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Dionne Warwick says she's not convinced Beyonce Knowles-Carter rises to the level of a classic or iconic singer.

The iconic soul singer who is best known for her hits "What The World Needs Now" and "Say A Little Prayer," has returned with a new album, titled, She's Back.

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In an exclusive interview with ESSENCE magazine, Warwick, 78, says she's proud of building a career that's based on music that have a "beginning, middle and an end."

When asked if today's music were classics, she laughed out loud, and responded, firmly, "Not yet."

"I don't know if 10 years from now, anybody can actually sing the songs of our babies today. That's not, as you guys say, 'throwing shade,' it's looking at it with reality," she explained.

While Warwick is a fan of Beyonce's work, she is not convinced that "Single Ladies" hitmaker is at the level of a classic or iconic artist.

Warwick said Beyonce still has a long way to go before she earns Icon status.

"I love her to death and can appreciate her talent. But that iconic status, it's a long road [ahead]," Warwick said.

Photos by Frederick M. Brown/GettyImages, Larry Busacca/Getty Images

  • TeeJay

    I totally agree!!! Truth spoken.

  • MistaO

    She might be right...

  • Nikkiknows

    I don't see the lie here! I thought about this recently as I was listening to the radio...

  • datjerk

    She not completely wrong.

  • Witch

    The beehive tribe will come dragging this black woman for their white looking Queen in 5, 4, 3 , 2 , 1

  • Skin Deep Beauty

    Where's the lie.... No tune holders, no real singers, BUT PLENTY OF STAGE PERFORMERS with dancers, and pirotechniques and costumes and booty Twerkin!

  • Ghost

    I agree ?!

  • Floriduhh Evans

    But I don't consider Dionne an icon either, no shade. I am still listening to Beyonce's music, most of which was released over 10 years ago. Dionne is not Whitney, Aretha, Luther, Gladys or Patti, so she's not one to talk.

  • Gloria

    Beyoncé more of an icon than she is. Don’t @ me.

  • WhoKnew

    I said it a long time ago. Ass shaking does not make you a singer.

  • Reina1718

    I agree. Stevie wonders music is everlasting. Back then singers were multi talented, no auto tune or vocal assistance

  • Dontgetdraggedhoe??

    I disagree
    Fantasia is that to me

  • Desi

    Teyana Taylor could play Dionne or Cecily Tyson in a biopic.

  • WutizstillHERE!

    shhhhhaaadde!!

  • The Shy Cookie

    I agree. Beyonce songs are not timeless. They are mediocre for a mediocre ear.

  • WhoKnew

    I still get the feva when I listen to Curtis Mayfield and Gladys Knights "The Makings of You". Whew chile.

  • WutizstillHERE!

    OFFTOPIC:
    My son and his fiance' had a baby girl! 7lbs 5oz. I wish I could post her little pic! Wait Ill post her in my profile pic

  • WhoKnew

    Congrats Gma!

  • Bree

    Where is the lie? With the right songs, Fantasia can take the world by storm!

  • CardiB’sAbs

    There hasn’t been a star as big as Beyonce since Michael Jackson and before that Diana Ross.

  • Bree

    Congratulations Nana! Praying for a smooth transition for mommy and baby.

  • DroneRivers

    So is Beyonce the standard? And what about Jazmine Sullivan, Jill Scott, India Arie, Ledisi, I can go on.

  • KcoolMuziq

    One word PRINCE(R.I.P.)

  • Nina Ross

    Jennifer Hudson is the only one that could come close... if she had better material

  • DroneRivers

    Congratulations!

  • CardiB’sAbs

    Perhaps. However his music doesn’t speak to my generation at all like Michael’s music. What we know about Prince comes from the Dave Chapelle skits.

  • Nina Ross

    Congratulations

  • Ni Ni

    They don't want Fantasia! They don't like real sangin. These kids will tell you quick that they dont like "churchy" voices which is the soul of our music.

  • Nina Ross

    I’ve never heard a child say that

  • A.P. Millz-CT

    White looking queen ?????

  • Witch

    Strippers with microphones

  • JayBird

    Are you serious? That's pretty sad.

  • Sinny

    Did you forget about the multiple record holder (before stream were even around); the great, Mariah Carey? ?

  • Ni Ni

    I've seen the comments on the instagram blogs

  • CardiB’sAbs

    Not even in the same league

  • Bree

    Good point! I don't believe Beyonce is the standard. She is no Whitney, however, I would not want her to be. I listen to Beyonce, the same way I listen to Ashanti, Christina Aguilera, and Brittney Spears,

  • Ni Ni

    You have two grandbabies now? Congrats!!!

  • DroneRivers

    The reason I asked if she's the standard is because she's the only one mentioned in the article. And look at how she's mentioned in the post title lol

  • Bleu Lantern

    Dionne needs to be quiet. For all of her "legendary vibe", I don't think her voice is anything special.

  • CardiB’sAbs

    Perhaps it’s sad for you all but I’m not missing anything. I can only stand When Doves Cry bc Ginuwine remade it and Diamonds and Pearls bc of the fat black woman singing.

  • Bree

    I believe you are right. Fantasia can sing the alphabets, I will still need a fan, an usher, and one of them sheets!

  • Reina1718

    ***off topic*** i read dj khaled has a child n4 asad, in new orleans ? bout 9yrs old or older.. not sure if its a boy or girl but ppl in nola kno

  • Witch

    Free speech is a constitutional right. You bee hivers are annoying y'all ruined R&B.

  • CardiB’sAbs

    Not surprised

  • Reina1718

    True, mariah is legendary. Not a dancer but that 1st album. All vocals. Vision of love ??

  • smartchickfl

    She must've bumped her head...my girl Mariah is everything lol.

  • Reina1718

    I think Toni braxton is legendary too

  • Cali

    Ms. Dionne must have NEVER heard her own voice?.

  • smartchickfl

    Congrats!! Babie are such a joy?.

  • DroneRivers

    Damn

  • Yup, I said it

    Icon status is usually not determined until the death of the artist. They we realized how big of an impact they had on music. O dare to say we have alot of living legengss that may become iconic. Sade and Chaka Khan, Roberts Flack and Anita Baker most definitely hold some type of music crown. What crown they hold, time will determine.

  • Witch

    Men like fawking women what else is new? You women still lying to yourself think men are only laying up with just you? Men like screwing and being nasty. Men have made porn a multi billion dollar industry because they like to screw.

  • Cali

    He needs his arse beat if that’s true, how he’s been parading his young son around and there is another one hidden?

  • Yup, I said it

    Whew Chile...

  • Judi Jupiter

    She will be iconic to me, too. Mariah was until she started with the bs.. still an icon but from the past, cuz she could saaang at first.

  • Ni Ni

    Beyonce is iconic in her generation, imo, because she does have the hits although she's not the best singer or dancer & she doesn't make timeless music. Maybe, Dion was talking about her catalog which sucks if we compare her to the greats.

  • Yup, I said it

    Its not.

  • Prince Jarmajesty II

    Does anyone else think Teyana Taylor could play her in a biopic?? They look so similar to me

  • T Willis

    Yeah I think she’s referring to catalog. Payola had a big hand in Beyoncé’s hits. None of her music is timeless, but she’s a great performer.

  • Sinny

    Okaaaaaay?????????? #Blasphemy at it finest lol. Maybe they forgot lol

  • Ni Ni

    Right, we could put them all in the same category.

  • http://batman-news.com Roderick2011

    Pat Houston must be the true devil.
    She isn't even blood but she does whatever she wants Whitney's estate and says whatever she wants and no one challenges her.
    Not even Cissy challenges her.

  • n1kk1a

    It’s sad because she’s my cousin. I can sing and I always wanted her to hear me. I always hoped she would come to the reunions, but she never has. ?

  • Gloria

    Love Fanny but she ain’t it. She has dark skin, has a natural body, and has real talent. They don’t want that sadly.

  • Sinny

    Nope- but since they added Nippy to the conversation- per her pic above; it’s implied that they were excluding no one.

  • TransMichelle

    Keke Wyatt (from the reality show Divas:Atlanta) can sing too she just crazy as hell..!

  • T Willis

    Janet and Mariah were crowned iconic around Beyoncé’s age. Prince, Aretha, MJ etc., their music was so universally appreciated for decades that the public automatically recognizes them among the “greatest”... Kelz too (despite his personal life and drama)... Beyonce is a great performer but I rarely listen to her music. Folks will listen to her latest for a few weeks and move onto to the classics of an iconic artist.

  • Blaque Mahogany

    She's entitled to her opinion. That's a nice picture of her on the magazine.

    This reminded me of the YT series Got 2 B Real....that show was hilarious.

  • Ni Ni

    Listen, my mom will drop whatever she's doing to get to the tv when i tell her fantasia's on. Fantasia makes me smile and get chills. You feel every note she sings. Her voice has that anointing! ?

  • Sinny

    Let’s leave dancing out of this ?. That’s my all-time fav, but babaaaay, my girl has two left feet. Two-step even be offbeat but that’s alright. Those records are still unbroken so she gets a pass lol

  • CardiB’sAbs

    Yup!

  • Reina1718

    This was b4 his wife lol u been hurt?

  • Ni Ni

    Love me some Keke, but i think she has been her worst enemy being a nut.

  • Renee26

    I guess... That's her opinion

  • Yup, I said it

    See Dionne stay saying something. That's why Aretha had to check Dionnes ass by reading her the riot act thru a fax.??
    Dionne's psychic friends should have warned her about her mouth writing checks.?

  • Ni Ni

    I agree.

  • CardiB’sAbs

    Lololol

  • Dr. P

    I mean!

  • Witch

    I just don't want to get an std because I lied to myself believing a man is only fawking me.

  • Reina1718

    Yeah i was looking for more details but couldnt find any... im assuming its a daughter.. the way he go hard for his son... they said the wife mite not kno about it... child about 9yrs old

  • CardiB’sAbs

    I’m just here to start sh!t ?

  • ALLMINE?

    They're timeless. Timeless for this generation. Beyonce will be played when im old at senior parties. If not. Then who?

  • Leigh Burton

    Plus, she is the Michelle Duggar of R&B with those 9 children!

  • CardiB’sAbs

    Imma get down to single ladies when I’m 72 and I dump my man for the next nigga

  • Leigh Burton

    What about Gladys Knight, Patti LaBelle, and Mariah Carey?

  • T Willis

    Because for some reason no other black artists after Beyonce was able to break into mainstream. Before Beyonce it seemed like black girls had an even playing field, and then around 2002-2004 something shifted and suddenly all anyone could focus on was Beyonce or Rihanna. Ciara, Ashanti, Mya, Keri, Keyshia Cole were all left in the dust... and Ledisi, Jill Scott etc (Neo-Soul artists) always played the background so their positioning hasn’t really changed.

  • Blaque Mahogany

    Is the bm black? That's what I want to know.

  • CopperCutie

    ......Agreed Miss. Warwick.

  • CardiB’sAbs

    So true.

  • Overpower Radio

    You say that, because you don't know the impact of her work in her time. Beyonce's a great singer and a great performer, but she doesn't sing timeless music. She has but a few gems in about 6-7 albums worth of music. It's not a diss. It's just real.

    Dionne Warwick worked with the best composers of her time, namely Burt Bacharach and the music she broke became hits for many others under her influence. Luther Vandross covered A House is Not a Home, and If Anyone Had a Heart, which are both originally Dionne's songs.

  • ALLMINE?

    I prefer "THE STYLISTICS"..

  • Renee26

    What we know about Prince comes from the Dave Chapelle skits.

    DEAD ???????

  • ALLMINE?

    Psychic friends? Yoooo I remember that as a kid

  • T Willis

    Really? Because they’re both from the same era. MJ’s last mainstream hit was late 90s maybe early 2000s, and the same for Prince. MJ was more mainstream friendly, Prince was nasty, lewd, and a rocker.

  • Renee26

    Yells "Uuuuuuh Uuuut??" In my Prince imitation

  • Reina1718

    Them too

  • J2PC

    Todays trendy or generational icons are only for their time. They are not the same as real legendary icons who are able to transcends musical talent for generations to come decades even after the iconic talent is dead and gone.

    Many so-call stars today tend sample, mimic the real talented musicians & performers of yesteryear (decades ago). True talent is creative in their own right or lane and do not need to sample to talent, performances or singing of those who came before them.

    That is the point I think Dionne and so many others have tried to make. Years from now, most people will not even care about the gimmicking trendy pop or autotune junk of today. Whereas, those from the 40s through the 80s were real talent, trend-setters & hitmakers that today's artists need to emulate for a buck.

