Joe Jackson, father of music superstars Michael Jackson and Janet Jackson, lost his battle with pancreatic cancer following a long illness. he was 89.

There were reports that the father of 11 was on his death bed in a Los Angeles hospital, but son Jermaine Jackson told reporters "dying" was a harsh word made up for headlines.

Jackson family

“He’s very, very frail, he doesn’t have long. The family needs to be by his bedside — that’s our only intention in his final days," he told London's Daily Mail.

Joe gave his fans hope when he apparently tweeted a photo of himself staring at a sunset earlier this week.

But Michael Jackson's daughter, Paris Jackson, said her grandpa did not send out the tweet.

Joe is best known for being the driving force behind the Jackson 5, who made history when their first four singles reached #1 on the charts in the early 1970s.

Jackson family

Lead singer Michael (pictured foreground) went on to break more records with his best-selling album, Thriller, released in 1982.

Joe’s estranged relationship with son Michael resulted in him being completely left out of the King of Pop’s will after his 2009 death. His mother Katherine Jackson continues to receive more than $1 million annually from the Michael Jackson estate.

Joe was hospitalized in June with terminal cancer. His family had been flocking to his bedside since. His wife, Katherine, had been at his bedside as were some of Joe's children and grandchildren.

Photos by BACKGRID, Getty Images, LIFE magazine

  • Yoni7

    Almighty bless! 2018 done got'em.

  • pure_rachet

    Lots of healthy folks don't see 89.

  • FukkFolks2018

    89 a good full life. God bless the fam. And RIP Joe

  • jeniefrumdabloc™

    Rest well ....

  • Indies beauty

    That's sad. Condolences...

  • PhillyFacts

    Though Joe was stern he had a vision, which resulted in his children becoming mega stars. Parenting, and life doesn’t come with a book; make no excuses. Rest well Joe?

  • Knocked Kneed and Pigeon Toed

    You were mean and surly but you raised one hell of a family. Rest easy Joe!

  • CrunchyBlack1

    imagine if joe wasnt they dad and he paid them in dirt bikes, instead of cash like pebbles did tlc lol

  • hi-liter

    Good, bad or indifferent Joe Jackson raised some extraordinarily human beings. RIP Sir.

  • Kemi

    RIP... Reunited with Michael. Condolences to the Jackson family.

  • Thingamajig

    Welp, we can't live forever. RIP.

  • Rhyme and Reason

    RIP JOE JACKSON! It's nice that Janet did the video that included both her parents, I saw it as closure for her or evolving!

    Parents come flawed, some more than others, but no matter what, the love is almost always there, and this family is grieving!

    Nice pic!

  • bemetoo

    what about the 2 he didn't raise?

  • bemetoo

    how is this sad?

  • SpillyNillie

    RIP Mr. Jackson...like him or not...he left behind a hellafied legacy

  • DETROITTOATL

    repost.

  • Bashi22

    RIP Joe Jackson you are the visionary behind your children success one thing for sure you'r never a dead beat father.

  • ZRoJoTheLezBeyond

    R.I.P. Mr. Joe Jackson

  • justlooking

    What about them, he gone now.

  • KcoolMuziq
  • disqus_DxKO3ThTGI

    Say hey to Michael for me Mr. Joe, and tell him WE MISS HIM.......RIP

  • Phillybruh

    RIP Mr. Jackson, some may not understand or agree with your methods but well done!

  • justlooking

    Rest in Peace Papa Joe...Hopefully you can rest now.

  • Phillybruh

    I thought it was just one spare Jackson

  • Phil Mccrackenzme

    He was from that generation that whipped and yelled at their kids, but he also provided for his 9 kids and didn't abandon them. He gave his kids a way out. I give credit for that. RIP

  • cherrypie

    Someone said Joe up there putting that belt on Mike's ass ? I hate the internet. No chill whatsoever

  • Bashi22

    I love him a man with a plan for his family

  • pecancandy

    Condolences to the family

  • leapyearpisces

    LMAO! Classic line from a classic movie. Mean and SURLY....:-)

  • Ebony Starr

    Every day is a gift and strung together 89 years of them. RIP Joe!!!

  • Coy little wink

    Listen...he got his family out of poverty....my sperm donor dipped old dirty deadbeat...

    RIP JOE

  • Miss Thang

    What can I say? He was human. He did good things. He also caused a lot of damage. I bid farewell. Prayers up for the family.

  • Miss Thang

    no he was not a dead beat father, he was a beat 'em up father :'(

  • Miss Thang

    spare Jackson lmao

  • Miss Thang

    he raised 10. 1 died at birth, Marlon's twin Brandon.

  • TheyDontHearMeTho

    Thats crazy 2 days after the anniversary of his sons death. What were the odds of that happening...RIP

  • hi-liter

    I hope they have closure as now it is too late.

  • Knocked Kneed and Pigeon Toed

    I knew somebody would catch it.

  • http://batman-news.com Roderick2011

    Damn that was quick!!!

  • cherrypie

    FACTS!!!

  • http://batman-news.com Roderick2011

    He exploited his kids.
    That's not the same thing as having a 9 to 5 providing for them.

  • WutizstillHERE!

    All I can say is God doesn't make mistakes on the parents you get or you wouldn't be who you are as a person. In the olden golden days parents were strict and used the rod because that is what was taught to them. My mother whipped 7 kids none saw the inside of a prison all are still alive. Her teaching spung forth 27 grandkids only one passed due to the street. The rest are Priniples, lawers, law enforcement officers, Marines, managers, and truck drivers.. none in jail..I can go on and on so RIP Joe respect to any elders..the end..

  • Bdot

    You mean "died of natural causes"

  • FukkFolks2018

    He quit his job to develop them. Same as Mathew "one T" Knowles. Talent has to be nurtured. Ms. Katie couldnt do it. Had to step out on faith

  • Phillybruh

    No the parents on the Rap game are exploiting their kids, when you recognize one has the gift MJ did you make that happen.

