Destiny's Child, Mathew Knowles, R Kelly

Music manager Mathew Knowles, father to pop singers Beyonce and Solange Knowles, said he and his then wife Tina Lawson kept a close watch over the group Destiny's Child when they met with R. Kelly in 1998.

R. Kelly is making headlines thanks to Lifetime's Surviving R. Kelly, a six-hour docu-series that aired last week. The documentary analyzed sexual abuse allegations against the 52-year-old singer/songwriter by multiple women.

Beyonce's former group Destiny's Child met with Kelly to discuss a potential collaboration when the girls - Beyonce, Kelly Rowland and then-members LaTavia Roberson and LeToya Luckett - were 15 or 16 years old (Beyonce was rumored to be 18 at the time).

Many in the music industry were aware of rumors of Kelly's unsavory reputation and his alleged predilection for underage girls.

"I was there, and my former wife Tina was there," Knowles told Metro.co.uk. "When they went to the bathroom, Tina would go with them. They did not leave our eyes."

R. Kelly, real name Robert S. Kelly, reportedly married the late singer Aaliyah when she was only 16. Kelly worked with her on "Age Ain’t Nothing but a Number".

He also worked with other artists, Kelly Price, Sparkle, and Ciara. But despite reported pressure from the singer's management at Sony, Knowles said he passed on a collaboration for his up-and-coming group.

"The thing with R. Kelly was, he liked to record late at night, around midnight," the 67-year-old continued. "And what was different with his studio was that one room had a recording suite, and next door was a club, with 40 or 50 people dancing."

"I personally rejected the song, because I didn't think it was a good song," he said of the track for the group's debut album. "Not just because of (his) reputation - this was around 1998, we had just begun to hear some of those things."

According to editors at Metro.co.uk, a source confirmed Knowles' account, adding that R. Kelly "made several requests" to work with Destiny's Child.

"Mathew and Tina rejected all of them because they didn't want him anywhere near the band which is why they are one of the few acts to debut in the 90s without an R. Kelly song in its official discography," the source added.

Beyonce's dad confirmed "it was both" a combination of R. Kelly's reputation and the business differences that put him off.

WENN.com confirms the group did record an R. Kelly song, "Stimulate Me", for the soundtrack of 1999 movie Life, but the "I Wish" singer was not present in the studio when it was recorded, and the song never appeared on any Destiny's Child albums.

Beyonce has also never personally worked with R. Kelly in her solo career.

Photo by Marcus Hoffman/WENN.com

  • RedBullWoke

    But Jay Z got through...

  • Kim’s Original Face

    Good job Matthew

  • VernadineTheQueen?

    He should have guarded them. The parents of the young girls that got caught up should have done the same. I have 2 daughters and ain’t neither one of the going to doung anything under the age 18 I do not approve of and know about it. If a man is grown stepping to my child I’m getting the police involved ASAP! Not compromising shyt!!

  • Mbee

    My only concern is beyonce looks way different now then before too different

  • TRUTHbeabsolute

    Yet he had a baby with a teenie-bopper.

  • Ang

    Bey got her work done gradually so it wasn’t as noticable until you see old photos.

  • Dahl

    Good for them for being so attentive. But I noticed that shade against Beyonce, “rumored to be 18 at the time” ??

  • wonderwoman

    I wish the parents of the victims would have done the same. Things have been out there about R. Jelly for over 20 years, he could of been stopped long ago.

  • Bri

    Matt should trail lightly. There’s some similarities between him & R. Kelly.

  • Coy little wink

    Matthew was very savvy plus he looked like he would beat some azz in a heartbeat I'm not surprised

  • LYRICS

    And here comes slimmer climbing outta of his hobo hut to sling isht at Kells…...don't u have a young child gramps that you need to chase after?

  • Ni Ni

    I'm no DC/Beyonce fan, but out of the times i remember them being at events, etc., I always saw Matthew or Tina.

    On the flipside of that. I'm sure the girls had their moments when they did sneak away (like most of us), but at least it seems like they did a better job of chaperoning than some others.

  • jeniefrumdabloc™

    Pot meet Kettle ... Bye ....... Cause I know da truth bout yo Fam Matthew .... demons https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/42a9d3335215d25e2e38d2675ee8ea041306d174d04056715b140c58374d1175.gif

  • HotInCleveland

    You already know Matthew and Tina were not playing when it came to their daughters. This doesn’t surprise me.

  • hi-liter

    That’s what a real father does. A few of those young underage girls who fell victim to Kelly had a two parent household, specifically with weak azz fathers. Kelly could spot weaknesses in money hungry azz parents and their daughters.

  • leapyearpisces

    Never been a fan of Beyonce', but gosh! she was so gorge back then, due to that nose, IF that is a nose job and not her real nose, she should have stopped it right there.

  • Victorious82

    I remember them messing around with Jagged Edge members back then.

  • Ang

    1) We know R. Kelly is trash. 2) Matthew is trying to get in the headlines.

    I’m not giving Matthew a round of applause for this. If he were really as concerned about the girls being around R. Kelly he wouldn’t have taken then to work with Kelly at all. If the song was good he wouldn’t have rejected it. This is what’s annoying me about all these people in the industry trying to distance themselves from R. Kelly now. They all knew back then but weren’t bothered if they could make money from R. Kelly but want to pull songs he wrote now. They’re fake. Gaga was just grinding on R. Kelly on stage a few years ago when performing their hit song but is pulling the song from streaming services to support victims as if she didn’t know back then. Just say you didn’t care. Or better yet, stop talking altogether because they’re all full of it.

