it being reported. We may not like how they got it but they spreading it. More than I can say for Ms. Simone.

  • E-VannaRootsAllEvil

    Speech got a point

  • MsPam

    She’s not thin ice with all black folks. YOU DON’T SPEAK FOR ALL BLACK PEOPLE!!! We don’t all eat chicken and watermelons!?

  • hi-liter

    Black men aren't the only ones that have made money illegally and cleaned it up and made it legit. Its the American way, ask your president and his white friends, they do it everyday.

  • SpillyNillie

    But why does Jay Z looks as if he's unsure if he wants to be in the pic...

  • You Could Never

    And all of the C. Delores Tucker's in here can stfu AS WELL. If your ass ever danced to a Luke song (degrading women), know the words to Rapper's Delight (degrading women), or know the words to 1st of Tha Month (drug dealing) by Bone Thugs then YOUR ass has helped to perpetuate these same sterotypes. So MISS ME.

  • SpillyNillie

    This is true. I have a homeboy who swears America was made to be taken advantage of...

  • E-VannaRootsAllEvil

    Log off and go to the mall and buy u some nice shoes and bring me back a Choco cookie ??

  • You Could Never

    A LOT of black folks. There. Does that make it better for you? Fukk off my comment. Scrolls up to see if I EVEN SAID ALL AND I DID NOT. If it dont apply...SCROLL ON BY.

  • SumthinSweeter

    oh gawd. too much bitchassness. just like how the queens court said he went off on tamar, but didn't step to Vince about that whole mess with them going on stage? hmmmmm.....

  • SpillyNillie

    While reading this Too Short played in the back of my head....*what's my favorite word..."

  • You Could Never

    BISHHHHHHHHHHH.

    Blow The Whistle.

  • iWasteTime

    Music has always been about drugs, drinking and women.
    Before Rick sang about Mary Jane and Theodis was Standing up in it.
    Rap is literally born from the ghetto as a way to tell what was happening in it.
    Speech has lent his talents to projects that don't all uplift us or show us in a positive light either.
    I guess none of y'all never popped it or dropped it to any of their music huh?

  • Phillybruh

    The money they were making helped ease the guilt for feeding what they fed into the black community. Maybe because I'm a product of a different kind of rap music from rappers who grew up in the same projects and some with the same family dynamic and they fed a generation of listeners hope regardless of where you came from. Instead there is a generation that has been fed how important material things are, how selling drugs is really the only option. How being sexually irresponsible is the thing too do. The list goes on, and now the generation that they influenced the LiL Uzy vertz of the world continuing the cycle, could you imagine if they stopped at one album and then moved on to different types of rap and sound and story telling.

  • iWasteTime

    cause he was .... lol

  • V Dubb

    Chicken and watermelons?

  • SpillyNillie

    *blows the whistle*

  • hi-liter

    That's what 90% of country music is about.

  • WutizstillHERE!

    Most of the rapper up there lived what they rapped about so they spoke their truth in lyrics. Most rappers evolved from that also. ICE Cube, Jay Z, Snoop, David Banner, Rap what you know until you learn there is better. I will take them talking about what they use to do instead of them out there doin it now. Please don't say its the music that make people do what they see. Its the lack of balance of good and bad influences. The ghetto has always had these problems long before rap.

  • Pitty Patty

    This is rich coming from a person who had been paid since was a child. She was like 5 on the Cosby Show. She's never had to worry about where her next meal was coming from. Those men in that picture may have not started in a good place, but all of them have paid their debts to society one way or another. Raven should be quiet. Her invite to the cookout has been cancelled. We don't care about her opinions about our culture in which she wants no part of noways.

  • K to the E to the A

    Just because they rap about it doesn't mean its right. I agree with Speech and with Sandra Rose. We got to do better.

