MCM builder

The all-women engineering team that designed the ill-fated pedestrian foot bridge at Miami’s Florida International University were highly touted for their advances in a field that is typically dominated by men.

But critics are pointing the finger of blame at the female engineers for design flaws that may have brought the bridge down.

Investigators are still on the scene of last week’s bridge collapse that killed 6 people and injured 9 on the FIU campus in Southwest Miami.

FIU foot bridge

The investigation is focusing on the work done by a team of all-women engineers who were employed by one of the construction firms that designed and built the bridge.



Munilla Construction Management (MCM), the South Miami-based firm that designed the FIU foot bridge, has been sued multiple times for unsafe practices in the past.

In early March MCM was sued by a construction worker who was severely injured when MCM’s “makeshift bridge” at Miami’s International Airport collapsed.

MCM is a Cuban-American, family-owned Miami company founded in 1983 that employs more than 1,000 people in several states. The company is a federal military contractor for the U.S. Army and Navy.

MCM was awarded the $14.2 million minority contract to design and build the cable-stayed bridge. The company is well-connected in Miami politics and it promotes inclusion and diversity in the workforce.

According to Politico.com, Munilla Construction is “about as politically connected as they get in Florida.”

The lead engineer on the foot bridge project is a female, Leonor Flores, who is a graduate of FIU.

MCM builder

Flores led a team of all-women engineers and designers who oversaw the crews that built the prefabricated “instant bridge” by the side of the road using FIU’s own accelerated construction techniques.

MCM partnered with the FIGG Bridge Group, a Tallahassee-Based engineering firm, to move the massive foot bridge into place over 8th Street in just 7 hours on Saturday, March 10.

MCM builder

MCM hailed Flores and her all-women design team in celebratory social media posts on Twitter.com in the hours before the deadly collapse.

But critics say simple mathematics would have prevented the disaster in Miami.

Studies all over the world have shown that boys and men are twice as good at math as girls and women. The gender disparity in mathematics scores explains why there are far fewer women engineers than men in the world.

FIU foot bridge

The FIU foot bridge was designed to be supported from above by a system of thick steel cables (see illustration) and a reinforced concrete center support column. But the cables and the center column had not been installed before the 950 ton, 174-foot bridge was moved into place over 8th street on Saturday.

Sen. Marco Rubio, who lives a few miles from FIU, rushed to the scene of the collapse and shared insider information that the cables were “being tightened” before the bridge collapsed.

It isn’t clear if Rubio was referring to the missing cables that were not installed on the bridge.

After the collapse, MCM stated the cables were not scheduled to be installed on the bridge until 2019. The company did not explain what temporary supports were being used.

MCM Construction deleted their @WeAreMCM Twitter account following the disaster. But the Twitter account is still cached on Google.com.



  • ?Sugar&Spice?

    We all know that people in Miami do not hire qualified personnel; we put our family and close friends on. Bad move!

  • Idare2bdiffrnt

    This is very true. Additionally, it doesnt matter how qualified you are in Miami. If you dont speak Spanish you will likely be looked over for someone less qualified for the same position. Hey, hispanics look out for each other!

  • missmiami305

    Yup! Especially the latinos. Ijs

  • missmiami305

    Talk about a disaster. Wow!

  • http://batman-news.com Roderick2011

    Ba wa wa wa!!

    No one knows the cause and the public will probably never know, but now you’re blaming the ‘all girl engineering’ team?

    If their calculations were off they should have been caught somewhere in the construction process.

  • stevetheque

    Back to the kitchen!! Ok I’m just kidding ladies don’t jump me!

  • Mischelle

    More fuel for the “women aren’t equal to men” argument. In many, many ways we are just not the same but some people don’t want to hear that.

  • http://batman-news.com Roderick2011

    Oh this is going to be interesting with these Cubans who think that they are white–well they were white when they were Cuba now they are going to find out they aren’t white in America.

  • http://batman-news.com Roderick2011

    So you’re ok with being relegated to a low paying job and never having the chance to be your full potential because you’re a female?

    Are you related to my mom?

    Ha,ha,ha!!!

  • http://suzar.com/BOTW/BOTW-ch1d-pages7-8.html Staci Elle

    This whole write up was asinine. When buildings have failed with all male construction teams we don’t blame men, Sandra’s doin a lot here ?

  • http://ebonynsweet.com Ebony N’ Sweet

    Oh my… Women are alot better at ‘burning bridges’ than building them haa.. Pun intended.

  • Y’all Jealous Cuz I’m Prudy

    I bet they hired only 2 or 3 blacks, to say they had diversity. They think they’re white until whites show them they’re not.

  • ?Sugar&Spice?

    Yup LOL

  • ?Sugar&Spice?

    I have to admit it. It’s wrong and true.

  • tintin

    So they designed but who put it up

  • E Jai

    Lol

  • kimberly

    Exactly as I recall the bridge in atl
    Collapsed and I’m sure that was designed by men she is reaching

  • BlueSunday

    Welcome to Costco. I love you.

  • shun king

    they have killed all those people now if it was man the media would be harping for manslaughter charges

  • shun king

    it was set on fire by a crackhead

  • Panther Charleston

    They typically do not focus on the company so early so intensely. I should have known it was for a reason. You know what, no disrespect, but so the hell what it was an all-women company! That should not be an issue. All this crap men have built that’s done killed, maimed, screwed up countless lives. Puhleeze! And another thing, I bet there were plenty of men around, plenty! What the hell were they doing?!

  • Ryan

    Sunday is supposed to be a day of rest – but it looks like stupidity never takes a break.

  • Ryan

    They got quiet about who was responsible for leaving those flammable materials underneath the bridge REAL quick. One person was able to take out a whole portion of a major interstate in a large city… yeah ok.

  • Ryan

    I can easily see this.

  • Mr.LeBrickJames

    Sad. I would never move to Miami, for that very reason.

  • http://batman-news.com Roderick2011

    Exactly.

    One of the first persons who died was a black construction worker.

  • mg

    This is what you get when you don’t hire the most qualified person but put people into positions just because of race and sex. I want qualified people I dont care what sex or race they are.

  • Fire & Ice

    Yes, Yes, Yes!!!! Say it again for the people in the back!

  • http://suzar.com/BOTW/BOTW-ch1d-pages7-8.html Staci Elle

    Girl…

  • Austin Texan

    Regardless if the women or men designed it, they are incompetent Engineers. They should be held accountable.

  • ReadingIsFundamental4Real

    so all the other thousands of structural damages that have killed people or failed don’t get a write up because they were built by men?

  • Readytochokemothernatureout

    Bless those families, what a terrible way to go. This picture too is some sad ish… https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/24224d03a968c98ddcc4b36935d87f763bd4d0d5ea3e8787674842e286f8bb01.jpg

  • ReadingIsFundamental4Real

    Should never happen. damn

  • Readytochokemothernatureout

    They care about kids missing school because their sick rather than a child being beat to death. It won’t bring Aniya back but I hope heads roll.

  • klwbaby

    It broke my heart watching him in court and having to see the animals that killed his daughter.

  • Readytochokemothernatureout

    Yes it was hard to watch…

  • hottlanta

    Watch this video and see how this bridge sways in the wind back and forth. I wonder did the all white men engineering team get punished for this disaster. Imma go head and say it, it if was a all black engineering firms folks would be saying we gave them a CHANCE and they messed up now all of the black engineering firms gotta suffer. They would be saying we knew they were incompetent anyway to do the job but because of diversity we were forced to do it. NEVER AGAIN. Sorry Cubans you got your n-word wake up call you are black. They felt like that in the beginning but they just didn’t want to insult you. Now they put on you blast now you know how they really feel about it. You wanted to make news being an Cuban/all female firm who built the bridge you gotta also makes news in being an Cuban/all female firm in the disaster of the bridge. Can’t have it both ways.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nFzu6CNtqec

  • hottlanta

    Bring me up to date what happened.

  • Kalibutanhong Matang

    Totally agree.

  • NeverSurprised

    ???????
    Please say it louder and from the rooftops so the non-critical thinkers can hear.

  • klwbaby

    A mother and her boyfriend killed her daughter. The father was in the process of seeking custody but the system is slow and unfortunately they didn’t take into account the child was being abused. Its a video showing them in court and I think that was the first time seeing his child mother and boyfriend since the baby died and he breaks down the grief and tears and its really hard to watch.

  • Layah Jhene

    Technically Saturday is the day of Rest. Sunday is like any other day of the week

  • ?Royalty?

    ??????????

  • hottlanta

    Thanks for the info. Like I always say just because you have a uterus doesn’t automatically make you a mother. Gotta earn it. They gonna get there’s because someone gonna whup those azzes in jail. They don’t play when it comes to kids.

  • Vonn

    So, that idiot didn’t want to leave his car on the twisting turning bridge?

  • the guest

    My heart breaks for this beautiful father who loved and wanted to take care of his beautiful child. May the mother and boyfriend go straight to hell.

  • the guest

    Look at their marketing and social media promoting their sex more than their engineering skills. They got a 14 million dollar contract because they are women, not because of a good building record.

  • Mischelle

    Naw, not at all what I was saying. I make more money than my husband and have an advanced degree. However, there are stark differences in our aptitudes and I’m 100% ok with that.

  • the guest

    A company can be 60% white females 40% white males and meet the criteria as a minority owned business eligible for the same minority funding as racial minorities.

    Same as a company can 100% white gay males and is considered a minority owned business. Hiring black people is not necessary to be a minority owned business.

    Unbelievable but true.

  • jeniefrumdabloc™

    Gender has nothing to do with it SMH… Either you know what you doing in your craft or ya don’t …. Folks put more deflections on shyt … Flat out … It was a faulty project and it failed… Thee end

  • klwbaby

    I think that train of thought is still prevalent with child custody issues. They think the mother is best and completely disregard the father and his rights. Unfortunately in this situation, an innocent baby died because they thought the father was lying about the abuse.

  • hottlanta

    I know right. I was looking at a program about bridges and they showed this one and I was like is he gonna get out of the car. It was amazing to see the wind blow that bridge around like it was a tree of leaves Truly amazing.

  • http://sandrarose.com SandraRose

    I studied architecture before I changed my major to nursing. Construction crews don’t have calculators crunching numbers at the work site. Their job is to build the structure based on the blueprints. If the blueprint is flawed, that’s the fault of the designer, not the crews who put it up.

  • http://sandrarose.com SandraRose

    The difference in Miami is the bridge fell a few days after it was put up. It wasn’t even open to foot traffic until next year. Just a few days after it went up and it was already on the ground in pieces.

  • leapyearpisces

    annnddd. Ley us not forget the TRAGIC 1981 Hyatt Regency Skywalk disaster all because they didn’t want to wait on the correct bolts. SMH. That was a team of your WASP males.

    http://commandsafety.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2011/07/F03W_St_81.jpg

  • Blaque Mahogany

    @sandrarose

    TIME for a medical minute. STD cluster in Milwaukee. 125 people, including high school students, have been infected with HIV, syphilis or both.

    Smh.

  • hottlanta

    People have tried to get me to crash and burn when I say that but I stand my ground when it comes to the kids. Women won’t equal rights when it comes to pay but when it comes to the mistreatment of kids they still try to use that same analogy. Can’t have it both ways. I was looking at Vanzant and those 5 young men mother and she had all of those kids and still didn’t have a clue of who she was. Those kids had been in over 85 foster homes and living in cars on the street and she wanna be recognized as a mother. Made my blood boil to no end.

  • http://sandrarose.com SandraRose

    The lead engineer said it was important to promote engineering to her daughter. What’s important is being at home raising her daughter and teaching her daughter how to be a woman.

  • klwbaby

    If this company has been cited for unsafe practices, why are people still using this company.

  • http://realitytea.com/ Lady Chatterley’s Lover

    Right. Have you also noticed that a Black person is usually the spokesperson in human error or culpability news. It’s like they have them locked up in the back room then dust them off and throw them in front of the cameras.

  • http://sandrarose.com SandraRose

    It’s funny that MCM deleted their Twitter page after the disaster because they didn’t want their faces to be seen. They bragged on Twitter before the bridge was even completed. But after it fell, they want to hide their faces.

    How about not bragging until the bridge is finished? The bridge was not scheduled to open until 2019, yet they are bragging in 2018.

  • http://sandrarose.com SandraRose

    Ask the Miami lawmakers who pocketed political donations from this company.

  • http://sandrarose.com SandraRose

    Gender has a lot to do with it. Men are more analytical, they are better at math crunching numbers, and they pay attention to the entire picture, rather than the “artistic” parts of the picture.

    Women are great at raising children and nurturing families. It’s a shame we abandoned our homes to go into the workplace and compete with men.

  • hottlanta

    Kinna late. There was a PBS Special in 1999 that got a Peabody Award called the Lost Kids of Rockdale County about a white middle class neighborhood syphilis outbreak. Check out the clip. We told our beautician about it last month because she lives down the street from those neighborhoods. She didn’t believe it she had to check it out for herself.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HNypg1x-m10

  • hottlanta

    Betta say it.

  • klwbaby

    So they are more concerned with money than public safety? That’s really sad…..

  • Meme

    So people had to die just for these feminists to prove a point disgusting

  • Rayne

    Yea gurl I saw this too. You saw the video of these white term drinking beer out of a dead moose stuffed with ice. Blood and chit everywhere. Utterly fawking gross I tell ya. He spitting up bloody beer. Every year they give me something to throw up about. Wow!

  • kennedy220

    weird. i always figured women were more analytical. they seemed to make the better grades in my high school and college life. but that’s just my personal look at things in life..but of course not every man and not every woman..i’m also thinking about the POC i saw in school where the black guys in high school seemed to be reading at a 5th grade reading level

  • Waya Hedia

    Holy shit. I did not know this. Good work Sandra.

  • Y’all Jealous Cuz I’m Prudy

    Yep! And that black person usually is be so proud and eager to take up for them. They don’t even realize how and why they’re being used. Smh.

  • KISSmyENTIREass

    I’m still lost on why the bridge was made available to the public before it was %100 completed and no stress test performed. I also dislike Marco Rubio?? He is a disgrace to his own people.

  • KISSmyENTIREass

    It’s just plain sad! I bet they start pointing fingers at men behind the seen instead of taking the responsibility for they actions.

  • shun king

    what about if they an ALWAYS find more qualified white people because that is very easy to do

  • shun king

    if he had stood up and been a man this would not have happen that child had been abused for a year and he didnt notice anything he could have took the child to the police that boy is seeking attention who even take a pic like that

  • shun king

    how do you know he wa in the process have you seen the paper work or did he just say that??

  • hottlanta

    Those kids were having so much sex I felt left out. The way they were talking about how they would go into a hotel and one girl will have sex with all the boys and one boy would go in and have sex with all the girls. They put stuff animals on top of each other and talk about how they made a sex sandwich and Megan Kelly on The View got the nerve to say she learned about the words “oral sex from Bill Clinton. She needs to have several seats. I was ROTFLMAO when folks said they were shocked white kids had this kind of sex. As if they expect the OTHER “wink wink” kids to have sex like this.

  • nick c

    Most girls start struggling with chemistry, physics, advanced algebra, geometry, trigonometry calculus etc those are the things that make up civil engineering.

  • Readytochokemothernatureout

    Wtf else could he do the daycare took her to the emergency room and handed over 14 observation reports. This lies with CFS and the family who turned blind eyes.

  • http://batman-news.com Roderick2011

    Megan Kelly= Megyn McCain

  • http://batman-news.com Roderick2011

    BTW where are your husband and children?

  • Jethro

    You sound like a male chauvinist, but I’m not surprised.

    Also, there’s nothing “diverse” about an all-woman crew.

  • klwbaby

    Since I don’t know him, I haven’t personally seen the paperwork.

  • Readytochokemothernatureout

    That police report alokne the daycare gave should of took her out of the danger with her mother.

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  • MsAmour22

    Sandra, you’ve made me chime in from my lurking status for this lol. As much as I love my sisters/wombmen, I have to agree with you. One of the aspects that I love about men is their analytical mind and effortless left brain capabilities. My grandfather was a master construction carpenter, it came natural to him, never trained or went to school, self taught, he built our family house among other projects. No woman doing the same could ever compare to his skill set. Not to say that a woman couldn’t be an amazing engineers of course we can, hell we build and construct one of the most phenomenal creations on earth, humans, but men are better when it comes to building & fixing things, their brains are wonderfully wired slightly different than ours for tasks like this. Sorry not sorry.

  • ?Sugar&Spice?

    As much as I hate to agree, I have to. Women need to quit trying to take on traditional male roles and allow men to be men again.
    We can do what they do (well…not in this particular case LOL) so there’s no need to prove it.

  • klwbaby

    I think a lot of people failed with this child.

  • MsAmour22

    Right! And I feel girls would be great with these subjects if they were taught at an early age with encouragement.

  • Vonn

    WOW. How was the bridge opened sooooooo early?

  • Fire & Ice

    Yeah I can’t stand Rubio either!

  • hottlanta

    Thanks for the correction. How you gonna be from a generational military family where your mom was the sidepiece and you knew nothing about sex. One of my friends son got her fooled as to why he doesn’t want to go to a black college. He told her he didn’t want to be around any hoochies. She was soooo proud.I guess mom forgot about those Girls Gone Wild Tapes where white college girls would be loaded/drugged out and take off their clothes to be on video. You know my dumb behind was snickering.