  • Rayne

    Rip Papa Joe! ?

  • ZRoJoTheLezBeyond

    I'm the oldest of 3 kids and I'm the only girl. My mother STAYED whoopin my behind. Out of my 2 brothers, the oldest of the 2 got whoopins, too, just not as bad as me. I got it the worst. Our baby brother hardly saw the belt. To this date, I have not been behind bars. No juvy, no jail or prison. Never sat in a cop car either, thanks my momma! Our baby brother on the other hand... He's been to jail a few times over stupid stuff. No prison time, but has been to jail.

  • MS.B2U

    Rip Joe

  • SpillyNillie

    You sound like my granny. Baybeyyyy she believed in NOT sparing the rod. She boasts all the time..."I raised 9 children, 5 boys and none went to gel!"

  • Rayne

    Even though I wasn’t born in the 50’s and 60’s I respect their parenting to the utmost. That kind of parenting is oh so dead right now, but I’m bringing it back with my son, nieces and nephews.

  • Kemi

    I don’t believe in corporal punishment of a child(ren). I think it’s extreme way of parenting. IMHO! But he raised law abiding children along with Katherine.

  • Rodmilla De Ghent

    also resulted in most if not all their lives and now certain grandchildren lives being totally fucked up, and for what.....music

  • Ang

    That's all true but it's also true that older black people aren't exempt from being abusive. I think a lot of people assume that every older black person who hit their kids was doing what a lot of other black parents did but that's a dangerous assumption because it assumes that no one ever crossed the line into being straight up absuive. Almost all of Joe's kids had issues with him over his "discipline" and the way he treated them. That's not normal. Abusing your wife has never been okay. Black people have to stop lumping whoopings into conversations about abuse.

  • Ang

    That's such a low bar smh.

  • BadAss Will

    This almost worst when James died on good times..... sidebar: Paris Jackson aggravates me....

  • justlooking

    What you climbed on the counter...You getting your ass whooped. My bother climbed on the counter in the cabinet. Ehh that okay, you wanna see it again daddy. Yeah boy let me see you do it.

    SMDH

  • justlooking

    Reallly???? James Evans. LOG THE HELL OFF!

  • Ang

    You can't convince me he wasn't an abusive asshole. I think everything that has been said about him and then some is true. I think the family had to sugarcoat things for the public image. I'm sure he did love his family in his own way, however, love and good intentions doesn't make up for your bad behavior (and I think bad is an understatement in his case). He was a human being with a family so I'll still say RIP even though I don't have any real feelings for him. I hope his family has some closure and healing.

  • Miss Thang

    I agree with everything you said.

  • https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z1lo6u-UIbo Nancy Drew-Natural & Luv’n It!

    RIP to this man ...hope he and his son can reunite in the next world and rest easy together, seeing their impact on this one.

  • Pnthr

    Evil always lives long. I don't care that his stern rearing of his children resulted in stardom, they are all screwed up in the head. Money and fame is not everything. Mental health is.

  • FukkFolks2018

    This is us. My oldest sister she was the only child for 12 years before me. She got her ass tore the heck up. Then me. I got it but not as bad as her. By the time little sis came along (7 years after me and a record EIGHTEEN YEARS after the oldest) our parents were TIRED do you hear me? So she was allowed to run amok and got to hide behind it, excuse it away as her being bipolar. She a high functioning bipolar person tho.

    She goes to damn it jail at ONE time...quarterly. Only reason she stopped is she started having kids 6 years ago.

  • Miss Thang

    lmao I'm sorry but LOOK AT THEM...just look at those plastic faces! Seriously you don't see the irony in this statement? and they surely could have been in jail for the amount of times they beat the women in their lives.

  • Pnthr

    Lmao Mike didn't want to see him here he definitely doesn't want to in the after-life.

  • Miss Thang

    developing a talent without nurturing the person got us the disaster that was Michael. I would rather Michael never be famous if it meant he grew up to be a healthy, well-adjusted human being.

  • Pnthr

    Exactly and most of them other than Janet are broke so was it worth it? Mike's estate is basically supporting the entire family via the allowance Katherine gets. When Katherine dies all hell will break loose. Janet better go into hiding because they'll be looking to leech off of her next.

  • ZRoJoTheLezBeyond

    My momma would take me to the RR if we were out in public or would dig her (naturally) stiletto nails into my arm if I acted up. I got whooped in front of my class when I was in elem. If my momma didn't have her belt in her hand, her purse, shoe, spatula, anything that was within hands reach is what I got whooped with.

    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/b093a76b5ae79c5705355796d7867d17a68f8942eed5684b425593127678c0a7.jpg https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/cdb405909f264a7d2e5fdd66514fa681ee2dae1159bac0ceec411f23b5518f72.jpg https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/523cc083f72655fdac31530f102d82affdcef4ea015e801b214a1751ed4dd22b.gif

  • Kemi

    His parenting styles were extreme. Can’t tell me those children were/are not traumatized. Yeah, they have money and fame, but let’s look at the price they had to pay and still paying

  • Miss Thang

    all for nothing. still all the money going back to white people anyway.

  • FukkFolks2018

    That lady threw that shoe like a football.UP some damn stairs. Im crine

  • tintin

    He lived long..made his family superstars met his grandkids and remained married all this time to his wife. He lived a long fruitful life. A lot of ppl dont even see 65.

    May he rest in peace

  • Ang

    More times than not people hit their kids because it's easier than taking the time to talk to them and teaching them something. Contrary to popular belief of black folks, you can raise law abiding citizens who go to school, work hard, and go on to raise good kids themselves without hitting your kids, cursing at them, etc. My brothers and I are examples of that.