  • hottlanta

    He just mad because he wasn't invited to the party. I bet he like the movie "The Godfather" and John Wayne movies. He went to church and listen to the words from the Bible. Especialy my favorite verse "Slaves be humble to your master where other races felt that if God said it is okay to make money off other people. The Bible taught and glorified the pimp slave trade, and led many impressionable people down a path that they have paid heavily for, while these “successful dudes got paid.

  • Pitty Patty

    Its the REAL American way. Ask the Kennedys.

  • MsPam

    Have you taken a survey?! Gone door to door?!

  • https://www.instagram.com/nymagee/ Ny MaGee

    Black men don't like to check other men, especially other black men. It's a weakness they all have. It's easier for them to attack black women.

  • hottlanta

    You got a point I don't see those cowshells around people necks anymore.

  • You Could Never

    where did I SAY ALL?

    You can go and be a fan of Black Rainbow Brite somewhere that is NOT on MY comment Ms. Pam.

  • Pitty Patty

    Bad and Boujee certainly isn't uplifting woman. lol

  • V Dubb

    Yea no lies told there but then there are plenty other negative things to not glorify....i.e. MJBs continual downward spiral after choosing trash men..Mariah praising her pretentiousness...and plenty of singers glorifying being a side chick. The thing is music is made from what they see or experience. So like the older people at my church..if you don't agree with secular music turn the dial.

  • EMILY POST

    Black male who owns a strip club lashes out at a “black” female for agreeing rap music promotes most of the things negative .... is this not surprising. Tell me when a rapper doesn’t clap at a black female.... kind of proves the point.????? You want the music industry to take some accountability lol Goodluck with that one ... hell the white guys who own them pretend like they don’t even know wtf the rappers talk about. They are like hey I listen to rock... majority of blacks in the entertainment industry sell out their culture and their people.
    Music industry tried to erase darker skinned black women... who the hell with sense would listen to negroes in the music industry that helped the women in their culture be victims of colorism. How can you trust em? Uhhh You can’t. Their art tells their story

  • ZRoJoTheLezBeyond

    You said this correctly... "music" has always been about drugs, drinking, and women. You didn't single out rap music. This is for R&B, heavy metal, grunge, country music, Tejano music, blues, the list goes on and on.. That's what artists rap/sing about in all genres of music.

  • MsPam

    I just want to know how many you personally know that don’t like Raven?! Are you getting paid to keep count?! I hope so, I hate for you to be a fool! Is that your 9-5?!????

  • You Could Never

    We don't care about her opinions about our culture in which she wants no part of noways.
    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
    That poster @Zoud:disqus coming to say in one second that: you cant speak for all black folks. Did you go door to door asking. Or maybe not. She zeros in on ME.

  • Torae

    Doesn’t matter if they changed the fact is they did it and didn’t care about other black people in the process. Their disregard for their own race made them money...PERIOD.

  • MsPam

    I agree about MJB and want people to feel bad for her. Make better choices Marrrry!

  • 1BlueStar

    Why is Jay looking like he ain't tryna be seen with them zeros?? Like "damn, it was supposed to just be me and Diddy...where the rest of yall barely invited negros come from??"

  • Ni Ni

    I posted the same message when that new Atlanta mayor put those (including T.I.) who promote strippers, pimping, drugs, etc. on her committee instead of people trying to promote God and positive things. Raven shouldn't have deleted the post if she really agrees. Speech's message was nothing but the truth.

    I remember the elders fought hard to keep this mess out the community, but they got tired and look what we have. We have accepted the trash in our community instead of taking it out. Just by reading some of the comments on instagram, i see our young people think this behavior is normal. Im going to blame my generation-gen x; i have never seen such sorry parenting, leadership, and lifestyles ?.

    Everybody in that picture is at least 40 and while they don't sell drugs NOW, they dont do anything to discourage the use, promiscuity, etc.; they still glorify their former lifestyle because at 40 plus, they have not become men.

  • You Could Never

    There are others in here who share a SIMILAR stance as I. Why in the FUKK are you not on THEIR comment?