  • Reina1718

    I think so, ima keep on snoopin ??

  • T Willis

    I thought she just had the 10th?

  • Renee26

    Congrats!!

  • ALLMINE?

    If not Beyonce then who? Who we got that's bigger than her since 2000? Helllooo? She'll be RESPECTED just like Aretha was when we're all old as hell..

  • Rere

    Beyonce is a living legend

  • Reina1718

    Nowadays u do have 2 be-careful, men be having wives & kids at home acting single so u rite

  • T Willis

    I have lol. They prefer light and airy vocals like Jhene Aioki

  • Reina1718

    Yes i think ima go listen to her greatest hits ??

  • Strappyheels

    I absolutely hated when she was on Solid Gold and messing up folks songs!!

    I will say though, Whitney sure favored Dionne in her later years.. Crack is whack!!

  • currvalicious

    Dionne's earned the right to her opiniin, as she is an icon. She's also old-school, fine wine talent. They way they developed artists back then was totally different. The talent then was real, & genuine. Now, idk where these people are coming from. Though I do believe, in my humble opinion, that Beyonce is an icon.

  • Renee26

    I love Luther's versions.... I MIGHT take a listen to hers since I never heard them before. Did hers have the same popularity or is she just smelling herself?

  • ALLMINE?

    Beyonce is the last of the "ICONIC POPSTAR".. I dont even see an actual young competitor that's coming up. I don't think labels are looking for "all around talent" anymore.

  • Strappyheels

    Did you see her on “The Four”? Her granddaughter (she looks mixed) is definitely a strong vocalist.. Dionne trying hard to get another Whitney out there.

  • CardiB’sAbs

    This is what old people say.

  • Renee26

    What the world needs now (is love sweet love)...is the only song of hers that comes to mind.... I love some oldies too

  • Yup, I said it

    I like pop music. I'm shame to say it but i Ariana Grandes songs 7 things, and Break Up. They are catchy but she's she has a great voice. If she branches out of pop she may be a great.

  • currvalicious

    Pat, is a whole other mess. She could've helped Whitney if she really wanted to. Keep 'em drunk, & high, & you keep control over the $$$. What good to her would a clear minded, & sober Whitney be??? That Pat,,,is the devil.

  • CardiB’sAbs

    Exactly. Prince’s music wasn’t hitting for us.

  • T Willis

    There are no competitors because the record labels have become political. Some artists are signed just to be shelved because they’re a threat to a top money maker. And other artists have trouble getting their projects or budgets greenlit because the label is already heavily invested in another artist. But Beyonce isn’t on top because she’s the best, she’s on top because she has some very powerful connects in the industry.

  • Joy King

    I'm sure many will disagree but I do believe Beyonce is iconic and this is coming from someone who has never bought a Beyonce album. My definition of a musical icon is an artist who can't be replaced. Beyonce's work ethic as a performer alone, makes her irreplaceable. I don't think any artists of today or moving forward will ever give their all, performance wise the way she does. Most are just too lazy. I'm not even a Beyonce fan at all but I can still speak the truth.

  • T Willis

    Lol I still hate that song to this day. Funny enough, I was listening to Beyoncé’s homecoming the album, and that’s when I realized, if I’m not watching her perform, I don’t want to hear her music. And it makes sense why she creates visual albums, because she must realize this too lol.

  • Sinny

    ?? her catalogue is always in heavy rotation but sometimes I have to be careful because some of her songs will make you want to do cartwheels in traffic is you’re down lol

  • Witch

    Men have the women that cook and clean their house and the other women do the kinky stuff he wouldn't want the woman that cooks and cleans for him doing. Many of them go to foreign places for cheaper prostitutes. Not male bashing just being aware and as safe as possible.

  • stav

    I agree!

  • stav

    it's that jaw!

  • Renee26

    Ok.... I like the remakes of Don't Make Me Over, Walk on By and the covers Luther did of her old songs.... I just went to listen to Dionne's versions and stopped before a minute was up on each one. Sis is feeling herself

    I like classics from the 60's - 80's too but not hers

    When I think of Dionne I think of "That's What Friends Are For" and "What the World Needs Now" and I wouldn't add either to my playlist or bump them and sing them at the top of my lungs. I probably change to another station.

  • ALLMINE?

    I don't believe that. She's hella talented and has been around b4 the extreme politics.

  • CardiB’sAbs

    ???? you aint right!

  • ALLMINE?

    I'm tired of seeing stevie. Is there anybody else from back then they can honor? ??

  • Renee26

    I like Ariana too... Her older stuff more. I also like Demi

  • Renee Bee

    Yep. That hella strong jawline.

  • Kanyade

    congratulations!

  • Bree

    I can believe that. It happens on normal paying jobs too sometimes.

  • Chicagowise

    No shade... but... Beyonce has a much stronger voice than Dionne. Beyonce's voice isn't the issue, it's her choice of music. Years before he died, Prince tried to convince Beyonce to learn to play piano. He thought that if she learned to play an instrument, it would improve the quality of her work.

    I don't know who is orchestrating it, but the market for black singers is so small, Kim Kardashian's IQ couldn't fit in it. Music listeners from the 70s and 80s were spoiled rotten with great music!

  • T Willis

    I don’t know. I’m at the far end of the millennial spectrum lol, but I don’t know anyone that plays Beyonce old stuff. Like, with the exception of Single Ladies, no one I know - and I know a lot of ppl lol - plays her old stuff. No one lol. Not Freakum Dress, Deja Vu, Countdown, Run the World, Crazy in Love, Dangerously in Love, Naughty Girl.... that’s all I could think of lol... no one lol. They’ll play her newest for a couple weeks and then they listen to oldies or another current day/underground artist. It also explains why Beyonce doesn’t like streaming services lol, because who really streams her sh*t?

  • TheWildChild

    ??? strong Dionne features, as if Dionne gave birth to her in another life ?

  • Bree

    I believe so

  • Witch

    That woman from Soul ll Soul is a real singer. If Beyonce were darkskin she would not be where she is. You have to look European to be black people's favorite anything thats why Michael Jackson bleached his skin. Michael Blackson gets paid by black people to make fun of his own skin color. Our girls are all over social media Instagram in white woman drag and latina drag trying to be accepted. It's not about talent its about looking white passing and doing silly things in the media to stay relevant.

  • ¡Apryl-Shaw!

    Well, that’s her opinion. She’s comes from a different time of music and entertainment. Every decade someone says the same thing, “there are no more iconic singers.” ?????

  • Bree

    Yes! I think they are all the same. I'm not a gimmicky person. I like all those ladies, but I don't get excited when they perform like I do when Fantasia takes me to church. Lawd, that chick sings me under the pews!

  • Chicagowise

    Dionne's best songs are I'll Never Love This Way Again, No Night So Long, Do You Know The Way To San Jose?, and the theme from The Valley of the Dolls. Valley of the Dolls is one of my favorite songs. One day, I'm going to learn to play it and do my own cover version! ????

  • Bree

    I noticed that. They all started out around the same time. People jump on the bandwagon of the "popular" but who's popular isn't always the best choice. I hate to be categorized with anyone else. But when I see Beyonce, I see Brittney Spears, Christina Aguilera, Ashanti, and even Christina Milian. They all look and sound the same to me.

  • ALLMINE?

    I don't listen to her either lol..I just know her impact is crazy. I think people like "Her" more than the music.

  • Witch

    I like Beyonce but her fans make her unlikeable. You all dont respect the people that came before her.

  • Renee26

    I'll try and give them a listen... The first one sounds familiar.

  • Scorpio

    Beyonce is younger than Dionne which may explain a stronger voice at this time, and generally it is a stronger in tone, but we are still singing Dionne songs, Walk On By, Say A Little Prayer, Alfie, That's What Friends Are For, Never Love This Way Again, What the World Needs Now, just to name a few. However, I do believe that R&B music has been gentrified quite a bit these days and today's artist do have decades to go before truly being labeled ICON in the true sense, rather than the way its loosely thrown around today. Beyonce is on her way, but still has work to do. I agree with Dionne as far as, will we sing Cater to You and Partition if Beyonce is around at 78?

  • Fred G sanford

    How would she know what an iconic singer is because she sure as hell was not one

  • Chicagowise

    I'm not a Beyonce fan. I like two songs: If I Were A Boy and Crazy In Love. Frankly, I think all fans are over the top. After all, fan is short for fanatic. ?

  • Gamer?? Chick

    TRUTH!!

  • Robert lee Bennett OG

    Totally true

  • T Willis

    ?

  • Robert lee Bennett OG

    You are totally correct white woman drag and Latina drag I don’t know why they do that

  • T Willis

    Speak fo yourself ? Prince is everything ??...and your comment is funny as hell to me cause around 2-3 years ago when prince died and Tidal had his catalog, this 26 year old black girl was geeked out about Tidal having Prince’s music lol. She was doing the most! Lmao bopping her head and dancing all over the place! I was like dang girl you must really love prince, and she was like yaaaaas ?...

  • Oretta Grace Smith

    And Dionne Is 100% Right, Now!!!!

  • Scorpio

    Agreed! Where's Janet Jackson?

  • Gloria

    I don't know who is orchestrating it, but the market for black singers is so small, Kim Kardashian's IQ couldn't fit in it.

    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

    I can’t with you Lmao!!! ???

  • Bree

    Beyonce's performances are iconic, she isn't. She sells illusions and that's what baffles me about her. She sold out for the almighty dollar. When you take from the enemy he always come back to collect. Ask MJ.

  • yvette46

    She is telling nothing but truth!!

  • Tamara Artis-Dawkins

    We all have an opinion. When Bey is 70 she will say the same thing!!!!!!

  • Robert lee Bennett OG

    Beyoncé voice do not sound rare to me plenty of people can mimic its. But I don’t think Anita Baker or Patti could be reproduced..enough money and Beyoncé can be made again

  • Bree

    Mrs. Carter is in the same boat as Brittney Spears, Ashanti, Christina Aguilera, etc, etc. Destiny's Child is more legendary than she is.

  • Rayscoty

    Mary J Bilge is iconic status...

  • Chicagowise

    Ok. I'll behave. I think. ?

  • Dollface

    Shut up Dionne you could never sing! Always sounded horse to me.

  • stacee

    In the words of 2Chainz "True"

  • Robert lee Bennett OG

    The white supremacist was going to give the torch to Rihanna, but decided against it

  • Witch

    They want to be chosen

    Dont want to be call too black or nappy or as Cardi B calls us A ROACH.

  • Nik

    Congratulations!????????

  • missmiami305

    She’s right. The same can be said regarding rappers. https://media1.giphy.com/media/qnOBmH70CGSVa/giphy.gif

  • Nik

    Well stated.

  • Oretta Grace Smith

    No ma'am!!! Not like Aretha now, noooooo. And I Highly Respect Beyonce's work ethic.

  • joel adams

    Lol. She didn’t have a lot range did she.

  • Chicagowise

    Oooh! Thank you for reminding me of Alfie! Fantastic song!

    It sounds like we agree. Beyonce's songs are like fast food. Dionne's material is a gourmet meal.

  • CardiB’sAbs

    Lolol she’s in the minority.

  • Chicagowise

    I'm sure you heard the first song. It was a major hit.

  • CardiB’sAbs

    Lolol what a crock of shit

  • Gloria

    I totally agree!

  • https://instagram.com/uptown2501 Uptown2501

    Naw Christina can sing sing . she'll blow Beyonce out the water

  • Coy little wink

    Off key too much so umm gonna have to dissent

  • Oretta Grace Smith

    Like so many crazy others!!!

  • Brown & Proud

    Shes right about Beyonce, however, we have a couple iconic singers in our generation. Erykah Badu, Jill Scott, Mary J Blige, Ledisi.. to me they are living legends.

  • Coy little wink

    Sounds like she is referencing lyrical content not just sanging

    I'd give Mariah iconic status

  • Oretta Grace Smith

    True and talk about hide his hand.

  • Oretta Grace Smith

    Even More single!!!

  • Rayscoty

    She still relevant 27 years later. People are still listening and buying her music from 1992..

  • Oretta Grace Smith

    They brought the stripper right out the club and we can tell.

  • ALLMINE?

    Then who?

  • NeverSurprised

    "I'd give Mariah iconic status."
    -------------''
    Actually, I would as well.

  • Maxx

    It doesn't have to be anyone if they all suck

  • ALLMINE?

    Both of them will be remembered. Beyonce will be way more respected tho..