  • Pnthr

    Sure, the Jacksons reached fame but none of them save for MAYBE Rebbie are healthy well-adjusted adults. They're all weird and mentally screwed up. Hell, two of the brothers share a babymama and all that wealth is going back to whites. Janet is the only hope and that baby of hers might not be biologically hers either.

    Black people need to let go of this idea that beating your kids is the only way to discipline them. The way Joe raised them sounded more like abuse than discipline.

  • Pnthr

    Mike went to jail and Randy but ok.

  • ZRoJoTheLezBeyond

    I'm 8 years older than my first brother and 10 years older than our baby brother. I know all too well what it's like to be an only child for a long time. I was spoiled but my momma didn't tolerate bad behavior. My momma was in her 30's when she had my brothers, so yeah, she was tired by then too. She was the disciplinary. My father tried to whoop me ONCE. Had me over his lap with the belt in his hand, tried to smack me and it was so soft he was like "I can't do it".

    We have something in common!

  • FukkFolks2018

    Many kids who got their asses straight up abused did grow up to be healthy and well adjusted. It depends. I whoop kids and not ashamed to admit that I do. Parenting is subjective and I would never interject how to discipline on another parent bc I dont want it interjected on me in return. These my kids. For all we know Mike could have been a bad ass little boy. Whom he felt the need to spank. furthermore, If my 13 yo doesnt bring her ass in here and do these dishes I asked her to do 2 times already since 10 am I am going to whoop one here at my own damn house in a few damn minutes. I hope she continues to grow to be healthy and well adjusted. I type this with all seriousness.

  • ZRoJoTheLezBeyond

    Member when Eddie Murphy was reminiscing on how his momma had the boomerang effect with her shoe when she threw them at them growing up? That was my momma up and down!

  • Pnthr

    And Michael was extremely talented. He would have made it with or without Joe pushing him as a child which was extremely detrimental to his mental health.

  • FukkFolks2018

    Lol. This was my dad to the T. He actually got laughed at by my mom once. After they had divorced. Told me on phone he was gonna come to my school and "get me" bc of xyz. My mom was like why do you say such things to these kids. WE ALL know you arent spanking anyone. If you come get her you will come get her alright....to take her to get ice cream. You are a PUSH OVER sir.

  • FukkFolks2018

    YESSSS. Lillian in her heels.

  • Scorpio

    Damn! Damn! Damn!

  • FukkFolks2018

    As adults.

  • Pnthr

    People act like Joe was some genius visionary. If he didn't luck out by having Mike for a son he'd just be another father of a washed up boy band. Mike's talent was God given. He couldn't "make" another Jackson 5 if he tried.

  • https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z1lo6u-UIbo Nancy Drew-Natural & Luv’n It!

    my baby sis is 7 yrs younger. spoiled as hail and never really had a good 'azz whoopin' - only a few spankings. but, to her credit, she's a good girl. she never ran the street like the rest of us, never talked back, like the rest of us, and never got chin checked, like the rest of us, LOL!!! she said she saw my Mama stick & move on us and she decided 'issa no' ....i say that to say this, every kid is different. baby sis is spoiled and standoff-ish, but she never gave my parents any trouble. the rest of us had to be beaten into submission, LMAO!

  • Kemi

    Kudos to your parents! I refused to raise my children in a harsh environment cos I was raised in an old fashioned way. No way in hell ! Children should see their parents as their protector and not as terror. Michael was fearful of this man.. Naw

  • FukkFolks2018

    Jermaine was at one time set to be a bigger star than Michael. So I am going to respectfully disagree.

  • Miss Thang

    Wait a minute. You can't give Joe the credit for them becoming superstars and then not give him the credit for them having little to no self-worth to the point of mutilating their faces and abusing their spouses. Either give him the credit for the good and the bad, or none at all. Parenting affects kids throughout adulthood. I haven't spoken to my mom in 4 months and I'm in counseling for some shit she did when I was a child. I'm still a successful person with a Bachelor's degree and a good job. I guess my mom can take credit for that. But will she also take credit for allowing her husband to abuse me? Bet she have every excuse in the world for why that's not her responsibility lol

  • FukkFolks2018

    this too. lol. "Issa no" I done seen you punch the others. Im good luv enjoy!

  • Pnthr

    Lmao as if that's the sole reason. My brother and I were bad ass kids and never got "whooped". My brother is a cop now and I own a successful business. Shocking!

  • Coco_Butter

    You ain’t lying about that I saw that telephone extension cord more than a few times, whiplashes everywhere.
    RIp Joe

  • Phillybruh

    13 I have one in my house who seems to want go right up to the line these days ...lol

  • Ang

    I know. It's like Clive Davis acting like he did something amazing by "discovering" Whitney Houston. There was nothing to discover lol. Cissy and Dione were already in the biz. He knew Whitney since she was 12 when she started singing backup for her mom. Anyone could hear her heavenly voice and know it would magic if she was an artist.

  • Miss Thang

    I believe some kids MAY need corporal punishment, but I also think it's overall very lazy parenting from the instances that I've witnessed and experienced it being implemented. It comes from being very angry and frustrated and taking that out on the child. I believe there are so many better ways to discipline a child but it takes so much more patience, energy and time, and that's why parents just lose it and beat their kids' asses. It is a loss of control.

  • Pnthr

    Nah the point was his kids never got into trouble with the law and grew up decent. They didn't. Your parents beating you as children is to mold you to be a good adult. Don't change the narrative now. Whether Mike was innocent or not is irrelevant, he still did weird questionable things that got him in jail in the first place.

  • Pnthr

    ? The whole gist of your comments is that your parents beating you as children is to mold you to be a good adult. Don't change the narrative now.

