A 28-year-old Bronx man who felt pressured by his high school sweetheart into marrying her, took his own life hours after the wedding.
Fernando Brazier left a suicide note at the front desk of the Radisson Hotel in New Rochelle, New York, where he married 26-year-old Trudian Hay the day before. His wedding ring was inside the envelope, according to Mr. Brazier’s sister Shawna Weeks.
“He said he couldn’t take anymore, and to take care of his kids,” she told the NY Post.
Police recovered Brazier’s body at the bottom of the Harlem River — where his suicide note indicated he would be.
Police say he jumped either from a building or the promenade behind it. No foul play is suspected.
Brazier and Hay met in high school. They had two daughters together. Brazier, whose parents were divorced, wanted a stable home for his daughters.
Family members said Brazier suffered from depression in the months leading up to the wedding.
“He would tell me that Trudy was a good person [but] he didn’t want to marry her; he was feeling like he was pressured,” Ms. Weeks told the NY Post.
Brazier was last seen leaving the Radisson Hotel around 9 a.m. on Sunday. Hotel staff saw him climb into a taxi after leaving the note. Family members said Brazier did not seem distressed during the wedding reception on Saturday.
Bullllll. The demon is a liar … to check out for being pressured
Naija black males have some of the highest rates of suicide unfortunately.
No insurance for the kids. Sad.
suicide is a coward move
Why do people feel they “have” to do things like this…be a man and dont get married for convience.
THE GRANDEST NARCISSISTIC ACT OF ALL
HE KILLS HIMSELF AND BLAMES HER, SO NOW HE WANTS HER TO LIVE WITH HER ALLEGEDLY CAUSING HIS DEATH IN FRONT OF THE WHOLE WORLD & DEALING WITH AND EXPLAINING IT TO THEIR CHILDREN
SELFISH-ARRGGGHHH
SATAN I REBUKE U!!!!!
Oh my! When I hear of suicides I immediately think of that person burning in hell for all eternity. So sad!
No insurance for the kids. Sad.
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I know. Suicide automatically voids any life insurance he had. It’s sad but also angering that he didn’t think about his children. Why do people forget that they have a mind that can make decisions?
Saying I don’t want to marry you isn’t that hard
Damn, he REALLY didn’t want to be with her. Weak.
INTENSEMOCHA THE ANTAGONIST says:
THE GRANDEST NARCISSISTIC ACT OF ALL
HE KILLS HIMSELF AND BLAMES HER, SO NOW HE WANTS HER TO LIVE WITH HER ALLEGEDLY CAUSING HIS DEATH IN FRONT OF THE WHOLE WORLD & DEALING WITH AND EXPLAINING IT TO THEIR CHILDREN
SELFISH-ARRGGGHHH
SATAN I REBUKE U!!!!!
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So in order to escape he kills himself and ruins countless other lives????
I will never understand suicide…
HE DID EXACTLY WHAT HE WANTED TO DO, PUNISH THOSE HE LEFT BEHIND -INDEFINITELY
NARCISSIST ARE VERY VERY COLD-HEARTED & CALCULATIING
This is crazy and sad all wrapped in one. R.I.P. Mr. Brazier and family.
Now she has to live with somebody would rather be die and abandon their children than to be married to her
Posche says:
Oh my! When I hear of suicides I immediately think of that person burning in hell for all eternity. So sad!
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Wow that was extra… to the
with that
Family members said Brazier did not seem distressed during the wedding reception on Saturday.
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“…PUNISH THOSE HE LEFT BEHIND…”
I agree. Very “noah bish. Ive got the last laugh”
SOOOOOO cold and calculating! Now the kids blame her, his parents, etc.!
Even the preacher knew……
selfish..just selfish
<—smdh
what a legacy to leave for his children
scrolls up to read…hold on
well dayum, was it that bad?
I don’t believe the statistics about black men having a high suicide rate. But to jump your ass out the window after getting married? Do Black men really oppose marriage this much? This is just a new low…
I’m lost for anything postive to say…..There is more to this than just depression.
Yeah, he was wrong for doing it, but she was wrong for trying to make a house and a home with a depressed security guard. Was marriage THAT important? She’s all happy faced in the pic and TOTALLY oblivious that he doesn’t even want to be doing this. If he could talk he’d probably say, “OK you had your precious wedding. Happy NOW?” I just can’t feel too sympathetic. I try, but I can’t.
Zoe B. says:
Now she has to live with somebody would rather be die and abandon their children than to be married to her
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Like what kind of crazy bish is she?
If he suffered from depression it is something that can be so deep no one can understand, my heart goes out to the family. Depression can make you do things you thought you would never do, its sad that he didnt think his life was worth anything and he left children behind which makes it worse.
I DON’T THINK THIS INCIDENT IMPLIES ANY SORT OF CONSENSUS FOR ALL OR EVEN A PORTION OF BLACK MEN IN REGARDS TO MARRIAGE
THIS IS ONE INDIVIDUAL WHO WAS OBVIOUSLY TROUBLED WHO DECIDED TO TAKE HIS LIFE, THE IRONY IS HE DID SO AT A TIME THAT MOST BELIEVE A NEW CHAPTER OF THEIR LIVES HAS JUST BEGAN & ARE VERY HAPPY AND HOPEFUL FOR THE FUTURE, IT’S TRAGIC THAT HE “CHOSE” THIS PARTICULAR TIME TO KILL HIMSELF & THAT IN ITSELF MAKES THIS SITUATION QUITE UNIQUE AND THAT MUCH MORE DISTURBING!!!!
damn! keep this on the low low or this might start a trend. at least he did himself instead of them.
we need to start putting the marriage before the children people….
I know. Suicide automatically voids any life insurance he had
actually my cousin commited sucidie and the insurance paid her son her death benefits, its usually after 3/4 years it doesnt matter how you die..
dude,
, shoulda just told everybody to kick rocks and not married this chick if it was THAT serious…sounds like he had some other stuff going on along with this…
C’MON NOW NOBODY CAN MAKE SOMEONE KILL THEMSELVES
THAT’S EXACTLY WHAT THIS MAN WANTS PEOPLE TO DO, BELIEVE SOMEONE ELSE LEAD HIM TO TAKE HIS LIFE
ARE YOU SERIOUS????GTFOH, HE HIMSELF MADE THAT DECISION THIS IS A MENTAL HEALTH ISSUE TO SAY THE LEAST
This is crazy when I read the title I was hoping he killed himself with at least money left for the family
I dont get Suicide Either and I agree with Posche 
Damn talk about the ulitimate guilt trip. You go through with the marriage and then kill yoself. Geesh well at least he didnt kill her and the kids also.
Wow! Sad story all the way around. But on a completely different note, dude must have been going through some things because he looks WAAYY older than 28. RIP!
and for the record, I really think that folks should not adhere to “pressure” to get married. Years ago my father was pressured into marrying his long time girlfriend. Her parents were strong in the church and she had like 3 kids from a previous marriage and was living with my dad. He was not ready to marry her but he did it anyway and that chit ended SO tragically. It didn’t even last a year…
If he suffered from depression it is something that can be so deep no one can understand, my heart goes out to the family. Depression can make you do things you thought you would never do, its sad that he didnt think his life was worth anything and he left children behind which makes it worse.
Really sad tho! Such a blessed well not in this case but really cray!
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Yeah I can’t call him selfish or otherwise just wish he was stronger and had more self love
at least he did himself instead of them.
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Sad but true!
That’s AWFUL…he didn’t have much love for her to put her through this…so sad!
AND FOR THE RECORD YOU CAN’T MAKE NOBODY DO ISH
IF THAT WAS THE CASE WE ALL WOULD BE MARRIED BEFORE HAVING KIDS, ALL NON PARTICIPATING & MIA DADDIES WOULD BE INVOLVED IN THEIR CHILDREN’S LIVES
IF WE HAVE THE POWER TO MAKE THEM KILL THEMSELVES, WOULDN’T WE HAVE THE SAME POWER TO MAKE THEM DO ANYTHING ELSE, I’M JUST SAYING?!?!
TWO PEOPLE HAVE TO CONSENT AND SIGN TO BE MARRIED-C’MON SON
Are they blind? That person looks like the walking dead in the above photo
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@Zoe…LOL…I thought that dude was her daddy or uncle, and not the husband. He really look stressed and aged too.
@Afiya-he didnt love himself let alone somebody else.
His age has to be a misprint daym that I can see 38 or 48 or 58 but 28???
@Chgoprime, there is ample research if youd like to know more. I didnt just spout that. And “males” includes a large percentage of teens. We all know teens arent “fully formed” and suicide happens…deppression is powerful. Imagine what it can do to teens and then adults when left unchecked.
Wow just wow imagine how the wife feels
guilt is all he left her with 
I dont think it had anything to do with the marriage.
Depression is an illness like others…if left to fester and sore…
How was he forced? and if he was already depress why marry her?
And i agree drepresion is a dam beast if u have no support or just dont have that back bone to get thru it
I don’t know what to say about this post…So I don’t think I’m a say anything at the moment.
I was just about to begin lurking and saw this. I feel bad that he felt strongly enough to kill himself BUT pressure to get married???? WTF!
He couldn’t even do that since he decided to take his own life and leave them with no money…………..
I understand you don’t have to marry everyone that you pop children with, but you have been w/her since high school, had 2 children w/her and was living together…..I MEAN, WHY WOULDN’T SHE WANT TO GET MARRIED?! She was prolly thinking “we’re acting like we’re married!” Then to leave “take care of my kids” in his note!!!!
I.JUST.CAN’T!
INTENSEMOCHA THE ANTAGONIST says:
AND FOR THE RECORD YOU CAN’T MAKE NOBODY DO ISH
IF THAT WAS THE CASE WE ALL WOULD BE MARRIED BEFORE HAVING KIDS, ALL NON PARTICIPATING & MIA DADDIES WOULD BE INVOLVED IN THEIR CHILDREN’S LIVES
IF WE HAVE THE POWER TO MAKE THEM KILL THEMSELVES, WOULDN’T WE HAVE THE SAME POWER TO MAKE THEM DO ANYTHING ELSE, I’M JUST SAYING?!?!
TWO PEOPLE HAVE TO CONSENT AND SIGN TO BE MARRIED-C’MON SON
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Why are men so afraid of commitment? What woman wants to be a girlfriend for 20 years? Yeah, I bet she pressured him…pressured him to grow the hell up.
me either yso, that’s why i’m just eatin the Thanksgiving lunch and watching
This is heartbreaking…. The wife will have to live with the guilt and have to deal with his family for causing his death and the children will suffer the most…. I pray for all involved…
I just can’t with this story. I have never dealt with anyone that suffered from depression, but to kill yourself, blame someone else, and leave them to pick up the broken pieces that you left, IMO is selfish.
Heyyyy Everybody
@Lake-yes and if everybody around you is beating you in your head telling you to marry a person and you are depressed it can lead to this. Again not taking up for him but if depression is left untreated this can be the end result.
(reaches over and steals some turkey off of CANDI’s lunch plate)
I wonder if she will be able to date after this cause if I knew that someone would rather die that be with you I would be hesitant.
Im speculating but maybe he wasn’t who she thought he was and he struggled with that
men don’t think the same as women…. they aren’t usually ready when women are ready. he probably wasn’t ready to be a father either but he did what he had to do.
then he’s got two sides of his family asking every day when are you going to marry her because it’s been x number of years of y’all shacking up. so one day he buys her a ring to shut everybody up and bam! she has it all planned out and it’s going to happen asap!
his money is tight, he has boucoup wedding expenses. she has a new attitude now that she is about to be a wife. and he suffers from depression. not wanting to disappoint anyone, he shows up for the wedding and goes through the motions.
everybody is all happy, dancing around and shyt but nobody pays attention to his feelings or needs. so he writes his lil letter and jumps off a building.
pure speculation on my part though…. i just feel for those little girls who need their father.
Heyyyyyyyy
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So sad, there has to be a underlying factor to this,
*faints* Is that Gypsy???
Choco!!!!!!
:2dance: Today I start my HOliday I was gonna come in tomorrow but woke up this morn and was like NAHHHHHHHH