    Flagged as targeted harrassment. FOH now. I dont HAVE to block you. I can just keep right on flagging

  • Pitty Patty

    Right. I speak for black people.
    Not coons and boot lickiin black bishes.
    There a difference.

  • millz

    ? have a seat Clifford

  • Pitty Patty

    One of my favorite songs by Too Short is Cocktales. He degrades the hell out of black women in that song. I'm not above the shits. lol And I consider myself very black and woke. But if I like a song, who's gonna check me?

  • Whiplash(lacejagger)

    Just because a black person has a difference of opinion, vs another black person.. does not make them a coon.

  • millz
  • hottlanta

    Ask Oliver North about the night that plane came down in Tennessee with guns and drugs.

  • Kanyade

    LOL

  • EMILY POST

    Most people in entertainment make that BS up... wake up people..
    Yet they have your kids walking around with tattoos on their face. Rappers are so fake lol they are manufactured just like hairspray rock bands or Disney pop stars...

  • hottlanta

    Wasn't it Tom Hanks son that got ripped trying to be a so called gangster white rapper. That shyt was funny as hel.

  • TxCyn

    Where’s the lie? Only rappers I respect are Lil Wayne and Kanye. Lil Wayne gets a pass Bc he came in at a very young and impressionable age. Kanye I don’t care about his personal life and he is lyrically impeccable. The rest can just go away. Especially Jay-z.

  • ReadingIsFundamental4Real

    Weak TI.... he is that type of dude to tell his chick how to be a woman but can't tell his sons how to defend themselves against other men. He has all the answers for females but is a no show up against his own male peers. Reminds me of that Slim dude that use to try and blog teach us on here.

  • TxCyn

    Thank you

  • SpillyNillie

    Many would say that this is because he was raised in a single-parent home...

  • Blaque Mahogany

    I had to a double take when I saw the dude in the red turtleneck. He looks like Omar Epps (I think that is his name).

  • Ni Ni

    I forgot all about slim. Please dont talk him up lol.

  • ReadingIsFundamental4Real

    So what. Do better. I was raised by a single father. Mother wasn't around til I was grown with my own child. Doesn't give me an excuse to be a shitt mother because mine wasn't there. Or a shitt person because I was scorned in some way. Go to therapy and put your big draws on. Daddy use to always say excuses are lies...and that's no lie.

  • ReadingIsFundamental4Real

    Lol! My bad NiNi!!!

  • Ni Ni

    Oh, i thought that was omar that got in the pic.

  • Blaque Mahogany

    Lol. Hell, maybe it is. But when I look real close...he looks slightly different.

  • Blaque Mahogany

    So what exactly is the debate? Speech didn't say that they hadn't changed. He said they made their money from perpetuating negative stereotypes. Where is the lie?

    P.S. T.I. makes my azz itch.

  • jeniefrumdabloc™

    Ti sure gets triggered a lot especially when some truth is spoken .... I see ya TI... I agree with Raven and that's saying a damn lot considering I'm not too fond of Raven

  • LeeSeeCee

    Speech did NOT tell a lie and TI roasted her cause she was the way easier target which makes him a punk in my eyes. TI will not go toe to toe lyrically, verbally or written against Speech. Get your crap straight TI, you should be embarrassed that you even tried to respond to s truthful statement.

  • jeniefrumdabloc™

    ??

  • Zeta Phi Beta 1920

    Sandra, nail on head!

  • ReadingIsFundamental4Real

    Oh my God. I'm in the service department at the dealership and they have on Trump news....i don't want to hear this shitt! I'm trying to read Ricky Smiley's book and can't with this crap on tv.....

  • Tennessean

    Got the same vibe when TI was "forcing" him to take selfies and ish...lol

  • ReadingIsFundamental4Real

    Fix yo face.

