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Questions surround the arrest of a Black man being treated at an Illinois hospital last month. The man left the hospital wearing a hospital gown while hooked up to an intravenous (IV) pump.

Shaquille Dukes, pictured left, told CNN he was diagnosed with double pneumonia 2 weeks ago while on vacation. He said he went to a hospital in Freeport, Ill, on June 8 to be treated for an asthma attack.

The next day, Dukes, his boyfriend, and his brother left the hospital to go for a walk. They were stopped by hospital security as they returned to the hospital.

According to security, Dukes' boyfriend and brother became belligerent and combative with security, and the police were called. Dukes and his boyfriend were arrested and charged with disorderly conduct.

Dukes claims he is a victim of racial profiling since security accused of him of "stealing" the IV pump he was hooked up to.

Some reports claim Dukes was arrested as he walked through the hospital parking lot. But security guards say he left hospital property and walked across the street without permission.

In video obtained by the Associated Press, a nursing director confirms Dukes did not have permission from his nurse to leave the hospital.

Every hospital has a different policy regarding patients who leave the hospital and/or wander off hospital grounds without permission. Patients have the right to leave their rooms.

But there are clear policies regarding leaving the unit and length of time off the unit. Those policies are communicated to patients upon admission. Some patients ask for permission to leave the unit/floor to visit the cafeteria, gift shop, or to go outside to smoke a cigarette.

According to Patient Safety Network, at least one hospital allows patients to leave the floor for one hour. If a patient is gone longer than one hour, he is officially discharged from the hospital against medical advice. If the patient has hospital equipment with him, the equipment is considered to be stolen.

The policy is clearly explained to the patient and the patient is assessed to establish whether he is alert and oriented, competent and capable of understanding the risks involved if he leaves the hospital against medical advice.

Such policies are in place to protect the hospitals from liability.
 

 

 

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  • n1kk1a

    Poor guy. Get your ass back in that hospital bed! (I say this as I’m being discharged from the hospital as we speak after 10 days!) I know you want out, just get your treatment and go, boo. Arresting him better be for his own good, not a criminal case. Everyone doesn’t do well in those settings and he could be scared. I’ll pray for him.

  • Robert lee Bennett OG

    Double pneumonia at that age? I got a good idea what he really got

  • http://batman-news.com Roderick2011

    I don't think you're supposed to leave the hospital to go on a walk, but ok.

  • tintin

    yep its 3 easy letters and dude got a man. clear as day

  • Ms. Jackson

    ?????????

  • CookieMobster

    I saw an old black man stealing ribs Wednesday at my local Piggly Wiggly grocery store. He walked down the aisle and slid them right in the front of his pants. Made me sad. An old person ought not to need to steal anything, hell no one should ever steal, but an older person??? It really bothered me to see that.

  • Phillybruh

    Working at a hospital I see patients outside all the time with IV attached. Thank god there are plans for a rooftop garden to avoid situations such as this. But he absolutely should sue the hospital, he had a gown on and it was still attached to him. And he was ass out in a hospital gown.

  • tintin

    some Muslim chick was begging for food in the parking lot of the grocery store...i told her come with me and i will pick up some groceries for her. this heffa picked up chicken, beef, big bag of potatoes and broccoli. i told her the chicken and potatoes is all im finna buy her. i felt like giving back that day but not that much.

    another time a homeless man was begging in the coffee shop i told him i would buy him a meal. he told me he didnt ask for food he wants the money. i kindly told him to kick rocks

  • Phillybruh

    You can depending on the hospital and that you don't leave the grounds. It appears they are trying to paint this as he left the grounds.

  • Ni Ni

    I don't think they should've arrested him. He came back.

  • Li-Wright

    Has anybody seen a man walking outside the hospital with an IV? Is anybody a nurse or doctor?

  • Phillybruh

    I remember a homeless man asked me for two dollars all I had was 50 cents in my pocket I gave him that, he said that is not what he asked for, I went right in that cup and took it back...lol

  • MsVAllDay

    Arresting him is still a bit much. Plus did this one security guard really know the exact amount of time he's been gone? Come on now. Either way, if he is really sick he should be admitted back inside not arrested and thrown in a police cruiser.

  • Ni Ni

    Did he have on an overcoat too? I wonder how they stayed in place. He must've had on some unions underneath his pants.

  • heavn_sent

    Who removed the IV?

  • Li-Wright

    Somebody should call the doctor, simple as that.

  • Phillybruh

    I'm not a nurse or a dr but I see it all the time here where I work.

  • Li-Wright

    IMO it looks strange to see a man walking around in a gown hooked up to an IV. As a citizen I would think he was walking away from the hospital - with hospital property, including the gown.

  • Phillybruh

    Or just use common sense he's in a gown with the IV attached.

  • Li-Wright

    Hooked to an IV????? Out in the street or on the hospital grounds?

  • Phillybruh

    on the hospital grounds

  • Li-Wright

    Okay so we need clarification about this man. Was he on hospital property on off hospital property? In any case, it just looks strange.

  • tintin

    beggers are getting worse by the day

  • Ni Ni

    Feel better soon! ?

  • SaltineCrackers

    Chile these hospitals will let you go outside to smoke as many cigarettes as you want, but won't let you go for a walk? SMH.

  • Phillybruh

    Again, here is where common sense would come in, hey, your not supposed to be this far from the hospital with that equipment. I need you to head back.

  • Carrington

    I've worked at hospitals my entire life and, yes, they WILL go for a walk throughout the facility, sometimes while wearing telemetry monitors but, specifically while attached to IV pumps. Most hospitals, in 2019, are non smoking facilities - which means you aren't even supposed to smoke on hospital grounds while in your own car. Some places, you'll see a patient across the damn street, with an IV, smoking a Newport. Should they be? Probably not... are you going to be able to stop someone who smokes several packs per day (who has been in a hospital where he hasn't smoked for the past 8 days) from lighting one up? No!

    Most hospitals tolerate it because there are patients who would rather leave AMA (against medical advice) NEEDING the care - than to go without a cigarette.

    That's why seeing a patient on a pump off grounds (but NEAR the facility) isn't a big deal. Certainly shouldn't be a big enough deal to arrest the patient unless he's at the bus stop!

  • Gloria

    I’m a nurse and it’s pretty common for patients to walk outside on hospital grounds with someone as long as they are stable and cleared to do so by the attending physician.

  • Cricket404

    Sounds like a trick bags and reaching for straws. Hospital administration is protecting itself against getting sued, it's all in the wording. Nurse may have told the patient it was ok to take a walk, didn't specify not to leave hospital grounds. Most hospitals own the area around hospitals, I would need to see route before I dismiss this as being malicious. All those rules might have been in paperwork at check-in, but who reads all that.

  • Renee26

    Disgusting the way they describe these black males ?

  • BaileyBlue17

    She tried it

  • AphroKween

    Lets not assume its HIV because anyone can be hit with double pneumonia at ANY age. Its not abnormal.

  • Gloria

    Thank you. Dude has pneumonia so I hope he wasn’t smoking but it’s always THOSE patient who do ?????

  • http://sandrarose.com SandraRose

    I'm a RN, and I know it is common for stable patients to walk the hospital grounds with permission. The nursing director said his nurse did not give him permission to leave the hospital. It really depends on the hospital policy.

  • Phillybruh

    They could be hooked to oxygen and want that Newport.

  • Renee26

    Agreed... They were discriminating against these young men. The patient was on camera calm than a mf yet the pigs use wording like, confrontational, belligerent, uncooperative, combative...

    Fug those pigs! Disgusting ?

  • Renee26

    The officer who cuffed him

  • heavn_sent

    Whaaaat? Yu're kidding, I'm sure. LOL There's a video but I can't watch at work.

