Video: Raz B recants his lies

Sandra Rose December 27, 2007

Raz B finally recanted his vicious allegations against his former manager Chris Stokes. No doubt he feared being sued for libel, slander and ruining a man’s reputation. I’m sure the producers of their reality show didn’t want to be sued either.

Let this be a lesson to you all that you can’t believe everything you hear. The moment you heard the words “reality show” you should have known what was up. If Raz B was in a court of law he would be found guilty of perjury. There was NO evidence to support his claims and he didn’t go to the police with his allegations because he knew he was lying!

How does going on YouTube benefit child victims of molestation? You don’t go to YouTube with serious allegations such as this, you go to the police.

Raz B is a troubled young man who has made outlandish statements in the past. And because of his prior actions, he has zero credibility. I am dismayed that so many of you got caught up in this lie especially when you consider the 2nd video was edited to make Chris sound like he was confessing.

None of you questioned why they edited out the part leading up to what he said. Thank God none of you are working as prosecutors – you would put a lot of innocent people behind bars.

Honestly, if I were Chris Stokes I would go ahead with a lawsuit against Raz B and his brother for defamation of character.

http://notenoughrealmen.blogspot.com 2thick4u

This sounded like bullshit from the beginning. How long have they been broke up?!!!

Also Sandra…thank GOD you aren’t a prosecutor either. Your city will be full of skinny ass rappers thinking they KINGS and eveybody at MAGIC CITY all night!!

In these days and times…it is easy to believe almost anything now because almost anything goes now-a-days!!!
http://www.myspace.com/millyly milly

I’m sorry but…I still think Chris is guilty, call it a hunch or instinct…but I just feel someone is being paid off in the matter, and it is so sad that victims of sexual abuse can be paid out these days
http://www.myspace.com/mzmekpage Tmekio

Sandy!
Girl U know I always said that this negro was kinda “suspect” from the begginning. That’s why I love to hear your opinions on these situations first and then I kinda put my own “2 cents” in. Because nobody really knows if your NOT there, so u don’t know all the facts.

On that note, can we get the FACTS on R.Kelly?? Sandra PLEASE!! I know it’s him in the video, but has he had sex with other young girls who can attest to his “bad judgement”??? Can we get some feedback from some industry folks who know him personallyor professionally for that matter who can weigh in on this mess?? (Kelly’s Trial)
TT

Sandra,
If you didnt believe it why did U post it???? You were riding the wagon too!! Now as far as them lying, who knows but I dont know what man would go to the extent of saying he was molested & it is totally false…..Now if he is 100% lying then yes I think he needs to get it 2gether ASAP
shhhh

I personally feel that the guy did molest him. But since he racanted his story Chris is 100% forgiven in my book.

Sandra you know I said everything you said in this post, only I did believe he molested him. I said all a long he wasn’t coming forward for the right reasons. Either way it’s over. I feel after this, no blogger should ever touch this again.
WeezysBaby

@2thick4U

thank you Sandra will have a city of rainbow people walking around and all the thugs that are here “Friend” would be free of all wrong doing so good thing that you are not a prosecutor and merely a blogger.
buttercup24

NOW I don’t believe Raz B. Something shady is going on, and I think we’ll end up hearing more about this. Raz B having mental issues doesn’t make this null and void for me. We don’t when his mental issues began, this could’ve been a reason.
blackgyrl

Sandra, I totally agree with u Raz B is a very confused young man and I would mos def press charges against him if I were Chris Stokes!!!!
http://www.myspace.com/reddymond_45 The Black Katie Couric

Sandra,

You keep saying RazB has said some “outlandish” stuff in the past….like what?

That they didn’t get paid accordingly? Well he had the other two to back him up on that one.

So please share. What other things has RazB said that were lies?
msdunbar

I still think Chris Strokes did it. About a year back I remember a radio interview with Raz B. He talked about how he was molested when he was young. At the time he never said who did this to him. I do think it was bad timing to put this youtube message out after they announce their reality show. And I think it was an attempt to gain publicity. But its something about this Chris Stroke that strikes me as a child molester. Why is it he only works with young boys? Why do they always end up living with him? Something ain’t right. I think Raz B was paid to recant his statements. However I think the youtube messages would has been more creditable if they had left Ricky Romance home. How the hell can you take someone named Ricky Romance seriously not to mention he was rollin a blunt.
lea83

I have to agree with Sandra, if he had evidence he wouldn’t back out of his story.
http://www.findentertainmentnow.com miesha@FindEntertainmentNow.com

i still think something is stank about the whole raz b vrs chris stokes story. he could have been paid off. hello this is the entertainment industry…it is VERY powerful and money does talk. so he may have got the money but the price he paid for it was character and integrity. i thot the motives were wrong all along since they (raz b and ricky romance) came out with the story once chris stopped supplying them the money and came out and didn’t allow them into that event he was throwing in bev. hills. so yes it looked like they decided to tell the dirty family secrets at that time for the wrong reasons…but there was probably truth to it. and for that reason i do think raz b does have some mental issues, money issues, etc. but whatever…if that is how they want to play it then fine…it’s their lives, family, reputations. they are ALL shady.
http://www.FindEntertainmentNow.com
closetcolumnist

And now I am sure Chris Stokes molested him. That’s terrible. Raz is going to need so much therapy.
http://www.myspace.com/birdshu Bird

Chris Stokes can’t sue Raz B because he already robbed him of all his money. What good would suing him do? As for this video, I don’t believe one word of it. That poor child couldn’t even look at the camera.

Sandra I HAVE BEEN MOLESTED. I have never gone to the police or any adult about it and I can’t give you any proof. I revealed it to the world on my MySpace blog this morning. Does that mean it’s not true?

Raz B gave me a voice. I love him for that and I am sorry he was pursuaded to take money from Chris Stokes to recant his story, but it’s ok because the damage has already been done.
http://www.myspace.com/bettathaniwasb4 2bme

My “shit don’t sound right” radar is kicking in overdrive. There is SOMETHING about Chris that does not set right with me, it never has..I wouldn’t be surprised if Raz did take money to recant his story, we all know how broke he is..molesters are manipulative if nothing else and Chris has been brainwashing for years..Even if RazB and his brother never put these videos out, I would still feel the same way about Chris..
MsCici

I don’t take back a word I said. I would rather believe someone and pray that they get help than not believe it and have them hurt. I was molested up until the age of 11 and no one believed me. Hopefully, this gave someone, somewhere a voice and courage to speak up.
Bsoul

I still believe it went down. Razz B is probably being scared and/or paid off.

You don’t make up and racant a story like that for nothing. Maybe he got pressure from the family about how the meal ticket would go to jail; causing everyone to lose everything, who knows.

By now, he probably is troubled, who wouldn’t be after being a victim? However, this negates nothing that happened to him.

Didn’t that little girl in the R-Kelly video recant too. No, wait, her whole family (save for Sparkle) recanted and then up and disappeared until recently.
Bsoul

Evidence? What eveidence of molestation would he have? Some recent victims don’t have evidence. It’s even more the case for something that happend a few years ago.

Don’t hold your breath waiting for old condoms to be found laying around in a corner or a stained t-shirt. It’s not going to happen.

Female rape victims are encouraged to take rape kits right away. Why? Because “evidence” doesn’t stay long. Molestation is no different unless you get it on tape. Oh, wait a minute, didn’t someone get caught on tape saying “I don’t do that anymore.”?
srv

SR,
Hi! I have been following this story since your first post and now to see him recanting…Wow! I too always thought that it was wierd that Chris Stokes lived with boys and personally I always thought he was gay. I think that Raz-B was molested, whether or not it was by him I am not sure, but more than likely, CS knows something about it. Why would he always be trying to get rid of them, like when he shooed his mother away from that event? Maybe he thought they were going to bring it up there. They did use creative editing to portray him in the wrong light, but Raz-B has had issues regarding his sexuality arise in the past and he seems very affected by something. I am not sure about his character on Noah’s Ark, but I would like to take a look myself and see. Molestation is not a joke, so for his sake, he better just keep his mouth closed.
kpakpando

I don’t believe this recanting, I don’t believe it was leaked without his knowledge, I think he put his version of the truth out there and was since threatened and now comes up with this cock and bull video to try to cover himself.
There have been many stories over the years about sexual misconduct involving Chris Stokes, his sister and other TUG staffers, back from Immature days. These stories have had fuel added to them, since one former Immature member confirmed that he was indeed molested by Chris Stokes.

