President Trump, Barack Obama

Democrats vowed to appeal a federal judge's ruling that will finally undo former President Barack Obama's signature healthcare law known as Obamacare.

In a stunning victory for President Donald Trump and Republicans, a federal judge ruled late Friday that the Affordable Care Act (ACA) was unconstitutional and will be abolished once and for all.

U.S. District Judge Reed O'Conner ruled late Friday that the Affordable Care Act was illegal because Congress eliminated the mandatory tax/penalty for failing to register for insurance in 2017.

But because O'Conner did not issue an injunction to immediately kill Obamacare, the law can continue to operate until his decision is appealed.

Key Democrats promised to appeal the judge's ruling all the way to the Supreme Court where 5 of the nine justices who saved Obamacare in a 2012 case are still on the bench.

The Supreme Court thwarted challenges to the law in 2012 and again in 2015. The 5 justices who saved Obamacare both times are still on the bench. It isn't clear if they will vote to protect Obamacare for a third time.

President Trump celebrated the judge's ruling that will make it easier to abolish and replace Obamacare.

"It's a great ruling for our country. We'll be able to get great health care," Trump told reporters on Saturday. "It was a big, big victory by a highly respected judge."

On Friday, he tweeted: "As I predicted all along, Obamacare has been struck down as an UNCONSTITUTIONAL disaster!"

Barack Obama took to Twitter.com on Saturday to remind his followers that it was time to sign up for health insurance, and he assured his supporters that his healthcare act would "likely" survive the judge's ruling.

President Barack Obama

  • Blue

    He need to focus on all these investigations and many more coming when the Dems take over the house in January.

  • Li-Wright

    Trump and the Republicans don't have a replacement....that's the big problem....what are you going to do in place of a flawed medical plan? " nothing "

  • ohdearme

    Interesting, nothing on the Russian spy that has agreed to spill her guts, nothing on Mueller's investigation ramping up with a direct link to Trump and Russia but this? The amount of people that could lose health insurance due to pre-existing conditions be damned. I can't today!

  • We Can Do This

    I'm sure they have a plan but the people it serves wouldn't be able to afford it.

    Health care should be universal. Tax payers pick up the tab for those you don't have health care anyways.

  • Phillybruh

    This plays right into the DEMS 2020, they won the midterms on healthcare. Time to wrap obamacare around the republicans neck and finally put them out of there misery, oh and thanks to this ruling TEXAS goes blue in 2020.

  • ClaireHuxtable

    ACA aint going nowhere. The Republicans can't agree on how to replace it! Citizens are not going to go back to having zero coverage. So Congress betta sit their butts down and figure out how to Improve the flaws in the ACA!

    BTW~ Why don't they seem to have a problem with the Drug law that Bush enacted? It's basically the same thing. Plus they wrote it into the law that this huge block of consumers can't even negotiate drug prices! If that isn't a clear signal to pharmaceutical companies to go haywire I don't know what is!

  • ClaireHuxtable

    That's exactly what I said. Who wants to go backwards to having pre-existing illnesses not being covered?

  • ClaireHuxtable

    L0l! Everything he's touched except his wife is being investigated! Oh I forgot...he prefers other women to his own wife. And when he tries to hold her hand for appearances, she bats him off.

  • bemetoo

    When can I sign up for Obamacare

  • Tinytoon

    Exactly, might as well be universal. Countries worst than ours have better health care.

  • Mr.LeBrickJames

    Thanks, Judge O'Connor. You basically just gave the 2020 elections to the Democrats.

  • Mr.LeBrickJames

    I agree. Every major industrialized country has universal healthcare (not to mention the many non-industrialized countries that have it). It's a disgrace that we don't have it here.

  • SpiceGirl

    TY

  • SpiceGirl

    And nothing on the women who accused Ole Twitter Fingers of abuse.....

  • https://www.facebook.com/app_scoped_user_id/YXNpZADpBWEZAJWUh0SHpCcnM4THZA5QjVOVGZAvb1dwdmFJandlOFdhaUMtQ3FaQVpQZA2h6bnQwd01wbUtyb1h1T0FYUVRKMUREZAmN3UWtQRkhGc2pYUnd0WFExdW9HbEwxX3VLc1NXRGJQ/ Michele Williams

    Most of Trump supporters are on Obamacare. Jokes on them.

  • sherri2016

    I wonder if he knows any other description words other than great and big

  • PhillyFacts

    Fake lol

  • ClaireHuxtable

    Veryvery huge.

  • iWasteTime

    His supporters still think ACA and Obama Care are different ?

  • pure_rachet

    I might be old school but when did it become ok to start a sentence (whole paragraph) with "but" lowercase? Sandra was rushing to put this "news" out today.

  • JENNYJONES1

    THINK YOU MISSED THE DEADLINE, DEC 15TH. GOOGLE IT THOUGH.......JENNY JONES!!!!

  • JENNYJONES1

    REPUBS AND DUMPSTER LISTEN OBAMACARE HAS MANY, MANY FLAWS AND I'M GLAD THE PENALTY LAW WAS TAKEN AWAY BUT DON'T COMPLAIN ABOUT SOMETHING IF AFTER 8 YRS YOU STILL, STILL DON'T HAVE A REPLACEMENT FOR IT..........JENNY JONES!!!

  • Prettybrowneyes

    Yes ???

  • GAPeach

    Beautiful is another one. A big beautiful wall, a beautiful piece of chocolate cake...

  • Itzgoingdown2

    If you look at the numbers and the rising cost of health care cost, it is not SUSTAINABLE including the ACA. Hospitals are being built that look like god damn mausoleums with scenic views..... ?Eventually, this countries healthcare will become a quasi government agency the same as the the post office. The Government has to run the unprofitable entities ie police, fire, military, post office and health care.

  • Renee26

    Yes he does.... Yuge

  • Kim’s Original Face

    Obama care was not affordable for me I ran those numbers just for me and my son. It was damn near 600.00 plus per month. You would have to be making damn near nothin or unemployed in order to get that healthcare for an affordable price. I just stayed with my jobs insurance.