  • Renee26

    I see it all the time... Working in the hospitals it's the norm. You may even see them in wheelchairs

  • Carrington

    Well, I'm not saying HE was smoking - but I was using that as an example to illustrate that patients walk off grounds wearing pumps.

  • Ghetto Real Name

    Both parents of mine have been in the hospital NUMEROUS times, Four bouts of cancer between them. Numerous surg. Overnight stays. Stays up to a week plus. Longest stints were for my dad. One 3 weeks. Another over a MONTH--almost two. Never ever have I heard any hospital explaining their boundaries. I DO know you cant smoke on hospital grounds and have seen NUMEROUS folks patients included congregated way far away at the dead ass hospital boundary smoking.

  • Alextra Ballard

    Chiiile I know yew were going crazy?..... I was in there for five and almost went nuts....I’m just thankful I made it out and doing well

  • Bree

    Double pneumonia!! Whew!! I hope he gets well soon!!

  • Renee26

    Thieves get old just like everybody else. He made that choice

  • Bree

    I hope things get better for you. I hate hospitals.

  • Carrington

    And HAVE been. Trust me. You see all kinds of $hit on these hospital properties. Can't breathe, dragging an oxygen tank, coughing and hacking like his only functional lung on it's last 10% and he STILL making Malboro rings in the air.

  • Renee26

    Yeah, he was hooked up right up until he got put in cuffs

  • Carrington

    Don't they always? I don't care how calm you are, "confrontational" is a free pass to label you a threat.

  • Ghetto Real Name

    Also at our main big hospital dead across the street are a CVS and a Walgreens. Side by side. I have seen people in there in hospital gowns.

  • Vonda K

    You said what I was thinking?

  • http://sandrarose.com SandraRose

    Security says he was being allowed to get his stuff "checked back in" to the hospital. That sounds like he was officially discharged after he left. Then the boyfriend and the brother became combative with security and the police were called. Shaquille said he spoke with his nurse and doctor who gave him permission to leave the hospital. But his nurse said he was not given permission to leave. We don't know how long he was gone. But some hospitals will discharge patients who are gone AMA. At that point, the equipment is considered stolen.

  • heavn_sent

    SMH

  • Soda

    A few years ago a young woman with 2 children in a stroller approached me in the grocery store and asked if I could buy her kids something to eat. I said okay, I'll help you to get something. While getting my items, I saw her at the meat dept with a tray of pork chops and everything else for a complete dinner. When I told her I couldn't pay for all that, she just smiled and said okay. I met her later at the checkout and told her I'd buy her a bag of the hot 8pc chicken they sell at the deli. She went and got it, I paid for everything then told her I'd give it to her outside. Once there, she lifted the blanket that covered the hood of the stroller and there was all the food I told her previously I wouldn't pay for. I was so disgusted, thinking she was probably going to fix a whole meal for some sorry man. I should have snatched the chicken back from her for making me an accessory to her crime but she did feed her kids. ?

  • http://sandrarose.com SandraRose

    If you listen to the security guard's explanation, he was allowed to check back in, but his boyfriend and brother became combative with security.

  • Blak

    "The next day, Dukes, his boyfriend, and his brother left the hospital to go for a walk. They were stopped by hospital security as they returned to the hospital.

    According to security, Dukes' boyfriend and brother became belligerent and combative with security, and the police were called. Dukes and his boyfriend were arrested and charged with disorderly conduct." THIS explains why he got arrested and has nothing to do with being black unless being black is an excuse for being stupid and belligerent. You are walking around outside, no permission from staff, with an IV connected to you post asthma attack and with double pneumonia...IDIOT! If something happened to him then the hospital would be 100% responsible and get sued. I give no F's for this attention seeking idiot

  • http://sandrarose.com SandraRose

    He was off hospital property. I read one article that said he went to some apartments down the street.

  • heavn_sent

    It's not abnormal? Ummm....

  • http://sandrarose.com SandraRose

    If you look at the video, he is standing in the street off hospital property. He is actually on city property.

  • Phillybruh

    The word leave will be up to a jury to define in this case.

  • http://sandrarose.com SandraRose

    Did you watch the video? The nursing director spoke with his nurse who said he did not have permission to leave the hospital.

  • Blak

    This is completely unacceptable where I live as a lot of hospitals are situated right off a main street; give exception to one and you leave the door wide open to get sued for neglecting the patient. Going for a walk in the garden is one thing but if you are being confronted by security, respond like a human being and not an animal like this fool

  • Phillybruh

    Not necessarily we don't know how expansive the hospital is. They tend to take up one whole block. So he may be in front of some houses but still on the hospitals grounds.

  • Phillybruh

    Now they are reaching with it. Just say he was off grounds what's next he went to club the night before.

  • http://sandrarose.com SandraRose

    There is a nursing director in the video. I assume he removed the IV. Just judging by the video, it seems the patient may have been discharged for leaving the hospital.

  • SaltineCrackers

    I'm waiting to see if the homosexual plus community will publicly offer their support to this young man.

  • Phillybruh

    Why were they stopped in the first place?

  • AphroKween

    It means its not unusual. I work in Pediatric and Adult Medicine, people become sick with pneumonia and most are not HIV +.

  • Vonda K

    Their names are Shaquille and Marquandrant and boyfriend is grinning like he’s a star.
    I’m not buying it. Your half dead arse need to follow hospital rules.
    I know a family member would check into hospital then leave go smoke, use drugs and Invite their friends inside and order all sorts of hospital food. Whew Chile a mess.
    The nurses would try to keep patients like this semi quarantined for their own health and safety.

  • Carrington

    My mama raglass smokes. Had a stroke. My aunt called and said, "I think your mama been drinking and it's 1000 in the morning... she's slurring her speech." OK, THAT doesn't sound right. I call her and damn if her speech isn't off. So, I ask if she's been drinking and she says, "I woke up and my mouth was twisted a little, but I took an aspirin and it's not anymore, but my speech is slurred... I had an allergic reaction."

    "To what?!? You're 62 years old, when did you start having allergic reactions?"

    "I was smoking a cigarette last night while removing fingernail polish from my fingers and the chemicals caused a reaction..."

    "If you don't call an ambulance and take your a$$ to the hospital! You've been removing polish and smoking for 40 years! Why did you suddenly have a "reaction"?!? You had a STROKE! Go to the hospital!" (I'm in Houston, she's in Chicago)

    "No. I haven't had a stroke. I'm telling you what it is. It was nothing but an allergic reaction!" (now she mad)

    I call my other aunt in Florida who calls the ambulance and sends them TO her a$$... and not only did she have a stroke but the doctor told her that she's lucky as hell because this is her SECOND stroke. (we never even knew about the first one - and apparently, neither did she when she took aspirin and went back to bed)...

    Doctor told her to quit smoking. She's back at 100% now. If I call her right NAH, I'm going to hear her flickin her Bick in the background and if I ask if she's smoking, I'm going to hear her blow a gallon of smoke out of her mouth before she finally LIES and says, "No, I'm lighting a candle..."

    OK. Have a stroke... I'm putting your ass in a nursing home!! It's one thing to have to take care of you because $hit happens... but when you put YOURSELF in that position, it's unfair and selfish ASF to force someone to adjust their life to have to care for you because you wouldn't stop smoking!

    Then my auntie gone call me talking about, "Your mama said, "I better start taking care of myself because my son told me he putting me in a nursing home..."

    Call her right now and she blazin' up - BET!

  • http://sandrarose.com SandraRose

    As a RN, I can honestly say I have never seen a patient pushing an IV pump down the street. Yes, I've seen patients wearing gowns on the street, but never one pushing an IV pump.

