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A routine shoplifting trip to a Family Dollar store went horribly wrong for one Phoenix family when police pulled them over and pointed guns in their faces.

The incident happened on May 27, when Dravon Ames, 22, and Iesha Harper took their two daughters with them to the Family Dollar store.

After the family left the store, the workers called the cops, saying they believed the family stole items from the store.

Cell phone video shows the cops pointing guns at the family and ordering them out of their car. The video went viral, and social media activists went nuts.

On Tuesday, the Phoenix Police Department released surveillance video footage that shows the family shoplifting a variety of items from the Family Dollar store prior to their confrontation with officers.

Surveillance footage shows their four-year-old daughter with a doll in her hands. The couple said they had no knowledge of the stolen doll. But the footage shows the little girl showing the doll to a woman who was with her. The video is very grainy, but you can't miss the doll - it is in a big package in the little girl's hands.

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After the woman walked out, the girl is seen waiting for her parents before she walks out of the store with doll in hand. Apparently, neither adult asked the other if the doll was paid for.

It probably didn't matter either way. Another video clip shows the girl's father, identified as Ames, stealing a package of underwear from the store. Ames steals the package and appears to open it to check the contents while squatting down in an aisle.

The workers waited until the family exited the store to call the cops.

Police followed the family to their apartment complex and drew down on them, thinking they were armed.

Harrowing cell phone video shows Phoenix cops barking orders at the family to get out of their car. When the family didn't move quickly enough, one cop threatened to shoot.

The optics were terrible: white cops threatening to shoot a pregnant Black woman holding a baby didn't go over well on Black Twitter.

The excuses from Black Twitter began even before the video footage was released. Even when they learned the family had shoplifted items from the store.

"The doll was only $1."

"I don't care if the doll was $5,000."

"The cops pointed a gun at a pregnant woman."

As far as Twitter activists are concerned, any act of aggression by white officers towards Black people for any reason isn't justified.

Ames and Harper, who is six months pregnant, were not arrested or charged with shoplifting.

The 16-page police report accuses Harper of stealing the underwear, and another woman who was with them of stealing items from the Dollar store.

The story made international headlines after rap mogul Jay-Z offered to pay the legal fees for the young couple.

On Monday, Ames and Harper spoke with the media. Ames choked back tears as he argued with reporters who asked if he had stolen the underwear.

"They put a gun in my daughter's face, and you're asking me about drawers?" he said.

He couldn't believe the reporters had the audacity to question his alleged criminal intent.

"My family has been through enough. You see in the video the fear. The sounds of my daughters crying, and you're asking me about some drawers? That's insensitive, that's insulting," he said.

He rejected an apology from Police Chief Jeri Williams, who is Black.

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"It feels like a half apology. The officers are still working. It's a slap in the face. It's like putting lemon juice on an open wound," he said. "Everyone knows they are not fit to be policing."

Harper told reporters she thought the cops would shoot her in the face in front of her minor children.

Their lawyers hesitated when asked if the couple had shoplifted. They said even if the couple were petty criminals, that doesn't justify the acts of aggression demonstrated by the white cops.

After all, thefts of merchandise worth less than $600 isn't even prosecuted one state over in Texas.

The Rev. Jarrett Maupin said nothing justifies the police action seen in the video.

"Even if they stole every damn roll of tin foil, even if they stole 10 packs of underwear and a partridge and a pear tree, it does not justify what we saw on that tape."

"These are unarmed individuals. It's wrong to do this to anybody and that is the point," one of the family's representatives added.

Harper said her four-year-old is now afraid of all cops. "It was terrifying for me and my children. They've never been through anything like that."

The officers have been placed on desk duty while an internal investigation into the incident continues.
 

  • Being bad is way more fun

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  • KLove

    Im just here for the apologists and excuses LOL...but seriously though, this may have been a bit heavy handed of the cops about some damn drawls

  • speakinmymind

    I love Black people but I hate niggas.??

  • Phillybruh

    But the way the police responded you would have thought they robbed the place killed all the employees. It was family dollar it was 6 dollars worth of crap, that family dollar declined to prosecute, now lets hear how this was called in.

  • tia

    As usual, the officers are aggressive and out of order.. When it comes to "US", everyone knows how these cops get down and they will kill or use excessive force on us in a heartbeat. But on another note, I'm not going out and protesting for you when you're doing dumb shit either. Sometimes we bring stuff on ourselves. Now you want a payout.

  • Yardgirl

    I am not watching the video so thanks for the commentary! What I did see of the police encounter video scared the shit outta me. When it is a Black family the police act like they can do whatever they want. All this over a doll?? Kids were there and the police did not care. Now here comes the "evidence" that these people are criminals. SMH. I am out!!------>>>>

  • Phillybruh

    I hate them too, but I'm not sure who the nigga was in this situation, I'm leaning toward the cops for how they reacted to this, folks steal out of family dollar all day, they budget for it.

  • Phillybruh

    They going get a payout though, the cops were dead ass wrong.

  • speakinmymind

    Ditto! The cops were dead ass wrong but I dont support the family's actions either.

  • speakinmymind

    Soooo because they budget for it, that makes it okay? Nobody's right in this situation, but I damn sure am not risking my life at the hands of an overly aggressive cop for some damn drawers and a doll..

  • Phillybruh

    No I didn't say it made it right, I said the store budgets for it. However, dollar store theft should never warrant this reaction from police, no not EVER!

  • sunni_daze

    It doesn't matter the petty theft did not warrant those words nor actions from that pig in a uniform. That little girl will be traumatized for a long time if not forever.

  • Sid

    Can we get a post on The CEO Chi Chi Eburu of Juvias Place serving lawsuits to Jackie Aina and Alissa Ashley?

  • candy

    The video is irrelevant to the treatment that was demonstrated on this family.

  • Phillybruh

    The sad part is, up until they released the video, the police dept was handling this ok, but they had to attempt to justify it.

  • tia

    They probably will get a pay out and the cops were wrong. I'm just saying, we or people period can avoid BS like this.

  • Karen Brady

    A pair of generic Hanes and an off-brand Barbie.

  • Phillybruh

    It was 6 dollars at most from the dollar store, If he stole a pack of underwear. They were treated like they just stuck up the place.

  • Navybeans95

    Is stealing wrong? Yes. Is excessive force necessary? No. Just too extra for nonviolent shoplifting...

  • Brooklyn23

    Ok whether the family was red,yellow, black , or white they didnt rob a bank or some big heist where the cops would feel its a possibility they might have had weapons. Cops are dicks and at the end of the day dont know hpw to act.
    Back in the days my daugter's aunt and me got into a confrontation in the street and cops out of nowhere (70th precint same precint that stuck a plunger in the haitian dude's ass) and tossed my daughter (4 at the time) to the ground. I hate cops but I know all of them aren't bad. But I feel bad they are excessive with the wrong people. Where and when its needed they dont do it, when they dont need to be so damn agressive thats when they choose to do it. Yingyang in life! They are like pitbulls

  • C Mack

    Exactly why I tell ppl you can choose your actions but not the consequences.

    Cops did way too much here. Killers (a lot of white ones) have been treated better.

  • tia

    Under no circumstance am I disputing their treatment. They were treated like shit. Six dollars, sixty dollars, six hundred dollars.. don't still PERIOD. That's not up for argument or debate. You don't take what's not yours. Done with that--

  • Phillybruh

    Oh no I agree, no stealing. But the police all over the country need new training, they can't keep doing this or maybe they can.

  • tia

    I know and I'm exhausted watching over and over. They can do us any kind of way and get away unblemished. It's the same 'ole song every time. Idk?? It's depressing tho.

  • Brooklyn23

    you can choose your actions but not the consequences.

    That's a fact

  • KcoolMuziq

    Lesson learned. Blacks don't ever shoplift.

  • The Art

    The aggression is probably frustration from "US" always being involved in stupid senseless crimes. I can only imagine the crap that law enforcement and business owners have to put up with on a daily basis from hood boogers like them. These people were basically teaching their child how to shoplift, rearing them towards a life of crime. I'm not protesting or getting enraged either because there's no sense of accountability.

  • Coy little wink

    A routine shoplifting trip...ill just stop right here

    Sandra I'm on my new job I can't be messing around with yo shade in first sentence no less...

    Bbl

  • wigmon68

    I think that lesson should apply to any race.

  • Nina Ross

    Nobody should die in over a misdemeanor... I hope they get the $10 million they’re suing for

  • Topic Influencer

    IDGAF. It doesnt warrant guns pulled. Not anything out of FAMILY DOLLAR warrants guns being pulled. Stealing is wrong anyway you cut it. But draws and a doll from Family Dollar? Man listen

  • Brooklyn23

    I never get how people boost and there's camera's everywhere. This couple had boost from the dollar tree and made it without getting caught, and that wasnt their 1st time. They were a crackhead couple. Life is life tho. Sometimes it is understandable, if someone lost their job or is poor and needs toilet paper, food and some stuff, whatever it is Id rather you do what you have to do from a business thats making money and could afford the little loss as opposed to robbing someone. You never know what cards you are gonna get dealt with in life that's why Im not gonna judge. Shit I was homeless for 2 weeks and fortunately I didnt have to steal becuase I had people looking out for me buying me food and as far as when it came to using bathrooms and giving myself a birdbath,I had my spot I went to. Oh ye I did steal the toilet paper in there

  • Renee26

    Police followed the family to their apartment complex and drew down on them, thinking they were armed.

    ???? Ummmm WHY??? This was petty theft not armed robbery

  • wigmon68

    good article. Now that the facts are clear, the couples lawsuit should be thrown out in short order. Of course the city will end up settling for 6 figures.

  • Topic Influencer

    PERIODT

  • Renee26

    Congrats!!

  • Topic Influencer

    This was petty theft not armed robbery
    This was petty theft not armed robbery
    This was petty theft not armed robbery

    For the idiots in the back

  • Phillybruh

    Stop right where you are! Blacks are not the only ones who shoplift, according to my aunt who manages a store they aren't even the group that does it the most. But because they like to put a face everything blacks get the blame.

  • http://batman-news.com Roderick2011

    Ex-phucking zactly.
    Just like the black autistic non-verbal boy who passed out fake money and the school called the police and allowed the police to interview him without his mother present.
    They knew the money was fake because it had Chinese characters.
    If it had been a white kid it would have ended there or the principle would have called the parent, but would have never called the authorities to terrorize a white child who was on the spectrum.

  • Janice Collins

    So we mad because they were arrested for stealing or how they were arrested? I say don’t show up to practice if you don’t won’t to win the game. The story is already change from yesterday, i guess he didn’t know the 4 year old was busy stealing because he was stealing. It don’t matter what color you are.

  • Brooklyn23

    Stealing is wrong anyway you cut it.

    But at times its understandable even justified depending on the situation.

    Im sure we all have stoled something. You ever went to the grocery store and took an u paid for grape and helped yourself to it? This is why people (tho we still do, because it's human nature to see what other people do that we do ourselves) shouldn't judge

  • Topic Influencer

    I can only imagine the crap that law enforcement and business owners have to put up with on a daily basis from hood boogers like them.
    ^^^^^^
    Well not in Phoenix. Its only 6.5 black since that is what you are implying. SEVEN PERCENT of the population.

  • http://batman-news.com Roderick2011

    The cops went way over the top for some sh!t stolen from a dollar store.
    And they followed them home instead of arresting them asap?
    The cops blew up the entire situation and tried to justify it by saying they thought they had guns--and why is that--because they are poor blacks?
    Let's dig this hole a little deeper.

  • Renee26

    Criminals that they didn't even charge with anything SMDH damn pigs

  • ShWa

    The cops did too much point blank period.

  • Renee26

    No charges filed.... It was all for nothing

  • The Art

    I do think there was excessive force used, but I'm not mad because these idiots called it upon themselves and were passing their bad habits down to the next generation. I'm tired of the self-imposed cycle.

  • Renee26

    ???

  • Vegas1989

    Congrad on the new job e job. And you should not be reading this early this morning because you know that these comments are all going to be off the chain. Let me go warm up my oatmeal

  • Renee26

    Idiots for sure... My block finger is itchin already

  • Topic Influencer

    Baby I done used mine already

  • The Art

    Well, when 7 percent of the population commits 80 percent of the crime, there's a problem.

  • Renee Bee

    Do it! ?
    (Good Morning chick.)

  • http://batman-news.com Roderick2011

    Yes they can.

    The cop who shot that black caretaker who had his hands up just got off on the attempted manslaughter charge but he was convicted on some misdemeanor charge which carries a one year sentence.

    So basically no time, a long vacation and back pay.

  • Yardgirl

    Exactly but was ready to shoot!!?

  • CookieMobster

    The cops had no way to know if they were armed or not. They asked them to get out the car, they did not and the cop took further action. IMO, too much action, but if they had not resisted, we would not be talking about this. PERIODT

  • Marlika

    I’m sure whom ever recording the video of the cops pulling the gun did not show the whole incident as usual.

    Now what was recording on the video shows excessive force. Who’s to say that the family ( minus the kids) refuse to comply with the cops orders??? No one knows but they people there. If anything the cops should be suspended and have to under go sensitivity training but not fired.

    This sorry ass family don’t deserve shat!! The sorry pappy had to steal some drawls! He’s playing victim big time! And I wish Jayz ugly ass would mind his damn business until his team gets all the facts.? What is he in competition the that whore Kim K about who can help the most black folks?? She’s another idiot who jumps the gun instead of taking her time and researching. I’m tired of people jumping to conclusions every time they see a half of a video or someone post something on social media!?

  • Nathan Hastings

    I feel bad for the children.

  • Coy little wink

    Thanks boo ? God is able ?

  • dontgetblocked

    Of course the police overreacted. That's why you don't give them that opportunity. The father was stealing and the daughter did the same.I can't stand behind a person who was doing wrong.

  • SaltineCrackers

    F.Y.I.

    1) The Police were NEVER called regarding the alleged shoplifting. There is literally no record of PPD getting a call about the Family. Family Dollar is on record saying they never called.

    2) When the Police began following them, they knew the family was unarmed, but the Family did not know they were being followed.

  • Evillene

    The cops threatened to shoot and kill them over stolen merchandise with a value of less than $10. Stealing is wrong. But killing is more wrong. These KKKops are out of control. They are psychologically damaged white supremacists who want to kill and maim black children. I hope the family of thieves gets a multi-million dollar settlement just for the emotional damage watching that video has caused ME.

  • Renee26

    Good Morning!

  • Topic Influencer

    Bitch wrong. 45% is via Hispanics. 32% via whites and Blacks are at TWENTY PERCENT for robbery. Pretty much same break down for all crimes except MURDER where WHITES take the lead there in Arizona.

    Find you a pie chart and have a fukkin SEAT. And stop bad mouthing based on feelings vs facts.

  • Dowoop

    Says the dumbass jumping to their own conclusions.

  • Renee26

    Interesting... So what prompted this?

  • Renee26

    He certainly is!

  • Mr.LeBrickJames

    My view on this might not be popular, but I think the parents need to recognize they share a lot of the blame here. This situation could have gotten out of hand, and somebody could have gotten killed, because of their actions. What happened to them was wrong for sure, but they created this situation by shoplifting in the first place.
    Now they're suing for big money, but I'm not sure I'd want them to be collecting millions of taxpayer dollars as compensation for this. Don't steal... and don't encourage your kids to steal, period.

  • Kanyade

    mercy. my thoughts:

    it was still excessive. regardless of how much/how little was stolen; regardless of how much subterfuge went on with the adults, it's still excessive. those cops were perched on "on one" ready to get their Call of Duty on for a pack of stolen underwear and a low-budget Barbie doll. extreme much? yup. extreme.

    social twitter be on one, too, just ready to jump and rock-steady on any abuse recorded...without knowing the facts. i hate injustice, but i don't know if i could be that kind of soldier.

    also, off-topic, why when i do a gif search for wendy raquel robinson, i get melba moore and when i do a gif search for melba moore, i get mandy moore but no melba. how incorrectmeta is that? lol

  • Marlika

    Says the dump ass who responded!? Go suck your mother and mind ya business!

  • Renee26

    You and these made up statistics ???

  • Phillybruh

    They followed them home for dollar store stuff the doll was probably broke by they time got home...

  • Topic Influencer

    And I aint here for it

  • Vegas1989

    I'm in agreement with you on this!!!!

  • PLEASEDontTellMe

    The man can't afford underwear, or laundry detergent,but he has weapons? But I digress
    Before we begin comparing apples to bullets...Let's be clear; The black community does not fault the establishment or their workers for calling the police..they did what they are supposed to do. The black community are not creating signs and protesting shouting, let the less fortunate get away with criminal acts, because their black and less fortunate. The black community is not demanding PEACE Officers/Officers of the Law not do their job....THE BLACK COMMUNITY is asking, seeking understanding, wanting to know, WHY IS IT NECESSARY to USE EXCESSIVE FORCE, specifically DISPROPORTIONATELY than you would use in a none-PERSONS of Color community? Why is it necessary to draw guns on a pregnant woman holding an infant child? WHY are we not able to expect in certain situations a reasonable amount of "assessing of the situation"...To work in most law enforcement agencies, it requires a college education...that would mean, besides brawn and gun force, their is a certain amount of brain power required to do their job effectively.