  • Coco_Butter

    Right Michael became a superstar and disciplined by the hard work Joe taught him
    Regardless of how people feel or felt about him he blessed us with the genius and talent of MJ

  • FukkFolks2018

    She is testing me constantly. Like I told her, she expects the sun, moon and stars from me. Okay. I can give you most of what you want and all of what you NEED but you WILL do these damn chores or die trying to avoid them. Which one is it? I had to sit in the kitchen with a belt over my shoulder Sat. to get my kitchen cleaned and its only Wed and we back at square one. Dont you want to wash dishes without fear? Why cant you do it on a voluntary basis? Like...NO

  • Ang

    Jermaine was the lead singer until MJ got on the mic and started dancing. That's where the jealousy goes back to. The director of Jermaine's video Dynamite said "well, he's no Michael" when he was asked about working with Jermaine because it took him so long to get the basic dance routine right.

  • http://batman-news.com Roderick2011

    If you say so!!!

  • http://batman-news.com Roderick2011

    If you consider nurturing beating the sh!t out of your kids then yeah I guess.

  • https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z1lo6u-UIbo Nancy Drew-Natural & Luv’n It!

    not excusing Joe's parenting. just adding that, as someone already said, some parents just do the best they can or what they know. it's possible that there was an element of fear in Joe's extreme approach to raising his boys. you have to remember they were in Indiana - no stranger to klan activity and glaring political racism. maybe Joe was just trying to keep his boys alive. *shrug*
    again, not a justification.... just an attempt to understand what may have been going on in his mind.

  • ZRoJoTheLezBeyond

    Man! That was my dad up & down, too. He never wanted to be the "bad guy" smh.

  • joel adams

    So Matthew knowles is the new joe jackson

  • https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z1lo6u-UIbo Nancy Drew-Natural & Luv’n It!

    she always was pretty smart, LOL!!!!

  • Pnthr

    You can look at it that way but to me he just seemed like a mean bitter man because he got talked to and treated like a slave at work and probably in public by others and took it out on his kids. Why didn't Katherine have that same fear? Or other black fathers back then? They weren't all like that.

  • Pnthr

    Exactly. We'd love to have another Michael Jackson and Whitney Houston. Get the belts out and start whipping these kids if that's all it takes! ??

  • FukkFolks2018

    For me its part of it. I have no issue with cleaning your clock. You will do as I ask and I dont plan on asking more than 1-2 times. Next time I interact with you I will be lending you a hand and helping you off your back after I clothesline you.

    I cant speak to why Joe beat the Tar shit out of his kids and we can no longer ask him. I saw folks up top talking about their grandmothers beat kids. Well consider me old school bc I lay hands currently if needed. And will continue to do so.

  • Pnthr

    I only work in facts and reality not would coulda shouldas.

  • https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z1lo6u-UIbo Nancy Drew-Natural & Luv’n It!

    This! my dad talked cash money trash... raising hail, just selling wolf tickets. later on when we were grown and realized he ain't passed nan lick, we asked him about it. he still tryna save face, gonna tell us 'i let yall mama discipline yall 'cause yall was girls and i didnt want to hurt yall' ....Bruh! you was soft, LOL!

  • FukkFolks2018

    Welp. Consider me a lazy, out of control parent. She makes all A's, excels in her extra curricular activities and volunteers. But I want what I want when I want it far as what I ask of mine, and I dont plan on keep asking nicely to any child. Over and over. This isnt a record store so there are no broken records here

  • FukkFolks2018

    THIS!!!!!

  • Ang

    ITA. I still remember when I was in middle school a lady my mom worked with had kids at my school so she would come over sometimes. I really couldn't stand her bad kids (the ones in elementary school were terrible). One day that stood out to me was when I overheard her asking my mom how she got me and my brothers to be so respectful to her because we didn't talk back or curse and we did what she asked when she ask. My mom told her I'm glad you asked. She told her my kids don't speak to me that way because they've never heard me or my husband curse at them, calling them stupid, etc.

    We respected our parents because they were are parents not because we were in fear of being cursed out or beat.

  • ZRoJoTheLezBeyond

    That's awesome for you both! *no sarcasm either* It's not shocking actually. I don't regret the whoopings I got from my mom.

  • https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z1lo6u-UIbo Nancy Drew-Natural & Luv’n It!

    we all respond to the stress in our environments differently. if he did take it out on his kids, he was wrong for that. and, who's to say Katherine didn't have the same fear? also, she seems extremely submissive, so if Joe said that's the way it's gonna be, it's not like she could just take her brood and leave. she probably did what she could, which was be the nurturing parent who didn't yell and hit.

  • Pnthr

    Cool. Maybe your mom had other good qualities that helped mold you but I don't agree that beating kids is an effective method of raising them.

  • FukkFolks2018

    Co sign

  • Ang

    He didn't hit his wife and kids but the rest is a decent comparisons. He actually out did Joe in the outside baby department. Joe has one outside kid. Matthew has what two with two different women and wasn't supporting them.

  • https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z1lo6u-UIbo Nancy Drew-Natural & Luv’n It!

    BYE!

  • https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z1lo6u-UIbo Nancy Drew-Natural & Luv’n It!
  • FukkFolks2018

    You must not know that I am all facts all the time. and try my BEST to be consistent. What narrative am I trying to change? Yes. You do what you have to do to get them to adulthood and HOPE they are productive. Dont go to jail etc. But if they DO that is ON THEM. Bc you did what YOU the parent feel should be done and we ALL know once someone is an adult...there is NOTHING you can do. I correct my circle all the time on things I "should MAKE my 23 yo" do. I cant MAKE her do anything. Nor do I want to.I want her to make her own decisions bc she is my own FELLOW GROWN UP.

  • Mrs. S. Kidd

    You sound bitter and upset lol He was a visionary. The Jackson 5 broke records during their era and subsequently so did Michael and Janet Jackson. If other fathers could do it, then they would have but they didn't.