  • Blaque Mahogany

    In lighter news, Faizon Love said that white people built Dave Chapelle and Dave Chapelle has never been funny. His comments were in reference to Monique. His point was that this was not about men v. women, but moreso token blacks. I'm not saying that Dave isn't funny (because I honestly don't know), but I wholeheartedly agree that white America picks and chooses who the bulk of our elite entertainers are. I personally feel like white people built Kevin Hart.

  • Shira Harding-James

    Can’t walk home huh?

  • jeniefrumdabloc™

    ??

  • ReadingIsFundamental4Real

    Went to the showroom to escape and 5 salesmen attacked me trying to sell me a new car. This damn service better be under warranty. I'm being tortured.

  • i troll it like i see it

    He got mad because the truth hurts! It hurts more than any lie ever could.

  • 88

    T.i. is the quintessential SIMP.

  • Luv Pitties

    I thought that man faded into obscurity but no he is still heavily supported by the saltines and even founded some "freedom" coalition

  • Scromes1212

    Oscar Wilde was a dope writer.

  • Pnthr

    Clifford the tiny yellow dog is always disrespecting women, he thinks just because he demeans his doormat wife he can do it to other women as well.

    I don't know how he was raised but shame on his mother (I assume he had no male role model) for raising such an abusive misogynistic little man.

  • hottlanta

    I saw him on television months ago I was like wow. Oliver North is one person the government makes sure he gets his checks on time everyyy month.

  • Mrs. S. Kidd

    If I were Raven, I would deactivate all my social media, take my millions and live happily ever after. Black folk got *way* too much drama. Just stay behind the scenes and collect your coint.

  • Scromes1212

    It's funny people say TI doesn't stand up to men but he punched arguably the greatest fighter ever in the face. And he was alone lol I understand people don't like TI, dude be all over the place sometimes but stop acting like he defended himself cause it was a woman smh

  • hottlanta

    Her girlfriend must be gone. She left her the first time when she was talking smack.

  • ???TheRider???

    I go to a lab in the "good" neighborhood by my job. Whenever I go in, it's at 7 so I can get to work without taking sick time. There are always at least 5-6 old white people glued to Fox, hanging on Dump's every word, agreeing with each other. I just put on my ear buds and laugh.

  • hottlanta

    Yep they thought they picked Eddie until he made Boomerang and complained that the storyline wasn't true because black people didn't own their own companies. He put in a full page spread in the paper and set them straight. They was looking for him to fail without their help. Them white folks might have built Kevin he got his black card last night by not getting into the party.

  • Bonsai

    Interesting... let me go check Faizon out cause that makes a whole lotta sense.

  • what?why

    Is this person still making money - wake up people, no sense in this one.

  • http://www.missjhaneuniverse.com Monday

    TI did EXACTLY what Speech wrote. Still attacking the wrong one...

  • Nina Ross

    A hit dog will holla.

  • EMILY POST

    Yes but he takes his gangster rapper persona very serious he stays in character. Post Malone , mackelmore G easy lol got the game on lock that’s hilarious...

  • Luv Pitties

    Every time I see him all I can remember him saying is "I plead the 5th sir."

  • JustB

    I don't like men that are always ready for an aggressive debate with a woman

  • datjerk

    I never thought if it that way, but Faizon is right. Daves show and the one movie was funny, but his stand up is not and never was. White ppl love his and Leslie Jones brand of comedy though. I dont get it, but i suppose its not for me to get.

  • EMILY POST

    Good luck trying to convince this crowd of that lol

  • shun king

    i have been saying this for years...

  • Smith Jane

    No it wasn’t. Not until the 70s-80s. Shortly after the Vietnam war... that’s when music went way left...

  • Tee Bullock

    ????

  • MissMy2Cents

    If White Supremacist culture congratulated it, what did Black culture do? Blacks bought the records first! I wonder what the guy "Speech___" grew up listening to? Who did he idolize growing up? Now that he's so called "awake". . .he knocks the fellow brother who may have been asleep with him. He's holding these fella's past hostage. And all of them aren't even rappers/producers. When you know better, you do better. But. . .I would love to take a peep inside this dude "Speech___" past. What do we have here?

