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Judge Tammy Kemp was a guest on The Tamron Hall Show on Thursday, Oct. 10. The embattled judge came under fire for hugging former Dallas cop Amber Guyger after she was found guilty of killing 26-year-old accountant Botham Jean in his own apartment.

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In previous interviews Kemp defended her behavior, saying Guyger asked her twice for a hug. Kemp also said she gave Guyger her personal Bible because the 31-year-old promised to return it after she completes her 10-year prison sentence.

Kemp’s court bailiff was also criticized for appearing to comfort Guyger by primping her hair in the courtroom.

When Hall asked Kemp to explain the bailiff’s actions, Kemp said “Guyger had been found guilty of murder… and we were on a lunch break. However, I couldn’t send her to the jail to be frisked. So we asked a female bailiff to stay with her throughout the lunch break. And if you know anything about the jail, you gotta search every part of a person, including their hair.”

But critics of the judge and the bailiff say officers never conduct searches for razor blades or other contraband with their bare hands.