  • Mrs. S. Kidd

    Let's not act like there's not plenty of mentally deranged poor & middle class people with zero money or fame lol

  • Mrs. S. Kidd

    It was a different era. Ask a grandparent or great-grandparent what some of their punishments were. It wasn't a nice time to be a child in most households.

  • Dontgetdraggedhoe??

    Matthew isnt that bad. I used to cuss him out but since his child likes cheating deek who im i to judge? And although he's a shady ass ho, he built beyonce from the ground up. No i dont believe that she would have made it based only on her talent " ". Joe was a real life monster to thise kids. He's lucky its a private family because if they wanted to im sure we would know the depht of his evil deeds.

  • Miss Thang

    lol

  • Miss Thang

    That's what I'm saying!

  • Ang

    I would call his parenting style cold and sometimes cruel. Janet said a long time ago that she had issues with men because of how cold and distant her father was with her when she was a child. Michael talked about Joe calling him ugly. The family was in control of the mini-series. That pretty much confirmed that he was absuive but they had to sugarcoat it.

  • Dontgetdraggedhoe??

    I have nothing nice to say

  • FukkFolks2018

    Me thinks that 3 possibly more Roses in this post... got the absolute shit beat out of them as kids. For that I am sorry. Sounds like your parents used physical punishment for the wrong reasons. Maybe get yall need some counseling and some bridge building materials. IDK.

    Bc others of us got the crap slapped out of us and some sound..DARE I SAY... thankful for it. And seems like yall are mad at us for NOT being mad and resentful towards our parents about it.

    Furthermore, stop judging the parenting style of others. Worry about your own damn kids but something tells me some of the folks this applies to...dont have any kids.

    Peace.

  • FukkFolks2018

    Its okay babes. this post is a cluster fukk

  • Pnthr

    Did you? All of his kids said he was trash, the most vocal being your fave MJ, so much so that he claims he threw up at the sight of his father so save it. ?

  • Kemi

    Very good parenting and discipline instilled in you and your sibling, through direct parental guidance. And not trying to be “friends” with your kids. And trying to pacify with an IPad, latest technology/ fashion etc..

  • Pnthr

    ?? Bitter and upset about what? What did Joe do other than have sex with Katherine? Lmao. I'd give Berry Gordy credit before him. He hit the genetic lotto with MJ. Thats it.

  • https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z1lo6u-UIbo Nancy Drew-Natural & Luv’n It!

    I had to sit in the kitchen with a belt over my shoulder Sat. to get my kitchen cleaned
    ___________________

    sorry Shug.... but this has tickled me in a deeply 'azzhole aunty' way., Lol... i wanna know her demeanor, how long it took her, and if you made a point of inspecting her work when she thought she was done.
    when i tell you i'm tickled right now.... https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/bb4264f7d4d7227830d50436ebc02fe52f854ab6633bc6dbb91c04c30c8efcd0.gif

  • Ang

    I don't need to ask anyone anything. My grandparents are from the same generation as Joe (some older actually). My family has plenty of stories to tell about the things they endured from racist down south back in the day and the way they were brought up. Sorry, beating your wife and kids and having them fear you and grow up to hate you was not the way all black families were even back then. My parents definitely got more whoopings than kids in my generation but they were not abused, physically and psychologically.

  • Yui

    You were not in their household so don’t pass judgment. At the moment, you jumping on every comment in this post makes you seem a little too invested.

  • HoneyyGoodMoneyy_

    bless the family.

  • Pnthr

    Okay cool. I thought your whole argument was that beating your children was the right method to ensuring they grew up to be decent.

  • https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z1lo6u-UIbo Nancy Drew-Natural & Luv’n It!

    well damn, i thought all was forgiven on the other side! ROFL!

  • Mrs. S. Kidd

    Where are your superstar children and/or family members? You said anybody could do it but not many have so give the man his credit and keep it moving. You don't have to like him to see what he created.

  • Ang

    You actually sound kind of mad. It's not that serious.

  • Yui

    I was threatened at an early age. Never got preggers and never went to jail. Thanks mom! ?

  • Allergic2dumbstuff

    You had a good life Mr. Joe. *OAN: Does anyone know if Mr and Mrs Jackson legally divorced or just long term separated?

  • Mrs. S. Kidd

    *Your* parents were one set of families. They did not represent the whole. "Not all Black families" doesn't work with me boo. I only deal with facts. Disciplinary tactics were crude back then and many Black people from that era (40s/50s/60s/etc) don't consider their childhood trauma as abuse but it would definitely be considered abuse *today*.

  • FukkFolks2018

    I whoop my kids. Its not a surefire way to make sure they grow up to be shit though.

  • Mrs. S. Kidd

    Don't try to turn this on me. I disagreed with the comment and I made my points on why I disagreed. If it's not that serious then why are you commenting? lol

  • Ang

    I didn't say my family was representative of the whole. You're the one who said I need to ask my grandparents what their experiences were lol. I already addressed the rest of this below, not doing it again. I'm fine if you or anyone disagrees. ???

  • Pnthr

    Are you dumb? I said he lucked out having MJ for a son. You think he beat that voice into Michael? Try and use your brain.

  • FukkFolks2018

    GIRL. BF came in here like wtf is going on in here.It took her 33 minutes. Fastest clean up ever. She was SHOOKETH. I was on my phone reading the news etc. I aint inspect. I just wanted it DONE.

  • Pnthr

    K.

  • Melinated Goddess??

    If you don't discipline your kids the cops will.

  • Kemi

    I get it that most ppl have their own way of parenting that works for them. But Joe’s approaches with his kids were demeaning, if his grown kids said that about him. Children need structure and a reasonable form of discipline, not to the extent of them losing themselves.

  • Ang

    Bye girl.

  • caprise thomas

    Mrs Jackson dosn' t believe in divorce they're still legally married. But they live separate lives.