  • Blue

    Boom. Just like that.

  • Renee Bee

    Biggly, covfefe and dotard. ?

  • Rhyme and Reason

    Poor white people will suffer the most, remain quiet and loyal!

    It was flawed, but I’ve never seen doctor offices so crowded. The parking lots full like never before.

    Black people will apply for and often qualify for medical assistance, urban cities have county clinics and hospitals, rural populations don’t have the same kinds of healthcare services, food pantries, and childcare assistance!

    Black people do work, contrary to white belief, and many have medical coverage, even as part-timers! If you don’t work, you may qualify for assistance, or if your insurance is exhausted, you can apply!

    Work for Amazon, FedEx, UPS, or the US Postal Service, just for benefits! Again, poor white people will suffer most because programs are State run! This is their loss!

  • http://sandrarose.com SandraRose

    Actually, the illegal immigrants -- who Obamacare was created for -- will suffer the most.

  • Logan Roberts

    My problem with Obama care has always been the mandatory tax penalty. Barack was foul for that one. Some folks can barely afford to put food on their table/pay for high azz rent or live pay check to pay check.

  • http://sandrarose.com SandraRose

    The cost was $600 a month for me alone. I used my insurance once in 2 years to pay for a MRI that would've cost me $400 if I had paid cash. The hospital charged my insurance $4,000 and I had to pay $1,500 of that out of pocket! I didn't renew my insurance after that. Now I pay cash for Emergency room visits, doctor's office visits, and medicine. I come out way cheaper than if I had insurance.

  • Around the world

    LOL They're dumb as rocks. I was arguing with one the other day, and he said he didn't need Obamacare because he has the ACA??

  • WHYJESUSWHY

    Universal Healthcare would be a disaster! The wait time for a PCP visit would be months. Physicians would quit due to not being able to make money from ''Fees for Service'' and everyone would receive the BARE MINIMUM of care due to the influx of patients. Not to mention tax payers will get an increase in taxes to offset the balance for the ingrates of society to receive the same healthcare that I work hard to pay for. People in other countries who have universal healthcare receive the BARE MINIMUM...

  • Nik

    LMBO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • Yardgirl

    Listen I was about to type this same damn thing!! I remember seeing a greasy hair, snaggle toof saltine talking sh*t about Obamacare and saying she just happy she had ACA instead. I weeped!!

  • Nik

    Breaking the numbers down like that makes it all the more frightening. How many people are going broke paying for coverage that could be satisfied out of pocket? *shudder*

  • Mr.LeBrickJames

    Some days it seems like the man has the vocabulary of an 8th grader. Sad.

  • Nik

    I think the quality of universal healthcare is something to consider. The adage "you get what you pay for" may very well apply.

  • Nik

    On a YUGE silver platter!

  • hottlanta

    Bye bye welfare special provision for coal miners with black lung disease. U can kiss those special welfare benefits goodbye.

  • WHYJESUSWHY

    Exactly, I work in a community hospital and the surgeons and primary care physicians say the same thing. If Universal Healthcare is brought to the United States, they will find a new profession. Not to mention the government will be in more debt, the quality of care will suck, and it just enables others to get free services that medicaid already pays for. I don't think an unemployed loser who willingly uses drugs and destroys their body should be the reason for an increase in my taxes. #SORRYNOTSORRY.

  • Mr.LeBrickJames

    The penalty of $695 per person per year was not huge, all things considered. The whole idea is that there had to be some reason to compel everybody to participate in some way, so that more people would be in the insurance "pool", to keep costs lower for everyone. Obamacare wasn't perfect, but it was a good first start that could have been improved upon. And it's way better than the Republican plan... which was really no plan at all and would have left a lot of people with no access to insurance.

  • shalynneb1

    Rat that is favorite word lately.

  • Scromes1212

    Lol welp he did say if he became president this would happen. Hopefully the republicans or the democrats in the house have a better alternative

  • Mr.LeBrickJames
  • jayhawkpride

    Someone else must be writing these posts, because I remember when this site rarely had typos and bad grammar. Now it happens all of the time!

  • chaisun

    His primary supporters. They’re so dumb they didn’t even know there was a difference between affordable care act and Obamacare before they voted.

  • chaisun

    I just said the same thing! They’re delusional. ?

  • Mr.LeBrickJames

    There are many European countries that have universal healthcare and the quality is just fine. A lot of people here (especially Republicans & conservatives) just like to spread a lot of horror stories about universal healthcare.

  • Scromes1212

    Liberals think everybody that doesn't agree with them are all dumb lol doesn't matter what the issue is smh

  • the guest

    THERE IS NO LOGIC, SENSE, REASONING, NOR INTELLIGENCE in disenfranchising people from the essential need and access to medical and dental care.

  • Scromes1212

    Countries with universal health care regulate it. We don't want to to that, that's part of the problem.

  • Music lover

    Can we have a post on this, the cons and pros of health insurance from your point of view? I would really like to understand this more. Thank you for the this information you have shared.

  • Nik

    I lived in the UK and had no problems with my healthcare, but that's because I was in a network funded by an elite institution and also had the means to go private. I was shielded from the issues that actually occurred in their national healthcare system which is not impressive, yet it is a lot cheaper than what we get in the US. Also, an interesting feature is the use different numbers to detect the onset of a condition so they are slower to put people on medication than here in the US. So here you may have hypertension whereas in the UK you may just be borderline and are not immediately put on medication.

  • Whirl

    This type of stuff bothers me so bad that I have to put it on the back burner for at least three days before I’m able to fully start assessing the situation. Otherwise my anxiety flares up.

  • Nik

    Which is why there should be a continued push for healthy living and a reason why I have been in support of Obamacare in principle. Making healthcare mandatory can help us avoid the issue you mentioned, but it has to be executed in a way that allows people to receive affordable and quality care.

  • Phillybruh

    If you got insurance you weren't penalized and there were even waivers for that.