    I don’t need Matthew to tell me R. Kelly is a problem. The more important topic for Matthew is why he was cool with his teenage daughter being around Jay who is 11 years older than her and was known to be a player (among other things). I really want to know how Matt feels about the daughter he groomed for years to be the polished, respectable R&B princess of this generation swinging on stripper poles, gyrating in a thong on stage and singing about getting a Monica Lewinsky in a limo.

  • Dem Moore

    So you dont have to prostitute your daughter for her to have a career....sounds about right.

  • Tee Bullock

    agreed!

  • Logan Roberts

    Matthew is such a hypocrite.

  • 9 Mind

    WENN.com confirms the group did record an R. Kelly song, "Stimulate Me", for the soundtrack of 1999 movie Life
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    Them girls were teenagers in 1999. Talking bout some damn Stimulate Me. SMH
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  • CaramelDrop

    That’s a demon! If there is a way - they will blow the doors down.
    I wish she would’ve stayed with her daddy. Jay Z has been involved with each and every dollar she makes!
    He has big hands and a bigger nose so I know why she chose Jay-Z over errrrrrbody ?

  • Rayscoty

    None of them was Robert type... Mathew should've been watching Sean Carter...

  • Tee Bullock

    Gramps lmmfao I thought I was the only 1 that said that word!

  • http://batman-news.com Roderick2011

    Isn't that the implication people are making when they claim that Jay Z started dating Bey when she was still a teenager?

  • SweetTEE

    But we already know the story of how Jay got Bey though... her uncle been said that Bey was NOT attracted to Jay and that Jay and Matthew decided on the relationship as a business move. FOH.

  • Well$$Well$$?

    Why is he giving interviews about this lol... At least he didn't throw all caution and common sense to the wind because of R Kelly's celebrity.

  • Coy little wink

    Well that's what marriage really is when you really get to the bottom of it...

    Bible thumpers keep scrolling if the truth hurts you...

  • Ni Ni

    I read they used to party when they got away..

  • Blak

    But yet a teenage Beyonce became prey for Jay Z after he screwed teenage Aaliyah and Solange was a teenage mother to an older guy. Nice try but y'all still couldn't stop your kids from screwing grown ass men

  • http://www.id820534.sexylfx.website Readytochokemothernatureout

    He must've grew lenient later....

  • SweetTEE

    Don't you start no mess today!!!! You keeping talking that real ish and all hell gon break loose lol.. Matthew made one hell of a business deal with that one!

  • Love Luv

    The point is he at least tried. WELL. You can’t stop everything but he certainly gave af. https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/d547a505d46e93ca657880e5f8dc9f13304d1556cfaa62334fdfad0a710300c4.gif

  • Tlowe89

    Those were responsible parents... they wasn’t there for no foolery and wasn’t in a position where Kelly was their meal ticket to stardum.... side note.... I see you Matthew.... I see you.... trying to get 2 min of fame again

  • Victorious82

    Cuz teens gonna do what they want. Nobody can be watched 24/7

  • Phillybruh

    If that song was fire they would have been there recording at midnight, he just would have had too be with them. But kudos to him for recognizing his issues.

  • Ni Ni

    Yeah, he sold them out in other ways tho...

  • Ain’t Misbehavin

    So where yo axx was at when Jay was lingering around... you know what nevermind. ::scrolls up to read::

  • Tlowe89

    Yea he knew those people saw him as a meal ticket and he knew he could manipulate the situation to his benefit and that’s what happened and when they 100% lost their daughters and stopped getting the hush money or private perks they start crying about “we didn’t know this was happening and I’m so shocked he’s a monster” no he was a monster all along but the difference is they were being wined and dined so they let ish slide

  • Ni Ni

    Right, i know i did. ?

  • cherrypie

    I aint mad at Matthew although he did let Jay-Z slide through. But, y'all can say what you want...they have been married for 10+ years with 3 children. Beyonce could have been a pass around without Matthew watching out for the and DC could have been one of Kells victims.

  • Ain’t Misbehavin

    I wasn't gone say nothing, but a lot of industry men passed on Bey because she has/had bad breath/body odor.... and imma leave this right here!

  • GAPeach

    Kudos to him for looking out for his children. Someone should have been looking out for Solange's friend he impregnated. He's throwing stones at a glass house.

  • Myopinion

    She was of age when she got with Jay-Z. Most women want older men when they are young, they see it as stability.

  • cherrypie

    Damn...lmao.... always thought that was just a rumor

  • Ebony Starr

    Well, he and his wife were there watching Destiny's Child and forgot that they had another child at home, with nobody protecting her.

  • Ni Ni

    I forgot about poor solange, yeah she probably felt neglected.

  • tia

    During one of Jamie Foxx stand-ups back in the day he said her breath was horrible. I think this was the time they did Dream Girls.

  • what?why

    Tina liked Jay Z and Mathew was hesitant toward him.

  • Skin Deep Beauty

    Matthew need to STFU...SOMEBODY SHOULD HAVE WATCHING over his NASTY, CHEATING AZZ WHILE HE WAS PHUXING, CHEATTING AND MAKING BABIES WITH HIS DAUGHTERS FRIENDS,... FOH

  • what?why

    Nope it was Tina and she was around all the time at the beginning of the relationship. Look at clips.

  • tia

    RKelly's reputation proceeds him. This was a cognizant parenting.
    That's why I'm trying to figure out why these parents in the documentary would introduce and serve their daughters on a platter to a known predator. Why? Because they saw dollar signs.