  • Ang

    Exactly!

  • Pnthr

    Nope! Mike looking at Joe tryna get through those pearly gates like nah https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/7e2c83ba3b70afc67a89e332c69a4561a1ab0ae2ae1ac53e4ee23c931a060bf1.jpg

  • Mrs. S. Kidd

    You act like Michael Jackson's voice was the best thing ever...he was not Barry White or Luther Vandross lol Michael had stage presence which was cultivated by the hard work and discipline instilled by his father. You need more than luck to become what MJ was....now, what were you saying about a brain? lol

  • https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z1lo6u-UIbo Nancy Drew-Natural & Luv’n It!

    oh, she gone be just fine. she got sense enough to still get shook.... she not really about that life. she just going through some hormonal changes, LOL!!!!

    #CarryOn
    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/e86501847072dcba783eea0bbb2c002d3ed3d888581b08556155899f7897582f.gif

  • https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z1lo6u-UIbo Nancy Drew-Natural & Luv’n It!

    you said the security up there tighter than Neverland? LMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • Mrs. S. Kidd

    Toodles doll, it was my pleasure.

  • Ang

    I bet. ??

  • Pnthr

    Yes because anyone who disagrees is a troll. Grow up please. You can't even counter what I said because you know I'm right. Beat It. Pun intended.

  • Pnthr

    ???? you are a fool! Lmfao!!

  • Pnthr

    That's your opinion. The whole world disagrees and that wasn't even the point but I guess you realized you lost the argument so you throwing out anything hoping it sticks. And what about Michael's brothers? Why weren't they just as famous or successful? Oh okay then.

  • Allergic2dumbstuff

    Thank you. I didn't know Mrs Jackson didn't believe in divorce.

  • Pamela

    Eye roll...

  • https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z1lo6u-UIbo Nancy Drew-Natural & Luv’n It!

    speaking of those who have taken their rest (or are trying to),
    WHY was Pat "Undertaker" Houston on GMA pushing yet another Nippy documentary????!!!!

    If i see her dusty greasy azz on my tv ONE MORE TIME!!!! ARGH!!!! https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/63d1da5f502ee5cb931b4b6cbd5b12f9625a58356abcab137e67cbcc496aa4b5.gif

  • FukkFolks2018

    And I was doing a scare tactic. But I will and HAVE grabbed her round the clothed neck area and shook real hard here lately.

  • https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z1lo6u-UIbo Nancy Drew-Natural & Luv’n It!

    she gotta learn, LOL!!!

  • Mrs. S. Kidd
  • Pnthr

    Was Michael not a global superstar? Did he not sell more than Luther and Barry? You truly are a dunce. Learn to comprehend what you read.

  • Pnthr

    Yeah exactly, you can't even say anything. Goodbye.

  • Mrs. S. Kidd

    I stated that MJ was great despite not having the greatest singing voice...so clearly the comprehension is lacking on your end. Any who, my community service is done for the day. I can only entertain you short yellow bus kids for but so long. Bye now.

  • Real Talk With Kizzy Rock

    When you look into his eyes you can see hurt, anger, pride and pain. Most of it PROB manifested from HIS childhood, one in which he PROB never talked about. Not making excuses for his actions AT ALL but hurt people, hurt people. I am sure he loved his kids but generational curses are real. Micheal was determined to not follow the pattern and we can as well . It starts with research but ultimately having a relationship with God so he can lead us because breaking these curses are not easy. Let it be abuse, addictions, lack of affection and the list goes on...it starts with us WILLING to FIGHT to go the opposite direction from what we were taught..we get one life on this earth #LIVE

  • Pnthr

    Exactly like chill out.

  • Pnthr

    You said he did not have the best voice ever. His accolades state otherwise. No one ever says his voice was lacking. You're just looking to argue. Joe Jackson DID NOT GIVE MICHAEL HIS GIFT! He was born with it. If so, why weren't his brothers as good if his success was "cultivated by the hard work and discipline instilled by his father"? You haven't answered. I'm waiting. Look in the mirror and realize you're not as smart as you think you are. https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/81a18a71d7cf286597808bf5b46c610a5ce5819411efd4265a811838e3140f47.gif

  • Bee jaay Cee

    He could have suppressed his talent and not allow him to perform and develop.

  • WutizstillHERE!

    Actually money and hollywood made them weird and screwed up through the vehicle of money not the hands of Joe. Joe pushed his kids in that direction not knowing the pitfalls millions of fans and string pulling cultist whites would bring to his kids. AGAIN.. in those days people raised their kid how THEY WERE RAISED! Joe knew his kids had to work twice or three times as hard as ohhh say the partridge family to be view as stars, you can't even begin to imagine what it was like to be black in the 60's and 70's with scrap ass jobs that weren't enough to live on. All he knew is there was money in the business and if his kids made it they wouldn't have to struggle..period. Now you may not agree with how he did it..but that neither mine nor YOURS to tear down... so your interpretation on how normal or not normal they are bears zero weight on the overall accomplishment of a man with a little education did for his family. Only you high-assed people that like to look at others down the length of your shit tipped nose always have something negative to say about others..catch a rock between your forehead Goliath and leave peoples lives alone.. RIP Joe Jackson, you help create a legend that shaped a culture for ever...

  • Pnthr

    That's another way to look at it. I'm not mad at that at all.

  • Phillybruh

    He opted out of camp and he's got two jobs, make sure your brother gets on that van on time to get to his camp and walk the dog they begged for. I have to constantly remind him to walk the dog and not too forgot the poop bags because we already got one 200.00 ticket for him not picking up after it.

  • Trace da Ace

    RIP

  • Alicia.Ashe

    Did he ever acknowledge the daughter he supposedly had outside his marriage? My condolences.

  • Phillybruh

    Really see I think the family played up the abuse angle because the public ate it up. No way a serial abuser gets producer credits on all my albums ( Michael & Janet).

