Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) agents forcibly removed an undocumented woman from a Texas hospital after she was refused surgery to remove a brain tumor.
The woman’s relatives in New York fear she could die, a family representative told the NY Daily News on Thursday.
Sara Beltran-Hernandez was detained after traveling from El Salvador to New York without proper documentation in November 2015.
Her Queens-based family members have been working to obtain her release from the Prairieland Detention Center in Alvarado, Texas.
After suffering from severe headaches, nosebleeds and memory loss, doctors at Huguley Hospital in Fort Worth diagnosed her with a brain tumor last week.
She was scheduled for surgery but the hospital notified family members that she was removed from the surgery schedule.
“ICE was preparing paper work to get her back to the detention center,” Zuniga told the Daily News.
Frantic family members worked the phones trying to find someone to stop her deportation.
“We’ve tried calling everyone. We’ve called the White House, we tried calling Mayor de Blasio, we tried calling [former President] Obama, we’ve tried calling senators,” Zuniga said.
Beltran-Hernandez is listed as “in custody” at the detention center as of early Thursday, according to the ICE website.
“ICE reached out to the family to explain the process,” an ICE spokeswoman said.
President Donald Trump is expected to sign a new immigration executive order next week.
Damn. This can’t be life? Fvck.
But, but I thought that America was a Christian nation./sarc
They are so busy trying to detain these illegal immigrants, but are forgetting that most of the agricultural and hands on labor based industries are going to severely suffer without them being able to provide their services…..
So, the ultra-right “Christians” get power and this is how other human beings are treated. Shameful. “Ye shall know them by their fruits…Even so every good tree bringeth forth good fruit; but a corrupt tree bringeth forth evil fruit.”
Damn! This is just cold….
im going to be honest and I know i may face a lot of backlash. i could care less about what happens to hispanic/latino folk legal or illegal.
Cold blooded
Harsh maybe, but the harsh truth people don’t want to see is that hispanics don’t gave a single darn about black people. Period.
Swear … when I read the title I Said ” damn that’s cold.” ???
i seen that growing up. they were passive/docile when black folk had the numbers, soon as we fled to the suburbs they took over. now they harrass the few blacks left and they got their roosters running around chasing folk lol
DAMN
just….WOW!!
The plan of this regime is obvious.
They will enforce low income American citizens to replace the illegal migrant and service labor in exchange for social service benefits (food, medical, housing).
Low income American citizens replacing illegals by working in exchange for their food, medical, housing benefits is less than minimum wage.
The government will therefore profit off of social services.
This is sad and a shame
The law has no gray area.. Its black and white–while it may sound cold–the law has no feelings… It would be the same if an undocumented american went to mexico or dubai wanting surgery on their dime…The answer NO
I understand what you’re saying. However, your delivery was just cold. https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/8b6eabaf6b01acd6e40101f46df28dc7459c31e6ae124ff1ddca845193e03087.gif
Welcome to Donald Trump’s America, folks. We’ll be stuck with this for at least 4 years.
This is messed up….but I’m all kinds of lost on this post… So….they took her off the surgery schedule and ICE was pulling her out to take her to the detention center…where did the deportation part come in???
Either way that is ICE cold to take someone out of the hospital and detain them.
Also, Was Zuniga introduced in the article?? i don’t know who Zuniga is?
And just wondering what Obama gon’ do, and how do they have his number? I just wanna know what tried calling means….because i would like to talk to him as well..him and Michelle.
i digress….
I am floored!!! This is so inhumane. They removed her from the hospital though? Dayum!!!!
What do you think they do to Prisoners in Jail?
Blacks couldn’t seek refuge in Mexico. We would be put in jail.
I have ill will towards most immigrants because the government permitted the influx to thwart blacks progress. Legal and illegal.
That’s what i was thinking. They pretty much stitch the wound if they can and be like…well you good now…back to jail you go sir or ma’am.
This is a damn shame. smh. And sign another order saying what? I hope that one goes to court and a judge blocks that one as well. He is such a jerk and not president material #NotMyPresident
I agree! I see it everyday here in south florida. Nasty asses are worst then Caucasians because they want to be down sooooooooooooooo bad. Fugg em!!!!
exactly… Hell what do you think they do to Americans who cant afford Medicine?
This is not funny, but I really want to know what number she called for Obama…and how she got the number.
Yeah you are soooo right, there. You are just pretty much left to die unless you gather up enough funds on gofundme.
i said the same thing below..HAHAHAHAH!
Terrible.
Chile why they calling Obama though. Shid don’t call him now. They was talking mad ish when he was in office. Fugg em!!!! Her folks prolly voted for Trump on the low
She used M.alia cell phone, its just so happen they was having dinner together
I agree. And there’s a lot of gray area in the law.
Even if she’s up for deportation, I don’t see the point of pulling a sick person out of a hospital to take them to a detention center. If they had a warrant to take her into custody, they could at least let her finish her [life-saving] surgery before coming to take her in.