  • Phillybruh

    My Grandmom had a skull and bones sticker on her front door that said oxygen on premises no smoking...but did she care...nope...lol

  • Ghetto Real Name

    One of the officers who arrested Dukes wrote that the security officer was wrong in suspecting that the patient was trying to steal the equipment.

    "Because there was property left at the hospital by Shaquille, specifically a bank card, I believed that Shaquille was probably going to return to the hospital with the IV cart," the officer wrote. "Therefore I determined that Shaquille was not going to be charged with Attempted theft, but he would still be charged with Disorderly Conduct for the confrontation with" the security guard."

  • Gloria

    I’m going through this right now with my father!!!! Nothing has happened to him yet (knock on wood) but he smokes like a chimney! It makes me sick and just breaks my heart. And he has no intentions of quitting ?????

  • http://sandrarose.com SandraRose

    We don't know that hospital's policy. The hospital might have a policy that says the patient is discharged if he leaves hospital grounds without permission.

  • Vonda K

    Well look at from this point of view.
    You fed her and children for that moment and as a mother she was thinking of what kids going to eat tomorrow and the next. She in survival mode. World need more caring people like yourself.??

  • Phillybruh

    I mean, your doing a pretty good pr job for the hospital, but we know why they were stopped.

  • http://sandrarose.com SandraRose

    In the video he says he left and came back before. So that was not his first time leaving the hospital.

  • Carrington

    Then they want you to take care of them and put that damn big assed bed in your living room for the rest of their lives. I told my mama. I'm coming to see you. I'm going to make the nurses do their job. I'm going to pick you up every now and then and take you out to eat, bring you to the house for the weekend every now and then and on holidays... but I am NOT giving you baths and feeding you and setting up day care schedules for someone who didn't give a f*ck! You've lived YOUR life and did everything you wanted to do and you think it's OK to continue to "do you" because you can always fall back on your plan to disrupt the prime of MY life?!? I don't f*cking think so. Shady Pines... here she come. And she is going to be TROUBLE because she IS Sophia!

  • Ghetto Real Name

    And if what you are thinking what he POSSIBLY has....does it mean he cant REALLY have double pneumonia in addition? You are fukkin disgusting as a person for this shit.

  • http://sandrarose.com SandraRose

    If he's on the sidewalk (which it looks like he was), then he's off hospital grounds. The sidewalk is city property.

  • KcoolMuziq

    Well at least he spoke & explained it articulately with some kind of sense. I get so tired of these ignorant speaking people on the news.

  • Phillybruh

    He went for a walk before is that what your saying?

  • Renee26

    Wrong... Just because they describe those men that way doesn't make it truth. If you watch the video you'll see that patient being respectful in his protest of that treatment and you don't hear any arguing or uproar in the background. Yet the pigs describe them as exhibiting aggressive behavior.

    Typical "I was faced with a scary angry black male" stereotypical response.

    If you protest them treating you bad you're resisting arrest.

    They don't treat yt folks like that ?

  • Dowoop

    So security can't stop them leaving but they want to stop them coming back... Incompetent fucks!

  • Phillybruh

    No it isn't if I don't shovel the front of my house it is me that gets sued not the city.

  • Renee26

    I wonder if that was writen by the black cop who was quiet on the scene (in silent agreement of their treatment)

  • Carrington

    I think she probably DID give him permission but, like the nurses around here, told him, "I ain't telling you where you can walk... you're not SUPPOSED to leave past XYZ... but if you leave and get caught, I don't know nothin' about it." Personally, I feel like they left to smoke some weed or something.

  • Renee26

    Yup... Across the street

  • Vonda K

    I see it all the time.
    My bff had a baby and she had me watch baby while she went to smoke in her gown and IV.
    There is a one notorious hospital where I work and it’s common to see patients with gowns, and IV’s at drug store, bus stop and all up and that block by hospital.

  • Listen2Me

    I just watched the video and said the same thing. Unless there’s another video; he wasn’t aggressive and he did articulate his point of view well. He didn’t even get raise his voice when the officer handcuffed him.

  • Vonda K

    You’re a natural born story teller.
    Your momma said ‘she’s lighting a candle’ love it.?

  • Ghetto Real Name

    Not sure. But this means to me that had they NOT hollering about him STEALING.... it wouldnt have even BEEN a confrontation. Their actions caused said confrontation. I want these security guards and toy cops to learn to leave folks the HELL ALONE

  • Soda

    Thieves find a way. Video on YouTube of a woman shoving a case of beer between her legs, hiding it with her long skirt, and walking out without a wobble. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=572QlTVN4AI

  • Vonda K

    Oh no?

  • Ghetto Real Name

    If they are employing folks to actually police this far as whose foot is ONE inch out of bounds then still shame on the hospital. They need to find their employees MORE TO DO.

  • KarmaBackAround

    So basically he went to go hit a spliff across the street while admitted, was gone too damn long and took the iv drip with em.. i don't think it would be such a big deal if he wasnt hooked up to the iv.. that ALONE had the staff be all up in his business

  • http://sandrarose.com SandraRose

    What jury? That video went viral last month. He still doesn't have a lawyer.

  • Phillybruh

    I'm sure he'll have one shortly.

  • Mr.LeBrickJames

    Total overreaction by these white cops dealing with a black man. We see this every day.
    I'm quite sure if this was a Scott Greenberg or an Amy Mueller they were dealing with, these officers would have handled the situation a bit differently.

  • http://sandrarose.com SandraRose

    Some hospitals discharge patients who are gone AMA without permission. If that is what happened in this case, the equipment was stolen. The security was simply retrieving stolen property.

  • http://sandrarose.com SandraRose

    That video does not tell the entire story. His boyfriend was already arrested and sitting in the squad car.

  • Soda

    I don't know...this was in California where they give food stamps to practically anyone. In fact, they're about to give them to illegal immigrants, so she had options & sources for food. She didn't look homeless but you could be right about her in that moment.

  • Miss Thang

    This is ridiculous and completely racist.

  • SugarFoot a.k.a Ty

    They were stopped by hospital security as they returned to the hospital.
    ___________
    So he was stealing the pump but left personal items (bank card and clothes) and returned to the scene with the alleged stolen pump and was arrested? Yep sounds about white. Why didn't he keep going since he was already out if he wanted the damn pump? Why return to the hospital?

  • Mr.LeBrickJames

    True. And sometimes regular people get old and their only income is Social Security. By the time they pay for rent, food, and their prescription medication, they're broke. Not to say stealing is OK, but sometimes people find themselves in a financially desperate situation in their old age.

  • http://sandrarose.com SandraRose

    Please watch the video.

  • Andrea

    you always appear to be angry about black people when reporting things. what does his boyfriend already being arrested has to do with the PT conveying himself intelligently?

  • tintin

    OMG!!!

  • SugarFoot a.k.a Ty

    We don't know that hospital's policy.
    ___________
    How do we know the patient knew the policy? I've never been told not to leave hospital grounds by any hospital

  • http://sandrarose.com SandraRose

    Some hospitals have a policy that discharges patients who leave the hospital without permission. The patient is allowed to return to get their personal items. But it is up to the doctor to allow the patient to be re-admitted to the hospital. Based on the video, that's what it sounds like happened in this case. Once you are discharged, any equipment you have is considered stolen.

  • SugarFoot a.k.a Ty

    Did the patient know the policy or that he was voluntarily discharged? Did they tell him that he couldn't leave the hospital with the pump when he left? Did anyone attempt to contact him once his recess was over since he was over the time limit? I'm sure someone noticed a black man walking around with a pump and gown on exiting the hospital through the front door. Chile....

  • Vonda K

    I’m glad you didn’t snatch the chicken back. You fed those innocent children. Regardless, of her motive you did the right thing. Homeless and people in need most of time don’t fit the stereotype How we think they should look. I worked at homeless shelter and the residents took great pride in their appearance and their children’s as to not look homeless.