  • shun king

    i am thinking he have not even saw the lil girl in a year from the pic i saw he only have pics with her when she was small…i would think the court would have gave him some rights if the chick beating the kid and he had evidence..its possable the daycare said something and he never stood up to take the child into his care..i think they all dead beats

  • Vonn

    Those white hoochies will use her son & cry rape. Start calling him n I g g e r & claim domestic abuse. Your friend better wake the heck up.

  • Readytochokemothernatureout

    Sometimes folks are bitter and take it out on the kids because they hate the other parent. I mean she lied and said the daycare beat her she was capable of lying on the dad too. End point is CFS dropped the ball miserably.

  • Readytochokemothernatureout

    I said relatives had to see these marks too. Smh

  • Lorenzo Chaps

    So unfortunate.

  • Lorenzo Chaps

    Basically. Society deals in the gray area, contrary to what they’d have the public believes. right/wrong is black/white, but when that money gets involved, gray area and looking the other way.

  • Roxie Moxie

    I TOTALLY disagree with this! lol I work at a very prominent diagnostics company in Upstate NY and I work with many scientists, engineers, etc., and many of the top notch in their profession are WOMEN. You can’t use one example of a failing bridge and then categorize all women as not being able to do what men do. In some respects, you may be right ( I wouldn’t want a man performing my bikini wax nor doing microblading for my eyebrows).

    However, making an generalize is pretty small minded, in my opinion.

  • ~~eb

    He had been trying to get custody for over a year.

  • Lorenzo Chaps

    yep, cuz even now you pay off the lawsuits to the families, fire this crew, and now bring in your frat brother/homeboy to finish the job and save the day.

    I wouldn’t be surprised if someone soft demo’d that ish. Remember, the powers that be cares nothing about my life or yours. U better know that they’ve already had meetings about who will now take over the construction of this bridge.

  • stevetheque

    They were just sued! An airport worker fell through an employee walkway built by this group. If they can’t build a walkway to support one fat guy, what were doing building a large bridge to support thousands?

  • Lorenzo Chaps

    I was thinking the other day about execution and seeing details through. I wondered if one race is worse at this than others–failing to execute even the most trivial or basic things.

    Topic: I do think it matters and a lot of people don’t want to be honest that certain sex, race, etc are better at doing some things that others. I said above that I wouldn’t be surprised if sm1 demo’d that bridge to get the project for their own company.

  • stevetheque

    While you were playing with raggedy Ann and easy bake ovens, we were playing with blocks and build forts!

  • Lorenzo Chaps

    Oh this the guy that was in court balling? Yeah, horrible story.

  • Meme

    Very true I was laughing though because you really do have a way with words ?

    ‘If they can’t build a walkway to support one fat guy, what were doing building a large bridge to support thousands?’

  • ?Royalty?

    ???

  • mg

    Whoever is most qualified should get a job no matter the color or race. If you can’t get work because you are not good at it maybe its time to look for another job.

  • Mr.LeBrickJames

    So his mama thinks “hoochies” only go to black colleges?
    She sounds really naive, to put it mildly.

  • Stationarity

    Girls can and would be great at them if their parents and teachers didn’t unconsciously dissuade them against it. I am a Quant and just as analytical as any male…American, African, Black, Indian, or Asian. Me and my one other American female counterpart both have mothers with math degrees. It’s all about your upbringing. Someone mentioned black males with a 5th grade Reading level. That’s not genetic, that is systemic of parents that don’t understand that they are responsible for their child’s education. The same phenomena can be found in rural/poor white areas or areas with parents working their butts off and leaving education to the public OR private school system.

  • ?Royalty?

    What’s crazy about this is…….it’s ONE bridge, yet men have been building faulty bridges and so many other things that have collapsed and k!lled thousands of people for ages…..but ONE bridge and dayum near every chick on the planet that likes math and science is simply a functioning retard.

    I cannot….and yet at the same time, I find the idea absurdly hilarious. ??

  • Bonsai

    Yikes! ?

  • Cali

    Blaming Women and Diversity? I think Not. The bridge design did look so so, but the real questions are:

    1. The bridge was INCOMPLETE so why was it in use during a stress test?
    2. What is the reliability of this company? Prior incidents? You mentioned some above and I bet there are more issues with this company.
    3. What is the education of these “Engineers”? To what level and area specifically? Chemical, Mechanical Engineering? BA, MA, PhD? Who was hired to oversee what and by whom?

    My guess is corruption as the cause and someones pockets got fat at the expense of innocent lives being crushed to death.

  • Cali

    Makes absolutely NO SENSE that a bridge is open before it is complete. WTF and that is the REAL question.

  • Roxie Moxie

    Exactly! Didn’t MEN build the space shuttle Columbia that blew up upon lift off?? It was years ago……so, I think that debunks Sandra’s perception with the quickness. Failures happen all the time whether done by men or women. Hell, most cars are put together by men who created machines to do so, yet recalls are in abundance.

    Maybe she shouldn’t have commented. ??

  • Roxie Moxie

    ??

  • hottlanta

    Would you trust a man to build or fix things around your house if he had a weave on his head. Did your grandfather a master carpenter wear a hair weave or go and get his nails did. Did he wear unisex metrosexual clothes like shiny glitter /sheer/ see through t-shirts or skinny jeans. Since we need to stay outta their lane they need to stay outta the women lane. Why are they getting weaves they should be grow old gracefully like they always tell women. That weave might make them look 30ish but their balls will always say 50/60ish.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xIRuZFLDHP0

  • Damian Thayer Jr

    No, the point is to see the irony in the bragging of it being built by an all female team and the constant praise and show boating that surrounded it. Had it been an all female team that didn’t showboat and try to make it a big Feminist breakthrough nobody would care, if it had been an all male team that went online talking about how men are the best and can do anything only to have it fail they would be put on blast too, it wasn’t Just because it was a female team, stop simplifying it to make it sexist.

  • Vonn

    At least 9 months early & it wasn’t complete. That is just bonkers. I read the story 3 times trying to figure out what I’m missing.

  • NeverSurprised

    The same liberals who scream “science deniers” are the first ones to ignore the realm of science that got us all here in the first place — biology. We can deny it if we wish, but MEN AND WOMEN ARE BIOLOGICALLY DIFFERENT. The hunting and building skills of man date back centuries, as do the gathering and nurturing skills of women. Were it not for these clearly defined skill sets, the human race would have died out long ago.

    That is not to say that women cannot excel in traditionally male roles. I have a law degree and now own a real estate development company, so I am certainly comfortable in nontraditional roles. HOWEVER, I now realize I would have gotten far more development projects completed in a timely manner had I placed a MALE figurehead at the forefront of my company.

    There have been times I have let sympathy and emotion rule n circumstances when a man would have simply fired certain workers on the spot. Instead, I often worried about their families and children, and gave them second chances, only to end up having to get work re-done to suit my exacting standards. It cost me in both time and money. A man would never have allowed emotions to cloud his judgment the way I have on many occasions.

    We cannot deny biology.

  • shun king

    i dont think you really understand the gravity of what you are saying so i will leave this alone

  • shun king

    did you see how she walked into court like shes didnt give af..did you hear that 911 call?

  • http://batman-news.com Roderick2011

    Republicans are such damn hypocrites.

    Reagan was the first divorced president and Nancy was giving blowjobs to any man in Hollywood who would give her the chance. Then she invited Frank Sinatra to the White House when Ronnie was out of town and we know about Frank’s reputation.

  • Readytochokemothernatureout

    No one is defending the lady at all I’m on the daddy’s side. She knew the baby was dead all the time, the 911 dispatcher was more alarmed than she was. May she got in hell and that cell. May CFS get in trouble too.

  • http://batman-news.com Roderick2011

    I live in Florida and one of them got drunk in a restaurant and cussed out a group of his fellow black legislators and called them all sorts of ‘n’s’.

    He apologized and resigned but yeah he showed his true a$$!!

  • V Dubb

    My brothers are engineers and they consistently report problems and mistakes made by men. It’s either ego which doesn’t allow them to listen to direction, just being an overall ass, or over shooting estimates of their work. That’s how plenty of the chemical plant explosions, grid fallouts, etc happen. By men!!! Its a male driven industry and for years they have been the ones failing…so one fail from women is a pebble in the grand scheme of things.

  • stevetheque

    While you were playing with raggedy Ann and easy bake ovens, we were playing with blocks and building forts! Back to your easy bake ovens women! Don’t hurt me ladies, I was just kidding!

  • Enoughsaid2020

    This was an inspection, and design flaw, but should have, had multiple safety checks. All men designed a bullet train, and it killed over 10 people, the first day it made its first run. This could have prevented as well, if they had put down the safety, speed bumps on the track. SMH!

  • Phyllis

    If anything Every goes wrong, black folks or women will be put to blame. This is so typical !!

  • Sally Wright McLinn

    “MCM is a Cuban-American, family-owned Miami company founded in 1983 that employs more than 1,000 people in several states. The company is a federal military contractor for the U.S. Army and Navy.”
    Rubio is Cuban-Amer and I wonder what influence he had in their getting the contract.
    I agree with Enoughsaid – men also make design mistakes. But the difference is this is all women, all minority, so not only looks bad (we have to be twice as good) it’s going to at the least put them out of business after all the lawsuits start flying.

  • jeniefrumdabloc™

    I don’t see gender Sandra ? ..

  • AnotherBlackGirl

    This company MCM has been sued several times in the past due to faulty mishaps and have a multi-million government contract with the US Army and Navy??? Unbelievable.

  • Enoughsaid2020

    I totally agree with you, and sounds like they have, had problems before.

  • Mr.LeBrickJames

    Yup. Multiple lawsuits are coming. And there’s a good chance they’ll lose their engineering license too. It’s hard to see them coming back from this.

  • Mishala~

    I’ve looked on their website and I searched everywhere,I never saw a source saying that the company had hired nothing but women? Because on their site, I see nothing but men, save for a few token women?

  • Darren Therrien
  • AnotherBlackGirl

    I played with both, building blocks and easy bake ovens. I never owned a raggedy Ann I think she was way before my time. Lol

  • the guest

    RIP to the victims. This tragedy was preventable.

  • Realnigga101

    The fact of the matter is that; men and women are not equal, so don’t come on here playing the victim’s card now.

  • shun king

    oh i know i was just asking did you see it..what the hell was going on in them two people mind to sit there and kill that child like that

  • StartToStopTalking

    Education is one thing, but talent is what separates the winners from the killers.

  • Readytochokemothernatureout

    And she lied about Red Lobster smh, he was whooping her tail in the parking lot not long before this. They both deserve injections.

  • Phyllis

    We may not be equal, but sometimes deal with the same mess..

  • Kemi

    This is quite unfortunate but lack of craftsmanship, inexperience/patience and personal/monetary gains caused this mishap.

    Why was the stress test conducted during rush hour? This is an utter incompetence at best. May the victims find justice.

  • Secret Agent 86

    If the bridge was designed to have a center support with steel cables shouldn’t they have been in place already? Why would they think a suspension bridge would be okay for one year without having the actual “suspension”? That’s like building the GWB deck before hanging the cables, it ain’t gonna work.

  • Chris

    so you think white men are to blame for this?

  • ntt1

    Yes dammit its the patriarchy ..again

  • Anon_Amous

    Women were responsible for this, presumably of various colors. They fucked up, they will be treated equally as male fuckups are through litigious means.

  • Phyllis

    Black folks or women are normally to blame. We are the easy target.

  • Joan Galt

    Ain’t affirmative action grand?

  • Waya Hedia

    Well, hiring anyone doesn’t change the ownership of a business anyway.

  • Waya Hedia

    What the hell are you babbling about. People agree to take a job and do the work. Then they get paid. Really nothing more to it.

  • Coy Coleman

    I guess the new concrete that used flour did not work out….

  • ReadingIsFundamental4Real

    What in the FUCK does that have to do with this story?
    Ignorant

  • Conscience

    Everyone is not called for the same things in life. Please try doing what you are called for and don’t want to do something because Men do it. This is horrendous.

  • Will A

    Seriously? Are you really that stupid?

  • Faux Gibbler

    IDGAF some things I just don’t feel women should be doing.

  • ReadingIsFundamental4Real

    Somebody close the flood gates on this blog. These skinheads have left the trailer park….

  • https://docs.google.com/document/d/13G0TkQwFZ9tP-6Oax64Fj8wIuh6pxQHmvktAQFieiUY/edit?usp=sharing Luke Lea

    See comments to Steve Sailer’s post on this. The suspension cables from above were just for show. Also some question about whether women actually designed the bridge.

  • mg

    Yeah lets put people into position they can’t handle because they happen to maybe be a female or a particular race. Whats the worse that can happen if unqualified people get a job….oops. Teaching my daughter that she has to earn what she wants if she gets something just because she is a women that cheapens the reward of hard work.

  • amortiser

    Firstly, if it is a fact that generally males are better at maths than females (my apologies for being so gender specific) that says nothing about the mathematical ability of any individual.

    The problem arises when hiring decisions are made on the basis of group identity. Rather than hiring on the basis of demonstrated ability and competence the first consideration is given to group identity.

    The results of such decisions can be catastrophic.

  • Fire & Ice

    Oh really?!!. No big surprise though

  • DarqueKnight

    because vagina

  • Fire & Ice

    I’m sure Rubio had some input, on this company being awarded this contract. Rubio doesn’t live that far, from where the bridge collaspe. These Hispanics in Miami, are always getting jobs and contracts that they’re not qualified for. Meanwhile, blacks have to jump through hoops, to get anything decent. I’m happy this wasn’t a black owned company. Hopefully this tragedy will shed some light, on all the shadiness here in Miami. Prayers for the victim’s and their families ?

  • Phyllis

    Ehhhh. Just seems kinda messed up that we are singling out women on this tragedy.You rarely see that done..

  • Fire & Ice

    I hope they lose their license. With this companie’s history, they should have never gotten this contract. But it’s a Cuban owned company, so FIU was willing to look the other way. If this was a black owned company, they would have never gotten this contract.

  • Alleena

    Who are you to complain? Currently, white men are being blamed to everything and anything that is wrong with this world. This kind of general blaming is always wrong no matter which group is at the receiving end.

  • RON

    Why not hire the BEST regardless of color or sex? Because we gotta have the RIGHT NUMBERS for the racist Obama and the leftist fascists.

  • RON

    They wanted a new nursery rhyme. London bridges…..

  • Brenton Siddons

    the sisterhood solidarity choir starts to hummmmm…that is foreskinheads to you baby.

  • Brenton Siddons

    so in your world “equality” is off limits and replaced by the victimhood card in situations where “black folks” or “women” pee in the cornflakes…

  • strayaway

    I don’t blame women. Certainly there are women who have made their mark in engineering and science. I’m guessing this is what happens when diversity and politics are prioritized over ability like the running of computer systems under Obama causing snafus rolling out the ACA and the hacking of millions of federal workers records at the DOA.

  • Brenton Siddons

    exactly …not politically correct to play the blame game when a victimized minority screw up …

  • Jack Blakk

    The hiring in a lot of States is granted to the lowest bidder and best palm greezer. That’s why the Millennium Tower in S.F. is sinking!

  • Brenton Siddons

    it is not about “gender” per se, it is about perception vs reality and the perception in this case points to the unrivalled incompetence of those responsible, whom it appears put political correctness ahead of due diligence.

  • Brenton Siddons

    Building a bridge is not”rocket science”so take a breath…men have been designing and building stuff like bridges throughout recorded history and a good many of these structures still stand.. history is littered with the carcasses of the men who failed…Our current culture continues to promote the theory that women are equal to, and in many cases even superior to the male of the species in all aspects….so when the shoe happens to be on the other foot …equality of outcome goes out the window and men are beasts for holding women to the same standard they have lived with for generations.

  • Brenton Siddons

    The fact you can still google this up as an example of failed engineering speaks for itself. The team of men responsible for this collapse lived with this calamity until the day they died. Incidentally…nobody died…

  • Pootietang

    STOP PUTTING THESE REFUGEES IN CHARGE OF ALL THIS IMPORTANT SHIT!!!

  • SlyNine

    Citation(s) needed.

  • SlyNine

    Uhh, everything. It was an ALL female construction crew who was given every pass and constantly told failure was everyone else fault.

    A school system set up for girls, with curriculum modified to make them feel better. Easier grades just for being female. Free money to start business just for being female.

    TONS of opportunities that they wouldn’t have had JUST FOR BEING FEMALE. They took jobs, opportunities, and resources away from men for THIS.

    https://www.dailywire.com/news/8071/study-yes-theres-grading-bias-%E2%80%93-favor-women-pardes-seleh

    http://cee.lse.ac.uk/ceedps/ceedp133.pdf

  • SlyNine

    Stop giving women free passes and this shit will change. Of course people are going to blame a pampered group that can’t compete on merit. Who fucks shit up.

  • SlyNine

    Men have built millions of bridges. A group of women build one bridge and it falls down. They were there ONLY because they were women.

  • SlyNine

    lol yea sure, you keep telling yourself this. Education has abandoned merit to make women feel better and women didn’t reject it.

  • SlyNine

    And what allowed these women to get in this position. “Corrective discrimination” aka discrimination against men.

    This starts in schools, in the inability to acknowledge why men are more prominent in these fields. Men have a 14 point IQ advantage in spatial.

    But yet they want to deny this, they want to look at the IQ’s of 11 year olds (because thats the only age girls have an advantage) and say we should see parity. Then you get women diversity highers, not based on merit but based on gender.