I dont understand What makes people think they are an exception to the rules …
Lmao!!!!!!!!! Chile Malia got her mama attitude. I bet she got the business lol j/k
Maybe when Obama was president she tried calling him on the whitehouse phone ?
Nail on the head. People should work if able to. The government is always going to be in charge of tax redistribution and most of it goes right into the hands of the elite anyway.
No one should be dependent on a handout. It’s going to make you vulnerable in the end.
So true though, so true!!!
lol, she was like dad
Alguien en el teléfono, te quiero
Mexico will attempt to treat you then drop you off right at the San Diego border line.
We tried to tell them. They are on their own. We gonna be alright. Always have and always will be.
I hope they weren’t all rough with the lady. When them folks mad they get all kinds of rough with ppl. Smh that’s totally sad.
HAHAH! I’m telling y’all Obama was a good dude though. He would take all kinds of calls though..he was a VERY personable president.
And this been going on since 2015 so this was on Obama watch she was getting deported regardless I would say *uck it get me a ticket back to Mexico where I know somebody and can get the medical care I need
yt people are not human, you see they thru our ancestors overboard for the sharks
They have never been civil or right. As for human, they have never been human or right.
and presidents used slaves teeth as dentures….pulled em right out…
It’s a dog eat dog world. I mean…literally America can be heartless. So much for love thy neighbour as yourself and if your brother is hungry feed him and all that.
Love is what we’re lacking. She’s still a human!
I know, I know….
Not my battle the mex etc…. wouldn’t give a bleep doesn’t give a bleep about me so I must carry on with my black self. Got my own racial issues.
WE gon be alright! WE gon be alright…do you hear me do you feel we gon’ be alright – kendrick lamar
real rap, black folk dont realize that helping to advance another race of people, means taking a backseat on an already crowded bus.
Actually this would not have been on the radar of the Obama administration. The hospital called because they didn’t want to foot the bill for the surgery. Shame if it traces back to the hospital its going to cost them big bucks should she die.
Those cunts!!!!! Ugh. Did you see birth of a nation? There was a scene in the film where they knocked out a slaves teeth because he was on a hunger strike. That visual had me crying and pissed at the same time. We know this happened and far worse as well. However, just seeing it was A completely different experience.
I’m peeping that.
“..literally America can be heartless. So much for love thy neighbour as yourself and if your brother is hungry feed him and”
“Love is what we’re lacking. She’s still a human!”
literally(WHITE) America can be heartless. So much for love thy neighbour as yourself and if your brother is hungry feed him and”
Love is what (white people) we’re lacking. She’s still a human!
Blacks have lots of love that’s why we get emotional
Frantic family members worked the phones trying to find someone to stop her deportation.“We’ve tried calling everyone. We’ve called the White House, we tried calling Mayor de Blasio, we tried calling [former President] Obama, we’ve tried calling senators,”
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Word of advice to the relatives of future illegals — they are not “undocumenteds”, they are ILLEGALS –facing deportation. Just call the press and tell them the subject family member is a transgender in need of transition surgery. Believe me, that carries far more weight with the libs than a pesky ole’ brain tumor.
The press will then do the work for you. They will call every dem politician and shame them into action. Schumer will hold a press conference and cry. Obama will interrupt his golf game and make an impassioned plea. And Lavern “Larry” Cox will rally the Hollywood troops for you. The illegal will immediately become a media darling and not only get asylum, but a book deal thrown in for good measure. There, problem solved. You’re welcome.
yeah that isnt even the half they did to our precious ancestors……its horrible
The hospital didn’t want to pay for the surgery so they called immigration.
When you make your arguments from now on, could you leave OBAMA out it lessons its impact. He is no longer the President. What happens going forth is on Trump.
But how would she or her family have standing in court since she’s not a U.S. citizen?
For a long time in the US it has been yes
Her family would. And depends on how long she was in this country, she has legal rights. This is all going to end up in court anyway because they are shipping them out before those rights are exhausted.
I see where this ish is going. I forsee plantations in our near future where they will force low income folks/ blacks to work for food and benefits. While THEY collect the profits from their labour. Good luck tyring to establish that though, you might end up with your plantations going up in flames.
Plantations and blacks will end badly for this country.
omg I mean this is just really sad!
The family member said THEY called Obama, so I was merely trying to let them know how to get our dear former Prez’s attention. Hundreds of dead black bodies littering the streets of his home town of Chicago each year — not a peep. BUT, let one g@y or trans white boy sneeze, and he was on Air Force One flying across country to wipe their nose. So I’m merely trying to be of service to the illegals in their efforts to get the attention of your typical lib politician.
WOW! THIS!!! SO TRUE THOUGH!!! sad…but true..
How this got back to the trans issue is beyond me. But make what ever argument you like that allows you to rationalize taking someone out of a hospital like this.