  • Renee26

    I see you got time today! Get emmmm (in Methods voice)

  • Jay

    this petty theft to the action of the cops... is like killing an ant with ledge hammer.

  • Renee26

    Damn shame ?

  • Mr.LeBrickJames

    I agree. That cycle is pretty disturbing. When your parents are stealing in your presence, and encouraging you to steal when you're still just a toddler, that's a bad situation to grow up in. The odds are already stacked against them in life just by having parents like this. I feel terrible for kids who have to grow up in that kind of home environment.

  • SaltineCrackers

    They were supposedly in the store for another shoplifting incident and a store security guard said that the lady in brown was had taken something.

    The first Woman you see the little girl speak to is her Aunt.

    The way the story was first reported is very different than the way it's being reported now. Search for article if you can.

  • http://batman-news.com Roderick2011

    I can just imagine the types of n-s the cops called that family while they followed them.

  • The Art

    Get out of your feelings....

    "Black people in Phoenix were disproportionately killed. While 6 percent of Maricopa County's population is black, 21 percent of its homicide victims were black."....don't be mad at me, seems like you're the one who needs a pie chart.

  • RealATLPeach36

    I don’t care if dad stole underwear off the cashier ass! The reactions were horrible, scary and frightened me. Put tha baby on tha ground...haha! This is/was scary

  • The Art

    I'm not a follower or in need of your validation. My comments are based on facts.

  • Phillybruh

    They always making up stats

  • Evillene

    Completely true. If white family had shoplifted -- and they do all the time, in much greater numbers than blacks -- it wouldn't have gone down like this. Fundamental problem is racism in law enforcement. These KKKops are conditioned to see blacks as a dangerous enemy and a scourge to society. They will always use excessive to deadly force, and words intended to dehumanize their victims. They view whites as non-threatening, misguided but deserving of dignity and a second chance no matter what. If a black store clerk called police over a $10 theft KKKops would have cursed out the black store clerk.

  • Kimocha

    I'm sorry but I didn't see him steal anything in that 2 sec clip... Am I missing something??

    https://media0.giphy.com/media/WNlzNg6c81zLdyoPHz/giphy.gif

  • SaltineCrackers

    They knew they were unarmed. The police department initially stated that they knew the family was unarmed. Go look at earlier reports. They never received a call on the Family.

  • Jersey Girl

    and yet a suspect can shoot up churches, kill innocent people and still be taken ever so gently in cuffs and taken to bk for food... THIS IS AMERIKKA!. Color is your weapon or your safety net. #disgusted by the people blaming the folkS stealing as if they dont know Black america is worth less than 500 liquid! so yes people will steal for underwear because they cant afford it!

  • Topic Influencer

    What the fukk murder gotta do with shoplifting/larceny/theft/robbery numbers there?

    "Of those persons arrested, 68.3 percent were White, 9.7 percent were Black, 8.0 percent
    were American Indian/Alaskan Native, 0.5 percent were Asian and 0.1 percent were Pacific
    Islander. Hispanics accounted for 22.9 percent of the arrests."

    Now go choke. Or drink bleach. Or play in traffic (be sure to wait til 5 pm your local time tho).

  • Kanyade

    the hilarity of it all. i heard bad things about juvia's place's *cough* customer service, when the company was starting out. shame they are still as unprofessional post-success and such.

  • RealATLPeach36

    It’s how they did it! Telling the woman, he’ll shoot her in the head! And for THE BLACKS on here saying they don’t feel sorry for them...HOW? I mean stealing go to jail community service but a bullet in the MFing head wtf!

    We can’t get a bytch azz place as a community because we can’t stick together on the damn basic shyt! Right is right wrong is wrong.

    As my granny says:

    It’s not what you do; it’s how you do it.

  • Topic Influencer

    Your comments are based on self hate if you are black and racist bullshit if you are not.

  • GuestSTAR

    True. Dravon was just on Joe Maddison and he said there was no police report of the incident nor were they charged with anything. The police officer twisted the baby's arm and the baby was taken to the hospital.Their vehicle was impounded and they had to walk home.
    They approached this family like they had just committed a strong armed robbery, murder or carjacking.

  • Kimberly King

    White people. Lol do they really think that stolen underwear and a Barbie doll are valid reasons to act how they acted ? Pathetic.

  • Mr.LeBrickJames

    How could they know they were unarmed? When a cop stops you in a vehicle, how can they know you don't have a gun in the car?

  • NewNew

    Sadly everyone is wrong in this situation. The father is wrong for putting his whole family in a compromising position by shop lifting. The police were excessive in brandishing deadly weapons when no real threat was present.

    At the end of the day, we all know that cops are extra when it comes to people of color and black folks specifically. It's not right and it needs to change but, at present, it is what it is. The father endangered his family by bringing them all along to commit crimes. The crimes were petty but crimes nonetheless. He shoulders 65% of the blame in my book.

  • Li-Wright

    Yes, I saw it. The police still overreacted, but like the Police Chief said, there's more to the story. And I'm guessing the family regularly steals from the $ store, or other stores. The family lied that they didn't "know" the child took the doll. But the boyfriend did shoplift and they found the goods in the car.
    I doubt the family will get anywhere near $10Million.

  • Li-Wright

    Do you have an opinion about the family "lying" that they didn't know?

  • MsAmour22

    Let's be very clear, THERE IS NO CRIME UNLESS THERE IS AN INJURED PARTY. In order for a crime to take place there must be both a victim and a person responsible. Only individuals have rights and artificial persons such as corporations (The Dollar Store) can not testify in a court of law. When people violate a rule, regulation, code, ordinance or statute they have not violated the law and have not committed a crime. There was a clear violation of constitutional rights by these cops and they will be held accountable. Our people fall victim to this bs because they dont study the law of the land. Know your rights people!

  • Li-Wright

    LMAO!!! I thought the same thing....THE DAMN DOLLAR STORE! Why not steal classy brand underwear from Macys?

  • r r

    "As soon as a black person say something a white person doesn't like, the first thing that white person does is go find some negro to offset what has just been said" -Malcolm X

  • NewNew

    I had the feeling that they are perpetual offenders as well. Just a bad situation all around

  • TeamTewMurch

    They were never arrested...just attacked?

  • LibgraScales

    Well, I'm in the group that doesn't give a damn what they stole. They didn't deserve to have guns drawn on them in that manner, especially with a infant child present. It just shouldn't happen. That is the issue. Yes, they stole and should have been arrested, but there are ways to do it. These trigger happy cops make me sick because they certainly have no regard for the community in which they serve. And I heard this morning on the radio that the child has a dislocated arm from the police trying to grab her. A one year old child?? That in itself is unconscionable.

  • Mr.LeBrickJames

    I agree. And a 3-pack of drawers cost what, maybe $4.99? The fact that a man would jeopardize his freedom over a package of drawers is pretty sad to begin with.

  • Evillene

    The parents are children themselves -- 22 years old. You don't think clearly at that age. They didn't commit a violent offense. The consequences for stupidity and immaturity should not be death. It certainly isn't for their yt counterparts

  • Li-Wright

    The family is not getting $10Million. I bet they have a history of shoplifting.
    I hate it when parents go into (any) store and enable their kids to steal. I've been at registers where the parent saw the kid with a toy and told him to put it back. I don't believe the mom didn't know the girl or the boyfriend didn't know they stole it.

  • Ms..N

    The facts the cops did not care that children were in the vehicle is disturbing in itself! They did not have a single care for those children! All they saw was black and destroy! Facts this would have been handled totally different if a white family was involved! We are taxpayers and still are treated as subhumans!

  • goat

    So!

  • SaltineCrackers

    Exactly! Retail stores lose more inventory in transit and returns than what was aledgedy taken. That stop cost tax payers thousands of dollars and nothing came of it, they were never even arrested or charged with ANYTHING.

  • StoneColdLady

    Did the cops use excessive force in this situation, yes: BUT the “family” shouldn’t have been stealing HE HELPED to scar HIS children by stealing WITH them. The doll MAY have been a mistake but HIS stealing was not

  • SpillyNillie

    Yes they do! He could've stolen a candy bar and it would've been off with his head...

  • oshh16

    Excessive force is all I can say about this, I don't condone stealing but the cops reaction was that of armed robbery suspects.

  • RealATLPeach36

    I don’t care what they did! It did NOT give the police the right to tell her he’ll put a bullet in her damn head! It wasn’t the arrest; it’s HOW it was done.

    I’ve learned at an early age you’re responsible for your actions. Every action gets a reaction, BUT

    I WAS TAUGHT ITS NOT WHAT YOU DO ITS HOW YOU DO IT! That was wrong. Lock them up put them on probation but the threats the screaming wasn’t necessary.

    That’s my opinion

  • Bleu Lantern

    I PRAY you never have children. You are discussing this so casually. Let's say the father didn't steal and the little girl didn't put the doll back. THERE WAS A PREGNANT WOMAN AND A 4 YEAR OLD. YOU DO NOT FOLLOW A FAMILY YOU BELIEVE IS ARMED. YOU PULL THEM OVER!!!! Please get yourself excused from jury duty. We don't need your cold heart judging the fate of others who look like you.

  • Phillybruh

    Oh now I get why they released the VIDEO, they actually might have to pay out that money.

  • Li-Wright

    Do you actually believe the cops were going to shoot & KILL! the people? I don't. I think they were exercising excessive force to get them to surrender.
    It's probably in their training manual. Notice that the Phoenix Chief has backed off her claim against the police officers and says there's more to the story?
    Family will NOT be getting $10Million. Jayz should support their arses.

  • Renee Bee

    I'm just happy this did not happen at night. The popo would have killed them.
    Thank God for the person who recorded this.

  • WhoKnew

    This is Nancy "None of Your Damned Business" reporting from the screets.

    Two kneegrows stole drawers and some other stuff from a Dolla store. Holla. They knew stealing was wrong no matter the value. Your daring reporter is perplexed as to why they brought their 4 y/o kid with them and possibly put the kid in harm's way since Dolla store employees are very protective of the store's shyt and will fight a mutha hunchie over $1. It don't take a genius to know if you're black "fall back" cuz whyte "5-0" will shoot your azz first and evaluate the sit-chew-ation later. By offering to pay their legal fees all BeYonker's grand-fava Jay-Z did was encourage more petty crimes like this because it will embolden some people to commit a crime to secure a dime. A "go-fund-me" check.

    This has been Nancy "None of Your Damned Business" reporting from the screets and it's only Tuesday. Whew chile, bye. I'm going to lunch at Ted's all you can drink tequila's and it's only 9:30 in da damned morning. I might make the WTF??? 4 p.m. newscast and I might not.

  • RealATLPeach36

    Bleu thank you explain this...let me get back to my work. Uggg

  • We Can Do This

    This man put his family at risk over petty thievery. I can not back his action knowing the social climate we are in involving encounters with law enforcement.

    This seemed like a routine visit to the store to commit petty larceny.

    He should be shamed.

  • Li-Wright

    Oh, so they are habitual shoplifters?

  • r r

    Yes Bleu, make it plain

  • Phillybruh

    Well based on reports the police weren't called on this family, but followed back to their home. They might not get 10 mill but they will get a nice settlement and with Jay-z paying the legal fees.

  • SpiceGirl

    What ever...the po po did TOOOOO DAMN much......period point blank!!
    They drew down on them like they just robbed a bank and killed EVERYONE in it!!!

  • SaltineCrackers

    They followed them to the Babysitter's house.

    What I don't understand is, if the Family was such a threat why didn't they stop them by the store?

  • r r

    Right

  • Phillybruh

    Yes, I can believe they said it and I believe they would have done it.

  • SpillyNillie

    Twisted the baby's arm?!?!?!?

  • SaltineCrackers

    What? How did you get that from what I wrote? What exactly do you need clarification on?

  • Li-Wright

    Okay, let's rewind. Police walk up to the car and say, "ma'am please exit the car." (you know she won'tl) She resists. Ma'am, please exit the car. She starts screaming and then the police have to use force.

    It happens like that a lot. These folks are habitual shoplifters, I betcha.

  • Phillybruh

    Since Family Dollar didn't call the police on this family nor have they pressed any charges, the family didn't steal anything.

  • Li-Wright

    I notice even Oprah has gotten involved along w/ Jayz. Maybe these celebs should wait a few days for the facts to come out because they jump to support.

  • SaltineCrackers

    Yes. They wanted the Mother to put the baby on the floor, but she no because the ground was too hot and he tried to pull the baby from her arms.

  • SpillyNillie

    Right! The copy was heard clearly in the video stating that he'd shoot them.

  • Sid

    And they blocking people. What company blocks people based on their opinions lol

  • r r

    Why do we feel like our people should be treated like animals. They're humans regardless of what petty crime they committed. The fact that this would not have happened had it been any other group of people. Yall give them a greenlight to treat us like sh*t. They could have been being upstanding citizens out on a nice afternoon with their children and guess what, this would have still happened because they hate us simply for the color of our skin. In many of these cases they don't give a damn about whether we have committed a crime. They hate our mere existence.

  • Li-Wright

    The family is not getting $10million.

  • Yardgirl

    he’ll shoot her in the head!
    **************************
    This is the comment that chilled me to the core of my being!! That racist pig meant every word of it and would have done it if he would get away with it!!

  • 11pink123

    These ppl are pathetic. They got caught stealing and did not want to get out of the car. The police did they job.

    They not gone win the state of Arizona with this nonsense. Jay Z money can’t buy them anything in Arizona. Arizona do not play and DO NOT care about popular opinion.

    I hope ol boy and his family got a clean record cause Arizona is with the business and they will give them the show down that they are looking for. It ain’t California. Arizona has some stumborn ppl out there.

    They need to take that L and go sit tf down. Should not have been stealing.

  • Li-Wright

    They are (and look) broke.

  • SaltineCrackers

    I always tell people to try and read what was initially reported because it's usually the truest version. By the time it gets to a blog like this the department creates a naritive thats demonizes the victim and justifies their actions.

  • Renee26

    Even with these new videos the couple needs their support... Those pigs were outta line

  • Topic Influencer

    In their face

  • Kanyade

    blocking people = sure fire way to LIMIT business. they're cutting off their coins. oh well.

  • $252011299

    It is on video, Sherlock!! It depends on their state laws. For example, even if a person does not press charges in NY, the police can apply the criminal complaint.

  • jeniefrumdabloc™

    Chile knew this was some shyt with Jay attached to it .... moving on

  • Li-Wright

    You don't know that. Police often scream and holler to get people to react quickly.

  • Topic Influencer

    I think its time for you to gargle some bleach too.

  • jeniefrumdabloc™

    New post please .... this is smh ... can we get some good news Chile....

  • WhoKnew

    Yerp. Like really, dude? Go take care of your own family. These people created this mess let them find their own way out of it.

  • r r

    Say it again

  • Mr.LeBrickJames

    OK, I don't disagree. The police response was definitely excessive. We all recognize that. I'm just saying the parents need to acknowledge they put themselves and their kids in a life threatening situation, and it was totally unnecessary. That's on them. I've seen this kind of rachetness up front with my own eyes, and I'm tired of "us" making excuses for it. They're not kids, they're adults age 22 and 24.

  • Renee26

    Ok! Savages still wanna see us hanging from trees

  • TransMichelle

    Thank You...this n/gga-sh*t is getting out of hand. Black folks are the most dysfunctional group. You can't teach em' and you can't help em'. The best thing to do is separate yourself from the hoodrats. A lot of these "thugs" and their kin carry guns. How were the cops supposed to know if they were armed or not? Black folks expect to get away with any type of behavior and not pay consequences for it. They bring this sh*t on themselves like the AIDS infestation in Atlanta. Look at our neighborhoods...! Black folks get mad at others because of THEIR OWN behavior. F*CK EM'
    Yeah I wrote it. Unlike these weak azzes I'm not taking it back. So those of you who don't like what I wrote:

    https://media2.giphy.com/media/l4KhRmDdm9n0DZVKM/giphy.gif

    BYE I'M OUT..!

  • r r

    But Dylan Roof kills 9 church going black people and he gets taken alive and taken to Burger King smh people are still sleep

  • SpillyNillie

    I've said it before and I'll say it again. I have literally watched with my own eyes white people go toe to damn toe, verbally and physically with policeman and they didn't come close to getting this reaction from them. Yes, they stole. Yes, they were wrong. Did it warrant that reaction from the police officers? Absolutely not. Put it in perspective people. WE get the same violent reaction from the police when running a stop light, stealing from a store, selling cigarettes, having a broken tail light, etc. However, the Dylan's of the world can commit mass murder and walk out unharmed and offered Burger King later at the precinct. WAKE UP! MAKE IT MAKE SENSE!!

  • NewNew
  • Li-Wright

    If they were shoplifting elsewhere then went to the $ store to shoplift, they are habitual. I wouldn't be surprised if more tape pops up where they shoplift all the time.
    Just saying....not excusing the police for their overreaction, but don't encourage your baby to steal.

  • Ms..N

    If you say so! Let us know when it happens to you and you still praise them for their efforts!!