  • Ghetto Real Name

    Never. I've never heard of this til this story

  • Vonda K

    The amount of food stamps vary depending on circumstances.
    Some families get a ridiculous low amount of food stamps. ($50-$200).

    I got a soft spot for children. You did right by buying ready to eat food for kids. That way you know at least they ate.

  • doriday

    If he can walk outside with a pump. He is well enough to go home.

  • Karen Brady

    I'm just glad his bottom was covered up cuz we all know those gowns are TRICKY.

  • Karen Brady

    LOL "At the end of the day".

  • DroneRivers

    "Permission"? I honestly never knew you needed permission. The investigation sounds kinda unnecessary. Sometimes all you need is a little common sense. If he really wanted to steal from the hospital, wouldn't he get dressed first? Not leave in a cheap ass gown while his belongings are back at the hospital. And if he was stealing, why would he return to the hospital?
    I think maybe he was unaware that being across the street was not considered hospital grounds. Is stealing IVs a common thing? The entire story sounds silly.

  • doriday

    I don't understand why the nurses allowed him to walk outside with a pump.

  • DroneRivers

    lol

  • doriday

    That should have removed the I V if he was well enough to walk out onto the street. Nurses have to monitor those IV drips. Someones job is up for grabs.

  • http://sandrarose.com SandraRose

    It depends on the hospital policy. As a nurse, I personally instructed patients not to leave the hospital grounds if they ask for permission to go for a walk. The doctor is called and an order is given to allow the patient to leave the unit. I also instruct them to return to the unit within a certain timeframe.

  • http://sandrarose.com SandraRose

    Most patients who are hospitalized don't go outside because they're too sick. So this conversation isn't necessary until the patient asks to go outside.

  • Ni Ni

    A mess! They look like the types to know how to make beer in the backyard.

  • doriday

    Yes they do.

  • Ni Ni

    That's what i was thinking. Was his @zz out?

  • Phillybruh

    Folks are so dumb and ignorant these days. I blocked him for that very reason...lol

  • doriday

    Trust if my patient was on the street with IV I would be on the phone to the Doctor.

  • Ni Ni

    Then they want you to take care of them and put that damn big assed bed in your living room
    ______________
    I have tears in my eyes. They sho be in the living room laid up.

  • Coffee1st

    I have been present for many hospital admissions. I have heard AMA's explained but NEVER not to leave
    ??TEMPORARILY ?? or you could be prosecuted. Granted, he should have known not to leave with only a gown on and an iv intact, but the accusations are trumped up and ridiculous.
    This man's actions are much ado about nothing.... besides what these yt folks made up in their minds

  • Alextra Ballard

    I thought at first glance it said Shaquille and Laundromat

  • http://sandrarose.com SandraRose

    As a RN, I've been in this situation where patients ask to go for a walk while attached to an IV pump. The first thing a nurse should do is contact the doctor to ask for an order. The doctor might say wait until the medicine runs in (those little bags can take 30 minutes to an hour to infuse) then remove the IVs and let the patient leave (no pump, no IVs), but tell him to return by a certain time. None of that occurs if the patient leaves the floor without first notifying the nurse.

  • Fire & Ice

    LMAO

  • Fire & Ice

    Ikr ???

  • Fire & Ice

    The "homosexual plus community" LOL. My goodness it's Friday and the garden is lose

  • jeniefrumdabloc™

    Wtf ... took da whole machine shyt out da hosipital ... da fawk now ... come on https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/8da4d8422e27bbfc104edfcf9e97b4d2639b1c3ba2774d1e84418218e262a94d.gif why do that ???? Seriously

  • jeniefrumdabloc™

    exactly!!!!! and why did he do that ????

  • Carla B

    I have been hospitalized several times and I have never needed "permission" to do anything. Hell if I wanted to walk I just told the nurse and she said ok and that was it. Most these nurses do the bare minimum and could care less.

  • Vonda K

    Same thang. At what point after giving birth to your beautiful newborn baby do you decide ‘I’ll think I’ll name Marquandramt?

  • SugarFoot a.k.a Ty

    yes understood but how far did they think he was going without his clothes and bank card hun? If they knew his bank card was there, someone went through his personal belongings. If I'm not mistaken, patients with pneumonia are encouraged to move around and not stay idle right?

  • Jethro

    Okay, so what's the verdict, Florence Nightingale? ???????????????

  • http://sandrarose.com SandraRose

    That's exactly what doctors would say if I called them to ask if the patient could go for a walk. "If he can go for a walk, he's well enough to go home."

  • doriday

    Hopefully the nurses that had him documented well. We have to educate constantly educate our patients. This could have been avoided.

  • http://sandrarose.com SandraRose

    Yes, patients with pneumonia can walk around the unit. They don't have to leave the floor. I explained that patients are allowed to leave the unit without the pump. The medicine runs in and the IV's and pump are removed. If they choose not to take their bank card or wallet, that's on them. Most people take those items with them.

  • doriday

    Permission comes from the Doctors not the nurses. So hopefully he had a doctor's order. Looks in the chart to see if the MD gave him permission. Then they can say can say sure then they still have to educate their patient and document.

  • Yardgirl

    For some effing reason I am seeing all of the blocked people at home this week! (vacation) Not an ounce of humanity, so disgusting!!! SMH

  • SugarFoot a.k.a Ty

    I went 3 weeks past my due date with Ty8 and when they finally decided to induce me, I walked every inch of the hospital (prior) including the parking garage trying to go into labor. I had my pump the entire time but my ex hubby was also walking with me. So it happens. Thinking this man wanted to steal the pump is beyond me chile

  • Renee26

    That old fart took that slab to the family cookout... There are programs that feed our elders and disabled people on fixed incomes. It's called meals on wheels where I'm from. There are also food pantries they can go to for assistance.

  • Renee26

    Agreed

  • Renee26

    Exactly

  • http://sandrarose.com SandraRose

    If you watched the video, the nursing director says his nurse did not give him permission to leave.

  • http://sandrarose.com SandraRose

    Did you have an IV pump?

  • Ryan

    I'm confused. So they're saying he was trying to steal an IV pump but left his clothes, wallet and other personal items in the room? That makes no sense.

  • jeniefrumdabloc™

    I guess

  • http://sandrarose.com SandraRose

    Leaving a hospital with an IV pump is a big deal. Most nurses won't allow it because things can go left too quickly, then the hospital is liable. Nurses unhook the patients from the machine. Then they can leave - and that's only if the doctor gives permission. Now if the patient leaves without telling the nurse, that's different.

  • AveIvy

    I have walked down stairs, down the street and all around after being in the hospital two weeks when I delivered my twins and I was at Cedars. They encourage you to walk as much as possible and to get some sun, it helps with healing, especially respiratory. This hospital was on some fuck shit and the security guard made the decision to have them arrested on some personal BS. This could have easily been resolved with a quiet conversation. Just call the doctor, confirm he's a patient and escort him to his room. The hospital should be more concerned about who they hire as security because this is going to cost them.

  • AveIvy

    That part!

  • http://sandrarose.com SandraRose

    It's called selective editing. The police were called because they were behaving belligerently toward hospital security. The video shows what happened after the police arrived. Why are you attacking me for pointing out the obvious?

  • http://sandrarose.com SandraRose

    I've explained this multiple times. Some hospitals have a policy that automatically discharges a patient who leaves the hospital without permission. If the patient is discharged, the equipment is considered to be stolen property. Not that he was intentionally planning to steal the machine. This would not be an issue if he didn't leave with the $10,000 pump.

  • Karen Brady

    I just HOLLERED!!! Cover that azz homeboy!?