Again Sandra you’ve mentioned that RazB has come out with outlandish statements in the past, I’m still waiting for you to mention them; but even crazy men tell the truth too. I just don’t know of that many men who would admit to being molested, so they’re other lies he could’ve told if he was just seeking for attention.
Shanny07

Sandra a PROSECUTER…. Yeah Right?!?!?… Every child that was a victim of RAPE would have the accuser go free because they didnt have proof. What kind of an idiot says why didnt he go to the POLICE? I would guess that 95% of children rape dont even tell anyone let alone go to POLICE. What kind of logic do you use Sandra? Im just wondering… You get on here praising and defending rappers but then you down someone who says theyve been raped. YES, this is your site!! YES, you are entitled to your own opinion but if you cant be OBJECTIVE then leave the story off your BLOG!!

I personally dont believe this video ONE BIT.. People say hes sketchy and hes weird and all this other ****ery.. Well if you were RAPED byh your cousin you would probobaly be the same way.

Stokes should be thrown under the jail.. PERIOD!!

PS: EditorialGirl.. where are you.. your postings are always right ON POINT !!!
PaigeyWaigey

@@@@@@ BIRD @@@@@@
I hope revealing what happened to you brings you some peace, I couldn’t even imagine going through something like that as a child.
@@@@@@ SANDRAROSE @@@@@@
Your ass must be on the payroll too, you are too quick to judge other people. We are talking about a MAN who was MOLESTED by an ADULT who his FAMILY entrusted him to!! He has no money, there is no way at this point he could be after money, there is nothing montentarily to gain here, just the knowledge that his so called FAMILY MAN is a damn CHILD MOLESTER!! You are always so quick to judge people on your site instead of just stating what you heard and letting people discuss it. You act as if you shit don’t stank, I hope nobody reveals your dirt!! You want to be taken seriously as a journalist or whatever then your uneducated ass should know by now that journalist don’t give their opinion!! They report and let the public give their insight. And I don’t give a rat’s ass that this is your blog and I don’t have to be on here x y z…If you don’t want people to voice their thoughts then don’t write shit!! I suggest your ass falls back and takes some Ethics classes at the local community college. Let’s see now if you gonna delete my comment because your feelings are hurt. I wonder what you would have to say if a relative revealed to you they were molested by someone you cared deeply for in your own family, if you’d be so quick to judge them as well.
nolachic

I believe he’s guilty (Chris Stokes)…It is obvious Raz B didn’t want to do that recording but being threatened with lawsuits and shit when you don’t have any money to defend yourself isn’t going to help you…Thats the only reason he is recanting his story. HE”S BROKE! He can’t afford to be sued…Its common sense! I certainly would like to know about all these other cerazy accusations too! That boy is telling the truth and it killed to to have to recant his story! Just imagine the pressure he is under from family members!!….
http://yahoo.com Dr. 90210

I think Chris Pokes paid him off. If you notice they were hurting for money. So maybe he said I’ll give you some money if you recant what you said. And if you notice Raz B recanted the allegations about Chris And Marques, not about him and Chris. Read between the lines. This whole story is really sad. One of my friends was rapped and she was going to press charges, but her rapist said he would kill her mother and this guy knew where she lived. So she didn’t want to take that chance, so she didn’t press charges and now this loser is walking around and no telling who else he has done this to. So you never know what is going on behind the scene.

Facts are stubborn things; and whatever may be our wishes, our inclinations, or the dictates of our passions, they cannot alter the state of facts and evidence.– John Quincy Adams
starr

I believe it more now after that “recanting” than i did before. Look at him, body language, couldn’t even look in the camera. Chris probably threaten him or his family. Chris is a control freak, no telling what he did. Seeing that vid, tells me all i need to know.

Its not over. I remember all those years i heard rumors about R. Kelly, then that video surfaced. Its not over, this ish will come up again. And this is not the first time we’re hearing this about chris, just like kells until that video was showing up everywhere.
TJ76

I normally dont post comments but I just had to respond to this thread. First of all, I cannot believe that some people could be so gullible. If you turn up the volume on the video, you can clearly hear someone telling Raz B what to say. Where there is smoke there is usually fire. Let’s not forget that this “child” was not the first to make these claims. Remember Quindon, who was founded by Chris Stokes, confessed in front of his church that he was molested by Stokes. And Monteco was another “child” who made the same claims. Also, this is the reason the little Asian kid, who was an original member of Immature, left the group. His parents knew something was not right about Stokes. If you do a little research, you will find that this same man you are defending due to a lack of evidence, was recently in court behind another child molestation case. This video means nothing to me…it just proves to me that Stokes is guilty because the boy looks terrified and cant even look at the camera. I hear P Diddy and JD are also implicated in this whole fiasco so I can imagine the pressure Raz B must be under. And who has proof that they were molested? I’m so upset about this because it happened to me. I was molested by a family member and I did tell. Well the family member made all kinds of threats and I went back and said I told a lie. But fortunately my mother was smart enough not to buy it and she knew I was covering for the pedophile. If you’ve ever been molested or know someone who has, you would understand that this is often the reason why they have a lot of problems. Sandra, I dont know you personally so I’m not attacking you at all. All I’m saying is this. Anyone who has been keeping up with with the happenings of the music industry,and I’m talking from years past, know about Chris Stokes. I dont need to have it on video to believe it happened. You see, there is this thing called logic…If _________, then _________. So I’ll just fill in the blanks. If more than one person accuses you of molesting them, then your most likely guilty!! Like I said, I didnt have any proof that I was molested but that didnt mean it didnt happen. That pedophile is still in jail right now.
Coo Coo Bananas

Check cleared quick.
no12blame

I believe that Raz was molested by somebody. While Chris Stokes seems very suspect, I’m still not fully convinced he did it.
honeybee

Trust in believe home girl Sandra Rose must be getting paid you guys. I just heard from the horses mouth. The story is still true and it’s about to go down. Don’t listen to anything this woman has to say. Her creditbility is not good trust and believe. She is her to protect these entertainers don’t believe the hype.
aqtpie

I still believe Chris S. is guilty.
Krysi – yes the same one

ahh yes Ms. Rose,

I see that not much has changed since I last posted comments on your site. New digs are nice. Opinions are the same.

However,

I will say this, lets just hope that it will give another victim of Chris Stokes’ the courage to come forward. Someone who is not in need of emotional or financial support.
Mypoetryisdeep

What is wrong with you people? First this man with no evidence and no intention of filing charges said on Camera he was molested by his cousin, and some of y’all believed him with no reliable source other than his brother to back him up, now The same guy admitted on Camera that he lied about the whole ordeal and now y’all don’t believe him? Some people have said that they identify with being molested-So you telling me if your molester offer you some money you would shut your mouth about it? I have never been molested or abused but I’m sure thatis something that doesn’t goes away regardless of whatever dollar amount is presented to the victim. And let’s say Chris Stokes did pay Raz-B off, what does that make Raz-B? This man who grabbed victims of child molestion and rape ( on this board, and other places) support recants his story for a couple millions (Hypotheically). That makes him a man with no principles. A man with no principles is not a man at all. I hope Raz-B get right with the lord…No one can judge but the man upstairs but Raz-B is a messed up individual..
shortybj

I still believe what RazB said is true. I always thought something wasn’t right when they first came on the scene. I also no for a fact that sometimes when you are molested by a family member you don’t always chose to go to the police. Some people confront the person once they become of age. I NO THIS FOR A FACT.
Krysi – yes the same one

Mypoetryisdeep Says:

“What is wrong with you people? First this man with no evidence and no intention of filing charges said on Camera he was molested by his cousin, and some of y’all believed him with no reliable source other than his brother to back him up, now The same guy admitted on Camera that he lied about the whole ordeal and now y’all don’t believe him? Some people have said that they identify with being molested-So you telling me if your molester offer you some money you would shut your mouth about it?”