  • http://sandrarose.com SandraRose

    It isn't necessary to belittle the blog owner for making typos. I see typos on CNN and other news websites all'a time. I just keep scrolling.

  • Phillybruh

    But why would you leave your jobs insurance for the pool. I don't even think that was allowed.

  • http://sandrarose.com SandraRose

    "The penalty of $695 per person per year was not huge,"

    That penalty didn't apply to those of us in the 35% tax bracket. We were forced to pay over $2,000 for not registering.

  • Mr.LeBrickJames

    Medicare for all would be a better solution. Even though we'd have to raise taxes to make it viable for the whole US population, the overall cost of healthcare would end up being less than with our current system.

  • Kim’s Original Face

    Whew thats tough auntie.

  • Kim’s Original Face

    I never said I was leaving I just wanted to see how much it would cost. And you can leave if you want to your not signing a contract. If I opted to take on the obamacare it would have started in jan. And I would have opted out of my employers insurance ?? Hope that clears that up

  • Kim’s Original Face

    Definitely need a post on that

  • Nik

    Unfortunate to say, but being sick is big business in America. To have everyone covered and healthy is counterproductive to a certain segment of society.

  • http://sandrarose.com SandraRose

    Hospitals here in Atlanta offer steep discounts (up to 50% off your bill) if you pay with cash or credit card. Insurance is not worth it for me.

  • Phillybruh

    I know we can only opt out of insurance with a job if your going on your spouses coverage or your using your VA benefit but I guess all companies are different.

  • Scromes1212

    Exactly

  • Nik

    I have a friend in ATL who is 60K in debt, partly because her doctor overcharged her and the insurance basically told her she should have done her due diligence before having the surgery. Now she is stressed beyond measure.

  • Whirl

    That’s weird anybody can opt out. Maybe if you could expand on that...

  • Whirl

    It should be noted that open enrollment is still underway despite the ruling. The ruling is bound to get challenged.

  • Rhyme and Reason

    True, them too, and not just Mexicans, I was floored with how much aid is given to various groups of illegals!

  • http://sandrarose.com SandraRose

    You could opt out of Obamacare but you couldn't opt out of paying the mandatory penalty tax. That's why Congress and a federal judge ruled the penalty was unconstitutional.

  • Rayne

    I just wanna see their sad ugly ass faces on the news when and if it does happen so I can make memes of them. Toothless azz rednecks.

  • Whirl

    Did you take a look at other providers under Obamacare like Kaiser? That should have never happened and I’m sorry that nobody took the time to explain the alternatives to you.

  • http://sandrarose.com SandraRose

    I shopped around. All of the prices were ridiculous for someone in my income bracket. I actually got the cheapest insurance: $600 a month. I save thousands of dollars per year now that I pay cash for my healthcare.

  • Rayne

    they just typing and don’t even know what they are saying. If you have a job with insurance THIS ain’t yo business lol

  • Whirl

    Sorry I think I didn’t explain myself aptly. There should never have been a situation in which you were in a double bind leading to you dumping your insurance. There are more affordable providers and in many cases the copay for the first year can be waived. I suspect you would have qualified. Did you apply?

  • TransMichelle

    Obamacare wasn't about shish. The clown Odumba is nothing but a puppet even out of office. I'll be back with some real news.
    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/ea23268a8fbafb19911421e2d6008f12660d1b6cdc2ddc865c7df7ead7b8c5a8.jpg

  • Phillybruh

    Actually you could avoid the tax and health insurance by only keeping the policy for as little as a month or two.

  • Mr.LeBrickJames

    The healthcare/health-insurance industry rakes in hundreds of billions of dollars a year in revenue. The current system is way more profitable for them than if the government were to step in and impose some form of universal healthcare. In the end, it always comes down the to money.

  • Whirl

    I’m just not able to really get what is going on. I remember seeing costs as low as $150 per month for a wide range of income brackets and that’s before qualifying to see if you can have the monthly cost waived for a year. I’m really sorry to hear that happened to you.

  • Whirl

    I’m starting to think the real problem is a better job should have been done explaining the program when it first rolled out.

  • Phillybruh

    The explanation was fine, the other party was just louder in their disgust of it.

  • Jefferey Franklin

    Soooo we are fine with Americans being denied coverage due to Pre Existing Conditions then? What about outlawing plans that pushed uninformed Americans into plans that actually offered plans for big premiums that didn't cover anything?

    But everyone is all for Trumps plan......that still hasn't been explained yet

  • Mr.LeBrickJames

    Thank you. The law wasn't perfect... but the GOP made sure to magnify the law's imperfections while downplaying (or ignoring) all the positives such as coverage for people with preexisting conditions, the mandated benefits for substance abuse and mental illness treatment, and also allowing young people to stay on their parents' policies until age 26.

  • Indies beauty

    I dont understand how they plan on replacing it if the repeal is not successful. I am a full time student working 3 part time jobs and none offer benefits. Lucky for me I graduate in May and will apply to what I call a "real job" but still.

  • Whirl

    What’s bizarre to me is the rural folks who continue to support President Trump despite leaning on Obamacare the most. At some point folks gotta decide which they want the most- healthcare or to be openly racist; you wanna be alive or you wanna be racist? Priorities!

  • Mr.LeBrickJames

    Many them just hated it because Obama's name was on it. If it was called AmeriCare instead of Obamacare a lot of those same people would have been all for it. Just ignorant.

  • Whirl

    Thankfully Obama has made it so you can stay on your parent’s insurance until your 25. Benefit goes away at 26 years of age. Also, depending upon what state you live in, there are many states that will provide additional financial assistance for healthcare.

  • EMILY POST

    The mandate was a big deal. The working people were bearing the burden with too many non working people receiving.

  • Indies beauty

    Im 28. Lol trust me. I was on it until I had to get my own. I was also working as a business manager with a nice benefits package but went back to school in a different city.