  • SaltineCrackers

    The Police department's initial statement was that they knew they were unarmed. That's what the Police Department said, not me.

  • jeniefrumdabloc™

    Keep saying he full of shyt ... more will come out that whole dam demonic azz family ... everything they is in vain periodt ... same with the Kardashians .... fake martyr s ! Spoke on this before so please do not get fooled .... with these types there is always a motive behind their so called (false) help ... shid

  • NewNew

    It's wrong, I think we all agree on that. Both parties were wrong. If he was going to roll the dice he shouldn't have brought his whole family with him.

  • Li-Wright

    Hmmm....a white guy was just killed by the Dallas police because he was shooting at the Govt building. Cops kill white people(criminals) ALL the time.

  • r r

    You're being dishonest about how this went down. There was no ma'am and please in this exchange at all

  • TransMichelle

    They don't like FACTS on here. It's all about their "feelings."

  • http://sandrarose.com SandraRose

    The police are trained to yell very loudly and say shocking things to get criminals to comply with their orders.

  • The Art

    I don't feel like our people should be treated like animals. But, I've seen too many of our people constantly put themselves in situations that raises the risks of being treated like an animal or worse. I feel that there is not enough people within the community holding each other accountable for the dumb stuff that many of us do. We always galvanize and unite to react and attack the powers that be. But where's the unity and organized prevention in the community?

  • Phillybruh

    Actually dip wad, once they were off the store property the police were wrong. Had this happen in the parking lot of the family dollar you may have a point but they were not on the property and were home. And the police were not called for this family.

  • Li-Wright

    Yep, it's like domestic abuse. The wife may not want to file charges against the husband, but the SA will file charges. Don't need the wife.

  • NewNew

    That's not necessarily accurate. Just because a domestic violence victim doesn't press charges it doesn't mean her man didn't beat her azz.

  • jeniefrumdabloc™

    Just seen it demon shyt !

  • Pamela

    Who are n***gers in this story?

  • SpillyNillie

    Change your name to Lee White...

  • SaltineCrackers

    Meanwhile Netflix has a new series damn near glorifying shoplifting. You can actually learn how to shop lift from the show.

  • Phillybruh

    But wouldn't she have to have called the police to begin with, which family dollar says they did not.

  • TransMichelle

    AGREED

  • WHYJESUSWHY

    How about all this could have been avoided if this triflin man and his wife weren't thieves....

  • PLEASEDontTellMe

    auhhhhh mean Friend!!! ....i thought it was me....i had to re-read my own post to ensure that i did not convey the underwear to be the point....but wheather it's Li-Wright's ignorance, or attempt at trolling.... it's all the same fluck you to me.

  • Phillybruh
  • MsSapphire9800

    Nothing this couple or their child did...deserves that type of behavior from those police officers....I keep hearing those words over an over in my head...""I'm gonna put a f**king cap in your f**king head." A pack of underwear and a $4 dollar= $15. Trust and believe if that person was not there and recording ...this would had ended different.

  • Karen Brady

    BeYonker's???? LOL.

  • WhoKnew

    Tell the truth!

    I'm not buying any of it with the Carters and Kardashians. I can see if the man and the woman did nothing wrong "AT ALL". But they committed a petty crime. They knew when they went into the store with the intent to steal that (1) the female was pregnant and might get hurt if things went left; and(2) the 4 y/o kid might get hurt and (3) cops might be called and you might get shot but they did it anyway. Now they're trying to flip the script and sue. Whateva. Coming to the stage next will be Napoleon "Tip" Harris. He'll be the next one to insert himself. Watch and see.

  • Mr.LeBrickJames

    So if I steal something but the store doesn't report it, then that means actually didn't steal anything? Come on, bro.
    OK, technically they didn't get charged with a crime, but they still stole though. It's on video. We really need to hold trifling nigros accountable, instead of always looking to make excuses for their bad behavior.

  • KcoolMuziq

    True! Oprah did the same thing before the facts was revealed about another incident a few months ago. She said she would NEVER give a beggar on the street money again.

  • WhoKnew

    Bat shyt crazy she is.

  • Dowoop

    What's dump ass? Are u talking about Trump?

  • KcoolMuziq

    But this incident isn't about ANY race.

  • Phillybruh

    Only thing we know is the daughter ran out of the store with the doll, the rest is the cops playing defense because they will be found liable.

  • jeniefrumdabloc™

    Yep TIp with his charlatan azz will be next speaking up .... I will never vouch for a thief .... periodt .
    . Call it cold but in 2019 folks should know better .... moving on ....

  • SpiceGirl

    I know right!!! Make that make sense!! Oh wait...the complexion for protection...I get it now!

  • SpillyNillie

    And to think that our own people are convinced that it did. It's sad and disheartening.

  • Renee26

    ?

  • WhoKnew

    " I will never vouch for a thief .... periodt .
    Call it cold but in 2019 folks should know better .... moving on ...."
    _________________________________________

    Ditto.

  • Renee26

    Ok! I'm disgusted by this whole ordeal

  • PLEASEDontTellMe

    How about all this could have been avoided if the triflin officers weren't so eager and willing to kill this man and his wife weren't (they BLACK people, seemingly from a poor community) ...THERE i Fixed it for you...the petty theft in this situation is secondary by the way

  • Nicole Nikki Robbins

    Few and Far between, when it does happen it's so rare that it sticks out, in the black community it's an everyday occurrence, at this point I've lost count. But thanks for pointing out that ONE time a white person did get shot at.

  • Nicole Nikki Robbins

    100% correct, I totally agree.

  • Renee26

    Right... Probably rehearsed all the threats they'd yell out and joked about the outcome

  • jeniefrumdabloc™

    Stealing is a crime ..
    No matter who it is ... da fall out from that theft is just ... it can get ugly .... but to steal is to take that risk for anything to be sent back to your azz ....

  • hottlanta

    Is wynonna ryder in it. She stole 5000.00 from saks n got a slap on the wrist.

  • PLEASEDontTellMe

    and not nair a gun pulled

  • Mr.LeBrickJames

    Trump is trailing Biden, Harris, Warren, and Sanders in multiple early polls right now. That's good news... but Ms. Rose probably won't post an article about that.

  • hottlanta

    Still wondering did the cop charge it to thé city for reimbursement

  • r r

    I don't disagree with that. Yes we have to do better but at the same time we also have to stick together when we are being wronged because this happens even when we are not committing crimes, we are literally dying for the same things other groups are not. Why do we have to be handled like we are less than human. We aren't! We deserve the same benefit of the doubt as anyone else. Right is right and wrong is wrong and what this family did absolutely does not justify the way these people with a badge treated them.

  • Renee Bee
  • PLEASEDontTellMe

    Did you watch 20/20 Friday? 30 hours with the president.

  • SpillyNillie

    I worked in retail during high school and undergrad. White children stole, their parents were called. White adults stole, they were given the opportunity to put it back, leave the store and was told never to return. Chile.....

  • Wakando Shamar Taylor

    Let's talk about the woman for a sec. got two young kids and pregnant with another and the baby daddy cant even by himself a pair of draws!! Got to make better choices ladies!!

  • Michelle Peele

    Was just thinking the exact same thing...

  • T Willis

    A routine shoplifting Trip...
    ????

  • WhoKnew

    That is great news....thanks for the update...

  • r r

    Girl these people don't get it. Its frustrating because they look like us.

  • WHYJESUSWHY

    So because they are poor that gives them a right to steal? There are a lot of poor people who don't steal. I grew up with drug addicted parents and 9 other siblings and we were dirt poor but we never stole. The cops were wrong, However, if they weren't stealing this would have never happened. What grown man takes his family on a shoplifting trip and what women takes her kids on a shoplifting trip? Trifling mofos that's who! So because I don't have money for lunch today, I am going to go to YOUR house and steal from you! I don't make excuses for people's fuckery regardless if they share my skin tone. There, I fixed it for you!

  • WhoKnew

    LOL...thanks I needed that laugh this earlT in da morning.

  • WhoKnew

    Yerp...it's a huge risk.

  • T Willis

    Both were wrong - but the situation was created by the couple. Had they NOT been shoplifting, the outcome could have been completely different. I ain’t about to lose one shred of my credibility defending this bullsh*t. We have too many instances of actual “outrage” to focus our energy on a bunch of hood boogers that got caught boosting sh*t. We need to have higher standards for ourselves.

  • T Willis

    No, cops arrest and kill murderers, rapist, and thieves... they are THIEVES & no one should be defending their criminal antics. This isn’t a black family enjoying their lives peacefully. These are criminal gutter bucks stealing from a local business. Whatever happens after that point ain’t a “black issue” as far as I’m concerned.

  • TheWildChild

    Exactly ? I hope the police have this same energy taking down violent child molesters and sexual predators ?

  • Coffee1st

    "The cops were wrong, HOWEVER",
    ??THIS ??..........smgdh.

  • speakinmymind

    The petty theft is primary in this situation. It was the cause of everything that happened afterwards.

  • WHYJESUSWHY

    However, Don't steal!

  • NewNew

    When I worked retail I found that middle aged white women were the biggest offenders. Of course it depends on what merchandise is being sold, but they were big culprits
    We had numerous trainings about watching every customer because you can't tell who will be the one to steal. I had a manager fired because he ran after someone who had stolen the whole front table display. Not allowed. I remember qhen I worked next to a Seven for All Mankind store and someone ran by the front door and around the corner with a stack of jeans. The Valentino store here gets broken into at least 2 times a year. Theives will be theives!

  • The Art

    It's a perception issue from years of senseless crimes committed by blacks and stereo types that the culture keeps perpetuating. We've successfully branded ourselves as dangerous and many folks aren't willing to give us the benefit of the doubt anymore. Yes, it's wrong. But, only we can change that. Sticking together also includes letting each other know when we're wrong. Too many blacks flat out reject authority of any kind and aren't open to corrective measures until its too late or they're pressed up against a wall.

  • Michelle Peele

    I hope he comes up with a new word to use...expeditiously is old now!

  • Renee Bee

    Lol. You're welcome.
    Nan is going to jump all over me when she checks back in. ??

  • WhoKnew

    ???

  • MsSapphire9800

    You are entitle to your opinion...NOTHING JUSTIFY that officer behavior.

  • SpillyNillie

    middle aged white women were the biggest offenders -- this is a well known fact. However, black/brown people are "monitored" the most in retail stores.

  • T Willis

    We need to focus on the instances where we aren’t the ones committing crimes. The moment a black person commits a crime, regardless of severity, we lose all credibility when we defend the behavior in any way. It’s not enough to acknowledge the wrong doing of our own, we have to start taking black ppl to task when they commit crimes. The same way the Chicago PD is going after Jussie, we need to use that same energy when one of our own commit crimes.

  • Michelle Peele

    Truth! Why put yourself in that situation knowing full well that some cops are trigger happy. You know u out of drawers, wash what u have even if u gotta do it by hand!

  • SaltineCrackers

    Right! The cop literally told the man he would put a bullet in his head. For what?!?! It sounded very premeditated to me.

  • T Willis

    I think we need to put this into perspective. The couple committed a crime. This isn’t a Tamir Rice situation. Debating the severity of the crime doesn’t change the fact that they are criminals. Yes, cops are overzealous - mostly when it involves black ppl who aren’t committing crimes. Let’s stick to defending those instances instead defending a bunch of criminals.

  • MsSapphire9800

    So if he had shot and killed her...would it had been justify because of her social economic and her choice of men.

  • Mr.LeBrickJames

    Well, if I steal from a store and then get mistreated by the cops, is it wrong for someone to point out that I put myself in a bad situation by stealing? I don't think it's wrong to look at both sides of the issue.

  • T Willis

    They are nicknamed Aryanzona ?

  • SingleGalCrazyWorld

    This all could have been avoided if they didn't steal!!! How the hell do you steal draws tho??? Yall too busy making babies but cant even keep a clean pair of underwear in the house...Their child is picking up on bad habits they've exposed her to...Since this "incident" they have been pandering on the news for sympathy of the public...Im sick of seeing them on tv and that Amazonian police captain with that old ass hairdo...if they really wanna say something they need to lawyer up and have their attorney speak for them cause they come off like uneducated reckless fools...It doesn't excuse the behavior of the police but I cant stand a thief...

  • T Willis

    They pulled their guns on criminals who got caught committing a crime on camera. They are black and walked away alive. There is zero reason for any outrage.

  • T Willis

    Did I miss something? Isn’t the couple alive? Why are people outraged? They are criminals who committed a crime on camera, and lived to tell the tale... what’s the problem?

  • SingleGalCrazyWorld

    I agree...I worked in retail for years and seen the poorest of the poor and the richest of the rich steal products from the store....the cops still treated them like shit regardless of their credit score or fancy shoes...they all got into the paddywagon didn't matter what they looked like...a thief is a thief and cannot be trusted anywhere...

  • SpillyNillie

    So what do you propose? Starting with this couple...

  • T Willis

    Exactly. I don’t know why mfers are caping for this idiot. I wonder how liberal they’d feel if the couple robbed their asses. I bet they’d be quick to put a bullet in that ass and ask questions later.

  • Topic Influencer

    Who are located in NOTORIOUSLY RACIST ASS ARIZONA.

  • SingleGalCrazyWorld

    Its on video tho...now you done seen a crackhead running down 52nd street with a pack of socks and cops chasing them...its almost everyday in Philly LOL...

  • Mr. Poopybutthole

    They arses in a dollar store stealing underwear clearly they have zero funds for a lawyer.

  • SingleGalCrazyWorld
  • SingleGalCrazyWorld

    I thought Jay-Z's company was representing them??? I guess thats not true either...best believe there's some fame hungry lawyer that will represent them...

  • Mr.LeBrickJames

    I always feel bad for the kids raised in this type of situation. I got a nephew right now who has two trifling parents, and it's just sad to see how he's already heading down a path to nowhere. The deck is already stacked against him by not having any real parental guidance. It's sad when the parents' irresponsible actions set their kids up for failure ahead. Not to say that they can't succeed in life, but it's an uphill climb, and the odds are definitely against them. Sad.

  • SaltineCrackers

    Oh I see where you're going this.

  • Mielle Downey

    Really this is what we are doing? Defending degenerates fie thier bad behavior? They deserved what they got and if it is a deterrent for future bad behavior the cops did thier job. I'm tried of the leftist mob of mentality ill SJW's . Damn

  • Phillybruh

    If the store declines to press charges and wasn't even called for this matter. The family did nothing. I've seen white people get caught and released in KOP for shoplifting.

  • IyanlaVanzantoftheInterWebs
  • Mielle Downey

    she is a trash mother for even inserting her kids in the bullshit

  • Jordan’s Memory

    I am so sick of stories like this. I mean it's sad all the way around. first off I'm tired of hearing stories about people committing crimes then get mad when shitt go horribly wrong afterwards. Those cops don't know wtf they have in there car, just like the cashier didn't know that's why she didn't confront them. lets not act like cops don't get shot and killed during traffic stops. Secondly, are these people just regular thieves or are they that poor and desperate that they felt the need to steal which would be really sad if it's the latter. And furthermore, lets not talk about her having the nerve to let her daughter steal AND be pregnant on top of that. (close ur damn legs to broke negros!) I wouldn't have paid for shittt for I was Jay, Stop stealing and you won't get pulled over with guns drown on you. PERIODTT! YOU and nobody but YOU put your child in danger when YOU decided to use her to help YOU commit a crime! I wonder if this would have even been a story if the cops were black?

  • Phillybruh

    they left that out.

  • IyanlaVanzantoftheInterWebs

    The cop was OVERLY aggressive with the couple and probably is JUST like that during a “routine” traffic stop for not using a turn signal...
    So the cop AND the couple NEED to get their Life RIGHT https://media1.giphy.com/media/QmJ3dsFsjN0zvN4r2m/giphy.gif

  • WhoKnew

    On and off topic.

    A lot of people are defending the actions of this man and woman. They were wrong.

    Bryhere Gray, who is black, was recently arrested in Chicago for driving a rolls royce without a valid driver’s license, no insurance and the registration did not match the tags. He was wrong.

    I went to a cook-out this past Sunday on Father’s Day and someone opened a can of pork n beans, poured them into a dish with no seasoning, brown suga, cinnamon or bbq sauce and called them baked beans. That was wrong. Also at the cook-out someone put 20lbs of cheese with some macaroni and did not mix or stir the cheese. I needed a forklift to lift the spoon. I just said NVM. Whoever committed that crime was wrong. Someone also grilled hamburgers that didn’t have an ounce of seasoning on them or in them and were dry as tree bark. That was wrong.

    Next time I’m going to stay home and stay out of other people’s cook-outs cuz if you ain’t gonna cook the food right, I’m just not interested in coming or that hungry.

  • Topic Influencer

    Why are people outraged?
    ^^^^^
    Where should I start?

    They told them they were going to shoot them and their kids in the face.

    They ordered that lady to put her one year old baby on the hot pavement. She didnt steal shit.

    Once dude got out the car he was kicked while handcuffed.

    They didnt even end up arresting these folks. All of this and they aint even get arrested.

    Its some more but I think this covers the general outrage.