Krysi says:

Isn’t that what R.Kelly’s victim did? Evidence is on tape and it still was not enough to put R.Kelly behind bars because a paid victim would not testify against him. Raz B only spoke on the allegations between Chris and Marques he did not recant being molested by Chris himself. Look at the video again.
Bsoul

^^^Chris Stokes, is that you posting as #32?
Mypoetryisdeep

Krysi says:

Isn’t that what R.Kelly’s victim did? Evidence is on tape and it still was not enough to put R.Kelly behind bars because a paid victim would not testify against him. Raz B only spoke on the allegations between Chris and Marques he did not recant being molested by Chris himself. Look at the video again

He made accusations that Marques Houston was part of the molestion also…peep the first video where he is talking to Marques Houston father. He Insinuates that Marques was a part of the abuse also. That is what he’s apologizing for-for both allegations
Mypoetryisdeep

Bsoul Says:

^^^Chris Stokes, is that you posting as #32?

Nah just a man who believes nothing a man with no principles, no ethics, no conscious, says.
Lexi_xoxo

body language tells a story and if I had to pick which video he was lying in it would be the video of him recanting. He cant even look at the camera he looks scared and nervous, something aint right!
Lexi_xoxo

Mypoetryisdeep says:
“I have never been molested or abused but I’m sure thatis something that doesn’t goes away regardless of whatever dollar amount is presented to the victim. And let’s say Chris Stokes did pay Raz-B off, what does that make Raz-B?”

You should fall back, you have never been in this situation so you couldn’t possibly understand the mind state that victims are in. As to what does that make Raz-B it makes him human. If he was paid off then I feel even worse for him because that now too will weigh heavy on his heart.
Lou_Brock

I co-sign w/ Lexi

I wonder how much Chris Stokes shelled out to get him or force him to recant. That recant is the most unsincere thing I’ve ever seen.

I still think there’s something in the milk when it comes to Chris Stokes! And Sandra… why does it seem that you’re working PR for a pedophile???
https://www.sandrarose.com Sandra Rose

Lou_Brock Says:

I co-sign w/ Lexi

I wonder how much Chris Stokes shelled out to get him or force him to recant. That recant is the most unsincere thing I’ve ever seen.
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You people should make up your minds. First he’s advocating victim’s rights by coming out with these allegations. But now you’re saying he would stoop so low to take hush money from a pedophile???

If any of your brothers, sons, uncles, etc., are ever accused of being child molesters – you’d better hope most of these readers aren’t sitting on the jury.

The bottom line is he lied and now he has recanted his lies. End of story.
licia

well it’s obvious that someone is lying and i don’t know who to believe . it’s a sad situation.
Bsoul

@Mypoetry:

Raz-B is hurting now and seems to have been hurting for a long time. You can’t stand him up to the next man and expect him the “weigh” the same.

I think he has sacrificed his side of what happened for (what he feels are) good reasons. He may not be whole mentally, but I don’t think he lied the first go-round. He is protecting people (most likely, himself included). He is in no position to duke it out in court with a multi-millionaire. Add the fact that this is a family member into the mix and you have a disaster. Who knows how many begged and pleaded with him to recant.

He is in a lose-lose situation because no amount of money will negate what happened to him. I feel so much sorrow for him and the other boys that went through this tragedy.

Finally, my apologies for implying that you are Chris Stokes in disguise…very few people deserve that comparison.
spraggaswifey

@Shanny07 —thank you…you are on point…this can of worms has already been opened and can NEVER be sealed again no matter how many people recant their statements….i have never seen anything were RazB has made up false stories…RazB may not be perfect but i believe his first statement….look at his boby language in this video…i believe the young man who went to the church and confessed this in front of a whole crowd….this whole thing is just one big mess and it’s about to get worse….chris–him a FISH!!!..he needs help along with err’one else…
http://musicisourhigh.blogspot.com musicisourhigh

Sandra, do you believe Chris Stokes is innocent of molesting any young boys under his care or just Raz-B. I honestly want your thoughts. I do live in Los Angeles and there has been rumblings of things like that before Raz-B’s recent allegations
http://musicisourhigh.blogspot.com musicisourhigh

also this tape seem to end without a complete sentence. Does anyone know what the complete statement was
Mypoetryisdeep

BSoul:

The thing is, he may have very much been molested but the way he went about exposing it is very “Suspect”. If I was molested when I was young, I’m not going to go to youtube. I’m going to to my family, I’m going to go the Courts, I’m going to go the police, I’m going to go to the accusers residence and confront him. I’m not going to tell my story in front of hundred thousands of people I believe another person said something like I can’t even understand the mindset of a sexually abused victim which is true. But The Videos are evidence of Raz-B mindset…He is not trying to heal and get past this, or even get justice for what was done to him. He wants to embarass his alleged molester damage his reputation at the same time get him some attention. My Gaydar always went off when the name Chris Stokes came up, but I’m not going to call him a child molester simply because a man with ulterior motive said he was one. If I was Chris Stokes I would sue his ass..They’re already calling for ban of T.U.G. Entertainment. Does anyone get sick during the first video when Raz-B mention “Jesus Christ” and starts reciting passages and all of that fake christian shyt “like I forgive him because Jesus wants me to forgive him” or some off the wall crap like that. I hate when people uses religion to further their own cause. UGH! Raz-B is just…I don’t have a word for it…But he needs help. And not just Spirtuality, I’m talking about Therapy. He may be Scizophrenic
https://www.sandrarose.com Sandra Rose

musicisourhigh Says:

Sandra, do you believe Chris Stokes is innocent of molesting any young boys under his care or just Raz-B.
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If Chris Stokes has molested anyone that person needs to go to the police. If you have evidence that he is a molester then you should present your evidence. Otherwise we need to stop speculating on whether this man is a child molester and leave him alone so he can move on with his life. He has 4 beautiful children that nobody seems to give a damn about hurting.
Wrene

You can clearly hear someone in the background feeding him lines…and MTV.com also states that his brother stands behind his original allegations and hasn’t spoken to RazB in more than a day…
http://www.youtube.com/queencee1 babyny87

Bird I agree with you 100%! I can tell Sandra has no children whatsoever because she wouldn’t come out with a comment like that, nor does she know anything about pedophiles. Maybe Atlanta wasn’t aware of Chris Stokes back in the 90’s, but NYC and Cali knew…Talk to the CEO of MCA Records at the time, he’ll tell you that Chris has problems.
YoungLady

I still think he did it. He looks really suspect!! I feel sorry for that boy. He needs help and his mother needs to step in and take care of her child. And as for Chris Stokes kids, I hope he doesn’t have any BOYS!
LovelyLady

I agree with most of your comments, however it just wouldn’t be right if I didn’t speak up as a child of molestation. First off Sandra, the way you went about the story is totally wrong. And like some said this is why most don’t come out with being molested. They are afraid of the rejection and negative comments made by people, like yourself.

If you listen to the video he doesn’t say that he took back allegations of Chris Stokes molesting him nor his brother, he said Marques Houston.

I believe what Raz B is saying. As a rape victim no some people don’t come out right away about the allegations do to a lot of different things. It took me almost 13 years to let my family know what my sisters boyfriend was doing to me when I was 5. Does this make me a liar. Hell mutha freakin no. I was a child who was scared that people wouldn’t believe me, or thought I as just seeking attention. And boom was I right someone in my family didn’t believe a damn thing I said, you know why cause I had just gotten into trouble that same week. But the only reason I came out with this is because that part of me was affecting my life. At times I hated my sister because this was her boyfriend, at times I lashed out on my family (mother and grandmother) because I felt I was only 5 how could someone not know and they never knew why I acted this way , and I was starting to become out of control not caring what anyone thinks of me and because this ended up happening to me again at 14 by another family member. So i felt it was time to take control of my life and not make bad decisions based on what had happened to me. So i told my family. My sister didn’t want to believe me becasue she figured oh hell no how could i have been messing with a sick pervert (they were no longer together before I told them), so she denied it. Brushed it off as me seeking attention. And this is many reasons why people don’t come forward because people llike (Sandra) who accuse the accuser. Now his ass is locked up for moving to California and dooing this to another girls daughter. (Good)

Now Sandra you might be right, but how could you say he was lying before he even admitted to lying. Yes this is your site and you are entitled to your own opinion but somethings are better left unsaid. I believe the first video. What would he possibly gain by making these allegations. To be truthful most people would look at it like well damn so this is why he is gay. And I know he doesn’t want that. So I strongly believe this is one of the reasons he never came out before, due to being labeled a homo. Plus i heard from other sites (don’t know if it’s true) that Raz B got ruffed up by some thugs bloods or crips from LA and was told to recant his story.