  • iWasteTime

    I'm confused by the questions about her husband.
    She was a whole adult when they got together.
    2019 is the 20th anniversary of our 18th birthdays.

  • Rayne

    Just sitting here wondering/thinking. Ain’t no flukking way imma LET a man have tgat much control over me. When I say I’m leaving I AM GONE!
    I guess I’m trying to see how could they all keep falling in that hole ? when it clearly had caution written on it.

  • Myopinion

    She may have just ate something that made he breath stink

  • Rayne

    You know I sholl heard that many times too?

  • iWasteTime

    18 and if you believe sandra she was 22 in 1999

  • jeniefrumdabloc™

    Money smh

  • Myopinion

    Chile Please...they wish they could have had Beyonce', you sound like a hater continuing with that rumor that was apparently started by an insecure person.

  • Ain’t Misbehavin

    Well then she ALWAYS just ate something that made her breath stink bc folks from 50 and Nas on down have made comments about it.

  • Topic Influencer

    Who was keeping an eye on YOUR ASS Matt? During this meeting? You sneak away and go take a peek? Your ass getting the side eye too bc it has come to light that your baby mama was Solange fren. How old was she when you first started knocking her down?

    Shoulda just sat your ass there and ATE YOUR FOOD.

  • U gon learn today

    Stop lying. Beyonce married Jayz at the age of 24, five years after their off and on courtship. Now do the math. Matthew ran a tight ship when it came to watching over his daughter and her underaged band mates and you gotta respect him for that. Now what Beyonce does when she is LEGAL and GROWN is her own business.

  • RedBullWoke

    That's what they told the public luv. Everyone in the industry knows he's been dating her since she was 16.

  • TriniHarlem

    I'm almost certain idgaf but OK Mat

  • what?why

    ask Tina

  • Ain’t Misbehavin

    I said imma leave this right here, take from it what you will.

  • Topic Influencer

    Girl. Smh

  • Myopinion

    That's a "she ain't all that' move cause they couldn't get with her. She wasn't a celebrity pass around chic

  • Myopinion

    But she was of legal age to make her own decision and she didn't get treated like r Kelly did those lil girls

  • Myopinion

    Proof

  • Dun Dilly

    Good Parenting

  • U gon learn today

    “Everyone in the industry knows...”

    But you ain’t in the industry. And according to the gossiping hyenas (particularly on this site) she has been lying about her age and is really 45. So that would mean she was actually closer to 30 when she started dating Jay-Z, correct?

  • SweetTEE

    I'm only going by what her uncle put on blast. And Matthew was the real mastermind of that group.

  • Karen Brady

    LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO.

  • Myopinion

    I see what you HEARD or Read seals the deal on your belief of her. I hope no one ever spread a rumor about you then.

  • Ain’t Misbehavin

    I see I'm clearly not your audience and I'm cool with that, let's agree to disagree for the remainder of the day.

  • Wreckognize Game

    The father that let his 17 yr old go on stage with Robert was stupid. PERIODT

  • Fire & Ice

    You're right. When he was facing those charges in mid two thousand, I read an article that stated this. It said that he was attracted to prebubesent girls. The girl who looked 12, not to physically developed, with glasses, and ponytail. He was not attracted to girls that looked like grown women.

  • Myopinion

    Obviously Solange's friend was of age...don't make it right but does make it legal

  • Judge Mental Will

    Other parents pretended to be blind because they wanted fortune and fame! Good for cheating as Mathew Knowles! Terrible husband! Great Dad!

  • What???

    You gotta watch your kids around men like R. Kelly and women like his sexual molesting sister who create his sick behavior.

  • Myopinion

    I never agree to disagree, I call out lies and made up accusations that's made with no foundation or proof

  • tia

    That's what I'm talking about. Don't get me wrong, there were definitely some victims. But then, some of these folks are full of shit. I'm 45 years old now and I have known for years RKelly has a wicked stronghold for little girls. I was 25 years old and married to my then "X" when that tape of the 14 year old was released (about 1998 maybe).
    So, I'm sorry all these folks have not been living under a rock. Young minor girls are RKelly's "krptonite." Those parents knew what time it was.

  • What???

    Look at Tina and be honest. You have to cheat on that.

  • Trace da Ace

    yeah....I searched for a Fukkk to give on this...and nerp...did not find one...sooo...see yall upstairs.

  • Wreckognize Game

    I think Robert was trying to have girls the way Akbar from LHH had women. If 17 is legal age and they wanted to stay they probably cannot charge him but it is just sad all the way around.

  • Myopinion

    Boom

  • Myopinion

    Please tell us...please

  • U gon learn today

    Jay-Z hasn’t wrote one song.
    Jay-Z hasn’t performed not one choreography step.
    Jay-Z ain’t sang one note.
    Jay-Z ain’t distributed one record.
    Jay-Z ain’t managed one contract for Beyonce.

    Beyonce worked hard on her own to get where she is. Her and her husbands careers were always separate until they decide to collaborate on a song or album which all artists do.

  • Myopinion

    Trust and believe some other stuff gone hit the fan about some of those parents turning a blind eye for money.

  • tia

    Agreed!

  • jeniefrumdabloc™

    I just did demonic ... (demons)

  • RICHIE_RICH

    Right...... ???????????????????? ??

  • Wreckognize Game

    Him getting these girls at 17 then they are legal at 18 somehow ties back to let me marry Aaliyah because if she is my wife they can’t do anything.

  • tia

    absolutely!