  • Topic Influencer

    I wonder if this would have even been a story if the cops were black?
    ^^^^^
    I hope so. Bc at the end of the day...they are all blue on the inside.

  • Marlika

    I’m talking bout your mother who should have swallowed you.?

  • PLEASEDontTellMe

    I hate all of you people, who try and dumb down the "Killing of black people" epidemic, with the words; had they not been stealing, had they just put their hands up, had they just removed their hands from their pockets, had they just showed their Identifications, had they simply not moved, breathed or blinked an eye................STOP IT!!!! STOP Narrowing this down to be, "Black people think other black people should be able to commit crimes without repercussions""....and we're just mad when they get caught. YOU SOUND STUPID and if you're black and saying this you SOUND even more STUPID. STOP pretending (I'm talking to you black people) if your son, daughter, nephew or otherwise, walked out of the store with a candy bar, and fine a gun in his/her face, that your first concern is the damn candy bar. STOP acting like you don't know what the real conversation is about!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! it's mad annoying. It's mad divisive....it's mad alarming and hurtful when this comes from people whom look like the ones being killed.

  • Marlika

    Yes, I remember that! She’s an idiot as well!!

  • SaltineCrackers

    Lindsey Logan...remeber the movie The bling ring? Anyone who's worked retail knows no one steals more than White Women.

  • SingleGalCrazyWorld

    Thats KOP...A mall with a revenue of upwards of nearly 1 billion a year...Im talking about the stores on walnut or 52nd street or broad & erie that dont have the options of re-cooping their sales...

  • T Willis

    Yeah but is it really an opinion when it affects our collective credibility? What are we really saying with this outrage? That because *some* yt ppl walk unscathed that *all* black people should too? It would be one thing if they were unfairly targeted as thieves and were later drawn on by the cops, with their toddler child. But for this to be an instance of actual criminal behavior, and then on camera lol, the outrage just lessens our credibility when we are truly unfairly targeted and/or killed. The thing with yt ppl is, they never forget and use every opportunity to portray us as hypocrites because they know how illogical and emotional we are when it comes to our own. This isn’t something that’s a matter of opinion - it’s reflective of our credibility and our ability to be taken seriously when actual injustices occur.

  • AListDiva29

    I have over eight years retail experience, and sadly can tell you what you don't want to hear, but black people are the biggest offenders when it comes to shop lifting. Whites and Hispanics definitely do it too, but the thing that pisses me off is black people using their children to help them do it or doing it in front of them! What good is this teaching your child? That u are entitled and above the law? If you can't afford the basics that's one thing, but people $100 jeans, dvd's are not necessities! If u can't afford it, work harder or u can't have it, simple as that!

  • LeeSeeCee

    The parents not owning their part in this whole mess does nothing. If you hadn't been stealing AND lowkey teaching your baby daughter to steal, this would not have happened.
    That being said, the response by the PD was excessive and escalated unnecessarily over a $1 doll and underwear. Literally, underwear. Threatening to shoot over underwear is absolute insanity. The complete lack of training is on display and this could have turned out so much more horribly.

  • Coffee1st

    But did they pull their guns?

  • Mr.LeBrickJames

    Yup. I need to say that a little louder for the people in the back.
    I feel bad for this couple and what they went through, but I only have so much outrage to spread around. I'm not going to spend too much of it on this case. Sorry, there are others out there that are far more deserving.

  • WhoKnew

    When I got my first apartment in my early 20s, I can't tell you the number of times I washed my drawers by hand in the sink. Please. That's what you gotta do sometimes.

  • SingleGalCrazyWorld

    I feel the same way...I see alot of kids with horrible parents and there's nothing that can be done...the only silver lining is that some kids grow up total opposite of what they grew up in...they know the mistakes not to make and dont want to pass that on...

  • Topic Influencer

    Use your block button on posts like these to weed out the ones who need it sis. Everyone aint able to get it. Now that couple was wrong. As I said in my original comment stealing is wrong period. But folks too busy still watching the 13 inch fat back TV (the small blurry picture) vs looking at that 55 inch 4k TV (the big CLEARER picture)

  • doriday

    Those parents put their babies in danger. All of us know already that the penal system is not so kind but to involve our babies is wrong.

  • Phillybruh

    What makes you think they don't recoup for shoplifters all stores do if they don't no wonder they close because they don't budget properly.

  • EasyBreezy

    Level up, damn! You stealing from Family Dollar? #ALLstealingISwrong

  • wigmon68

    "The incident happened on May 27, when Dravon Ames, 22, and Iesha Harper
    took their two daughters with them to the Family Dollar store."

    Was this like a take your family to work day? Training them young to just take what you want.

  • SingleGalCrazyWorld

    Nope put they did pull tasers and whew chile the reactions...Im not excusing the cops behavior but who the hell defends a thief and not only a thief a family of thieves who are setting a poor example for their children!!!!...WE are always expected to root for US when we know god damn well the shit is wrong...they are not ME nor do they represent anyone I know...and in that case fair exchange aint robbery...

  • Jordan’s Memory

    I think its the reason people are up in arms about this only because the cops are white. Its always the case. Black folks are killing each other everyday and it barely makes the news except when the other person doing the killing is white. It's the new money grab, commit a crime get harassed, threaten or beaten, and sometimes killed by a white cop and then they sue. No matter what the black person did it is almost always become a racial issue. it's really getting out of hand at this point because this should not be a story, they should be charged with shoplifting and child endangerment and keep it moving. Nobody should be giving interviews nor should it draw national attention.

  • Michelle Peele

    I've done it too. Stealing wasn't an option!

  • EasyBreezy

    Well damn; were there raisins in the potato salad? #eatWHEREtheSEASONINGis

  • Phillybruh

    You don't work in retail if your coming to that conclusion just say in my store.

  • T Willis

    I propose we let the justice system shell out the punishment and try to work with the family to find employment/housing etc., or help with whatever economical challenges forced them to rob a family dollar for $15 worth of items.

  • EasyBreezy

    Chile...

  • SingleGalCrazyWorld

    Listen you can cape for the them all you want but please dont come on here when someone runs up in your shit and takes your draws and other things outta your house...I want the same sympathy for the thieves when you or someone you know gets robbed...

  • Coffee1st

    True story:
    As a teen I was browsing a small boutique. The sales woman put her eyes on me and glued them. Didn't even try to hide it. I looked over and some white girls were stuffing their bags. Once I saw that, I wasn't even mad. Stayed a little longer than intended so Becky and Heather could finish off their damage.

  • Coffee1st

    Lies.

  • Topic Influencer

    No. Bc the cop that shot the man in Charlotte? Was black. Keith Scott shooting. So no. That has nothin to do with it. Police being trigger happy and shooting unarmed black folks or threatening them has no color bearing but blue to most. What would have been the outcome of this had the couple been white should be the question. Not if the officer had been black

  • xxxgracious

    Stawp!! I didn't finish after reading the baked beans part. I can't lmfao ????

  • kitttykatlady

    Why when she can get food stamps n section 8 n twerk dat ass on Saturday

  • wigmon68

    They threatened to shoot because they didn't know if they were armed or not as they were not following orders.

    Excessive in hindsight because they weren't armed, but there was absolutely no way for police to know that at the time. If they listen to the cops immediately, outcome is different. I agree cops were a bit quick to escalate, but I wouldn't call their actions illegal or a violation of anyones rights.

  • r r

    Okay, so we've successfully branded ourselves as dangerous. Have we worn white hoods and hanged white people from trees? Have we sicked dogs on people for trying to vote, have we attacked white people with water hoses for trying to eat, have we whipped people because they didn't want to pick our cotton, have we cried rape and let innocent white men be lynched or thrown in jail over a lie. Somehow society has managed to brand US as dangerous. You see that, we are the dangerous ones. SMH my people my people

  • WhoKnew

    It's friggin criminal. I had my mouth set on some nice baked beans...you should have seen my face...I'm pushing my spoon around looking for some cinnamon or a green onion or something and these jokers were strait from da can with no chasers. LMFAO!!!!

  • SingleGalCrazyWorld

    Dont block me Renee!!! My opinion is different... but I Luh U and Topic Influencer LOL...

  • xxxgracious

    Well I use to work at Ann Taylor back in college. And let me tell you those yt women were stealing everything. And they had the money for it! Especially in the dressing room. I'd check on them and they complain about me being too friendly!

  • MsPam

    Netflix has a documentary about women in jail here in Sacramento. Really?! One of the skanks thinks she is a celebrity, takin about people ask her for autograph.

  • yvette46

    She keep spewing out babies to help her shoplift more.. What a hot, ghetto, mess!!

  • SpillyNillie

    And why should this family receive preferential treatment ahead of all the other Black families that need help finding employment, housing, etc.? I'm sure those programs are currently available to Arizona residents.

  • WhoKnew

    I didn't even bother to put anything else on my plate. I said "eff it" I'm just gonna be hungry. They ain't finna kill me with this nasty food. I sipped on a pepsi for 20 more minutes and said let's go get something to eat.

  • Phillybruh

    I have sympathy for the way they were treated, I am not condoning the stealing. However the cops were not called on this family according to the story, they were not stopped at the store but followed all the way home. Once the property has left the general business area it is lost, I learned that when I worked at Modells, if they get across the street with it it is a loss. And when I worked at models most of the thieves were not us. Even on 69th street. So which means if these thieves made it all the way home the store counted the merch as a loss.

  • xxxgracious

    You got that Bush's Baked Beans...I would know cause my ass can't cook. I buy the maple kind LOL.

  • Ice

    Exactly. No charges have been filed against them. The fact is the amount of force by the police was completely disproportionate to the offence. I can’t believe people would justify this sort of uncontrolled violence from supposed peace officers.

  • imright

    little dirty broke asses ?

  • yvette46

    I don't agree with you saying black people steal more.. You guys have your EYES on us that you are not watching Whites and Hispanic !! My opinion..

  • AListDiva29

    Nope, have worked in 3 different stores and it was the same in all.

  • SaltineCrackers

    You either work in black majority neighborhoods or you worked in stores that only watched black people because that's a damn lie! No one steals more that whyte women and they're good at it, so good most of their theft goes unnoticed while in progress.

  • Dowoop

    I think my mom spits she don't swallow.

  • Phillybruh

    now your trying to justify the officers by using the word rob.

  • Michelle Peele

    Don Lemon interviewed the couple along with their lawyer. The lawyer speaks of a lot of other stuff that took place between the police and the young man. When Don asked the young lady her thoughts in the shoplifting video she pretty much replied 'no comment' as she couldn't speak in those maters

  • WhoKnew

    Nah, they weren't even Bush's Baked Beans. Those I could have eaten. These tasted like they were Campbell's pork n beans strait from the can..

  • AListDiva29

    It's not a competition, just stating the facts. I don't know why people get so mad about it, encourage ppl to do better!

  • r r

    smh being broke shouldn't be a death warrant

  • wonderwoman

    Hell Trump trailed Hilary, but we see how that turned out. I’ll wait until election night to get excited, if everything turns out okay.

  • Torae

    The couple was wrong but doing all of what the police did was unnecessary. Their actions to me shows pure HATE. They are not scared and they are ready to kill by any means necessary because of HATE!

  • r r

    Come on nah, talk about it!

  • Reina1718

    She high & preggo, they been stealing.

  • r r

    Nobody is mad, but facts are facts. The complete picture must be painted, not just half

  • xxxgracious

    I was in J. Crew just browsing and this young lady who worked their was very helpful but was all in my face. Meanwhile the front door was beeping because some yt lady took off. Funny thing is they shrugged it off and kept following me smh.

  • CardiB’sAbs

    Why are you reproducing if you have to steal underwear?

  • WhoKnew

    ...and you know how sometimes when you're grilling a burger or hot dog and it slip through the grate onto the charcoal? So I tried to eat a turkey hot dog and literally spit the first bite out onto my plate. I hope no one was watching. That joint tasted like it fell onto the ground or charcoal and they picked it up and tried to wash it off with some Comet or Pinesol and put it back on the grill. It was horrible.

  • xxxgracious

    ???

  • classycns

    Well I lived in the affluent part of North Phoenix for many years(15) and I always had pleasant experiences with the police. They were always polite and respectful to me. Yes I am a Black women but I'm also law abiding and dignified adult.

  • r r

    I feel you sis, its unnerving. These same holier than thou people will have a different tune if and when this comes knocking at their front door. This could be either of us, rich, poor, young, old. They don't give a damn, as long as our skin is black, we are targets. The late great Fannie Lou Hamer said don't go running and saying you not in this mess, because if you were born in America with a black face, you were born in the mess!

  • xxxgracious

    What the...where were you??!?!?! ???

  • r r

    Keep making it plain

  • r r

    You want a cookie

  • Li-Wright

    This from ABC News:

    When the officers arrived at the store to investigate, a clerk told them
    about an unrelated shoplifting incident that had just occurred and were
    directed to three adults and two young children getting into a car in
    the parking lot, Williams said.

    An officer ran out and tried to speak to the occupants of the car,
    yelling orders for the driver to stop, but the car kept going, Williams
    said.

    The driver stopped and let out a passenger, a woman who had warrants out for her arrest, the chief said. She was taken into custody.

  • WHYJESUSWHY

    OMG! YOU ARE ONE OF THOSE MINORITIES WHO CONTRARY TO POPULAR BELIEF TAKES RESPONSIBILITY FOR THEIR ACTIONS AND THINKS BEFORE DOING SOMETHING STUPID WHILE WITH YOUR CHILDREN AND USES BETTER JUDGEMENT DESPITE YOUR LIFE'S CIRCUMSTANCES? 'IN ALL CAPS'' lol, thank you for being a law abiding citizen and dignified adult. We seem to be in the minority these days.

  • The Art

    In today's society, most black people who've been victims of a crime - the crimes were committed by fellow blacks. But, that's not the issue here. We have a real problem with how we're perceived by society and law enforcement. Which is why people tend to overreact when we're involved - something that I agree is WRONG! But, stealing with your kid in tow does not help to go foil the society's bad perception of us.

  • Phil Mccrackenzme

    If a man takes his family out shoplifting, he does not care about them. HE put his family at risk. This probably wasn't the first time. Was it worthy of possible death? NO! But unless you're living under a rock, you know the mentality of the police is to shoot first assess later. Why endanger your family

  • WHYJESUSWHY

    and the plot thickens!

  • Reina1718

    White ppl jus steal from high end stores ?????

  • xxxgracious

    Wasn't trying to make it a competition. I was just stating my previous experience in retail. At the end of the day you have to keep your eye on EVERYONE. Never judge a book by its cover. Apparently some rich guy who owns a island got arrested for returing items at Walmart without the products inside the box. He said be did it because he was bored.

  • classycns

    May I encourage you to mentor your nephew. Even if it's just one weekend a month. Show him a different life path. Even if it's just shooting hoops and getting a burger. That way he can never say no one ever tried to help and train him on the right path. Please help him before things get worst. If you don't you will always wonder what if?

  • Topic Influencer

    Yes

  • Monica Lewinsky

    She had her kids in her lap. I could see if this was bank robbery, that would warrant the cops acting like out of control thugs.

  • Topic Influencer

    Not true. Dude on my news this morning is being looked for by SC police for shoplifting out of Walmart. He is white af

  • SaltineCrackers

    The police were never called on the Family. They were never called. The police also knew they were unarmed, according to them. They also did not know about the doll until AFTER they detained the Mother and Family.

  • r r

    No you didn't miss anything, go back to sleep

  • SaltineCrackers

    Wait. You saw the video and think that the only reason people are up in arms is because the cops are white? Jesus Christ.

  • https://www.instagram.com/nymagee/ Ny MaGee

    "any act of aggression by white officers towards Black people for any reason isn't justified."
    -------------------------------------------------------------
    Meanwhile, white folks and anti-black blacks believe white cops are justified in killing us (or threatening to kill us) for any reason they see fit. From selling loosies, to playing with toy guns, to stealing a $1 doll.

  • hottlanta

    Some white guy got caught last month n his azz own an island n he wasnt treated like that. U aint heard nothing else about it either.

  • abby500

    If black folks, actually all folks would just stop doing things wrong, incidents like this will occur less.

  • Topic Influencer

    I was like who in the hell upvoted this shit. Then I looked and saw you upvoted you. Have a blessed day "black women".

  • Yup, I said it

    It makes it so hard to defend real acts of police brutality against innocent people when mess like this keeps happening. Damn.

  • Topic Influencer

    Your original intent was clear. You started with black folks and that is what you meant.

  • morenYAHdelsur

    SM is the opinion of the masses. Whether journalists or not. When will real journalism be a thing again? Actual news outlets are so fast to jump on a story (so as to not be left out) that they’re giving mixed and construed information.

  • morenYAHdelsur

    Which isn’t likely. We’ve been trying to get back to that since the garden of Eden LOL.

    People are perfect. Groups of people aren’t perfect.

  • Phillybruh

    Why would he do that, he won't be able to say see I told you this would happen, a few years from now.

  • Coffee1st

    Soooo, why did the cops even confront them?