  • http://batman-news.com Roderick2011

    The why doesn't matter--the point is that Joe screwed up his kids all sorts of ways, but according to you they are ok because they made lots of money. *eye roll*

  • Phillybruh

    Mathew is worse, she's barely literate...lol Thank god she can sing.

  • Phillybruh

    He was an amazing business man, the deals he set up for his sons were something back then. he negotiated an estate for the Jackson 5 and the percentage points they received off each album was unheard off.

  • Miss Thang

    yes, girl! Joh'Vonnie was his favorite! she's the only one he allowed to call him "Daddy."

  • Ang

    Doubt that. And Joe doesn't have producer credit on all their albums.

  • Phillybruh

    Joe has producer credits on both Janet and Michaels albums it was in the article the house of contracts the Jacksons built some years ago.

  • justlooking

    LMAO

  • http://batman-news.com Roderick2011

    Ouch!!!

  • ShadesofEMPRESS

    RIP to Joe Jackson.

  • Miss Thang

    lmao

  • Ang

    He doesn't have producer credit on ALL of their albums. But that's irrelevant to whether or not he abused them lol. He was still their father. They were still a family in the public eye and doing business together. You can't escape family. It's also not true that the public ate up the abuse allegations. A lot of people thought mike was lying and a lot of people didn't care since he became famous and rich because of his dad.

  • FukkFolks2018

    Where did I say anything about money? I said step out on faith. You previously abused kids...now adults on here TODAY are getting on my damn nerves.

  • FukkFolks2018

    Its why we dont have a pet. I cant. I know they wont take care of lil Fido. I already know they wont.

  • WutizstillHERE!

    HOLD UP..I said nothing about his abuse of his wife..Im not excusing the behavior either..what I saaaid was people back THEN raised their kids how THEY were raised. I said zero about how he abused his wife. I think you lumped that together not me. You keep looking at life in the 50's and 60's through the lenses of today. Back then there wasn't any easy means of education, or mental health or money for either for many black people. So what you saw in your house as normal is what you immolated alot of times. Not all men who lived in abusive homes became abusers, no. But many did because that was their example of manhood, not saying right or wrong. Again a man like Joe how ever we saw it chose to stay and not abandon ship and he tried to develop the talents of his kids through discipline that he knew so his kids didn't end up poor like he was.. we can villanize him but until you know how it was back then don't assume anything. His kids are the only ones who can speak of their dad and all said that they understood why he did what he did.. not that they accepted it as right but understood it..

  • Ang

    *sigh* I didn't say you said anything about him abusing his wife. I was speaking on Joe in general and the way black people respond to him. I thought that was clear.

    I don't know about Joe not abandoning ship. Of course he wasn't going to completely abandon ship when he had 5 little money makers in the house lol. Once he got some money he had a long term mistress and had a child with her who is the only child who was allowed to call him dad. He actually did separate from Katherine.

    No means to education? We've had black colleges since the 1800s.

    I don't know why people assume someone doesn't know what things were like back in the day because we have a different opinion.

  • http://batman-news.com Roderick2011

    I haven't abused anyone but Joe fukked up Michael big time mentally and let LaToya tell it he touched her not like a father should, but now I understand why we as a race are in the situation we are in--money is supposed to cover up abuse.

  • WutizstillHERE!

    Truth! My children were spanked..when the punishment was justified and not often..(not beat but only according to Georgia law which is on the fleshy butt and not to spank in a way that left welts and bruises) The reason I have a different eye is the fact that my dad will be 103 this year and he has sat and talked to me about society back then. Him even being a black man who had to drop out of school to share crop. But he made it out of that. His parent were disciplinarians from what I am told..but I have only had 2 spankings from that man in my life, one for losing a pair of my glasses costing over $100 (that was alot back then) and for lying about my report card so I could still play sports. So yeah I can only say as all say with knowledge come responsibility. If they knew and was taught a better way they would have chosen it.

  • Alextra Ballard

    Dammm,that Grimm Reaper has struck again..my condolences to the entire Jackson family.Don't mourn Joe's death,celebrate his life.wow!! 89 years old.

  • justlooking

    I'm glad I got my ass beat. Outta all my mama off spring I'm the only one didn't have no trouble..Maybe it's fluke, but the rest been in some shit. Never had a lick.

    No blood was shed, but they switch marks got damn...and one time I was tore up coming out the tub.

    she said youuuuu thhhhoughhhht IIIIIII foooorrrgoooottt the mess you pullllled. I slept good that night, I sure I called her a skinny uglie. That was the best I could cuss back then. BTW my mama is the prettiest woman....Memories I can now laugh about.

  • Sushi

    YOu are to funny..........

  • WutizstillHERE!

    Spilly...I had the MEAN granny.. Girl she lived in Mississippi on a farm and when we visited..chile.. a whippen was from the weeping willow tree.. girl them damn branches never broke! She would skin us! She was just evil though too. because she was fair skinned.. she hated my daddy fontblack self..which spilled hate in my direction as well..I know her and the devil are enjoying each others company..

  • SpillyNillie

    Aww naw Sis! I'm sorry tho her about her hating you and your father. I'm from Louisiana so I've heard a many stories told of the fair skin vs dark skin. Colorism is/was a bitch!

  • Lady_Elle

    My sincere condolences to Mr. Jackson's family, friends, loved ones.
    Mr. Jackson lived a full life with much to be celebrated.
    RIP

  • Anji

    Congrats to your dad the centenarian. Bet he has some stories. I love listening to the elders speak. He is about the same age my dad would've been had he lived that long. My dad ran from the sharecropping and the whip during depression. My siblings and I were spared because he was whooped horribly in Mississippi, but we all were super achievers and survived.
    My mom never whooped us, but her silent, mean native ways made us wish she would. Even as adults we never doubted my mom would've taken us OUT!, had it not been for my dad. She would wing nephews and drew down on my brother a couple of times but she was verbally astute and believed in constant discourse for discipline. What matters is that we were disciplined and had expectations and many of our youth don't have any guidance at all.