Ahhh, finally, someone who appreciates the truth buried beneath my sarcasm.
no it doesn’t lol. You know how much does former presidents get paid just to speak some where… they getting money cuase they still got a heavy influence over folks. And since Obama is the most recent president— his name still ring bells. Bush name still rung bells well after Obama took office. They was blaming what Obama couldn’t do on Bush lol
Cold blooded.
However….
We have to ask ourselves is she entitled to treatment because 1. She’s sick or 2. Because she’s in America?
Now that’s a read!
Ok let’s say you’re correct, but the practical matter is once these people are deported they will become so scattered that it will be very difficult and expensive to get back across the U.S. border.
Just like after Katrina. Bush’s people waited so long to evacuate the victims that they were willing to be relocated to places as far away as Alaska and Maine (of course it was a political move to dilute the strength of the black vote in NOLA specifically and Louisiana generally)
Trying to call President Obama. His phone message is “the number you have reached is disconnected.” Like he said when he dropped the mike “Obama Out” and from looking at his fab vacation pictures he meant it. Trying to ruin his lifetime vacation, got a lotta nerve.
Actually it does, at some point Bushs mess became Obamas mess. The economy was his, the wars were his, and now anything going on in this country and beyond is Trumps mess, This immigration shat is Trumps mess!
He gon rub the right one the wrong way one day…I hope the lady will be okay smh
it’s been less than 3 months but it feels like a lot longer. Hopefully he’ll get tired and simmer down then coast the rest of his term.
But they said this was going in since 2015 tho that was on Obama watch either way we can’t go to other countries on vacation or to live without proper paperwork period!! Don’t believe just ask mos def
Before everyone starts a riot about how unjust this is, let me ask you a question. Are you happy with the cost of your health insurance and the quality of your medical care? I would guess the vast majority of you are not. So how does it make sense to spend HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS to perform an operation on a person who is in the country ILLEGALLY. There is zero chance that this person will pay a penny towards the cost of this. Now multiply this instance by the 11 MILLION people that are in the country ILLEGALLY and then wonder why healthcare sucks. This is not about Obama or Trump or Republicans or Democrats. This is about people who do not contribute to this country via sales tax, property tax, or income tax draining the services of American citizens who desperately need them. People need to start being a little more sensible and less emotional if we ever want things to improve here..
I get that, but the suits will be filed in order to get courts to rule on this order. Her parents and siblings are legal citizens so they have rights and grounds to sue should she die. I mean seriously how did ICE know she was in the hospital.
Yeah see for me that’s hard to agree with.
I have several “yt” people in my family and several “yt” friends and they are not evil to me. I think that’s a blanket racist statement to make.
People can’t help what their forefathers did. In my opinion, we are all mixed. i know several people who are stark yt with African blood in them and chocolate goodness skin with European blood. Many of us in America are mixed with Indian and African and Yt…just all a huge melting pot.
I cannot make a blanket statement that yt people don’t love….when i look at places LIKE west side of chicago where black folks are killing their “own” quite often. Where is the love and the emotion in that…when you shoot and kill and baby in the back of the car…on principle. All colors do that, the mob does that, the drug cartel does that, “blacks” do that!
I know a lot of emotional yt people. We all come from the Lord and we all have consciousness…or at least born with it. This world and the ways of the world has seared many of our consciousness…and that does not just pertain to those with “yt” skin.
If any love be in your heart. Don’t make everyone pay for what people did to our ancestors. God handled those people and will still handle the corrupt. Honor your ancestors by blessing those who curse you or spitefully use you..and yes…IN MY LIFE..i’ve found they come in all colors of the rainbow hun.
Love and light.
Not at this rate, they are rounding up any and everybody. Under Obama he was getting rid of Criminals and such. I honestly don’t have a problem with it, But I need to go further and not just get rid of the brown people that scare white people, but get rid of the Chinese, Africans and all the White people from other countries that over stay visas in this country illegally not just the ones that help white people sleep better at night. If you going do it do it across the board.
Hopefully he impeaches himself right on out. He’s set in his stupid ways. There’s no changing orange cheeto
And Immigration is taking her to where? to that detention center which is where people go before they are deported?
When you are an illegal you don’t have rights they can’t sue on the behalf of someone who is not entitled to American rights by way of citizenship! If you went to another country and something happened to you your family can’t sue when you wasn’t even a citizen of that country let’s be for real
Now I agree with you in that everybody need to go
Your talking as if Health Insurance was awesome before hand. As long as Health is for profit ithings will never change in this country..
THIS!!!!!!!!! For profit indeed. It’s disgusting!!!!
But that’s not what they are enforcing.
Mainstream press strikes again. 1) Play on emotion–check, 2) Use “undocumented” instead of “illegal”–check, 3) Conveniently leave out details that don’t embolden the narrative (i.e. The ICE process is only mentioned in passing in the article, no details given even though it’s actually the most important part of the article lol.)–check.
There’s a Black inmate somewhere wondering why there are no protests for him, wondering what makes his crime jail-able but not the compadres at the southern border.