  • hottlanta

    Tell that to the black guy l saw on 60 minutes years ago who thought he wore the right clothes went to the right schools lived in the right neighborhood spoke the right english had the right job. I would never forget he was in the store shopping with his son. Police approached him accused him of stealing. Handcupped him too him to the back searched him couldnt find anything ..told him 2 pull down his pants. He said no. Cop said l will put u in jail. That man tears broke me when he said he had to strip in front of his son. He thought he did all the right things just like you.

  • Yup, I said it

    Jay-Z is always offering to help with this type of nonesense. Wish he would help graduates pay off student loans like Robert Smith, or contribute to youth STEM summer camps and after school programs. He only helps the people he can related to I guess. All the help for Black youth is focused towards delinquents and single mothers. If you are trying to do something productive, youre just shit out of luck. I guess the young black person with no criminal record and no kids is the unicorn or anomaly. What he will pay for their legal fees will probably pay off about 100 people student loan balance.

  • Michelle

    Jay Z needs to withdraw his offer to pay for counsel. The parents are trash and they taught that child how to steal.

  • Coffee1st

    The fuqq is a hoodbooger? Yo silly ass up here using bywords on your own people.... when, unbeknownst to yo black ass, whites & everybody else don't feel that much differently about YOU - simply for the color of your skin.
    US aren't the only ones who commit crimes. White folks out here cuttin DEE FK UP...but more times than not the cops and/or the media quietly deals with it or ignores it all together.

  • Topic Influencer

    I had to block Art

  • Coffee1st

    I see you got time today!
    ___________________
    ...... like she put in that OT & finished everything LAST week!!!!
    I'm here for it though....???

  • EasyBreezy

    Good move!

  • Karen Brady

    !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! That was my first and only question.

  • 11pink123

    The black ppl out there are the same. They all are very political and been waiting for some shyt to come they way just so they can show y’all how Aryanzona they are, Jay Z cannot help them.

    They got a gun pulled out on they own daughter, if they cared about they child well being, they would not have even been stealing with her here.

    They was wrong, they got caught, shyt got out of hand because they would not listen. Let it go, nobody died, nobody went to jail and they wasn’t innocent.

  • SingleGalCrazyWorld

    I agree...it was excessive but we have to hold accountability for the action itself..we hold everyone else accountable and to just for people to wipe their hands and say oh they black so we gotta support them foh...I have a real friend who died by the hands of the police last year in my city not for stealing socks like an idiot but for literally being at a stop sign with tinted windows...I dont have any sympathy for fools...

  • 11pink123

    It’s certain stuff you don’t do with your chid around.

    If they cared about they daughter, they would not be stealing in front of her. These ppl are pathetic. They not getting my energy.

  • Mr.LeBrickJames

    I appreciate the suggestion but he lives out of state, so I only get to see him once a year when we go visit family. My wife and I try to have positive, motivational conversations with him when we can, and he seems to appreciate it... but it's hard to offset the negative impact of having an absent father and a trifling mother.

  • 11pink123

    He like to keep chaos going.... at some point y’all gone realize he works for satan. I’m just not sure how long it will take y’all to realize that.

  • Yup, I said it

    Thats what I'm saying. We support the most ridiculous stuff and cant understand why no one tries to do better. Its more profitable to do the wrong thing. Now they suing the police dept for 10 million. If they are low down theiving hood rats I doubt that's the first or last time a gun has been pulled on them. I can't stand a damn thief.

  • RealATLPeach36

    Girl I stop there...I couldn’t shit hurt my soul. Once I became a woman about 8 years ago I stop judging I start looking at shit differently. I don’t look down on NO MAN/WOMAN ANYONE unless I’m looking down to give them my hand. I don’t expect a bytch ass thing back either. It’s from the heart.

  • Karen Brady

    I worked at BR years ago and caught a lily-white couple fukking in a fitting room on a very busy Saturday. I kindly told them to take that fukkery out of the store. Score one for the black folk!

  • Nik

    If you don't want a run in with the cops, don't increase your chances by breaking the law.

  • RealATLPeach36

    Li-Wright please excuse me I’m not normally rude...but...FCK your rewind. You feel wtf you feel, I’m passionate about wtf I feel. Never even seen your name before on here.

    Don’t @ me... keep that shyt.

    I’m sorry but that’s how I feel right now.

    FYI: if this was you...I’ll go just ass hard saying that’s FCK up! People fall on bad times man I don’t know why they stole that shyt, but the way it was handled was DEAD ASS WRONG!

  • Karen Brady

    Bush's are bomb.. especially with a little doctoring :-)

  • SaltineCrackers

    LOL! Listen I'm sorry to break it to you, but who we are and what we do literally has nothing to do with how white people view us. Let me take you back to the beginning...

    In the early 1700's when the Dutch and English were trying to figure out where they could get cheap reliable labor from, they created the Science of Racism to justify going to the continent of Africa. The dehuminisation of the Negro happened long before we got here, while we were still minding our own business and bothering no one. (The Notes on Virgina is a good read dealing with the above mentioned)

    Do you understand? The devaluation of the Negro is Bible to them and nothing will change that, not our achievements, not our successful black communities that were destroyed because of Whyte jealousy., not the fact that even when blks were a majority during slavery we didn't wipe them all out. Literally nothing. The sooner you accept that the sooner you'll be free of that wasteful expectation.

  • Yup, I said it

    He doing this stuff for shine. He attaches himself to the most sensatiinalized stories where he can get his name in the press. Why aint he working to free prisoners like Kim K. ( I don't like her either) He doesnt help because these prisoners arent hi profile and his name wont be in the news.

  • SaltineCrackers

    Not. A. One!

  • Coffee1st

    What these "WhatsdamatterbossWEsick?" negroes don't understand is, to defend racist actions against one black person is to essentially give them license to mistreat all black people.
    It doesn't matter what we do or don't do, the melanin is the crime. These things will keep happening until each n every Black eye is opened.... then, we have to make a choice.

  • millz
  • Branch Davidian

    I am gonna start a Go Fund Me to send these idiots to Criminal School. Who TF steals from the Dollar Store???

  • We Can Do This

    This situation could've ended horribly if that store was owned by Asians. They take matters into their own hands without repercussions.

  • Rhyme and Reason

    There are double standards! We are not considered “HUMANS”...NOR AMERICANS!

    You can watch Shows like “Cops” and others police reality shows to see whites commits crimes, run from the police, and even mass shooters are taken alive, if at all possible!

    Shoplifters are breaking the law, and the police should be called!

    But, I seriously doubt, they would have responded in this manner toward “human beings” doing the same exact thing!

  • Mr.LeBrickJames

    LOL That's funny. If you're going to go to jail, don't go to jail over a pack of drawers. smh

  • SaltineCrackers

    Every time.

    True story. I remember I walked into a grocery store once by myself and as soon as I got to the first isle a security guard started following me. While the dummy was following me, the group of 4 whyte college kids that came in after me were stealing stuff from every isle I saw them in. Stuff in the pant pockets, back packs and somehow the security guard never saw anything. They came in after me, left before me, and never went to the register. They left with at least a meal worth of ingredients.

  • Reina1718

    ????

  • SaltineCrackers

    LOL!!

  • 11pink123

    Yeah I been realized he was a groupie. He go after every hi profile athlete, every artist and no where political stuff. You are right what he’s doing is not genuine.

  • WhoKnew

    Chile we left and went to Subway. Just hungry as a mug when we left.

  • Kbellaluvvs

    Now I know folks were up in arms about them mentioning Jefree Starr but I didn’t know that the company is suing Aunt Jackie and friends....Chile

  • Nik

    Nothing in that store is worth that type of police response. And I mean nothing.

  • Coffee1st

    I'm not rooting for anybody.
    This is about a group of people who wield a great amount of power.... up to the point of being able to take a Life with Support of the law and the courts by default. This is about that same group of powerful people, who overall, does what is right in their own eyes, uses force based on emotions and personal prejudices, with very little accountability.
    I promise that these rogue police officers would be much more a danger to any black person than Mr. Ames could ever be.
    And therein lies the problem.

  • SaltineCrackers

    According to the department's initial statement it was because they thought they had stolen food and underwear, but according to the store's initial statement they told the police it was for unpaid toys. The store says that the doll was returned to the store.

  • Nik

    Right. Knowing the strained relationship between black and blue, I always expect ish to go left. Anybody without the complexion for protection who commits crimes needs to remember they may wind up at the morgue instead of the jail.

  • T Willis

    Or he could employee his people ... but it’s not my money to count, but you’re right, and I agree...

  • T Willis

    Exactly

  • SaltineCrackers

    Police should not be called for shoplifting because it's literally a waste of resources on both ends. For the few who shoplift most of the amounts are not significant enough to prosecute and store write off the losses anyway.

  • T Willis

    He wasn’t killed and they were taken into custody ALIVE. A black criminal was taken ALIVE. Let that part sink in.

  • T Willis

    Exactly.

  • Oretta Grace Smith

    Thank You!!! What Parents See their Child Stealing a toy, Damn near big as a microwave, and Allow it!!! The little girl knew, she stood their and waited for her parents, With the toy in her hands. Now, the effect of the cops were overly harsh. But the Cause were The Parents.

  • Nik

    Dayum...you have a point there.

  • T Willis

    They had just stole from family dollar and weren’t complying with the officers orders. The only excessive action would have been death, but they all lived and walked out of the situation alive. There was nothing excessive as the cops did not physically assault or kill any of them. This, despite the evidence of the couple (& their child) stealing on camera. Hello?!

  • BythegraceofGodIcanexplain

    Both of them were wrong. The family for stealing and the police force for handling that situation with forceful tactics. Two wrongs don't make a right. What's wrong is there no fear of G0d in any of them. I know it sounds cliche but none of this would of happenened . I'm not preaching any religion or supporting any whyte IDOL that they've instill on us since slavery. So let's get to the root of the problem"What material item is soooo important that you neglect your morality from need to want?" He could of borrowed money to get new underwear to find a job to buy his daughter a doll for her birthday. See the black decadent veil is to be unleash from a label of poor to rich. The illusion is real, the formality is that someone has to wash the toilets, take out the trash, wash dishes some where, not us. This family subconsciously feels that and made the wrong decisions. The uneducated has been targeted because they don't know the true crime of what is considered success, Narcissism.

  • Oretta Grace Smith

    It's better than being thrown to the ground.

  • Sid

    It’s a whole mess. Jackie and Alissa dissed them in a video. Homegirl is not having it. But she won’t win because it’s there opinion. And she has a lot of suing to do. Because black beauty influencers has been dragging her through the sewers for years

  • Oretta Grace Smith

    Yes the cop were too harsh, But the parents did Allow and Commit a crime.

  • Oretta Grace Smith

    It Shouldn't also lead to Stealing!!!

  • T Willis

    Thank you! With all the #BLM and other activists working to protect INNOCENT, law abiding citizens, the crooks and criminals seem to think they are beyond reproach and consequences. Having a gun being pulled on you, after robbing a Family Dollar store, is the least of any black persons worries. This man and his family could be dead had the police really been excessive. I just don’t understand why ppl can’t differentiate between protecting laws abiding black citizens, verses using force on black criminals who criminalize their own neighborhoods. What if this hadn’t been a family dollar but a black owned business employing black people? Would folks still view the police’s actions as excessive? Where do we draw the line? We can’t control the criminals, we can’t control the bastard breeders who create them, and now our own ppl don’t even want the police confronting them... ?????

  • NSYDEOUT

    What now? Googling this crap now.....smdh.

  • Nik

    They very well may have shot to kill. That is nothing new. All it takes is for one cop to think someone is reaching for something.

  • T Willis

    That’s not true. Black people steal a lot - but regardless, this isn’t a competition. A crime was still committed and the black folks involved need to pay their debt. The same way I expect lily yt Jane to pay hers. Period.

  • Jordan’s Memory

    I didn't see the video as I said before I'm tired of seeing stuff like this so my response was mainly a response from the right up.

  • Oretta Grace Smith

    I still Can't Believe I Saw a Child, stand there and Wait for Her Parents, with a box big enough for her to get in, to Comfortably walk Out the store stealing!!!

  • T Willis

    I’ve witnessed black people steal. My own cousin owned a tag remover and would boost sh^t from Macy’s. And I’ve personally been in a store where a black woman stole something and the manager ran after her. But again, this is getting besides the point and is deflective tactic. No one should be above reproach. I don’t care who is committing the thievery: Jamaal, Jesus, Jane, Bob idgaf... they need to be processed within the system. Stop justifying the bs from black ppl because yt folks are watching and waiting to use this very instance against us to prevent real change from occurring within the police department. They are criminals. Period.

  • YBooks

    Why are they having more kids when they can’t even afford underwear.

  • abby500

    My intent was what I said. I don’t need you to interpret my intent. I initially said blacks because this is where my heart lies. With my ppl.

  • Oretta Grace Smith

    I'm so Proud of today's Blacks, speaking out on what went Wrong First With the Parents, Not trying to cover it up, Beautiful.

  • T Willis

    That’s very true. But in this instance, the black ppl were criminals who got caught stealing, and the police used an appropriate amount of force. Ultimately, this isn’t a situation that warrants national or even blog coverage. Just two bubbling idiots who are using a very serious problem to hustle a police department out of millions.

  • r r

    Yall the same saints who would hold down the woman while the rapist is raping her. Same ones Harriet would have shot for trying to go back to the Big house, too scared to run for freedom.

  • T Willis

    Black ppl have blinders when it comes to acknowledging the criminals that frequent our neighborhoods. And I love how they say: you must work in a black area. ? Well, yeah, because in predominately black areas black criminals are the majority... hello?!

  • Trace da Ace

    exactly!!

  • Trace da Ace

    well if they would not have STOLEN items from the store = illegal....then none of the aftermath would have happen....PERIOD!

  • MSGREENMINUSTHEENVY

    Although the law isn't what it should be, stealing is one of those that we all know not to do regardless of the reason.
    Please be advised, you're a parent, you put your child in harms way. I think the situation was handled wrong and I don't advocate for that poor baby being scared to death but in this situation own up to your bad behavior and stop all this mess now. Learn to do differently moving forward.

  • Ice

    The kind of violence force displayed by the cops was in complete and utter disproportion to the shoplifting accusation. And, that is the issue at stake.
    Not the fact that the man allegedly stole underwear, or that a four year old child picked up a $1 doll, or that they are poor black and have too many children.
    The cops are paid by tax payers to be professional peace officers, not violent out of control buffoons.
    There will always be people who commit crimes. Shoplifting is considered a petty crime, and certainly doesn’t warrant the kind of response from professional paid by taxpayers to keep the peace.

  • T Willis

    Whoa, whoa, whoa! Lol you are conflating two entirely different scenarios. In one serious scenario, respectability politics are used to justify the killing and murdering of our people. In this current scenario, we have a family of criminals stealing from a local business. During their getaway, they were confronted by the police and walked away alive. How are the two similar? A crime was committed, which can warrant an excessive force situation with police. In other tragic scenarios, black boys are ACCUSED of crimes, handcuffed, and shot multiple times in the chest. That’s an excessive force scenario. That is a national headline story that requires media and black activists. A black boy being lynched in NC, but being covered up under the guise of “suicide”, is a scenario worthy of outcry and outrage. Do you really not understand the difference? In all the other #BLM stories, the blacks were innocently living their productive lives when they unjustly pulled over and/or killed. These two idiots steal $15 worth of items, ON FREAKING CAMERA, get confronted with their crime and refuse to initially comply, and somehow all the above scenarios are the same and folks like me, who don’t agree with you, are a problem and should be blocked? Omg smdh

  • SaltineCrackers

    You know Sandy writes things in a way to work people up so we will comment as much as we do. Always read the news reports of the stories she posts. In any case if you haven't seen the video there will be no other way for you to truly understand the outrage. The video was released before the was a story.

    The police's claim of justification for their extreme actions doesn't not match up with the pettiness of the alledged crime they were never arrested or charged with.

  • T Willis

    Thank you ??

  • r r

    Some of these people are self righteous. They think because they haven't made a mistake in their lives, that everyone should and will be like them. People make stupid mistakes everyday, that's life. A stupid mistake shouldn't garner this type of treatment. But again it does not matter, as long as our skin is black, they don't discriminate on how well you live, dress, act. They coming for you, these holier than thou people have been blessed not to have encountered any of this, criminal or otherwise. But let them live long enough, the same thing make you laugh make you cry.

  • Logan Roberts

    We already know pigs are gonna be pigs. But it's a shame the parents put these kids in harm's way. And do not reward them with any lawsuit money either.

  • Karen Brady

    LOL

  • Knocked Kneed and Pigeon Toed

    Stealing from the Dollar Tree! I have no words America. Even if the parents are thieves you should be teaching your kids the ladder. They should never witness that type of behavior. Do as I say not as I do. SMH!!!

  • T Willis

    Thank you for the history lesson, I’m aware. Now, moving in 2020, we have to coexist with whitey which means that both *we* & whitey need to hold our own accountable when they commit criminal acts. Right now we are on the precipice of a heated racial and civil war. Clear heads must prevail if we - black ppl - are to survive. Because as much as you, me, and whoever hate yt ppl and their hypocrisy, if a racial war ever broke out, black ppl would be exterminated. Trust. We have to look at the bigger picture and stop focusing on the trivial. A crime was committed and the criminals walked away alive.