  • jeniefrumdabloc™

    I still love Celine Dion Chile!!!

  • ALLMINE?

    Naww that's crazy

  • PrettyNetty28

    Dionne resembles Teyana Taylor too me.

  • PrettyNetty28

    But of course.

  • TeeJay

    I'm glad you said "to YOU".

  • PrettyNetty28

    You know what.???

  • Navybeans95

    She's entitled to her opinion..I guess...don't u just love it when someone from the ole school start talking shit like they kno everything....lol

  • Scorpio

    Caron Wheeler, is the lady from Soul II Soul. She disappeared, but was so talented.

  • Oretta Grace Smith

    Maybe someone in another music genre. But Not On Aretha's level now. Whitney maybe close.

  • TeeJay

    Hoarse. I fixed that for you.

  • ALLMINE?

    Who?

  • ALLMINE?

    I can't ?

  • MrsSpice1

    Agreed. And thats why i detest when ppl disrespect Whitney houston, Michael Jackson, Prince and the last ouf our legendary singers! The ones that can sing arent as popular or respected anymore!! And trust me there’s many that can become legendy but very few people even know who they are..you gotta literally go on a treasure hunt for good music! Thank God i know of a few ?...i just hope that they dont go hollywierd and lose their substance. Including rappers!

  • TeeJay

    Michael had Vitiligo.

  • KcoolMuziq

    "Years before he died, Prince tried to convince Beyonce to learn to play piano. He thought that if she learned to play an instrument, it would improve the quality of her work."

    That's EXACTLY right! But to Beyonce's credit Prince(r.i.p.) also said that Beyonce SURPRISINGLY ALREADY knew her scales.

  • Oretta Grace Smith

    I like this new country-rap singer, Little Nas X!!!

  • Sassie

    hee hee

  • Coffee1st

    Whooooaaa!
    Wait!
    I thought this chic was dead.....
    Smh. Wth????

  • Dollface

    that too... lmaoooo

  • jeniefrumdabloc™

    I love that woman !!!!

  • 1BlueStar

    *Channeling 2Chainz when i say "Truuue"!

  • ALLMINE?

    I've never heard it..?

  • Coffee1st

    You wrong.
    Dead wrong.
    And you KNOW why....????

  • Witch

    Strippers should sue the music industry for plagiarism

  • Witch

    Please. That whole family is bleaching if not with lotions they are bleaching their kids through sex with other races. They've carved down their noses and permed their heads like crazy. Lets not pretend anymore.

  • The Art

    That's her opinion and she has the right to it. But in my opinion, Gladys Knight, Lionel Ritchie and many other classic and iconic singers are still very much alive and well.

  • Oretta Grace Smith

    Try to Google it. Little Nas X remix with Billy Ray Cyrus!!! The song, "Old Town Road" is the number 1 song in the world today, Seventh week on the Billboard and growing.

  • The Art

    Nah you gotta hear the old Dionne, she could sing.

  • Li-Wright

    She may mean by generation. Celine, jHud, Chaka. but a lot of today's singers mix singing with endorsements and acting. Not too many singers have major recording contracts so they don't have writers to write iconic long lasting songs. A lot of collaborating with rappers.

  • ALLMINE?

    I've heard of it I should force myself to listen to the radio more..

  • RICHIE_RICH

    To each it’s own. Beyonce is to me ?????

  • Coffee1st

    Imho:
    Beyonce's hustle is astronomical.... that's what's most iconic about her.
    But.... someone else will come along with a just as pretty face and a just as shapely body, wearing onesies as well and take the world by storm.
    She's done well good herself (by the world's standards) but I just don't see Icon.

  • KcoolMuziq

    Actually Prince(r.i.p) had a minor hit in Oct 2005 just a mere few months of his transitioning with the smash "1000 X's & O's" .....

  • Li-Wright

    But those singers don't have major contracts. And many of the songs they sing are forgettable.

  • KcoolMuziq

    "What we know about Prince comes from the Dave Chapelle skits."

    What a lost! U must be 12..

  • E-VannaRootsAllEvil

    Ummmm boo u not an icon eiither!

  • Trucie bedford

    The thing I feel about iconic singers is that they have songs that highlight their vocal powerhouse abilities. Whitney, Mariah, Toni, Celine all have songs that emphasize their vocal talents. Those songs become timeless classics so I feel that's where todays singers falls short! You have a lot of good singers todays whose music just isnt hitting that timeless and classic mark. So it's more than just vocals, its having the songs to go with it. That's my take on it so in that regard I have to agree with Dionne Warwick

  • 100milesperhour

    Yes. Beyonce's voice is strong, but she uses it on silly songs. Dionne would never survive in today's industry w/that stale, monotone pitch.

  • Coffee1st
  • Hazel

    It's pathetic when our elders are haters. Especially when they themselves couldn't get it done. Dionne and Jessie Jackson come to mind....

  • Oretta Grace Smith

    Or check out the reactions to it on YouTube!!!

  • Coffee1st

    "Todays trendy or generational icons are only for their time"
    Yes! Hit the nail on the head....TIMELESS. And she's just not.

  • ALLMINE?

    Who? Brandy?

  • KcoolMuziq

    Also 'No Sleep','Any Time Any place', 'Because of Love',That's the way love goes, & the Oscar nominated "Again"...

  • Mielle Downey

    I see no lies because technology had masked how terrible they sound and even my 4 year old nieces know how to shake a tail feather and lipscync. All the singers now are pretty much manufactured. Dionne is coming from a time where singers could sang and not autotune and model for the gram.

  • Joy King

    It takes much more than an amazing voice to be an icon unless you're Whitney Houston. The natural tone of her voice and vocal skills will always be my favorite. With that being said, everyone commenting about artists who you they believe can sing better than Beyonce. If vocals is all it takes to be considered an icon, then we can go to any local church right now and find people who can match or out sing everyone you're naming, which to me makes them replaceable. An icon is irreplaceable.

    Other icons like MJ and Prince could sing, perform, write music, play instruments...do it all. Even Usher to me is an icon. If you've ever seen Usher live in concert, then you know what I'm talking about. Again, I'm not a Beyonce fan but I respect her work ethic. She may not be the absolute best singer but I believe she has a great voice and she's an amazing performer. A combination of those things to me makes her an icon.

  • grenadiadrian

    Well I think the internet has a winner for the day. ?

  • Topic Influencer

    Ma'am. Your sister was a whole ass child molester. If Nicki got tossed by many bc of Jehlani, Ms. Warwick you can certainly kick rocks.

    And last time I checked Patti and Diana are still on this earth. They are iconic. Gladys still here. Many.

    Now gone Dionne. Shit https://media2.giphy.com/media/4GIvR6cmYs8jC/giphy.gif

  • Renee26

    Ok, I listened I do know that one and San Jose ... First time hearing the others though

  • Mielle Downey

    BEYONCE =MUMBLING SINGER

  • Topic Influencer

    Usher live best concert I've personally ever been to. And I'm a Janet fanatic and have been to all but 1 tour of hers since 1990. Says a lot. She is great! But Usher is awesome.

  • Well$$Well$$?

    Beyonce's a talented entertainer but no I would'nt say she has the voice of an Aretha or Mariah Mariah Carey...I just think auntie Dionne is from a different era. Music today just isnt the same as it was 40 years ago, hell even 20 years ago...

  • Yardgirl

    Thank you!!! I have never looked at Dionne the same since she appeared on Celebrity Apprentice and showed us a nasty side that was heartbreaking for me. Now git, gwaan miss lady.

  • Coffee1st

    Naw..... you just don't have thr depth it takes to appreciate an artist like Prince. That man was a walking musical note. As years progressed, the music business became less and less about music.
    Lol. Imagine that.
    Not trying to be funny at all. But its like the generation who came up on by scratch meals compared to the ones who came up with boxed/ freezer meals. The latter can't compare. Damn shame what the music biz has become. It's a joke and the younger generations actually take it seriously.

  • Topic Influencer

    My daddy LOVED this lady tho. Like in his mind he was married to Dionne. Maybe I sideline never liked her bc of it?. Ole plain ass woman. I was shocked when I was old enough to find out she was his long time celeb crush. Dionne Warrrrwickkk?

  • Renee26

    I didn't watch... What she do/say??

  • Trucie bedford

    Mariah is iconic status??

  • Trucie bedford

    Right U R. Toni is legend.??

  • Coffee1st

    Lawd that woman can sang.
    Keker Wyatt too.
    Keke touched tho....??

  • NewNew

    I agree with Ms. Warwick

  • T Willis

    Yt woman drag and Latina drag?? ??????...
    yo you nailed it ??

  • Renee26

    Usher was cool... He still dances and I was mad at myself cause I thought he looked sexy after the scandal ?... My favorite concert experiences have been Janet, Fantasia, Mary J and Stephanie Mills in that order

  • Coffee1st

    I haven't either but when they reject all the singers that do, it's pretty clear

  • Faithz

    Dionne You had your time let Beyonce have her's.

  • NewNew

    Did you attend The Velvet Rope tour? Usher opened for her in my city. What a show, I'll never forget it. ??

  • Trucie bedford

    They try to make her the standard! Which unfortunately everyone goes along with. The women you mention are amazing singers but they don't get the play Beyonce does because it's all about money and catering to young folks. Beyonce is good but her catalog of music needs some work.

  • Coffee1st

    Rocket Love n All I Do ????

  • Renee26

    Giggles

  • NewNew

    Agreed

  • Yardgirl

    Lol at dad's crush on her!! I guess she was all that back in the day, but hunty, she is a salty old lady now a days.

  • doriday

    Oh My. How do you appreciate someone and knock them down at the same time. Huh? Nope. No. No. No. So rude.

  • NewNew

    Mary is the truth. Her music males you feel something. What's The 411 & Mary are classics

  • ClaireHuxtable

    Prince gave the best concert I've ever seen. You literally couldn't take your eye off of him! He was all over the stage. I was worn out after he was over.
    MJ was a close second, but he had special effects and background stuff to look at.
    Jan was a good entertainer. She danced her b^tt off.

  • Renee26

    Swear and she shuts her concerts down! I've been to 5 and never the same songs...always different hits. She got jams and is unforgettable

  • ClaireHuxtable

    Steph is still a lil firecracker. I saw her a few years ago. Didn't miss a beat.

  • doriday

    Beyonce is an icon for this generation.

  • Renee26

    Baby the other day I was bumpin "I Can Love You"... and damn near broke my arm cause I was so hype rappin Lil Kim verse ?

  • Witch

    Her powerful voice is like magic . I cant believe someone can sing like that. Thanks for the name.

  • Renee26

    With her all male band of sexiness

  • ClaireHuxtable

    "don't have writers to write "
    You don't often hear songs now that have timeless lyrics.

  • T Willis

    Talented, yes. Political, conniving, manipulative, and ruthless? Absolutely. Industry insiders have been whispering about her thuggish corporate maneuvers to block and silence her competitors. These rumors go back to the Destinys Child days in ‘97, ‘99. Beyonce is very political and works hard to block those that can overtake her.

  • Coffee1st

    Man...fuhreal.... feel like I'm having a Mandela Effect ???????????????

  • Robert lee Bennett OG

    Oh cardi B and all them island Hispanics call blacks chicks all kinds of burnt biscuits and nappy headed hoes.. and laugh at them because they wear weaves ...

  • Reenaface

    She told no lies especially about Beyonce. She had the potential to be a classic artist but she has to compete with the Ariana's and Cardi B's which leaves her music to sound nursery like. But it's not just B, R&B music is stale even when I try to listen to the new artists out there, their songs are either revenge type of songs or sex me up type of songs and I hate to hear the N word in a so called R&B song. Love is timeless but today's music reflects the hook up culture it's like artists are scared to sing about love like it's boring or something.

  • CardiB’sAbs

    “You just don’t have the depth it takes” FULL STOP. I don’t like Prince’s music so that means I lack depth. Piss off with that bullshit statement. I don’t have to like or enjoy his music in order to have depth. You old hoes can keep Prince. We don’t even play Prince at family cookouts and we have plenty of old school music on rotation. He might’ve been you all’s musical hero but he’s been reduced to a basketball playing, pancake cooking caricature to many.

  • Renee26

    I think she was speaking only of this current wave of artist (called em babies) then commented on Bey cause she asked directly. Ion think she meant there are none alive ?