  • Clara

    I noticed the same thing; everyone criticized Raven Symone but no one saying anything about the person who actually wrote it. I agree with Speech. Our children look up to these men who glorify the "trap life" but look down upon the hard-working man or woman who tries to take care of their children day in and day out. SAD, SAD, SAD!!!

  • ReadingIsFundamental4Real

    I took me and my book outside in the sun. Beautiful Cali day.

  • MsChocCookie

    I'm so sick of these little men, and their Napoleon Complex.

  • MissMy2Cents

    YESSSS! Tell them! I said the same dang thing. What was Speech listening to before he supposedly "woke up"? Trust me. . .he popped locked and dropped to the same degrading mess before the decided to say something "profound."

  • Miss Thang

    Dave is HILARIOUS to me. Comedy is subjective. A lot of black people love Kevin Hart and Steve Harvey, and they have never been funny to me.

  • Anji

    No. My doctorate in music stands to refute this bs about titles topics and themes being as limited as you state.

  • Cali

    But, he did because it's a woman and your alleged ONE example of his toughness cannot counter the many real examples of him acting like a petite soft-core b ytch

  • Cali

    Clifford the tiny yellow dog

    lololololololololololololololololololol

  • dontgetblocked

    I agree with Speech and dare I say it...Raven.

  • Lorenzo Chaps

    I guess we have to remember TI won't step to any man unless he has 20 goons with him. He's definitely the type. Sadly, only a few of us were scratching our head like 'raven didn't even write the post.' None of them, as of the original post even said two words to Speech, who was the writer of the post. I found that interesting.

  • Lorenzo Chaps

    TI aint never been a toe to toe fight or shoot out alone. Stop that. If he ran up on Mayweather, and yes I remember when they fought, trust he wasn't alone.

  • Solstice

    I AM SCREAMING!!!! LMMFAO!!!???????You mean Auntie’s “friend” of the blog Slim? ????????Wooo chile if that ain’t a throwback for real! ???

  • Solstice

    Chile I’m crine ????

  • Solstice

    Me too!! ???

  • rayne215

    Raven was being shady. TI was right to to direct it towards her. Raven been rich since being a child. what has she done for the community? its ignorant to say those in the photo has done nothing when they indeed contribute, but they cant be expected to save the world.

  • hottlanta

    The first time I heard a woman called a whore was in the black church. I remember if a woman had on makeup or had on a skirt at her knees, she was made to stand in front of the church and be ashamed and called all kinds of jezebel and whores. Whereas the man has a litter of kids and nothing isn't said about him but the woman is made to feel shamed that she had sex before marriage. So the rappers got the greenlight women was from the church.

  • MissMy2Cents

    Right. What did "Speech__" and Raven grow up listening to? I want to see their iPods right now! They are so called "awake" yet they knock anybody else assuming they aren't. I'm with TI, every saint has a past and every sinner has a future. Raven was just degrading blacks about their "ethnic" names. Her ass is not on that talk show because she can't see both sides of things. People are trying to hold these men to their past like it's a life sentence. All those men aren't even "rappers/producers". They just stereotyped a room full of black males while being imperfectly black.

  • ZZZ
  • 88

    Who set up the black church?

  • ?Royalty?

    Honey, you were sitting in the congregation of a cult- not a church.

    Publically humiliating a sister or brother in Christ is against what Christ teaches.

  • AG

    Similar to what happen to Ciara last week. She simply reposted John Gray. Why can’t they ever go after the dude?

  • Truth hurts

    Speech told the truth and Raven should have kept her repost up. Raven is STILL getting dragged for the repost but nobody is dragging Speech. He’s not going to get cancelled, or called a sellout or a coon. That’s reserved for black women and black men who have to damn near tell black America that he hates you.