  • deadellamore

    Taking ANYTHING from the Dollar Store does not warrant pulling a gun on children!

  • T Willis

    You’re right, I’m self-righteous because I don’t have a criminal record and my parents had the foresight to raise me as a productive law abiding citizen. If another black law abiding citizen is ever gunned down, or dies under suspicious circumstances that involve even (1) yt person, you can best believe I will be one of the first people on the front line. You can trust that.

  • r r

    WE don't lose credibility, so you can stop saying that, if that was the case the whole Justice System credibility is null and void due to the countless cases they have fumbled. We are staying the course. My thing is, if you aren't going to help the cause, get out the way. People are human and crime is not going to be eradicated, not in any race. Policing is going to continue, our mission is to hold these dirty cops accountable, that's the mission. So please if you're not going to help, don't hurt.

  • MsSapphire9800

    Did the police ever handle what they were called to the location for...because this was unrelated and when did the police start chasing shoplifters. The guy said he didn't stop until he got to a safe place. Just image if he had stop on the roadside and no one was recording.

  • Curtis

    I know this guy who used to work at a dollar store in hood and he says shoplifting is an everyday ritual. Black kids, men and women were doing it.They didn't even try to confront them because of retaliation. They think they are entitled to stuff as you can see from this couple. They minimize theft and lose of revenue to business owners. Support of black criminals when caught doesn't bond well with me. Why do we rally around criminals?

  • SaltineCrackers

    I just don't understand it. We have enough recorded history that shows us it doesn't matter what kind of lives we live and some black people refuse to get it. Like the guys who was killed in his own damn apartment by that white female officer in Dallas?! What better way should he have lived his life so that he could've lived that day?

  • Curtis

    Oh ok. That's not somebody's business who is losing revenue?

  • AndSo

    ^THIS IS THE QUESTION OF THE DAY. Quit having kids you cannot afford or care to raise properly.

  • T Willis

    Do you own a business? Do you have any idea what excessive stealing does to neighborhood businesses? Do you know why black neighborhoods only have corner & liquor stores? Excessive thievery. Just like you stated, it’s a waste of resources to go into black neighborhoods because the majority of the community robs from them. This is a problem and this story sheds light on exactly why it will continue to be a recurring problem.

  • T Willis

    What are you talking about lol. Harriet Tubman was over a 100 years ago. They are two idiot black criminals. Y’all gave Jussie more grief over his alleged false report.

  • r r

    This IS a real act of police brutality, thank God it didn't end with someone's life. Had one of these people been shot over a stupid doll and underwear, the narrative by people with your mindset would have been different. How soon we forget, Eric Garner was allegedly selling loosey cigarettes, which is a crime, a petty crime. $1 cigarettes that turned into that man being murdered by power hungry hate-filled racist police. There is a very thin line.

  • Yup, I said it

    My only issue with Jay-Z and how he spends his money is that he does charitable acts for clout but the stuff he supports is the most controversial not beneficial to the black community. If he wants to buy twerk mom a outfit that's his business but don't announce it like its something to celebrate.

  • Katherine

    Can't be certain that he stole anything based on that brief footage. He definitely removed something from the shelf but how do we know whether or not he later paid for the item or sat it down elsewhere in the store before leaving?

  • TransMichelle

    You can look at our neighborhoods and see why black folks are perceived a certain way. You can't walk through a black neighborhood at night..hell even during the daytime. Try it in Baltimore, Newark,or St.Louis.. Our issues won't be solved until black folks take responsibility for their actions TODAY and not blame it on what happened 50 to 60 years ago.

  • Desi

    I hate to play devil's advocate, but if they weren't stealing this would have never happened. Now they want 10 mil and they was wrong in the first place!?! IJS.

  • Katherine

    Trump is trailing Biden and to a slightly lesser degree Sanders, BUT the lead for the others is within the margin of error. We shouldn't risk nominating anyone other than the candidate who can hold the largest lead against Trump. Don't want to take any risk on 4 more years of Trump. We need to go with the one who has the best possible chance of beating him, which is Biden at the moment.

  • r r

    You're speaking of Bothem Jean. I'm here in Dallas and when I tell you this makes my blood literally boil. The fact that some of our people think that being law abiding keeps them safe from this hate is mind-boggling. Not only are we not safe in the streets, we aren't safe in the perceived comfort of our own home. Speaking of being in our own home, just like the police busted into that woman's home in Iowa! Why, because they don't value us as a people and felt well within their right to barge into her home. It's a system, an institution, it has nothing to do with being law abiding and the sooner we can unify around that notion the more progress we will make.

  • T Willis

    Point out what I said that could hurt the progression of black people. Was it the part where I stressed accountability? Was it the part where I stated that we shouldn’t defend criminals? Was it the part where I said black people should consider the bigger picture because we’re not given the same courtesy and opportunities to defend ourselves on a national platform? What part could be misconstrued as “hurtful” to the movement? But let me tell you what is hurtful to the movement: excusing or justifying the criminals in our neighborhoods. Trying to paint police officers as excessively forceful when 1) the black ppl in question had committed a crime on camera 2) the police only drew their weapon when said criminal wouldn’t comply. These actions are hurtful and hindering our progression. You’re welcome.

  • http://batman-news.com Roderick2011

    Yes. The it's really the bus drivers fault.
    After he found the money he went to the principle and reviewed the video tape and found out it was a black kid.
    If it had been a white kid they would have had a good laugh and called it a day.

  • Katherine

    Hillary's lead over Trump was slowly diminishing right after the announcement about her emails weeks before the election. By election day the polls were within the margin of error so anyone who continuously monitored the polls knew that it could go either way. An average of all of the polls together (on RCP) can be trusted but it only means that's what would happen if the election took place during the days of the polling. You have to keep checking them due to the fact that certain factors can cause people to change their minds.

  • T Willis

    Lol you asked my suggestion...
    no, I don’t think they should get preferential treatment, but this story has attracted national coverage, so that automatically places them ahead of most... ?????

  • r r

    I'm talking about history. I'm talking about a mentality that some people have of an illusion of freedom that does not exist. And I didn't Jussie any grief.

  • T Willis

    Rob, steal, thievery ????? lol it’s all the same... they took something that they knew didn’t belong to them, did on video, and had to deal with the consequences of those actions.

  • brooks hill

    the parents put themselves in this drama. stealing is wrong. don`t teach your kids to steal. hood mentality is being passed down to their children. stop having kids when you can`t afford them, daddy and mommy are hoodrats.

  • Coffee1st

    Perfectly stated.
    Perfectly true.

  • Katherine

    The above footage is inconclusive. It shows him removing something from the shelf but how do we know whether or not he paid for or left the item elsewhere in the store before leaving?

  • Coffee1st

    Was Ames ever charged for stealing anything?

  • Katherine

    Am I the only person who feels that the footage is inconclusive? It shows him removing something from the shelf but how do we know whether or not he paid for the item or left it in the store before leaving?

  • SugarFoot a.k.a Ty

    Police followed the family to their apartment complex and drew down on them, thinking they were armed.
    ____________
    This is where the phuckery starts and how so many people end up getting shot (by accident of course). I don't care if they left the store with the "entire" aisle 2 , they (police) knew kids were in the car and they had no right to make that "assumption." This "assumption" could've easily ended with the police fearing for their lives "again" without a weapon present or while someone was walking/running away and getting killed over a petty theft.

  • Coffee1st

    You should have provided a link to a Merriam Websters.
    We're dealing with a special kind here.

  • Katherine

    The ju video just shows him removing something from the shelf. We don't know whether or not he paid for the item or left it in the store before leaving.

  • chan chan

    Statistics show that the number 1 shoplifter is middle aged white women. I never seen all of this done to them. I wish we can keep the same energy for other folks. We always have an excuse why something happen bad to black ppl but we never keep that same energy for illegal immigrants or for white people.

  • Coffee1st

    Remember, those "hoodrats" LOOK LIKE YOU AND MANY PPL THAT YOU LOVE.

  • Desi

    I guess. But how come no one has confirmed that with the sales associates. The reaction from the police was unacceptable though.

  • SaltineCrackers

    T,

    I don't know what you are, but it sounds like you're reading from the 1985 book of the depressed black like or black rural life, I don't know, but in 2019 there's a lot more going on in most black neighborhoods that just liquor and corner stores.

    Theft is NOT the reason why a lower income black community would have lower poll of store options to choose from.

    And like I stated before in most major cities most stores and Police departments don't bother with petty shoplifting because it goes no where if the value of the items are too low. In a store like Family Dollar which is not a Mom and Pop, it gets written off just like every other chain store.

  • Coffee1st

    This happened to me once. Picked up something, realized I left card in car, put down and proceeded to retrieve card. On my way out the door. The man at counter thought I still had it on me and promptly accused me of stealing. I led him to where I placed items down and promptly cussed him out. I shouldn't have cursed him but he caught me at a bad time.
    I can name a time or two more where I was accused or the accusation implied. Nothing was ever found....CUZ I PAYS FOR MY CHYT.

  • Katherine

    How many times have you removed something off of a shelf at a store, changed your mind, and then left the item out of place in a different part of the store such as in a basket or on a counter? The sales associates would not be able to confirm whether he abandoned the item somewhere in the store when so many people leave things all over the store.

  • SugarFoot a.k.a Ty

    because criminals have rights just like the next person. Stealing doesn't justify having a gun pointed in your face especially if you're not a threat and we already know how trigger happy they are. Apprehend them and keep it moving. Why couldn't the officer arrest a pregnant lady without a gun? There was no need for guns to be drawn if there wasn't a gun present but u know that "assumption" justifies everything chile

  • SaltineCrackers

    No! According to some of the first reports they were only following them in the first place because of the lady in the brown who is, I believe, Is the Aunt of the Woman. She was dropped off before they got to the babysitter's house, which were the video was recorded.

    According to the Police they found out about the underwear from Ames.

  • not impressed

    Fake news. There was nothing in his hands when he left the store.

  • Coffee1st

    You guess?????
    Sounds like NOTHING has been confirmed 'cept a doll was taken and the cops terrorized this family. Don't y'all understand that these folks will grab a narrative straight outta they @$$ in order to justify their hate.
    Gawd!!!! Negroes are still silly, gullible, self hating and suffering from grave Stockholms Syndrome. This country's track record should provoke us to stay in neutral, as it relates to black folk committing crimes, until irrefutable evidence is presented.
    Can you say, Central Park 5?

  • wigmon68

    first, I don't know that we know exactly what police knew at this point. some are basing opinions off of snippets of amateur video that doesn't capture the entire series of events.

    second, It is possible police could be drawing weapons AND trying to protect the kids.

    Its entirely reasonable to believe that the actions of the police were excessive, but before accepting that as the only conclusion, I think its always prudent to let the investigation conclude and see all the evidence.

  • SingleGalCrazyWorld

    And since the history of time...since our ancestors were forcibly taken from their homes in Africa and brought here to appease the whites that has been happening...I think what WE need to realize is that the program has been the same the only thing thats changed is time and how they "lock us up" instead of lynching us...this country was founded on "THEIR system" and the only way to over throw that is to physically do it.....so when the race riot starts (the real one with REAL leaders not just commentators) let me know and Ill have my bag of nickels ready...

  • Curtis

    It inside his pants between the legs. You need glasses.

  • r r

    Let's be clear for the crowd, no thanks to you was ever offered on my part. We are dealing with two factions. You choose to focus on these people committing a crime. I mean, in the grand scheme of things, especially this case, its meaningless now because no charges have been filed. You all keep pointing out that fact but in actuality no charges have even been filed against any member of this family. So your continued flawed argument is problematic. But the big picture, the forest if you will, is that you are perpetuating a narrative of justification for law enforcement to continuously exact deadly force on a group of people simply for existing. That is the part that's hurtful to our progression because the institution will trot someone like you out to put a black face on why they do what they do, to justify their actions; and what that does is provide comfort for the white people who are watching and judging. And the cycle continues. You seem to be fairly intelligent and so I refuse to believe that you can't grasp this concept. So you are just willing to throw away this family because they stole something. Because of some replaceable material things. Come on now, we have to have more value our people. Yes they may have done things differently than what you would have, they don't deserve to be thrown away.

  • SugarFoot a.k.a Ty

    first, I don't know that we know exactly what police knew at this point. some are basing opinions off of snippets of amateur video that doesn't capture the entire series of events.
    ________
    Humor me, why would they think they were armed if no one mentioned a gun? Black maybe? yeah we know how the investigations turn out because they're usually investigated by themselves.

  • Curtis

    Some of you have never been victims of crime and its just easy to say criminal rights. When these thugs will violate you ( I hope it never happens) and your property which you have worked hard for, you will sing a different song. I'm a victim of crime committed by black thugs.

  • BEANTOWN BULLI

    I thought they wasnt supposed to follow people out store, but stop them in facility??!! After they hit them doors and made it home its fare game???

  • not impressed

    That's his anatomy, Mr. X-rayVision.

  • wigmon68

    the store employees are the ones who identified the individuals involved. at that point, it is the responsibility of the officers to make an arrest. The arrest report says they approached the car (no weapons drawn). The driver began to get out and was arguing against the officers commands. The officer said the driver reached toward the center console which is when he drew his weapon and yelled out orders to stop and put his hands up and on the steering wheel which the driver complied.

    The woman in the back seat would not show her hands and was yelling refusal at the officers.

    as in any case, I don't suggest that we shouldn't have an opinion, but to remain open minded until an investigation is complete and all the information is known.

  • Cricket404

    Are guns illegal in Phoenix?

  • Karen Brady

    Okay. I just chuckled at the exchange between the two of ya'll. Ya'll be kind to one another and have a good day. ..lol

  • Passion

    There’s always more to every story, who steals underwear from the dollar store?!

  • The Art

    A hood booger is the likes of anyone who brings their child along to commit a crime, especially a BLACK parent who knows the type of society we live in and what the risks are. Just because racist whites may be prejudiced against me simply for the color of my skin does not negate the fact that black people have to raise their standards and do better. It's easy to get enraged about what the cops did. But where's the rage for these people who are raising the next generation? The stupidity starts at home and is bred.

  • Karen Brady

    Someone who doesn't have a dollar but needs some drawers right quick! *shrugs*

  • Katherine

    I agree on the open minded part. Arrest reports are just the officer's version of the facts which may or may not be accurate.

  • Passion

    They won’t get a dime, $10mil is laughable!

  • PLEASEDontTellMe

    INDEED I understand the difference well. I don't feel the energy of my statement is conflating the two at all. In fact you're doing exactly what the point of my post is attempting to convey....WHY: must those of us, who are asking "why is excessive force necessary" continuously explain that we are not in favor of unlawful acts, not being met with appropriate repercussions just because the perp is a POC? We are not re-writing the law for reparations for 100+ years of slavery. I am well aware of the tragedy my community is faced with on the daily....as a woman of color and a mother of black children. As a result, we can not afford to not speak up in ALL matters of EXCESSIVE Force... ......THANKFULLY, this family "walked away ALIVE"...THIS TIME.

  • http://welfareinfo.org angrysolo

    not the first nor last time
    even the baby knew it to be commonplace in the family.

  • Passion

    People be stealing pregnancy test at the dollar store in my area, if you buy anything in a box you better make sure it contains whatever supposed to be in there!

  • Yardgirl

    I don’t judge either! Bless up!

  • Yardgirl

    I get that as I was raised military with a loud mouth drill sergeant. However the woman was pregnant with a young child ????? Just saying.?????

  • Passion

    And I’m sure it wasn’t their first time stealing, if you steal underwear you can’t get any lower than that!

  • r r

    That police report is not worth the paper its written on in most cases. These people have scripts they must and willingly abide by. Police are people and bleed red blood just like the rest of us. They're word is not golden and people need to stop believing everything that these un-worthy officers say.

  • Passion

    And other rich people with their Pyramid scams, insurance scams, investment scams and Go fund me scams! American Greed

  • SugarFoot a.k.a Ty

    ....and some of us have. I was born and raised on the westside of Chicago hun, there isn't much that I haven't seen in my short time span. I still refuse to turn a blind eye to whats right. Does shoplifting make them less of a citizen than you and I? Did they lose those rights because they were shoplifting? There is a diplomatic approach that should be taken to prevent people (especially kids) from being killed because they (police) feel threatened by situations that they usually create. There was no need to approach them with guns drawn ready to shoot. Luckily this ending wasn't as tragic as the others.

  • Passion

    Let me guess, she had warrants for stealing!

  • Passion

    If he was gotta steal something it should have been condoms!

  • Passion

    He must have thrown out his last skid-mark draws!

  • SugarFoot a.k.a Ty

    Gawd!!!! Negroes are still silly, gullible, self hating and suffering from grave Stockholms Syndrome.
    ___________
    Its really baffling and disturbing. It scares me to think ahead 5-10 years from now :(

  • Renee26

    Right... Disgusting

  • Renee26

    Me too!!

  • the guest

    There is absolutely no need for shoplifting and indoctrinating children into shoplifting in my opinion is a whole other crime. Poor black folks need to be less prideful and smarter about struggling circumstances. There are food banks, clothing banks, free toy give aways all over the country.