Yes Raz B has problems but where did they escalate from. The problems I’m hearing he has sounds like rape trauma to me, but hey I’m no doctor. I think this video is allowign others to come out and to let them know don’t be afraid it’s sick people in this world who will try and make you believe this didn’t happen to you or that you’re going to break up a happy home or the most disgusting part you were asking for it. He gave a voice to so many people that he probably wouldn’t even know. And part of the reason I think he recanted his story is do to bloggers like Sandra who say negative things about the victim before they know the truth. If this happened to him I feel so sorry for him and the people who are saying he is lying. Don’t judge anyone let God do that. You see I haven’t said one thing bad about Chris. Raz B get help there is help out there. All this will do is keep affecting you until it takes control of your life, trust I know this hands first. But with that said I’m out.

JUST MY OPINION.
Bsoul

MY POETRY:
The thing is, he may have very much been molested but the way he went about exposing it is very “Suspect”. If I was molested when I was young, I’m not going to go to youtube. I’m going to to my family, I’m going to go the Courts, I’m going to go the police,

Me:
It’s so easy to say that when you don’t have to think through the mind-set of a molested male. Besides, RazB DID go to his family–at least, he went to his brother. Who knows how many more knew of his allegations?
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MY POETRY:
I’m going to go to the accusers residence and confront him. I’m not going to tell my story in front of hundred thousands of people.

ME:
When he made the tape is was in front of a few people. Keep in mind that he couldn’t see the “masses” that would later watch the video. Even if he knew how many it would reach, who cares who or how many he told? There’s not a number on how many or WHO you have to tell for something to be true or not. Not all victims behave in the same manner. He did what he thought would make him feel better. Of course I think it was spur-of-the-moment reaction, but I still think he was initially telling the truth.

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MY POETRY:
I believe another person said something like I can’t even understand the mindset of a sexually abused victim which is true. But The Videos are evidence of Raz-B mindset…

ME:
I’m not finding too many who are going to argue against the fact that RazB looks rattled or whatever you want to call it. However, I beleive his demeanor is the result of the sexual abuse. Not all victims are able to move forward without being affected mentally.

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MY POETRY:
He is not trying to heal and get past this, or even get justice for what was done to him. He wants to embarass his alleged molester damage his reputation at the same time get him some attention.

ME:
Maybe he has/had the mind-set that embarrassing his molester would make himself feel better because this is how he has felt–embarrassed. What damaged ADULT do you know that is capable of suviving things like this and coming out unscathed? Including myself, I don’t know many.

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MY POETRY:
My Gaydar always went off when the name Chris Stokes came up, but I’m not going to call him a child molester simply because a man with ulterior motive said he was one.

ME:
Just know that there are many straight molesters out there. Straight male-on-male molestation is a result of a sickie trying to gain and/or exhibit power.

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MY POETRY:
If I was Chris Stokes I would sue his ass..

ME:
No you wouldn’t. If you were Chris Stokes, you would be doing just what Chris is doing–because YOU would be HIM. LOL! You might be able to say what you would do if you were in his position….

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MY POETRY:
They’re already calling for ban of T.U.G. Entertainment.

ME: If this happened (and I believe it did) this is a small price to pay.

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MY POETRY:
Does anyone get sick during the first video when Raz-B mention “Jesus Christ” and starts reciting passages and all of that fake christian shyt “like I forgive him because Jesus wants me to forgive him” or some off the wall crap like that. I hate when people uses religion to further their own cause. UGH! Raz-B is just…I don’t have a word for it…But he needs help.

ME:
Why do you acknowledge Raz’s mental deficiency and then try to hold him to the standards of a “whole” person? That last statement you made is right on the money. He needs help…and who’s fault is that?

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MY POETRY:
And not just Spirtuality, I’m talking about Therapy. He may be scizophrenic.

ME:
Even if you’re right about him being schizophrenic, it doens’t diminish what the person(s) did to him to get him to that state.
LovelyLady

Sandra Rose Says:

musicisourhigh Says:

Sandra, do you believe Chris Stokes is innocent of molesting any young boys under his care or just Raz-B.
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If Chris Stokes has molested anyone that person needs to go to the police. If you have evidence that he is a molester then you should present your evidence. Otherwise we need to stop speculating on whether this man is a child molester and leave him alone so he can move on with his life. He has 4 beautiful children that nobody seems to give a damn about hurting.

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Some people don’t have evidence Sandra. What is rape evidence NE way? I mean I know you got the semen and all, but what if this happened years ago. Do you have to have a wide butt hole, or like the same sex, or have pictures I’m sorry for being so explicit but come on now. And IF he did this how many people do you think will really come forward. This man is a powerful man that can have many things done, (you see how Raz B recanted his accusations that fast), and plus he has millions of dollars which would be able to afford a powerful attorney, and we all know how money and law go together, hence R Kelly his ass still aint in jail. But some people just might want to let the past be the past. They have gotten over that part of their lives and don’t want to bring it back up. This whole story is starting to get real personal. But i ask again what evidence do you need? Should my family continued not believing me because i didn’t have semen in my draws when I spoke up? Yeah right, get real.

SMH SMH SMH SMH SMH @ your comments towards this situation.
http://yahoo.com Dr. 90210

Let me just be honest, the friend I was talking about is and was me. I was also molested by my brother’s Grandfather, my brother and I have different fathers. My sister and I both were molested. We never told a soul, not even our Mother. Just a few months ago I asked my sister did she remember it, she said yes, but didn’t want to talk about it. We have block this from our life for so long it’s all most like it never happen. If you have never been a victim of child molestation, then you have no right to even speak on whose lying or not. The man that molested my sister and I is now dead. I still don’t feel any relief. I was put in a very awkward position, I mean my mother’s husband’s father molested me, imagine how that feels to be put in that situation. I couldn’t even trust men for a long time and I really choose to lash out at every man ever created, but then God delivered me. It was hard and here I am 20 years later just getting over this. I never said a word until I met my husband. So we don’t know what is going on with Raz B. He may just be stuck between a rock and a hard place and don’t know what to do. Pray for him and Chris Stokes!
http://yahoo.com Dr. 90210

Matter of Fact this is my Prayer For them both!

Lord bless Raz b, give him strength and courage. I pray that you will grant him peace and a peace of mind. Deliver him from ever obstacle that may be in his way. Let your word be a lamp unto his path, lead him in the direction you would have him to go. I speak peace in his life, I speak salvation in his life, I bind up any and everything the devil has set out to destroy him in any way, shape, form or fashion and I plead the blood of Jesus over his life. Let your healing and delivering anointing saturate in his spirit. God I pray that you will get the glory out of whatever the situation is, thy shall know the truth and the truth shall make Raz B free in Jesus name.

Lord bless Chris Stokes. I pray that you will grant him peace and a peace of mind. Deliver him from ever obstacle that may be in his way. Let your word be a lamp unto his path, lead him in the direction you would have him to go. I speak peace in his life, I speak salvation in his life, I bind up any and everything the devil has set out to destroy him in any way, shape, form or fashion and I plead the blood of Jesus over his life. Let your healing and delivering anointing saturate in his spirit. God I pray that you will get the glory out of whatever the situation is, thy shall know the truth and the truth shall make Chris Stokes free in Jesus name.

Amen!

A positive attitude may not solve all your problems, but it will annoy enough people to make it worth the effort. – Herm Albright
http://www.youtube.com/queencee1 babyny87

My question to SR is this…why does she critisize Bey so much?
Mypoetryisdeep

BSoul:

What happens in your past does affect your present, but you always have a choice on how much you allow it to affect your present. So yes his situation, his tradgedies may have impact him mentally, and alters the way he think today but he had a choice on how to deal with it. Don’t tell me his only choice was to go on youtube and tell his story. If he go on and molest other little kids are we just going to blame it on his past and consider him sick and not guilty or are we going to push him to take responsiblity for his action and get help? Some molested kids become Molesters themselves..