  • Luvi

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6VCdJyOAQYM 1992
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qR63UlpHUeM 1993
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wyDjRd0Tjss 1994 I think, lol
    Speech was always a conscious brother and these songs are from the height of "gansta rap" in the 90s.......

  • LuLu

    up arrow X1000!!!

  • Scromes1212

    It wouldn't matter what he did smh people just don't like him

  • Scromes1212

    I was just making the point that he doesn't back down from men like everyone was alluding to in the comments. I hate how people act like a women isn't capable of defending herself verbally against a man smh Raven ain't scared of TI lol and he is not soft for defending himself against what he thought was a assault on his character.

  • MissMy2Cents

    I knew I knew those "teef" and "head" from somewhere. I was in the 11th grade during this time. Haven't seen them since back then. Well, I see why he made the comments. I was like "Harpo! Who dis' man?" LOLOLOL!!!

  • hottlanta

    Oh I did. I said he was just mad because it took him 30 years to get some trim. I said what woman would want her man wearing skin tight WHITE jeans shaped like Sponge Bob. Then they tried to come at me but I wasn't having it. He was celibate by default, no one wanted his fat behind.

  • hottlanta

    Black women and they cosigned that behavior.

  • hottlanta

    If he wanted to respect black women he would have made sure that the sister that ripped the lyrics on one of those songs got a Grammy. He didn't give his Grammy to her. Tameka the one with the booty and the dancer gave the singer her Grammy. I saw that on Unsung and I was in tears. Speech have several seats.

  • unknown user

    They are business men now, they dont like to be reminded of how they pumped that garbage for years and years and years and still would be if the kids didnt declare them old farts and still bought thier records

  • unknown user

    Lord Jesus! What church you went to??? ?

  • YellowSauce

    correct ... like check your bros ... you have enough on your hands with that by itself lol ... but we have to acknowledge that when you repost something it kind of means you agree with what you are reposting and are talking out the side of your mouth ... raven knew what she was doing ... at the end of the day we are ALL sinners

  • shun king

    its a very bad day when the youth look at the most realistic and logical thing such as getting a job and taking your family as foolish

  • hottlanta

    It was a holiness church and they were a hot mess. I still see some of those women to this day and just shake my head keep it moving.

  • Alicia.Ashe

    Meh. TI Raven Speech and Malcom can all eat shit and disappear.

  • CaramelDrop

    I was reading the few post above scratching my head? because Speech BEEN woke.

  • Jussjess25

    Somebody tell Ti to stfu and keep when he out here destroying and embrassing his wife in these streets. Ti stay worried about the wrong thing.

  • MRiGOThim

    T.I. always reading WOMEN I never see his lil big booty ass talking like that to dudes :/

  • Real men are rare

    Men shouldn’t verbally attack women. It’s unbecoming of a gentleman, but being a gentleman is uncommon in most men today. Men can defend themselves against women, as men. That’s in a non-degrading manner and it’s never petty. Real men are becoming increasingly rare.

  • Scromes1212

    So it's equal when it's time to get paid but unbecoming when I'm defending myself lol ok

  • Real men are rare

    Those are two separate issues. I was not raised around men who cursed around women or picked petty arguments with them. Attacking a woman or disrespecting her looks or even her sex life was certainly out the question. Men and women are equal but different. Women are to be treated with a certain amount of respect simply for being women. When dealing with a masculine woman, or a woman who a man finds offensive, he still behaves like a man. This does not mean being a pushover. Chivalry goes a long way. TI is petty and stays beefing with women. It is not a good look.

  • 88

    The so called yt man created the black churches we have today.

  • Miss K

    Yes!!!!!

  • Miss K

    ????

  • Scromes1212

    And I was raised around women that didn't disrespect men lol but this is not that time. Women won't to be respected the same as men so this is what comes with that. They want to be treated the same and I personally have no problem with that but it comes with consequences. You can't go back to the 70's when it fits your narrative. If we are going to be a progressive society then we have to accept that women are able to handle intellectually aggressive conversations without feeling inferior. In my humble opinion

  • Miss K

    ??????????