  • Myopinion

    Well that's what sales records... she would be doing it if she was with him too by now.

  • Dem Moore

    Aren't facts and implications different things. Regardless I dont think jay z married beyonce so that she wouldn't be able to testify against him in a court of law one day. I'm almost sure beyonces uncle dident introduce her to jay at 12 the same year jay just settled three cases involving statutory rape. Honestly theres a difference between and man who loves a younger woman and a child predator. We know for fact they were using that little gurl so that they could profit.

  • Skin Deep Beauty

    Remember Bey Jay and Bow Wow Cierra was out together and Jay tried to call Co pissy and Bow Wow replied of yeah your girl breath smell like shit!

  • Judge Mental Will

    Lol Tina not ugly lol yes they both aged but they still look good

  • GAPeach

    I honestly don't care if it was legal. Not all of Kellz victims were underage. He used the allure of giving her a career, the same as R. Kelly. He was also old enough to be her daddy. He has no room to talk.

  • Tell the truth

    Beyoncé looked so humble and different back then ,money changes people .

  • Ain’t Misbehavin

    I blocked Myopinion, it's gotta be a child, I wouldnt bother...

  • Ain’t Misbehavin

    Noooo I don't remember hearing that! OMG

  • http://realitytea.com/ Lady Chatterley’s Lover

    The ONLY difference between RKelly and other pedophiles is him trying to "cage a bird" instead of keeping it moving. SAD and BAD!

    Look at Celine Dion and that OLD, OLD, OLD a$$ man she married. He groomed her from the age of 12 and he was 40. Jerry Lee Lewis married his 13 year old cousin at 22. Elvis Presley IMPORTED Priscilla from Germany at 14 and STASHED her away until she was 21.

    Who do you think Marvin Gaye was singing about in “Let’s Get it On.” Mick Jagger, David Bowie, Steve Tyler, Paul Walker, Jerry Seinfeld, Wilmer Valderrama, etc., it is a KNOWN fact that all of these MEN have SLEPT with underage teenagers. The one thing they all have in common is PARENTS willing to look the other way when MONEY is involved. Kudos to the Knowles for taking a stance on their VALUES.

  • What???

    Tina Looks like a witch + she has a bad attitude = Cheat on it

    Women and men aren’t equal. A woman’s value goes down over time and a man’s goes up as he ages. That’s nature dude.

  • Myopinion

    No but Kellz locked them up and treated them as s%$ slaves. How do we know if that is even true though about Matthew...not saying you lying but we have not proof or confession of this do we?

  • Ang

    Yea right lol. Tell that to Adele.

  • Myopinion

    why block me, we both have opinions...I'm just expressing mine. Does it make too much sense to you? Trying to down play my responses.

  • Sircaput

    If people are going to #muterkelly on this alleged offence and stop buying and playing his music we might as well #mutepaulwalker and no longer support the fast and the furious for young 15 year old he was dating. Lets #mutejayz when he was messing with underage Foxy Brown and Beyoncé, lets #mutetyga when he was dating Kylie and broke up with her cause he was cheating with another 15 year old. Lets #mutecharlemagne for being extra on this R Kelly situation but I guess he think we forgot about him saying he raped a girl back in south Carolina.

  • U gon learn today

    LOL! Anybody can access YouTube and watch all of the cockamamie conspiracy theory videos posted by superstitious and detached from reality loons like you. You haven’t revealed a thing.

  • Myopinion

    I mean what's the truth about his family, what makes them demons is what I'm asking?

  • And then there is that!

    I need for people to stop throwing people in this to justify R.Kelly. Kyle, Foxy, Beyonce, Misa and the likes have never claimed to be victims and I'm sure don't wont or need to be dragged into this R. Kelly mess. Let R. Kelly and his camp stand alone. Some of these younger girls are standing in an on their decision to date older men and don't feel bad about it. It is their decision to make.

  • Sircaput

    And for all of you all that keeps bragging that they saw the sex tape need to shut up because that make you just as guilty as the alleged R. Kelly, the biggest bootleg of child porn that supposedly over a million people bought and downloaded....smh.

  • jeniefrumdabloc™

    Their bloodline ... period ... serpent seeds .... Marked das it .... generational and it's dark

  • Myopinion

    Well Adele ain't sexy to the industry standards, and she won't have the longevity Beyonce' has had either...watch. She has some top albums and have won top awards but it's just a matter of time and we won't hear from her much longer.

  • Myopinion

    I believe in the bible(every word) but I also believe your statement as true as well.

  • NYTimes#1Bestseller

    Matthew Knowles is a very smart MAN and great protector. Salute for not pimping them out as other artists parents did.???

  • U gon learn today

    WoW. Like how weak minded does a person have to be to block harmless dialogue exchanged on a blog because they can’t handle opposing opinions or facts? How do they even function on the outside among society when they have to use a block button to “protect” themselves from dissenting opinions online? Sheesh.

  • dru and neil

    I was 22 back when that tape circulated and knew even then it was not right to watch it, knowing their was a teenager it. When offered, I declined. It gave me the creeps then and still does now.

  • Myopinion

    Oooh Okay, and how do I read up on this information? Really No Sarcasm...do you know them sis?

  • http://batman-news.com Roderick2011

    I am sorry but that wasn't what I meant.
    My point was someone brought up the age difference between J and Bey and the fact that they first met when he was in his 20's and she as still a teenager.
    I wasn't trying to justifying R Kelly's behavior just repeating what someone else has posited.

  • dru and neil

    Yes, good call Mathew!