  • CopperCutie

    B.S…… I’m a Black female Engineer and graduated Magna Cum Laude. This has absolutely nothing to do with women not being great Engineers. There are many players involved in the construction, material and safety aspect of building things, whether it’s bridges, cars, planes etc; therefore MANY things can go wrong.

  • angrywhiteman

    UNDER AFFIRMATIVE ACTIONS PROGRAM HA HA HA

  • Sunshine4Snowflakes

    Total BS- absolutely agree. Where were the public safety officials??? The urban planers?? The inspectors?? I am appalled at this article. To blame engineers? The bridge passed inspection did it not? If not they should have closed the road below and not used the bridge. For roofs on houses we do a load test for a certain time frame. Does that not apply to pedestrian bridges? The engineers designed the bridge, they did not build the bridge, do the load test, sign off on the inspection. Public officials are who I would be looking at!!

  • http://www.ourladyisgod.com Mr. Nobody

    If you believe that 2+2=5, then under the new rules it is so… until the building falls down.

  • leapyearpisces

    Yep. You are right. Like I said earlier, this is not a woman thing. It’s the fact that Quality Assurance / Quality Control failed at their jobs. If it were ME, when I start to make heads roll…I would start heads rolling there. They didn’t do their job whether woman, male, heterosexual, homosexual, white or black, or other- Quality Control are the ones to blame. They failed.

  • G Fresh

    The article reads: “Studies all over the world have shown that boys and men are twice as good at math as girls and women. “.
    This is stupid. Even IF there are more men that are good at math than women……. there are SOME women great at math and some guys that are horrible at math. Are you saying the women that got degrees and designed the bridge, don’t know sufficient math? If so, isn’t it unlikely they would have obtained degrees?

  • G Fresh

    According to an engineer from Cornell, design is almost NEVER the reason for building or bridge collapse. It’s usually the construction.

  • codebusters

    Lead engineer, Leonor Flores, “We’re able to put in an artistic touch and we’re able to build, too.” Building bridges is not flower-arrangement. The competence to build should be central to building bridges, not an incidental accompaniment to aesthetics. The reason that men are better at building bridges is not just the math… men are more connected with the culture of getting it right the first time. Unlike the culture that emphasizes flower arrangement and the artistic touch.

  • http://batman-news.com Roderick2011

    LOL

  • http://batman-news.com Roderick2011

    Skinheads are Sandra’s play cousins.

  • Medi Salam

    Calm the fuk down, studies clearly show that if you take the top 10% it’s virtually all male. The reason it seems females are smarter overall is because there are SO MANY stupid males. Human nature is an amazing thing.

  • http://batman-news.com Roderick2011

    It’s easy for you to say that if you’re a white male.

    The problem is that many people who feel the way the OP does would use stereotypes and generalizations to deny certain groups the chance to even learn math or science if there were limited resources.

  • jeniefrumdabloc™

    I like how you explained that… My point exactly …. Agreed .. ?

  • jeniefrumdabloc™

    I just love you… ??? chile … Folks put more labels on shyt … Fact is… Fuggas failed at building a strong bridge . And did a half azz job tis why that bytch failed das it. Oh because women engineered it… ? let’s put all women in a box of gender as if a woman can’t be shyt to build anything …. Chile …

  • jeniefrumdabloc™

    Excellent point … ???

  • jeniefrumdabloc™

    Chile …. ?? folks I tell ya ? I just laugh at this point … All the shyt men done built throughout history … Has failed by the way obviously look at this world …. But folks still putting men higher than women .. Haven’t enough ain’t shyt things happened in this world because of this logic … SMH..

  • codebusters

    I happened to look into that. NASA management was plagued by the same pc, affirmative action bs then as what this bridge collapse is associated with now.

  • Jame Brokaw

    all the civilizations that women have built are vastly superior. I just need you to name one.

  • Ray S

    It is not a question of gender but of attitude.If it were an all male team and they bragged how they are superior to females it would likely fail also. Details, details, details; check and recheck your calculations,test and retest. Check your pride at the door and pay attention to your job. Women are more than capable to do this, but to do it with the mindset just to show the mens team they can beat them is wrong. Where was the construction manager, the architect, the project manager and the construction super during this test? I think it is a fail on multiple fronts.

  • Mcs Vette

    Corruption leads to lower quality….picking winners for wrong reasons…

  • Mcs Vette

    All the maternal societies… Latin America, Southeast Asia…

  • Mcs Vette

    As nonwhite, I can say, no one denies us anything, we choose to do something we are better at… problem is, later in life when that indecision to do math and science leads to lower quality of life, we start blaming.

  • http://batman-news.com Roderick2011

    Wrong.
    A lot of it is generational too.

    If your father, grandfather or uncle is an engineer you’re exposed to math and geometry at an early age and you probably development an affinity for those subjects while you are young and you are able to learn incrementally over years and without pressure while a minority child doesn’t receive that expose and has to make up for it in the class room and doesn’t have anyone outside the classroom to help explain those subjects one on one.

    And let’s not discuss the gender bias which would make girls less likely to become engineers than boys.

    A good example was a lawsuit that a group of black firemen in Connecticut sued because the fireman test unlike the test of most municipalities was skewed more heavily toward knowledge than call center performance.

    Of course the white firemen grew up with fathers, grandfathers, uncles and brothers who discussed firefighting science around the dinner table and most of the white firemen actually had academic backgrounds in fire science so of course the black firemen were at a disadvantage.

  • http://batman-news.com Roderick2011

    My point was that generalization and stereotyping can lead to a slippery slope where certain groups are denied the chance to become the best they can.

    I guess you’re ok with women being relegated to low paying jobs like secretary.

  • Fred234

    Diversity makes us stronger, but not bridges.

  • Alicia.Ashe

    You’re an idiot

  • Alicia.Ashe

    This post has brought out all these crybaby azz men trolls :/

  • Fred234

    Umm….Latin America is filled with violent $hitholes. SE Asia has a large musloid population (anti-women) and is also filled with Shitholes. My God you are one ignorant female.

  • Trey

    smh

  • Fred234

    Actually with AA in place women and mud people are given spots that they do not qualify for. I will refuse a mud person as a healthcare provider for this reason. Sadly, you cannot trust a degree from most universities as they have been highly politicized.

  • pelermon

    100% on the engineering firm. Instectors only make sure it is built to their specs. These Affirmative Action ENGINEERS Are NOT QUALIFIED – Plain and Simple.

  • pelermon

    100% on the engineering firm. Instectors only make sure it is built to their specs. These Affirmative Action / Minority owned ENGINEERS Are NOT QUALIFIED – Plain and Simple.

  • Fred234

    The problem is that there are complete and utter morons such as yourself that just repeat garbage phrases just to make themselves feel virtuous. Whites have built schools, universities, clinics, hospitals around the world for the last 200 years promoting education for mud people. If anything, it is the local population that keeps women and people that are darker than them from learning maths and science. Another problem people of your ilk refuse to acknowledge is the general IQ levels of the different races. Your stupid statements only serve to inflame low IQ people into believing that it is the ‘white man’ that is the problem when the problem actually resides in them.

  • mona q

    I’m backing out of this post…can’t get my blood pressure up today…by reading a few comments, I can already see that I am not the one…not today satan.

  • Hamudi Mohammed

    Just because you’re good at it doesn’t mean all women are. What the fuck? Do you even logic?

  • Tyrone Jenkems

    this.

  • Tyrone Jenkems

    The death of innocent people has.

  • SingleGalCrazyWorld

    I hate to tell you this Sandra but project engineer doesn’t mean lead engineer when it comes to structural (bridge) engineering. When a project has multiple firms backing it there is usually one person who heads the project and so unless this woman lost a mustache and 50lbs over the weekend this is not the same Project Manager that has been interviewed since this happened. The work was rushed and quick any walking support bridge has to have a middle support beam unless its made out of Vibranium (which our asses dont have). Her name was probably used because she is a FIU alum and when they bid on the project they used her as the face. The school jhad to decided on an company who wanted less money and who could make the bridge in the quickest time… But what do I know…I just managed an engineering firm in my city for 8+ years of my life…the Reach is strong with this one…

  • http://batman-news.com Roderick2011

    LOL.
    Sure it is troll. The inspectors have liability and there are engineers on staff to make sure that the engineering work is accurate.

  • http://batman-news.com Roderick2011

    Maybe because 98% of the world is run by white men?

  • Tyrone Jenkems

    It is a scientific fact that men are better scientists and engineers than women.
    A bridge named “A Bridge to a Globalist Future” – designed and led by an all women team that collapses and kills innocents is a perfect symbolic picture of the real life events happening around us.

    The future is bent on destruction.

  • SpillyNillie

    I was just about to say that I highly doubt that this project was led and worked by an ALL female team.

  • SingleGalCrazyWorld

    For real…who let the trolls in so early…

  • http://batman-news.com Roderick2011

    Marco Rubio has a vagina?

  • SpillyNillie

    Are you a scientist or engineer?

  • Fred234

    Considering that 2’s are a male/female binary with obvious racial exclusion while the number 5 shows no such binary and an obvious diversity of racialized numbers then any good socially aware engineer would instantly realize that it is impossible for 2+2=5. You need to rethink your approach to math.

  • SingleGalCrazyWorld

    No its a troll from a land far far away….I think they disintegrate if you pour salt on them….

  • http://batman-news.com Roderick2011

    We don’t even know the cause of the failure but you’re CERTAIN that it was the female engineers?

  • Tyrone Jenkems

    Obviously not.

    Sorry – but this bridge is a small microcosm example of what is going on in this world.
    I wonder exactly WHY there was an “all women” team? Isn’t that sexist? Why no men?
    The Women involved need to shoulder the blame for this.
    This entire project – from the Obama funding, the Globalist name of the bridge and the All Women team – is a snapshot of our failed future as a collective.
    Pushing people into careers and positions they have no business being in causes disasters like this.

  • SpillyNillie

    *grabs sea salt* it’s been scientifically proven to be more potent than table salt…

  • Tyrone Jenkems

    Trolls?
    What trolls?
    Pointing out that the design team was ‘All Women’ and it collapsed and killed innocent people is not trolling, it is pointing out facts and the fact that women are better at making sandwiches than they are bridges.

  • Tyrone Jenkems

    Yes, in fact I am.

  • Super_Bowl_Dave

    Brutal setback for Feminism. Sad that people had to die for “diversity” and to promote these unqualified idiots into a position that put lives at risk.

  • http://batman-news.com Roderick2011

    Inspectors have engineers on staff too, idiot.
    They have to double check the calculations because since they have to sign off they have legal liability too.

  • Tyrone Jenkems

    Engineers are responsible for the structural integrity of the system.
    If it wasn’t the engineers fault, whose was it?

  • Tyrone Jenkems

    HAHAHHA!!
    Sorry feminazi – I am a male engineer who has performed engineering on structures in 4 continents and 10 countries.
    I know what I am talking about because I see it every day.
    The Agenda to push women into places they don’t belong is going to cause more deaths of innocent people.
    Engineering is not flower arranging.
    It is a serious business.

  • http://batman-news.com Roderick2011

    The people who actually put the bridge together?
    The people who poured the concrete?
    The concrete mix could have been wrong.
    Maybe they didn’t allow enough time for settling?

    There was a crack on the north end of the foundation that was reported to the state, but no one did anything about it.
    You’re an idiot so please stop tying because you show your ignorance with every keystroke.

  • SpillyNillie

    Scientist or engineer?

  • http://batman-news.com Roderick2011

    They should have stopped traffic while they were moving the bridge, but I guess that is the engineer’s fault too.

  • http://batman-news.com Roderick2011

    Maybe they should have stopped traffic while they were moving the bridge?

  • Tyrone Jenkems

    Engineers are responsible.
    If there was a crack that was detrimental to the structure than the bridge should have been immediately closed and the underneath gated off to prevent anyone from going under.
    What are your credentials in this matter?
    Yes, the concrete mix could have been off.
    There are sufficient safety factors in design to account for variability in materials.
    If the design was sound, an acceptable amount of variability would not cause catastrophic failure.
    The design was flawed.

  • Tyrone Jenkems

    Yes.
    Now you are learning.
    The Engineers number 1 responsibility is public safety.

  • Super_Bowl_Dave

    Even a layperson can see the bridge looks shoddy in design — a big slab of heavy concrete and no support at all, across a 100 foot span. I’m baffled how it stayed up as long as it did.

  • Tyrone Jenkems

    Both you tard.
    An engineer IS a scientist.

    wow.
    The masses are retarded.

  • shun king

    i hope you know it is plenty of IQ test and intelligence test that states white are smarter than black and Asians are smarter than whites so are you getting my drift now..just that alone can be used to put a race above another and we cannot have that

  • Tyrone Jenkems

    Yes, they should have.

  • SpillyNillie

    And you’ve proven my point dumb ass! Log off!

  • http://batman-news.com Roderick2011

    The engineer who left the message was a guy so I guess he wasn’t part of the team./s

    I am a chemical engineer by degree and I hated mechanics of material.

    But you’re correct that the road should have been closed.

    I find it odd that the guy from the NTSB stated emphatically that the crack wasn’t part of the bridge failure.

  • Tyrone Jenkems

    This collapse is a symbolic picture of the collapse of a ‘Globalist Future’ that will be ‘lead by women’ to come.
    I can’t think of a better example.

  • Roxie Moxie

    So…whose fault is it for the world being f*cked up? Last I checked, men have been in office since inception and look where that has got us! Let’s not point fingers here folks. We could do this all damn day.

  • SpillyNillie

    Stop wasting your energy and intellect on this clown…

  • Tyrone Jenkems

    what was your point again?

  • SpillyNillie

    Two separate studies, two separate schools of thought, two separate degrees. Engineering is not a Science. So which degree do you have? What firm do you work for and what degrees, certifications, and/or licenses do you hold in each area?

  • angrywhiteman

    AFFIRMATIVE ACTIONS -KILLS! NO DOUBTS ABOUT THAT!

    WHAT ABOUT DIVERSITY?

    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/263a57aa2e34d0c412adea79f4778ff0d6425859e6a0fd1f485b2c0c3310312f.jpg

  • Tyrone Jenkems

    Germany is in a shambles with Merkel in charge.

  • SpillyNillie

    Ouuuuu Sandra! I’ve never been so ready for a New Post in my entire blog life!

  • Athena Cook Thompson

    lol… It is called Engineering Science.

  • SingleGalCrazyWorld

    What kind of engineer are you????Please let me know and what company do you work for??? If you are really an engineer you would be doing specs, field work or running plans right now. When did you get your P.E.??? How long does it take for a person to get their P.E. license? How many times can you retake the P.E. if you fail? What steps do you have to take in order to become PM??? Again what type of engineer are you? Aviation, Structural, T&RS, Civil, Mechanical, Environmental???? Your a troll whose at your computer with lotion and a roll of tissue…please dont ever come for me or what I used to do…oh and by the way I was better in Math then most of the men I graduated with in my behavioral statistics class…

  • Roxie Moxie

    Ok. Lucky you! You found an exception! I’m speaking of THIS sh*tty country and others ran by men.

    So, this breaks ALL logic that people are trying to prove here. There are some who are good in their profession and some who aren’t! So, why are we all still arguing this point?

    The horse is dead already. But I’ll let you tell it. I’m not the kind of person to keep saying the same sh*t over and over again. I’ll wait for a new post. :-)

  • pelermon

    Inspectors WORK FOR THE ENGINEERS –

  • Nathan B

    Yes women can be good engineers, but not in this case. Anyways…. ask yourself, why are you women still supporting vain bubbleheads like the Kardashians ? and Hollywood celebrities? You do know that many of them, like Jennifer lawrence are high school drop outs? Encourage your daughters theres more to life than clothes and make up and maybe they will become better engineers than this bunch.

  • http://batman-news.com Roderick2011

    They have their own ethics and liability troll.
    They are going to be investigated separately and if found liable will be sued separately.
    Just go away.

  • KillerClownfromOuterspace

    I doubt this is true as MCM was the builder, not the designer.

    Tightening the cables in this case likely refers to pretensioning the concrete spans, not the cable stays which need the tower to be installed.

    Concrete doesn’t do well in tension.

  • Nathan B

    The “build” part shouldnt bave been second, agreed. I dont care if my bridge is pretty or not when I walk across it, I want it to not disintegrate on me !

  • http://www.dethjunkie.com/ Entropy

    You’re an idiot.

  • angrywhiteman

    DID YOU READ THE ARTICLE?

    The all-women engineering team that designed the ill-fated pedestrian foot bridge at Miami’s Florida International University were highly touted for their advances in a field that is typically dominated by men.
    But critics are pointing the finger of blame at the female engineers for design flaws that may have brought the bridge down.
    Investigators are still on the scene of last week’s bridge collapse that killed 6 people and injured 9 on the FIU campus in Southwest Miami.

    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/5dcbf2f5bd0407c37040655acf5dd7acb0a62aeb3044bb563ad78102cde0dcf3.jpg

  • http://www.dethjunkie.com/ Entropy

    Germany is not in shambles. Stop spreading lies.

  • http://www.dethjunkie.com/ Entropy

    You need to head on back to daily stormer where you belong.

  • Tyrone Jenkems

    Ask the women who are getting raped by the muslim hordes.

  • Tyrone Jenkems

    I have a Bachelor of Science in Structural Engineering.
    What’s yours? Basket Weaving?

    Go shove your head up your ass and inhale.