  • lovelygamour

    What these repubs dont get is obama is a white male. His mom is white and he was raised by her parents. Everything he did in office was geared toward them. If they read a good summary they would see aca helps them. my main home is in a black area and I dont need aca. Some of our preachers, teachers, and criminals are md's. I know a few churches that have licensed clinics and will give you a discount for community service.

    I paid $50 and saw a mexican doctor/teacher with mulitple degrees at 6 pm on a friday who gave me all the meds included in the price. His office is an old guard house.
    Most rural areas ran their drs away. These rural areas also dont have any catholics who are responsible for a lot of the charity hospitals. They dont even have 59.99 eyeglass shops. They dont realize how bad they have it.

  • VernadineTheQueen?

    Well I hope it do because I got a preexisying condition. I needs my insurance ppl to not be able to discriminate. One of the few things Obama accomplished that helps me. I still love them as black ppl for them being to make history!

  • Whirl

    Gotcha

  • lovelygamour

    Those pre existing condition people are the ones bashing obamacare. Its incredible. Before aca you had to
    A. Pay a huge premium.
    B. Lie and hide your illness.
    C. Always keep coverage cause any lapse causes you to go to A.
    D. Pay out of pocket. -A lot if people died this way.

    In a few states they had high deductable plans for people like this. Called last chance insurance. The deductible was 5-10 grand before insurance covered anything and it was expensive per month.

  • the guest

    Rural and poor whites depend on and utilize social service benefits and programs more than any other group but white poor racism drives their desire to suffer without the benefits and programs if that makes them feel superior to black poor.

  • lovelygamour

    They dont mind the rx law because they take tons of pills and
    Their children are pill heads. They can try different pills while The new pharmacy reporting system slowed their kids down.

  • lovelygamour

    Now ivanka is being investigated for overcharging hotel rooms for the inaugaration.

  • lovelygamour

    I would assume that you will be grandfathered in. The only problem would be if your state allows them to raise the price.

    For some things I pay out of pocket so insurance cant track me. Its worth it.

  • EMILY POST

    2018 we should call this the year of idiotic politics...
    So when the left gives you for the past three years some of the most underwhelming identity politicians that are against all black interest you have ever seen in your life...
    The Right tried to gives us people like Kanye West and Candace Owens... they need to hand them back over to the Democrats WTF...
    2019 we need better politics and politicians. When Horrible just meets WTF ... The Republican needs better black representation and the Democratic party needs some black representation.

  • Chaseboogie The Prince

    Trump loves to call something a 'disaster' if he didn't have his hands on it.

  • http://batman-news.com Roderick2011

    Some insurance companies consider pregnancy to be a pre-existing condition.

    How pro-life of them.

  • http://batman-news.com Roderick2011

    Where's Trumpcare?

    You know that $10/month healthcare plan.

  • Elevated Soul

    Bravo to this judge!!!...Obamacare is unconstitutional. This is what Obozo and The Alt-left overlook.

    You can't make it mandatory that people buy insurance and then make people pay a fine if they don't.

    People who are on welfare whether citizen are not are not paying anything into this but hard working Americans are paying triple and beyond the amount to fund these broke leeches.

    President Trump is trying to come up with a better plan.

  • http://batman-news.com Roderick2011

    They don't plan on replacing it.

    Never have. That was just a marketing ploy.

  • http://batman-news.com Roderick2011

    Exactly.

    The racism and hate in this country is off the chain.

  • http://batman-news.com Roderick2011

    They will blame Obama.

  • Phillybruh

    That's odd the politicians they have been grooming seem to have taken the house a few weeks ago.

  • Elevated Soul

    Don't they though????

    These libtards are as dumb as it gets but most have been brainwaahed to believe they are intelligent. ?????

    They don't even understand the basics of this ruling.

  • nick c

    It all comes down to costs not emotions.

  • WHYJESUSWHY

    Say it again! I shouldn't have my taxes raised or be expected to pay for SOME people who leech off the government's healthcare because I make a certain amount of money! You want to use drugs or do things that put your health at risk fine! But I shouldn't have my taxes or better yet have my healthcare which I work DAMN hard to pay for dubbed down to do so! The United States coddles ingrates.I grew up dirt poor with a heroin addicted parent, and I mean stomach touching my damn back poor okay! I also have a special needs child yet still have two jobs and pay for private healthcare. Yet some chicks whose only contribution to society is popping out kids they cant afford should have a free ride and I have to foot the bill! Hell to the Naw!

  • nick c

    Correct visa overstays from Asia (illegals) is a massive problem you wont hear that from either side.

  • ClaireHuxtable

    With a special provision of golf as physical therapy.

  • Whirl

    Insurance went up significantly more under George W’s administration. Why do we believe prices suddenly went up under Obama. Worse they have steadily continued to climb under President Trump. I’m not sure where the disconnect is coming from.

  • EMILY POST

    Obamacare was problematic from the start written by the insurance companies to bring young people in the pool of paying for insurance. But the incredibly dumb thing about Obamacare was it cancelled itself out because they didnt get more premiums from young people in college because they raised the age of being on your parents plan to 26... It was just an epic fail all the way around.

  • Whirl

    Simply opt out

  • EMILY POST

    ... George Bush wasnt perfect but Obama care put extreme pressure on small businesses and their premiums went through the roof to the point where some people would just rather pay the fine of not having insurance at all.

  • Whirl

    Perhaps we should do a year over year analysis of premium increases starting from George W to now. How is it that you have completely ignored the price increases under the current stable genius regime? Why do we think the price went up under Obamacare only?

  • Whirl

    We need more black women represented at all levels. The president has proven over and over that he primary only uplifts white males through promotions. It was no surprise the his new chief of staff is a white male. It seems he’s disinterested in promoting black women to the same degree.

  • ClaireHuxtable

    So what about Bush's Medicare prescription drug bill? How is it different?

  • Whirl

    The president has done a good job of instilling hatred in white males.

  • ClaireHuxtable

    The only 2 Black women he's probably ever trusted were Omarosa and his maid.