There’s a Democrat politician somewhere wondering why in the general election, Blacks weren’t motivated to come out to vote for a woman who spent more time talking about the plight of illegals than of Blacks, Dems’ most loyal constituency.
*sigh*
And the best goes on…
You are woefully uninformed.
Look around we are still on the plantation.
I know. Far worse! Far worse indeed.
Bingo
What do you want a cookie for knowing that.
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I’m asking but okay. i thought you were helping me understand but I see that’s not the case. Philly in the house for sure.
Health Insurance and healthcare have never been “awesome”. And whether or not it needs to be nationalized or made non-profit is an entirely different conversation. The existing healthcare system is what we have and it is already overtaxed to the detriment of taxpaying citizens. To use a tremendous amount of resources for a person that has NO WAY of contributing to said system is pretty dumb.
The point really was not that Obama can change immigration laws. The reason why they reached out to him is because he is a former President of the United states. And just like all other folks who hold or held high political positions— he has contacts and connects. And while no, he can’t just change the law… I’m sure he would be able to call in some favors so that she could have surgery and could probably be over looked for a while. That’s what I meant by his name still rings bells. Just like other former presidents do. It would be silly to think they haven’t called in a few favors on behalf of folks.
I swear I said this.But some people really believe WE ARE FREE. I am sure she knows this though. She is well informed. I believe she was speaking about physical plantations in every city.
I know that. You know our people need to see things play out to really get the picture.
Black folk aint going back. No way, no how!!!!
This btch will burn live on CNN for the world to see…lol
But that is our system, I work for health insurance they are stripping policies as I type this. Once the senate votes on what the house voted on in regaurds to Obamacare its a wrap. They are going to be kicking people off policies and charging you more for it.
HAHA! i do indeed! Keep it up, it’s refreshing, enlightening and comical at the same time.
lol i doubt it. blacks need to take few more steps forward “collectively” before i believe that they will fight it “collectively”
Really? Am I the only one who is calling you out on this ridiculous rant? No, my first thought was not about my healthcare insurance and the issues with undocumented immigrants who contributed to the rise in cost of insurance. My first thought is on the woman, who is ill, and needs help! Period! That does make me ignorant. It does make me a concerned citizen about others. America has the money if we stop wasting it on other things. Insurance costs to documented and born in America citizens should lower, there’s room. I could go on and on and on….
So blacks in your view need to be back on the plantation working in order for us to move further forward.
Say dat!!!! https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/f15a392400b52d2eb379dd637dd444872e0a563fc97a2da3f60504762a805a1c.gif
But what you just said has ZERO to do with this post. This post is about an ILLEGAL IMMIGRANT being denied access to healthcare that she has NO WAY of paying for. What happens to Obamacare is irrelevant. She is not here legally. You and I will have to pay for whatever services she gets via increased taxes and costs. Would you let me come to your house, eat all your food, and have nothing to feed your kids because I didn’t kick in any money? I think not….
She needs immediate help.
How much money are you complaining about giving that woman for her surgery? I mean, are you actually paying for the surgery? Dang! I’m sure there are many things you do here in America, where you were born and raised…which affects others lives.
Thank you for proving my point. Facts vs Emotions people. When we have healthcare services done in other countries, we pay CASH UP FRONT. You can sympathize with this person but you cannot take away the fact that she has violated our laws by being in the country illegally. Everyone loves to cry about how much waste there is and how things “should” be better but nobody wants to make the tough choices to make a change. Using your logic, I want to lose weight and get in better shape but I should be able to eat all the Big Macs I want…get a clue.
I get what you are saying, but your comment sheds light on the messed up part of this system. Why are we having to pay so much for health care period. It’s a cruel world we live in that causes folks who have the ability to save lives and don’t because of money. But when somewhat detached from the system in passing… like in a store, on a train, plane, or on a random street. You notice someone can yell “is there a doctor?” and a doctor will present themselves ready to help save a life FREE of charge….
But in reality this is what it is and your comment is the thought process of the system. and our emotions aren’t included in the thought process… only MONEY
Emotions or mental sense?
You try to educate people but they want to jump on the wagon and do what everyone else is doing without having knowledge. Thank you!!! And number one if she refuses surgery than okay will she can get help in your country they have medical physicians there.
I see both sides but i get what you’re saying. We can’t ‘be moved off of emotions, we have to look at the laws of the land just like we have to obey the laws of whatever land we travel to that we are not a citizen of. Makes sense to me.
We don’t have any more money we are in debt.
WOW!
Your clues are misleading and makes no sense. It doesn’t take emotions to know when something doesn’t make sense. They snatch a sick woman, from a health facility? That makes sense?
wow you went left with that. Nope not what I am saying at. I’m saying that as of right now, if they was like all yall going back on the plantation…. I think some will fight it, but most wouldn’t have the heart to die in the process.