  • http://www.dethjunkie.com/ Entropy

    I figured that’s what you were aiming at. lol daily stormer or glp?

  • Tyrone Jenkems

    A project manager in most cases is NOT an engineer.
    I work for a small specialized engineering firm, of which I am the owner.
    My work is very specialized and I am considered one of the top engineers in my field.
    I am a professional structural engineer. Graduated in 1992.
    I am familiar with building codes in Canada, USA, Europe and Britain.

    “behavioral statistics” hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahhahahahahahahahahahahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    You are a joke.

  • Super_Bowl_Dave

    Cultural Marxism has succeeded in neutering most men, who are now Soy Boys who identify with Feminism.

  • Fred234

    Whites are 8% of the world population. We integrate, the rest do not. Do your children a favor – READ.

  • Super_Bowl_Dave

    Cultural Marxism has succeeded in neutering most men, who are now Soy Boys who identify with Feminism. This is why we see “men in charge” allowing this kind of thing to happen.

  • angrywhiteman
  • NeverSurprised

    You said the WORLD, not THIS country. Women have ruled the world’s most powerful nations for CENTURIES.

    During England’s most powerful years when they colonized black and brown people around the globe, it was under the rule of Queen Victoria (1819-1901).

    Women rulers date back to BC, including Hatshepsut and Nefertiti of Egypt; Queen Amina of Nigeria, Queen Nzinga of Nigeria; the last monarch of Hawaii, Liliuokalari; Eleanor of Aquitaine who was queen of BOTH England and France; Catherine the Great of Russia, Queen Isabella of Spain, Mary Queen of Scots, the list goes on and on.

    The difference is that those female rulers didn’t try to build edifices themselves. They ordered MEN to do it.

  • angrywhiteman

    CORRECT

  • angrywhiteman

    CULTURAL MARXISM HAS BEEN DUBBED “THE GREATEST CANCER IN THE WESTERN WORLD” BUT FEW EVEN KNOW WHAT IT IS.
    http://destoryculturalmarxism.blogspot.com/

    Cultural Marxism: An offshoot of Marxism that gave birth to political correctness, multiculturalism and “anti-racism.”

    Unlike traditional Marxism that focuses on economics, Cultural Marxism focuses on culture and maintains that all human behavior is a result of culture (not heredity / race) and thus malleable. Cultural Marxists absurdly deny the biological reality of gender and race and argue that gender and race are “social constructs”. Nonetheless, Cultural Marxists support the race-based identity politics of non-whites. Cultural Marxists typically support race-based affirmative action, the proposition state (as opposed to a nation rooted in common ancestry), elevating non-Western religions above Western religions, speech codes and censorship, multiculturalism, diversity training, anti-Western education curricula, maladaptive sexual norms and anti-male feminism, the dispossession of white people, and mass Third World immigration into Western countries. Cultural Marxists have promoted idea that white people, instead of birthing white babies, should interracially marry or adopt non-white children. Samuel P. Huntington maintained that Cultural Marxism is an anti-white ideology. Critics of Cultural Marxism have maintained that Cultural Marxists intend to commit genocide against white people through mass non-white immigration, assimilation, transracial adoption and miscegenation.

    “The very essence of Cultural Marxism is the support of mass immigration / open borders.”
    “The end goal of Cultural Marxists is white genocide.”
    “Political correctness is Cultural Marxism.”
    “Cultural Marxists have taken over the institutions of the media, education, mainstream Christianity (conservative and liberal), law, and finance. Their goal is the annihilation of Western Civilization in general and white people in particular.”

    ALSO GO TRUMP GO

    For once, the powerful socialist cabal and the corrupt crony capitalists are scared. I’ve never seen them this outraged… this vicious… this motivated… this coordinated. NEVER in all my years in politics, have I seen anything like the way the mad dogs of hell have been unleashed on Donald Trump.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n1VbpKnzpYs

    ……..
    THE ORIGINS OF POLITICAL CORRECTNESS
    http://www.academia.org/the-origins-of-political-correctness/
    February 5, 2000, Bill Lind, An Accuracy in Academia Address by Bill Lind

    …………………

  • Tyrone Jenkems

    Realist.

  • Fred234

    Generalizations and stereotyping are valuable tools when evaluating someone or some group. When you apply these tools you will be able to quickly note the out of character components. Stop being so stupid and use your brain.

  • SpillyNillie

    I have a Master’s in Hospital Administration and your ass couldn’t come work in any of my labs if you wanted to because you’re not a Scientist. Which was my initial question your dirty ass wipe.

    Now have a Blessed Day!

  • http://www.dethjunkie.com/ Entropy

    So both.

  • http://www.dethjunkie.com/ Entropy

    LMAO LMAO LMAO That’s a very high claim you have there Fred. Snowflakes like you always crying amuse me.

  • http://batman-news.com Roderick2011

    Stereotyping and generalizing are used by ignorant people like you who don’t want to remain dumb and unlearned.

  • http://www.witsnews.com witsnewsdotcom

    Stunning lack of professional oversight on the construction of this project. Who was watching the watchers? Apparently no one.

  • angrywhiteman

    OBAMA WAS WATCHING

    Right at the end of the Obama admin in 2016 the company that built the collapsed bridge was awarded a $66mil project at Guantanamo. “Cuban exile family’s firm wins $66M contract to build Guantánamo base school”

    by IWB · March 16, 2018

    http://investmentwatchblog.com/right-at-the-end-of-the-obama-admin-in-2016-the-company-that-built-the-collapsed-bridge-was-awarded-a-66mil-project-at-guantanimo/ https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/8cf602daf61235e0e991fb3f03e58520115addc10303c8f6d1f072a269e7ec7e.jpg

  • http://petgazette-pets.com OleHippieChick

    Refuting the math canard.
    The gender gap in mathematics has also changed. The number of math
    and science courses taken by female high school students has increased
    and now the mean and standard deviation in performance on math test scores are only slightly larger for males than for females.
    https://web.stanford.edu/~niederle/NV.JEP.pdf

  • Nathan Hastings

    Duh

  • Tyrone Jenkems

    So you know nothing about engineering and the structural sciences – this we already concluded.
    Why are you arguing me then?

  • Tyrone Jenkems

    It’s called “The Dumbing Down of Society”.

    If we lower the standards enough, even monkeys can be ‘mathematicians’ and engineers.

  • Rayne

    Man oh man!!

  • Tyrone Jenkems

    “Engineering is not a science”
    Quote by a retard who knows nothing.

  • angrywhiteman
  • Y’all Jealous Cuz I’m Prudy

    I can tell from your response, you’re one of those blacks that we’re talking about. They dusted you off and let you out to comment huh. Now you feel like one of them I bet.

  • http://batman-news.com Roderick2011

    You mean whites rape, rob and pillage.

  • Tyrone Jenkems

    And this bridge collapse is just the beginning.
    The entire world is going to collapse because of political correctness and liberal bull shit.

  • http://batman-news.com Roderick2011

    That wasn’t the final design, troll.
    Someone forgot to add the supports which is why it collapsed.

  • Tyrone Jenkems

    supports are important on a bridge.

  • Sonny Phillips

    Pride goeth before destruction, and an haughty spirit before a fall.

  • Y’all Jealous Cuz I’m Prudy

    I bet not one black worked in their corporate office or in any high ranking position. Usually if they do hire blacks in high positions, they place them in the HR department, so they can do the firing of other blacks. That way, it will never look like race is the issue. I’ve worked around them and they can be worse than whites. Very racist and they really think they’re better than blacks, until a white person gets mad at them and tell them what they really think of them. Reality check.

  • Waya Hedia

    You’re somewhat delusional.

  • Y’all Jealous Cuz I’m Prudy

    No, I’m right and you know it. Denial is your strong point. It’s ok to admit that they make you feel important when they finally need a face/race to hide behind. I bet you buck dance well, don’t you?

  • Agent Smith

    Unbelievable.

  • http://www.dethjunkie.com/ Entropy

    I wonder what detroit would look like if corporations didn’t destroy our manufacturing spine. Nothing to do with diversity there you idiot.

  • Waya Hedia

    Right about what? Lemme guess.. you think I am black because I occasionally come here to read Sandra’s articles and have a laugh at how brilliant the posts are? And then.. you have some incomplete concept of how I represent engineering firms or some shit?

    Carrying on with your delusion isn’t really that smart. Did you graduate high school?

  • Waya Hedia

    So, we should ignore capability and have more poorly designed bridges , etc. ?

  • shun king

    sometime equality is a bitter pill

  • Ecclesiastes 10:2

    Doesn’t surprise me one bit. Exercise judgment in the professionals you hire and never let political correctness play a part in your decision. I’m older and have seen this happen too many times.

  • KillerClownfromOuterspace

    I did read it, I just think it’s highly unlikely that it was all female engineers and the fact is that FIGG designed it, not MCM.

    Best guess is the bottom span is tensioned concrete. They were re-tensioning it when the bridge failed/likely removed compression off the concrete. This may have been worker failure except the bridge should have been designed better if it was going to be put over peoples heads.

  • Waya Hedia

    NO, it NEVER is when you’re intention is to build something. Never. Especially when people’s lives depend on it. That’s just a load of shit. You and I having the same job isn’t equality if you still do your job better than I can. It means I am in the wrong job.

  • shun king

    do you believe in affirmative action?

  • Waya Hedia

    It is one of the worst things ever conceived. I believe in the concept MLK laid out. I do NOT believe in taking opportunity away from capable people in order to give it to those less capable because of their skin color, gender or any other reason.

  • SingleGalCrazyWorld

    Ok Im only gonna go at you one mo’ time….the firm I worked for was responsible for the build out of my city airport as well as other projects since 1906. Since your firm is so small then your PM’s have to have a P.E….. smaller firms always do because they have to merge positions due to the lack of projects or underwhelming bids with no takers… Second…the P.E. would need 5 years experience working in a region to be eligible for a PE in any country…So Im supposed to believe you’ve had 20 years (5 years each term) of minimal grunt work since you are so worldly traveling about getting PE’s (liar)… Second building codes are inspection not engineering so imma conclude you are at Troll status…your a liar kinda pathetic and need attention that Im not gonna give you…take that over to MTO…

  • Mrs. S. Kidd

    In this case, they found the most qualified for that area. Miami’s standards are different from the rest of the country. They ran out all the decent and educated Black and white people long ago.

  • Mrs. S. Kidd

    I doubt *any* Black people were involved or hired for this mess. Companies in Miami get by with Hispanics *only* & claiming that is “diversity”. If you do see a Black person, it’s usually an Afro-Latino/a.

  • Y’all Jealous Cuz I’m Prudy

    One of the people who was kïlled was a black construction worker.

  • Mrs. S. Kidd

    The Cubans in Miami won’t be affected by this. Not one bit. They own that city and they have more power there than American whites. It is what it is there.

  • Mrs. S. Kidd

    In Miami, the power dynamics are different. White people are too scared of them to talk greasy.

  • Tyrone Jenkems

    wow.
    Your ignorance is at Retard Factor 99.

    Project Managers (PM’s) do NOT have to be engineers. There is no law or building code that says they have to be.
    PM’s typically “manage projects” – meaning they order bolts or materials for the guys on site doing the installation along with other duties but they typically are NOT engineers.
    Please provide a law or code reference that supports your limited ignorant viewpoint.
    And Yes, I have over 20 years experience doing engineering on all kinds of structures all over the world.
    Building Codes are NOT for inspection only- although they are used to guide inspection – they are design guides to help engineers determine loads and design stresses for engineering design.
    The ASCE7 for example is a building code that guides engineers to properly calculate design wind, snow and seismic loads for example. Has nothing to do with inspection.
    I don’t need to justify my experience with such an obvious retard.

  • Mrs. S. Kidd

    What ethnicity was he? Black construction worker can be anything from Tyrone Jenkins (Black American) to Juan Pedro Hernandez (Dominican, Cuban, Colombian, etc) to Pierre Jean-Francois (Haitian) to William B. James (Jamaican), etc, etc. I’m from South Florida and “black” usually means something other than Black American.

  • angrywhiteman

    WELL…there is no need to be defensive …I am just stating the facts

    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/fc3449b0d68a2dee10de06a541b1dc653efdc6925a56ad3d894d4bbf20550247.jpg

  • http://sandrarose.com SandraRose

    They did stop traffic from 1 a.m. to just after 6 a.m. while the bridge was moved into place.

  • angrywhiteman

    MCM just… partnered.. with the FIGG Bridge Group, a Tallahassee-Based engineering firm, …to move….the massive foot bridge into place over 8th Street in just 7 hours on Saturday, March 10.

    THE DESIGN WAS BY ALL MINORITIES TEAM MCM/FIU …

  • http://sandrarose.com SandraRose

    I think everyone was bamboozled by the MCM firm’s misleading marketing that gave the impression that their female
    engineers worked on the bridge. That’s why they took their
    Twitter page down. Don’t blame me. Here are the pictures THEY used in
    their marketing for the bridge.

    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/1fc57a46303751d9afd783f6494ba7a1d05053060d590efc937203d2aea4d0ee.jpg

    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/c9140d92177d1d65fc61c3cff037b1d5fba882f824ff7d8d09469da8240730b2.jpg

  • http://www.dethjunkie.com/ Entropy

    1942 France nazi occupied france? LMAO

  • angrywhiteman
  • angrywhiteman
  • angrywhiteman

    NO WONDER OUR PRESIDENT SAID ” WE DO NOT NEED PEOPLE FROM SHITHOLE COUNTRIES”

    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/625361f9bd0de5b4cdc1ff1482ed81c1bd2d9ee35fd1f8cb05a30ebc945a0b50.png

  • Jonathan Burns

    How many women qualify for the Police, Fire & Rescue and military, only because standards are lowered?

  • angrywhiteman
  • TheOwley

    If all white men had been behind this, no one would have said anything. The minute it’s all women, all black, all gays, or other minority or non-white male grouping, then there is some academic or intellectual fail behind the project. I think that’s wrong. People need to quit taking the bait. Hire the best regardless of appearances or identity politics.

  • ZRoJoTheLezBeyond

    Well, I see a few racists new to the blog and are in here thick. I hope this blog doesn’t take the racist turn.

  • angrywhiteman
  • ZRoJoTheLezBeyond

    As the saying goes, “a hit dog will holler”. Do carry on though. And good day to you :)

  • Trace da Ace

    Studies all over the world have shown that boys and men are twice as good at math as girls and women. The gender disparity in mathematics scores explains why there are far fewer women engineers than men in the world.
    ********************************************************************************
    FOH!!!!!

  • bashi

    They all backing out now what if the bridge was strong for 50yrs they would all take credit for it. Brand it as “ All women” built bridge hmmm. Some conniving witches lol ?

  • bashi

    Exactly however you cannot say it out loud in this feminist movement taking over America

  • commentatus

    As a female who has designed nothing more complicated than a barn (although I have slept with an engineer for 26 years), I saw several potential problems within five minutes of viewing the bridge in its varying stages of construction.

    1) the tower and stays that were necessary to stabilize the structure were not yet in place (many news outlets were showing a computer generated image of the final construction instead of the uncompleted ‘bridge’ that actually collapsed…poor journalism).

    2) the element that was put in place had asymmetrical support structures (the diagonal beams you see along the walkway) along its length which were intended as connection points for the as yet unattached stays. These structures distributed stress unevenly along the length of the span.

    3) one leg of the supports on the cradle used to move the bridge segment into place was placed directly under the weakest point of the span (the point where the span eventually failed), and would have transferred an upward force, possibly resulting in structural fatigue and stress fractures as the span was moved down the road and into place on the night before the collapse.

    4) it looks as if inadequate rebarreinforcement was used in the bridge segment, particularly if the span was going to remain unstayed for ANY length of time, much less weeks or months.

    5) unfortunately, it looks as though politically ‘correct’ hiring practices took precedence over public safety.

    God bless the families of those who lost their lives needlessly in this fiasco…not that it will console them, but they should own this company after this is all over, and the officials who support these irresponsible contract granting practices should be fired or voted out.

  • KillerClownfromOuterspace

    No, FIGG is the bridge engineers. MCM was built what they designed.

    What is FIGG Bridge Engineers’ role in this project?

    FIGG Bridge Engineers, Inc. is the designer of the bridge, working for MCM. The project is part of a $19.4 million U.S. Department of Transportation TIGER grant, and was bid competitively using design-build procurement by Florida International University.

    http://www.figgbridge.com/FIU_Statement.html

  • angrywhiteman

    I AM PROUD TO BE WHITE: SAID A RACIST.

    GOOD DAY TO YOU TOO :)

  • http://somethingwaffle.com Hugh Jazz

    No, not really.

  • angrywhiteman

    CORRECT

  • angrywhiteman
  • Crazy tee

    What ever happened to going through opinion after opinion after opinion before designing this catastrophe….when you’re dealing with something of this magnitude it needs to be viewed by specialists eyes before approval….people who have been doing this for decades

  • angrywhiteman
  • angrywhiteman

    I CAN BET YOU THESE GIRLS CAN DESIGN NOT ONLY BRIDGES BUT ALSO NUCLEAR ROCKETS.

    WE NEED IMMIGRANTS FROM COUNTRIES LIKE RUSSIA NOT FROM SHITHOLES LIKE RWANDA.

    IQ IS GENETIC!

  • Peter Svan

    An all woman design team?
    A proper bridge requires some decent structural know how and common sense. Clearly none of which was applied here.