  • Whirl

    What is there to understand? The judge used a few underpinnings of the law to negate the entire thing. Poof!

  • ClaireHuxtable

    wtyte females too! Did U see the video of the woman hit & kicking on the subway?

  • ClaireHuxtable

    That's why so many on FoxNews call it 0bamacare with a hateful tone.

  • Whirl

    It is true. I remember very well how my insurance costs skyrocketed under George W.

  • http://sandrarose.com SandraRose

    Before Obamacare, my insurance premium cost $300 a month (which I thought was a lot). After Obamacare, my insurance premium doubled to $600 a month. How is that affordable?

  • Cannelle

    I live in a country with universal healthcare and none of that is true, so...

    (for the record, I work and also pay more tax due to my salary)

  • Cannelle

    They spread lies, but only those who don't investigate the subject fall for those lies.

    I live in a country with universal healthcare and most people that I know prefer it, most notably those who have lived in the USA; they prefer their system to (bar far) ours. And these are middle class and up earners who pay more tax and they STILL prefer their system. The republican lies can only go so far until the populace starts to see that everyone else has something they do, for no real reason.

  • Cannelle

    I live across the channel and I understand that while the UK system has some problems, it is still a better system than in the USA. This is only based upon people I've known who live(d) there.

  • Nik

    That's a fair statement. It's a racket here in the US!

  • Yardgirl

    I feel your pain. The people on the other side who openly opposed UHC did so without even fully understanding it. They then pulled it apart, sliced and diced and now fully put the blame on president Obama. It was no accident that they tagged his name to it and called it Obamacare (a name I refuse to use) It was a ploy to enrage the racists and even though they signed up for UHC, they refused to sign up for Obamacare **insert eyeroll** Fcuktards, all of them. I have been stomping for voter turn out at every election and I plan to quadruple my efforts in 2020!! Me and you we right >>>here<<< *high five*

  • Mr.LeBrickJames

    The disconnect is coming from simple misinformation. Many people stay in their little news bubbles like Fox News etc., so they're not really getting the full picture.

  • Cannelle

    I saw that mess. Apparently, she had a history of unruly public behavior. She will probably do it again. Being able to repeatedly cause mayhem in public and threaten other people is 6F privilege at its finest.

  • Cannelle

    Or Clinton.

  • Cannelle

    Don't leave out the illegals immigrants from (eastern) Europe. Won't hear much about that either.

  • Whirl

    Yep

  • Whirl

    I really think this may be a case of not being fully aware of all options available thereby falling into an unfortunate situation by default. If I knew you personally I would be happy to navigate you through the system. Really sorry to read about what happened to you. All the best! Love your blog.

  • Whirl

    Gurl you a mess lol

  • Lorenzo Chaps

    All I know is it's BS to be fined for not having insurance.

  • Whirl

    For those reading the lie that healthcare skyrocketed under Obamacare please arm yourself with facts. This handy chart shows how it was far worse under George W. You don’t have to believe deplorables just because they shout the loudest. Also, please take a moment to arm yourself with facts of the performance under President Trump. In a word- deplorable. He has some nerve even opening his mouth about it. https://www.factcheck.org/2015/02/slower-premium-growth-under-obama/

  • Mr.LeBrickJames

    "President Trump is trying to come up with a better plan."

    2 years he's been in office and he's still "trying to come up with" a better plan? No. He doesn't have a better plan.

  • hottlanta

    Gryl someone had me rolling when they said they rather have guns but no teef n that was teef with an f. I was done.

  • Rayne

    Of course lol it’s the only way.?

  • hottlanta

    He has been busy playing golf n tweeting. Like tillerson said he cant read.

  • Rayne

    Lmaooo they ain’t lying. Drinking that rat gut azz beer and home brewed moonshine ????

  • Elevated Soul

    Speak that truth!

  • EMILY POST

    The President could use some diversity in the staff choices. I wonder if there are a lot of candidates of color applying for the positions??

  • Elevated Soul

    The disconnect is on your end because you listen to Fake News. I deal with the facts,not fiction.

  • Whirl

    Listen- I was in my kitchen when I first heard the news that they were projecting insurance premiums would increase by 30 percent under George W. Then the news evolved to the premiums doubling over the next few years under W. Please don’t play me like one of these kids. I remember my pockets getting fleeced. Hard to forget folks coming for your pockets. When ya living a middle class life ya actually feel it.

  • EMILY POST

    What policy did George W implement that caused your policy to skyrocket? Are you sure it was a policy of George W Bush or your insurance company. Obamacare had a direct impact on premiums and Deductibles and coverage limits...
    It depends on what segment of the population. Obamacare directly skyrocketed small business premiums thats a fact also.

  • Whirl

    I’m having a serious “WTF” moment here. Did us have insurance under George W? The premiums went up so fast there is no way you could have forgotten it. Was you old enough to have insurance during that time?

  • EMILY POST

    I am watching Candace Owens and Russell Brand... Wow she is really really sad. Its like she took all the sandra rose Republican bloggers posts and twisted them... she goes in the same category as Commons Girlfriend on the Democratic side two very annoying black women on the opposite sides of the spectrum.

  • Whirl

    No excuse. It’s called talent acquisition. Tired of the “nobody is applying” excuse. The president is quick to throw black women from his own party under the bus. Did you see how he did Mia Love? I’m not a republican and I felt bad for that woman.

  • EMILY POST

    NO I am asking are you talking about a time frame or a specific policy that he backed that impacted your premiums.

  • EMILY POST

    I did not say that but I am asking if your are referencing the Time or the policy? If you are saying its a policy that he backed that impacted your premium I am asking you which one?

  • Whirl

    I’m not sure how there could be any confusion. Check out the chart to gain an understanding of how rates skyrocketed under Bush. I will NEVER forget it. https://www.factcheck.org/2015/02/slower-premium-growth-under-obama/

  • Whirl

    This is what my pockets remember- my insurance premiums doubling under George W https://ballotpedia.org/Fact_check/Did_healthcare_premiums_for_families_double_under_George_W._Bush%3F

  • EMILY POST

    Telling me your premium went up during a certain period okay. But it doesn't explain why it went up. The Why your saying the Why is George Bush.... I am simply asking you what policy did he back that caused it to go up? You have not told me.