You can’t be concerned for your children and leave them with this kind of legacy. If this woman has been a good woman, don’t leave this earth blaming her for your illness.
I have suffered from depression and I know that it can take you to some dark places. The thought of burning in hell was too much for me. Find a reason every day to live. Reach out for help.
FYI – Most private insurance have a suicide clause. If the suicide occurs within 2 years of getting the policy or altering the policy, they will not pay. It can take years to get the matter cleared up. If they don’t pay the full benefit, they can refund the premiums paid.
Employee based policies might pay. It varies.
BlackBeauti – Now that is a sexy gravi
I had a neighbor that killed his self,i was 14 and we were with his daughter. We ran up the street and heard a second gunshot,the son killed his self. People dont think of the people they leave behind. Her mom had depression issues and took her life when she was 3. Luckily at the age of 18 someone from her church took her in.
ashersaharai says:
So sad, there has to be a underlying factor to this,
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right. I wonder what the suicide note actually said. Couldnt he just have said no to her? did she blackmail him? #so many questions
Tatted says:
you have been w/her since high school, had 2 children w/her and was living together…..I MEAN, WHY WOULDN’T SHE WANT TO GET MARRIED?! She was prolly thinking “we’re acting like we’re married!”
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THAT is exactly why I refuse to “play house” with my bf. Negro don’t have no key and you got to leave when the alarm rings (and after we get it in). This is so sad…and I’ve said before SUICIDE is a SELFISH act. It affects EVERYBODY left behind INCLUDING THE PET FISH!
Lovely One says:
Why are men so afraid of commitment? What woman wants to be a girlfriend for 20 years? Yeah, I bet she pressured him…pressured him to grow the hell up.
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People do it all the time…what about people who separate and never divorce. My ex tried that crap…..
People sign ageements all the time, but don’t follow through.
OMG. mental disorders exist in the black community too. clearly.
*goestoseewhatsoutthere*
Hey everybody!
gypsyeyes – Sorry to hear that…
Mental disorders exist is all communities, social economic backgrounds, etc, etc…
“Suicide is a permanent solution to a temporary problem.”
Oh Wow.. All he had to say was “No”…
This is sad
gypsyeyes says: I had a neighbor that killed his self,i was 14 and we were with his daughter. We ran up the street and heard a second gunshot,the son killed his self. People dont think of the people they leave behind. Her mom had depression issues and took her life when she was 3. Luckily at the age of 18 someone from her church took her in.
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smh. do you know what ever happened to her?
@PHO
& anyone who thinks otherwise is delusional
OTB so purty
Is it off topic in here yet?
This is a sad story…my thoughts and prayers are with his family.
Him being pressured to be married is not an excuse, but at the same time, women, if a man does not want to marry you, stop trying to force him. If he decides he don’t want to get married and you want to get married, then be on your merry way and if you choose to say, then stay and deal with the fact that marriage is not on his agenda.
Turkey Is Disgusting !
Suicide doesn’t auto void insurance. Most life insurance policies have a 2 yr clause, meaning that the policyholder will get nothing if death by suicide occurs within 2 yrs of the effective date. After that, they’ll pay out as long as its not conflicting with anoter clause like in the commission of a felony, etc. (I work in that area of an insurance company).
Regardless…what a douche for his final act to be to basically place the blame on the wife. What a horrible thing to have to live with. How cowardly.
Hit def happens in the black community. A lot of times it is because we dont believe in therapy and seeking outside help. You know we dont want folks in our business.
@ Zoe B. My apologies, hun. I’m working on a new post as fast as I can!
@free. The family that took her in was very wealthy. Paid for her education,got married and had 2 boys.
candi
<—my plate (it's empty tho 


Pint-size
TaBew
Heeeeey Pryn – I’mm dance w/you ratt now anyway!!!
@AL
Don’t start.
#TurkeyLover
Oooops, Prynn – :2dance:
Heeey Fay Fay – MY REAL BAY BAY (again)
this story is a mess…
@ Yso Its freakishly Big And just wrong Nasty
@ohoney,i cant see gravis on my phone…name change?
FAYLA! why the fugg did I come on here late last night and see that fat starfish u had in ur gravi?
why was her HUGE vag in my face huh? WHY?
i hate u so hard 4 that shyt

this is just sad all around poor kids and wife
the guilt he left behind so evil and just sick!
HIS!
i had gravi madness yestaday n chit
i’s tryna do betta now tho