  • angrywhiteman

    AFFIRMATIVE ACTIONS AND DIVERSITY WAS APPLIED HERE. THAT’S ALL!

  • http://batman-news.com Roderick2011

    I meant after it was put in place.
    It should have been supported from underneath until after the suspension bands were in place.
    Oh well it’s too late now.

  • Rawr

    Diversity is good, easy to control people when everyone is the same. No need to blame. We’re equal. Bridge collapsed because it wasnt diversified or cultural enriched. We need bigger government to help us. States cannot manage on their own, we need more people coming into US border to help us out and vote for big government.

  • angrywhiteman

    HA HA HA HA HA HEAR HEAR… THE BRIDGE WAS NOT ENOUGH DIVERSIFIED. I AGREE 100%.

    PRESIDENT TRUMP WAS WRONG! WE DO NEED MORE PEOPLE FROM SHITHOLE COUNTRIES, SO THEY CAN PROPERLY ENRICH US.

    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/2fd024868f019489a530772fe011c5842ad9c32090fe72933d2b1e15bf9205fc.gif

  • jayhawkpride

    Is this Sandra Rose? This comment section reads like a totally different blog!!

  • Sallie Ann

    Any engineer would have put some sort of temporary pillar holding up the middle of the bridge until it was sufficiently able to hold it’s own…..duh!!! Most women don’t have enough brains to figure this out on their own. Plus you divert ALL traffic from a construction site that is not completed…..double duh!!!

  • Masdar

    Who ever signed off on this job should face a charge criminal negligence causing bodily harm for not insuring that the bridge had all the components installed as required to meet the engineering specifications.

  • Masdar

    Any engineer no mater what sex that was responsible for design and construction of this bridge should face criminal court proceedings. Incompetence comes many forms and dosn’t matter what colour or gender and everybody is accountable.

  • Daniel

    I blame the patriarchy for this tragic disaster. Men have been keeping women down and that’s why this bridge collapsed.

  • Daniel

    The fact that they deleted their twitter account tells the story of women since the dawn of time – taking credit for everything good, blaming patriarchy for everything bad.

  • richardwicks

    I’m an engineer in Silicon Valley so I want to point out there are many, extremely, capable women engineers, some of who were my boss at one point and clearly superior to me in my own field.

    Having said that, I’ve seen companies go under because they limit their selection pool to a demographic. It’s perfectly acceptable, for example, for a company to hire people only from Taiwan. In fact, I’ve seen exactly that example and worked for that company (contractor only, not allowed to go FTE!!) and of course it failed. They were drawing from 5% of the talent pool here, at best.

    I’m really curious if these engineers did a finite element simulation of the structure. This shouldn’t be able to happen in this day and age – that’s what simulation is for. I’m entirely incompetent when it comes to being a STRUCTURAL engineer, but I damned well know how to use a program to point out where I may have f’ed up. There’s a reason we have tools to check out work – you always test.

    Because of a lack of simple review of the design, there goes 10 million bucks, and probably the company’s reputation and therefore it’s ongoing ability to make money. This is a monumental mistake. It’s got national attention, the firm is going to have to change names at the minimum to survive – unless it’s on the bankroll of the government. Government doesn’t care about wasting money, getting people killed, or having competent employees.

  • ukalally

    you are an estrogen laden liar

  • richardwicks

    you are an estrogen laden liar

    Tell you what. I have a $100 note on me. Meet me at 6:30 pm at the Campbell Brewery and I can arrange for you to meet my old boss at Microsoft, if you’re a competent DV engineer. Beer is on me.

    Wouldn’t recommend the food there.

  • ukalally

    only way you would get $100 is to be a gay prostitute. after hanging around with you I have something she desperately needs

  • Marjorie Pryor-Spiller

    Well said with common sense!! Sadly lacking these days, it seems!!

  • Rezeya Montecore
  • Bill the eighth

    No, that would be the muzzies.

  • richardwicks

    only way you would get $100 is to be a gay prostitute. after hanging around with you I have something she desperately needs

    Well – I tried to treat you like an adult. I’ll just block you permanently so I never have to talk to you again.

  • Bill the eighth

    Can you not read?

    “After the collapse, MCM stated the cables were not scheduled to be installed on the bridge until 2019. The company did not explain what temporary supports were being used.”

  • ZioFascist

    diversity strikes again! bhwahah

  • Rick
  • Bill the eighth

    Hospital Administration? And you think you are a scientist?

  • Kimberly King

    “Studies all over the world have shown that boys and men are twice as good at math as girls and women. The gender disparity in mathematics scores explains why there are far fewer women engineers than men in the world.”

    Please! I double majored in Accounting and Math. I was originally an engineering major, but I couldn’t pass chemistry to save my life. I passed Physics I & II though. In my upper math courses, I was either the ONLY black person or the ONLY woman. I teach high school math (AP Calculus, Advance Algebra & Trig, & Pre-calculus). I am 1 of 2 women who teach math in my school. Mind you my school is large. The rest are men, and none of them wanted to teach the classes I teach. They all teach the easy classes like Algebra I and Geometry. I can run circles around those dick having idiots. They always come to me asking questions about how to teach certain parts of the material to kids.

  • TheOwley

    I agree. If an all white man crew had designed this thing and the collapse still happened, they should face the same accountability as if they were all black, women, etc. That this design team was all female is irrelevant.

  • paul9r9r

    Snopes says your claim that it was an all female engineering team, is false. https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/was-all-female-responsible-bridge-collapse/

  • http://batman-news.com Roderick2011

    I meant supports underneath the bridge not the supports from the tower.
    There’s a text from Marco Rubio that stated something about the supports being tightened.
    I have no idea which supports he is referring.

  • richardwicks

    I’m still trying to figure out if they did a finite element simulation on the structure and if they did, how did it fail?

    Either the engineering was truly at fault, or it was incorrectly installed when it was put up. Either way, the road underneath it should have certainly been closed before it was erected.

    I’ve heard they were doing structural testing on it when it was put in place (!) which is just nuts since it was constructed elsewhere. Testing should have been done before installation.

    Honestly, in this day and age, a 3rd grader with an imagination should be able to design a bridge if they had the proper software. It was a lot more difficult to design a structure like this 40 years ago than it is today. A lot of what engineers learn to do today, is design and use CAD software.

    Although we all go through all the math and models, we hardly need them at work. I’m trained as a VLSI (chip) designer but hardly anybody that works in the field needs to understand the characteristics of a MOSFET junction unless they are working the process engineering part, and those people don’t need to know digital logic. Still, it’s useful to know this sort of stuff when things go wrong.

    I think it’s premature to blame the engineers. I bet more likely it was miscommunication on installation or component failure, like something in the design was mis-rated for sheer or tensile strength.

  • pajamakat

    I for one envy you. No matter how hard I tried, I just couldn’t “get” math. That torpedoed any chance of what I really wanted to do, become a veterinarian. To this day, math just confuses me.

  • H.H.

    This bridge was overkill (pun intended!). Why build such a HEAVY massive bridge which was only going to be used by pedestrians?? The only numbers which add up to make sense, is that the bridge was designed to cost as much money as possible in order to fill the pockets of these contractors.

    A much lighter bridge made of mostly metals would have been the smart move. This story should be front page news for Women’s History month. After all it would have been a pretty bridge! These bitches will surely find a man to blame it on! LOL!!

  • H.H.

    You’re a genius! So apropos!!

  • Kimberly King

    Don’t give up. I actually didn’t like math until I got in college. My college algebra professor was the person who made me fall in love with math. We’re still in contact to this day. She was an old southern lady, super girly, but smart as a whip! I think that’s why we got along so much. I love girly, but SMART women. She was also my professor in Calc I & III. A lot of people don’t get math because the person who’s teaching it is trash. But then there are those few who just don’t get it. No matter how amazing the facilitator is. I switched my major from Engineering to Mathematics (because I had already had lots of math credits) and accounting because I was fascinated by how black and white accounting is. Very similar to math: There’s ALWAYS an answer/solution in math and accounting. Fits my personality lol

  • richardwicks

    If all white men had been behind this, no one would have said anything.

    Are you kidding me?

    Here, see how many bridge collapses you don’t remember being reported in the United States…

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_bridge_failures#2000%E2%80%93present

    This collapse made national news because a brand new bridge collapsed killing several people – it didn’t make national news because it was an all women crew (if it actually was..)

    If it didn’t kill anybody, I doubt anybody would have known about it – but only for that. Even if it was a fairly old bridge, it still would have made national news if anybody was killed.

    My sister is a Civil Engineer in New Hampshire. She and her husband have both done bridge inspection and have been on-site during construction. A bridge collapse is big news. It’s like when an airplane goes down – when something goes down, it’s an emergency. It means either there’s something that isn’t fundamentally understood, or there was negligence in inspection and even when nobody was injured, it’s high priority to find out what happened.

    Here I believe there’s negligence at some level – although I find it hard to believe it’s because of design. There’s a ton of CAD software that is designed specifically to prevent this. Everything is simulated before it’s built and we have very very good models after 30+ years of building simulators. If it wasn’t put through simulation and it was installed exactly as specified, that’s a serious error and only then would I blame the engineering team.

  • Required Field

    Yeah, um, I actually looked up the design team… I’m just going to leave this here.

    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/e799f9ccf0bebd6c68913200cc83d069bb44a87e259639d91167c39568b9d9db.png

  • richardwicks

    Both you tard.
    An engineer IS a scientist.

    *I* am an engineer. Very few engineers are qualified to be scientists. I’m not.

    The job of a scientist is to do fundamental research in a lab. This is the requirement to get a REAL PhD. This isn’t easy to do in this day and age.

    Some engineers do original research, but it’s not too common. Just because you published a paper doesn’t qualify as a scientist. We implement work done by scientists, few engineers contribute to original fundamental science.

  • MallardTDrake

    Exactly. FIGG designed the bridge. MCM built the bridge. According to FIGG’s web site:
    “What is FIGG Bridge Engineers’ role in this project?
    FIGG Bridge Engineers, Inc. is the designer of the bridge, working for MCM.”

    MCM may be filled with female engineers, but they did not design the bridge. MCM is not off the hook by any means. It is likely that this was a construction error, and they are going to take the brunt of the blame and damage awards. That’s usually what happens in cases like this.

  • richardwicks

    I concur. Bridge design, from what (little) I know about it, is one of the more advanced projects to come from Civil Engineering. Seems unlikely that they would worry about doing a PC stunt on something so important.

    My bet is that the installation or construction was botched. There hasn’t been enough time to determine the exact cause of failure and I expect by the time that comes out, the public will have forgotten about this particular disaster.

  • Simon Aj

    Snopes is run by a husband and wife, what makes you think any of what they say is correct? Anyone can start a fact site and propagandize it so much that many people believe it is the final word on a matter.

  • richardwicks

    You’re an idiot.

    https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/was-all-female-responsible-bridge-collapse/

    I’m going to demonstrate something about Snopes, which used to be a fairly reliable site, a decade ago.

    Here is what it says:

    Claim: Munilla Construction Management, the construction firm that built the bridge at Florida International University that collapsed in March 2018, is an all-female company.

    That’s not the claim that is being made.

    The claim that is being made is:

    All-Women Engineering Team Blamed for Collapse of Miami Pedestrian Bridge

    Snopes does this ALL THE TIME now. It stawmans a claim, then determines it’s false. It does this with many articles and claims.

    Notice there’s no way to comment on Snopes to correct them.

    Snopes built a good reputation for itself back in the 2000’s as it counter-acted a lot of propaganda of the criminal Bush administration – but it’s clearly partisan garbage today.

  • richardwicks

    This was externally linked from, what I think was, http://www.whatreallyhappened.com – and probably several other sites.

    The site I’ve listed is interesting to read, but I take everything I read there with a grain of salt, and find out later if what it’s written is correct or false. I’m fully capable of doing the research later, but it gives me a starting point of where to look for answers, if I really want them.

  • james ha

    “””Studies all over the world have shown that boys and men are twice as good at math as girls and women””
    hilarious. i’m a man and i suck at math; i am a musician/instructor. my wife on the other hand, is a genius calculus instructor at the college level.

  • TheOwley

    No. I’m not kidding. Please read my comment in relation to the article. If an all white man crew was behind this collapse, no one would have said:

    ………………..”It happened because it was an all white man crew.”…………….

    So why point out it was an all female design team. What if it had been an all black design team. The implication is that you can’t trust an all black team / group / company to build a bridge. My point is that you get the best people for an xyz project and don’t get hunge up on it being an “all this or that” team.

  • richardwicks

    No. I’m not kidding. Please read my comment in relation to the article. If an all white man crew was behind this collapse, no one would have said:

    ………………..”It happened because it was an all white man crew.”…………….

    Well, I agree with that. I’d be surprised if you could find an all white man crew anyhow now-a-days. In a large company, it would be likely inspected for racial/sexual discrimination if that happened.

    I’ve worked for several large companies, and there are very real quota systems to ensure there are women and “under-represented minorities” hired. This is to their detriment because really competent people are often sidelined since it’s assumed they only got their job because of a quota, or indeed they did get their job only because of a quota.

    I worked for a jerk that said he’d just hire the first women he interviewed because “it didn’t matter” – which means he was perfectly happy to put any person on my team and didn’t give a crap about trying to find at least the most competent woman. What an a*hole he was. I didn’t stay long after he stupidly told me that.

    Anyhow:

    So why point out it was an all female design team. What if it had beenan all black design team. The implication is that you can’t trust an all black team / group / company to build a bridge.

    The implication is that the team wasn’t hired based on merit and competence, but based on genitals and skin color – excluding superior people, leading to making a team that is less than optimal which could be the cause of this disaster.

    And that’s exactly how you end up with an all woman team, or an all black team, or today, an all white heterosexual male team. It’s POSSIBLE it’s a coincidence, and I really don’t want to go through the statistics to figure out the probability, but it’s probably not a coincidence that an all female team was created – if indeed it was…

    My point is that you get the best people for an xyz project and don’t get hung up on it being an “all this or that” team.

    I agree completely.

    In engineering, the truth is though, that it’s mostly male. Why you can speculate, but I can tell you from my classes – most of the class was male. Wasn’t white though. I’m an ECE, I think there are more women in civil and mechanical engineering. We all matriculated after 2nd year, and frankly, I was too busy studying to really know what went on in the other disciplines.

    I’ve never worked on an all white male team – well, maybe I sort of did right out of college, but that was 3 people in Buffalo NY. Qualified employers are blind to all this PC BS – they can’t AFFORD to be “pro-active” about “diversity”.

  • Kimberly King

    I teach Calc I at night at College. This will be my last year teaching high school math. Starting August I’ll be teaching full time at college level. I’m excited.

  • james doss

    Snopes is a totally discredited SJW propaganda site as Simon pointed out

  • paul9r9r

    What you just said is meaningless and ineffectual as a defense of this bloggers convenient claim (that I would love to be true by the way), Snopes has proven to be extremely useful over the years and very effective at debunking falsehoods. Rebut their article dealing with this claim if you can, perhaps this blogger will deal with Snopes determination of her truthfulness.

  • keller23

    If a girl can have a penis, why can’t 1+1=3? Anything goes in SJW STEM Studies.

  • keller23

    And Russian chicks are teh hawt!!

  • keller23

    If white men had been behind it, the bridge would be standing.

  • keller23

    SHITHOLISTAN

  • angrywhiteman

    Fact-Checking
    Snopes: Website’s Political ‘Fact-Checker’ Is Just A Failed Liberal Blogger
    http://dailycaller.com/2016/06/17/fact-checking-snopes-websites-political-fact-checker-is-just-a-failed-liberal-blogger/

    ‘Fact checking’ website Snopes on verge of
    collapse after founder is accused of fraud, lies, and putting prostitutes and
    his honeymoon on expenses (and it hasn’t told its readers THOSE facts)

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4730092/Snopes-brink-founder-accused-fraud-lying.html#ixzz57uLuO2xK

  • angrywhiteman

    Fact-Checking
    Snopes: Website’s Political ‘Fact-Checker’ Is Just A Failed Liberal Blogger
    http://dailycaller.com/2016/06/17/fact-checking-snopes-websites-political-fact-checker-is-just-a-failed-liberal-blogger/
    …………………………………….
    ‘Fact checking’ website Snopes on verge of
    collapse after founder is accused of fraud, lies, and putting prostitutes and
    his honeymoon on expenses (and it hasn’t told its readers THOSE facts)

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4730092/Snopes-brink-founder-accused-fraud-lying.html#ixzz57uLuO2xK

  • paul9r9r

    That would be nice from my conservative perspective, but unfortunately, Snopes remains a great source for debunking the obvious and so far this blogger’s claim seems debunked unless you can dig up something better.

  • paul9r9r

    That is nonsense and dishonest, Snopes has not been totally discredited.

  • angrywhiteman

    WHEN YOU DIG INTO THE BACKGROUNDS OF THESE MINORITY MORONS, ALL OF THEM ARE ANTI-WHITE

    MCM hailed Flores and her all-women design team in celebratory social media posts on Twitter.com in the hours before the deadly collapse.

    But critics say simple mathematics would have prevented the disaster in Miami.’

    ha ha ha ha https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/547368ac37e290a86531aef27327a08ec0547f5ecfc72193ab55197abfd8656c.jpg

  • angrywhiteman

    THE MORONS SHOULD DEBUNK THEMSELVES

  • Le Ruse

    Well, Anti-White male diversity bull dykes ??
    America is becoming a shit hole, like Haiti.. Just about 10 to 20 years to be like Haiti ??