    They had no business STEALING underwear and teaching the baby to STEAL a $1 doll. Nevertheless, the police had no business responding with EXCESSIVE FORCE and BRUTALITY.

    The parents should have been arrested, just arrested, without all the police officer histrionics, theatrics, and melodrama that literally handed the petty thieves a multi-million dollar settlement.

  • Reina1718

    Yessss!! Im so tired of those go fund me accts!

  • Xistt

    If anyone that I knew said "Hey man, can you loan me $5 for underwear, I really need it" I would say "Shut up and take my money."
    Boom. No criminal record.

  • Xistt

    "In Arizona, a person over age 21 may legally carry a concealed firearm or deadly weapon without a permit within the state, except for certain prohibited locations, and must disclose the fact to a law enforcement officer if questioned."--Google

  • Xistt

    You don't know me! You don't... how does this go?

  • Xistt

    I do not know about the police, but when I was in Afghanistan, I suspected everyone of being armed until I confirmed they were not.

  • Xistt

    I agree with most of this, but the name calling is unnecessary.

  • Xistt

    I do not open packages until I buy them.

  • SugarFoot a.k.a Ty

    third world country luv they probably were armed and you were considered an enemy by the citizens so you were well within your right

  • Xistt

    This was Family Dollar, the underwear and doll may have been $10 each, but they may have been $10. I stopped at an actual dollar store that had a security guard posted at the door. Theft must have been worse than at this Family Dollar.

  • Xistt

    When did they pull guns on children? They pulled guns on the adults that refused to comply.

  • classycns

    No, just sharing my pleasant experience. I am well aware that horrible things are done to Black people because of racism. These lowlifes are one the reason why law abiding do get racially profiles. From the video it looked like one of the employees(that might have called the police) might be a Black woman. Was she wrong if she did call the police. Btw, racists and dishonorable Black people is one off the reasons I'm afraid to leave the house outside of work of course.

  • Xistt

    *Family Dollar

  • the guest

    Maybe not.

    Black people are not monolith and look many ways and there are class and cultural distinctions that differentiate black people from each other.

    It's not fair to align, relate, and associate all black people with the $1 store underwear stealing ilk of African descent.

  • Xistt

    Follow directions and don't resist arrest.

  • the guest

    They will get a settlement. Because the shoplifting is moot point to their lawsuit as the police brutality was after the fact, not at the scene of the shoplifting, at their home, and they were unarmed and posed no threat.

    The police handed them a lawsuit and settlement.

  • classycns

    Do you have the name od the man. I would like to research for my own records. Was he arrested? and did he sue?

  • Xistt

    Source? This says that middle-aged men steal the most: https://phys.org/news/2005-08-shoplifters-readily-behavior.html

  • Xistt

    Follow directions.

  • r r

    You have been fortunate to have pleasant experiences. Your pleasant experiences are in no way productive to this conversation. You shouldn't be afraid to leave your home. But please understand that this situation and situations like these are more complex and much bigger than you being a law abiding black citizen living in an affluent neighborhood being treated decent by the local police force. Much deeper.

  • Xistt
  • r r

    That's the problem with police in America. They think they are in a war zone and are acting as such. This is not a war zone! Go back to the military if you want to be at war.

  • r r

    This went way over your head. This conversation may not be for you. Coffee1st is saying their skin color is the same, which means the cultural distinctions and so on and so forth means nothing if they are focused on your black skin.

  • Katherine

    I didn't see him open a package on the video. Either way, opening a package is not stealing. Taking something out of the store without paying for it is stealing.

  • Nicole Myles

    I could see if they committed ARMED robbery then yes they would most definitely deserve all of what the police did to them but for petty theft naw this was too excessive & abuse of power

  • r r

    In the video you can hear the woman tell the officer/s, please don't point the gun at her babies.

  • Nicole Myles

    From my understanding she was holding one of her kid's in her arms because he couldn't walk & the ground was hot. So the gun was on the adults & kid's

  • Nik

    Unfortunately assailant compliance doesn't always result in officers following the rules themselves.

  • imright

    where did i say that....????????

  • A J
  • andrice

    Threatening to kill somebody over drawls and a doll is unacceptable.
    It's the way in which the stop was handled that is at issue...

  • A J

    Criminal Logic!

  • chris

    They think we all armed criminals

  • http://sandrarose.com SandraRose

    The woman was wrong for taking her children to commit a crime.

  • Xistt

    We followed the rules of engagement.

  • hottlanta

    When he took off his clothes n didnt have what the store said he stole they let him go. He had been shopping at the store for years n they knew his family n the store didnt vouch for him or nothing. His behind has been saying good morning bob for years. I didnt remember his name but l remember his story. He thought he was the comfort zone non threatening negro like u who did all the "right" things n he still got his nword wake up call. I wouldnt brag too long n too hard about being that negro u r next. Your number will come up sooner or later.

  • Candance

    Wow... what if one of those untrained police would have fired... over some undies and a dollar doll! WOW! I guess they said wrong is wrong! Shame!!!! Times are so hard that people are stealing undies this government needs to help people live better and not have them decide if they need food underwear or medicine. Housing and Food prices need to be regulated its getting out of hand and people are being too greedy!

  • Xistt

    Who says they were ever in the military? Nobody joins the armed services because they want to be at war. According to the Officer Down Memorial Page, twenty-six officers have been shot and killed so far this year. If they are not at war, what are they?

  • Xistt

    Dravon threw them out the window.

  • Xistt

    That does not mean any officer pointed a gun at the children.
    Why wasn't the baby in a car seat?

  • r r

    I said they were in the military. I said it, because that's how they are treating citizens. The officers that were shot in the line of duty were doing their jobs, however their jobs are not to be at war with the citizens of the country. The streets of America is not a damn war zone. Yes there is crime and yes people commit murder. But Americans do not wake up to go to war in the streets like this is Vietnam. I don't care how you slice it. And you sound like you are in war mentality right now. If these cops are so-called afraid for their lives anytime someone moves an inch they need to turn in the badge and take off the uniform. They aren't built to serve and protect.

  • Renee26

    Yup... The spokespersons were even speaking the Us vs. Them language... But ignore their own stereotype biases and racial profiling.

  • Yardgirl

    OK Miss Sandra

  • Ms Thang

    My cousin allows her grandkids to steal out of the store. I let the little boy go to the grocery store with me and we got to check out and he tried to hide a carton of the goldfish snacks under his shirt. They can’t go anywhere with me. I don’t even allow them at my house.

  • Xistt

    Move an inch? No. Moving the wrong way after fleeing the scene? Yes.

  • Truth Or Die

    Since this is being PURPOSELY omitted from the various liberal media outlets here is an important statement from the police fact sheet:

    "As the officer approached the vehicle, he observed female #1 drop an item before getting in the car, then the vehicle quickly reversed and drove away.

    -Moments later the vehicle stopped at McDowell Road, female #1 exited the vehicle and the car again drove away. The officer learned the female had three misdemeanor warrants for her arrest and was booked for the outstanding warrants."

    Its one thing to shoplift but its a next when you decide to peel off when being approached by the police because then you raise their suspicion beyond just petty shoplifting especially when they run your info and see you have multiple open warrants for your arrest it explains why the police rolled so hard on them (which I still believe was excessive).

    This continuous agenda of NO SELF-ACCOUNTABILITY in the guise of "fighting for justice against racism" is the #1 issue facing the so-called "black community" and enough is enough.

  • Katherine

    If it was thrown out of a window, where's the footage or the seized package?

  • r r

    Philando Castille did not flee nor did he move the wrong way and sadly that man is in the ground right now. Everyone knows what's going on here. If you were in the military you definitely aren't naive to what's happening systematically.

  • Xistt

    You realize the charges were dropped, right? You ask the police department and report back, k?

  • Well$$Well$$?

    This!!!! Dylan Roof, who shot up a whole church of people, wasn't treated like how these folks were.

  • Katherine

    Regardless of the charges being dropped, IF evidence of these claims ever existed, this will be released to the public, we will be informed. Until then, it's based on speculation and hearsay.

  • Xistt

    When the officer approached, the family was driving away.
    The officer ordered them to stop. They drove away and the police followed them to the apartment complex. A woman with the family got out of the vehicle and attempted to run away. She had warrants out for her.

  • Xistt

    Joseph Kauser did not feel that Jeronimo Yanez had any reason to shoot. Castille did not move the wrong way? I don't know, I wasn't there. Yanez thought he did. Kauser didn't. They were there. I wasn't. Did Kauser testify against Yanez?

  • http://www.pureromance.com LA

    "who steals underwear from the dollar store?!"

    Some poor people and most drug addicts to name a few...

  • Xistt

    Officer Robert “Mac” McKeithen was shot and killed on camera, yet the gunman was called alleged, despite video evidence of murder.
    Sounds like it is not proof unless you want to be proof. I am done. Have a good day, have a bad day, it is up to you, just stay out of the news, k?

  • selectivewords

    I thought so too!. My cousin used to work at Bealls and that's what she told me. Once they are out of the store, there is nothing you can do.

  • Desi

    Let's just keep it real. You know DAMN WELL dey waz stealin'. Stop playin' wit me. The child was even stealing. The apple don't fall far, does it?

  • Being bad is way more fun

    So a women got out of the car the police were following that had warrants what does that have to do with the people in the car ?? I forgot all black people are just guilty of something they just havent been caught yet. If anything they should have arrested the person with warrants in this manor but for some reason I dont even see where they got arrested ?? If I saw the police following me for that length of time for really no reason at all I would be very upset and justified for feeling that way.. Its sad people want to cast the worst possible on any minority that is involved in something like this but turn a blind eye to everything the cops did wrong and caused all of this to happen !!!!

  • Desi

    Exactly. Shit, I'm getting ready to go to the family dollar and " pick something up and place it somewhere else in the store so I can get harassed and assaulted by some cops" for a free check. GTFOH!!

  • Being bad is way more fun

    This is not what happened of course this is just your twisted view on minorities . The child got a toy looks like the parent told her to put it back or down and the child did not .. You look later and found the child has taken it out of the store .. It was a mistake and none of this should have been done over a f n 1 dollar doll !!!

  • Desi

    The news said he had STOLEN underwear on him and his daughter had a STOLEN doll on her. Don't steal if you can't face the consequences.

  • SeannaPaula

    Best ivestigative journalism ever. Thanks for the clarity from the POLICE FACTS SHEETS, as we all know, they always, always tell the truth.

  • C Mack

    That’s exactly who I was thinking of. Couldn’t remember that punk’s name.

  • Maxx

    They were complying so please stop lying. They were not given a chance to comply because they were over aggressive & she was scared for her children.

  • Leigh John

    I donr like that they stole anything, its not right, period.The problemis that police are not executioners, they are ro apprehend and let a court decide guilt and punishment.They understand this in the case of white people.When a mass murderer, usually white, get apprehended and not killed, there is something very wrong.

  • Leigh John

    Lol, right.It has already come out that several things were ommitted in the police report that were shown in the video.

  • SugarFoot a.k.a Ty

    The question is how did he know she had warrants? How did he even know her identity to run a background check? Did she yell her name out when she dropped whatever? If the person with warrants exited the vehicle why didn’t they circle back to arrest her instead of pulling guns on the people that didn’t have warrants? If they peeled off I’m sure they would’ve mentioned a high speed chase. No one is saying they’re not wrong if they were shoplifting but pointing a gun at a woman holding a baby is not justified no matter how much they dress it up. What did you expect them to put in the report... yeah we phucked up again? Let’s compare Sandra Bland’s police report to the video. Wth happened to us?!???????????

  • Xistt

    Please show where they complied in a timely fashion and I lied. Thank you.

  • WiserWords2

    That female WAS NOT the mother of the children. It's funny you want the "black community" to take "SELF-ACCOUNTABILITY" but don't ask the cops, who neglected to mention their bad acts in their written reports.

  • SugarFoot a.k.a Ty

    This happened at old navy last week and the employee put hands on the lady (black). They pulled the security footage and discovered she wore the shirt in the store. Now if she would’ve choke slammed the employee for touching her she would’ve been arrested for assault for defending her self. They fired the employee and issued an apology. Yet people are defending this shyt

  • WiserWords2

    Sweetie, most shoplifters are WHITE.

  • WiserWords2

    White people started stealing when they landed on this continent. Are they hoodrats?

  • SugarFoot a.k.a Ty

    Tax paying citizen logic! Regardless of my logic there are laws and rights in place for a purpose. You don’t get to pick and choose who can use them due to their lifestyle or financial instability

  • Daryl Campbell

    These are important factors to this incident..It changes the complexion of the video.

  • Coffee1st

    Black people are not monolith and look many ways and there are class and cultural distinctions that differentiate black people from each other.
    ??????
    ***And as far as many yt's are concerned EVERY class & cultural distinction of "black" can get it.***

  • Jennifer

    I'm torn on these issues bc my dad was a police officer so I've always viewed the law from that perspective. I feel like when you break the law, you get what's coming.
    It's too easy to do the right thing than to look for sympathy in doing the wrong thing. That's not to say we aren't falsey accused, harrased, killed, etc. But this isn't that situation.

    Its so bothersome that they're playing the race card when they're a disgrace to our race!

  • Ice

    I thought that’s what Philando Castile did. The pigs are out of control.

  • Ice

    And they’re certainly never accosted by violent beefy looking doughnut chomping cops.

  • Ice

    How can you ever justify this sort of over the top aggression over a petty crime like shoplifting.? People of all ta Rex shoplift are they also a disgrace to their race. Police are not supposed to be the judge jury and executioner.
    How can you support a police officer paid by American taxpayers, who threatens to shoot a young woman in the face over something as petty as shoplifting.... unbelievable.
    There would be no need for a race card if the criminal justice system wasn’t racist. This is a verifiable and documented fact .

  • Jennifer

    Yes, all thieves are a disgrace.
    Especially ones that teach a 4 year old how to steal. Personally, a thief is the worst kind of person bc they have no conscience and cannot be trusted.

    Beyond that, the only point I'm making is there are consequences to breaking the law. I'm informed on police brutality and how its related to Black people since the 1600s. But in this instance, police didn't pull law abiding citizens from a Bible study and point guns at them.

    They treated theives accordingly. And I'm totally fine with agreeing to disagree.

  • Lorenzo Chaps

    I said they were shoplifting, probably gave the baby the doll and then walked out the store. I had no idea it was to this level. This aside, the cops still handled the situation wrong.

    The parents were shoplifting with kids in tow. Wrong. The cops pulled weapons on the entire family and threatened to shoot them over a doll. Also wrong. The family will still win or receive a settlement. DG should simply press charges for the shoplifting.

  • Lorenzo Chaps

    Girl what's on aisle 2? I'll find out this weekend just in case I'm ever this desperate.

  • Ryan

    The fact that the cops followed this family home and acted like they were public enemy #1 over some dollar store underwear and a d they have too much time on their hands and are wasting taxpayer money.

    And also judging from the number of comments this post has gotten, once again the alt-right simps have descended with their saying it/not saying it brand of cowardly racism. If this family was white they would NEVER give that energy. And today I'm not going to engage their lonely incel azzes.

  • Coy little wink

    Thank you!

  • Ryan

    Drawing guns over some doggone dollar store underwear AT THE PEOPLE'S HOME "cause they thought they were armed." has really dumbed these rednecks down and I didn't even think that was possible LOL!!

  • lovelygamour

    my problem with this is these general dollar stores get robbed a lot. they have to come down hard on everyone to stop the armed robberies. plus, i cant fault the cops this time because these stories will close down if there is too much thief. then the whole little community has no store.

    for this family dollar to call the cops and for the cops to pursue it means that store probably has a heavy thief problem. I remember visiting people who had to drive for almost an hour anytime they wanted to go to a regular store. so the cops didnt have to be so heavy handed but I cant be upset.

  • lovelygamour

    this is a lie. your average shoplifter will be a white female ages 12-45. go look it up.

  • Chicagowise

    "If you lie, you will steal. If you steal, you will kill. Dishonesty is a slippery slope."

    - great granny Chicagowise.

  • yvette46

    You must don't read what you write?
    Your comment:", but black people are the biggest offenders when it comes to shop lifting."
    Your words not mine!! I was just at a very popular retail store and TWO white guys and the White girfriend were arrested in separate incidents for STEALING. What you did was label all black people as being thieves, and you got us fucked up in your head. That's like me stating that ALL black women wear weave when I know it's not true. Expand your mind because you truly are brainwashed!!

    Ps.. I wasn't justifying their stealing I was speaking on you calling ALL Black people thieves.. reading is fundamental!!

  • Truth Or Die

    Of course it does and even if you think there are inconsistencies in the report or even if its a bunch of lies (as some of the people are saying in response to my post) it needs to be apart of this story so the public can get a more balance overview of the story. This was not a simple oversight, it was deliberate

  • MNjumpoffacliff

    Teaching the baby wrong early smh however they need to apply the same practice when their employees steal merchandise from shopper's belongings. I got got they would do nothing about it and about 6 months later it closed.

  • Moon Lee

    They don't go this hard on a Redneck in a trailer park, on meth!