  • Real men are rare

    Intellectually aggressive debates are Hillary Clinton vs Barack Obama during a presidential debate, as opposed to Hillary vs. Trump who bought up her husbands infidelities, and constantly berates any woman’s appearance, age, sexuality, and stoops low enough to allude to her menstrual cycle. Barack Obama is a consummate gentleman and that is the difference. Women regularly hold their own in intellectually agressive conversations in the workplace, in academia, in politics, on the news, etc. but that’s not equivalent to dealing with a petty man who attacks women for unnecessary, unprofessional, and unintelligent reasons. I was not born in the 70s, but raised around men and women who respected each other. It still exists. Men who are upset with “modern” women use this as an excuse to be disrespectful. If Raven wrote the post, it was not disrespectful at all. Still TI attacks Raven and not Speech.

  • shell

    I've read Oscar Wilder- a man who enjoyed the company of pubescent boys, and his sins are quite greater than others. All sins are not created equal. Even the Bible points out that.

  • TheyDontHearMeTho

    ?????Smh shaderoom commenters are the dumbest most bandwagon hoppin ass morons on IG. Niggas dnt read nor comprehend shit! Just go by captions. Everybody on the “I hate Raven” bandwagon for what she said about being an American girl when majority of black women dnt even wanna look like black women ?????Too busy trying to look like everything else so y tf they so mad at Raven? And I used to be a fan of TI til he tried to make Iggy happen. Waiting for him to address Speech like this articulate gangsta he pretends to be ?

  • TheyDontHearMeTho

    U can’t be serious lmao Speech was from a Music group that actually made good music with a strong message ?????

  • TheyDontHearMeTho

    Thank you smh

  • monique

    I too thought Raven and Waka were crazy for stating that they aren't black or AA, but after watching Dane Calloway on youtube, it leaves a question in one's mind.

  • Gina7169

    Is this the black John Gray or the white John Gray?

  • Scromes1212

    If you don't believe that post was aggressive and disrespectful then there is no need for us to debate. Like I said TI was defending himself against slander. Period. FYI Hillary calling black men super predators was extra aggressive and disrespectful. Don't throw stones and hide your hand. Male or female

  • WutizstillHERE!

    No one have anybody doing anything. Why do we make OTHER people who aren't directly connected to OUR kids influence them more than we do? Thats what kills me about US. we pull the blame game waaaayyy tooo much. If it was a matter of listening to music to be influenced there wouldn't be a black dr, lawyer, teacher or any functioning member of the black society because majority of us listen to the same music. What makes one different from the other is the balance thats in the household. The PARENTS that help kids understand what they are listening to. It is lack of parental guidance that's the problem not music. And just like books, rap is an exaggeration of the truth in most cases. What makes it relative is that the things they rap about is a part of the community.

  • Kim’s Original Face

    lil big bewty took me out LMAO

  • starryeyed

    Does ths guy Dane Calloway have any credentials? Historian? N199as love to get on youtube and just start talking.

  • EMILY POST

    UHHMMM the problem here is We dont make anybody do anything especially the entertainment industry... Thats why they can sell your kids all that BS because they know the majority of you dont stand up for your children.... You better be sure that if as many white males were gunning down each other as black males they would have shut that down a long time ago.
    This isnt even up for debate anybody who has ever had a psychology class knows that there are things that influence children ... You can tell even from babies that they mimick what they see.
    The Entertainment knows this also..... Now whether you chose to care is totally up to you but dont get on here talking that nonsense. Entertainment industry has a HUGE influence on children and even adults.... I dont need your explanation of rap. They teach courses on it and I've taken a few. The Entertainment industry knows what the impact is of what they do and saying they just give no F's.... and are greedy after money.