In the event of an accident, you are absolutely correct. The human thing to do is to “save a life”. But this is not what happened. This person made the conscious choice to enter the country illegally. She continued to live here and use resources she made no contribution to when she KNEW what she was doing is wrong. Once she started getting sick she made no effort to go back to her home country, she stayed here knowing she would get the best care available FOR FREE. Basic life-saving services should always be free of charge but in this circumstance, she is going to get extensive care and services at the cost of not only hundreds of thousands of dollars but care that will not be going to an American citizen that rightfully deserves it first.
The law says do not kill. But I guarantee, those who are opposing health care, are very quick to ignore the law when they are directed affected! Kill one of their ones, like their child, and watch them try to break the law to get at you. Black men harassed by the police, and I don’t see anyone protecting them with the LAW!
People in their household complain they don’t have money, but when they look at how the money is spent, they will find lots of money.
I get it i do. I get what you’re saying. There’s what is happening vs. what should be happening. I totally feel you.
Yep, well said.
Exactly! Helping an immigrant and its associated costs isn’t the issue for me. Healthcare costs is a real issue, which Washington can’t seem to get right!
Feel free to send a check to her relatives to contribute! They have a consulate general (Embassy) who can foot the bill! If not, Medavac her back to El Salvador!
I do, when I pay taxes! Talk to your government about how they collect taxes and help other countries…and then we complain about the help we give them here. You all are not aware of the bigger problem.
You can suck my dog’s a s s. This is a human being something clearly you are not.
I see no need to rationalize anything. This person is in this country ILLEGALLY and is subject to deportation. PERIOD. Under the 1986 Emergency Treatment and Active Labored Act (EMTALA) the hospital’s only obligation was to provide such medical treatment as needed to “stabilize” the ILLEGAL patient. I am sure that was done in this case. Americans have no obligation to adopt this woman and see to it that she lives out the rest of her life rocking and knitting on a porch at Sunnybrook Farm. Let her go to the country that OWES her something. That is NOT the US. My tax dollars are for the care, feeding and medical attention given to AMERICAN CITIZENS. But if you want to pay for her medical care back in her home country, you are more than welcome to send her a check each month.
It is more to it than what is being put it out I believe I had to retract my comment from early. If her health is a issue I do not believe that ICE removed in dyer need of medical attention. And regardless of her citizenship it cost money to perform surgery and if she has no insurance or any type of medical to pay for this operation they will not perform. It is the politics involved when it comes to the hospitals please believe. I think that this is fabricated for other reason.
Life saving services should always be free. It should be human nature to jump to save a life if they know how… Though we are all humans first before any laws or anything else…. your comments sheds light on how this system would like to dehumanize us by making us believe all of what you are saying is more important than saving her life. If she has a tumor that can kill her… Save her life and send her on her way.
But as I said I get what you are saying. It is the reality we live in… and when you take human compassion out of the equation then what you are saying makes perfectly good sense.
My dog just squated, your lunch is nearly ready.
This lady committed a crime by trying to sneak over here from El Salvador. She is in the process of being deported. What about this doesn’t make sense? We are obligated to provide basic life-saving services to criminals in our custody. That is THE LAW. We are not obligated to enter into a costly procedure when her home country offers the same thing. I am sorry she has cancer. But nothing ICE is doing is illegal or unethical. She is stable and can handle being transported back to El Salvador. Again, FACTS vs EMOTIONS.
Credit pay for things and people priorities are backwards today. People are living 20 to a household and than you have 3 brand new luxury cars in the driveway but the house is falling apart.
Why should your taxes go to help an undocumented immigrant, when countless American citizens need help? Her countrymen are sitting in that embassy in NY chilling. Quiet as a church mouse. They need to step up and help! Or is that asking too much?
The more available health care the harder companies and the government come down on people. Doctor notes, medical waivers, surgeries, limitations, handicap stickers you name.
Her family has no case whatsoever, so long as the hospital followed the guidelines under the Emergency Treatment and Active Labor Act. In other words, they performed all necessary screening and testing and administered such medications was were necessary to stabilize her before release. They had zero obligation to perform the surgery unless it was deemed dictated by an emergency situation.
Sunnybrook Farm! Oh how i love this *grabs popcorn*
An immigrant is a person who obtains a visa or a green card to reside in the country LEGALLY. She has neither. She is violating the law. How is this so difficult to understand? Healthcare costs are a real issue. On that we agree. Giving an illegal immigrant $500,000 worth of treatment for free when she can get the same services in El Salvador does not help that one bit. FACTS vs EMOTIONS
The problem is a lot more broader than that! I believe the process to become an American citizen should be followed. I also understand, the process to becoming an American citizen was not always followed (slavery), (taking land from natives), but that’s a separate issue. The issue in America is simple….costs, if that’s the real issue for those complaining about people coming to America looking for better opportunities for their lives…and health. That is the American dream, which has been promoted for centuries. Back to the subject in hand…helping people who have not been processed to live here according the law American enacted…because I detest the word “illegal immigrants”. If costs is the issue with helping others, saving people’s lives, then why do we send billions, for that very reason to other countries? Why?