  • Myopinion

    They can't handle a conversation that questions their lack of proof

  • Mark mcharm

    He did the pimping himself

  • NewNew

    Ive always thought she looked like a witch. Beauty is surely in the eye of the beholder

  • dru and neil

    Oh people REALLY don’t want to hear it about Paul Walker’s teen girlfriends...I thought that was so sad and pathetic when I read about that but it’s widely ignored.

  • Mark mcharm

    So you willingly viewed child porn? Smh this is why everyone up in arms is a joke.

  • Sircaput

    lol, just like a man, did you read the whole post??

  • NewNew

    The Hive is buzzing ?

  • GrapeCrush

    Riiight...have you seen his daughter Koi’s mother?? ? That just blew up your little theory.

  • Sircaput

    And I'm trying to play tic for tac or give excuses but I am tired of black men having their legacy destroyed whle their counterparts get to keep theirs. Even if R. Kelly is innocent his legacy is destroyed forever.

  • jeniefrumdabloc™

    Check your akashic records ......

  • What???

    Physically she looks wayyy better but she has the typical black woman bad attitude anyhow.

  • Coffee1st

    Did you read what she said???????

  • dru and neil

    I don’t really chop men up into categories like this, they are all Pigs From The Gates Of Hell, black or white. We need to watch our backs and protect our children.

  • dru and neil

    Holy Sh*t, did you not read my comment at all before you opened up your gap?

  • dru and neil

    I’m wondering the same thing, where’s his reading comprehension? I thought I was crystal f—— clear when I said I didn’t want to watch that mess.

  • Mark mcharm

    Yes I did that is why I deleted it you are one of the good ones?the other"outragers"are on some bs on instant gram they watched the tape and then now have a problem with the documentary.

  • dru and neil

    Wilmer Valderrama I forgot about him...

  • 11pink123

    Good Job Mathew!!!! Real Parents!!!

  • 11pink123

    Right. I seen like 20 seconds of it and turned it off. At the time I was a child and had no idea it was a child too. But I could not keep watching. I never got to see the pee part which is what I wanted to see, but I ain’t want to watch the whole thing to get to it.

  • BingBangBoom

    Chile you know them girls miss all that young healthy hair... layered for days..

  • Angelique Johnson

    Of course Bey wasn't going to deal with R. Kelly because Jay was like:

    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/6cdc8d997d41655714e11379a5f6574af68025b3bf510225843e6536abc519e3.gif

  • Faithz

    Yes Matthew did the girls good!!

  • Faithz

    Yes he did.

  • Faithz

    Lol

  • Applebootay

    I was about 20 when I saw it too and I'm from Chicago, so that was 25 YEARS AGO. it was EVERYWHERE..FOR FREE...and .IDGAF of your's or anyone's opinion either. You sound like you where still in your Daddy's nut sack back then because it wasn't no phucking streaming services then...it was ALL VHS Tape (if you know what that is) you didn't have to buy it, at least not here in Chicago., that's how long ago this was. I never "BRAGGED" about viewing it other than to state I viewed it. The world was such a different place 25-30 years ago. We've all done dumb shit so stop the judgemental holier than now BS. I wasn't guilty of anything but curiosity. We (people I know) for one, MOSTLY wanted to see if it was IN FACT him, because he was denying it saying it was his brother...etc...But what's REALLY PHUCKED UP his...this BLAME SHIFTING....The people at blame are R.Kelly and the Parents who pimped out their daughter and the person who copied and distributed it. ...All this other BS we commenting on is a distraction from the fact, that Pedophiles and Predators go back before Jesus was born...so its nothing new....Now that we know better we can do better. Let's stop all this petty azz coulda woulda shoulda...WHAT THE PHUCK ARE WE DOING NOW...???

  • tunjie

    What a douche, haha did you not read the comment?

  • GAPeach

    I'm not sure if you watched, but they were not locked up. Their chains were mental. When they walked out and left, it was of their own free will. Both of these men are manipulators. Matthew even went as far as to have TWO children by young girls after blowing sunshine up their asses and promising them a career. They are two of a kind. One just worse than the other.

  • CookieMobster

    Bey don't even look the same. Don't know why folks got to mess with they faces.

  • Applebootay

    You're not making sense. For you to be judgemental you would have to be older than 45 because this was over 30 years ago when...phuck it...yall not gone bring my pressure up today....nope

  • Myopinion

    hmmm, Ms Rudolph huh...okay

  • Applebootay

    Correction: You gotta WATCH YOUR KIDS PERIOD...WHy? Because their KIDS...No matter who it is. Stop having kids you can't "RAISE" is the cure because the whole village thing died in the 80s.

  • Applebootay

    I guess you're only referring to the women who were of age. The most of Kellys lot were underage and we know why and how its easy to brainwash a minor to stay.

  • Floriduhh Evans

    I love Bey but it looks like a different woman in the top pic...Kelly too smh

  • Applebootay

    You know what......

  • Applebootay

    And let me add. There is a very smart, young, petite, successful and pretty 20 something old girl in our office and her breath is HORRIBLE...we go to lunch together and I have to turn my head and its been like this since day one...her teeth are pretty and white, she has a gorgeous smile but her breath smelled like hot trash...one day she told me she was going to the dentist after work and I got happy....thinking she knew and was getting help but no...came back still stank...I always wondered how men could put up with it.

  • Ain’t Misbehavin

    What? Tell me?