  • Elecktra

    So all it takes is light skin huh? So why aren’t singers like Tiny Harris, Tinashe or Elle Varner superstars? How did MJ rise to meteoric superstar status as part of the Jacksons (who are all dark) and then with his subsequent solo projects Off the Wall and Thriller even before he started bleaching away his alleged vitiligo condition? How did dark skinned women such as Whitney, Janet, Mary J Blige, Brandi and Kelly Price all have considerable success in spite of having darker complexions? And now emerging R&B stars like SZA, Normani and HER?

    There is no denying that the issue of colorism exists in the industry but that doesn’t mean that a light skinned star like Beyoncé doesn’t deserve her success. Beyonce still has to work 10x as hard as these mediocre white pop stars to prove herself. Dark skinned women need to stop with the woe is me crap as a guise to tear other women down. Look inside of yourselves and admit the truth behind your resentment.

  • ClaireHuxtable

    Dionne & Burt were one h3lluva team!

  • CardiB’sAbs

    A grown woman that never liked Prince’s music or had an interest in it and only knew of anything else about him from a comedy show.

  • doriday

    Stuck on her self.

  • ALLMINE?

    And that's a bad thing? ???? good let someone overtake u?

  • Coffee1st

    Hater.
    That word has been
    sorely overused and is currently in retirement to give it's poor soul a break.
    He's tired Hazel. Have some respect and let him rest.

  • doriday

    If a survey was done most people today do not know who Dionne Warwick is,other than that she is related to Whitney.

  • NewNew

    ?Who you lovin', who you wanna be huggin'??
    I miss the 90's

  • NewNew

    Most people are missing out then.

  • Renee26

    Well honey she is alive and well

  • Coffee1st

    Lol. You big mad....or lil mad.
    Go smoke one then come back to the keyboard babygirl. Not that serious. Besides, I thought you was just on here to start chit???
    Looks like you took the bait...??

  • Yardgirl

    It's been a while since it aired but I just remember her being nasty and I was so disappointed. It's like when I first saw Latoya Jackson and thought she was going to be dumb but she turned out to be so sweet and gentle. Dionne not so much lol

  • Witch

    In the words of Jermaine Dupree
    "It is very hard to promote darkskin female artist" ...

  • doriday

    I agree. This generation is not being exposed to that kind of music any. I was grooving to a Sister Sledge song awhile back. My daughter had no clue.

  • Coffee1st

    Well I guess she is.
    Let me go take my Namenda.

  • Witch

    Jermaine Dupri was just on The Breakfast Club talking about colorism in the music industry. Dupri, a manager, exec, and producer, said that it's harder to break darker Black female singers.

  • CardiB’sAbs

    Smoking is for losers.

  • Anji

    Classic, iconic singers have vocal gifts that supercede "entertainers" of this generation. Classic singers need no electronics or lipsynching skills. They can strike an audience of thousands breathless without dancing or showing skin. Most are musicians even if by ear only. I was a church musician for decades and taught music at University. There are classic singers all over from every era but they may not be popular singers. I am amazed by voices that will never get or need airplay, fame or great fortune. Bey could never. It wasn't her particular gift but she's good enough for most.

  • Topic Influencer

    She was just plain af looking back then too.

  • Reenaface

    Also, I read that there will be a concert featuring Whitney's hologram with a new album. I like Whitney but I don't know about attending a hologram concert but I feel that the fact that someone had to resurrect her hologram shows where the state of music is, the gutter..... I am interested in her new music though.

  • Yardgirl

    You aint lying!!

  • JustB

    She is correct...even some of the songs I used to love 10 yrs ago hurt my ears now

  • SemajBeyPhilly

    I’m sorry but Dionne isn’t a legend. I don’t know one song from her. Just because u been in the game 40yrs doesn’t make u a legend.

  • ClaireHuxtable

    Ain't nuthin wrong with a lil testosterone therapy.

  • JennyJazzhands

    And on top of that we have jazmin Sullivan and fantasia, etc.
    I know a lot of people like to slam beyonce for singing and dancing and radio hits like single ladies, but not only does she have gems on each album there are incredible singers that just sing if that's not your cup of tea.

  • Witch

    During her interview, Amara stated how difficult it is for someone as dark-skinned as she is to have a career in music because producers and executives see her as less marketable than the Jennifer Lopez's and Cardi B’s of this world.

  • Rhyme and Reason

    Ms. Warwick is speaking of the music (lyrically and the musicality), not the iconic status or talent of Beyoncé!

    Beyoncé is a MUSIC ICON and LEGENDARY as she puts in some more years like Janet or Mariah! She’s still in her 30’s.

    When you watch the singing competition shows, The Voice or Idol, how many people sing their songs, and which songs do they sing?

    Who’s remaking their songs?

    How many artists can get a top hit from the same song, in the same era or beyond? Bruno Mars and...IDK...

    I.E. “Say a Little Prayer for You” or how Diana Ross, Marvin Gaye, Gladys Knight or Aretha Franklin remade hit songs!

    How much of today’s music are classics or will be vivid, song in the future by new generations of music listeners and artists, time will tell!

  • Anji

    Yes. It was a simpler time when us folk never saw our own images in gowns and coifed so regally. Dion was a rare crossover but she was considered glam for that day. I worked with that heifer...but that's another tale.

  • Reenaface

    I do the same when I hear classic music in CVS.
    "Why do you have to be a heartbreaker,
    When I was bein' what you want me to be ?
    Suddenly everything I ever wanted has passed me by,
    This world may end, not you and I." Dionne Warwick "Heartbreaker".?????

  • doriday

    If you are talking about talent that's another subject. Icon status has little to do our opinion about whether or not their talented enough. The Rolling Stones and the Beatles are Icons but I don't enjoy their music.If I had to choose the Supremes would be my choice.

  • JennyJazzhands

    Right. People used to say whitney couldn't sing and was too pop when "how will I know" came out. We'll just see who's still standing 20 years from now. Dionne didn't stand the test of time herself.

  • ClaireHuxtable

    Nope. No holograms for me.

  • Coffee1st

    So are folks who throw tantrums on social media.

  • Witch

    And I don't have a woe is me attitude I just tell it how it is. You're bring dismissive because socially you benefit from colorism ... I know all the tactics you chicks use to dismiss and deflect from this very important issue.

  • ALLMINE?

    The Superbowl killed Janet's legacy. She's my favourite female popstar..

  • T Willis

    Lol that would be like me paying the CEOs of every big firm in your field to *not* hire you because I viewed you as a threat. Knowing that you have no financial backing to block my attacks or compete against me. Is it still funny? Lol

  • Reenaface

    I remember some years back when Tupac's hologram appeared during a concert. It looked just like him, then it started rapping and I was like 'um??'

  • Rhyme and Reason

    Look at the songwriters from her era, not just the songs or singers! The record labels lowered the bar on All music!

    Stevie Nicks Vs. Taylor Swift

    The video and the total package superseded vocals or musicality!

  • Elecktra

    It’s difficult for black female artists period regardless of complexion. But let’s not act as if Beyonce hasn’t been out here working her ass off for the past 2 decades. Her success has been years in the making, starting from the early days when her and Destinys Child were performing as kids on Star Search. She doesn’t deserve to be dismissed just because darker women have it hard when every black female artist struggles in the male dominated industry. Even Beyonce.

  • Reenaface

    ??????

  • Rhyme and Reason

    I agree!

    The definition of iconic is different from Dionne’s era!

  • Yardgirl

    OK so I'll wait with bathed breath for that tale of yours but can you just confirm if she was as nasty as she was on Apprentice? I mean I am not sure why I was shocked but I was lol!!

  • ALLMINE?

    Yes. There's nothing new under the sun. She's the only person in the world that has done shady shit to stay on top..

  • Anji

    They didn't have electronics so they had to know everything musically. Most even played an instrument. Singers barring classical have a lot of crutches. Greatest singers are never heard by masses anyway.

  • IyanlaVanzantoftheInterWebs

    https://media3.giphy.com/media/5CyJGORW8UrZe/giphy.gif

    Beyonce stans flooding this thread?? My spidey sense tells me YES??

  • Witch

    So just ignore the way darkskin women are treated? Sorry but your gaslighting technique needs work.

  • Anji

    Nope. Her strength was sounding middle of the road with a cool vibrato white audiences could accept.

  • CardiB’sAbs

    Lolol you thought that was a “tantrum”. I just clearly and succinctly stated my opinion.

  • Nathan Hastings

    She is vile. Lost respect for her after watching her behavior on the show.

  • Nathan Hastings

    She's a cranky old bitty.

  • Bea Mack,Aka Steel Vagina

    She’s a truthful, cranky old bitty.

    There- I fixed it for you

  • Anji

    Recordings are electronically enhanced. Hell, many stage performances since the mid 70s are enhanced. I hate autotune.

  • IyanlaVanzantoftheInterWebs

    That gif tickles me each time you use it and in MY MIND, this gif is your response to a LOT of stuff that you deem is nonsense ???

  • doriday

    Question: Who here knows who Liberace is? He is legend too.

  • Bea Mack,Aka Steel Vagina

    When was the truth always nice? ?????

  • DeepThinker

    She’s right!

  • Rhyme and Reason

    You’re so right! Tweet said, “ all the R&B sounds the same!”

    The music producer and production became bigger than the singer. Most black female singers under-sing!

    I watched YouTube Elle “Song Association” challenge, and hearing singing voices a cappella was lovely...but the music often underwhelms because it’s boxed in, limited!

  • IyanlaVanzantoftheInterWebs

    Me.. The man Was the ORIGINAL king of bling!

  • Elecktra

    Oh please, nobody has dismissed anything. There is more than one side to every issue, but all you want to hear is information that caters to your closed minded narrative. Now ask dark skinned Lauryn Hill, who is an AOTY recipient which is an award that light skinned Beyonce has never won, why she can’t ever show up to performances on time and when she does arrive, she gives about 25%. Meanwhile Beyonce ain’t never late to any show and gives 200%.

  • Anji

    Not a fan but have enjoyed watching her steady progression in perfecting her craft. I recall her voice from her early years. She put in the work and is multifaceted in entertainment.

  • Bea Mack,Aka Steel Vagina

    Me ?????

  • IyanlaVanzantoftheInterWebs

    ANITA BAKER ??Baby Come To Me?

  • Witch

    Have a good day. I'm busy now. No time to go back and forth. Just block me.

  • Rhyme and Reason

    I think she meant younger artists, Lionel and Gladys K. are iconic and legendary from the 60s and 70s!

  • Renee26

    Ok!!!

  • Coffee1st

    ??? You shop at CityTrends...dontcha???
    I kid, I kid. Enjoy the rest of your evening.... this "old hoe" is logging off.

  • Renee26

    ?

  • Bea Mack,Aka Steel Vagina

    Hate to bust your icon bubble... but Regina Belle sings this song ??????

  • the guest

    First two words that came to my mind too!

  • Yardgirl

    Right!! It been a while and no lie, I am still thinking about it. SMH

  • Renee26

    Me tooo!! Those were my prime years

  • Reenaface

    I couldn't believe that I heard 'Games people play' by The Spinners on the overhead speaker while shopping in CVS. I felt a rush of excitement and had to stop myself from belting along because they usually play today's pop music. It seems to be a world wide epidemic and everyone's feeling the void left in music there's no depth.

  • doriday

    Boby Womack

  • IyanlaVanzantoftheInterWebs

    Thats what I gathered too! If she was referring to EVERYBODY, then she is Dead A$$ Wrong?

  • davine puddin

    Alot of the music would hold up if these producers and dj stop inserting themselves in the songs. Can you imagine Candy Rain someone shouting "mike will made it" or "we the best"?

  • the guest

    Beyonce is a megastar and worldwide celebrity.

    She is NOT an icon or legendary singer.

  • IyanlaVanzantoftheInterWebs

    Yes. Even though I am not a fan FAN, I give credit where credit is due!

  • Anji

    Playing the piano does in fact strengthen vocal skills and builds the musical ear. Many singers are not musicians but many musicians are exceptional singers. Made all my vocal clients learn piano.

  • CardiB’sAbs

    Lolol I use the term “hoe” loosely that and “Bitch”. I could see how that would seem tantrumish since y’all don’t know me. No harm meant.

  • IyanlaVanzantoftheInterWebs

    Mary J is about there too! She has quite a catalog and some classics too!

  • Reenaface

    Okay! Tell me that Elton John didn't tear up his verse in 'That's what friends are for'.?? And R&B is nothing but a pretty face with a long weave and a wind machine behind it.

  • Yardgirl

    Dead!! I watched DJ Khalid on SNL and I was dumbfounded by his performance. All's he did was shout out "DJ Khalid" "Father of Ashaad" and have a bunch of famous rappers come on stage and do some bars. I was like WTF??