@Fay, im certain that 4giveness is not in our immediate future :nono
LakerLosa! :2dance:
*puts a fried chicken leg on fayla’s plate*
:hugs: @ Gypsy I forgot about you I did a doubletake
So he gave the ole Kim K. pressured excuse
Hey @choco. Had alot going on
Well damn! He didn’t want to marry her ass for-real. It’s gotta be more than that.
I hope all is better Gypsy!
*adds TX Pete to my chicken leg*
hes crazy because if doug can put up with jackie.. theres hope for all man kind
Thanks im sure it will. Mom had a major stroke and I had to get emergency surgery due to the surgeons mishap last year with my hernia repair.
Very sad story….feel for those kids though….
It’s been a week since Drake’s album dropped, where are the numbers?
Jay Bee says:
hes crazy because if doug can put up with jackie.. theres hope for all man kind
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Agree. I always wonder what is it about Jackie that Doug puts up w/her. I’ve convinced myself while she is planning a wedding every yr.(which he probably only shows up), it gives him time to drift.
gypsyeyes says: @free. The family that took her in was very wealthy. Paid for her education,got married and had 2 boys.
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oh great! i believe that people who grew up under suicidal parents tend to be more suicidal. i hope she has broken the cycle.
WOW, what a coward. He has two kids and he committed suicide because he had cold feet. This is horrible, poor babies.
*takes a bite of Faylas chicky leg*
mhm…but u put me through alot…my eyes dnt wanna be yo bew no mo!
(i said all o’ dat while chewing yo chicken too!)
Call me a cold muhfukka…but I laughed atthis story!
That fool said “Bish, Id RATHER DIE than stay with you!” and MEANT IT!!
A lotta niggas have said that sh*it, but non have meant it!!
Sh&t!!
(And I am literally at my desk laughing so hard, I’m crying! Father forgive me, but ya’ll know this sh*t is kinda funny!
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Anna says:
Jay Bee says:
hes crazy because if doug can put up with jackie.. theres hope for all man kind
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Agree. I always wonder what is it about Jackie that Doug puts up w/her. I’ve convinced myself while she is planning a wedding every yr.(which he probably only shows up), it gives him time to drift.
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Righttttt because shes a piece of work and agressive
High School Sweethearts… kids…marriage…honeymoon…SUICIDE?
Maybe he found out the kids weren’t his.
says:
did any hear/read about Lisa Raye being engaged to Mega Pastor Noel Jones? (Grace Jones brother)
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Does he look like Grace? Ppl w/money still chase after money? How Mega is the Church? Eddie Long Money? I’m going to lunch.
He said on camera that she was crazy, but she’s probably good to him? Good in bed…kitchen…good home maker…good with the kids?
@caligirl
Yeah, I heard about that…he’s like in his sixties or something…
“But on a completely different note, dude must have been going through some things because he looks WAAYY older than 28. RIP!”
DAMN he looks about 40
@DOUGIE
Only you.
@Dougie
I loves you girl, but I didn’t laugh at this story…
can we have a party? i mean dang its a holiday week (aka i’m bored at work bc i’m not starting anything until next week)
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Ecclesiastes 12:13
1 John 2: 3-6
1 John 5:3
2 John 1:6
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Revelation 12:17
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AllNYC says:

I have suffered from depression and I know that it can take you to some dark places. The thought of burning in hell was too much for me
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I suffered depression hardcore being pregnant. After I got preggo and moved on with my life, my Son’s sperm donor married his first baby’s Mom after she pressured, pushed, threatened, cajoled, etc.
He killed her a year later for her life insurance policy.
that Women wake up and not be so quick to marry someone whatever the reason.
I
@candi
*tries to lighten the mood in this thread*
Is that the couple in the picture? Because nothing about him says 28 to me! Take care of my kids. No fool you take care of your kids!
DID I come in the wrong room?
Dougie those kids have no Daddy. It’s not that funny.
@KyCakes
I stated up further in the threads that folks should not succumb to pressure or feel to need to pressure others into marriage. I know from experience that it is a VERY big step and shouldn’t be done in haste…
AND FOR your learning pleasure, those who commit suicide WILL BE GOING TO HELL ON RESURRECTION DAY.
Some can’t escape it because it was their fate to die that way anyway.
READ YOUR BIBLES TO GAIN UNDERSTANDING OF WHY THINGS HAPPEN.
Chgoprime says:
I don’t believe the statistics about black men having a high suicide rate. But to jump your ass out the window after getting married? Do Black men really oppose marriage this much? This is just a new low…
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Its a fact. Black men do have the highest right of suicide.
FeFe says:
@KyCakes
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Kinda yes, kinda no. He said he wanted to be with me and our Son. He called me on the phone after he dumped her body. Needless to see, I got dragged in deep. My Son and I had to go into Witness Protection, move and I had to testify at his trial. He got life w/ no parole for first degree pre-meditated murder. For the longest time, i was afraid of marriage and even being in a long term relationship aka, ‘You ain’t killing me for my policy, nicca’
But I have been blessed beyond measure with great jobs and not having to shack up with peen just to be able to make it.
*message* It’s always better to do you and keep it movin’. DO NOT settle for less then you deserve no matter WHAT the reason
@IRun/Fefe/Yso
It’s not funny that the kids are without a father or the woman is probably feeling all types of ways about him blaming HER for him being a pu$$y, but the fact that he was so lame as to kill himself and ask somebody else to look after his responsibilities because he just CANNOT see being a stand up man is hilarious.
Fukk him. No sympathy here. If I was his wife, I would try my hardest to have his azz revived and put on an incuabtor so I could keep his suffering azz alive just long enough to kill him my damn self.
Kinda punk azz weak -sh*t is that? “I will be at the bottom of the Bronx River if you need me…”
:confused:
Weak azz….
FeFe says:
@caligirl
Yeah, I heard about that…he’s like in his sixties or something
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I think that’s more her speed. A young dude gonna run the skreets, and the other the Prime Minister was a player. But what she don’t know, some of these ministers can give you a run for your money…We’ll see. I hope and pray for the best for her. Marrying a man that has such a large flock is serious business.
He killed her a year later for her life insurance policy.
I that Women wake up and not be so quick to marry someone whatever the reason.
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Wow and Whoa!
KyCakes
*message* It’s always better to do you and keep it movin’. DO NOT settle for less then you deserve no matter WHAT the reason
Thanks for sharing your story
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@REDEEMED
There is nothing at all pleasurable about your comments for many folks here. Not that that will stop you.
And most negroes ain’t finna kill themselves to avoid being married…they’ll just tell a chick “no” and move on with another bish until the chick who wants marriage is so down and out about him not marrying her that she may kill HERSELF or just give up all hope on him.
I don’t know what this dude up above what doing. That was some other part of the game that I missed, I guess.
@Kycakes….When you coming out with your book?….He he still in prison?
*message* It’s always better to do you and keep it movin’. DO NOT settle for less then you deserve no matter WHAT the reason
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SUICIDE IS A PERMANENT SOLUTION TO A TEMPORARY PROBLEM!!!
Oh well.
I found a snall part of this story funny.
I have a dark sense of humor sometimes.
I’ma work on being more sensitive….prolly tomorrow.
Cali & Choco – It no longer affects me. I am super sad for my Son, as his donor did this ish on his first birthday, but my Son is so loved and he’s the light of my life.
I don’t use this as an excuse for nothing. If anything, it made me work harder to be able to provide for my baby. That’s where my strict ‘one and done’ policy comes from. In essence because I made an f’ed up decision, I will always defer to my Son and his needs before anything else. Yes, that’s the way it should be once your a Parent, but as we can tell by today’s sad tale, many have a persecution complex. If he really wanted help to fix and heal the depression, he would have sought it out..
Prayers for this family….
@Dougie
I hear what ur saying, but I take suicide stories very delicately, only because it is usually the result of deep depression…which I lived through at one time in my life. This man had some serious demons for sure…
I just read some more info on this story.. This was inevitable, apparently he had ongoing issues with depression and him and his wife were going to counseling. It also stated that, I think, her/his aunt asked him on the day of the wedding if he was sure he wanted to go ahead with it, to which he replied “it’s too late now”. His cousin also stated that he sent him a rap about suicide. Sometimes suicidal people show alot of red flags but sometimes they are overlooked. (I know they sometimes show none)..
@DOUGIE
I have sorta mixed feelings about suicide but I will say that I think that note was a total cop out. I think there was more to it than he felt “pressured” to marry a woman he already had two damn kids with.
If you’re gonna take your own life, prepare to take the responsibility for EVERYTHING that comes with that decision.
AndThenIHitMyDougie – And most negroes ain’t finna kill themselves to avoid being married…they’ll just tell a chick “no” and move on with another bish until the chick who wants marriage is so down and out about him not marrying her that she may kill HERSELF or just give up all hope on him.
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I agree…
I want to say something like..sucide is serious health problem. There I said it.
For those that have crazy family members, get them HELP. I have been MAD depressed before. Crazy arase exhusband, had to bury a child(that is the worst) having another child who was always sick….lost of job…but I’m thankful for stable mind…
I pray for weak individuals. He was weak and really, he may have ended up killing her and those kids or somebody else…So…That’s all I got.
@Bootcamp
Thanks! I figured there was much more to this…not that any of that information makes what he did “OK”, but it helps clear some of the confusion up…
Well, that’s one of the big problems in so-called sunday churches today….NOBODY TELLS THE TRUTH!!!
Folks want to hear non-sense, and ” feel good ” messages, instead of the TRUTH!!!
One who dies in sin aint going to heaven. Instead of getting angry about, WARN FOLKS ABOUT IT!!!
READ YOUR BIBLE.
Redeemed777: WELLLLL
Did you make it to CALI?
@caligirl
And, if this mofo killed anyone else and then did himself, I’d probably have less sympathy…I cannot STAND when people commit a murder/suicide…if you wanna take yourself out, then do so…but don’t take the spouse and kids with your dysfunctional azz!
@Fefe
I get it…and I understand there usually is an underlying problem….but this fool didn’t want help. Hell…you cannot make me BELIEVE his only reason was that he didn’t want to be married. Even as he was about to kill himself, he wanted to make it seem like it was somebody else’s fault. That nigga was as selfish as they come. Hence, why I don’t find an ounce of pity for him. I don’t respect cowardice….even if it does leave you to killing yourself.
And I fukks with MANY of ya’ll on this board, but please know, should any of ya’ll get so weak, foolish, selfish and cowardly as to kill yourselves, you won’t have any sympathy coming from my way AT ALL.
I don’t respect that. I would stand right up at your funeral and say: “Well damn bish, that was dumb. Wish you could’ve had enough sense to get the fukk over it.
”
*sits down in front pew*
THAT IS THE MOST IGNORANT BULLSHYT I’VE EVER HEARD!
LET ME LEAVE THIS POST CUZ THE BIBLE THUMPIN, WANNA BE AT THE RIGHT HAND OF GOD FANATIC IS BOUT TO TAKE ME THERE
@Redeemed777-not trying to start anything, I love the lord as much as you do, do I go to church every Sunday, no, am I sinner, yes. I listening to this sermon this past Sunday and it spoke of people acting like they have a heaven or hell to put someone in and I have to honestly say, sometimes, that’s the vibe I get from you…#IMO..
I gotcha bew!
@Fefe – Thanks, but it’s wasn’t the end of the world. When I started “living” again. The world was still spinning. Nobody stopped to wait for me. I’m like KyCakes!
I got a LOW TOLERENCE FOR NONSENSE! Stop complaning, I will fill a tub full of hotwater for you. Do you want sharp razors or a running hair dryer.
Cali – No book, ma. There are people in this world who have endured much worse. If anything, I tell my story as a cautionary tale. Many people think that others aren’t capable of murder, suicide, etc…but they are.
He was a very easy going individual, very laid back, we never argued. But once the stress caught up to him, once it all hit the fan, he took her out. I would have preferred he took himself out, quite frankly….
Only time I would cosign somebody’s suicide is if they had serious urges to kill others and instead of doing that, killed themselves. I consider those suicides “sacrifices.” But how many of THOSE really happen?
Exactly. Murder-suicides are all too prevalent.
AndThenIHitMyDougie – scoot your butt over…so I can sit on the pew with you.
I got a LOW TOLERENCE FOR NONSENSE! Stop complaning, I will fill a tub full of hotwater for you. Do you want sharp razors or a running hair dryer.
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i guess refreshing won’t make a new post appear huh *sigh*
@redeemeth can u c&p that kjv bible verse that says sum r born to kill themselves? i musta missed bible study that night
Some people who commit suicide feel like they are the source of the problem so they believe all would be better if they no longer existed, twisted, irrational thinking, but true…
@Cali
*scoots over a bit so you can sit; pats seat beside me*
Thank you, JMO. Me too
It was a tough time, but at the end of the day, if my tale saves just one Woman, my work here is done…
Thanks for letting me share, ya’ll
#LoveMySRFam
@Bootcampgirl
The reason you think that is because your pastors have conditioned you all into thinking that way…
May I refer you to a true man of God?
Visit Youtube and type in ” RingoTV ”
Look for his youtube page ” RingoTV ”
Then look for the video ” Steve Harvey Exposed ”
Watch & Listen to the entire video, because he will explain why you think you have a vibe from me.
The bride’s cousin just emailed me. She’s upset, and she doesn’t appreciate you ladies and gents accusing her cousin of pressuring Mr. Brazier to marry her. She said he proposed to her.
@Rededemm – Don’t forget spread the gospel about Proverbs. Scriptures about love for another.
:BLINK: The bride works at my mom’s job in Mt. Vernon. So many things happening in my neck of the woods. My godfather Heavy dying. We grew up in the same neighborhood. He played ball with my dad in Mt. Vernon growing up. I hear of his death while I’m on my cruise and return to attend his wake. My other friend who I grew up with in Mt. Vernon dies of a brain aneurysm at 33 yrs old on October 21. Now my mom’s co-workers husband commits suicide.
So much trouble in this world. Lord help us.
Actually it’s white males that have the highest suicide rates, then white females, then black males, and black females have the lowest suicide rate.
Either way this story is sad
Sandra Rose says:
The bride’s cousin just emailed me. She’s upset, and she doesn’t appreciate you ladies and gents accusing her cousin of pressuring Mr. Brazier to marry her. She said he proposed to her.
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Get the heck out of here…I don’t think she pressured him…But I think she need to go help her cousin grieve. JEEZ
She got time to be on the internet?
I had a dude threaten to blow his head off if I left him one time… I told his azz: “make sure you don’t do that sh*t on my porch cause I ain’t cleaning up that bullsh*t.” And went back in my house and closed the door.
He had the
look but I think he had a better understanding of where I stood on that issue after that day.
The best part: I really wasn’t joking. I REALLY didn’t want him to do it on my porch. I was going to be mad as hell if that shIt stained.
@SANDRA ROSE
“The bride’s cousin just emailed me. She’s upset, and she doesn’t appreciate you ladies and gents accusing her cousin of pressuring Mr. Brazier to marry her. She said he proposed to her.”
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“A 28-year-old Bronx man who felt pressured by his high school sweetheart into marrying her, took his own life hours after the wedding.”~Sandra Rose
The Devil really had this boys mind. The NY Post has a recording of a rap song the groom recorded. It is very scary. It’s all about suicide.
@Sandra
Ummmm, didn’t the article say the parents pressured him? Who said the wife pressured him? I think most folks are speaking in “general” terms when they speak about women pressuring men to marry them…or maybe that’s just MY understanding of it…
i think people are just going by what was written in the story (i.e. first sentence)
dumb bish AT the funeral Dougie??
@Dougie… I get what you’re saying and even though I may not agree with suicide, think its selfish or whatever the case may be, there are times in which you just shouldn’t say anything. You never know how those affected are feeling or may react. My father left a suicide note some years ago and we were able to find him and stop it from happening. Its something I don’t really talk about however if we hadn’t stopped it, he died and somebody said what you said at his funeral, pews wouldve been moved up in that church …
*goes to hit refresh for a
@sandra its not the wifie fault is that man
he decided to walk down the isle he decided to take his life his decision not the wifie… cant nobody make me do shyt so yeah no fault for her imo 