  • Ain’t Misbehavin

    Keep the $ in the family

  • Applebootay

    So now we know how Jay slipped in, while he busy eyeing the flamboyant predator, the quiet one with bigger pockets slipped in the back door....Glass houses...

  • Applebootay

    I believe you....LOL

  • Applebootay

    LIES

  • Ain’t Misbehavin

    I hate all of you right now! I went to college with a girl like that, every time she spoke I could see the words come outta her mouth. A gorgeous girl at that.

  • TheOwley

    Everyone knew back then what he was. The "I didn't know anything" like many say in #metoo won't fly here. They all knew and no one stepped up to protect girls.

  • Yui
  • Eileen

    #metoo bs was about the ww it was not us. Thank goodness Mr Knowels choose to protect instead of profit with Destinys child.

  • Eileen

    JZ is not a predator and he is still with bey and the chilluns.

  • Eileen

    Thank You...

  • Eileen

    Kudos to the bm that defended his wife and chilluns, yes I consider all the girls to be his because they were under his protection and he protected them the way he did bey!

  • Eileen

    Kudos to the bm that defended his wife and chilluns, yes I consider all the girls to be his because they were under his protection and he protected them the way he did bey!

  • Alana Sims

    Im a singer and when i was younger i really wanted stardom. My dad is also a singer/pianist and we are from detroit. So i remember being like 16 and an older man who was like 37 with a kid, trying to date me. He was like a industry cat in the city. My dad didnt allow me to go out and record late at night. Funny thing is when i was old enough to go by myself to these places, aka recording studios, the guys never hit on me. It used to b kinda scary because of how my dad used to so up and arms. But once i started going to studios by myself because i was older a d had a car and what not, nothing bad ever happened and no one hit on me ever.

  • Alana Sims

    Im a singer and when i was younger i really wanted stardom. My dad is also a singer/pianist and we are from detroit. So i remember being like 16 and an older man who was like 37 with a kid, trying to date me. He was like a industry cat in the city. My dad didnt allow me to go out and record late at night. Funny thing is when i was old enough to go by myself to these places, aka recording studios, the guys never hit on me. It used to b kinda scary because of how my dad used to so up and arms. But once i started going to studios by myself because i was older a d had a car and what not, nothing bad ever happened and no one hit on me ever.

  • Alana Sims

    Dont we all miss that good healthy hair lol

  • Alana Sims

    Dont we all miss that good healthy hair lol

  • Alana Sims

    Apparently the girl he p’d on in the tape is my distant cousin. Thats sumthin.

  • KcoolMuziq
  • NewNew

    Where have I been and how did i miss this juicy tidbit?! ??

  • Dahl

    Your name sums up your comment too well...

  • Judge Mental Will

    lol shut up

  • Rayne

    Yes. The of age women.

  • Renee Raquel

    Oh but she was. Immature..Robert Townsend..master p... Her daddy had her pimped out since day one

  • Renee Raquel

    She was we just don't hear about it

  • Renee Raquel

    Please ..no respectable man would let his daughter dance like a hot whore in heat right in front of his face

  • TooMuchTea

    lol! Paid off too.

  • TooMuchTea

    Not me!! Nope! Couldn’t watch that or that Kim Kardashian mess.

  • PRECIOUS

    Hey I dated a guy who had a mutual friend with R Kelly. They called him once while I throwing a dinner party and he asked if R could come over. He had show in town that night right down the street. I wanted tics but I didn’t want him in my house and my teen daughter wasn’t even in the state. He might’ve snuck in the room and left his number on note promising my kid something to call him!!!! I do often wonder what it would’ve been like to have R Kelky at my dinner table though. Probably a trip cause gave y’all heard him hold a conversation?!?! LOLOLOL!!!

  • PRECIOUS

    Actually 17...I think they hooked up on that tour they did in ‘99...all the girls had a bandmate boyfriend except Kelly. Kelly was just as fass tho. There were stories about them sneaking off to local house parties playing spin the bottle and whatever that kissing in the closet game is...

  • PRECIOUS

    No back in the day Tina was all that. Her salon in Houston was like the club lmao.

  • Ni Ni

    They thought you were too old then, smh.

  • PRECIOUS

    Woman’s values never cease cause y’all asses can’t cook, clean, or teach children FOH a man’s value is only as good as his bank account no matter the age chump

  • PRECIOUS

    Exactly. Never saw it. I don’t subscribe to filth.

  • dru and neil

    I actually understand what you are saying. I didn’t watch it, plenty of other folks I knew and was friends with did watch, and it really was out of curiosity. Folks really were wondering “is it really him?” and didn’t think too much on it. We were young and had some growing up to do because even back then, I just thought it was creepy and knew she was too young and dismissed it, but almost two decades later, my perception is different. It’s not just “creepy” it’s despicable, criminal, it’s distresful and heartbreaking that a 14 year old was lured into this, and he should have been charged back then. He should have been a registered sex offender a long time ago.

  • PRECIOUS

    30 years huh?

  • PRECIOUS

    That shyt was not in the 90s. It was about 15 years ago. You senile.

  • PRECIOUS

    He needs the attention lol

  • brooklyn23

    I bet you it was more of the difference of business that discouraged mr Knowles. If business was right he wouldve pimped them chicas

  • brooklyn23

    Didn't he too mess with Aaliyah and foxy brown (and who knows who else) when they were like 15/16?? Jayz aint innocent and neither is most of the industry pdiddy etc

  • SweetTEE

    Idk..lol. Im sure you can find it on google. I think they disowned that uncle afterwards lol

  • SunSoy

    Kudos to men period of all races who protect women and children .