  • doriday

    Look up the definition of legend and icon. Beyonce and Jay Z fit in both categories.

  • IyanlaVanzantoftheInterWebs
  • joel adams

    Facts. She is a smoker. Anybody could duplicate her songs and do it better

  • IyanlaVanzantoftheInterWebs

    I agree! Mary is DEFINITELY up there in Status!

  • Anji

    Knowing "scales"?? reflects nothing of performance musicianship excepting classical. It's a warm up tool but the phrase "knowing scales" is confusing. A trained seal can sing notes arranged in Western music fashion.

  • IyanlaVanzantoftheInterWebs
  • IyanlaVanzantoftheInterWebs

    Good stuff!

  • Witch

    She's been sued for stealing other people's work . Her father should get the praise actually. Even he said there is bias against darkskin female singers. You girls need to stop with all this put in work garbage. I never said she didnt do any work IF SHE WERE DARKSKIN SHE WOULDN'T BE GIVEN THE CHANCE TO PUT IN WORK. Darkskin people have to get put on in slave movies to get a break or playing a maid. The female love interest is also a lightskin chick and the ugly best friend they use someone darkskin regardless of how beautiful she is.

  • Daryl Campbell

    I must agree with Ms Warwick; A great number of legendary Black singers have passed. Those remaining have not eclipsed those that have passed.

  • Reenaface

    I remember in a documentary about Motown how the artists were sent to school to learn how to walk, talk, pose, and even eat properly. Today, it's like they grab these artists off the streets and places a microphone in their face and says to them ' go perform'.

  • Anji

    Alfie. Excellent songwriting. Dionnes delivery smooth and mellow!

  • IyanlaVanzantoftheInterWebs

    Lol!
    ???

    She is my fave too!! How are he bumbaclot I mixed those two stunning voices up?? Shame on me ?

  • Witch

    I hate to sound like i am making fun of them because I truly care I really do

  • what?why

    She's absolutely right - Beyonce is a manufactured sex symbol with an average voice, at best.

  • Wile E. Coli

    That's for sure. Beyonce isn't really a singer. She's a comic character and a lame assed dancer.

  • Wile E. Coli

    neither of them do. Unless the bar has been lowered into the gutter.

  • CookieMobster

    No lies were told in my opinion. I bet with out studio effects none of these broads sound any better than a cat in heat.

  • KcoolMuziq

    LMAO

    Nevertheless Prince{r.I.p} was impressed with it.

  • ??Dotty??

    She is right.

  • KcoolMuziq

    Ok I’ll accept that. But U should check him out . He has over 40 albums in his short career span. Not to mention a vault full of thousands of unreleased songs.

  • NewNew

    Yaaaaaaaas! Can't wait to see her and Nas in concert. I'm about to act a damn fool!! ???

  • doriday

    See.That is the way you feel. What is the dictionary definition of the words legend and icon? You don't like them does not change the fact that they are legends.

  • MRiGOThim

    PREACH!!!!

  • Witch

    I noticed up top people say they were done with Mrs. Dionne Warwick because of her attitude on the apprentice but after all the vile and nasty things Cardi said about black women's skin and hair and the way she bullied that African girl BLACK WOMEN GAVE CARDI A WHOLE CAREER. Colorist psychosis is real.

  • Wile E. Coli

    Jeffery Dahmer was a legend as well.

  • Anji

    After a decades long career in performance, teaching and as an A&R rep I would never try to compare the eras. Media, technology and magic tricks change the arts and the game tremendously. Separate singers from songs. Artists from entertainers. People get distracted by personal opinions and the facts of popularity, fame and wealth over true artistry. Today is a day of images and wizardry but there will always be great singers. I've watched great voices dimmed by labels for quick money and poor singers gain worldwide fame.

  • Witch

    Dark and Brown women are not allowed to have attitudes only lighter women and biracial.

  • PetiteButterScotch

    Nope lies told. I dnt know any of Beyonces songs

  • doriday

    That is right, he is a legendary killer. Do we like him, no. It still does not change the fact that he is a legend.

  • Witch

    Lol you're funny. I am crying. My stomach hurts. Thanks for coming. Oh my goodness. Tears.

  • Anji

    I think most do but I sing with symphony orchestras. He was most known as an original Vegas residency.

  • Anji

    We still alive lil gal. Lol

  • dontgetblocked

    She speaks the truth. Mariah was on her way until she lost her voice.

  • doriday

    But Jeffrey Dahmer is way more famous.

  • Witch

    The lead woman from the group

    BROWNSTONE

    has a MAGNIFICENTificent singer all day long. Earlier I said the woman from Soul || Soul (Caron Wheeler) but also forgot to name the lady from Brownstone.

  • Solstice

    ??????

  • Witch

    Y'all are hurting my stomach. I can't take it. Lol

  • Eileen

    very true!

  • Elecktra

    You are right. Life only happens the way you perceive it. Don’t let any of us interrupt your tunnel vision with a broader perspective. The fact that the trend has been more dark skinned actresses in leading roles than light skin means absolutely nothing. Beautiful dark women like Viola Davis, Regina King, Lupita Nyngo, Gabrielle Union, Tika Sumpter, Angela Basset, YaYa Dacosta, Taraji P Henson and many others are proof of the fact that light skinned women get all of the breaks in life. Dark skinned women will never break thru.

    Oh and yes, we all tune in to see Beyonce perform because we know it’s really Matthew Knowles performing all of the choreography while belting out tunes in that 4-octave vocal range of his.

  • Elecktra

    Sorry but your vocabulary needs more work. You don’t even know what the term gaslighting means, which is why you ignorantly use it in the wrong context. It’s clear that you simply aren’t very smart.

  • Chicagowise

    Look at Aretha and Whitney Houston. Both of them played piano. When I started playing piano, not only did my vocal abilities expand, it opened up a whole new level of songwriting. My compositions became much more sophisticated stylistically and lyrically.

  • doriday

    Marilyn Monroe, Greta Garbo, Lena Horne, Dorothy Dandridge, Rachel Welch... Sex symbols. All legends and iconic.

  • Anji

    I go back to my college days when I just began in the industry...70s with Dionne the 1st time. She was nasty and uninformative to black students at USC. Not one sentence was above her love of herself and she was there as a clinician. Ok...its my practice to uplift our future. As a sound engineer in the 80s I had to work with her and she was consistently rude. Her attitude belied any claim to great artistry.

  • Chicagowise

    A coup of days ago, I was in Walgreens and they were playing People Make the World Go Round by The Stylistics. A young cashier, maybe in her early 20s, knew every word! When I got to the register, I asked her, "little girl, what do know about that music?" She said, "I know that if it weren't for that music, my generation's music wouldn't exist." I wanted to hug her! LMAO

  • Anji

    By the write up I didn't get she was implying herself..at all. I took it to mean in general. Industry changes. Best voices may be on YouTube?

  • Anji

    Dam. I'm in the industry and Never claimed there wasn't a bias in promotion . Historically darker skins meant singing blues or gospel. Had to powder many to lighten for jazz even. Has NADA to do with who works hard or hardly works. An artist can practice outside Euro based industry.

  • Truth Or Die

    Well written post

  • Anji

    Also. I was darkened to play an African...so? Hollywood has never defined me. She's an entertainer. Matty is a manager. A breed I detest overall.

  • Anji

    Cecily Tyson?

  • the guest

    THIS!!!!!

  • the guest

    EXACTLY!

  • Khaliah

    I agree with Dionne: We only got two powerhouse voices left, and that's Gladys Knight and Patti LaBelle. I thought Jennifer Hudson would rise to the occasion, but she doesn't put out enough music.

  • Khaliah

    And don't forget, Beyonce is a car wash singer; school lunch line singer; Fotomat singer; dogpark singer. Everything but a singer singer.

  • bemetoo

    So was Ted Bundy

  • Coy little wink

    Trust I'm a fan I listen to her all the time but classic singer I just think so...

  • currvalicious

    They straight grabbing these people off of YouTube! Get enough hits (whateve they call it), & you get a recording contract. It's amazing.

  • Scorpio

    Jennifer seems like she is mean in real life. Something comes across as not nice. But she did seem poised to be one of the next voices, but it hasn't happened yet as far as the Whitney's and Patti's for one thing her style is too old for her age.

  • ?? Kari ?????????

    I thought Hudson too! But she’s had it tough after her family was murdered.

  • Dowoop

    She should trace her steps to see where she left it.

  • currvalicious

    So very true. Artists were a true reflection of their label who in turn truly invested in the artists. It was a well oiled machine. Talent, though exceptional, was only part of the process.

  • currvalicious

    Thanks.

  • Yardgirl

    Thanks for sharing that! It validates what we saw on the Apprentice, a rude nasty woman. Dang.

  • Seldomseen

    Lol

  • Seldomseen

    Not Michelle Duggar....she doesn’t mind pushing them out

  • Seldomseen

    Lmao, like she looking for car keys

  • Evillene

    I thought she was a "lounge" singer.

  • Evillene

    Chaka Khan and Dame Shirley Bassey are still alive, so that makes 4.

  • Solstice

    LMMFAO!!!! ?????? So true!! ?

  • Evillene

    True. A talent like Aretha could be out there but if she isn't light skinned with a big butt and a long weave we'll never hear from her.

  • Overpower Radio

    Yes, hers was a hit ..but for us it sounds dated. You'd still prefer Luther's version. For me, over time as my appreciation grew for music from that era, I now like to listen to Dionne's version from time to time too.

    Look up "Don't Make Me Over" - that's my favorite by her ..but also "A House Is Not A Home", "Anyone Who Had a Heart" (still a great version in comparison to Luther) ...and "Make it Easy on Yourself" ........those are the few tracks in my library from her that I still appreciate from her in her prime.

  • Wayup!

    I hear no lies being told...B. can shake up a crowd...like a burlesque Dancer at Vegas she got vocals but iconic NO .. She keeps reminding us of her hits every time she does a show...20 years from now her greatest hits
    Survivor
    Bootylious
    Dangerously in Love album.. maybe
    Put a ring on it....?

  • Solstice

    ?????!!!!

  • Evillene

    She's been in the game for almost 60 years and, yes, she is a LEGEND. You should check her ou t.

  • Wayup!

    That 2

  • Evillene

    Thank you!

  • Wayup!

    ????????

  • Reenaface

    That's true there!

  • Stan4NoOne

    Facts.

  • Wayup!

    OMG...,??

  • YouWontSayItButIWill

    How people are STILL listening to Michael, Pattie Labelle, Whitney, Luther, Aretha....decades later. Their songs are played in weddings and more. I doubt anyone will put on single ladies, formation, and big ego 15 years from now. Beyonce makes songs for that moment........nothing to be remembered.

  • Reenaface

    Aww?? It's always nice to see the younger generation giving props to real music. I remember when I went to Starbucks and Sugar Pie Honey (I can't help myself) by the Four Tops was playing. And the white cashier who looked like Andy Dick's twin(comedian) was bopping his head and singing and he looked at me and asked "how did we get from this type of classic music to rap crap". I was like?????. But at least he had good taste. Lol!

  • Wayup!

    ?..?Bihhhhh???.

  • YouWontSayItButIWill

    I heard that. Is it true? They say if you have seen one of her shows...you have seen them all. I hear it's the same routines, choreography, and hair blowing from the fan. Nothing new......and nothing ever original.

  • Reenaface

    Or a dancer. Whitney(RIP) would never.

  • YouWontSayItButIWill

    What dictionary did you look in? It couldn't have been Websters.

  • Wayup!

    Dionne WAS the Whitney of her day

  • Harley

    Her Coachella performance was like no other included bands from black colleges and everything....so not sure where people are getting her shoes are the same from

  • Harley

    ??

  • brooklyn23

    Girl you mentioned chaka khan

    " I feel for youuuu, I think I love ya"

  • Wayup!

    Codeine/Percocet luv songs... ?

  • Harley

    Thank you! This is a new day and age and they will surely be remembered by future generations

  • Dowoop

    Lol.. Yes

  • brooklyn23

    Thats the one with the short curl hair right amd a big mouth like j hudson right. Im not googling anything so imma guess my memory serves me right

  • Wayup!

    She was a sex symbol... Believe it or not.. look her up on YouTube.. Her type was in... Think Diana Ross...

  • Malai

    I don’t even understand how so many people be on Dj Khali’s jock...like frfr

  • NeverSurprised

    I thought she sounded terrible tonight doing the Jeffersons'"Movin' On Up" theme song. She sounded out of breath and just kind of strange, as if she had little control of her voice.