  • mona q

    You better say it! "when the majority of black women dnt even wanna look like black women" MANNNNN....TRUTH

  • mona q

    I AGREE...I used to go to a church that was Pentecostal and you were not allowed to wear pants, makeup or earrings. You also could not use tampons unless you had the permission of the church "mother". They publicly shamed teens and young adults (21+) for riding in the same car or even if they suspected you were having premarital s3x, you were shamed in front of the church..SMDH..I agree with teaching morals and holding people accountable but it was just too much.

  • TOO REAL

    TI does it because he's use to controlling Tiny. LASTLY SHE DIDN'T SAY IT BUT SHE REPOSTED THE TRUTH.

  • Banka

    That garbage is still most black peoples reality.. you cant get mad at the artist for painting the picture that they see on a daily basis... To change the narrative you first have to change the circumstances .. !!!!

  • ?Sugar&Spice?

    I really wish he'd stick to cheating on his wife and quit trying to lecture people. He's so annoying and fake.

  • Quitedeliteful

    LOLLOLLOL!!!!!

  • Knocked Kneed and Pigeon Toed

    The way I screamed!!

  • Knocked Kneed and Pigeon Toed

    I agree with the original commment be Speech. My problem is that Raven is the wrong type of person to post something like this.

  • Reina1718

    Yes acting all political

  • Reina1718

    I bet they will still pump that type of music.

  • Reina1718

    She supports alot of hospitals actually& alot of kid foundations... young story tellers foundation, racing gor kuds, women alive coalition.. she doesnt have to post that tho..TI gives to his own charity he made up..dont let they way he talks fool u.

  • Reina1718

    So many ppl speak without researching... ?????

  • Reina1718

    Slander? Its the truth, he didnt blow up for making peaceful love songs lol..T.I doesnt even give back to the community unless its community svc he was told to do... he has his OWN chairty he made but he doesnt give to other charities in need. Dont let his big wotds fool u

  • Reina1718

    ????????????

  • Reina1718

    Right this generation is dumb

  • unknown user

    Well dont you worry about that because tip the former bankhead dopeboy pistol popper turned overnight instagram activist is on the job

  • Kimmie

    Thank you @CaramelDrop:disqus. Speech BEEN woke. A lot of these young kids should research before they talk. Arrested Development made meaningful music, back in the day. This generation knows nothing about good, meaningful music! Glad they were apart of my generation!

  • ZRoJoTheLezBeyond

    I once saw Faizon Love at the Improv in Houston. He was not funny and was laughing at his own jokes. I thought he was going to be funny because I'd always loved his small roles in movies but it turned out he wasn't funny at all IRL. Then, I also saw the Wayans Bros at the Improv because I was coerced into going. They had never been funny enough (to me) to want to go see them perform stand-up. But interestingly enough, they were both hilarious. I guess it just depends on the person because not everyone has the same sense of humor.

  • VernadineTheQueen?

    I agree! ????

  • MRiGOThim

    Yes, I meant him & he is a lil dude but he does have cakes lol!!!

  • http://stupidDOPE.com/ stupidDOPE.com

    Is Speech still running his hotel lobby church cult?

  • http://bettybooplover.tumblr.com/ Berry Melon
  • Reina1718

    Awww lol she only reposted the photo of diddy, TI etc @ jay z's brunch with a caption saying somethig to the sorts of these black men made money off of dissin women, drugs etc & barely give back

  • MissMy2Cents

    Um. . .learn that it takes one person to consume and another to produce?No disrespect but is Speech upset because he's "not in the room"? Speech and these men both created products, i.e. music. The only difference is, more people consumed the others and for longer periods. Let's not put blame on one side. Now. . .if you are upset with the men be upset with the people consuming the music. Also, I don't put nothing past anyone. Again. . .I want to look in his iPod. Many people are hypocrites and guess what. . .we don't know if Speech is one or not.

  • MissMy2Cents

    So. . .he could still be a hypocrite. Bill Cosby and many others fooled blacks all the time. Just because he tells you all one thing doesn't mean he isn't. FYI. . .I don't put nothing past anyone.