  • SunSoy

    Alliayah parents should of pressed charges all of this would of been avoided.

  • Nicol B

    Wrong @disqus_9PpNWcC4Gz:disqus it was started by a black woman named Tarana Burke; however, it wasn't recognized until ww started using the hastag.

  • Nicol B

    Thank you! Jay was fooling with the kids too.

  • Nicol B

    it's called WORK...
    I thought the exact same thing. I was looking for the resemblance.

  • Nicol B

    Although I agree with your message, your facts are incorrect. This wasn't 25-30 years ago, it was 18 (2001). Also, I watched it on the internet, in other words, I streamed it. I never paid for any VHS tape and didn't even own a player at that time. I was renting DVD's from Netflix...that was when this went down. I remember this so vividly because it was so disturbing to watch.

    I also could give AF if anyone has an opinion of me watching it. You can't judge a person based on what you don't know. That was enough for me to learn in that moment that R. Kelly is a straight SICKO!!!

  • SunSoy

    Jay-z recorded a WHOLE Album with R Kelly. Jay-Z knew about his history. At least Lady GaGa apologized.

  • Nicol B

    right? what an idiot!

  • SunSoy

    Jay z recorded a whole album with R Kelly.

  • Nicol B

    a "young girl" is not emotionally equipped to make her own decision when it comes to dating a grown ass man. now when i say "young girl" i'm speaking to those under the age of legal consent.

  • SunSoy

    R Kelly music should not have been allowed on radio a long time ago. Black people knew and said nothing.

  • Nicol B

    amen, black or white...the devil is the devil!

  • SunSoy

    Not just the parents the music industry knew. Jay- z recorded a whole album with R Kelly. Jay-Z knew.

  • EyeEmJai

    JayZ popped in my head when I read this post. I mean, Mathew didn't mind JayZ's presence around Destinys Child, specifically Beyonce yet he and Kelly are around the same age. Jay wasn't clean-cut as far as his artistry...and the rumors about him and Foxy who was a teen. To me, I wouldn't desire any men their ages around them during that time...but that's me.

  • SunSoy

    Jay-Z recorded a WHOLE Album with R Kelly he knew. At least Lady GaGa apologized. Plus Beyonce is a pop artist not an R&B artist.

  • Kay Gee

    Kelly Rowland worked with him in the 2000s maybe around 2013, I was surprised because it was around the time this same energy was out there. I'm sure this is the 3rd time R. Kelly has been in the hot seat. This time feels a lot different. I'm sure his detractors are finally happy.

  • Mark mcharm

    Lmao first of all it was not 30 years ago that tape came out and secondly she did not watch it now if you go on Instagram it is people who watched the tape but are b.....!tching in 2019.like I keep saying this is bigger than him don't know whose next but its coming.

  • Myopinion

    Again, PROOF

  • Myopinion

    What then does thou speaketh

  • Dowoop

    I miss not having to do my own damn hair

  • speakinmymind

    And this is a prime example of why u can't believe everything people post on the internet.??

  • Ang

    DC and Beyoncé started as R&B.

  • speakinmymind

    We heard the rumor, gossip and innuendo...nothing factual.??

    Folks are such sheeple.

  • Logan Roberts

    That's why he's been so quiet.

  • Passion

    I didn’t recognize Beyonce, she looks totally different, Kelly looks exactly the same.

  • RedBullWoke

    Sounds like I hit a sore spot hun. I’m not going to argue with you, the truth will be revealed. You be blessed and stay away from those minors ?.

  • RedBullWoke

    Yup most definitely an infant because said user is on here crying over the fact that you blocked him/her/it.

  • Renee Raquel

    Solange was the only one havin sex at 15? Yeah ok

  • NYTimes#1Bestseller

    Np!!!

  • NYTimes#1Bestseller

    Yep!!!

  • NYTimes#1Bestseller

    ????

  • CaramelDrop

    He doesn’t need to - she does whatever he wants. I this is coming from a officer of the Beehive. I KNOW what my girl is capable of. I just think she is give all (as we are supposed to) to her husband. He is dirty and doesn’t deserve it. I don’t trust his intentions.

  • Myopinion

    I didn't say she wasn't having sex, I said she wasn't an industry pass around. She did have a boyfriend when she became famous did you forget.

  • And then there is that!

    I agree but don't try and make victims out of people who choose not to be. If these women want to come forward and tell their stories then allow them too in their own time. They all grown. To try and force them to be apart of something is just doing too much. Misa said herself yesterday keep her out of that period.

  • Harley

    I felt the opposite Kelly looks way different and Bey just looks younger

  • Harley

    JayZ kicked Rkelly off the tour and it was just RocNation. Ty I believe even had an altercation with Rkelly when the allegations came out.

  • Harley

    Beyonce was 20 when they began to date and there are pics with her and her prom date then boyfriend floating around as well

  • Harley

    And when the allegations came out kicked him off the tour

  • Harley

    JayZ kicked r Kelly off the tour when the allegations came up. It was just roc nation and he separated himself from him

  • Harley

    Can’t stand Adele all her songs sound the same

  • millz

    Latoya is beautiful and still looks the same ?

  • Li-Wright

    Found on the internet, Neyo on R Kelly: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lHiOoSmGMIs

  • Disgustd

    The alleged incident did happen in the mid to late 90s. His team had the trial delayed for 10 years and so it wasn't held until 2008.

  • PRECIOUS

    Ohhhh pardon my ignorance

  • Applebootay

    I live in Chicago......nevermind...it makes no since to argue about the damn time frame. point is no one i know was bragging about seeing it.