  • NeverSurprised

    I've always said you can walk into any black church and find PHENOMENAL singers, but in this day and age image takes precedence over talent ( sadly)..

  • Wayup!

    Never been but have watched all her concerts and....YES.. It's true... And apparently has sold the same album twice...?

  • YouWontSayItButIWill

    Being "remembered"...and being an "icon"..............is two totally different things.

  • YouWontSayItButIWill

    And Rodney King...

  • Wayup!

    Coachella was only excellent because of the bands... It was all revamped songs...
    Her singing was great because of this... Her dancing was fire because of the band...

  • joel adams

    No doubt. Yea. You good

  • SemajBeyPhilly

    Mariah doesn’t even sound like Mariah. Whitney damn sure ain’t sound like Whitney when she passed. Y’all so funny lol.

  • SemajBeyPhilly

    And what exactly makes her a legend?

  • SemajBeyPhilly

    I’m just saying
    ?????

  • Faithz

    Exactly.

  • Faithz

    So True. But I say leave Beyonce along , and let her be the best she can be for her Fans who think shes the air they breath.

  • Faithz

    LMFAO.....

  • Mr.LeBrickJames

    She'll never be on the level of Aretha or Whitney, but I think one can make the argument that Beyonce's the greatest female pop/R&B singer of her generation. That's still quite an accomplishment.

  • Faithz

    LOL And Auntee has kept it well documented for those of us who know the truth as you have spoken. You And Auntee are right.

  • Khaliah

    No, she got demoted from the lounge. She's now lounge ladies room singer. Don't forget parking lot singer, sewer worker singer, Public Storage "bin" singer. Hey, Auntee started it!!!

  • MNjumpoffacliff

    Well she's not lying we had some heavyweights in my youth, they might even be unsung because it's a popularity contest but they can sang.

  • Bree

    Beyonce's greatest hits are on a Destiny's Child album.

  • Bree

    Lol @ Keke touched tho! She really is!

  • Bree

    She ain't it by whose standards. All those things you mentioned about her, are what makes her legendary.Dionne said there's no one on that level. The world has no say in the Promise that God has over her life.

  • Cie Be

    I detect no lies^^^above!!!

  • Bree

    Yes, honey. One of the most legendary performances ever happened when she honored the gorgeous Miss Patti singing Lady Marmalade. I was with my ex boyfriend at the time watching UNCF, we both died and came back to life. Turned the darn TV off and went to sleep!

  • EyeEmJai

    That's it and that's all lol. I've always said she had gone backwards, musically, when she removed her father from her career.

  • EyeEmJai

    You read my mind. I thought Jennifer would be this generation's definition of iconic BUT she has fell off. Her voice isn't that great anymore. I heard her sing one of her songs with a contestant recently and the contestant sounded much better than Jennifer smh lol. Actually, Jennifer messed up on her own song smh.

  • dru and neil

    They airbrushed/photoshopped her nostrils down. Made em’ smaller.

  • Vonda K

    Chile, Chile google is your friend. Dionne Warwick is a LEGEND!!!
    Her vocals are untouchable. Even at her age very few any of these young heffas can touch her.
    She is a black woman who has survived in a cut throat business for 6 decades.
    Put some respect on her name.

  • SemajBeyPhilly

    Nah I’m ok love. But thanks for the history lesson.

  • Vonda K

    And how sad is that!

  • fRAktal Reality

    Rachelle Ferrell, Regina Bell, Stephanie Mills, Patty Austin, Chaka Khan, Patti Labelle, Gladys Knight, Anita Baker, Ledisi, Kelly Price, Jill Scott, Eryka Badu, Vivian Green, Maysa, Amel Larrieux, RES, N'Dea Davenport, Caron Wheeler...

  • Vonda K

    ? Having grown up in black church (COGIC)
    Every Sunday listening to singers blow the roof off the church. These singers today wouldn’t be lead vocalist in the church choir.
    I mean these men and women could SANG! Runs, riffs and growls then hit 12 octave rang that would shatter the stain glass windows. Whew

  • Vonda K

    Fantastia, Karen Clark Sheard, Lisa Fischer
    Kim Burrell.

  • fRAktal Reality

    Yes!!! Keep'em coming. OMG, Fantasia makes me cry everytime I hear her sing.

  • Vonda K

    Yes indeed. She like Etta James could set the tone.

  • Vonda K

    And fix their teeth like they did Tami Terrell (tears).
    Motown had a charm school for artists.

  • Wayup!

    Absolutely... Love her voice in a trio... But alone I can only stand it when I'm working out... Walking... Or extremely busy... Not sure why that is.. At least she can say her music motivates people... Cause like I said I'm always on the move when I'm listening to her... But when I want to unwind... It's just not HER I listen to..?

  • Vonda K

    Listened to it every day. One the most beautiful love songs ever. Angie Stonediws a great cover.

  • Vonda K

    You had to be able to flat foot sang. No gimmicks, auto tune, half nakedness.

  • Vonda K

    While in grocery store I heard Going Circles by Friends of Destinction. I came so close to singing and twirling in the aisles. Whew those touched your soul.

  • kennedy220

    I totally forgot about RES. To see a black girl making that kind of music during the time she came out was so inspiring because I know it wasn't really any in the mainstream.

  • kennedy220

    I disagree, just depends on the generation that's listening to her music. She has her diehard fans and the little kids from today. If crazy In love is still playing on radio, along with say my name, jumping jumping, love on top are still on the radio here in NYC all the time...she'll be there b/c she is the biggest from her generation..just saying

  • kennedy220

    that's true, but I've seen Tina Turners same routine over and over when I was younger and enjoyed it every time. Not many of these today singers have new and original content in their shows and the new generations don't care lol

  • blkopp

    Maybe the greatest performer/entertainer but “singer” noooooo

  • Bree

    Say what you want. You won't be laughing when God tells timber. Saul was king 40 years, he only reigned for 2

  • the guest

    Nina Simone, Sara Vaughn, Tina Marie.

  • the guest

    Exactly.

  • the guest

    She knows that too.

  • the guest

    Beyonce is not Tina Turner.

  • the guest

    Beyonce is not any of those legends.

  • Zaki Mba

    I'll have you know I still listen to her 16 year old album dangerously in love , and her 13 year old album bday with as much awe as when they were first released, she is an ICON, a voice of our generation, with a solid cross-cut selection of music for any and every occasion.

  • 9Ether

    They're all dead.. IJS

  • 9Ether

    FACTS!

  • Yui

    Dude, her newer music stinks to high hell and those two albums you named are her best works as a solo artist. Unfortunately our generation (and those after) grew up listening to mediocre music, accepted junk food as masterpieces and when presented with quality some of us just don’t get it. Beyoncé’s quality pieces come far and few between.

  • Yup, I said it

    Stephanie Mills and. Shirley Murdock. Tami has a great voice but didn't really put out alot of music.

  • Yup, I said it

    Vanessa Williams will be considered iconic because old white women love her. I used to live in the Mountains and those white men were in love with Whitney Houston and the white women held their Vanessa Williams CD close to their hearts. I never expected any of that.

  • E-VannaRootsAllEvil

    Hmmm

  • http://batman-news.com Roderick2011

    Pat must know every single family secret because no one challenges her publicly.

  • n1kk1a

    I haven’t seen it, but I believe you. I just wanted her to hear me! ? My voice got me a full scholarship at Alabama A&M University. I’m mixed with black and blacker....?

  • what?why

    Semantics

  • Yardgirl

    Word!!

  • CardiB’sAbs

    Any suggestions?

  • CardiB’sAbs

    ?????

  • KcoolMuziq

    U can start with the 1999 album. Buy if U have Spotify just shuffle play Prince and U will be pleasantly surprised.

  • Sha

    Agree 100%

  • Sha

    Yessssssssss, Soul II Soul, Brownstone. Now we talking.

  • fRAktal Reality

    Lala Hathaway, Syleena Johnson, Chrissette Michelle, Keke Wyatt, Goapele...

  • hottlanta

    Phyllis hyman hands down.

  • WutizstillHERE!

    NiNi I have three now. My oldest is 2 a boy, then last december my youngest (20yo) had my grand daughter, now my son just had a girl.

  • fRAktal Reality

    Wasn't Dionne referring to "living" artists?

  • onelove

    While Warwick is a fan of Beyonce's work, she is not convinced that "Single Ladies" hitmaker is at the level of a classic or iconic artist.

    she is telling the truth..

  • onelove

    YESS!!!!!!!!

  • onelove

    NOPE!

  • onelove

    of her generation..when booty shakeing is a thang now! smh

  • onelove

    yeah,singer no

  • hottlanta

    Phyllis voice still lives. It is timeless classic n timeless

  • onelove

    shrugs shoulders...........................

  • onelove

    100

  • onelove

    lol

  • onelove

    j hud is lazy

  • WutizstillHERE!

    Thank you Bree

  • WutizstillHERE!

    Thank you Nik

  • WutizstillHERE!

    Thank you Yanyade

  • WutizstillHERE!

    Thanks sis (Huggs)

  • WutizstillHERE!

    Thank you Smartchick!

  • WutizstillHERE!

    Thank you luv

  • hottlanta

    So a black person isnt iconic until old white women n men love them. Just boggles the mind.

  • hottlanta

    Betta say it.

  • hottlanta

    Oneies and weaves. That is all.

  • Yardgirl

    I agree!! He opened for Janet and I was pleasantly surprised at how good he was. I was not a huge fan, but he blew me away!!

  • Yardgirl

    That is where I saw him perform and he was fabulous!! I had never seen him perform live and I came away a huge fan!!

  • Yardgirl

    Congratulations Gma!!

  • Topic Influencer

    You dead on CORRECT

  • sunni_daze
  • Topic Influencer

    She aint hold a candle to the others. Along the lines of Diana and the rest. She aint wear no makeup. She didnt wear any jewlery. She aint hand clap. She aint sway. She just stood there singing. I saw an old clip as a kid and my mama was like that is yall daddy GIRL. I was like why? https://media3.giphy.com/media/h4Z6RfuQycdiM/giphy.gif

  • Topic Influencer

    Yes. I was at that one too. I saw him there but then I saw him again as a fully grown man during the Confessions era and BAY-BEEEEEEEE. Tidbit: Kanye West opened for HIM during that tour lol.

  • Topic Influencer

    Stevie Nicks << MY GIRLLLLLLLL. SHEW

  • fRAktal Reality

    Oh ok...I like that answer. Phyllis' music is timeless. *thumbs up*

  • Reenaface

    I forgot about that.

  • Reenaface

    lmao... Exactly!

  • Yoni7

    All of these are on my Pandora playlist. LOL

  • The Chosen One

    Exactly. The good music, from back in the day, has gone down south.

  • EasyBreezy

    Yes, Lord. #tragic #IrememberWhereIwasWhenIheard

  • EasyBreezy

    Yes, Lord! #tragic #IrememberWhereIwasWhenIheard

  • Junkanoo

    I have struggled to enjoy Beyonces singing voice its not the kind of voice I can listen to the whole album. Some peoples voices are like instruments it has a life of its own or they lend emotionality to the song few can. Dionne has a point but the issue is the record industry promotes people who look great but aren't the most brilliant singers. The brilliant singers who can sing well are on smaller record labels don't get promoted and some just sing in small local venues.

  • EasyBreezy

    Yes.... Thank you! I would like to add Alice Smith to your awesome list, please.

  • Yup, I said it

    Hahaha, that's what you got of,what I was saying? You needs to find some peace. They point I was making is that some of the black artist that we may not realize are legends because other races and cultures absolutely love them. Like for example Toni Braxton. She is a great artist amongst black America but Latinos love Toni Braxtons love songs and alot of them have been remade in Spanish.

  • bbjuarez

    Time has not been on Beyonce's side. She's looking really old these days and her neck looks thicker than a 100 year old oak tree.

  • Thanos of Titan
  • hottlanta

    Still saying the same thing. We aint legends until other races love our music.

  • ClaireHuxtable

    L0l! I would have been freaked out!

  • Angela Marsh

    Don't forget Fantasia!!! Powerhouse. Just because they aren't on the radio does not mean they aren't platinum! Prince was not in rotation when he left us, but he is forever Timeless....

  • Coy little wink

    She doesn't even perform bootylicious I read it embarrasses her

  • more

    Lmaooooo!

  • Kanyade

    Five Hunnert and Fifty-Five comments and counting....

  • hottlanta

    Frankie beverly n maze aint made an album in 59 years n can still pack a house.