  • GAPeach

    My grandmama bed was always in the living room in her OWN DAMN HOUSE. Whole bedroom set. You walk in the front door, and she was laying in that damn bed watching the stories. Crazy thing is, we always thought this was normal. She just refused to walk upstairs, so the living room it was.

  • doriday

    This is what the call an adverse event.

  • Y’all Jealous Cuz I’m Prudy

    Chile, I've learned only smart people refuse to be manipulated with lies told by some of these outlets.

  • Blaque Mahogany

    The next day, Dukes, his boyfriend, and his brother left the hospital to go for a walk. They were stopped by hospital security as they returned to the hospital.
    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
    I've spent more time in hospitals (as a visitor) than I wanted to. It is not uncommon to see patients walking around the hospital/hospital grounds with their IV pump. Some of the larger academic hospitals (Duke for example) are blocks long and I have seen patients walking the street (still hospital grounds) with their IV pump. Sounds to me that this was a lack of communication that escalated, due to his race (& possible attitude), into something more than it needed to be.

  • Applebootay

    How is he stealing it but is on camera with it? So what...he left to go smoke a blunt prolly...

  • http://sandrarose.com SandraRose

    Those patients were likely given permission to walk the hospital grounds with their IV pumps as long as they return by a certain time because the machine needs to be plugged back in or the batteries will die. If you watch the first video, it explains everything. First, he said he asked his doctor and the nurse if he could leave. But the nursing director said he did not have permission to leave.

  • Applebootay

    He went to smoke a blunt...I keep telling yall...

  • Applebootay

    9 times out of 10,....people leave w/o permission...especially if they plan on coming back...

  • Mo Laughz

    Wtf was he thinking leaving the premises with that equipment?? I could see if it was just the hanger with the little bag on it, but this is a whole machine. That machine probably cost over 20k. Even if he wasn't intending to steal, how would they know that?

  • Allihave2say
  • Bushbabe

    He was being stupid and got everything he wanted. This is an attempt to be seen. Who does this and if you have a contagious disease you can put people in danger. And if he was well enough to walk go home and leave the people machines alone. Why is this not understood as a no no?

  • MsVAllDay

    LOL you know this was the first thing that came to my mind. Sad but oh so true.

  • Blaque Mahogany

    Asthma is contagious?

  • MsVAllDay

    Basically!

  • Bushbabe

    He had double pneumonia but claimed he had asthma. I read the whole post. He diagnosed himself with asthma but was being treated for double pneumonia.

  • Blaque Mahogany

    Most these nurses do the bare minimum and could care less.
    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

    That part.

  • Allihave2say

    TBH who really has that conversation with patients coming in sick? What discussion addresses leaving the premises without permission? It's probably in the fine print that people often sign without reading. If the patient's personal affects were still in his room & Right?

  • Allihave2say

    I'm sure this guy probably thought it was ok. I don't find that he had ill intent.

  • Carrington

    I imagine your granny being the granny who just didn't GIVE a f*ck what nobody thought - ever. LOL

  • PLEASEDontTellMe

    Why would you leave the hospital to go across the street??
    You want to leave?
    just go home niggah?

  • Bushbabe

    Sepsis and septic shock can result from an infection anywhere in the body, including pneumonia. Pneumonia can be community-acquired, meaning that a person becomes ill with pneumonia outside of the hospital or a healthcare facility. Pneumonia can also be caused by a healthcare-associated infection (HAI), which affect 1.7 million hospitalizations in the United States every year. An HAI is an infection that is contracted by people while the hospital for a different reason, such as surgery or treatment for another illness.

  • Blaque Mahogany

    In video obtained by the Associated Press, a nursing director confirms Dukes did not have permission from his nurse to leave the hospital.
    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
    The CNN article claims he asked his doctor if he could go for a walk and the doctor said yes. So, as a patient if my doctor told me I could do something, I wouldn't follow up with the CNA to see if it was ok. That's just me though.

  • Carla B

    Yes and they didnt care where I went as long as I came back

  • Blaque Mahogany

    I appreciate the cut and paste. Nevertheless, he was not diagnosed with sepsis. He was not contagious. The issue is not that he took a walk, but that he took the walk with the IV machine.

  • PLEASEDontTellMe
  • Allihave2say

    Why didn't someone stop him as he scrolled out the door? https://media1.giphy.com/media/ZaJtnTY8tFZz0PvmW9/giphy-downsized-medium.gif

  • http://sandrarose.com SandraRose

    So, in other words, you had permission to leave?

  • PLEASEDontTellMe
  • Dun Dilly

    ANYBODY leaving hospital w IV needs their AZZ KICKED....PERIODT!

  • Carla B

    The director says whatever has been cleared by the public relations dept. I bet the nurses station was empty and he went for a walk not thinking that it was a problem. Fyi anytime you unplug that pump there is an alarm at the nurses station that they have to silence. That pump is electronically connected to a server and gives off a signal. I have worked for many hospitals and clinics and I have never seen one that isn't, and that data can be used in court.

  • http://sandrarose.com SandraRose

    In the video, out of his own mouth, he said he asked his doctor and nurse if he could leave. Someone off camera says, "I just spoke to Jen. She said she did not give you permission to leave the hospital." Then Shaquille says, "But nobody says we were leaving. That's the point."

  • Vonda K

    I’ve been hospitalized and Dr and nurse did care where I went because if something happens it’s a lawsuit. Also, depending on your health situation it is their duty to make sure your healthy enough to walk any distance without assistance. So thankful for good hospitals and caring staff.

  • Vonda K

    Thank you for sense.
    Nurses can’t even change meal plan in hospital without consulting with Dr.

  • Carla B

    Nope. The nurse was never at her station so when I did leave she wouldn't know and when I came back she was busy and didn't check on me until several hours later. If you are not in the ICU, or coming from a surgical unit they don't monitor you closely. The damn nurses aide will come by more than the RN.

  • Vonda K

    Thank you.
    He has double new pneumonia and trying go hang out and smoke?
    If Shaquille and Marquant don’t go sit thrir a$&& down somewhere.
    He got his 15 minutes of fame.

  • http://sandrarose.com SandraRose

    That must be new technology. As a RN, I've worked in hospitals for over 20 years in multiple states, and I've never heard of IV pumps alarming at the nursing station.

    Edit: That would be a liability if a nurse could silence the pump at the nursing station without going to see why the pump alarm is sounding.

  • Allihave2say
  • Carla B

    Thats if you are a fall risk aka yellow and red bands and if you are there is an alarm connected to your bed and anytime you move in a certain way that alarm goes off.

  • http://sandrarose.com SandraRose

    I don't know what hospital you were in and I don't want to know. ?

  • Allihave2say
  • GAPeach

    That's putting it mildly. She said, what she said, and you better not question her.

  • Ryan

    I was gonna say this whole thing is a reach!!

  • Allihave2say

    Especially when you have pneumonia. I had bacterial and viral pneumonia at the same time. Only thing I got straight was doctor said "if the antibiotics are working by the 3rd week I'm admitting you". I remember saying, "I'm not going in the hospital. Every pneumonia patient I know never came home".

    However that condition had me so messed up I couldn't think or do anything for about a month. Who has time or interest in reading all that crap and who had the conversation with him at intake? Was it the check-in person, the ER Nurse or Doctor, the billing specialist, the charge nurse,or the lab tech? Who will they identify is the person that had this discussion with me. Two things we know for sure is the Security guard and the nurse did ot.

  • Being bad is way more fun

    He sure does have an incredible amount of energy to be walking off grounds and all around the hospital with double pneumonia ??

  • Listen2Me

    ? ?Drip too hard, don't stand too close
    You gon' fuck around and drown off this wave......
    I don't care where I go,…?
    ___________________________________
    Looks like he took DRIP TOO HARD....literally!! ?? (jokes folks)!
    I’m actually on his side.