All the attorneys making the rounds on the morning shows were falling over themselves to get this non-case.
lmao the comments below would have you believe that all these immigrants are living in mansions across the US and american citizens are slaving our asses off to make sure they have NOTHING but the BEST life ever. We are even wiping their asses when they hop off the toliet. lol
Come on now. Living in cali and probably seeing tons of folks that are “undocumented”/”illegal”… They be out here working hard just to be able to stay in a piss poor places.
I get it, I do…. But it’s not like the majority of them coming here living this big american dream lol
That aint funny, Philly forgot to take that good ole Zyprexa taday. I’m reaching asking for help and i got snapped on. Well i guess it was confirmed i was right…i was just guessing. Normal folks would have answered me like..”That is correct. Not this one.
There you go again, deflecting my point of healthcare costs as the real issue, and associated my response to being emotional. I am using “sense”, as I see it, and it isn’t based upon emotions….Can we move from that please? Now, to the topic….if your argument is the costs to help a person who is taking from your pocket…then ok, your president hears you. Point taken. But if your issue is something more deep seeded and underlined, then that’s another concern, which I won’t address.
Yes, we are so worried about talking them down, we don’t do the same to our own people to get them off their asses. I’m not going to knock a whole race of people who come here to do the shitt jobs we won’t do because we would rather sit on entitlements instead of getting a job. These damn entitlements they throw at us to make up for slavery and we slop it up with a biscuit and claim it’s owed to us…. when in fact it’s to keep us complacent. A stereotype for a stereotype. …. If Africa is so great, take your American slave born ass over there and see how you are treated. Or grow up, fight your stereotype and prove the masses wrong.
Edited to add: with all that said, this is their fight and I wish them luck… it’s not my fight; we have our own bullshitt going on.
I agree you are missing the point of taking immigrants (who are simply people who move from one country to another to permanently stay legally or illegally) out of the equation and focusing more on health care in general. Sure that’s not the point you were making… But that the point they are making.
This ain’t right
Some American dream….”illegals” come here to do the labor “legals” no longer want to do and be mistreated by “legals” because they now want to do the work, they once didn’t want to do…I see why they leave their countries, because it is so much better here! Then again, that goes to show you how bad it is where they came from…
It’s a hard time to be human in this world. Trust, if they being so cold over this, just wait til they come for the ghetto.
So you can put a price on saving a life? They may be undocumented or illegal, but who’s to say the snobby ass surgeons in the hospitals won’t look down on YOU? smh. How can you ensure they won’t jut see YOU as a welfare recipient wasting tax dollars having kids and eating free thanks to the SNAP program? Ijs. You can’t judge or blame them for wanting better
Exactly
If they really want the dream, they would keep it moving northward to Canada who is willing to accept ILLegal immigrants.
Those so-called ‘safe-cities’ will not want to lose all of those millions from federal tax $$ that are needed to help them pay their local gov’t employees and upkeep of municipalities, precincts, courthouses and repairs on roads or other infrastructure.
I agree! The first step “they” are taking is removing “them” from here. The next step will be to remove “us” from here. We better start to see the process before it begins, rather than when we are in it. Haven’t the process began with imprisonment of blacks in groves numbers? Lack of jobs for the black males and promoting the black female? Images of damaging the black male as savages and criminals? Where are the Native Americans? Slowly moved from our vision and part of our (their) society. Who’s next? This is a movement, that began and proceeding…who’s next? If we think this is about healthcare costs, or illegal immigrants, we (well everyone else) are fooled.
You better watch it. Branch will say you are being emotional….because only he has the facts lol.
Can’t believe shit the media reports…BYE
Yup lies…
Lol, u are so bad
Lies…Mine was good…It got worse year after after year. I also remember as a child not having to pay anything for care but a $5 copayment…Again it got worse every year.
Los Angeles County Health Admin has been underwater for decades due to indigents without insurance. We have a history of caring for people no matter race, creed color or immigration status. We have no money to take care of our homeless, yet I feel some kind of compassion. I have cancer. I have health insurance, yet I can’t get the best treatment I need. It’s a fight to obtain care even with insurance and citizenship. Latin America needs to school their people. It’s unfortunate that they can’t provide sustenance for their citizens at home. It’s also unfortunate the hand the USA played in further fuggin’ up El Salvador. Refugees be American Made.
You should be happy right Sandra? Look at the great job your president is doing!
Welp, I guess she was taking away from all the other people that needed to have brain tumor surgery right? She was also potentially taking away from the caskets and funeral services from good “American” people should she die too right?
Right. We better not see anyone get emergency medical attention unless they are up to date on their insurance policies. If your child is hurt in an accident or needs a life saving service, your insurance policies better be all paid. And while we are at it, dont try to duck and dodge fulfilling your deductible because we will send the medical repo men for your family. Thats how the good old America is run. smh
Wonder who medical card she was using..The hospital called ICE I bet you!!!