  • ?Patty Kakes?

    She ain't lie. I don't think there's one song in Whitney Houston's or Mariah Carey's catalog that Beyonce could sing and make an impact. there is one other singer that I believe deserve to be in the same category as Whitney Houston Celine Dion and Mariah Carey and that's Deborah Cox. That lady is so underrated.

  • hottlanta

    Keekee wyatt is the business between babies.

  • ?Patty Kakes?

    Yes lawd. Thank you for correcting me. I forget about her, she is definitely a force to be reckoned with

  • Ni Ni

    Sweet!!!

  • sjames

    if ppl can take they beyhive emotions out of it, Dione is speaking facts. it's something about when you hear just the inkling of an old tune that is TIMELESS!!! everyone knows. i blv when artists stopped putting soul into their music, their ability to create timeless classics was lost. not just blacks cus Tina Marie and Lisa Fischer (How Can I Ease the Pain) and George Michaels was DOIN THE DAMN THANG!!! Even Freddie Mercury. they had soul and feeling and passion in their music. That's what we connect to and that's just not there with a lot of artists these days

  • sjames

    i will say that "resentment" by Beyonce will stay in rotation LOL i really love "Halo" and "Hello" (esp Hello) and 1+1 but they don't have that if-i-hear-it-it-will-keep-me-from-committing-murder vibes. when i was younger n would be in a teenage RAGE (lol) i would play "Human Nature" or "He Loves Me in E Flat" and instantly calm down. the melody, the words, the emotion. those types of songs are more than lyrics and memories. they still your entire being

  • sjames

    we have our fav cousin Fanny Mae. We good

  • sjames

    I JUST SPIT MY COFFEE OUT LMFAO

  • Floriduhh Evans

    Me too, I prefer oldies myself

  • sjames

    your comment reminds me of bhoemian Rhapsody where Queen was offended when the tv program wanted them to lip sync over a track and not actually play their instruments and sing LOL and the interview where they talked about how out of all the Live Aid performances, Queen was the only band that rehearsed and put on a show as if it were their concert. The production crew said the look on every other performers' faces were dumbfounded as they knew that it was a Queen/Freddie Mercury show bc they DID THAT! all that to say that these new artists, although good, don't embody the work ethic, soul, and experience to truly connect with their own music enough to have their music connect with us

  • sjames

    like i said up top somewhere, the artists of yesterday connected with their songs and believed in what they were singing. it didn't matter if the song became a hit bc they put their soul into it. we as listeners FELT that. when MJ hits his note in "Human Nature" so beautifully it was more than just a pretty note. there was longing in that simple riff

  • Crazy tee

    I agree...moving on.

  • indano

    Lol. Her The Sweetest Days album was really good.

  • indano

    Yes! You get it.

  • fRAktal Reality

    Yes, Alice Smith has wonderful vocals.

  • hottlanta

    Phil collins against all odds does it for me everytime. Ump ump ump.

  • SunRiseBlossom

    Me Either!!!!!

  • hottlanta

    Yall didnt tell me Jennifer hudson was sanging on the live jefferson show last night. Just saw it n l said dayum she is bad .

  • ClaireHuxtable

    She really did the doggone thang!

  • Merkaba morris

    Finally somebody who is not afraid to speak the truth ...Dionne I jus gained a new respect for u ...Its the Truth and the truth shall set u free ...Love and Light

  • http://bitchbecomesher.com Tasha Nicole

    Old people say this every generation....

    I'm sure all the old people on this site agree with her lol

  • hottlanta

    Marla gibbs as florence l thought jamie was gonna cry or faint. Pure classic.

  • Evillene

    OMG, yes! Alice is in her own category!

  • Trace da Ace

    ummm.....she told NO LIES.....love you D!!

  • ClaireHuxtable

    U R probably too young to remember that song 1st hand so tell your mom she did a good job at raising you.

  • disqus_FW7pCIigCY

    she's entitled to her own opinion...BUT let's not get it twisted Dionne voice was Mediocre at best..she sings and talks like a Brick is holding her Tongue down...it's annoying when people who can't sing either try's to tell us who's the greatest...

  • kennedy220

    I never said that. But your point about the same routine still applies. Tina and Beyonce have plenty of fans that will never get tired of the same routine and that’s just the truth. And eve with those same routines they still gained new fans. Fans that will see it once or multiple times.

  • ZRoJoTheLezBeyond
  • ClaireHuxtable

    Minnie Ripperton, Karyn White, Nancy Wilson, Mary J Blige, Deniece Williams, Angela Wimbush

  • http://sandrarose.com SandraRose

    Ms. Dionne is referring to today's artists.

  • ZRoJoTheLezBeyond
  • NewNew

    Wow, how people evolve! Although I think both Kanye and Usher are on the decline (Kanye moreso than Usher). Heard 'Let it Burn' the other day and just couldn't listen without thinking about what else might be burning. Lord, I'm a mess.? Usher sure was something during his heyday though.

  • NewNew

    Me too! That was when My Way was the jam. He did a great job.

    I have been put on to a few artists via other people's concerts. Saw Lauryn Hill when she was on the miseducation tour. Outkast opened for her. Andre 3000 was wearing a Hawaiian style grass skirt (but they were pants). Their performance was so good that I went out and bought all of their albums the very next day. I'm still bumping those hits to this day.

  • ClaireHuxtable

    It was WONDERFUL seeing her.

  • Let them eat cake

    I love love love Vanessa Williams. To me, she's also iconic because she is true to herself and is highly educated and runs circles around, I hate to say it but white folks. She knows who she is and is multi talented. While I'll always respect beyonce for being a successful black woman, i feel that she's too contrived and manufactured to be iconic. i always get bored with bey...to this day after all her success i still feel like she isn't truly herself but what she's told to be. thats why i like rihanna more.

  • Sweetness

    And what do you consider old?

  • Let them eat cake

    lmbo!

  • Vonda K

    Thank you. I was of age when Gap Band did their cover of song though.

    How did we go from ballads such this to the crap that’s going it now?

  • Myopinion

    So why doesn't she think Beyoncé is icon status? Is it because she haven't heard any ramblings of her being a junky or base head? SMH...Beyoncé is an icon based on todays standards not 50-60 years ago standards. All those considered icons back in the day such as, Whitney, Chaka Khan, Natalie Cole etc. were either junkies and base heads, alcoholics, s*x addicts, or gluttonous. https://media0.giphy.com/media/60rUZAj7OHOiCsbPJY/giphy.gif

  • ?Patty Kakes?

    I like her a lot but she's more of a Jennifer Holliday kind of diva. Mariah Celine and Whitney are more of a soft r&b pop singers if that makes any sense. Jennifer gives me more hardcore r&b

  • fRAktal Reality

    Yes, yes, yes!!!

  • ClaireHuxtable

    Why R U in here pickin on me? U know perfectly well that I was throwing in additional names of classic artists. I don't C U in here messing with other contributors. Did I steal your doll in a past life?
    Then HERE...here's your Barbie back! Satisfied? https://media1.giphy.com/media/pSw6gndy7TFSg/giphy.gif

  • Raquel

    THANK YOU DIONNE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    I don't see what she said WRONG. She isn't of this "hater" era where if you don't like something you're automatically labeled this because you don't like what everyone else is on. She comes from the old school of REALLY keeping it real. Today's folks are concerned more about likes and riding the "what's in" wave. Thank GOD for some truth.

  • Tiffany Miller

    As much as it may hurt the hive, she is right. Beyonce makes songs that are catchy and relevant to the time. Her work before WADDAMELON was a song worthy catalog but she needs to get back to that.

  • Yup, I said it

    In the age it technology free thought is attacked more now than ever. Cyberbullying is real. The bee hive and all these super fans wouldnt even exist without social media. Its overboard.

  • ClaireHuxtable

    As the quality of characters fizzles, so do the songs. Nobody loves each other anymore. They just want "love'em & leave'em" s3x...no apologies.

  • Raquel

    LMAO!!!!! That about it!

  • Vonda K

    Sigh so true.
    I’m currently listening to The Isley Brothers, Here We Go Again’
    And Timmy Thomas, Why Can’t We live Together. I’m old school all the way.

  • Hunni24

    I'll never love this way again is one of my favs

  • Notatall

    I love Vanessa also

  • Hunni24

    Oh I forgot Heartbreaker! I would go around the house singing that while doing my chores as a kid.

  • Applebootay

    But that iconic status, it's a long road [ahead]," Warwick said.

    Where's the harm? She's 78 and when Bey is 78 she'll be saying the same thing. I don't understand why there are 608 comments about this post. ?

  • LoneWolf1986

    She tells no lies. Beyonce is more of a performer (like Janet Jackson) than she is a singer. I think Beyonce is a beautiful woman, but her voice is unremarkable by itself.

  • MsPam

    Look at her mother, it’s not going to end up well.

  • MsPam

    Don’t forget ape sh?t.

  • LoneWolf1986

    Of her generation... but who else is she up against in her generation? It's kinda thin...

  • Nicolep

    Beyonce is more of an icon then she is.. Beyonce has reached a level of fame and accomplishments that very few black women have achieved.. Although I appreciate Warwick's contribution she is no Aretha, Diana, or Patti when it comes to being an cultural icon.. Beyonce is a bonafide ICON.. And I aint even that much of a fan but I recognize an iconic career when I see one.

  • Nicolep

    Janet Jackson or Madonna are not great singers but they are both icons..

  • LoneWolf1986

    The word you're looking for is cross-over artist.

  • LoneWolf1986

    They're both better performers than they are singers.

  • LoneWolf1986

    Dionne is of the same generation as Aretha, Diana R., Tina T., Patti and Gladys K. They all have been, or were in the game, for over 50 years. Their songs are part of the American songbook. Beyonce is a great performer, but vocally she's more in the category just a step about Janet J. or Madonna.

  • Mr.LeBrickJames

    I agree. And Beyonce gets her paper too. She's worth over $350 million, according to Forbes magazine. I gotta respect any artist who can rise to that financial level. That takes not just talent, but also hard work and hustle.

  • Gamer?? Chick

    She probably thinks 30 is old.

  • TheOwley

    There are Ms. Warwick but they are in Pandora radio never to see fame and fortune because they didn't sell out their souls for it.

  • Capricornlady

    Sheeeeeit! lol ??????????

  • Tell the truth

    I agree with Ms. Warwick the ladies back then actually earned their way and it was just given to them or they didn’t steal to get it .

  • Tell the truth

    You would get that much also if you stole from everyone and had to sell your soul . Tell the truth !

  • YellowSauce

    I hate when ole biddies speak on younger women
    It ALWAYS sounds like hate whether they intend to or not

    Beyonce IS an icon for her generation and has earned it ....

    Besides this generation can't name not nare one of warlock's songs and yes I said warlock .........................
    furthermore for the journalist to ask this was messy
    I understand why Bey doesn't give too many interviews ....

  • http://www.NeCola.Mayvenn.com Chile_Pleeze

    so says the beehive.... .............truth be told.. nope.. Beyonce is not iconic its ok... its ok little bee..

  • YellowSauce

    Beyonce actually has a very skilled voice and is very underestimated
    You have your opinion but I have seen/heard her vocal range

    also not everyone can sing AND perform ..... most of those so called "vocal" experts you speak of can't sing and pop LIVE AND in heels and the ones that can dance are studio singers ......
    Yes VERY underestimated

  • YellowSauce

    Not a Beehive person ...and am grown ...not sure of this little anything mess you speak of ........... but you have your opinion and I have mine ...Bye Now :)

  • Yardgirl

    Me too girl!! That was back when concerts made sense and you got your money’s worth and some. Now you pay through the roof for some mumble rap crap!! I am still an OutKast fan to this day and wish they would get back together!!

  • Parent

    No disrespect Ms. Dionne Warwick but Beyonce will get icon status. I agree that music is not what it once was especially rap and r&b but give that woman her props.

  • LoneWolf1986

    Agee to disagree. Even on her slow songs, she's barely listenable. She's overrated as a singer, in my opinion. There are plenty of other singers, rnb, that can sing rings around her, heels or no heels.

  • Junkanoo

    The same applies to acting I don't think people act as well as they use to back in the day when many actors started acting on stage before getting film and TV roles. There a lot of OK to average actors but few give outstanding performances.

  • T Willis

    Lmao @ big ego ?

  • Let them eat cake

    I appreciate Beyonce's work ethic and support her as a successful black woman BUT she is very manufactured to me. After all these years she doesn't seem like she's being herself. I just can't be drawn to her music nor her performances I always get bored. She's always too worried about her image to fully be herself imo. This takes away from her icon status.