I know Raz-B is not thinking with a full set of marbles, but he still has to take responsiblity for his action. I’m not going to let a murderer off because he had a rough childhood….Nor would I let a rapist run free because he was rape as a child. You always have a choice on how to deal with your past and present. I don’t believe that product of my environment crap. Because my orginal environment was filthy and I am definitely not my “hood”. I wish people would stop making excuses for him. The same people who condemn R’Kelly fans for continuing supporting him are the same people supporting Raz-B action instead of trying to get him help. You really want to help a fellow “Victim”, Plead with him to get help and deal with his past. The other posters who post here who are victims of abuse, i feel sorry for you, and I hope y’all can one day get past your past. I’m not trying to be insentive but don’t make Raz-B to be your hero…If he was your inspiration for coming out with your story then that’s cool. But don’t congratulate the man until we get the full story. I’m sorry I don’ see the courage you claim he has.
Bsoul

@ MY POETRY.

It must be nice looking at the world through rose-colored glasses. Asking RazB to behave in a normal manner (after being molested) is like asking a person with a broken leg to run withtout a limp.

Do all drug addicts kick their habit(s) the same way? No, nor should they be expected to. You deal with people individually. You can’t force anyone to get the help in the way YOU think it should be administered. Most sick people don’t accept the fact that they are sick.

God help YOUR kids if they are ever molested and don’t act in the manner that YOU think they should–in order to be believed by you and whomever else you drag them off to report the incident(s) to.

My thoughts and prayers are with Raz-B. I have no further comment in this thread. Of course, those who believe the Raz is lying are entitled, but I think Raz told the truth. My only reason for addressing you was that you grouped all of us–who think he’s telling the truth–together; I felt compelled to retort.

Peace, Love and Bsooooouul!
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Lou_Brock

Lou_Brock Says:

I co-sign w/ Lexi

I wonder how much Chris Stokes shelled out to get him or force him to recant. That recant is the most unsincere thing I’ve ever seen.
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Sandra Rose Says:

You people should make up your minds. First he’s advocating victim’s rights by coming out with these allegations. But now you’re saying he would stoop so low to take hush money from a pedophile???

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Actually, you missed part of my statement. I said, “how much Chris Stokes shelled out to get him or force him to recant” When I said shelled out, I was hinting at:

1. The hired legal muscle…
I think we all have seen the cease and desist letter that was sent to all the bloggers. Attorneys can be helpful in clearing ones name or in suppressing the facts. In this case I believe they were acting to suppress. Did they take it a step further and threaten a lawsuit?

Legal fees alone could be enough destroy the finances of a middle class person. Companies use this tactic to bleed whistleblowers dry, until they drop their complaints.

2. Did he hire some real muscle?

Didn’t Raz B looked a little scared in that last video? Was there hired muscle on the other side of the camera? Sandra seems to think Raz and Ricky were excellent actors on the first tapes, and believes the least credible performance as truth. In my opinion, the last tape looks unconvincing and his verbiage sounded contrived.

3. Or… was he paid off?
If so… I would agree that he was stooping, and there’s no excuse for accepting hush money from someone who has violated you.
Lou_Brock

P.S.

Sandra, I’m still waiting for your response to this question:

What other ‘outlandish’ accusations has he made in the past?

You used the above statement as the pretext to discount the brother’s allegations. I think we’re all still waiting for the list of “outlandish accusations”.
Lexi_xoxo

::Claps:: at #59
http://yahoo.com Dr. 90210

@ Mypoetryisdeep

you seem like a very intelligent young man. let me just point a few things out to you. everybody isn’t as blessed as you, to come from nothing and make something out of themselves. everybody deals with each situation differently, how I deal with things is different from how you deal with things. Your book is different from mines. My story may not end up a success story like yours. I would think that a brother that came from nothing would understand or be able to read through a little bit better then what you are doing. I think that for the most part people are just trying to encourage him to get through isn’t that what we are suppose to do encourage each other. If I may challenge your thinking a little or be a advocate if you would. You stated that we have a choice on how much we allow things to affect us, no we don’t, because the choice is ultimately God’s. And maybe just maybe God would allowed things to affect other’s more because maybe just maybe their story or their life and how it is potrayed will help change lives. So think deep Mr. Mypoetryisdeep. Life is poetry the title represents our birth and our name, every line represents every stage of our life, the rhyming represents the effectiveness of what God is going to do with every stage of our life and the ending well we all will meet a ending.

I do not feel obliged to believe that the same God who has endowed us with sense, reason, and intellect has intended us to forgo their use.
– Galileo Galilei
Mypoetryisdeep

Bsoul:

Some things i take at face value, others I take with a grain of salt. But I always call a Spade a Spade. To ask Raz-B to deal with his issues is not as big jump as you think. He already made the first step. He admitted he was molested. Next step is to get help to deal with his past.

God help you for even conjuring the thought of my kids being molested so your point would be proven. Don’t invite Bad Karma into your Bsoul. You must had felt guilty for your Ronald Goldman* Mentality to feel that need to respond.

FYI
*Ronald Goldman is the father of Ron Goldman the man O.J. alledgedy killed along with his wife Nicole Simpson. Even after the evidence proved O.J. didn’t do it, Mr. Goldman still won’t let O.J. live making his life miserable after over a decade since O.J. Not Guilty Verdict without nothing but a “hunch” that O.J. did it. This Ronald Goldman mentality is usally reserved for Ambitious Prosecutors or law enforcements who don’t rely on the facts but on popularity and emotion. But I think we can widen this definition for this particular case. Victims of the Ronald Goldman Mentality: Kobe Bryant, R. Kelly, Michael Jackson, and now Christ Stokes.
Mypoetryisdeep

Correction Ronald Goldman father is Fred Goldman..But we still call it the Ronald Goldman Mentality
Krysi – yes the same one

Chris Stokes is a man just like Robert Kelly. Chris Stokes has children just the same as Robert Kelly. They’ve both been accused of the same wrong doing. Their is evidence for R. Kelly’s situation and yet he still remains at large. There is no evidence to display the act of crime committed by Stokes, yet he is still at large. There is only one thing keeping these two very successful and sick individuals out of jail: Victims without courage to confront these demons and let the truth be told. How many days did Micheal Jackson serve in prision for what he has done, what evidence was provided, victims were criticized and completely ignored why, because of people like Sandra??Sad part is he, R.Kelly, and Chris Stokes will continue to be those bad dreams, those nightmares, those painful memories, that unfortgetable shame and confusion for whomever they’ve laid perverted hands on!! Stop judging the boy (Raz B) by his short comings regardless of what the motive was, you can’t change the facts, and if there is any fact to what Raz B stated in his first video then somewhere in SOMEONE’s mind those memories are stirring. We can only hope that the very children Sandra wants us to have so much compassion for concerning their father’s IMAGE, is not a SOMEONE.
Bsoul

@ MY POETRY

Last time with you, dude.

Evidently, I hit a nerve with you…now perhaps, you have an incling of what words are capable of; including your insistance that Raz-B is lying because he didn’t handle things the way YOU would or like for him to have. If he’s telling the truth and his mom ever reads what you wrote, how do you think she’d feel?

Just so you know, what I said was not wishing “bad Kharma” on your kids, it’s called illustrutory writing; something to think about. I said God help your kids should they ever be molested and I STAND BY THAT. With a parent like you, they will need Him! You’re so busy watching the second-hand that you missed the minute hand go by–learn what time it is and keep it moving.

I replied to you because you made a blanket statement about me and other who posted. Now, let’s follow your own logic: are you taking offense because you are feeling guitly or have something to hide? If you can’t stand the heat, get up out….

@ Lexi_xoxo

I see you too, I agree with what you said as well. ;^)
Mypoetryisdeep

BSoul:

WIth a parent like me? Hold up just because I question one’s motive, I’m a bad parent..SMH….If we started questioning more things we would be better off. And FYI God never leaves your side, so my children if they ever go through something like that will always have someone to turn to. My prior posts did not name any of the posters name but general said “you people”. Out of all the people that called him a liar you came at my neck with your backwards rhetoric..Maybe you are a victim of abuse..I’m sorry if you were and if this topic is too strong for you not to side with the alleged victim. But some people own grief won’t even allow them to see past what is really going on here. If that means you too, then so be it. Of Course you strike a nerves whenever you mention one’s kids. You say it was Illustratory writing I say it was wishing ill will on someone’s babies..I know what time it is, do you? Obviously you don’t because if you did, you would stop making excuses for someone you don’t know personally and start demanding accountablity. On both parties. But obviously that’s too much to ask for..The truth usually is.
one love

Where is Oprah? Someone needs to get in touch with her. Raz B needs Oprah on his side. No one can touch Oprah’s money, not even Chris Stokes.