  • Carla B

    I have really good insurance and I only go to one of the best hospitals in the medical center aka a level 5 trauma center I would name names but I know better. This situation should not have escalated to this degree and wish people would stop calling the cops for minor things.

  • Listen2Me

    Ok

  • Alextra Ballard

    I’ve been in the hospital a few times and I’ve also been a visitor countless times. Yew see patients walk the hospital halls with their IV pump,I’ve also seen some patients outside with their family/friends enjoying lunch/dinner with their IV pump....but never have I heard leaving hospital grounds with your IV pump in tow until tidday. Those overzealous racist cop were wrong for asking him was he going tew sell the pump on “ EBay” as one article mentioned.

  • http://sandrarose.com SandraRose

    You are contradicting yourself. Have a good weekend.

  • Carla B

    Sandra when was the last time your butt was on shift at any hospital. Not 1 RN that I know has time for a blog or commenting on a blog. I have PNP, NP, and a LPN that I am very close with and they all said that this was blown out of proportion.

  • Ryan

    "yes understood but how far did they think he was going without his clothes and bank card hun?"

    ^This. All of those people who work on that floor - at least a few of them saw him and didn't think anything of it cause people do walk around/go outside with the IV cause most folks are PROBABLY not gonna yank the needle from their arm. Somebody overreacted and didn't use common sense and it escalated. "Some" get so caught up in their hate for black folks that it clouds their thinking, trying to justify this sh!t show without just admitting this was stupid and unnecessary.

  • Shamwow

    Policy my arse. Having been fkd over by a hospital. I understand being ready to go. I remember being in a hospital I hated around the time of my injury. The minute they moved me into another area closer to home. I planned and dreamed about leaving. For the first 24 hours I was minutes from being out that door. Thank goodness I only stayed one day before the transfer. Cause a bih like me would’ve been on the first ride home. This was way before Uber and gps freedom. But I don’t blame dude. https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/32fec81e4e5669432efc2c8f6de75cde8c431cf5dedf219610b53f7cf1845d8a.jpg

    ??kidding but this the image I envision of him walking away . Lol

  • Allihave2say

    This gentleman is well-spoken, articulate, and educated. They will have a hard time pulling the sheets over his eyes.

  • Carla B

    Infusion pumps are connected to back-end servers hosting patient databases and to other healthcare applications aka smart pumps. Please ask your Nurse director or better yet your IT guy in the hospital that you "work" in. Everything you do in a hospital is monitored and smart pumps reduce medication errors.

  • Question Everything

    Dear wipipo...can we live????

  • Bushbabe

    Here we go with the village idiot trying to justify his stupidity on the network that has no credibility.

  • DroneRivers

    I can definitely see how something could go wrong and the doctor/hospital would be liable.

  • DroneRivers

    Fox interviewed him?

  • Shamwow

    They not going to stand behind anything that’s not in the notes. They didn’t think he would do it and hospitals dgaf passed the amount of f’s they budgeted for the day.

  • dontgetblocked

    Why the hell... What the hell... How the hell was this fool walking around with an IV with pnuemonia. I'm done.

  • Robert lee Bennett OG

    Hey I’m just stating the obvious... it would have made for a better headline if they said AIDS. And I’m a Child if God please don’t curse at me. Thanks

  • E Ethel Ballys

    My nephew was a high school custodian and he often had to work with students who were on punishment. He used to tell me this. You can tell a white boy or a Latin child to do something. They will complain but will do it. However a black boy will say f* this and f* that, showing no respect and refusing to do as they are told. Time and time again we see black ppl getting involved in scuffles with police for this very reason.

  • Zeta Aggie

    Please. That’s why every major tv show showed docile obedient lids just like Roseanne. Whatever

  • Renee26

    Stuck in here for the weekend?? ?

  • E Ethel Ballys

    What is a “lid”

  • 1BlueStar

    Sorry, but i didnt even read the entire write up...Im puzzled as to why him walking ANYWHERE other than in the hospital halls hooked to a damn IV is not cause for concern??

  • Alextra Ballard

    If he could walk and leave the grounds with dubba pneumonia...he might as well unhook the machine and go home.

  • MrsSpice1

    Lmao... knowing the cost of just stepping into a hospital..I would’ve dipped too ?maybe not with the iv...?

  • Ni Ni

    We lived with my grandma for a while as kids. Her bed was in the living room. Our room was the actual bedroom. Boys in one bed and girls in the other. We'd go visit one of her friends and they'd have a bed in the living room too. We was po?, but those were good times.

  • Bee jaay Cee

    Nah! My strong willed daughter who has her own business left the hospital after a c section to sneak home and do office work. Had her car parked right there and smooth up and left, then returned.

  • Ni Ni

    Ikr, i haven't felt like doing anything, just bouncing channels and internet surfing. Watched a little Gunsmoke, tried to wait on a decent hour to drink. I guess Sandra is tied.

  • Carla B

    @Sandra why are you deleting your comments? Was it because I didn't agree with you and provided information to back up my statement?

  • CoTToNCaNDie SWeeTAsGolD

    Sandra done left us in here fah dead!! *in my momma dee voice*

  • SaltineCrackers

    ? bye y'all!

  • Soda

    ?

  • Li-Wright

    I agree with your nephew. I'm in the public schools and black boys about the 4th grade start becoming "resistant" to going to school. I don't know why that is. Maybe in the genes?

  • Carla B

    Yesssss. I don't think she liked our dialogue ?

  • GAPeach

    I absolutely LOVED going to my grandmothers. She was country as hell, and my mama was bougie, so we could do all kinds of stuff we couldn't do at home. She had a porch, and the roof above it was flat. We used to climb out on that roof and just sit and laugh in the summertime. The neighbors used to pop the fire hydrant so we could get "wet". Man, I'm having a serious case of nostalgia.

  • Li-Wright

    He can't sue. Because there's probably a hospital policy that he broke.

  • Russiancreme

    You was actually tlkn to the interns. They was doing alot in the comment section today lol.

  • ?Patty Kakes?

    This could have been handle better. The patient may have been wrong put the security guard and the police just seem to have something against him. If it had been a white person they would have simply said you can't take hospital equipment off the property you need to get back to the hospital. This would have went totally different if it was three white boys

  • Chicagowise

    A gay man diagnosed with double pneumonia, sounds like troubling.

  • ClaireHuxtable

    L0l@ Watched a little Gunsmoke! I hate I missed Rifleman today.

  • Miss Thang

    It’s not as long as the nurse and/or physician have him permission ?????

  • Miss Thang

    I can’t drink anymore. I guess I’m too old. All it does it make me sleep ?

  • KarmaBackAround

    Okayyyyy! Damm the rest , hes n trouble.

  • Miss Thang

    Lol

  • ClaireHuxtable

    She could have really hurt herself and had to stay in the hospital longer.

  • Miss Thang

    The hospital and nurse will lie if it is not documented in the chart that he was given permission.

  • Miss Thang

    Maybe because he left all his personal belonging including ID and credit cards in his hospital room? Plus the fact that he willingly obeyed the security guard?

  • Miss Thang

    Lol

  • Chicagowise

    I want to know if he had bacterial pneumonia or pneumocystis pneumonia. The latter is commonly seen in HIV positive patients.

  • ClaireHuxtable

    All totaled that may have only come to $33.11. However, his boyz may have already found a buyer for the pump.

  • Ghetto Real Name

    Fukk you and your white ass nephew.

  • Alextra Ballard

    Yep,she done did it agin!!!?

  • SaltineCrackers

    LOL!

  • ClaireHuxtable

    These clowns aren't deep. Smoke & steal the pump.

  • SaltineCrackers

    He probably can sue, he almost died in the back of the squad car.