  • Jussjess25

    Welp guess this means the whole family should've been shot dead for shoplifting .. this society makes me sick ?

  • Rhyme and Reason

    I know they make us the face of any crime, regardless of government stats!

    I’ve worked in retail, Bloomingdales, Saks, and you are right, white people get caught, all the time and treated with dignity, and if they run, there won’t be much of an attempt to capture them!

  • the guest

    MOST SHOPLIFTERS are elderly white women who are actually chronic shoplifters and permitted to systemically steal.

    My statement is that poor black folks DON'T HAVE to steal from Family Dollar. That couple could have gone to many resources that day and been blessed with an abundance of clothing, food, and toys.

  • the guest

    This is a twisted view on minorities?:

    They had no business STEALING underwear and teaching the baby to STEAL a $1 doll. Nevertheless, the police had no business responding with EXCESSIVE FORCE and BRUTALITY.

    The parents should have been arrested, just arrested, without all the police officer histrionics, theatrics, and melodrama that literally handed the petty thieves a multi-million dollar settlement.

  • Look@m3

    unh unh...LMAO...Too early this morning for this!!!

  • not impressed

    Did you watch the video? There is no indication that the underwear was stolen.

  • not impressed

    Did you watch the video? There was no indication that the underwear was stolen. The video showed that he looked at it; picked it up and had it in his hand. There is an obvious time lag then he walks out the store with nothing in his hands.

    Plus, the mayor apologized, already. I am sure she had more information than you.

    How does a kid taking a doll become "indoctrinating children into shoplifting"?
    Y'all are too extreme sometimes. This is a form of racism. We can't just have individual naughty kids. Instead, according to you, it has to be a system whereby Black people cheat society by utilizing our whole family/social group like we are some sheep.

  • Alextra Ballard

    Over a dolla doll and some draws

  • not impressed

    For the sake of discussion, Lets assume this is true.
    What "item" did the "female" drop? Was it the doll?

    Did the officer know if she had seen him as he approached? There was nothing in this blurb saying that he attempted to identify himself or if he approached the "female" with sirens. I did an internet search; booked for warrants means that she went to the police already to take care of them. It just means the court date has not happened for those misdemeanors. If she was taking care of the warrants, can they be considered "open" as you stated?

    Why did the police use such aggressive tactics on her?

    We have smart people in our "black community". We will read everything and parse it out.

  • not impressed

    I am not fine with agreeing to disagree when lives are at stake, especially childrens lives. You and that police officer may be ok with pointing a gun at a 1 and 4 year old but most normal people would look askance at that.

    To call two children thieves is a stretch. As someone else said, grab me the remote while you stretch.

  • not impressed

    Please provide verfiable statistics as to robberies or theft in dollar stores.

  • Ryan

    Actually they are trained to speak loudly and clearly but also de-escalate situations when possible. In this instance threatening to shoot someone in the head over petty theft was not an appropriate tactic. If that was the norm there would be outrage on the news about the rash of "hard-working people who hit a rough patch" getting harassed and killed over items that cost less than thirty cents to produce; trailer parks would become ghost towns with all of those meth heads getting picked off one by one.

  • SugarFoot a.k.a Ty

    I don't know it was sarcasm I like the Dollar Tree lol

  • AListDiva29

    Not sure how true it is, but I read he has multiple outstanding warrants and refused to get out of the car when approached, If its true, then Roc Nation is going to look real dumb, and his baby mama is even dumber! Stop procreating with fuc*king bums!!! SMDH

  • wigmon68

    I agree that an arrest report is only part of the story and they don't always contain facts. The cell phone video is only also a portion of what happened (almost always starts capturing after some important things happened). The details will get filled in by the investigation.

  • wigmon68

    Cops pull over car. Irate man opens door screaming at them refuses orders, reaches back into center console for something that you cannot identify, what do you do? IF you were an average citizen, you would have walked away and never confronted the individual, but cops have to stop and arrest people. They pulled their guns until they felt it was clear that the guy didn't reach for the gun and until the couple started complying.

    You (assumption) and I don't work jobs where you are forced to confront criminals who often act erratically and they are trained on how to handle those situations. IF you don't want the cops to draw their guns on you, don't commit a crime, don't yell at them and listen to the commands they are giving you. Its pretty simple. As I mentioned earlier, the cops may have been too aggressive and we'll see how the investigation into their actions plays out. But right now, neither you or I know exactly what went down.

  • Katherine

    Haven't heard any news reports about him having underwear on him, only the daughter and the doll. Besides, news reports can be inaccurate or based on biased police reports. If there's video footage or a trial to sort out actual evidence then just relying on news reports or police reports can cause the spreading of inaccuracies.

  • SugarFoot a.k.a Ty

    reaches back into center console for something that you cannot identify, what do you do?
    _______
    Now ask yourself how many times we've heard this script after someone was killed for a random traffic stop etc. No need to wait on the investigation I'm sure you know how its going to play out. Just like that bs script you posted is on all the police reports of the victims that were killed by officers. They are always reaching even with their hands up or a threat while running away. "They may have been too aggressive" yeah we're done here hun. Smooches :)

  • HerrinSchadenfreude

    The excuses from Black twitter. Seems as though this article writer has chosen a side based on something entirely outside the spectrum of what happened here, and we know what that something is.

    As to the shoplifting, if they did it, they should have been apprehended and either returned to the store to pay for it or arrested on petty theft charges. Neither requires what we saw in the video, and as I've said before, I've never seen anyone in my entire life get dealt with the way these people got dealt with in a shoplifting situation. Kids have been stealing from stores since shelves. So have adults. You don't pull guns and threaten to blow their brains out and tell them you don't give a f*** about their children with the children right the f*** there listening.

  • HerrinSchadenfreude

    Then your granny was a moron. Simple but true. Or else she was describing herself. If this were true then almost everyone I grew up with in the 70's and 80's would be up on murder charges right now and we might as well bring back the death penalty for adultery because all people who lie to their spouses might one day become capital criminals.

    Slippery slopes indeed. Are you aware that logical fallacies are how you lose arguments, not win them?

  • HerrinSchadenfreude

    If you're aware of the demographics on shoplifting and weren't trying to highlight poor Blacks as if they are predominant then why the special section for them? Aren't the resources you described available for everyone else as well or do people only donate toys for poor Blacks?

  • HerrinSchadenfreude

    I don't think what you were looking at was stolen. Perhaps you need blackout glasses to keep you from looking too hard at what you shouldn't, unless you're gay and that's all you wanted to see!

  • HerrinSchadenfreude

    LOLOLOLOL!

  • HerrinSchadenfreude

    Not the most well thought out post, here. Or do you think police can do anything they want in response regardless of the nature of the offense? And before you answer, consider that I already know you don't think that where you and yours are concerned. But how about other people?

  • HerrinSchadenfreude

    Why do you alternate the statements in which you mention someone was Black and when you don't? I can't even consider what you're saying until we get past that. It's almost as if you don't have a problem with said support until you find out the perps are Black.

    I have to wonder where you were on the three strikes law when it got applied first to a White bum who stole a slice of pizza off a stand in Venice, CA. Because there was a ton of outrage about police follow up actions and punishments not fitting crimes then. And when I consider that any seemingly wrong move could have resulted in one of these cops shooting these people and that death is a worse punishment than 32 years in jail is, well...

  • HerrinSchadenfreude

    No actually it's in the documents that founded the country. Stay patriotic, "citizen".

  • wigmon68

    Stick to the case. you asked why officers pulled guns. I stated the reason provided in the arresting report. ITs a valid reason under the law. They did not fire because suspect showed his empty hands and put them on the steering wheel.

  • Sassie

    The Dollar Store needs to invest in fucking anti-theft devices, then

  • Chicagowise

    A hit dog always hollers. Struck a nerve, huh?

  • Applebootay

    Even if it were true, drawing guns was unnecessary

  • not impressed

    Where did you read that? Does it justify the police holding a gun on toddlers?

  • SugarFoot a.k.a Ty

    Stick to the case. you asked why officers pulled guns.
    __________
    See this is why I said I'm done because lack of comprehension aggravates the hell out of me. Where did I pose to this question hun? My specific question was "why would they think they were armed if no one mentioned a gun," to highlight the stereotyping of blacks. They later said one person had warrants in the attempt to justify their actions. There is no way they would've known she had warrants by simply following the car. How did they know that person had warrants without an ID or running a background check first? It was discovered after the fact and added to the police report to "justify their phuck up" for people like you that can't read between the lines. This is also why she wasn't arrested on site for said warrants, they didn't know who the hell she was at the time. We don't even know of her warrants are active. Granted, this is not even the person who was held at gunpoint while holding her child and being threatened to be shot in the face.

    I am sticking to the case and also provided an example/link of why they use/see us as target practice. You can't look at one aspect of a scenario and expect to grasp the bigger picture. Which is why we have so many of these cases that end with blacks dying and the standard script that you provided in the police report. "They were reaching and/or I felt threatened." They're trained to shoot first and ask questions later (if you actually Googled the story) which is "NOT" the law. Secondly, I suggested that you ask yourself how many times have we heard the script that you're quoting from the arresting report. Now I have another question lol So did he jump back in the car after being irate and put his hands back on the steering wheel in between dropping something in the console? My analytical azz needs specifics chile. You know the minor details that are missing from the report that will put everything in perspective

  • YBooks

    Chile it more than the dollar store I seen people right in the grocery store stuff meat down there pants. People don’t care anymore

  • YBooks

    I want to know who buying the diapers or is he stuff them down his pants too
    don’t do the deed if you can’t take care of the seed.

  • EyeEmJai

    I didn't think it was unnecessary because the cops didn't know if they were armed or not.

  • EyeEmJai

    I agree with everything you said. What applies here is every action has a reaction; it may not be a reaction you thought but one nonetheless. In like manner, some reactions are consequences. Race was not applicable in this situation. If so, then this occurrence also proves ALL Blacks are "criminals". That's not accurate though. Some people are being very selective in this.

  • EyeEmJai

    If that's a stretch then what do you call an individual who takes something they hadn't paid for or that isn't their property? Is there a different term other than 'thief' if their ages are being considered [irrationally]?

  • EyeEmJai

    There would be no POLICE FACT SHEETS if they hadn't stolen anything and got caught doing it.

  • EyeEmJai

    There would be no "bad acts in their written reports" if there were "self-accountability" by these adults...by paying for the items instead of stealing them. Period. Two wrongs (THEIR wrong and the police response to them as wrong) don't make a right (legal term: Doctrine of Clean Hands). These people will never be RIGHT in my eyes...and, apparently, they have WARRANTS to prove that. SMH

  • EyeEmJai

    Of course they are available to everyone. However, the people who stole in the case are Blacks. It seems he or she was remaining on topic (with his or her conclusion of why the crime occurred) and not trying address this SPECIFIC situation as a general statement.

  • Jennifer

    I agree, totally. This is critical thinking and not overlooking the point. I think people are passionate about police brutality and that's fully understandable, however, be fair and make sense.

  • Jennifer

    lol, ok.

  • LLC

    "A routine shoplifting trip.." lawdd ?

  • Patricia

    there are A TON of prejudiced black folks. they hide behind excuses of "eye for an eye" regarding the history of racism of this country, but, the truth is, they are equal to their hateful white counterparts. thus is a family of crooks, plain and simple, and they are abusive and negligent towards their own BLACK children teaching them to be crooks and putting them in harms way.

    the truth is, criminals have cops & other thugs kicking down the doors of their homes all the time with their entire families chilling in the foreground. criminals are selfish and use their own children as shields, scapegoats, and decoys all the time. we have seen them cram drugs down the underwear of their kids in the state pen to leading highspeed chases with their kids in the backseat to welcoming convicted felons to live in their homes with their innocent babies. they dont give a damn about their children! criminals are selfish.

  • Patricia

    my husband used to have a weekend security gig at dollar general. packages and bags would be left open throughout the store each day. he said mamas crammed items down inside the strollers and diaper bags of their children... meanwhile, my daughter snatched up a pack of bubblelicious bubble gum at age 5 and got her azz beat by my husband, me, and my mama before we dragged her back to that store and had her return the pack her damned self. different strokes for different folks...

  • Patricia

    thats why im slow to speak on these released videos. they often dont catch/show the footage leading up to the event. if thats true about him refusing orders, that wouldnt surprise me at all. it wouldnt be the first time a criminal hid behind a bunch of women and babies to evade cops.

  • Patricia

    yeah, and its a "dolla doll and draws" today, its breaking in your home and stealing all your familys belongings tomorrow, and shooting your azz dead at the red light in a carjacking next week! dont underestimate thievery. they dont get better, they get bolder!

  • Patricia

    thieves make me sick. always plotting and scheming how to take other folks mess and they ALWAYS justify it by its "measly dollar value"! if its so cheap, buy it yourself, n!@%# stop stealing.

  • Patricia

    i havent met a liar who wasnt also a cheater and/or thief. i dont underestimate what they are willing to do to get what they want. furthermore, nobody starts out robbing and carjacking in a day. they work thier way up to that level.

  • Patricia

    youll be the same one crying bloody murder and calling them all kinds of names when these same goons break in your familys house to steal 6 months from now.

  • Patricia

    bc shoplifting leads to burglary leads to robbery leads to carjacking and murder. thats why.

  • Desi

    Don't break the law. That's what I think.

  • Desi

    I have a child, and she doesn't steal because I teach her AT HOME that taking something that doesn't belong to you is WRONG. I believe she is modeling after her parents. And this time they just caught a bad break.

  • Wakando Shamar Taylor

    Well don't know the stats but a family dollar gets robbed every other day here in Memphis! It's normal to see plywood on the door cause the glass was broken out the night before

  • Wakando Shamar Taylor

    But he didnt so ur off the subject azz comment is irrelevant!

  • AListDiva29

    Its both the stupid mother and fathers fault period! He never should of taken his family with him to break the law, and is now going to file a 10 million dollar lawsuit? That's some BS!

  • AListDiva29

    Both the parents are at fault! They knew what they were going there to do, and shouldn't have dragged those poor kids into it! I hope CYS comes and takes them for this BS!

  • Yashara Bat Orion

    People don’t take responsibility for their actions. I had already read that he stole a pack of underwear. Yes, the cops were totally wrong, but he put his family in jeopardy. How many black men don’t know that these cops will kill them for any BS reason? And.....that there are cameras every damn where?

  • Yashara Bat Orion

    I heard that one before. Lying is stealing and vice versa.

  • Yashara Bat Orion

    You can kill a person’s innocence or their spirit. Doesn’t always mean physical.

  • Jussjess25

    Exactly !

  • Katherine

    Congrats on your child, we are the same way. But I don't care to read about your speculations in regards to someone else's child.

  • not impressed

    So you were lying and trying to confuse the issue. Where did you find this information about "outstanding warrants"? You did not answer; you continued with your vitriol. Please, leave here with your BS.

  • Phil B.

    Oh boy, here come the apologists for the police.

  • Desi

    My opinion. It was broadcast on the news. Good day.

  • MAGACOP

    How were the cops wrong? They gave an order and the vehicle occupants ignored it.

  • MAGACOP

    You have a good strong family, and your daughter will grow up to be a great person.

    These people are literally teaching their child to steal. You see her left behind in the store waiting for them to pay. She is going to grow up to be a piece of shit.

  • MAGACOP

    I dont care if it was a penny. Dont steal.

  • Patricia

    those poor kids.

  • skspenc

    First of all, according to another article, the cops were wrong for being white. They were wrong because being white they should have allowed the blacks to steal, teach their children to steal, refuse orders from the police, then go into their house and brag about how they can do what they want because they are black. It is people like this family who cause innocent law abiding blacks to be grouped with those who are crooks. It is unfair to the majority of the black population and to the white officers who are risking their lives ever time they step out in their uniform. The language and if true some of the officers actions. We do not know the whole story but knowing adults are teaching/allowing their little children to be thiefs could make a preacher cuss.

  • MAGACOP

    Yep, there's been times when i've had to shout commands at people at gunpoint. Black people do not respect authority. I'm black btw. Black women are known for using their baby as a shield.
    I dont think they Cops should face any actions. They video only starts when the guns are drawn. I'm betting they asked them to get out 3 times first.

  • MAGACOP

    Haves, and have-nots.

    They will be have-nots. Grow up to be the dregs of society and get no more than minimum wage jobs if ANY.

  • Little Wing

    It doesn't look like he is stealing anything when he squats down. AND I don't care if he stole ALL the underwear in that damned store the cops were disgusting and out of control. They threatened murder in front of children. If a pedophile rapes a kid you don't say well he was a bad kid. WTF is wrong with you? Accusing the man doesn't take a single thing away from how egregious the cops acted.

  • Little Wing

    You know what's funny here. Cops steal more from citizens than burglars. Officers can take cash and property from people without convicting or even charging them with a crime through the highly controversial practice known as civil asset forfeiture. In 2014 according to the Institute for Justice, the Treasury and Justice departments deposited more than $5 billion into their respective asset forfeiture funds. That same year, the FBI reports that burglary losses topped out at $3.5 billion. Now they are doing this every year.

    They tried to take a 1.5 million dollar home because a tenant sold $37 worth of weed. They would have if not for public outcry.