One Love
http://yahoo.com Dr. 90210

sandra,

Peace to you and your mind!!
Bsoul

MP:
WIth a parent like me? Hold up just because I question one’s motive, I’m a bad parent..SMH….

Me:
I’m saying that you have warped ideas. In this case, it might infringe on you being a good parent. Doesn’t being a good parent entail listening without insterting archaic ideas about behavior?

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MP:
If we started questioning more things we would be better off.

Me:
Where did I say it’s not good to question ANYTHING? There is a difference in questioning and saying something didn’t happen because the victims didn’t tell it LIKE YOU WOULD HAVE.

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MP:
And FYI God never leaves your side, so my children if they ever go through something like that will always have someone to turn to.

ME:
What makes your children any more special than Ra-B was as a kid? Are you saying that God left him or that he left God. You are one judgemental person.

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MP:
My prior posts did not name any of the posters name but general said “you people”.

ME:
For over 20 years, I have been a people. So indeed, you spoke to me…as well as others.
;^)

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MP:
Out of all the people that called him a liar you came at my neck with your backwards rhetoric.

ME:
Fight fire with fire. I was trying to help you because I thought you were temporarily unbalanced; now that I know you have this condition on a permanent basis, I’ll leave you to your foolish self.

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MP:
Maybe you are a victim of abuse..I’m sorry if you were and if this topic is too strong for you not to side with the alleged victim. But some people own grief won’t even allow them to see past what is really going on here.
If that means you too, then so be it.

ME: The opporative word is “some”. With your first post, you had RazB pegged because he didn’t fit your criteria of how a victim would/should act. Finally there’s a semblance of sanity in what you’re saying. At least, now, you’re acknowledging that “SOME” people react differently to situations.

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MP:
Of Course you strike a nerves whenever you mention one’s kids.

ME:
RazB is someone’s child too.
;^)

Still you don’t get it. I never wished harm upon your child(ren. In fact, I wished the opposite; you’re so busy trying to promote your agenda that you can’t grasp it. I wished God to your children should they become molested and don’t react that way you think they should. What better gift; certainly not you.

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MP:
You say it was Illustratory writing I say it was wishing ill will on someone’s babies..

ME:
Learn comprehension. Had I meant that, I would be the first to say that’s what I meant, shoot, this is the Inernet. LOL!

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MP:
I know what time it is, do you?

ME:
Yes, it’s time for me to hit the freeway. I’m elated!

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MP:
Obviously you don’t because if you did, you would stop making excuses for someone you don’t know personally and start demanding accountablity.

ME:
Didn’t I just tell you what time it is? Speaking of making excuses for someone you don’t know, who introduced you to Chris Stokes?

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MP:
On both parties. But obviously that’s too much to ask for..The truth usually is.

ME:
You are deluded. G’bye.

*excuse and spelling and/or grammatical errors, it’s time for me to leave and I don’t have time to check it.
GWU

Sorry but I don’t buy this recantation! Chris Stokes is just so forgiving, as if the matter is done. Someone accuses you of anally raping them and it’s all fine after he reads a statement. WTF. Whether this kid was paid or threatened, I don’t buy this new information, put Chris right up there with R. Kelly and Michael Jackson. We as black folks need to stop this BS going on in our community. And stop blaming the victims.
Lexi_xoxo

Ricky(Raz-B’s brother) is fired up check it out:
brinabelle

Sandra you may want to recant this post!..apparently Raz B was forced to release this video and now he(Raz B) is missing..now shit is about to hit the fan, for real!..search the web!
MUNCHOSGIRL

BIRD AND LOVELYLADY I COMMEND YOU ON YOUR STRENGTH TO SHARE YOU PAST. I TOO AM A SURVIVING VICTIM OF MOLESTATION, UNLESS YOU HAVE WALKED A MILE IN THESE SHOES YOU CAN’T KNOW THE PAIN IT CAUSES INTERNALLY. I WAS MOLESTED BY CLOSE FAMILY MEMEBERS FOR YEARS. I NEVER SAID ANYTHIN ABOUT IT TO ANYONE, SHAME WAS A BIG PART OF IT. I ALSO FELT LIKE SOME ONE SHOULD SEE WHAT WAS GOING ON. I DON’T HAVE PROFF OF THIS UNLESS YOU COUNT THE EMOTIONAL SCARS THAT LIVE WITHIN. I HONESTLY BELIEVE THERE IS SOME TRUTH TO RAZ B STORY. I FEEL LIKE HIS RECANT IS PAID FOR OR PERSUADED BY FEAR!
Mypoetryisdeep

BSoul:
I’m saying that you have warped ideas. In this case, it might infringe on you being a good parent. Doesn’t being a good parent entail listening without insterting archaic ideas about behavior?

Warped Ideas? Warped Ideas is saying it’s okay for little kids to sleep with grown men…That black people have a genetic “stupid” strain…That President Bush won fairly in the 2000 election…That Hilter was a genius.. My ideas are no where near as warped. But it all is subjective. So another man Sane is another man insanity i guess.

BSoul:
Where did I say it’s not good to question ANYTHING? There is a difference in questioning and saying something didn’t happen because the victims didn’t tell it LIKE YOU WOULD HAVE.

Then why are we having this argument? Because I question not only a man’s motive but if his word can really be trusted because of his mental state? Because he has come out as bi then say he’s not that way, he says he was save, then tried to get some gangsta in his system (Peep some songs he did a few months ago)..How can you believe someone who is not reliable? How do you know when someone is crying wolf, or crying for real? Yeah I know, who would lie about having a penis stuck unwilling in their butt, but people have lied about stranger things.

And why do you refer to it as “my way” or the way I wanted him to do it? All I’m saying is the way he went about breaking the story was too hollywood for me even to consider he does not have ulterior motives. I didn’t pegged him as a victim because he didn’t fit the profile of a victim (whatever that may be) But because of the sincerity of the video. It was not a video of a man begging for help but attention.

BSoul:
RazB is someone’s child too.

And that something that no one brought up. “Where was the parents at?”

BSoul:
Still you don’t get it. I never wished harm upon your child(ren. In fact, I wished the opposite; you’re so busy trying to promote your agenda that you can’t grasp it. I wished God to your children should they become molested and don’t react that way you think they should. What better gift; certainly not you.

I don’t have an agenda to promote. I’m just trying to figure out why such strong opinions are drawn on a person with no record because of an accusation and prior rumors. And what kind of Star Power you have to have before someone stops and say “Let’s see how the case unfolds”. I guess Chris Stokes doesn’t have that Michael Jackson Star Power right? May God grant me the ability to raised my kids to become respectable adults..May God make sure no harm ever comes my kids way. And if so may God give my kids power to heal emotionally, physically, and mentally.

Bsoul
Learn comprehension. Had I meant that, I would be the first to say that’s what I meant, shoot, this is the Inernet. LOL!

I know how to Comprehend. And it doesn’t matter if it’s the internet, if it’s in person, or if it’s through the mail, words comes from thought. Corrupt thoughts invites bad Karma in. So yeah i may have read a little too deep into your statement, but even if it’s the internet watch ya effin mouth! LOL! Serious though I don’t say nothing on the internet that I wouldn’t say to a person face even in arguments about shit that doesn’t affect my life simply because of Karma..I could say a bunch of stuff to you right now, cuss you out, and not worry about you coming up for a face to face.. But I don’t Because odds are I would have a bad friday.

BSoul:
Didn’t I just tell you what time it is? Speaking of making excuses for someone you don’t know, who introduced you to Chris Stokes?