  • Bea Mack, Pro-BLACK

    My aunt raised me...... at 15 she slapped me so hard I tee tee’d myself.... only TOOK ONE TIME (shout out to Migos)

    I am grateful and lol about it with her to this day....

    ***waltzes out whistling “Do you remember the time? ???? while realizing Joe Jackson’s had to go through Michael first to meet his maker....

  • Bea Mack, Pro-BLACK

    ?please say it louder for the thorns in the back

  • Bea Mack, Pro-BLACK
  • Bea Mack, Pro-BLACK

    This is the nicest attribute I’ve ever read about ol Joe Joe

  • FukkFolks2018

    The new Papa Joe post is even MORE exhausting

  • FukkFolks2018

    I am crine at a beating on the way up out the club!

  • FukkFolks2018

    My bf was raised by his grandma. She passed 2 weeks after my dad did last Feb. The STORIES him and alllll of his cousins (about literally 30 of them) told about this little lady whooping the MESS outta them. His cousin directly under him is 6'3 and everyone says always been a big huge fella..said when he was 16 trying to sneak in the house late on a WEEK night... she had heard him coming in and pushed a kitchen chair DEAD to the back door and stood up in it, turned out lights and tackled his ass down to the ground upon entry and was swinging away on him for at LEAST 3-4 minutes til their grandfather (also ironically named Joe) heard the commotion and came and plucked his wife up off the lad. Said he grateful to this day for that beating bc the next night his crew all got arrested for tresspassing. Had his granny not beat dat ASS he would have been right on out there with them.

  • justlooking

    I was skin waa all supple. And took hot baths back then. I thiught I was Diann Carolle. Hmmmph

  • FukkFolks2018

    Toya on social media saying she loved her daddy. I didnt say YOU abused anyone. I said you abused kid who is now an adult. I also still aint said nothing about any money.

  • Pnthr

    And then he'd grow up and leave the house and chase his dreams.

  • Bonita

    That pancreatic cancer is no joke! I watched my former Manager shrivel up like a prune before my eyes. I was the only one from my company that he allowed to visit him in his condition. I've never witnessed anything like it.

  • Bea Mack, Pro-BLACK

    Nice! Even though you just finished typing a novel.....

    The pernt is some of us are still alive and w/o felonies because someone believed in whoopin azzes!

  • Bea Mack, Pro-BLACK

    Man.... I got the hell on out shortly after my comment.... mofos was acting like they wanted to call Child protective services for getting whooped 30 years ago..... the bickering became both unfunny and exhausting ??

  • Karmen

    Yes it did. They act like they really know what happened at the Jackson house.

  • Cannelle

    I've had family members pass away from pancreatic cancer. "Shrivel" is a good word to describe what happens. They become a shell of their former self. It is just...awful.

  • http://batman-news.com Roderick2011

    Lots of abuse victims 'love' their abusers.

    It's called Stockholm Syndrome.

    I saw it first hand between my mom and her mother.

    Shit my grandma called my mom her slave in front of me.

  • Wayup!

    Exactly we're talking about Michael Jackson here an extremely timid child..
    I highly doubt there was anything that Joe Jackson told him to do that Michael
    turn his nose up at.
    And first of all Michael came from the era where you wouldn't even suck your teeth or roll your eyes at your parents.
    But I can guarantee that Joe Jackson was standing over Michael with a belt to sing I bet you that...

    I still tear up at Michael Jackson's life though he was a multi-millionaire he was so lonely he was and I don't care what nobody say...
    The effects of mental abuse took on his body and not only him his brothers and sisters too,
    I for one can understand the rage that a lot of people in the comments section have against Joe if you've never been abused as a child you'll never understand what it feels like as an adult trying to deal with those emotions.
    The only one I feel for is Catherine at this moment I hope she can find some closure from all of this
    Wonder how she felt as a woman standing by seeing her husband hurt her children like that and it was nothing she could do about it because she was afraid of her own husband!!!
    I hope the whole remaining Jackson Clan can find closure from this and I hope they go to therapy as a family..

  • Wayup!

    Hello exactly...
    Michael's self-worth was never cultivated only his talent and for that Joe Jackson is GUILTY for ruining Michaels self-esteem...

  • Wayup!

    I can't do this comment section...
    Because one moment before Joe diedEverybody was talking trash about Him and rightfully so...
    Now everybody in here reminiscing about all the thankful as&s whipping yall got???

  • Chuck

    I saw just an interview of MJ explaining how this man used to beat him and his siblings, while weak ass Katherine watched. I hope Joe has asked God for forgiveness because MJ said this coward never apologized to them. Sad that Joe and Katherine think just because they raised them to be millionaires that it warrants the beatings and "kept them out of jail." This fool never even allowed his kids to call him dad or father. Sick & Pathetic

  • Dreamer

    GIRL ??? Your comments absolutely keep me weak!! ?

  • Dreamer

    *cackles*

  • https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z1lo6u-UIbo Nancy Drew-Natural & Luv’n It!

    listen! i try not to dislike folks, but that Pat? i want her to let Nippy rest! (she didn't check on her in that bathroom, so i want her to stop checking for her Now!) lawd, i done got mad all over again... https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/7ee213326789da8c38cd6f48b38b83c0913d5380bd129361dd5ed666d29db102.gif

  • Kemi

    My condolences to you and your family.

  • Kimocha

    Yea ONE thing that bothered me about this man is that his kids could never call him Dad or Pops etc.... and would correct them too and say.... It's Joe..... Why Joe?? Wtf is up with that? For some reason that bothers tf out of me!