i refresh like 10 times no new post!! 
@his hey mami
@candi
Bootcampgirl says:
Sometimes suicidal people show alot of red flags but sometimes they are overlooked. (I know they sometimes show none)..
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Also, people who are contemplating suicide usually appear happy before taking their lives. The fact that he was happy during the reception means he had already made up his mind.
why she throw y’all under the bus?
@caligirl
Love = Keeping the commandments!
Did you read those scriptures that I posted?
@SR
She clearly didn’t read my posts then cause I think she should not be a bit upset. Collect her insurance policy and thank the good Lord that he showed her what a weak man/husband/provider he’d have turned out to be before the marriage went any further.
Focus on them kids and getting with a man with a bit more “durability” to his countenance.
@Man
Ok, thanks for clarifying….
Dear Bride’s Cousin,
Whatever.
Sincerely,
YSoSerious
@Redeemed777-thanks, but, no thanks…
Something just dosen’t seem right about going to YT for the gospel..
@BRIDE’S COUSIN
Family members said Brazier suffered from depression in the months leading up to the wedding.
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Instead of being worried about what folk on the net saying about your cousin, you should have told her that she KNEW ol boy was sick but she was more worried about a wedding…. apparently.
Now she had her wedding and her kids will forever be fatherless.
SMH
Hi peeps !
@caligirl
Go check out RingoTV.
Check out his video ” Steve Harvey Exposed ” watch & listen to the entire video
He will get you up to speed on the foolishness and the twisted doctrine of the so-called ” Love ” that so-called pastors teach to their sheeple.
@Sandra Rose-
@Fayla
I cannot tell a lie.
AT the funeral,
@JMO
Your dad probably was not suicidal then because they say MOST suicidal folks CANNOT be talked out of it and if so…only for a certain amount of time before they eventually do it again. I get you would have been mad if someone had said that at the funeral….but I’m going to be COMPLETELY honest…even if someone aint say it…they were THINKING it.
That whole phrase you always hear of: “I just don’t understand how he could think it was that bad”…. “or why didn’t they come talk to us about it first” is just a nice, sympathetic way of folks saying: “that was some weak, cowardly sh*t.
@Bootcampgirl
That’s another problem…..Folks not doing research!
Whoever said he was white?
The Lord has not revealed His truth to them.
@LAKER CHIC
Yeah, she responsible. She knew that dude wasn’t in his right mind. If she KNEW he was suffering from depression (which is an illness) why was she still worried about a wedding???
Even if HE suggested it she should have told him that due to his illness NOW wasn’t the time to be worried about no wedding/honeymoon.
But I guess one was more important than the other.
@Man
I Love You….
VERO!! :hugs: x 5
Dear Bride’s Cousin:
Are you ready to tell us what the real reason was then? So if he wasn’t pressured then what was it? I’ll wait…
@Bootcampgirl
The Lord has only revealed His truth to Jacob NOT ESAU.
The fact that he was happy during the reception means he had already made up his mind.
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So true he knew his worries would be over!
@Bootcampgirl
You better start getting the Truth. Time is at hand.
@DOUGIE
“She clearly didn’t read my posts then cause I think she should not be a bit upset. Collect her insurance policy and thank the good Lord that he showed her what a weak man/husband/provider he’d have turned out to be before the marriage went any further.”
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When did illnesses = weakness??
Dude was SICK, she KNEW it and she was more concerned about the wedding. Period.
If anything those kids should be removed lest they have an illness that is inconveinant to her.
@dougie … what insurance policy?
@YSO …
@Vero
@ FeFe: the “cousin” said the bride wasn’t willing to speak to anyone. I didn’t post the email because I have no evidence that’s really her cousin.
Your dad probably was not suicidal then because they say MOST suicidal folks CANNOT be talked out of it and if so…only for a certain amount of time before they eventually do it again.
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Have you ever been suicidal? or had suicidal thoughts?
Redeemed – I don’t want to listen to anything about Steve Harvey. Are you kidding me?
I’ve read the bible several times. It’s one of the top 5 books that I love! It has Mystery, Crime, Love, War, Politics, Romance, Adventure etc….
I’m clear on foolishness and don’t get my doctrine from YOUTUBE. Please have a SUPERNATURAL BLESSED DAY.
The thought of someone thinking they are better off dead than being with me is such an insult… WOW. That will be a hard pill for her to swallow. At least he was coward enough to kill himself and not her and the children… White folks do that ish.
@Redeemed 777-YT as in YouTube
OTB : so pretty
Yeah….I wanna know what the fukk he was worried about because the excuse about the pressure of being married to a woman he already lived with, had been with for at least 10 years and already had kids by is some bullsh*t.
I ain’t believing that even if his weak azz rose from the bottom of the Harlem River and told me that himself.
IF HIS PROBLEM WAS ONLY “MARRIAGE” WELL HIS SOLUTION WAS JUST AS SIMPLE
“DIVORCE”
I AINT THE MOST POPULAR ROUN THIS MUFAKA ANY HOW, CAUSE TO OTHERS I COME OUT OF LEFT FIELD
BUT I’M GOING TO JUST SPEAK MY PEACE AS ALWAYS AND LET THE BULLETS LAND WHERE THEY MAY
BUT IF THIS STORY WAS ABOUT A WOMAN TAKING HER LIFE, I WONDER HOW MANY OF THE POSTERS WOULD HAVE JUST AS MUCH SYMPATHY FOR HER
I SWEAR TO ME OUR SOCIETY IS SO SEXIST, TO THE POINT EVEN SOME WOMEN HAVE BOUGHT INTO BLAME THE WOMAN MENTALITY, WHEN SHE DOES WRONG AND STILL BLAME HER WHEN A MAN DOES, WRONG, SOME HOW THE WOMAN ALWAYS ENDS UP BEING AT FAULT AND THE MAN GETS A PITY PARTY & AND A FREE FROM RESPONSIBILITY CARD
EVERY INDIVIDUAL IS ACCOUNTABLE FOR HIS OR HER ACTIONS & SHOULD TAKE RESPONSIBILITY FOR THEIR OWN DECISIONS GOOD AND BAD
@Sandra
Well obviously like @Man is saying, this dude was ill and was showing signs of it early on according to other reports….so he had no business going through with this, although he could have easily found another reason to do this chit… oh well…
@JMO :hugs:
Maybe she thought a wedding would “cure” him. You win some, you lose some.
AndThenIHitMyDougie says:
@Fayla
AT the funeral, I cannot tell a lie.
@JMO
Your dad probably was not suicidal then because they say MOST suicidal folks CANNOT be talked out of it and if so…only for a certain amount of time before they eventually do it again. I get you would have been mad if someone had said that at the funeral….but I’m going to be COMPLETELY honest…even if someone aint say it…they were THINKING it.
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I just think we’ll disagree on this one. It doesn’t matter if they were thinking it. That wouldn’t be the place for you to voice your opinion. You attend a funeral to pay your respects no? That just seems disrespectful to say that. Might as well not attend the funeral
Man, I just don’t care™ says:
She knew that dude wasn’t in his right mind. If she KNEW he was suffering from depression (which is an illness) why was she still worried about a wedding???
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Because most women are very selfish when it comes to weddings. It’s all about her and the image that she portrays to her guests. So everything has to be perfect for “her” special day, not “their” special day. The groom is only a part of the wedding — like the cake and the DJ.
@Black – Did you not read my post….
..and please don’t take this the wrong way, but…is that you in your gravi? and is that thing on your head a Hairstyle, Hat? #JustAskin’
@BLACK BEAUTY
“At least he was
cowardnot sick enough to kill himself and her and the children…”_____________________________________________________________________________
Made some necessary corrections to your statement babe.