Yup you told me it’s time to hit the freeway. *Crickets*..waiting for a real response and not some corny line. Oh you don’t have another witty comeback? You ran out of them? Say Word!!! Well anyway no one introduce me to CHris Stokes but who’s defending him? If he did what he did he should burn at the stake. *Sarcastic Voice*But we don’t know if he did do we? And who’s corroborating (sp?) his story? Raz-B? Isn’t he from B2k? Wasn’t that the one who rap? You say that was J-Boog? Word? Didn’t he claim that Chris Stokes “Lox’d” them? I mean didn’t he say he felt “raped” from all of the money that was supposely stolen from them? And his older brother said he was molested too? And they put a video out on youtube? What!! If it’s on Youtube then we must believe him. Why else would he do it? I mean he’s Raz-B, he got cake of course. I know he got a couple stacks! I mean he still do music right? Wait a minute, you say there’s another video? ANd he say the allegations he made were false. Word? I don’t believe his recant, Somebody must have put him up to this! He must have got paid big bucks to keep quiet! Whoo that Chris Stokes is a monster I tell ya! Another guy that used to be a part of his team said Chris Stokes did the same thing. Uh-huh Child! You know if someone said it before then it gots to be true. But anyway, You hear about Remy Ma lesbian activities. Yeah girl, that butch said Remy licked the box! She is for real girl! She had a New York Accent and it was done in the hallway. Now you know that’s New York!And she put it on youtube too. She even called Remy up! How do I know it was Remy voice? Because the Caption said Remy, Duh! It was on youtube so you know it was the truth. And what about that Criminals gone wild stuff? Yeah I saw it on youtube and that mess was tight! Especially with the stickups! That has to be real! People don’t put that kind of stuff up if it’s not real.* Sarcastic Voice Ends*- See how stupid the last half sound?
https://www.sandrarose.com Sandra Rose

@ brinabelle:

I am done with this story. Raz B and his brother are two sad characters who will do anything for attention and money. You can keep wasting your time listening to them if you want to.

All his brother talks about is how Chris Stokes doesn’t help them financially. Why should Chris help Ricky financially? How about getting off his ass and get a job?! Does any job continue to pay you after you have been let go?
brinabelle

Sandra said..
I am done with this story. Raz B and his brother are two sad characters who will do anything for attention and money. You can keep wasting your time listening to them if you want to.

Im not wasting time, im passing time..how convenient of you to be done with this story after all this back and forth with the media between both camps..
Bsoul

@MY Poetry:

You need some help with your wives-tale logic. You are crazy enough to think your kids won’t get molested because “God won’t leave them”. Are you implying that all people that got molested were left by God?

What I mean by the “Internet” comment is: even if I were silly enough to fear you, this is the Internet, how would you find me? Therefore, what do I have to gain by lying? NOTHING. I don’t wish your kids any harm, with you as a parent, they’re already going to need therapy.

With that being said. I pray that your children are never molested–them having a certifiable loon as a parent is enough. May God be with them should it happen, cause you certainly won’t be, instead, you’ll be here arguing that there’s nothing wrong with Blanket Jackson because he didn’t fill out a police report. You sound like a cracked-out ninny.

By the way, your username is a huge misnomer; nothing you said is poetic, more like lunacy.
*snickering*
Mypoetryisdeep

BSOUL:

Damn. You still feel the need to respond? You definitely have issues you need to deal with. And Since you can’t have a intelligent discussion with someone who disagree with you, you resort to name calling and question my parenting skills. Typical…You turn a discussion with difference of opinions into a flamewar. I pray to God that nothing drastic happens to you, your child(ren) or your family..For when it does you willl go directly to the Media, instead of handling it in house. Instead of going to the police. WHich is sad. You will Probably jump on Oprah, write a book, write a moive, anything to promote yoru self righteous ass. You probably got a book out on Raz-B already in the works right? From Blue Collar Worker to Advocate in full 24 hours.. Sad… Fighting another man’s war within himself….May God have mercy on your soul…But at the end of the day I can’t judge you I’ll leave that to the man upstairs…But..Watch..Ya..F*ckin Mouth! *
charm

I too believe that Raz B was paid off or threatened. There is no way , with half of these in the closet industry dudes, will a grown man come out a say he was molested and and be lying about it! I’ve always felt that Chris Stokes was “that dude”. He is definitely a “pillow biter” and I hear Raz B’s bro’ is standing by his story and he says his hopes his brother comes back around and stand by the truth. We’ll see, but either way Chris is guilty in my eyes.
Krysi – yes the same one

Damn, Bsoul and Mypoetry are not playin’ up in here

*passes the popcorn*

*waits for Bsoul’s reply*

MY 2 CENTS:
I would like to add, if I may, that there is also no EVIDENCE that Raz B is lying! Just thought it may be a point significant enought for Bsoul and Mypoetry to speak on.

*slips on “Team RazB” shirt*
Bsoul

Mypoetryisdeep Says:
Damn. You still feel the need to respond?

ME:
Yep, don’t you?
;^)

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MP:
You definitely have issues you need to deal with.

ME:
Yep, YOU are the issue and I’m dealing.
I’m trying to figure how you conclude that your children will never be molested because “God never leaves us”–when other God-fearing children get molested. With your reasoning, your children might never tell you for fear you would blame them. You talk like those who smoke that stuff.

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MP:
And Since you can’t have a intelligent discussion with someone who disagree with you, you resort to name calling and question my parenting skills. Typical…You turn a discussion with difference of opinions into a flamewar.

ME:
NOT true, so far, you’ve said very little that resembles something intelligent. In fact, you could be the posterchild for Stupid.com–now what name did I call you? I do, however, question your parenting skills.

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MP:
I pray to God that nothing drastic happens to you, your child(ren) or your family..

ME:
::impersonating MP:: ‘Oh, no you didn’t just wish bad Kharma upon me. You don’t know how God is protecting me, you are a bad person, watch what you say, blah, blah and a big super blah’.
*snickering*

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MP:
For when it does you willl go directly to the Media, instead of handling it in house. Instead of going to the police. WHich is sad.

ME:
I’m not against going to the police, where’d you get that crackish notion? Raz was a child when it happened with all the extenuating circumstances that he had. This is why I fear for and feel sorry for your children.

Let’s just say the perpetrator is famous and I do go to the media. It wouldn’t mean that the event(s) didn’t happen. Just like in Raz-B’s case.
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MP:
You will Probably jump on Oprah, write a book, write a moive, anything to promote yoru self righteous ass.

ME:
Sounds good to me–that would surely result in an arrest; Oprah would but the perp on blast. Police don’t like being showed up on Oprah, no siree. LOL!

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MP:
You probably got a book out on Raz-B already in the works right?

ME:
That’s: “You probably HAVE a book…”. ;^)

If I did “got” one, you wouldn’t be able to understand it.
*snickering*

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MP:
From Blue Collar Worker to Advocate in full 24 hours..

ME:
Are you PMSing? You have a penchant for two periods (see your sentences) and making assumptions. Even if I were what you say, it would be better than what you are–a crackish, backwards-thinking loon with children in your care.

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MP:
Sad… Fighting another man’s war within himself….

ME:
Why not? You’re fighting tooth and nail for Chris Stokes; someone has to fight for the victim.
*happy dancing*

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MP:
May God have mercy on your soul

ME:
Thanks.

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MP:
…But at the end of the day I can’t judge you I’ll leave that to the man upstairs…But..Watch..Ya..F*ckin Mouth! *

ME:
Lookie-lookie. You talk like this with “the man upstairs” standing by your side. Did you ask him to cover his eyes?
*snickering*

You’re have no self-control. You should be using this time to spend quality time with your children–with you as a “parent” (and I use that term very loosely) they probably feel neglected!