  • anonymous4u4me

    Perhaps they were all ovulating at the same time and we should just except it as collateral damage and let them move on. I mean hey its the white male that is pure evil to most so better they stay then allow these evil white males to show them how its done. How that for politically correct?

  • Niel Brenn

    Very true.
    You are only as good as your teacher, for most people it’s true.

    If you cannot learn (and you are honestly trying, putting hours in) you have a bad teacher who is not helping you. Once someone shows you how to do it, it’s not hard.

  • Niel Brenn

    Agreed
    Doesn’t Facebook own it?

    Lol, Facebook exec just quit over partisan censorship. Snopes is more like Snipes (at conservatives) now.

  • Niel Brenn

    Do not ever put your real self up for grabs to trolls on the internet bud.

    BAD idea.

  • Niel Brenn

    Lol, well the libs really do believe this crap.

  • Niel Brenn

    Can’t wait to see the bridge they build.

  • Niel Brenn

    Chicago is for black people.
    You didn’t know that?

  • Niel Brenn

    He’s right though.

  • Niel Brenn

    Because it is rare.
    There are basically zero all women design teams.

    What is news is anything odd.

  • L Garou

    Gosh, look what the French did!
    Piece of cake!

  • richardwicks

    Do not ever put your real self up for grabs to trolls on the internet bud.

    BAD idea.

    Haha – first you’re making an assumption.

    Second – I know these systems are coming down anyhow. In 5-10 years, all “social networking” will be considered nothing more than intelligence gathering systems, which is what they are. What this is.

    I have a tendency to over-estimate the intelligence and suspicion of the population but in this case, I think it’s going to go paranoid and you’re going to witness a huge backlash. I expect all the Internet giants in Silicon Valley are going to see a drastic reversal in their fortunes.

    Getting people to be dependent on a single service on the Internet, is like trying to herd cats, or getting atheists to agree on anything other than their stance on religion. Sites grew because they were “easy”, now they will shrink because they are “invasive”.

    I mostly write on this particular platform to get ideas of what to read and learn about and see just how much the pushed narrative is working. It isn’t doing that well today.

  • richardwicks

    Agreed

    Doesn’t Facebook own it?

    Little is known about Snopes. It’s widely suspected it’s connected with intelligence agencies. This sounds paranoid, but when you realize the CIA is just the mafia wrapped in the flag, it’s not so far-fetched.

    It’s was pushing an agenda – one I agreed with in the mid to late 2000’s because I’ve always considered the invasion of Iraq that beginning of the end of the United States – something that needed to be urgently rectified. It was the end of moral credibility of the United States and you need to have that unless you can lead exclusively with a stick, and nobody can for long.

    Now Snopes just pushes the Democratic party. The largest demographic voting bloc in the United States today is independent at 40% last I checked.

    Lol, Facebook exec just quit over partisan censorship. Snopes is more like Snipes (at conservatives) now.

    Doesn’t matter.

    Ever bought ANYTHING in your life because of banner ad or annoying commercial you saw on any website? I don’t think FB is funded with advertising revenue. Zuckerberg is moral toe gunk, he’s got no integrity. How do you think they came out of nowhere so quickly? They’re an intelligence gathering system and once people realize that, they’ll just abandon it, and be very suspicious about joining another.

  • David

    Go back to doing the wash by hand, riding a horse, stoking the fire, getting ice for the icebox. Men made your lives so much easier you had time to criticize us, for things you never could have done.

    Hard words but true.

  • David

    The concrete wasn’t supposed to hold the bridge up. That would only work in an arch design, where the concrete is in compression. Here only a very limited part of the strength was to come from concrete in compression.

  • David

    Regardless of what happened here, there is no doubt that politics could lead to diversity trumping competence in something as important as bridge design.

    This was a very “pedestrian” design project. The famous video of the failure of the Tacoma Narrows bridge, a vastly more difficult project, is from 80 years ago. To think we can’t do a pedestrian bridge today, somebody’s retarded or cutting margins way too thin.

  • David

    There’s a PE seal from the inspection firm? This I didn’t know, is it true?

  • Roxie Moxie

    Is this a joke?? *looking around for Punked cameras*

    *sigh*

    I don’t even have time. Part of me wants to respond and the other part of me says, “no, dont do that…..the joke is in his response”. ? I’ma just let this one ride. ?

    G’night!

  • David

    It’s not a joke. What you don’t have is arguments to refute what I said.

  • richardwicks

    Regardless of what happened here, there is no doubt that politics could lead to diversity trumping competence in something as important as bridge design.

    It’s possible – kind of doubt it. What I find more likely is a bunch of women took undue credit for the bridge (or the press did a puff SJW piece for women), and nobody really cared at the time – and now everybody thinks it was exclusively their fault because they were tooting their own horn.

    Now that something bad happened, I expect (if you bother to follow this story) it will turn out that there was not an all woman’s design team, that it may have been mostly women and they weren’t really an integral part.

    I can’t see an engineering firm placing politics over safety, now a SCHOOL I could see doing this – with the assumption that they would be sufficient oversight to negate any possible problems. Students are super cheap, i.e. free. When I was a student, I had a professor that would give us HIS design problems, for his company, as homework and projects. Heck, I was cheaper than free – I paid to take that course!

    This was a very “pedestrian” design project. The famous video of the failure of the Tacoma Narrows bridge, a vastly more difficult project, is from 80 years ago. To think we can’t do a pedestrian bridge today, somebody’s retarded or cutting margins way too thin.

    Oh, we’ve had more recent failures than that but not of a pedestrian bridge.

    My bet (note, I’M NOT a structural or civil engineer!) is that this is not an engineering design fault, but either installation, or manufacture. Wikipedia will record the fault when it’s known:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_bridge_failures#2000%E2%80%93present

    I have a hard time believing engineering design fault. There’s a lot of over-sight and there’s a ton of tools to check and recheck design before manufacture. Should be interesting to find out what the ultimate error was.

  • Kathy Sharp

    Snopes also says Al Gore’s claim that Arctic ice will totally melt by the summer of 2014 is “half-true”, even though it’s 2018 and Arctic ice definitely DID NOT COMPLETELY MELT in summers of 2014, 2015, 2017.
    I wager Snopes does not know what “false” is.

  • Kathy Sharp

    Women’s World Chess Championship is open only to women, but here’s an interesting tidbit: there is no “Men’s World Chess Championship”.

    The one where men play is just “World Chess Championship” and it has no restrictions on gender. Women can easily prove they are no less capable of abstract thinking by participating in it and scoring highly. So far they don’t do that.

  • richardwicks

    Haha – I don’t think I’d want to use the Millau Viaduct bridge – it’s a really interesting looking design, but having the cables in the center – kind of untested.

    I’m sure they’ve learned a lot since the Tacoma’s Narrow’s Bridge, but that just looks scary. Ah well, I’m certain they know what they are doing, and I know it’s constantly monitored and so far, everything measured is in line with finite element models.

    https://www.iabse.org/Images/Publications_PDF/SEI/SEI.Millau%20Viaduct.C.Servant.et.al.pdf

  • Xpaidriot

    Sorry folks. It is not women engineers who are more stupid than men engineers. I have worked with both and they are equally stupid primarily because of a lack of practical applied education in their chosen profession. I have watched them on many occasions build things that defy their own specifications. Additionally America gets an F or at the best a D- in mathematics education of their youth compared to other countries. I have just returned from Russia where I worked with both women and men engineers all of whom had advanced degrees, many of them in more than one discipline. Both sexes were quite competent. Russia had women engineers long before America ever even let any woman think to try and master a slide rule.

  • Roxie Moxie

    David, David, David. Please. I’ve “refuted” enough with other folks and have discussed this enough. Jesus Christ. I’m done! I can’t help if you just got put into the convo….I’m done.

    Here…..you wanna hear it?

    You’re right. Men are superior. Women aren’t. There. You got it. Good night, dear.

  • Kathy Sharp

    So you are saying lobsters… er… I meant… you are saying diversity and inclusion isn’t our strength?!? “Merit” is??? Why aren’t you still not in a suitable reeducation goolag?

  • Kathy Sharp

    Don’t forget toxic masculinity. Very problematic.

  • Kathy Sharp

    Yessir! Diversity and inclusion is every bridge’s strength! Soon in every eng. course in every Uni!

  • Kathy Sharp

    We don’t really know yet why it failed, so I won’t be having theories about that.

    But this is a _pedestrian_ bridge. Why is it so effing heavy and thick?

  • Joan Galt

    Hit a nerve, didn’t I, you affirmative action/MWOB airhead?

    They got the contract precisely becuase they were MWOB, not because they were the most qualified.

    So how would you feel about an engineering firm that was proudly hetersoexual male only?

    That would be byond the pale, would it not?

  • David

    We are superior as engineers. This will be apparent based on historical fact until we see some strong counterexamples.

    What’s annoying and wrong is that you blame men for f*ing up the world. We built the world and probably made some mistakes along the way. If you ignore the first part and focus on the second, that seems pretty dishonest.

  • angrywhiteman
  • richardwicks

    So you are saying lobsters… er… I meant… you are saying diversity and inclusion isn’t our strength?!? “Merit” is??? Why aren’t you still not in a suitable reeducation goolag?

    Because if (all) people like me were put in a goolag, the system would continue to run for about 6 months, tops.

  • AdjudicatedCrazy

    This was not externally linked. She may have gotten the source material from another site, but she definitely put her own spin (“men and boys are twice as good at math as women and girls!”) on it. That’s not substantiated, by the way. On average, boys do outperform girls on the math portion of the SAT by about 30 points, but that’s hardly evidence that they are “twice as good.” 30 points could amount to a few weeks of a semester of geometry. Also (obviously), a lower average score doesn’t preclude specific women from getting a high score. Finally, nothing prevents a woman from improving her mathematical acumen after she takes the SAT, which didn’t even include calculus at the time I took it.

    I also doubt the claim that “an all-female engineering claim [from MCM] designed the bridge.” As someone pointed out above, the design team came from Figg, not MCM. Based on the org chart, it looks like women weren’t in charge of the construction at MCM, either.

    Personally, I’m relishing the fact that Sandra Rose has drawn such a cohort of commenters onto her blog, and I hope they stick around for a while to give her the full Monty. When you lie down with mens’ rights dogs, you wake up with white supremacist fleas.

  • angrywhiteman
  • xiphos

    Lowest bidder?

  • anothercrawfish

    Build a house and skip installing the roof joists. Two things will happen: 1. It won’t pass inspection, and 2. The thing will collapse. This frigging bridge was missing all kind of support members and yet it must have passed inspection because they actually let cars pass under it. And it collapsed. But, as the article says, MCM is as politically connected as they come. And you bet you last dollar they’re all demoKKKraps. Crooked as Hillary and the Kenyan while caring just as little for the lives they cost.

  • anothercrawfish

    Lowest minority bidder.

  • AdjudicatedCrazy

    When someone says “Trait X is genetic,” it usually means he doesn’t know the first thing about genetics or molecular biology. Genes produce proteins. Except in the case of diseases like Huntington’s, we don’t know how particular brain proteins affect intelligence. (The Genome Wide Association Study, which purports to identify genetic differences that contribute to differences in intelligence, analyzes single nucleotide polymorphisms, rather than entire genes and the proteins they produce). G, or general intelligence, is about 70-80% heritable, as measured by the G correlations of monozygotic twins.

    G correlations between parent-child pairs are smaller.
    Still, if your parents both have double-digit IQs, no matter your race, you have a much higher probability of spending your entire day making emotionally charged posts in all capital letters, rather than doing anything useful.

  • AdjudicatedCrazy

    I love how Sandra Rose has suddenly become a world-renowned expert in mathematics and statistics.

  • TheOwley

    True, but in having a great all white team, why assume an all woman team is subpar. I’m all for diversity but whatever way you go, pick the absolute best.

  • Le Ruse

    Yes !! You are close to a shit hole country ??
    see….
    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DYVMkJkVQAAwCZg.jpg

  • AdjudicatedCrazy

    No, I wasn’t bamboozled. You jumped into this pile of steaming buffalo chips because you were ready to blame the women engineers. Now you’re blaming MCM’s marketing department for misleading you. Where do their marketing materials say they had an all-female engineering team on this particular bridge? Furthermore, what studies do you have that support your claim that “men and boys are twice as good at math as women and girls?”

    I think the answer lies in your approach to “journalism.” You threw a bunch of unsupported BS into an article after you visited a few conspiracy sites, and now you’re backpaddling. Normally, I wouldn’t wish schizotypal personalities like “angrywhiteguy” and “TyroneJenkems” on anyone, but you brought this on yourself. You are just about as dumb as a box of dull rocks.

  • angrywhiteman
  • AdjudicatedCrazy

    I don’t know where she got this “boys and men are twice as good” business. There’s only a 30 point average gender differential on the math portion of the SAT — 496 vs. 527 in 2016. Obviously, there are numerous girls who outperform the average boy’s score and numerous boys who underperform the average girl’s score. (Somehow, I can’t see “angrywhiteman” doing calculus, can you?)

    Sandra Rose has no demonstrable grasp of the concepts of mean and variance. In fact, the only thing it’s safe to conclude from this article is that Sandra Rose does not comprehend mathematics, statistics, or evidence.

  • Tom Lowe

    But that would prevent (((them))) from extending my 30 years of unemployment as an engineer with top qualifications and a perfect track record in the field.

    But no. We gotta have loser tokens manning the spots, don’t we?

    My old tomcat was recently killed by a dog owned by a woman like these engineers who apparently was letting it run free each night. Like those people who died under the Tokens’ Bridge of Death, I found that out too late.

    Brown Death.

  • angrywhiteman

    I BEG YOUR PARDON? SOME DATA FOR YA.

    World IQ Figures: A Complete Chart with Notes and Comments. Including
    Additional Material

    on high Jewish, Chinese and Indian IQs Sierra Leone
    64, Switzerland
    101

    Lasha
    Darkmoon January
    29, 2012

    https://www.darkmoon.me/2012/world-iq-figures-a-complete-chart-with-notes-and-comments/
    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/d89c689bde04920932bee9dc2e737530d2ac9bf39048fb4ef9d3a8af62f073e7.jpg

  • angrywhiteman

    World IQ Figures: A Complete Chart with Notes and Comments. Including
    Additional Material IQs Sierra Leone 64, Switzerland 101
    https://www.darkmoon.me/2012/world-iq-figures-a-complete-chart-with-notes-and-comments/ https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/d89c689bde04920932bee9dc2e737530d2ac9bf39048fb4ef9d3a8af62f073e7.jpg

  • Tom Lowe

    Southern engineering at its finest!

  • paul9r9r

    Another nonresponse that doesn’t challenge the fact checking on this blogger’s claim, the blogger’s claim doesn’t seem to hold much water.

  • Tom Lowe

    Anyone with half a brain knows that Snopes is a fake news phony propaganda organization staffed by direputable creeps.

    It is worthless.

  • angrywhiteman

    SO, THERE IS A REASON WHY SHITHOLE COUNTRIES ARE SHITHOLE COUNTRIES!

    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/523358dad5ea1da1bdb99bb45f621cd20764f55353116da83f5869150da269a2.png

  • Tom Lowe

    After 50+ years of Affirmative Action (two entire generations), I am still waiting to see a token do something that I am impressed with.

    So far, nothing. Holding their job is the best they can do.

  • Tom Lowe

    The bridge collapsed because it was white.

  • richardwicks

    True, but in having a great all white team, why assume an all woman team is subpar.

    Let’s say I have a jar full of marbles. They are each wrapped in foil, 800 are wrapped in green foil, and 200 in red foil.

    Each marble has a value of 1 to 10 – distributed completely fairly in both the green and red foiled marbles. A marble with a 1 on it is the lowest quality, and 10 is the highest quality. You can only find out the value by unwrapping the foil. You can replace a marble at any time with the foil that came with it.

    There are 1000 marbles in the jar and you can pick out as many as 100 of them. 10 people each take turns pulling out marbles, replacing as many as 1 marble at a time on each turn, but no more. If a player has 100 marbles, they can only draw a marble if they return a marble to the jar.

    You, however, will only pick red foiled marbles, unless there’s only green left, 3 other people only pick green foiled marbles unless there’s only red left, and the remaining 6 don’t care about the color of the foil and just pick out marbles randomly.

    1) Who is most likely to get the best set of marbles?

    2) Who is most likely to end up with neither the best nor worst set of marbles?

    3) Who is most likely to get the worst set of marbles?

    I’ll run a simulation if you ask and prove it beyond a shadow of a doubt. The colors are of course gender, and replacing marbles is replacing a hire with somebody else.

    Even if female engineers had the same exact distribution of quality as male engineers, and maybe they do, there’s less to pick from. Limiting yourself to a small pool puts you at a disadvantage.

  • Tom Lowe

    And the (((Russian Mafia))).

  • Tom Lowe

    “Well, I see a few racists new to the blog”

    And that would be you calling the kettle black.

  • Tom Lowe

    If they had not touted their Bridge of Death by Incompetence as their cherished racist victory over the omnipotent evil Whitey, then no one would be any the wiser, would they?

  • Tom Lowe

    The absolute best women engineers are already working for top multinational corporations or for themselves, not some third rate local mafia family public welfare contractor.

  • Tom Lowe

    ‘Dey workin’ it out, man!

  • Tom Lowe

    Daily Stormer is a false flag website clandestinely run by cultural marxists.