You can thank me with azz shots.
caligirl says:
@JMO
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Thanks so much …
I just think we’ll disagree on this one. It doesn’t matter if they were thinking it. That wouldn’t be the place for you to voice your opinion. You attend a funeral to pay your respects no? That just seems disrespectful to say that. Might as well not attend the funeral

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@Choco
Honestly…yes…for about a few hours after my bro got killed the day after my 20th bday. I was depressed about that, going through some off the wall scandalous sh*t with my boyfriend, unemployed, behind in college, pregnant and some more sh*t….BUT…that sh*t lasted about 5 mins because I figured my mother and nephews would have a coronary if I was to be so selfish as to check myself out and leave my mother with both of her kids dead because of a whole bunch of bullsh*t I created but was too lazy/wweak to fix.
Hence why I feel that suicide is TRULY selfish because me NOt being selfish changed my fukking mind.
So yeah…
SANDRA says:
Because most women are very selfish when it comes to weddings. It’s all about her and the image that she portrays to her guests. So everything has to be perfect for “her” special day, not “their” special day. The groom is only a part of the wedding — like the cake and the DJ.
—
Agree.
@ KyCakes: let me stop you right there and remind you that personal attacks is against the
:caution:
I was engaged to a man, I thought he had mental problems. Called his ex-wife and told her you are right. (she had warned me) This nigga is crazy. Wished him the best of luck I’m out. I don’t know what happened to him, I don’t do followups! I was not waiting around for that nigga to snap.
@SANDRA
“She knew that dude wasn’t in his right mind. If she KNEW he was suffering from depression (which is an illness) why was she still worried about a wedding???
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Because most women are very selfish when it comes to weddings. It’s all about her and the image that she portrays to her guests. So everything has to be perfect for “her” special day, not “their” special day. The groom is only a part of the wedding — like the cake and the DJ. ”
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I was >>>>>thisclose<<<< to calling her narcisstic to WANT to force a sick individual into marrying her, but I didn't want Pookie 'nem to come looking for you Sandra.
You know she prolly got the "Funeral Extravaganza" all planned out.

It’s a Platinum blonde lacefront. I had to cover half of my forehead because I have no edges and I like my hairline and eyebrows to meet. Everyone love my new look
BlackBeauti says:
The thought of someone thinking they are better off dead than being with me is such an insult… WOW. That will be a hard pill for her to swallow. At least he was coward enough to kill himself and not her and the children… White folks do that ish.
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Black is that you in the gravi??
I need to ask before I comment. I don’t wanna pull a His and Saucey scenario 
I’m also agreeing with Man today too…I think I need a nap.
@JMO
I got you. I wouldn’t volunteer to get up and speak to say that sh*t…but if asked, I would probably politely decline. If FORCED, I could be liable to say what I was really thinking….
Hi everyone
Sandra Rose says:
@ KyCakes: let me stop you right there and remind you that personal attacks is against the

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This post
Misss Sandra that sweater post did not work, what else you got?
@ Sandra – I wasn’t being mean. Hadn’t seen a style like that, before, which is why I prefaced the comment with ‘not being mean’…
All the ridiculous gravi’s that folk post, including myself, sometimes you gotta ask.
#StillLovinMyLogin
#DontBanMeAuntie
@SANDRA
”
“let me stop you right there and remind you that personal attacks is against the
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Why are you never around when it’s “Let’s-talk-about-Man-to-disguise-our-lust-for-him” Day?
@Sandra
REALLY? You know that is not BlackBeauti’s real pic and that Ky is just playing!
Stop being like that Sandra, getting all ban-happy over a joke. How was that a personal attack? She asked “IF” it was her, first, no?
Man, I just don’t care™ says:
I was >>>>>thisclose<<<< to calling her narcisstic to WANT to force a sick individual into marrying her, but I didn't want Pookie 'nem to come looking for you Sandra. ___________________ But you would have been right though. Most brides-to-be suffer from temporary form of narcissism because everything revolves around them. Their narcissism usually clears up right around the time that the bills for the wedding start coming in -- and then everything is about him, or his parents.
BlackBeauti says:
It’s a Platinum blonde lacefront. I had to cover half of my forehead because I have no edges and I like my hairline and eyebrows to meet. Everyone love my new look
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I love it! I’m a coward…I scarred to go blond. You got my vote!
If you have not dealt with depression or suicidal ideations yourself, I think it would be hard for anyone to begin to identify, we all can call him a coward, weak, etc. but if you have not walked a day in this man’s shoes no one has the right to judge or condemn him. Like previously stated, this man had an illness, depression is a mental health disorder and most people take medication to control it..I know what happened that day, what was running through his mind, but one thing that we have to remember that this man was not thinking clearly or rationally(sp?)
I was to be so selfish as to check myself out and leave my mother with both of her kids dead because of a whole bunch of bullsh*t I created but was too lazy/wweak to fix.
Hence why I feel that suicide is TRULY selfish because me NOt being selfish changed my fukking mind.
So yeah
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I too have had them and becuz Im mentally stronger and I cope with things differently I was able to pull myself out of that dark place but that chit was not a cake walk and I even ended up back in that same dark place years later and I regained my composure too but IM IN NO POSITION to call someone weak becuz they felt they truly didn’t have another option I had people who loved I was blessed with a good job things I worked hard for and got them and was willing to throw it all away I think also some folks are not as close to GOD as they should be becuz it was his love and self love that pulled me out of that dark place – that dark place can’t even scare me anymore becuz if I feel it coming Im already making changes to prevent it
let me stop you right there and remind you that personal attacks is against the

LETS BE NICE TODAY YALL
^^^
Yes it is. I am a fierce full figure chick
@Man & Sandra
You two do not SERIOUSLY believe that this woman is at fault for him taking his life because he gave some bullsh*t excuse of not being ready to be married? Are you really blaming her?
I agree with Intense on this sh*t…the whole “blame the woman” sh*t is getting OLD. He should be held accountable for not being strong enough to say “no” and being so weak and cowardly as to only think of his OWN fukking feelings rather than his wife/kids/family!!
Fukk him.
but if you have not walked a day in this man’s shoes no one has the right to judge or condemn him.
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Thats all Im saying it hurts me to hear him judged for his illness
Um… I jus don’t think I can use this –>
up in this post
@Sandra … what otha posts ya got??
@LAKER
Hush up!
BlackBeauti says:
Yes it is. I am a fierce full figure chick
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Just curious….. it that a front lace finger wave?
@caligirl
Cali girl, it is not about steve harvey perse, but about the common so-called christian mentality in so-called sunday churches!!!!
The word ”christian ” aint even in the Bible.
and so-called christians think all they have to do is ” Love ”…..
they don’t even know what Love is?????
This is why I say read those scriptures I posted, and check out RingoTV!!!
Be a doer.
Fukk him.