  • Elevated Soul

    People with small minds are the ones that make it their business to critique others simply because they don't like what you write".

  • Whirl

    Here ya go- it delves into W’s Healthcare Reform Act. Any other questions I can help ya with? https://www.heritage.org/health-care-reform/report/examination-the-bush-health-care-agenda

  • Whirl
  • Whirl

    What happened to Rush Limbaugh Republicans. Yeah they may have been bigots and all but at least they kept my taxes low. Now we have a president that has blown the rough on the deficit and budget and Republicans could care less. What happened to your party?

  • Jethro

    Russian 2016 Influence Operation Targeted African-Americans on Social Media

    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/8c04d37e9d1abcc9d9febc48106f7b7bfdd3a0ab38bb921cca68942496e23d30.jpg
    Yevgeny Prigozhin, left, and the Russian leader Vladimir V. Putin, center, at a dinner in 2011. Mr. Prigozhin was indicted by American prosecutors for his involvement in interfering in the 2016 presidential election. Pool photo by Misha Japaridze.

    By Scott Shane and Sheera Frenkel

    Dec. 17, 2018

    The Russian influence campaign on social media in the 2016 election made an extraordinary effort to target African-Americans, used an array of tactics to try to suppress turnout among Democratic voters and unleashed a blizzard of activity on Instagram that rivaled or exceeded its posts on Facebook, according to a report produced for the Senate Intelligence Committee.

    Read the Article...

    Plenty of suckers here fell for it. ???

  • Whirl

    I actually like Candace Owens. I can’t conceive of how she contrives her notions of what a successful administration looks like but at least she’s smart, quick on her feet and articulate.

  • Whirl

    I actually like Candace Owens. I can’t conceive of how she contrives her notions of what a successful administration looks like but at least she’s smart, quick on her feet and articulate.

  • Whirl

    He sure did

  • Whirl

    He sure did

  • Whirl

    High five girl!

  • the guest

    He has a done an excellent job of manipulating white males of lower social strata into believing he cares about them and that he will reward them if they do his bidding. Look how his white male pawns are going to prison for him (Michael Cohen, the Charlottesville murderer, and countless nameless others who don't make the news).

  • Chicagowise

    I'm in healthcare. The more people with health insurance, the more money we make. They more money we make, the bigger my bonuses. However, creating a law that forces people to buy insurance and slapping them with fines if they don't, is unconstitutional. That mandate never should have been a part of that law, but the authors knew the bill had no teeth without it.

  • EMILY POST

    You gave me the Heritage study I will have to read what they wrote since you couldn't tell me anything but it went up. lol but at least you did come with a study that was done... I believe you when you say it went up.

  • EMILY POST

    https://youtu.be/F-OeKV1JZGI
    Candace Owens ... Clout chasing , grifter.
    She seems to like to go at the Black community a lot.

    I actually was more impressed with Russell Brand a lot better than her...

  • Whirl

    When was the last time you saw somebody go to jail for not having insurance?

  • dontgetblocked

    I don't know why ANYBODY thought Obamacare was free. We as a people are so uneducated. Nobody should be forced to buy healthcare and that's what Obamacare did.

  • ClaireHuxtable

    Ridiculous. She needs to meet the right person then she'll stop doing that cr@p.

  • ClaireHuxtable

    Another Common Ex. I read they broke up.

  • Elevated Soul

    You are so dumb.

    Do you see anything in his statement that even speaks of jail?

  • Whirl

    Opt out. Simple.

  • Whirl

    Let’s walk through this step my step. Let’s put on our thinking cap first, mmkay? Step one- what is the inference of one breaking the law?

  • dontgetblocked

    Obamacare was a tax law. If you opted out...you were fined.

  • dontgetblocked

    THEY WERE FINED!!!

  • dontgetblocked

    Obamacare is a good summary of Obama's presidency. A HOT SLOPPY MESS!!! Thank God for President Trump.

  • dontgetblocked

    Then they show up at the welfare office, sitting on the floor with their baby and fighting the police...despite having warrants on their ghetto azzes. So tired of paying for fertile entitled losers. Get a damn job.

  • dontgetblocked

    Then they show up at the welfare office, sitting on the floor with their baby and fighting the police...despite having warrants on their ghetto azzes. So tired of paying for fertile entitled losers. Get a damn job.

  • dontgetblocked

    26 is too old to be on your parents insurance. Grow the hell up and pay your own bills. I know some people who got knocked up on their parents insurance and the parents had to pay for prenatal care. Ridiculous.

  • dontgetblocked

    26 is too old to be on your parents insurance. Grow the hell up and pay your own bills. I know some people who got knocked up on their parents insurance and the parents had to pay for prenatal care. Ridiculous.

  • Judge Mental Will

    Im the President but im also a BIG FAT WHINY BABY! If I dont get my way I'm going to SHUT DOWN THE GOVERNMENT! Why? Because Im BHITCH and I'm PUTIN BHITCH!

  • Candie P

    But aren't you forced to have Car insurance? without it you face penalties and go to jail. Your car shouldn't take precedence over your own health.

  • Candie P

    His plan is to wipe America clean of Obama's legacy, even if it means killing people unintentionally.

  • http://batman-news.com Roderick2011

    But people like being able to keep their children on their insurance until they are 26 and banning pre-existing conditions but guess what?

    The only way to pay for those two goodies *which Republicans support) is for everyone to buy insurance

  • http://batman-news.com Roderick2011

    Of course.

    Right here on this blog we were treated to social engineering by the blog hostess, but no one wanted to listen to me.

  • http://batman-news.com Roderick2011

    Well the only way to pay for being able to keep your child on your insurance until 26 and not rejecting people who had pre-existing conditions is maximize the risk pool so............