Any person critical of Sandra or the action taken by the ICE are free to pay for the illegal immigrant’s lawyer, brain surgery, housing, meals etc.
Oh most definitely they did report her she is a liability too, and by the way they would have to know her medical history as well so it is a lot that is not being mentioned by who ever reported this. The physicians would have to have known her medical history of having issues to want to do surgery. MRI and they would have to diagnose her. It is not just black and white like this article is saying.
Right its not the truth. And this family is eating this up.
Of course they were, for the free publicity, and for what they hope might be a quick settlement from the hospital. But the law remains clear. No operation is necessary unless dictated by emergency.
Have you ever been to NY (my stomping grounds) ? If so, you have probably seen homeless folks in wheel chairs and hospital gowns. Usually down in the subway, sometimes out on the street. Know why. Because many of them, for whatever reason, were in hospital emergency rooms. Many have been living on the street for years and have all manner of ailments, s they need operations but can’t afford them. Know what the hospitals do with each one of them? Screen them, stabilize them, and release them back onto the street, because that is all they are legally obligated to do. And the same applies to this ILLEGAL whose family seems to think the entire US of A is a Free Clinic for her own personal use. It is not.
Dollars to donuts the hospital getting a kickback..She more then likely was using someone else med card…Wait do they gave temp insurance to illegals?
And they are bringing that mentality and way of living right here in our urban communities, it is horrible they way they live and they do not want to assimilate . I cant tell you my experiences living next to them. The are lawless and they come here lawless. Keep it there and fix your country. They come here and protest and demand all of what they are not paying for, well they should do it there. I have seen how one village in Mexico came together to fight to protect the people. So all this it is too dangerous is so hyped. The work here and get paid under the table and go back and forth to their country. They are always going back and saying how much better it is than here. They manipulate Americans to make them feel sorry for them.
They actually get medical, benefits the whole chabang. Dental and vision. Well at lease here in California.
OK so they get Medicaid..
Yes. I use to volunteer and a non-profit agency please believe they get a lot money. And it was center that helps everyone but the illegals know where all the resources are. They would get their rent paid bill and all they that.
I’m gonna climb my soap box. So black men r being killed by police for existing in our own country but yet I’m supposed to feel bad that ppl that aren’t supposed 2 be here in the first place Are getting safely sent back to their home country? GTFOH.
Definitely getting out…of…hand!
You know I live in Los Angeles.
You know I live in Los Angeles.
They are living better than a lot of Americans. Heck they get around a grand in food stamps with five children. I don’t no any black person that gets that much.
How can people be so heartless??
Ya pay for criminals, lawyers,surgeries,housing,meals,etc
No, illegal immigrants don’t get benefits. I used to process Medicaid in California. They don’t get welfare or Fs. They can get emergency medical for pregnancy issues.
Medicaid. I said Medical. Maybe not in your AFDC office but they do. Its probably someone processing them under someone else social security number because remember one of the Hispanic senators said they use ss# that are not theirs. But I know for a fact they get benefits. Food stamps and medical through AFDC, I sat there and witnessed it.
You’re absolutely correct. However, being the empath that I am, it is difficult not to be bothered.
Who was going to pay for this criminal’s surgery?
Sorry but I processed benefits for 10 years and Illegals don’t get benefits. Medical, is California’s brand of Medicaid which is a federal program. What you probably saw was them getting benefits for their Citizen children. We check SSN numbers through the state of California and the feds. It’s just not true.
Ok..
LA is a different animal, that’s true. But for the most part, it’s not wide spread. Most of them are going back home. I wouldn’t stay her either.
OH so you are not in Los Angeles, just curious, where are you?
God will provide somehow…you are heartless.
Ask Evander Holyfield how that whole God will provide scam went. He gave Creflo Dollar over $20 million and when his house went into foreclosure he got a parking space LOL…#sheeple
Scoot over for a sec, please, and let me climb up there with you.
I wonder how many of the people wringing their hands over the plight of this ILLEGAL, have spent even a nanosecond of concern over the 11-year-old and 12-year-old girls shot in the head in separate incidents in Chicago just last week. All of you black folks who are “outraged” about this CRIMINAL not getting FREE medical care might want to spend a moment thinking about little Takiya Holmes, who was shot in the head while sitting in a car, and little Kanari Bowers who was shot in the head while playing on the PLAYGROUND near her school.
And can someone point me to a blog where ILLEGALS, or Mexicans or Muslims are sitting around wringing their hands about how AWFUL black AMERICAN children are being treated, you know, with being routinely SHOT DEAD and all. Since some of you are so concerned about the plight of those folks, I can only assume that they have shown the same concern about issues that are important to YOU. But I gotta say, if they ARE concerned, they’re being awfully quiet about it.
ADIOS, ROSA.
We built this country and most of us can’t get healthcare. Why should she?