    You are still asleep.

  • Tom Lowe

    The general run of guys I know is just as swept up in Hollywood nonsense as the women.

    They all love Hollywood movies without ever stopping to think about anything.

  • Tom Lowe

    No, you are the idiot here. What he writes is perfectly correct.

  • Kimberly King

    AND?

  • Kathy Sharp

    You’re supposedly a brainiac here, rumor has it, you even know what derivatives are. You’ll figure it out :D

  • http://batman-news.com Roderick2011

    Two days before a pedestrian bridge collapsed at Florida International University, killing at least six people, an engineer with the firm that designed the structure called the state and left a voicemail to report cracking in the concrete span.

    It went unheard for three days.

    “Hey Tom, this is Denney Pate with FIGG bridge engineers. Calling to, uh, share with you some information about the FIU pedestrian bridge and some cracking that’s been observed on the north end of the span, the pylon end of that span we moved this weekend,” Pate said.

    http://www.miamiherald.com/news/local/community/miami-dade/article205627294.html

    You may want to ‘update’ your story before you get sued for libel.

  • danton61

    AFFIRMATIVE ACTION….at its finest…..whaddaya call a boat with four Cubans in it?……Quatro-Cinco…..(SINKO)…yes Affirmative Action’s chickens come home to roost.

  • danton61

    Try THIS on for size, bub…”Can’t Understand Normal Thinking…like yourself C.U.N.T.

  • danton61

    Most likely you’ll be teaching “remedial courses” to all the Affirmative Action enrollees….perhaps a class “discussion” on Che’ Guevara will be in store.

  • Catman

    Aw I’m so sorry to hear about the kitty. As you can see, I fancy a cat….wonderful creatures.

  • Catman

    *Northern. Anything south of Orlando is considered more “northern” than anything bc of all the retirees and transplants

  • Catman
  • L Garou

    The economics is brilliant as well. The builders collect tolls for ten years and after that the toll money goes to the nation.

  • Kimberly King

    Nope. I’m teaching Calc I and Calc III. Contract is already sealed. Nothing remedial about those courses. Speak that hating shit to someone else beloved.

  • Kimberly King

    There’s no rumors to that peasant. I do. Derivatives are quite easy actually. So that was a failed insult. I said “AND?” as in IDGAF what you’re saying/so what. In the south (particular in Memphis), that’s typically what we used “and?” for. I wasn’t asking “and” as in “please worthless person, give me more information.” lol Your opinion is so irrelevant and meaningless darling. Even you know that

  • AdjudicatedCrazy

    An intelligent high school senior knows what derivatives are. Ms. King has clearly taken numerous mathematics courses beyond AP Calculus AB. Chess-playing has f@#$-all to do with mathematics acumen. Don’t project your own intellectual dullness onto other women, Kathy NotSosharp.

  • AdjudicatedCrazy

    Let’s give danton61 a test. If he can derive the cubic formula, we’ll give him a biscuit. That’s not even calculus-level high school mathematics. But he won’t, because he’s too invested in biatching about how stupid everyone else is, twirling the hair in his nostrils, and lancing the boils on his arse.

  • Kathy Sharp

    > Derivatives are quite easy actually.

    Derivatives are trivial, dumbo. That was my point which whooshed past you. Next time you brag, choose something like group theory or Hilbert spaces.

    > I said “AND?” as in IDGAF what you’re saying/so what.

    I see that “brainiac” indeed needs help. Here it is:

    World Chess Championship allows women participate, but they do not do it – they play in Women’s World Chess Championship, where men are not allowed.

    This is the evidence that men, statistically, outperform women in chess at a level where trying to beat a male champion is pointless.

    This can be cross-checked by looking at top players Elo ratings. Top women ratings are ~2550, men ~2800.

  • AdjudicatedCrazy

    You must have some mathematical ability to be able to do music in the first place. Not calculus, though.

  • AdjudicatedCrazy

    For the 5000th time, chess =/= mathematics. It does represent a class of abstract spacial thinking and advanced planning, but it’s hardly the only evidence of one’s ability to abstract. It’s certainly skewed toward the leisure class (and communists). Very few people can even make a living playing chess vs. mathematics. Chess seems like a relatively trivial pursuit in a capitalistic society. Finally, you were the one who mentioned derivatives. If you really knew anything about calculus, you would have said “differential equations.”

  • AdjudicatedCrazy

    Yeah, OK buddy. Some woman killed your tomcat (who was also running free), so women are responsible for the bridge collapsing. I’m guessing you mean “30 years of employment that ended when ‘they’ found out I was posting white supremacist conspiracy shite all over the internet under my real name.” Shockingly, companies are pretty intolerant of that sort of thing. But thanks. Now I have a much better understanding of the connection of unrelated events by the brain of a person with Alzheimers.

  • AdjudicatedCrazy

    Actually, the Snopes article in question links to (and debunks) this very article, nothwithstanding its title. Sandra Rose contended that an all-female engineering team designed this particular bridge, which was a false assertion.

  • AdjudicatedCrazy

    The fact that you are unimpressed with the engineering performance of individual employees is irrelevant to this discussion (although your apparent reluctance to work with people based on their gender, race and nationality was probably the principle factor in your termination). Sandra Rose asserted that “studies all over the world have shown that men and boys are twice as good at math as women and girls.” That is simply false.

  • AdjudicatedCrazy

    You don’t have any comprehension of what I posted, do you? You seem only able to repost the same insipid memes, rather than engage in any actual thought. So I’ll put it in 3rd grade terms. Intelligence is mostly inherited, but partially environmental. Genius-level people working on the problem have not been able to pinpoint the specific genes that cause intelligence (or stupidity). TL/DR: if your parents are Jethro and Daisy Mae Clampett, you are probably dumb AF, even if you are white.

  • AdjudicatedCrazy

    Andrew Anglin is a “Cultural Marxist? Good to know.

  • corrupt

    Not so untested… The Tampa Bay Bridge has this design and has been functioning well for a while.

  • AdjudicatedCrazy

    Hm. A one-man engineering shop is unlikely to get major civil engineering contracts. Assuming this guy actually does have a B.S. in Structural Engineering and some hands-on experience, he probably worked at a corporation for a while, but dissolved in a puddle of salt water when they forced him to work with other people (who were probably mostly other white males), because he sounds autistic AF.

  • AdjudicatedCrazy

    Or, we could just drop a house on him. That would be poetic justice indeed.

  • james ha

    ha. i had to look it up in the dictionary because i actually spelled it “calculous” at first. oh hey, my wife may be the smart one but she still doesn’t get control of the check-book.

  • http://www.dethjunkie.com/ Entropy

    …….you win.

  • AdjudicatedCrazy

    White men from Appalachia: 24.

  • Kathy Sharp

    It seems SJWs just can’t stop even for a second and not divide people into groups and classes. Even when they talk about chess! No no no, you still want people to be divided into groups and fight each other. Too much “community organizing” last few years? You are stuck in fight mode?

  • richardwicks

    Actually, the Snopes article in question links to (and debunks) this very article, nothwithstanding its title. Sandra Rose contended that an all-female engineering team designed this particular bridge, which was a false assertion.

    Could be.

    But if you want a take down on Snopes, go to the Uranium One Page – and read it’s claim versus the accusation against Clinton – if you want to see how far Snopes has fallen.

  • AdjudicatedCrazy

    Some of the more bizarre time signatures require fractionation. Or even piano pieces with normal time signatures and bizarre ornamentation (e.g. Chopin).

  • AdjudicatedCrazy

    I love math, but I despise accounting. You made the right decision.

  • AdjudicatedCrazy

    I don’t give a flying fuck about chess, Cat Lady. I do care about mathematics. And you have no idea what the hell you’re talking about.

  • TheOwley

    You put a lot of work into this. While diversity is good, I advocate that the best be selected from each groupings. Show me the statistics with an all white team. You are going in with a natural bias that each marble has no fault, flawless, therefore the bridge would have not fallen. Yet we throw that bias on minority teams, as you just did.

  • Tyrone Jenkems

    Sorry – I disagree on your definition of ‘scientist’ – it is very limited.
    Stephen Hawking then by your definition was not a scientist. He never did lab work.
    MOST scientists DO NOT do lab research.
    They APPLY the science of physics or chemistry or electrics for modern day use.
    A structural eng applies the science of physics and/or dynamics in his calculations and design work. This is the work of a scientist and why Engineering is a Science degree.

  • Tyrone Jenkems

    When it comes to a minority bidder, they generally are NOT the lowest bidder. They know they get ‘diversity points’ so they don’t have to be the lowest – and when it comes to government jobs – usually are not the lowest bidder.
    Someone made huge $ on this Obama ‘shovel-ready’ funded job.

  • Tyrone Jenkems

    As an engineer I agree with this statement.
    The graduates coming out of Engineering school today in N. America scare the shyte out of me.

  • angrywhiteman

    CORRECT! FAR MORE TO COME! IN 2008 NASA ENRICHED THEMSELVES WITH SHITHOLERS! THAT WAS THE END OF GERMAN CREATED (VON BRAUN PEOPLE) NASA

    NASA HAD TO OUTSOURCE THEIR ROCKET LAUNCHES TO SPACEX, WHERE ALMOST ALL ENGINEERS ARE RUSSIANS!

    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/5833f0902f13d84311919ae041fbd525e2a9a69e1b0544786b0500f773eb458f.jpg

  • Tyrone Jenkems

    HAHAHAHAHA!!!
    Snopes!!!!

    HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!

    Wow.

  • angrywhiteman
  • angrywhiteman
  • angrywhiteman

    HA HA HA HA

  • AdjudicatedCrazy

    The people who used to run it were pretty die-hard Libertarians, I thought. But I seem to remember that they went through a nasty divorce, and maybe someone else has taken over.

  • angrywhiteman

    I CANNOT WAIT TO SEE THE BRIDGE THESE GENIUSES WILL BUILD!

  • angrywhiteman

    THIS SOUTH-WEST-CHICAGO TEACHER WAS ATTEMPTING TO TEACH OUR DIVERSE ‘YOUTH” CALCULUS AND THERMODYNAMICS!

    INSTEAD, GOT “ENRICHED” MULTI CULTURALLY …PRETTY FAST!

    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/d69d7dad9991c58116e882cc92b3ab4cf41d7168b400a5d3c33fa4f024eb05e0.jpg

  • angrywhiteman
  • james ha

    correct on all points, and no way you would know any of that if you weren’t well on your way to being a master. you might have the advantage over me – i am a musician who happens to play guitar, but i don’t consider myself a guitarist – there is a great distinction IMO. like “blue man group” for example; they are musicians, but not PVCists. anyway, i don’t teach people how to play, i teach them how to be better musicians.
    you certainly won’t find me designing any bridges anytime soon…

  • richardwicks

    You put a lot of work into this. While diversity is good, I advocate that the best be selected from each groupings. Show me the statistics with an all white team. You are going in with a natural bias that each marble has no fault, flawless, therefore the bridge would have not fallen.

    In the example I gave, the people who would have no preference for either the red or green marbles would end up with the best marbles in the end.

    The people that would pick only green would end up with a mediocre set despite having a large selections, but not as large as the group that didn’t care about either red or green.

    And the people that would only pick red, would end up with the worst set because it’s the smallest set to pick from.

    It’s not because that red marbles == women, it’s because there’s a smaller subset to pick from. There’s LESS female engineers than male ones, and if they have EXACTLY the same distribution as male engineers in talent, skill, etc – you will always get the worst selection, because the top female engineers would be picked out by the people who simply don’t care if they are male or female.

    You are going in with a natural bias that each marble has no fault, flawless, therefore the bridge would have not fallen. Yet we throw thatbias on minority teams, as you just did.

    Listen to me:

    By restricting yourself to a SUBSET of the available talent, you will *always* get a worse team than if you didn’t.

    Companies that have absolutely no preference in hiring and base hiring ENTIRELY on merit, always, and I mean always end up with the best teams.

    I am a white male but I don’t want to work on a all white male team. Not because I’m a SJW idiot, I want to work with people who are all BETTER than I am, because I always need to learn. Being the best in your team seems real great, until you realize you don’t learn anything in that situation.

    I’m in Silicon Valley – I have worked with plenty of women, homosexuals, a transgendered male to female, and a rumored furry. Do you think I care? Not a bit. I don’t care – but I wouldn’t want to be barred from working with women, homosexuals, transgendered people, or furries – because I don’t care at all, other than what you can do. I don’t care in the least. Your gender, sexual orientation, race, religion – doesn’t matter to me one bit. I do not care at all.

  • richardwicks

    The people who used to run it were pretty die-hard Libertarians, I thought. But I seem to remember that they went through a nasty divorce, and maybe someone else has taken over.

    Haha – lot of people claim to be “libertarians” who aren’t, same like people who claim to be “liberals” aren’t. I ignore those claims.

    I want to show you what is wrong with one example of Snopes:

    https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/hillary-clinton-uranium-russia-deal/

    In that buried you’ll see:

    Among the ways these accusations stray from the facts is in attributing a power of veto or approval to Secretary Clinton that she simply did not have.

    It’s not a question of whether she could veto it, it’s a question of why she got $145 million dollars donated to a charity that Haiti claims isn’t legitimate.

    She certainly could have facilitated it, and she certainly could have opposed it.

    There Is No Evidence That Uranium Went to Russia
    That a change of company ownership occurred doesn’t mean that 10 to 20 percent of America’s uranium literally went to Russia.

    Why has it been changed to “literally”?

    Snopes has become… um, misleading.

    This isn’t a question about just CLINTON being corrupt, it’s a question about whether the ENTIRE federal government is corrupt. I think it is. If it wasn’t entirely corrupt, there would have been HELL to pay when Bush LIED THIS NATION INTO A WAR. This is a violation of the Geneva Conventions that were signed as a direct result of Nazi Germany’s wars of aggression.

    We engaged in TORTURE. It’s been known since the 1960’s torture just forces the victim to say whatever they think they have to say to make it stop. Nobody can stand up to torture. Absolutely nobody.

    In Argentina during their fascist phase in the late 1990’s, you know what happened when a person was taken in for questioning and tortured? They’d confess to whatever they were accused of, and when they were pressed to reveal an accomplice, they would name somebody they weren’t close to but knew the name of, which was almost always a random neighbor. They wouldn’t want to put their friend though that, nor put a family member through that, so who is expendable?

  • TheOwley

    I’m glad you are open minded and willing to discuss in a reasonable way, but I’m tired of all this. Aren’t you. tbh, I rather be on another planet and I take all those furries with me. I’m sick of this one. Not exactly being responsive here, but that’s where I am.

  • robobbob

    Hmmm. does an all women team just happen by accident? I not going to attack these women as not qualified, but it does make me wonder how many bonus points the project was awarded on the government grant application because of that.
    personally, I like my engineers being chosen by the BEST QUALIFIED HUMAN BEINGS available, not by the most diversity sensitive available

  • richardwicks

    I’m glad you are open minded and willing to discuss in a reasonable way

    The reason I’m talking about marbles wrapped in foil, is to remove any biases you have.

    The reality is, this is simply a statistical math problem. I can prove, mathematically, that hiring based on quotas hurt the quota target’s population in the field as well.

    The thing about thinking is that we’re not programmed to think logically at all. The weird thing about science, the interesting thing about it, is what you EXPECT to be true often isn’t, and you can prove this. Your little expectations are absolutely useless when you deal with quantum mechanics for example.

    Here, this will bend your mind. If in the example I gave, where there’s 800 green foiled marbles and 200 red foiled marbles, and 10 people are playing the game again, but only 1 person choses only red foiled (again everybody can only have 80 marbles), and the rest will only choose green foiled, guess who wins nearly every time? The one that picks red only.

    There will be 120 red foiled marbles left in the game and 80 green ones.

    If engineering firms MOSTLY discriminated against women, the ONLY women that would make it, would be really really good women engineers. Is this fair? No, but that doesn’t make it false.

    It’s just game theory in the end. But nobody that supposedly wants to fix a problem wants to look at it empirically to find out how to actually fix it. This is what is so freaking frustrating about this. Maybe I should make a game called “the discrimination game”, so people could actually play this out, and see for themselves.

    but I’m tired of all this. Aren’t you.

    I’m way more tired of it than you are. I actually understand the problem, and know the solution because it’s just a math problem to me, yet we have all these pontificating morons that refuse to actually look at the problem, and put it into a mathematical model, and find the solution. Instead they just tell us, through complete ignorance, what the solution is.

    We’re just walking talking machines made out of meat. Everything has a mathematical solution provided you can model the problem properly. You may find out, for example, that the red and green foiled marbles really don’t have a completely equal distribution of numbers hidden in them, but that’s politically incorrect to acknowledge, so as a result you always have a flawed model.

    Am I saying there’s a difference between female and male engineers in general? No – but I’m acknowledging the possibility. I’m not even allowed to do that, so why bother to investigate it?

    tbh, I rather be on another planet and I take all those furries with me. I’m sick of this one.

    Trust me, that would get pretty old quick. But there’s some event at the DoubleTree every year (or used to be) in San Jose. Fuirther Confusion is what it’s called or something close to that.

    And no, I’m not one – but I knew a guy that tried to drag me there to gawk. I’m more polite than that.

  • Ronald

    angrywhiteman.

    Rest assured if the swamp is not drained, it will come.