  • Chicagowise

    Gunsmoke! Matt Dillion and Ms. Kitty! I love old black and white shows. The camp and overly dramatic acting is hilarious!

  • Ni Ni

    Me too. I started about an hour ago and I'm fighting sleep. I dont want to go to sleep cause it's still light outside...a contrast from my younger days. Getting old sucks!

  • Chicagowise

    On the legal side of this story, the hospital and the police department are going to pay for this stupid decision. The security guard is on camera saying, he didn't care if the patient was returning to the hospital, he still wanted the patient charged with theft.

  • Ni Ni

    I love the Rifleman. I started watching Bonanaza back in college when i couldn't afford cable. I had a crush on the guy who wore the black vests all the time. It wasn't little joe or hoss( i cant remeber his name). I started watching. Gunsmoke about a year ago.. My 80 yr old uncle used to talk about it all the time. It's a pretty good show.

  • Alextra Ballard

    I shol hope not??

  • Ni Ni

    It is! Festus is my favorite character.

  • Carla B

    LMAO Dang the intern's are doing too much. @THEREALSANDRA ?

  • Alextra Ballard

    I ? Rifleman

  • Ni Ni

    Ikr, if only we could go back.

  • Y’all Jealous Cuz I’m Prudy

    It is.

  • E Ethel Ballys

    Oh kiss my azz funky lookin bich

  • Ni Ni

    Ms. Kitty sounds like she smoked 10 packs a day.

  • Y’all Jealous Cuz I’m Prudy

    I always would ask for two gowns. One to go on backwards (buttocks possibly out) and one facing the front (,covering the buttocks area. One can never be too careful when walking those drafty halls and having flirting roommates family members in the vicinity.

  • ClaireHuxtable

    If you ever hear that I went to jail for stealing...it was at least $143million USDs.

  • ClaireHuxtable

    Adam. And don't forget Hop Sing.
    "Bonanza is an American western television series that ran on NBC from 1959 to 1973. Lasting 14 seasons and 431 episodes, Bonanza is NBC's longest-running western, and ranks overall as the second-longest-running western series on U.S. network television (behind CBS's Gunsmoke), and within the top 10 longest-running, live-action American series." - Wiki

  • ClaireHuxtable

    Poor lil Mark had no momma. I wanted Lucas to marry.

  • Ni Ni

    Yes, Adama. Alright be good. Im out, tired of correcting my words. Im going to bed, i cain't hang. ?

  • Soda

    Lol! You know Ethel ain't doing nothing but trying to start some b.s. She's as old as that Betsy Ross flag and yearns for the days of old when darkies knew their place.?

  • ClaireHuxtable

    Take a nap, Doll. See you after while...

  • keviethedreamer

    Happens all the time. Most patients just want to go outside and smoke. I’ve never seen a hospital make such a big deal about a patient stepping off of their property, tho. This sounds more like they had it out for the patient to me.

  • Patricia

    the rap music

  • Patricia

    its social conditioning via hiphop music and television. black men are taught to be ruthless thugs and assholes.

  • keviethedreamer

    If only healthcare were that simple. ?

  • keviethedreamer

    You should let your nurse know that you’re leaving temporarily, tho. Technically the doctor would’ve needed to put an order in that said he was allowed to ambulate and leave the unit in the first place. The nurse is the one who is truly liable and responsible for you. If he were my patient I’d be concerned if he wasn’t in his room and I didn’t know where he was.

  • keviethedreamer

    I do when I have an admission. I clearly tell them that if you leave the room I need to know where you are and when you will be back, and I explain the facility’s policy on leaving the unit.

  • Reille Vander

    i won’t watch the video. i just took my blood pressure medicine i don’t want to get mad.

  • Patricia

    why not send his bro or friend? what the hell are they there for if not to walk accross the street and be supportive.

  • keviethedreamer

    No, that’s for every patient in general. The nurse needs to know where their patient is. Anything could happen to their patient when they leave their room and the liability falls on that nurse more than anyone else because they are the closest thing to the patient.

  • Reille Vander

    true story, a coworker of mine who is white, was in hospital for a minor surgery, he didn’t want to stay and his wife convinced him to stay overnight just to be sure, to make this long story short, he went outside to smoke a cigarette and was practically dragged by security back in and had guards at his room. he filed a lawsuit and lost despite it being his right to check out even tho he went out side for a smoke .

  • Patricia

    very dangerous

  • Patricia

    definitely an attention seeker by all counts

  • keviethedreamer

    I’ve been an RN for 9 years and I’ve never worked in a facility that alerts you about an IV at the nurses’ station. The only way you know an IV is beeping is if you hear it from the desk and go in to the patient’s room to check on it. I’ve also never encountered an alarm when you unplug an IV pump. That usually only happens if the IV pump is low on battery.

  • keviethedreamer

    If all this ain’t the truth!! ?

  • keviethedreamer

    It would be so much easier if people who came to the hospital would just sit their asses in bed and stay there until they get better but unfortunately a lot of people want to be contrary and insist on leaving their rooms; and with the “The customer is always right” mentality that most businesses have, we as nurses are sometimes forced to allow patients to do things that aren’t the best for them. Usually when a patient leaves their unit they have to sign a waiver, tho.

  • TheOwley

    Over reach does not even begin to explain this. He was a patient, not a criminal. If he violated a hospital policy, arresting him was way OTT. In any case, the hospital should have come to his rescue and told everyone he is their patient who left without permission perhaps but no need to arrest. Well, they arrested him for leaving. They will now say they arrested him for attempt to steal the IV pump. Good luck making that stick, he was coming back into the hospital. He has a legit lawsuit. The above reads the standard things typically communicated to a patient. It does not mean the staff took the time to actually communicate these things instructions to him. IMO they have legal liability here.

  • Ghetto Real Name

    Bloop.

  • Ghetto Real Name

    See below. I said at Wake Med main on New Bern Ave. I have seen folks with pic lines. In gowns. And yes an occasional IV/oxy tank all at the CVS and Walgreens across the street. Maybe we got diff. laws here. Im not sure. But this is not uncommon for us here. And everyone seems OKAY.

  • http://batman-news.com Roderick2011

    Good for you.

  • Zeta Aggie

    Lol kids

  • ???

    Is the boudin man still at Carringtons lol

  • HoneyHitchcock

    You would think that they would wait until he was released from the hospital to be formally charge him with theft. Even when people murder someone and are admitted into the hospital, they don’t formally charge them until they’re released.

  • HoneyHitchcock

    Moral of the story. The white man was escorted back to his bed.

  • ?Patty Kakes?

    It makes you wonder what has happened in hospitals fot them to act that way

  • Not Today

    She died of aids, could be why

  • Leggs1018

    As an attorney, this is clearly an act of malfeasance on the part of the hospital administration and their hired help-the security guard.
    Although, the intent was never established there should have been enough cameras to depict whether or not this person was attempting to leave without proper discharge or merely getting some fresh air.
    I’ve not known many sane people that purposely leave their belongings in the confounds of a shared hospital room and just take off with said equipment still attached to oneself, but I digress.

  • Carrington

    Every Friday. Is. ?

  • Chicagowise

    Authorities have a tendency to be heavy-handed with certain people.

  • AveIvy

    Actually, it was great for me and will continue to be. Hope it's the same for you.

  • AveIvy

    Thank you for making plain for those all the way in the back. I ain't never heard of any occurrence where you were not allowed to walk outside the hospital. BTW, I hope your parents are doing better now.

  • AveIvy

    If you aren't already, I would suggest you become an attorney because that is an excellent point. He returned, so that eliminates the dumb security guard's theory that he was stealing.

  • SpiceGirl

    This is BS and we all know it! I work in a hospital...and folks take walks ALL the time. In fact...they encourage you to get up and out (if you can) You know how many folks I see around outside with....Wheelchairs, IV's etc? A LOT!