  • http://sandrarose.com SandraRose

    Only if you have a car. Obamacare is like forcing people without cars to buy car insurance and taxing them if they don't.

  • http://batman-news.com Roderick2011

    The Republicans have had ten years yet no plan because they don't care.

  • http://batman-news.com Roderick2011

    Don't waste your time with that troll.

    She's immune to facts....just block.

  • http://sandrarose.com SandraRose

    That's why it was unconstitutional. Insurance is not a tax because insurance is not a government institution.

  • Whirl

    The law allows you to apply for an exemption

  • Whirl

    There are over a dozen reasons for avoiding the fine through exemptions. Anywho that’s no longer an issue as of 2019. https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2018/04/24/605007498/4-new-exemptions-to-the-tax-penalty-for-lacking-health-insurance

  • Psychic Lulu

    There are certain requirements and it's only for 1-2 months out the year. No annual exemptions. Pay a percentage of your income as a penalty or sign up for the cheapest plan which has the highest deductibles. Shit is laughable

  • Whirl

    Now you are just making things up. I was no Obama fan but I’m not just gonna sit back and let folks lie on the guy. The law clearly states “at least” not “within the scope of...” https://www.cms.gov/CCIIO/Resources/Regulations-and-Guidance/Downloads/2018-Hardship-Exemption-Guidance.pdf

  • Whirl

    You know...I tried to be nice by citing a republican friendly think tank but I see I just can’t win with you. Quite frankly unless you can get me reimbursed for republicans ripping me off there’s nothing left for me to add. Can you do that?

  • http://sandrarose.com SandraRose

    Explain please.

  • elroy

    Sandra is correct, it has nothing to do with an unfortunate situation. If you talk to with anyone making 6 figures or more, they'll tell you the same.

  • elroy

    This is great news, most just don't understand. Free market healthcare isn't perfect, but it's the best solution. If you're under employed or unemployed, of course this is bad news.

  • Whirl

    I agree. Obamacare was a bandaid. Time to stop pussyfooting around and get universal healthcare instituted.

  • Whirl

    One could make a long shot argument that it’s in the best interest of the general populace given it costs everybody to cover the uninsured when they pop up in the emergency rooms therefore making law in the interest of the public good. And by “good” I mean the Jeremy Bentham version of the good...utility.

  • elroy

    Universal Healthcare is a terrible idea, I know from first-hand experience. It sounds good in theory, but the side-effects are devastating.

  • Whirl

    How is it sensible for anybody making six figures to be without health insurance in the first place which would be the first cause of being subjected to a penalty. Where is the logic?

  • Whirl

    Suggestions? Looks like they are doing A-okay with it even in third world countries.

  • http://sandrarose.com SandraRose

    As a nurse who took care of uninsured patients, Obamacare was a waste of money. Uninsured patients go to Grady Hospital in Atlanta. They are not treated any differently from insured patients.

  • Whirl

    My mom who died of breast cancer would beg to differ. The treatment was nothing short of disgusting totally lacking human compassion.

  • http://sandrarose.com SandraRose

    The point is to get insurance when you need it. I don't need insurance so I don't have it. What's the point in forcing people to buy car insurance when they don't own a car?

  • elroy

    They're actually not doing A-okay in third world countries, you just haven't looked deeper into it. My suggestion is open-market healthcare. It's not perfect, but it's the best solution at this moment

  • Whirl

    Oh Sandra I really do hope you never get caught up in a pre existing condition mess that you might presently be unaware of. I like your blog and hope to see you around for a long time. I sincerely hope you reconsider your decision to take go without health insurance.

  • elroy

    ....You have no idea what you're talking about, and I gain nothing by explaining it

  • Whirl

    Well I’m gonna agree to disagree. I’ve paid close attention to the topic for at least the last 14 years. The number of americans making trips to those countries for healthcare speaks for itself.

  • http://sandrarose.com SandraRose

    I'm sorry for your loss.

  • elroy

    There's a difference between traveling to a country, versus living there paying taxes

  • Whirl

    In communist countries like Cuba there are no taxes. Huh!?

  • Whirl

    Heartfelt thanks. She was a beautiful woman inside and out. After over 20 years I continue to mourn her everyday. She could never be replaced.

  • Whirl

    As a former business owner I think I got a pretty good idea

  • http://sandrarose.com SandraRose

    I have several preexisting conditions for which I take medications. I pay for my doctor's visits and medications out of pocket. I still come out cheaper paying out of pocket than if I had insurance, which cost $600 a month.

  • Whirl

    I trust you know what’s best for you

  • elroy

    Being a former business owner explains nothing, I'm not sure what tax bracket you were in

  • elroy

    I'm not sure if you're joking... I'm curios, do you anything about the economy of Cuba?

  • Whirl

    Whelp in my humble opinion they remind me of people from my dad’s generation- people who are poor but don’t know they are poor. I can’t imagine what it must be like to walk down the street at night in a poor community and not have to be worried about getting victimized. It is the American way after all. Anywho, beautiful people and I’m really looking forward to getting down their to meet them. There are lots of reasons that our country has for citizens wishing to visit. I’m thinking about getting in a lecture on their culture while there and signing up for dance lessons. That’s pretty much all I need to get permission to visit if my understanding of the restrictions are correct. Greatly admire the education rate of their people!

  • Marya

    All I know is socialism is not a workable system anywhere, especially not America.

  • elroy

    I've been to Cuba twice, and I respect your viewpoint. Cuba is a great place to visit, but the economy is another issue. The embargo has little effect on the true issues that place the country. In all honesty, I wish we could provide quality healthcare for everyone, but that's not realistic. In order to offer world class health care services, cost plays an important role in quality health care services delivered. Physicians, diagnosticians, surgeons, and others linked to medical care cannot work without being paid for their services. One of the primary reasons why free health care wouldn’t work in the US is its sheer population size.