Right! We are giving up our seat and eventually we standby and watch the bus leave and another one never comes.
PLEASE. STOP IT. IF YOU’RE A BLACK AMERICAN YOU KNOW DAMN WELL OUR PEOPLE HAVE I WORSE THAN THEM.
BW ARE KILLED, TOO. IT’S NOT JUST BLACK MALES STOP CAPING FOR THEM BM DON’T CAPE FOR BW
THANK YOU FOR MENTIONING BLACK GIRLS THE SILENT VICTIMS IN ALL THIS
SORRY TO HEAR THAT YOU HAVE CANCER, SISTER.
Some of the comments are herendous! Have we lost our souls, minds,and integrity? May the Creator be with this lady. Peace and Blessings to her health.
Indeed!!!!
Not really a criminal in the true sense of the word .The guy who wants to paint our garage for 5 bucks an hour isn’t the problem .The gang bangers , the drug traffickers and the true criminals are .
I concur I’m smh well said.
Man I remember after my father died I went on a mental vacation to Mexico which is in the Caribbean I might add, i invited my bestie who is off the darker persuasion however I am not. When I tell you those racist Mexicans gave her nasty looks, would often speak in Spanish when we ordered food obviously talking about us outright prejudice made my already stressful trip more stressful so hell no I could care less about maria I sympathize with anyone who is sick but that aside she/he need to go back bottom line and I mean by any means. They bootlick the man that hate them yet they run to make him quasidias. We always wanna feel sorry for folk feel sorry for your own they hate you. Real real talk!
I had neighbors who were working an living here while building a massive mansion for the whole family to retired in, in Mexico. They owned a small house here and EVERYONE round an old lived together in the same house. They were pooling their money for the estate. It had land for farm animals and crops.
Then they go to the food banks every month. Meanwhile their husbands are working construction and toting rolls of bills every Friday while they pay $350/month in rent.
Where did they take her to an infamous FEMA CAMP?! IJS
If they come here ILLEGALLY, THEY ARE CRIMINALS, SEND THEM BACK!!
EXACTLY, PREACH!!
I feel sorry for her but there are countless people that have lost their lives because they didn’t have the money to have surgery or just to even see a doctor about things before it was too late. I lost my best friend because he had cancer and didn’t have health insurance. Take care of your own first. I’m sure they have doctors where she’s from. My best friend needed help, he couldn’t have went to El Salvador and got a band-aid to put on a scraped knee. All the money and time could be put in to poor people that need help here. I wish her no ill will and I hope god can bless her. I just hate the fact that shes taking from someone that lived here all their lives. I’m not say don’t help anyone, but how can you help someone when there are people in your country suffering. It’s just not right smh
I underatand what your saying, but the miss conception is these people are taking from us And its simply not true! We live in a great nation with many resources, but this country has always picked and chose what population of people should be helped. They’ll get rid of the mexicans and then target a different group of people. They could have atleast gave the person medical attention before sending them back. Its just soo sad ?
You really think so? Not being funny truly askin. Mexicans are some of the nicest hard working people I have ever met in life.
Yes God.. ive been reading these comments wondering the samething. These people dont care about other human beings .. its baffling
Meanwhile if every Mexican walked out if Trump hotels that place would fall completely apart. Wow this monster of a president has people truly fooled. I cannot
Lol, im sorry that was funny.
The tried calling Obama ? Chile he on an island where there’s no wifi nothing y’all better try dog faced al sharpton
I have learned as a black woman to let these immigrants fight their own battles. They don’t cape for us, never have and never will!
Sad situation, but let the El Salvador healthcare system pay for her surgery. We need to take care of Americans/American citizens first.
It does not matter who has it the worse when all minorities has it bad. we should not look at, or treat other races the same way we have been looked at and treated.
You just hit the the nail on the head, much respect for typing a comment worth reading. These other people on here dont seem to have a clue!
my question is to you think El Salvador would have done that for any of us. For some reason I just don’t think so
Gurl you said a mouth full of the truth
We have our own problems for real!
Yasss Lord
Believe ppl like George Lopez and Selma Hayek they don’t give a flip about us not that they have to I have been riding for myself and my ppl for a long time and it’s ok. Since I keep it really REAL let me cont to be real guys encouraged our youths to strive for excellence if possible donate time. I have never seen things as bad as it is nowadays regarding race of course I wasn’t born into slavery. Believe in something God etc help our own and love family. Forgive me for my lack of punctuations and run on sentences you get my point I often tell my husband I ain’t know English teacher I’m a healthcare professional HA!
Im not sure that they would’ve ?
YOU SOUND LIKE A CHURCH LADY I DON’T LIKE CHURCH LADIES CAUSE MOST ARE MAMMIES WHO SACRIFICE THEMSELVES TO THOSE WHO EITHER HATE THEM OR WOULDN’T PEE ON THEM/YOU IF YOU WERE ON FIRE AND YOU KNOW IT.