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    tried to wait on a decent hour to drink

    ???

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  • wigmon68

    THEY LEFT THE HOSPITAL. yes, you can with a nurse/doctors permission leave your room and walk around the grounds of some hospitals. you can't take your walk (with hospital hardware) off the property.

  • wigmon68

    when you are checked in, they are responsible for your health and actions. not much different than a day care, so their concern is about lawsuits that would occur if something happened while under their care.

  • SpiceGirl

    If your hooked up to an IV and your a smoker....I've seen PLENTY of folks doing that....Wheelchairs as well.

  • Ni Ni

    Oh my!?

  • Chapter29Chick

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  • ???

    Lmao I miss those joints. Frenchies, Timmy Chan’s, Breakfast Club...

  • Ghetto Real Name

    Awe thanks. My mama is still kicking it. 70 years young, two time breast cancer survivor. Still talking shit, taking names, mom of 3, granny to 5, great granny to 1 and keeping her brood in damn LINE lmaooo. My dad is no longer here and we miss him. But he had too much going on health wise, for a LONG time (had one kidney from 1985 til he left here 2 years ago) so it was for the best I feel. Took me a LONG time to get to "that place" with it. But God doesnt make any mistakes.

  • Elevated Soul

    This is just another greedy homosexual trying to get paid. Granted I have never been in the hospital but I have visited people there and I never saw patients walking outside. They make walk the halls of a hospital,but not outside.

    Sounds like he got that "Jussie Smollett" syndrome.Luke Justin,he is trying to make this about race.I'm surprised he hasn't made this about his sexuality but then again,it would explain the double pneumonia to those in the cheap seats....Also why would a double pneumonia patient (HIV) put others at risk to get double pneumonia....

  • Elevated Soul

    This is just another greedy homosexual trying to get paid.Granted I have never been in the hospital but I visited people there and never saw patients walking outside with hospital equipment.They may walk the halls of a hospital,but not outside.

    He got that "Jussie Smollett" syndrome.Like Justin Smollett,he's trying to make this about race.I'm shocked he hasn't made this about his sexuality but then again,it would explain the double pneumonia to those in the cheap seats....Also why would a double pneumonia patient (HIV) put others at risk to get double pneumonia...

  • CeCe

    Why is he walking outside of the hospital still hooked up to an IV? That is never allowed. Yes, you can walk the halls if the doctor orders, however, you cannot go outside in public connected to medical equipment. Did the cops accuse him of stealing medical equipment? If they did, that is 100% wrong! I don't believe this has anything to do with race.

  • http://batman-news.com Roderick2011

    Exactly. Follow the doctor's order if you want to get better.

  • Strappyheels

    ??????????

  • Bee jaay Cee

    Of course it is. Did I mention that she is an Aries?

  • Jussjess25

    Exactly !

  • Stl_heat

    Ummmm actually you can. I work at the VA and patients be all outside smoking in front of the hospital and out back in the smoke shack with IV pole in tow?.

  • Lynette Collins

    Totally agree. I left to get some sun and fresh air, I didn't have anyone hounding me or harassing me (thank goodness) or even explain their policy as far as leaving the grounds to me.

  • Rhyme and Reason

    Hard to watch! I know we are treated differently, and not given the same consideration or presumed innocence or humanity as non-blacks! We’re not Americans nor Human, in their eyes!

    Yes, some will say, he was confrontational, but they can somehow take down mass shooters w/o incidence! I believe law enforcement, even security guards should be respected, but DUDE WAS WALKING BACK to the hospital, PER SECURITY!

    Dear White Americans, you can’t have back your lives circa 1800s or Jim Crow!

  • AveIvy

    Awe. God bless you.

  • MRiGOThim

    they do that here in Dallas too...especially at the VA & county hospitals :P

  • lovelygamour

    people walk on hospital grounds with iv`s all the time. so the hospital security guard shouldve let them walk back into the hospital. if that patient wasnt allowed outside its for his nurse/dr to address not security. I think security got suspicious about those gay gays or maybe thought the patient had hiv/ads and freaked out about him not being in the hospital.

    i think this guy is going to get paid some money maybe not alot. if the patient told the truth then the hospital security took him off hospital grounds. to law enforcement its not thief until you leave the premises. even with thief the cop shouldve let him walk away. if it wasnt 3 guys this wouldve been resolved better. I also think the cop got scared since the guy was basically talking lawsuit terms.

    to bad the reporter did name the hospital. maybe sandra really does have interns.

  • Allihave2say

    It's not what they say but what they can prove. Are there clear signs posted. Did he pass the guard on the way out or even the nurses or doctors in the hospital who should have seen him leaving with a gown and IV drip. Who gave him the speech on the rules as they say he was told etc.

  • Elexa88

    What I don't understand is if you have a double pneumonia, why are you taking a walk outside ? Shouldn't you be in bed getting better ? Also. Why not ask to be unhooked from the machine, then take a walk , but where are you walking to? If I was sick, I'm sure the last thing on my mind would be to go walking. Him being black, to me isn't the problem, he is sick and he is possibly endangered others and his self. To me engagering others is more important. No one is even taking that into consideration.

  • Reille Vander

    i know. patients aren’t prisoners.

  • Reille Vander

    true.

  • Reille Vander

    people go home with iv ports all the time.

  • Reille Vander

    they don’t even deserve a response.

  • Reille Vander

    i had pneumonia one time and no fever. i only found out because i had sharp pains in my side, thought maybe kidney stones, went to hospital and it was pneumonia. got an iv of pain meds, put on z pack and discharged. i had NO FEVER.

  • Reille Vander

    reminds of jordan miles story.

  • SingleGalCrazyWorld

    Double pneumonia is no joke...my cousin had in about 10 years back and she lost a bunch of weight and was delirious...she could barely walk or talk let along leave the hospital where she was for two weeks...IDK something seems off about this story....

  • wigmon68

    Of of hospital property?

  • SpiceGirl

    Yes...I've seen folks walking AROUND the hospital.....We don't have smoking on campus...so IF your a smoker....you have to go to the designated area for that. I just don't see somebody who is hooked to and IV would want to steal it!

  • Trace da Ace

    welp....I find no fault on the police nor hospital part....he should not have left the hospital...PERIOD. You have a condition that alot of folks die from....yet you walking around outside like it is nothing......and the fact that he was still hooked up to the IV pump...well....that IS stealing..especially if they figured you discharged yourself.....this is not a case of racial profiling...but stupidity....do better dude...do better.

  • wigmon68

    I'm confused. There is a designated area off the hospital property (out of their jurisdiction) for smoking? Who designated the area?

  • Lady” Youngblood

    This gay dude is dying, most likely from aids since he has all the symptoms and they are clearly angry gay dudes. And stealing equipment so they can inject themselves. Just my thoughts ??

  • Patricia

    makes sense. im an aries and had both of mine all natural and was up ready to discharge the same day. worked for my son as i delivered him at 6:30am and was discharged after 3pm, but, my daughter was jaundiced and they said we had to stay another day.

    aries dont like feeling weak or powerless, we always have to be in control.

  • SpiceGirl

    They wanted to keep the smokers away from the hospital....ALL the hospitals here do it! It use to be.....folks would smoke right out front.....Women that are pregnant and non smokers had to walk right through the folks who would be out smoking.....Remember, this is a BIG campus...so yes...there is a designated area just for smokers. The hospital owns the area...its just AWAY from general public per sey

  • wigmon68

    Maybe that is the case in your hospital, but that is not what the article above states. IT specifically says they left the hospital grounds.

  • Mrs. S. O.

    People walk *around* the hospital, not across the street. He probably was trying to steal like so many ghetto sissies do...smdh