  • 11pink123

    Agreed!

  • Sweetness

    I truly wanted to know girl. No offense to her.

  • T Willis

    Man!!! I told my mom the same thing ? like wtf is his purpose?!? My mom tried to bring up Diddy “take that, take that” lol

  • YellowSauce

    Yup but guess what? ........ they all want to be beyonce LOL

    Tamar can sing better than beyonce and so can toni but they wish they had her sales, fans and revenue
    I actually think this is what all this is about

    Janet's Jackson's voice is mediocre didn't stop her

    and as long as mary j blige is a singer nobody should anything to say to beyonce lolol EVER ....

    I could keep going but i'm good

  • T Willis

    ??????

  • T Willis

    I think she’s the ex wife of Jimmy Jam or Terry Lewis (Janet Js producers) and there were rumors that he had her blacklisted ... I loved her too

  • T Willis

    Lol there’s a certain etiquette for black artists in Hollywood, and Beyonce has no respect for it. And to top it off lol she makes crappy music lol... but y’all have the audacity to say she’s an icon? Lol with horrible, forgettable, music along with sheisty business practices? Naw. That won’t be happening lol.

  • Mo Laughz

    Correct! When Whitney performed all she needed was a mic, a stool, a bottle of water, and a white rag!

  • Lucky8

    Y'all didnt need Dionne to tell you the obvious.

  • T Willis

    ???

  • Mo Laughz

    "I knooo I'll neeeva, love this way againnnnn!!!!" That's all I got *shrug

  • YellowSauce

    hA! impressive lolololol

  • Yardgirl

    I wish I had his gig because he is living off the back of all dem people and they are co-signing it!!

  • LoneWolf1986

    You can walk into any Baptist Church in America on Sunday and pull out two or three singers better than Beyonce. They may not look like her, but they could sing rings around Beyonce. Yes she's successful, but so was Milli Vanilli (not to say that B can't sing, it's just not her strong suit).

  • Wayup!

    Real funny... Heard that too shudda thought of that but.... she WAS 25 when she recorded it.... According to Sandra she was a whole adult during that time..?

  • Robert lee Bennett OG

    And I notice black men are quicker to beat a dark skin woman down to the ground for her mouth than a lighter one

  • Miss Thang

    I agree.

  • Bree

    When her music comes on Pandora, I have to move on to the next. Sad thing is that I listen to the Destiny's Child station.

  • Bree

    So true.

  • Bree

    Same here.

  • Bree

    Exactly. Matthew may have not been the best person in the world, he did however have her best interest at heart.

  • Overpower Radio

    She had some good songs in the 80s too, for sure.

  • rockstar2142

    I could never get into Beyonce. Her singing & dancing are average at best to me.

  • rockstar2142

    Dionne ain’t speaking nothing but the truth. I never understood why bey gets all this praise. She is just average to me.

  • Alextra Ballard

    Whitney usta sweat profusely

  • rockstar2142

    But that voice was always on point!

  • rockstar2142

    I disagree I don’t think she’s much of a performer. She does them same tired routines. Janet & Ciara can actually dance even Britney in her prime was a way better performer.

  • rockstar2142

    Shoot I’m 29 & I agree with Dionne.

  • rockstar2142

    Preach!!! I hate Lisa never gets her due. When we talk about the best singing voice she needs to be mentioned.

  • rockstar2142

    Cause they can dance & put on an amazing show. Beyonce can not.

  • rockstar2142

    Lmao.. right!!

  • rockstar2142

    I wouldn’t even give her greatest performer/entertainer.

  • ALLMINE?

    She's an icon bro. I understand your opinion but she is.

  • rockstar2142

    Me neither

  • Satin Panther

    Wait hol up now, we still got Chaka Khan, Anita Baker, Patti Labelle. Chaka was a sexy lil thang back in the day with her long hair and belly shirt looking snackalicious!

  • Kylla Williams

    he's the dj he produces beats for artist he wants to create around it. not the first to do it.

  • Lorenzo Chaps

    I'm thinking she's referring to the current roster.

  • Lorenzo Chaps

    I'm thinking she's referring to the current roster.

  • Lorenzo Chaps

    Beyonce's not a legend or iconic. Bey faltered when she began making cliche or microwave music. She got away from lyrics and songs that told a story, a las beginning, middle, end.

    Dionne's right in saying what she said. In 10 years, no one will be mouthing none of this stuff out right now.

  • Lorenzo Chaps

    Beyonce's not a legend or iconic. Bey faltered when she began making cliche or microwave music. She got away from lyrics and songs that told a story, a las beginning, middle, end.

    Dionne's right in saying what she said. In 10 years, no one will be mouthing none of this stuff out right now.

  • J2PC

    Eh. A number of younger people fed up with the crap called music today continue to say the same thing. That is why many resort to Pandora for Jazz, 80s hits, alternative music from talented underground artists & such.

  • J2PC

    They are looking for those willing to help them push their agenda & politically correct nonsense gear towards manipulating young minds to behave and think dysfunctionally in self-destructive ways.

    Then, it's onto marketing & promoting those heavily as if they are some real icon with real talent. Real talent with classier gigs and behaviors are ignored.

  • Satin Panther

    Oh ok...bcuz the article said "no more left" but in that case Ohhh yess she's definitely right on that one!

  • ?Patty Kakes?

    Exactly

  • ?Patty Kakes?

    But look at the years they put into it

  • Mirella

    25 was the Deja Vu period. Bootylicious was at least five years before.

  • YouWontSayItButIWill

    That part.

  • YouWontSayItButIWill

    Hmmm......is that right? Unfortunately...................you're just one person listening though.

  • PynkCloudz

    Say it louder!!!!!??????

  • YouWontSayItButIWill

    I get where you are coming from but here is where I beg to differ. When you are an Icon and a legend, it dosent matter what generation listens to you music......you capture ALL generations. MJ,.Al.Green, Diana Ross, Tina Turner etc....have been around before generations were born...BUT there music is known to all ages.....and loved. It's lyrical....their music moves you. That's why their music is featured is movies, commercials, weddings etc.and has been for thirty years and better. Beyonce''s music can't top that and won't top that. Her songs come out and then they gradually play out. She just can't blow like the vets back in the day. Bey ain't talking about nothing in her songs. I mean ape shit? She grown azz hell trying to sound like the damn migos.

    They play her shyt in NY....cause in Atlanta.....we are not listenin to no jumping jumping and say my name in 2019. You play that down here...people are going to be confused and not understanding whats going on.

  • what?why

    Semantics - it depends on one's definition of a legend.

  • kennedy220

    I get that. Those people are older but whose to say she won’t get there? And they play the songs in more than NYC. I work in radio, i just used NYC because I’m here. I understand she’s trying to sound like whoever is now because especially as a female in music you have to stay relevant and current. Females when it comes to radio after a certain age die off a lot faster than their male counterparts in the radio world. It’s not because their music sucks but just old fashion agism and the higher ups just don’t see older females relevant in radio in certain genres. You might not here the song apeshit on your radio station you listen when you’re listening to it but it’s not out of rotation. Beyonce hast cared about radio singles since love on top. Her songs and destiny child songs still speak to a lot of listeners.. , independent women, survivor,single ladies, me myself and I still get request even though we don’t real operate radio like that anymore. It’s not that she can’t blow like the vets it’s a changing industry. Does she have songs that go out of rotation of course , they all do, even the veterans but they all have their songs with staying power and d.c and Beyonce have that under their belts in syndicated shows in radio, pop and RnB stations Atlanta included.

  • kennedy220

    Because the market only allows so many black girls in. Also the fans aren’t and weren’t buying the other girls music and supporting other artist

  • ClaireHuxtable

    Remember "Where do we go from here?" by Johnny Gill & Stacy Lattisaw?!

  • ClaireHuxtable

    Her OWN song?
    L0l...I saw Anita Baker forget the words to her song, but since the entire audience was already singing, she just laughed.

  • YellowSauce

    Honestly the worlds most talented people STAY AWAY from the music industry ...because their souls don't resonate with "The Business" ............... Stil doesn't make her any less of an Icon .... like i sad janet is an Icon and SHE also doesn't have that vocal range you speak of LOL ............

  • Vonda K

    Oooh Chile. These two don’t get enough credit.
    They were young sounding like old mature folks. Got to down load this song now.

  • ClaireHuxtable

    Don't forget you're at work and start singing along!
    "Should we just walk away...?"

  • Harley

    Well any artist with longevity is going to perform their catalogue! That’s why you see people in concert. Rolling Stones is going to play their catalogue when you see them. Same for Beyoncé.

    And regardless why you think Coachella was excellent my point remains that it was not the same show she has ever put on in the past. As the previous poster tried to say all her shows are the same when clearly they are not.

  • Harley

    And Beyoncé will be more than “remembered” .....

    Dionne had a great career standing on stage singing her limited catalogue and she herself may or may not be “remembered”

    And Beyoncé’s talent that ranges from dancing to singing to movies to philanthropy will also be remembered and make her an icon as well

  • Wayup!

    Regardless my a$$... You don't get to discount my opinion.. now irregardless your punk ass out my face..??

  • htxfla

    no mariah tho?

  • Yasmine K.

    Ces vrais

  • Harley

    Your too immature to have a decent conversation on a public forum. Your juvenile font just shows that your opinion is assanine either way

  • Karen Brady

    I admit I don't know half (if not more) of her music but how much of it did have beginnings, middle and end? Beyhive don't get @ me.

  • Karen Brady

    Yeah but there are the ones that will always believe that "to the left, to the left" and "...he woulda put a ring on it" are the holy grail. No pun intended.

  • Karen Brady

    And a little white powder?

  • YouWontSayItButIWill

    I think Beyonce can sing....but not like the vets. I definitely respect your opinion..but I just don't think that she makes the type of music in order to qualify for.being a legend. She makes songs for the "moment"...and the lyrics are simple. I get where you are coming from though.

  • YouWontSayItButIWill

    Beyonce can't act...and the movies that she were in....eeeehhhhhhh....uuhhhhh okay. Beyonce can dance...but I have seen dancers on YouTube that will kill her....especially in those cypher ones However, I think that she is great. She as certainly achieved a lot...and accomplished incredible things as a black woman. However, I got to agree with Dionne. She is just not legend material in my eyes.

  • kennedy220

    Well remember the moments and definitions are changing too. When you can have people like Marilyn Monroe and Elvis ( i don’t think i know one song of his but i know who he was). And Madonna is considered iconic and probably has the most simple lyrics I’ve heard but that’s pop music. It doesn’t always have meaningful lyrics. Hers and DC anthem songs will stick around. A lot of that stuff has picked up on the new classic radio as weird as it sounds lol because i don’t think we are far away from when those songs came out. I understand where you’re coming from when you say in the moment but i still feel like she will be considered an icon years from now because her competition in the mainstream isn’t high vocally, she’s still gaining fans because her original fan base have kids listening, and she’s one of those names you can say around the world like Mj,Madonna,prince, Elvis, Marilyn and many will know who youre talking about. If i ask my mom about Janelle Monae, Lana del Rey, even Ledisi, and rachelle Ferrell she won’t know them because being iconic now is having followers, likes, a show, video type etc...

  • Harley

    That’s cool in your eyes just like Dione isn’t a legend is some folks eyes.

    Beyoncé is not an actor but has the opportunities to dip into acting and yes people can dance. But they can’t dance AND carry a tube for 3 hours on stage. Her work ethic is unmatched in the industry right now

  • JustMyPOV

    Nothing but #facts with that sentence, my friend.

  • JustMyPOV

    Lawd, there YOU go....but, again: #facts.

  • JustMyPOV

    Hit the nail on the head....

  • JustMyPOV

    Ummm, that's the point: icons and their careers spread over multiple generations. I think Ms. Warick is saying B gotta be in the game for a few more decades before she can be in the same group as Mariah, Chaka, Aretha, Diana, Whitney, etc. An even better example is Barbra Streisand.

  • YellowSauce

    You're fans make you an Icon ...... THAT is number 1

    Number 2 is .... Barbara Streisand and Beyonce have the same net worth .... Beyonce doesn't have any crack den's as album covers and also has 23 grammys Whitney has 6 and Mariah can't hold a note anymore ......... i also want to add that none of them are not shaking anything on stage is because they CAN'T ....... Couldn't 2 step if you paid them ... they DO hire dancres though lol .... Seems to me Bey IS on icon status and you won't ADMIT IT .....Bye Now