Yes, men can be gold diggers too as evidenced by Leicester Stovell’s lawsuit against NBA star LeBron James. Stovell filed his lawsuit in June alleging he met James’ mother, Gloria, in a Washington bar in 1984, when she would have been 15 or 16 years old.
He claims he had sex with the minor child only once, and that she contacted him months later to inform him that she was pregnant. Stovell, who is an attorney, said she told him she would name their child LeBron, a combination of Leicester Bryce — Stovell’s first and middle names.
But on Monday (Aug. 30) Gloria filed a counter suit against Stovell seeking to dismiss his frivolous lawsuit on the grounds that a DNA test proved he is not the father.
Stovell claims LeBron, Gloria and Santa’s elves tampered with the DNA test so it would show a false negative. Stovell is demanding millions in compensation for the loss of a relationship with a son that he couldn’t care less about even though he — allegedly — was informed of the child’s existence.
He claims he has been trying for three years to establish paternity, which he hopes would lead to “financial and commercial opportunities.”
But in a legal filing on Monday, James’ team of attorneys, Frederick Nance and John Burlingame, scoffed at Stovell’s demands, saying he is a gold digger (not in those exact words).
“Stovell’s claims for millions of dollars from his putative son and Gloria James are based upon rank speculation,” said the court filing, “that a man who claims that as a 29-year-old lawyer he got a 15-year-old girl pregnant during a one-night stand and who never contributed a penny in child support would earn millions in commercial endorsements by crawling out of the woodwork after the child he never gave a thought to became an NBA star.” Read more…
Stovell is no stranger to filing frivolous lawsuits for financial gain. According to public records, Stovell filed a racial discrimination lawsuit against the SEC in 2002. The SEC settled the case $230,000, while not admitting fault.
I guess the only question that remains is, when will the judge dismiss this latest bogus lawsuit and fine Stovell for wasting the court’s time and resources?
i aint saying he a gold digger but he aint fathering no broke nicca
Even if this nut job is his father, what makes him think LeBron owes him anything?
smdh @ this
just do a court appointed DNA test and problem solved
one of his kids’ name is bryce. how ironic….
@LEX DIAMOND
“i aint saying he a gold digger but he aint fathering no broke nicca”
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Lebron don’t owe him ISSSSHHH … #sityoarsedown or #gotothecorner @ Leicester Stovel – people will do anything for $ these days.
Get yo money Leicester, get yo fuggin money. We all know Glory Hole (Gloria) is a hoe. She didn’t even deny fuggin him.
Who administered the paternity test?
“He claims he has been trying for three years to establish paternity, which he hopes would lead to financial and commercial opportunities.”
Damn, this fool just admitting that he lookin for a fat payday. Well at least he’s honest.:shrugs:
SMH. LeBron should sue him for back child support if he’s really the father.
Sidenote: How can you sue “your” child for millions when you haven’t paid one penny for child support nor been apart of the child’s life?
This man wants to be compensated for loss of a relationship with LeBron, but how is this lawsuit going to accomplish that? It shows that he really doesn’t care about getting to know the person behind the name. All of these methods will only lead to LeBron hating him, if he doesn’t already, and not wanting a relationship with him, even if he really his dad. Sad
amatrex says:
Damn, this fool just admitting that he lookin for a fat payday. Well at least he’s honest.:shrugs:
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An honest Attorney, what are the odds? I want to know the statute of limitation in the State they had sex, it sounds like Statutary Rape to me.
ok when I first read the story the lawsuit was claiming that Lebron and his mom faked the paternity test and that’s why he was suing which unfortunately I kinda get regardless of the tackiness involved and there was more to the story than this. I read the actual court papers and while tacly to acknowledge he missed out on money making opps if they faked it that is wrong. They need a new test and if he is his dad than Lebron can make the decision not to deal with him… but get the test imo so you know for sure
Man, I just don’t care™ says:
Get yo money Leicester, get yo fuggin money. We all know Glory Hole (Gloria) is a hoe. She didn’t even deny fuggin him.
didnt the press claim she banged the teamate
I’m not sure why you fabricated this whole story. The real version is interesting enough. This man is not some gold digger. He is a Harvard graduate if I recall correctly. According to what I have read on news sites, he simply wants to have a relationship with the son he knew nothing about until he saw him on TV looking just like him and having his name (I don’t recall the name thing, but even your version of that was differant from what little I can remember). LeBron and his mama have been fighting him tooth and nail for reasons I can’t fathom. Its not like he can sue LeBron for child support. Hell mama could sue him for back support. He wants a court ordered, court administered DNA test. Not the mail order one LeBron and his scandalous mama sent him. Ain’t nothing wrong with him knowing if the boy is his once and for all. LeBron doesn’t have to like him or speak to him, but at least now he’d have an idea who is damn daddy is.