    Ronald

  • http://www.rockinghorseguy.com/ TheFlashingScotsman

    From what I heard, it was more than just a pedestrian bridge. It was meant to be a gather place, a hang out, with tables, canopies, etc.

  • http://www.rockinghorseguy.com/ TheFlashingScotsman

    From what I heard, it was more than just a pedestrian bridge. It was meant to be a gather place, a hang out, with tables, canopies, etc.

  • angrywhiteman

    Forty percent of the firm’s team members were F.I.U. graduates, “which enhances our passion for success,” the proposal said.

    It was signed by Jorge Munilla, Munilla Construction
    Management’s president. “They’re significant players in the Cuban
    community,” said Dr. Maidique, who is also Cuban-American. Mr. Munilla’s company won the project, beating out several other firms.

    So yeah. These people come into our countries and set up their little
    colonies, with the help of the Jews, then keep everything in their
    community. Money only flows into these communities from us. That is why they come here in the first place, rather than remaining in their own countries.

    America is collapsing and these savages are cynically picking the remaining flesh from our bones.

    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/945c8d3aeff77158ddd19432f9d467cd5c21327f5960ccce325c5be5b5150295.jpg

  • angrywhiteman
  • Fred234

    You are ignorant of history and culture.

  • Fred234

    Low IQ monkeys cannot learn. Never will.

  • Fred234

    Indonesia is far to high. Inbred muslims plus their genes are related to the abos of Australia.

  • Fred234

    No, they are slightly lower than the general population. Nice try Troy.

  • Fred234

    We don’t need social-justice engineers, ok?

  • Fred234

    My God, look at all the dark skins. Probably all of them were AA students.

  • angrywhiteman

    Diversity Bridge
    Is Falling Down, My Fair Lady – Taki’s Magazine
    http://takimag.com/article/diversity_bridge_is_falling_down_my_fair_lady_david_cole/print
    via @tealdit

  • http://batman-news.com Roderick2011

    School me then.

    Did you really respond to a two day old post?

    Get a life old man.

  • Fred234

    School yourself. You seem to rely on others to do your thinking for you as you prefer to be reactionary, like a good monkey.

  • http://batman-news.com Roderick2011

    Ahhhh the name calling.

  • redmanticore

    When chinese government connected chinese investing firm owns the company… thats still considered minority, because asians, right?

  • redmanticore

    if you really had advanced degree, you would know about international PISA results and how boys & girls have the same skills in math in more equal countries, where they dont hammer it in, that only boys can know math. it has a huge influence.
    https://yle.fi/uutiset/osasto/news/pisa_finland_only_country_where_girls_top_boys_in_science/9337123

  • clerickolter .

    We give women vote then they get all high and mighty entering MENS careers like Engineering and the practical sciences many of which they aren’t fit to do. And its not a diversity team, that would be men and woman and likely the men carrying it since they would have put in the suspension system in before the foot bridge. Simple physics should have ruled out skipping the former step.

  • mark hays

    “I have worked with both and they are equally stupid primarily because of a lack of practical applied education in their chosen profession. I have watched them on many occasions build things that defy their own specifications”

    OH I SEE, so this is why so many brand new structures are falling down right away? NOT. And then just by ‘coincidence’ this all female engineering team just ‘happened’ to be the ones who designed this piece of sh*t killing & maiming people? That’s the worst sales job I’ve ever heard, something else women are horrible at: Sales. Like everything else.

  • mark hays

    The worst part of all of this is the fact that things like this will keep happening because the U.S. has to put feminism & diversity first, plus these women are using women’s favorite tactic right trying to dodge all accountability: Lying. Denying they designed the bridge.

    Same thing happens everyday in every other profession, such as people getting killed in the medical profession because unqualified women & minorities getting hired to fill quotas, most female doctors are also simply ‘passed through’ medical school (because it’s far too mentally challenging for women) so take some good advice: Don’t ever go to a female doctor or even dentist.

  • Danger N Destruction

    the only thing women should be engineering or building is a damn sandwich

  • tigertmoore

    As a PE I say wow…

  • Hlaode

    “Studies all over the world have shown that boys and men are twice as good at math as girls and women.”
    Why force this false dichotomy. Even if we assume hypothetically that women are be perfectly equal to men in every respect promoting people based on group characteristics rather than merit would still be a recipe for disaster.

  • Down With Blizz

    “Federal Military Contractor”

    ahahahaha

  • Down With Blizz

    Why force what false dichotomy?

    Men are better at maths than women.

    Example the first – MCM.

    Any questions? No? Good. Now moving right along to more relevant things…

  • Down With Blizz

    yeah elon musk is a jew. jew dont do diversity. jews just tell other white people to be diverse.

  • angrywhiteman

    CORRECT!

    Hollywood, Media, Deep State, Swamp, Anti-Trumps are all in it

    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/29160d49e29203993ca0cbba7ee576d1121dd7c11545966469cb0d7115c6f220.jpg

  • GerryAttric

    split arse cannot sharpen a knife and is let loose building bridges in a plainly incompetent manner, shove your diversity…

  • Kerth Gersen

    Uhh…that model results in the “temporary” tolls badly needing to be extended due to some other “temporary” condition, ad infinitum…

  • mark hays

    None of this is new. The Challenger space shuttle killed 6-7 astronauts because diversity is more important than being qualified at NASA, but let’s get FAR more closer to home:.The MEDICAL FIELD. Nowhere is ‘diversity’ practiced more & your very LIFE & HEALTH is at risk every time now you go to any hospital especially because they just have to have women & minorities just passed through medical school they couldn’t finish because they weren’t smart or committed enough all so a quota could be reached.

  • Y’all Jealous Cuz I’m Prudy

    The medical field has gone to the dogs and every time I walk through the door, I can see why. Lack of professionalism, gum popping, nails 3 inches long, track/wig hair all over the place, or you can barely understand what they’re saying and they act like you’re bothering them, just by showing up. I HATE going to the doctors office now.

  • erushbass .

    Should have stuck to building sandwiches for thier husbands.

  • Floyd_Lloyd

    Probably would have screwed that up as well.

    “What…where’s the mayo?”

  • kurt9

    They designed what looks like a suspension bridge, then installed the deck prior to building the main spire and support cables. Thus, the deck they installed was not properly supported and, therefore, collapsed.

  • TheEndGameIsNear

    Sue the Federal government over it too. They know there are contractors that they need to ban yet too many in elected office are shareholders of these global conglomerates.

  • TheEndGameIsNear

    Would you quit a job like that if the specs were wrong? There’s people that won’t.

  • TheEndGameIsNear

    That’s because the public voted to terminate Space budgets during Obama’s term.

  • TheEndGameIsNear

    You’re just mad because you are forced by your family to go to those places for your jihadist psuedo Jesus following church. STFU and enjoy your money and lawyers and your LARP arabian roid bois.

  • angrywhiteman

    BELOW ARE DEFINITIONS OF TOPICAL PHRASES…….. PROGRESSIVES LOVE TO USE

    “DIVERSITY” IS A CODEWORD FOR “LESS WHITE PEOPLE”

    “TOLERANCE” IS A CODEWORD FOR “YOU MUST AGREE THAT THERE SHOULD BE LESS WHITE PEOPLE”

    “WE HAVE MOVED FORWARD AS A COUNTRY” IS CODE FOR “THE COUNTRY IS LESS WHITE NOW”

    “BLACK LIVES MATTER” IS A CODEWORD FOR “ WHITE LIVES DO NOT MATTER”

    “ANTI-RACIST” IS A CODEWORD FOR ANTI-WHITE

    ASIA FOR THE ASIANS, AFRICA FOR THE AFRICANS, WHITE COUNTRIES FOR EVERYBODY!
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Fcxry_20Mw

    Everybody says there is this RACE problem. Everybody says this RACE problem will be solved when the third world pours into EVERY white country and ONLY into white countries.

    The Netherlands and Belgium are just as crowded as Japan or Taiwan, but nobody says Japan or Taiwan will solve this RACE problem by bringing in millions of third worlders and quote assimilating unquote with them.
    Everybody says the final solution to this RACE problem is for EVERY white country and ONLY white countries to “assimilate,” i.e., intermarry, with all those non-whites. What if I said there was this RACE problem and this RACE problem would be solved only if hundreds of millions of non-blacks were brought into EVERY black country and ONLY into black countries? How long would it take anyone to realize I’m not talking about a RACE problem. I am talking about the final solution to the BLACK problem? And how long would it take any sane black man to notice this and what kind of psycho black man wouldn’t object to this? But if I tell that obvious truth about the ongoing program of genocide against my race, the white race, Liberals and respectable conservatives agree that I am a naziwhowantstokillsixmillionjews.

    THEY SAY THEY ARE ANTI-RACIST. WHAT THEY ARE IS ANTI-WHITE.

    ANTI-RACIST IS A CODE WORD FOR ANTI-WHITE.
    …………………..

  • angrywhiteman

    DIVERSITY IS A CODEWORD FOR WHITE GENOCIDE
    http://whitegenocideproject.com/diversity-is-a-codeword-for-white-genocide/

    No anti-Whites say a 100% Black area needs more diversity.
    No anti-Whites say a 100% Asian area needs more diversity.
    No anti-Whites say a 100% Muslim area needs more diversity.
    No anti-Whites say a 100% Indian area needs more diversity.

    When it comes to “diversity”, anti-Whites make two distinctions:

    1. Anyone non-White is “diverse”, and 2. anyone White is not “diverse”.

    “Diverse” simply means a place without any White people in it.

    So every time they talk about a “lack of diversity”, they have said what their object is : a place that becomes less and less White – which is genocide.

    That’s why diversity is a codeword for White genocide.
    ……………….
    HAS WHITE GENOCIDE BEGUN IN THE USA?
    http://conservative-headlines.com/2014/12/is-white-genocide-here/

    “In the present Convention, genocide means any of the following acts committed with intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnic, racial or religious group, as such:

    a) Killing members of the group;

    b) Causing serious bodily or mental harm to members of the group;

    c) Deliberately inflicting on the group conditions of life calculated to bring about its physical destruction in whole or in part;

    d) Imposing measures intended to prevent births within the group;

    e) Forcibly transferring children of the group to another group.”

  • Take The Red Pill

    If they even knew where the kitchen was, let alone what to do there.

  • Take The Red Pill

    I strongly doubt that they’re capable of doing even that anymore.

  • tigertmoore

    Notwithstanding idiots of hobbit land recent why yes I have already “quit” and yet first a payment. I have never in my life quit a job without payment first. 2011 in Dubai I came into boss office and closed and locked door. He was likely the most most monstrous bully I had ever worked for in my entire life. He took quite a beating that day. I left office and had my diddy bag and went straight to SZ airport and got on plane to Oman about 2 hours after handing out beating. From Oman I landed NYC. From NYC straight to Phoenix. I understand from later weeks and months and years now that I have criminal warrant from UAE and I do not care, that Emirates has banned me for life and I do not care, that warrant has been issued by interpol and I do not care as if they care… point is I took matters one day to severe beating level and I have no idea today if that monster still is taking charge of engineering but he learned one day of trying to bully an American and he learned his lesson the hard way. But I was ready. He was not as he could beat and smack pitiful slaves all he wanted. Are all Engineers ready to hand out a beating for murderous mistakes? I am. To this day sitting here in Seattle. Quite ready.

  • Kat

    “Fact checking website doesn’t meet my bias so I’m going to accuse them of being fake!”

  • Kat

    Somebody needs to switch to decaf.

  • Kat

    Why, because it doesn’t fit your bias? I personally am happy to find out that bad news is wrong when someone points me to Snopes. I don’t get why people want to cling to stupid and depressing stories.

  • Kat

    Also, if the flag has fringes, that means it’s a military court! :D

  • richardwicks

    Zuckerberg will never be tried. He is just a well paid off pawn.

    He will retire having made a lot of money selling out the entire nation to the intelligence agencies. That’s all FaceBook ever was.

  • Tony Murphy

    Maybe they thought that gravity was a social construct?

  • Gustav le Tocqueville

    I’m retarded and knew that. Who in the hell was overseeing this and why did no one speak up? Nobody on the whole construction team knew this basic concept.
    I smell corruption!

  • James Neufeld

    Back in the 80s I was working as a Machined Parts Fabrication Planner (Design Engineers write the specs to define the product and Planners write the actual instructions to make it.) in aerospace. I was gobsmacked when a DE asked me the difference between a drill and a reamer.

  • James Neufeld

    So, is the dog taking a long dirt nap by now?

  • ameridaddy

    The US Army recently dropped live hand grenade training because most women can’ t throw hand grenades, so why does having a vagina qualify women to design and place a bridge? I smell politics and book learning with no practical experience before being “promoted” for the sake of *spit* diversity *spit* to full responsibility without concomitant capability.

  • Rawr

    Too much privilege. Time to turn in your ammo goys

  • Rawr

    Don’t forget to turn in all your ammo.

  • Rawr

    Yes. We also need a new God. Everyone knows Christianity is old and stupid. We must look into other religion or no religion at all. We must embrace whorism and teach our family that it’s okay to watch porn and smoke weed all day. God Bless.

  • Sentry82

    Anecdotal

  • Sentry82

    Actually a country’s GDP has a much, much higher effect on the IQ of its citizens than genetics.

  • Sentry82

    More due to different interests between men and women actually. Men are statistically better at mathematics than women, but there is no evidence that shows they are TWICE as good.

  • Sentry82

    An all white team would have their bridge collapse blamed on racism and the fact that their team had no “diversity”

  • JamesClerk Maxwell

    Just saying its because its all women. There is more to it than that and its worse than your implying.

    These diversity and inclusion programs are racist and sexist. Whats worse is they are anti-merit and and anti-competence. Once these sorts get into an organization they often seek out the most competent males and trump-up sexism changes and attempt to drive them from the organization. See five stages of corporate convergence to understand this process more clearly.
    https://voxday.blogspot.com/2017/12/the-five-stages-of-corporate-convergence.html

    Look at the Flint water crisis, if your in the municipal water treatment business the cause is obvious and very clear cut. But because there is so much corruption it appears unclear.

    Canadian apiary that’s beekeeping in English. You see the state regulators, all women, suited up like there going to handle radioactive waste fumbling around with a hive for several minutes and then a 30 year experience second generation beekeeper with his bare hands and no suit smoothly takes care of things in seconds. This is an example of make work jobs which I am not all against.

    Elle magazine had these women resisting by surfing, they actually were not surfing as they claimed. If you go to the beach you will almost never see a woman surfing, it because women are afraid in general. For good reason surfing is dangerous. Although you will see ego pumping stories for women breaking the surfing glass ceiling BS from time to time.

    In the construction trades its rare to see women doing the work, its dangerous, dirty and physically demanding. The issue is the diversity and inclusion corruption, make work jobs and cronyism. The devil is in the details and its hard to know from the outside. To me the design looks hokey, you had all those unnecessary ornamental cables that were too resist a category 5 hurricane as was promoted. There is likely an unusually strong near absolute disconnect between the engineering and reality of actual construction. And yes there is no question something went wrong with the post tension cable as they were working on it when the bridge collapsed. Even more strange why was there traffic under the bridge when they were doing that work?? Very odd. People have noted there seemed to be no redundancy in the structure of the bridge design.

    These social justice types are very damaging to an organization, they believe in equality of outcome and will actively sabotage merit and competence. A tell will be if they cannot find a cause, then you know for sure there must be extreme corruption and there is widespread multi organizational convergence.

  • Drake Anderson

    The US Army recently dropped live hand grenade training because most women can’ t throw hand grenades
    Thanks, you made my week..

  • Efreet

    WTF do Cubans who “think that they are white” have to do with this story?

  • Efreet

    all employees are “being used”. Even for a victim narrative, you’re pushing it a little far.

  • Efreet

    “usually the spokesperson in human error…”?
    I don’t think I agree with that. I’ll be watching more closely in the future to see if you have anything there or if this is just more of the Eternal Victims mentality at play.

  • http://batman-news.com Roderick2011

    One of the main subcontractor of the bridge was a Cuban owned firm in Miami.

    They believe they are white, but they won’t be treated that way as long as the investigation happens.

    They will probably be scapegoated.

  • Efreet

    How do you know that the Cubans believe they are white? Have they said anything to that effect? And also, what do you mean by them not being “treated” as white during the investigation? Are you implying that the investigation will take a different direction due to their ethnic heritage?

  • Efreet

    This article was JUST DISCUSSING how bad of an idea it is to hire people based on diversity quotas and it floated right over your head. “Why don’t they place (your race of choice) in senior positions?!” you cry.
    *sigh*

  • Efreet

    It’s funny that in your clearly paranoid little mind whites are only being nice to Hispanics because they are scared of them, because of course all whites secretly hate them.
    How about this? Most whites are being nice to Hispanics in Miami because they want to be nice and polite to other people in public?
    Of course not! Those evil whites hate everybody and are only being nice out of fear! lol.

  • Efreet

    What’s “unbelievable” is that “minority funding” exists in the first place.

  • http://batman-news.com Roderick2011

    I live in South Florida and I have dated them. They are delusional and Trump and Jeff Sessions will bring them back to reality?

  • Mrs. S. Kidd

    “Paranoid”….cute. White people in Miami hardly exist so I was only talking about a max 50 people lol And yes, people act nice to richer people so that they can curry favor. So if a Hispanic person is wealthier and more politically connected, which many in Miami are, then yes, a white person is “nice”.

    I had time to respond on your insolence today but you should really find a new hobby. Commenting on month old blog posts is pathetic.