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Wow no respect for the dead huh
@Dougie – Thank you, bew :hug:…YOU got it. I really was simply curious..
for my curiosity 
Auntie trying to make me feel
@DOUGIE
“You two do not SERIOUSLY believe that this woman is at fault for him taking his life because he gave some bullsh*t excuse of not being ready to be married? Are you really blaming her?
I agree with Intense on this sh*t…the whole “blame the woman” sh*t is getting OLD. He should be held accountable for not being strong enough to say “no” and being so weak and cowardly as to only think of his OWN fukking feelings rather than his wife/kids/family!!
Fukk him. ”
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Babe…. the nigga was SICK.
She KNEW IT.
And was more concerned about her “wedding.”
Those are the FACTS. She is to blame. I bet she would have had a marital ceremony with that nigga if he was on life support. I guess he would be a “coward” for not waking up out of a coma and stopping the process then too huh? SMH.
Ignorance is bliss.
@YSO IM KEEPN IT KEEWT!! AUNTIE IN HERE WITH HER DEPORTATION VAN WAITING OUTSIDE
It’s a Platinum blonde lacefront. I had to cover half of my forehead because I have no edges and I like my hairline and eyebrows to meet. Everyone love my new look
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I love it! I’m a coward…I scarred to go blond. You got my vote!
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Im not talking to any of you!
@BlackBeauti
Stop playing beofer Sandra really think fiolks are attacking you for that pic. I remember when your pic was that horrible fish-face looking dude I had seen on hot mess . com a few years back.
And this chick’s pic was just on Jia’s website a few weeks ago under that “Hot Sh*t NOt Found Here” tag.
I agree with Intense on this sh*t…the whole “blame the woman” sh*t is getting OLD. He should be held accountable for not being strong enough to say “no” and being so weak and cowardly as to only think of his OWN fukking feelings rather than his wife/kids/family!!
Fukk him.
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Not to beat a dead horse, but let’s remember that this man was obviously SICK…when one has a mental illness you cannot rationalize their actions…
Man, I just don’t care™ says:
@SANDRA
“let me stop you right there and remind you that personal attacks is against the ”
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Why are you never around when it’s “Let’s-talk-about-Man-to-disguise-our-lust-for-him” Day?
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I don’t know what is it. I trusted my hairstylist ans she hooked it up for Thanksgiving.
DEPRESSION WAS HIS PROBLEM AND NOT SEEKING HELP VERSUS TAKING HIS LIFE IS THE ISSUE, MANY PEOPLE, MEN ETC. MAY HAVE FELT PRESSURED TO GET MARRIED NOT ALL OF THEM END THEIR LIFE
TO IMPLY OTHERWISE IS JUST SENSATIONALISM AT IT’S BEST & OUTRIGHT ILLOGICAL
@SANDRA
“I was >>>>>thisclose< <<< to calling her narcisstic to WANT to force a sick individual into marrying her, but I didn’t want Pookie ‘nem to come looking for you Sandra.
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But you would have been right though. Most brides-to-be suffer from temporary form of narcissism because everything revolves around them. Their narcissism usually clears up right around the time that the bills for the wedding start coming in — and then everything is about him, or his parents. "
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If a woman truly loves you, they don't need no expensive azz ceremonies and trips around the world to prove it.
They down with you when you "between jobs" or on a "Federal Vacation."
!*LaKErCHiC@*! says:
DAM!!!
@YSO IM KEEPN IT KEEWT!! AUNTIE IN HERE WITH HER DEPORTATION VAN WAITING OUTSIDE
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@JMO – Don’t go there with Black. I already got a
from Auntie…
FeFe says:
Not to beat a dead horse, but let’s remember that this man was obviously SICK…when one has a mental illness you cannot rationalize their actions…
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Nor are their thoughts rational..
Cali girl, it is not about steve harvey perse, but about the common so-called christian mentality in so-called sunday churches!!!!
The word ”christian ” aint even in the Bible.
and so-called christians think all they have to do is ” Love ”…..
they don’t even know what Love is?????
This is why I say read those scriptures I posted, and check out RingoTV!!!
Be a doer.
Choco aka Hippie says:
I was to be so selfish as to check myself out and leave my mother with both of her kids dead because of a whole bunch of bullsh*t I created but was too lazy/wweak to fix.
Hence why I feel that suicide is TRULY selfish because me NOt being selfish changed my fukking mind.
So yeah
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I too have had them and becuz Im mentally stronger and I cope with things differently I was able to pull myself out of that dark place but that chit was not a cake walk and I even ended up back in that same dark place years later and I regained my composure too but IM IN NO POSITION to call someone weak becuz they felt they truly didn’t have another option I had people who loved I was blessed with a good job things I worked hard for and got them and was willing to throw it all away I think also some folks are not as close to GOD as they should be becuz it was his love and self love that pulled me out of that dark place – that dark place can’t even scare me anymore becuz if I feel it coming Im already making changes to prevent it
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don’t mention federal vacations
*whispers* there’s a new post (not the ugly sweater one)
@SANDRA
So you saying if I put my pic up NAIR hoe can say anything bout me lest they get banned???
Cause you ain’t, not one time, gave out a warning for folk talking bout me. The only difference is my pic wasn’t up.
O.M.F.G people make me sick. I paid to give out turkeys in my hood. This lady gets a turkey free, get jacked for it. Then …
This tweet from 50 cent made my day
I don’t know what is it. I trusted my hairstylist ans she hooked it up for Thanksgiving.

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We stayin in this post some chit is about to come undone
@Man
Apparently his sister, the pastor, his cousin (or whoever he wrote that rap too) and a whole lot of other folks knew for CERTAIN his azz was sick too. Where’s the blame for them?
He could’ve ALWAYS said “NO.”
It’s really easy and there are tons of different variations for it!
“No”
“fukk No.”
“Hell NO!”
“HELL NAW”
“Hell to the fukk no!”
“Shid, no!”
And tons of other variations. He knew he was sick which is why he was reaching out to folks with his suicidal raps, talks, etc. He could have always gotten help for his own damn self too. I get so TIRED of soceity blaming every invidual’s problems on everything else in their enviroment but that damn person themselves! We have a puzzy azz society because of it!
Personal accountability in this day and age is a damn antique because no matter what you do on your own fukking free will and accord, it’s always somebody willing to make an excuse for you to blame it on something else.
No. I’m not for that.
KyCakes says:
@JMO – Don’t go there with Black. I already got a from Auntie…
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I see!! I tried to frantically figure out how to erase my comment
ALL WE KNOW THE TWO WERE MARRIED & HE COMMITTED SUICIDE
HOW IN THE HELL CAN ANYONE SPEAK TO AS HOW THE HELL THIS WOMAN FELT & FOR WHOMEVER TO STATE THAT HE FELT PRESSURED TO MARRY AND DIDN’T REALLY WANT TO MARRY HER, THEIR NOT TOO DAMN BRIGHT EITHER YOU CAN ASSUME/THINK/ ALOT OF DAMN THINGS BUT SOME THINGS SHOULD NEVER BE SPOKEN
THEIR RESPONSE IS WE WANT TO RESPECT THE FAMILY’S PRIVACY AT THIS TIME, THIS PERSON OBVIOUSLY WANTED TO PLACE BLAME BECAUSE HE WAS DEAD AND PUBLICLY DID JUST THAT, POOR TASTE IS ALL I CAN SAY
IF SHE AINT PUSH THAT NICCA OUT THE DAMN WINDOW, THEN IT AINT HER DOING, THAT’S WHY IT’S CALLED SUICIDE, MEANING HE KILLED HIS DAMN SELF
AND IT WOULD HAVE MADE MORE SENSE IF HE KILLED HIMSELF BEFORE THE WEDDING, IF HE TRULY DIDN’T WANT TO GO THRU WITH IT
WHY WAIT UNITL THE WEDDING WAS OVER?????? DUH, IT WOULD HAVE BEEN MORE CONVINCING IF HE TIMED IT BEFORE THE WEDDING, HE WAS GOING TO KILL HIMSELF ANYHOW IT’S A DEMONIC SPIRIT -THAT WOULD HAVE RODE HIM UNTIL HE SOUGHT HELP
AndThenIHitMyDougie says:
He could’ve ALWAYS said “NO.”
It’s really easy and there are tons of different variations for it!
“No”
“fukk No.”
“Hell NO!”
“HELL NAW”
“Hell to the fukk no!”
“Shid, no!”
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Paul Simon said it best; There are “50 ways to leave your lover”
I leave self-deprecating humor!
@DOUGIE
“Apparently his sister, the pastor, his cousin (or whoever he wrote that rap too) and a whole lot of other folks knew for CERTAIN his azz was sick too. Where’s the blame for them?
He could’ve ALWAYS said “NO.”
It’s really easy and there are tons of different variations for it!
“No”
“fukk No.”
“Hell NO!”
“HELL NAW”
“Hell to the fukk no!”
“Shid, no!”
And tons of other variations. He knew he was sick which is why he was reaching out to folks with his suicidal raps, talks, etc. He could have always gotten help for his own damn self too. I get so TIRED of soceity blaming every invidual’s problems on everything else in their enviroment but that damn person themselves! We have a puzzy azz society because of it!
Personal accountability in this day and age is a damn antique because no matter what you do on your own fukking free will and accord, it’s always somebody willing to make an excuse for you to blame it on something else.
No. I’m not for that.”
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Did those other people have kids with him too??
Were they in a r/ship with him?
Nope. Ole “Ima-do-it-big-for-my-wedding” girl was tho.
Nigga was sick, she knew it, and was more concerned about her wedding than the father of her kids. Now they ain’t got no father.
…but she got the wedding she wanted.
AND dude WAS getting help. He was seeing a counselor. Doctors are 0% on saving all lives.
BUT she KNEW dude was sick and was steadily pressuring him = guilty.
Wait, not leave love!