  • Applebootay

    does it really matter tho....it was long enough..the point was about people bragging about seeing it

  • Applebootay

    it seems that long...lol

  • Applebootay

    never said he was...its been long rumored that he showed interest before but waited until she legal...i know..all yall celebreties are God to yall..so go head

  • Applebootay

    Here come the Beehive...5...4..3..2..

  • CaramelDrop

    ?????

  • Ain’t Misbehavin

    Bwahahaha I cant stand people like that, they take the fun outta blogging.

  • what?why

    Yes he was and Tina was the chaperone.

  • Allihave2say

    Matthew was busy watching R. Kelly but missed Jay Z altogether. Jay Z is a predator and a user.

  • Allihave2say

    I listened to this the other day. Neyo has always expressed the truth about the artists to include Beyonce. The only person he doesn't expose is himself. I remember a pic of him in a fish net skirt on the beach at Freak Nik. He must have scrubbed the Net because I can't find it.

  • Allihave2say

    In 2002 R. Kelly was charged with 21 counts of child pornography. The trial last until 2008 where he was acquitted.
    R. Kelly tells in his autobiography that he had his first girlfriend at age 8. He claimed that LuLu and he were involved in a fight with bullies and she was pushed into a body of water. As she drowned she was screaming his name. He never said whether he jumped in to save her (or maybe I don't remember). I often pondered if he pushed her in the water. I think he's a sociopath

  • Allihave2say

    who are these people? What's happening?

  • KcoolMuziq

    R Kelly GaGa & Lady Gaga.

  • Allihave2say

    Is she simulating BJ? Thx,

  • Tarrese Thompkins

    But Jay-Z recorded an album with him "The Best of Both Worlds" and this album got pulled and the music yanked from our airways. Why? They fought openly while they were on tour - i mean the duo, together was tragic. There's something about Jay-Z's relationship with Beyonce that doesn't sit well with me, it never did. If R.Kelly had a sexual link to Jay-Z or Beyonce it will come out - R.Kelly recorded every sex act. If there was no history with R.Kelly then there's no shame. If he had history with you, their was shame attached to it.

  • KcoolMuziq

    She most definitely is!

  • Karen Brady

    lol... and yes he is

  • Allihave2say

    Just wow!

  • SweetTEE

    I'm going to ignore your nobody ass.

  • MRiGOThim

    LaTavia the only one with the same face in 2019 :P

  • EMILY POST

    Standing guard over the girl group when R Kelly was around..... ?Good job Beyonce daddy! Nobody don’t ever wanna give him credit but

    The thought of Crazy in Love the R Kelly remix...
    R kelly remixes are serious...or if R Kelly would have done The crazy in Love album instead of Jay Z !

  • the guest

    No, Mathew Knowles was hip to Jay Z and he did not like Jay Z. One of the reasons Beyonce fired her father.

  • the guest

    Is that Beyonce in the photo? Doesn’t look like her today at all.

  • the guest

    I believe he pushed her and he definitely is a sociopath.

  • the guest

    Thank you for bringing up Foxy. She was a young teen when she got signed and she was sexually abused by the grown black men at that label. I know this for a fact. Jay Z was not right or fair to Foxy.

  • the guest

    Back in the day it was like a trend in hip hop for men in their twenties and thirties to go out with underage teen hip hop girls on the scene. The relationships were public too. Grown men acting and dressing like teens holding hands in the club with their little girl teen girlfriends.

  • Allihave2say

    I believe he did as well. I re-read the articles over and over. I couldn't leave the missing elements of his statement of account. He said she fell in the water after their was a fight with some older boys. How? What did the other kids say of do? She screamed for him but he never said that he tried to help her. He watched her float down the river.

  • Allihave2say

    Matthew shouldn't have allowed Beyonce to do duets with Jay Z from the get go the same as he said he did with R. Kelly. Beyonce herself stated she got with Jay Z as a teenager, so did Foxy Brown and Rhianna. JZ was sleeping with Rhianna at 15 or 16 yrs old that's why she was holding his hands at the awards and he jerked it back while on stage.

    I'm going to go off the cusp with this next theory. Don't get mad Guest.
    Do you remember how JZ said that he would ruin Chris Brown? How he threatened him in the media after the beating of Rhianna? Think back. There were two rumors circulating about that incident.

    1. Rhianna was pregnant and had an abortion. It was suspected that Chris was angry about that. It was also said it was Jay Z's baby. Remember that after this Rhianna was in the pool at Diddy's house. There were no bruises.
    2. Rhianna gave CB herpes she got from JZ. This is the same as men taking the fall for Halle Berry.
    It's said that CB agreed to take the rap to protect Rhianna and JZ but didn't expect the fall out attack he got. Remember that Rhianna was the drug addict and the drinker long before CB.
    What do you think?

  • the guest

    Never saw it. Never wanted to see it.

  • the guest

    I remember not wanting to see it and I never have. For me, I felt like by watching it there’s no way around the fact that watching that tape is watching child porn.

    I remember people who saw it calling the 12 year old girl fast and saying that they didn’t consider her a victim because she looked like she knew what she doing. I couldn’t believe how people blamed and objectified a child.

  • dru and neil

    I can believe it, folks have been blaming children for their own abuse for years!

  • SunSoy

    The tour happened before the allegations and Jay- z quit the tour.And his music was played on radio for years after the allegations and Black people said nothing. Tragic!

  • PRECIOUS

    A child being peed on smh