  • Whirl
  • elroy

    ok, we can agree to disagree

  • Whirl

    There are countries with universal healthcare that made the list of best healthcare systems in the world. Belgium for example https://nordic.businessinsider.com/the-16-countries-with-the-worlds-best-healthcare-systems-2017-1/

  • MRiGOThim

    They just want to remove pre-existing conditions so insurance companies can save billions don't let them fool ya'll :(

  • elroy

    Belguim has one of the highest tax rates, along with most countries that offer universal healthcare. There's a reason why most countries don't have universal healthcare, because the cons outweigh the pros. One of the biggest reasons why universal healthcare won’t work in the US is that there’s no way it can work without severely restricting reimbursements to healthcare practitioners. We can look to Medicare and Medicaid as examples of this process already in motion. It’s also the reason why we have inflation, too much inflation means that the government loses control of the currency. Realistically, the government will need to collect roughly 62% more in taxes than they are right now

  • Whirl

    Surprising coming from one with a Russian background. Isn’t Russia communist? I’m not knocking it. I think there are a lot of great things to say about Karl Marx just seems surprising given your background.

  • Marya

    No, it used to be communist. It’s capitalist today, but very corrupt.

  • Whirl

    Seems like when Americans say we are a democracy despite the constitution specifically stating we are a republic.

  • Marya

    Yes Russia has big corruption problems for sure.

  • Whirl

    For every example you give I can offer a counterpoint. Let’s start with Japan which by the way has one of the highest life expectancies in the world https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Health_care_system_in_Japan

  • elroy

    Japan is successful for a number of reasons, which allows them to have universal healthcare. You're literally typing your arguments into google, and just posting links to back your claims. Do you realize that the U.S is like 25 times the size of Japan? I'm not looking to debate or be rude, but you haven't actually delved into this subject matter. I could sit here and post numerous links as well, but it's pointless.

  • Whirl

    Nooooo lol. I’m typing my thoughts based on years of interest in other cultures. But thanks for snooping a look at my logs lol. The links are to provide details on views first expressed by yours truly.

  • elroy

    ...You didn't actually state your case, you simply posted links. I can literally type "anything" into google, and find an article to back up my claims. You used Japan as an example, even though the U.S is much larger. Lets just say you're right and I'm wrong, we can agree to disagree

  • http://batman-news.com Roderick2011

    The mere fact that you post stories about gay men and lesbians (99% of them negative) and transgender reinforces the negative stereotypes of gay people that you know most of your posters have.

  • Whirl

    The entire point here is Universal Healthcare is doable. That is the only point I’m hoping to get across. You are under the impression that I type anything into google based on you snooping a look at my weblog. That of course limits you to the information you have at hand without regard to information in my brain. With all due respect suspect you greatly over estimate your take on the issue which leads you down the road of assuming I’m a google for facts type of person. But it’s all good. Nice chatting with you. Best!

  • EMILY POST

    Not a Republican but I wasn't even being sarcastic.

  • Solstice

    I am truly sorry for your loss Whirl. I cannot imagine. ??

  • dontgetblocked

    They got it passed as a tax law and since it's no longer a tax law...it's unconstitutional.

  • EMILY POST

    lol

  • EMILY POST

    lol

  • EMILY POST

    hey i saw that heritage foundation article. good info

  • EMILY POST

    hey i saw that heritage foundation article. good info

  • jayhawkpride

    You are absolutely right. I wasn’t trying to belittle you or your blog. I was just making an observation.

  • TransMichelle

    You are right. That's why when Odumba rolled out "Odumbacare" those in Congress and other political "high positions" were exempt from the program. They didn't have to take it. They knew how bad it was. Not only that, the person who helped designed the program said "if the people really knew what Odumbacare really is they would raise hell." Or something to that effect. Odumbacare was a way to get more taxes from the people.

  • TransMichelle

    That's it. Odumba's presidency was a total disaster and now The Donald has to clean up the fallout including all the corruption and criminality that Odumba was also a part of. That's why Mueller is all bothered under the collar because he's part of the corruption and they want to get rid of The Donald as soon as possible as he's spilling the beans on their azzes.

  • TransMichelle

    Grow up! You and others like you whine just like the leftist-libtard-white liberals that you follow who are destroying this country. I don't find Sandra posts 99% negative posts about the LBGQUTQOZZWTF community. People have different opinions. The majority of the population disagree with this perverted lifestyle. So go in your corner and suck your thumb or in other words "suck it up."

  • TransMichelle

    They always whining. This is how the leftist libtards act. They have no intelligent means of coping with their inferiority complexes so they attack to try to make the other person feel guilty. They need to grow up!

  • http://batman-news.com Roderick2011

    Socialism is where we are headed because people all over thee globe seem to be disillusioned with globalism (global capitalism).

    BTW I guess you missed the economic meltdown in 2008.

  • http://batman-news.com Roderick2011

    If you have health insurance you ARE paying for someone else's health care.

  • Whirl

    If you say that you didn’t scan/monitor my activities I take you at face value. At any rate I had fun debating you and enjoyed hearing about your experience visiting Cuba. Lucky you!

  • TransMichelle

    Schiff explains the situation perfectly and clearly about the Odumba tax. It's worth a listen. I started the video at 22:00 because it goes directly to the reasons why Odumba care doesn't, can't, didn't, and won't work and why it's completely unconstitutional in easy to understand language.

    https://youtu.be/vAa2HcjSTvU?t=1330

  • Soon2BWife

    I wish they’d make up their mind. Administrativly it has created tons of work that may or may not matter. I have to approve, explain, mail, answer redundant questionscabout 1095’s that essentially mean nothing other than people should keep it with their taxes in the event they are audited. However, because now the penalty for not having credidible medical insurance is $0 dollars it doesn’t even matter. ?????

  • Whirl

    Yeah if anything I think that has been the core problem with Obamcare- it wasn’t effectively communicated from the beginning making it easy for anyone to spin it. Got keep information to pregnated, nice, short, chunky segments. Folks like to keep it simple. They didn’t do a great job rolling it out.

  • elroy

    Likewise, I enjoyed the dialogue. Enjoy your evening