AndThenIHitMyDougie says:
Personal accountability in this day and age is a damn antique because no matter what you do on your own fukking free will and accord, it’s always somebody willing to make an excuse for you to blame it on something else.
No. I’m not for that.
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:whistles:
I can’t go for that
No can do
SINCE EVERYBODY KNEW IT, WHY THE FUG NOBODY STOOD UP AT THE WEDDING TO STOP IT
HELL ALL THEY ARSES ARE TO BLAME TOO, EVERY LAST ONE OF THEM GUESTS ALONG WITH THE BRIDE IF THAT’S YOUR THEORY, HELL THE DR. TOO
WHY WAIT UNITL THE WEDDING WAS OVER??????
So he could inflict further pain? More bills, the pictures, the memories, she would never recover..
Just mean and spiteful. Im sorry. I do pray that wasnt it!
Or maybe he did want to marry her, but he also wanted to die. That could be.
Maybe it was a “gift”… *reaching…*
@INTENSE
“SINCE EVERYBODY KNEW IT, WHY THE FUG NOBODY STOOD UP AT THE WEDDING TO STOP IT
HELL ALL THEY ARSES ARE TO BLAME TOO, EVERY LAST ONE OF THEM GUESTS ALONG WITH THE BRIDE IF THAT’S YOUR THEORY, HELL THE DR. TOO”
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Did all of them pressure him into marriage or just ol girl?
Sounds like you mighty defensive about women that pressure others into marriage.

@Man
We have bno proof that fool was pressured. If there was not a gun to his head, he was not “pressured” to the point of no return. And if he didn’t want to marry her and let himself be “pressured” into this without threat of very real bodily harm, then he’s even weaker then I first thought.
you can hold onto the bullsh*t you believe reagrding this dude if you want, Man, I ain’t buying it though.
@intense – WHEN IS THE LAST TIME YOU WENT TO A WEDDING AND STOOD UP AND SAID HELL NAWL DON’T DO IT. OR WENT TO A WEDDING AND HEARD SOMEBODY ELSE SAY IT. MOST FOLKS DON’T DO IT, MOST FOLKS GET CAUGHT UP IN THE THE DAY AND NOT THE MARRIAGE. WHICH IS WHY MOST MARRIAGES FAIL IN THE FIRST PLACE.
EXACTLY OTB
Cali you stupid.
Standing up for what you believe in is a lost art that will get you ostracized like a mugg!
@DOUGIE
“We have bno proof that fool was pressured. If there was not a gun to his head, he was not “pressured” to the point of no return. And if he didn’t want to marry her and let himself be “pressured” into this without threat of very real bodily harm, then he’s even weaker then I first thought.
you can hold onto the bullsh*t you believe reagrding this dude if you want, Man, I ain’t buying it though.”
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Yeah, but the FACT remains was that:
1. dude was sick
2. she knew about it
3. she went through with the wedding
Like the women above said, who WANTS to be married to someone with a mental disorder? Where is HER “personal responsiblity” in that? You know, “personal responsibility” that you are all for?
She took advantage of the situation to have the wedding that she wanted knowing he wasnt’ of sound mind.
@CALI
IF THIS BRIDE CAN BE HELD ACCOUNTABLE FOR THIS MAN DEATH, WELL SPREAD THE RESPONSIBILITY ON TO EVERYONE ELSE TOO, IF IT WAS SO WELL KNOWN THIS MAN WAS TRULY ILL, WHY IS IT ONLY THE BRIDE’S RESPONSIBILITY TO CALL OFF THE WEDDIING
HELL I GUESS THIS NEGROE DIDN’T REALISE THAT WAS AN OPTION AS WELL, SO AS EGREGIOUS AS IT SOUNDS HELL YEAH SOMEBODY SHOULD HAVE STOOD UP AND STOPPED IT, IF THIS IS THE MINDSET WE ARE GOING WITH
MY HUSBAND PROPOSED TO ME, PARTICIPATED IN EVERY ASPECT OF THE WEDDING, STOOD UP IN FRONT OF MY FAMILY AND ENTIRE CHURCH FAMILY TO HAVE OUR ENGAGEMENT ANNOUNCED, AND CRIED LIKE A BABY AT THE WEDDING I HAVE THE VIDEO
I DON’T WANT A NICCA THAT DON’T WANT ME, NO PROBLEM IN THIS DEPARTMENT
NICCA YOU REACHIN
I don’t think anyone is to blame placing fault is not finding a resolution just wished he was healthier and happier
Wow this is a tragic and extremely sad story but I’m
with everyone else who says no one can force you into marriage. It wasn’t like someone held a gun to his head or threatened his life if he didn’t marry this woman. He went through all the planning, tuxedo fittings, rehearsals, etc..and nothing in his head told him to stop the shenaningans?
Him killing himself to me had less to do with him not wanting marriage, but more to do with whatever mental issues he had going on and whatever his personal demons he attempted to fight were. I just really hope his wife doesn’t go through the rest of her life blaming herself nor do her children blame her. If anything blame him.
And like Intense said..if he did have said mental issues..and his wife was supposedly being selfish, blah, blah, why didn’t anyone else step in on his behalf and stop the wedding? Just sounds like a bunch of people looking to place blame on someone..and the wife is the easiest target. :smh:
@INTENSE
“IF THIS BRIDE CAN BE HELD ACCOUNTABLE FOR THIS MAN DEATH, WELL SPREAD THE RESPONSIBILITY ON TO EVERYONE ELSE TOO, IF IT WAS SO WELL KNOWN THIS MAN WAS TRULY ILL, WHY IS IT ONLY THE BRIDE’S RESPONSIBILITY TO CALL OFF THE WEDDIING
HELL I GUESS THIS NEGROE DIDN’T REALISE THAT WAS AN OPTION AS WELL, SO AS EGREGIOUS AS IT SOUNDS HELL YEAH SOMEBODY SHOULD HAVE STOOD UP AND STOPPED IT, IF THIS IS THE MINDSET WE ARE GOING WITH”
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You right SOMEONE should have said something… but as long as we don’t leave out the MAIN CULPRIT: the fiance.
SHE was the one that wanted/agreed to the wedding
SHE was the one in a r/ship wtih ol boy
SHE was the one that knew he was sick
So yeah, we can blame the others too but let’s all agree to start with her.
WHATEVER MAN
YOU SHOULD HAVE ANTAGONIST NEXT TO YOUR DAMN NAME!!! MR. SHIAT STARTER
@Man,
You’re a joke…
OH my goodness, this man just pooted next to me in a meeting. He looking at me like, do you like that scent.
There is A new beyonddddsayy post.
I don’t think anyone is to blame placing fault is not finding a resolution just wished he was healthier and happier
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THIS MINDSET IS MUCH HEALTHIER, HE DOESN’T DESERVED TO BASHED IT IS TRULY SAD THAT THIS MAN FELT THE NEED TO TAKE HIS LIFE, DEPRESSION IS A MONSTER AND I’M CONVINCED THAT IT’S A DEMON THAT PREYS ON FOLKS MINDS AND ENABLES THEM TO COMMIT THE MOST ATROCIOUS ACTS, INCLUDING KILLING THEMSELVES
SELF-LOVE, THERAPY, EVEN MEDICATION IF NECESSARY, A GREAT SUPPPORT SYSTEM AND GOD IS THE ONLY WAY TO DESTROY THIS DEMON
Well at least he didn’t kill tha whole family….ijs.
The evil sister could have kept her comments to herself. She’s made it even worse for this poor woman. We’ll never know the full story, but I’m sure his problems went far deeper than having to marry the woman who bore his children.