Before I leave, can you give me Oprah’s number? I have something I think she might be interested in.
LOL!
Krysi – yes the same one

DING<DING<DING<DING<DING

*walks around the ring holding up a white poster board*

ROUND 6!
smhndisgust

I’m Sorry Sandra,
I just can’t agree with you nor anyone else on this matter. I enjoy reading your site and others, but this is one story where I’m going to have to make my debut. I’m So So angry, not with Raz-B but with those that want to jump on the wagon to ridicule, laugh, berate and say I told you so. Seriously those that lived through being RAPED-****ED-SUCKED (it is what it is) as a child (I refuse to use the word Molest/Molested because it takes away the severity of what has happened) know all to often, you’re scared as hell to tell anyone, and as a child/baby you’re scared that no one in the world will believe you. I didn’t tell anyone about what happened to me until I was grown, and married with children. I was a victim like so many others, and at the time, no my family did not want to believe it, they to like so many others swept that shit under the rug. I was five years old and he was 16 and my moms cousin babysitting me and my brother. Come on people look at that “RECANT” Video for what it is, truly look at him, his body language, listen to the words, listen to what he’s saying. If you can’t watch it, (it’s what YOU don’t say that speaks loud and clear), Let me tell you what I saw and heard from this :27 second video of him supposedly apologizing. He said he would like to send a Public apology for some “Tapes” that were leaked with out my authority (did you all not see in “those” Videos, 1 and 2 where he was recording Marques Houston’s Dad and Sister and Chris Stokes himself, this had to be said because of charges that could come from that mishap) and then he said, “uhh I just want to say that those allegations are not true WITH Chris Stokes and Marques Houston (not once did he say the shit did not happen of what he said was done to HIM) and I apologize for any hurt this may cause publicly, financially (PUBLICLY?, FINANCIALLY?0 get the **** out of here…….. watch it again, you clearly hear someone in the background with paper in the begining and during it until the end you clearly hear someone guiding him on what to say. They even go as far as to say, ” NO NO NOT FINANCIALLY” and then the Video Ends. Sandra what you should be telling or relaying to your readers is that fact that none of us really exactly knows what has happened. The truth will come to the light because those in the know understand that this Pedophile shit is the Most lucrative Underground business in the US and kids are brokered every damn day, and no one does anything. Oh yeah they are going to go after those kids, even if it means the death of them. Sandra I’m very hurt by your comments because I can’t understand how anyone thinks it’s ok to take away the innocence of a child-baby, and then when they become of legal age, it does not constitute that when they should be labeled in any way because of what some sorry ass adult did to them as a CHILD. I know that you may not care, but from this day, you’ve lost me as a avid supporter and reader of your site. It’s been fun, but I also know, after I hit the power button life is still moving on and sadly you’ve become just another bitter, loud mouth individual with no compassion. You too have become quick to blame instead of finding the real spirit that dwells within you to make you see, why in the world would that “CHILD” sit in front of a camera and say that he was ****ed by an adult at 11 years old, why Sandra would anyone do that if it was not true? There is nothing to gain from that, NOTHING. It’s Burning him alive, it’s eating him up, his Voice screamed loud and clear in that last video, even if you could barely hear him apologize. You know what?, I’m done. LATA
Bsoul

Smhndisgust, I am so very sorry that you experienced what you did.
aishashouse

@ Bsoul

Speak on it. I love the way you read Mypoetryisdeep. I hope u shut his ass up too. Sandra Rose you are so negative to me, I dont understand, aren’t you supposed to report the news, and keep your biased opinions out of it. I am done with this site.
Bsoul

@ Aishashouse

Sometimes you have to laugh to keep from crying. I’m disapointed in MyPoets but I don’t hate him or her. I feel sorry for the kids but that’s it. (S)he doesn’t know me from Adam and from the looks of it, I’d like to keep it that way. I find it funny that (s)he feels comfortable saying Raz-B lied while getting all flustered because I asked God to be with their children if they’re ever molested.

I think (s)he is close to Chris Stokes; there’s no other justifiable explanation for the stuff (s)he posted.

If you leave, don’t stay long, you’re going to miss the update when everything unfolds and Raz is “exonerated”!
ms.peaches

Honestly Bsoul & Mypoetry need to finish this over the phone!!(lol)I hope yall don’t live in the same city you may feel the need to take it to the streets you guys have taken this to a whole other level I feel both of your points the children are the most important no one would want there children hurt in anyway shape or form!! so I think both Raz & Chris need some heavy duty prayer if Chris is guilty he needs help I think him Kels & Mr. Jackson need to have an intervention!! or maybe share a cell 2gether to find out who is sicker than the other!!
shra19

This is my first time writing, I’m a long time lurker. This might not be posted but I have to vent anyway. I usually love this site but I am surprised, dissapointed and disgusted by this commentary. Sandra you actualy think this pervert is INNOCENT?? Ths isnt the first time this sick bastard has been accused of this. Aren’t you the gossip expert? Do the research! And as far as this “apology” is concerned. Are you guys even looking at the video?! The boy is acting like he has a gun to his head. He never even looked at the camera. His brother said in a radio interview that RAZ B was physically intimidated and offered money to do the video. Chris has bought his ass (literally) once again, thats all. Yeah, the way it was exposed was obviously done for publicity and financial reasons, but I still believe the allegations are TRUE. I really feel sorry for Raz B. He had his innonce taken as a child and has been brainwashed by this man every since. It happens more often than you think. Drug addicted (or otherwise unstable) parents pimp their children out to the entertainment industry and turn a blind eye while they are turned out by these filthy animals we called “music executives”(cough, P.Diddy). Its a sad sick world we live in, when people can be so blinded by fame and money that we will overlook child molestation. I know on here but I can’t believe you are letting this low-life child rapist slide. I know the world is full of celebrity worshipers but I can’t believe people are letting this child rapist bastard slide.
shra19

Sorry about all the errors in the above post, but yall get my drift. This mess done got me heated!!
Mypoetryisdeep

Ms Peaches:

Nah I would never take it to the streets over this..It’s just a difference of opinion and one not be able to comprehend fully..She alluded to the fact that I said my Kids are so special ( Mind you, I don’t have children) that they would never get molested because God will never leaves us… Nope not at all..I always believe that even when we’re going to our struggle God never does leave our side…God never left Raz-B side, he doesn’t leaves anyone side even in tragedy. Peep “Footprints” for further explanation. But I still think Raz-B is full of shit…Until he proves me wrong, I will call him accusation “bullshit”..
smhndisgust

@ Bsoul,

Thank you, I was so angry when I was typing that I see all types of grammatical errors, LOL. Thanks A BUNCH and Also I had a chance to check you out, tearin’ a new azzhole into that MP person.

Bsoul Says:

@ Aishashouse

(I think (s)he is close to Chris Stokes; there’s no other justifiable explanation for the stuff (s)he posted.)

Honey you are so right about that, he wants this shit to go away, but he’s only digging that damn hole deeper and deeper. His Camp was out in full force yesterday….. My daughters had me clicking on all types of sites. I saw this tonight on another site:

I don’t know if she lets a person list other sites but I’ll list the gist of what was said.

PART II OF OUR EXCLUSIVE INTERVIEW w/ RICKY ROMANCE:

TNU: In a press release, Omarion came out against the allegations that you and Raz B are making about Chris Stokes. Have you talked to him?

RICKY ROMANCE: Omarion is brainwashed. That’s it. And, listen, Omarion ain’t make no statement. I know that because I know his PR person. Chris made a statement for Omarion. Omarion doesn’t do nothin that doesn’t go through Chris first. And what he doesn’t realize is, Chris don’t give a **** about him. (deleted some)

TNU: Stokes has worked with several groups, Immature, B2K. Predators tend to carefully choose their victims based upon their vulnerabilities. Do you believe this was the case with Stokes?

RICKY ROMANCE: I can’t say for a fact that everyone got molested, but I know a lot definitely did and I won’t name names, but…. There was this kid Quindon who Chris worked with, and he’s ready to speak out. I mean, he doesn’t want his name out there, but he really wants to talk and come forward. (deleted some)

TNU: Do you believe Marques’s relationship with Chris began when Marques was younger?

RICKY ROMANCE: I know it did. Look, Marques had lived with Chris since before his mom died. I don’t know if you’ve ever been on a tour bus before, but we’d be at truck stops and Marques would get off and buy a box of Magnum condoms and, I mean, wasn’t no girls on that bus, so what you need a box of condoms for? And you know on the bus there’s a room all the way in the back. So all of us would be sittin in the front of the bus and Chris and Marques would always be in the backroom watchin’ movies, just the two of ‘em and nobody said anything but we knew what was goin’ on. Marques Houston likes girls and messes with girls, but he’s a bisexual man, everyone knows that.

Then the Interviewer Writes:
This sad story is certainly not over. I have several well placed sources on both sides, and have a lot of information I can’t share just yet. In fact, I decided to omit some of what Ricky and I discussed, because, while this is a gossip blog, it’s also important to me that the people I interview are protected.

ENUFF SAID……..

Sandra Needs to have those same feelings for CS, just like she has for R. Kelly and MJ
jessquart

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IMX and B2K in their undies

http://www.thatott.com/

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