Ms. Everything says:
ok when I first read the story the lawsuit was claiming that Lebron and his mom faked the paternity test and that’s why he was suing which unfortunately I kinda get regardless of the tackiness involved and there was more to the story than this. I read the actual court papers and while tacly to acknowledge he missed out on money making opps if they faked it that is wrong. They need a new test and if he is his dad than Lebron can make the decision not to deal with him… but get the test imo so you know for sure
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Lebron and Gloria moved around a lot. I can’t get mad at them for sabagoging the paternity test. They probably can’t stand the man.
do statutory rape charges have an expiration date?
DNA isn’t even relevant. Especially if no one signed the birth certificate.
According to the law:
birth certificate signature > DNA.
The law doesn’t even care who is the biological father, it (the law) only cares WHO TAKES RESPONSIBLITY FOR THE CHILD. If Leicester was denied the oppurtunity to take responsibility for what MIGHT have been his, I think he has a legit argument.
ggouch says:
do statutory rape charges have an expiration date?
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LOL, that was my question. Sometimes ppl seek things and forget they were in the wrong.
@GGOUCH
“do statutory rape charges have an expiration date?”
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Yes they do.
Stovell is no stranger to filing frivolous lawsuits for financial gain. According to public records, Stovell filed a racial discrimination lawsuit against the SEC in 2002. The SEC settled the case $230,000, while not admitting fault.
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How is it frivolous if they settled with him?
@LEX DIAMOND
“i aint saying he a gold digger but he aint fathering no broke nicca”
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@Anna, the papers said she contacted him after the one night stand told him she was pregnant but said the baby wasn’t his. He did the math but she said no still and he gave her his business card, she had his address/phone @home and he gave her his fathers info in OH and she never made contact. He saw Lebron on tv, saw the resemblance, saw the name (which is related to him somehow but my memory is sketchy from lack of sleep, and made contact. They gave him a bs test through a ratchet company he described in the suit and then told him over the phone it was negative. He asked for a retest and Gloria showed her ass, threatened him and then began ignoring his calls/letters hence the lawsuit. He’s asking for a proper test and the 4 mil is for the lying and avoidance plus the fraud if that’s truly what happened. He effed up doing a minor but he met her in a bar and later found out her age after the act, that doesn’t deserve prosecution imo
I don’t get the law suite? I’m confussed on what? and the WHY? anyone is looking for compensation. Can someone explain, why this was even worth bringing before the courts.
@BIRD
“I’m not sure why you fabricated this whole story. The real version is interesting enough. This man is not some gold digger. He is a Harvard graduate if I recall correctly. According to what I have read on news sites, he simply wants to have a relationship with the son he knew nothing about until he saw him on TV looking just like him and having his name (I don’t recall the name thing, but even your version of that was differant from what little I can remember). LeBron and his mama have been fighting him tooth and nail for reasons I can’t fathom. Its not like he can sue LeBron for child support. Hell mama could sue him for back support. He wants a court ordered, court administered DNA test. Not the mail order one LeBron and his scandalous mama sent him. Ain’t nothing wrong with him knowing if the boy is his once and for all. LeBron doesn’t have to like him or speak to him, but at least now he’d have an idea who is damn daddy is.”
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The dude is a Havard educated lawyer who won a $250,000 lawsuit agains the SEC!!! Do you know how difficult that is???
She can’t sue for back child support unless she specifically named him as being the “responsible” father. If that is the case, that would only give his lawsuit more merit.
@Bird
I understand your statement clearly but Riddle me THIS…
If Lebron was just ANOTHER troubled teen who was in constant trouble and NOW is a young adult trying to get his life in order WORKING AT the Post Office or Local Grocery Store
Would DUDE still be so intent on wanting to know if HE WAS Lebron’s FATHER
Legally it was statutory rape, but shoot he met a cute young thang at the club that allowed a tall good looking stranger to raw dog her. He didn’t know she was a fast ass child.
Man once again we agree on something lol
I would have sued too. damn i’m broke right now and looking for someone to sue.
Elove this man has no children and is older… I think he would though I doubt the 4 mil would come in play
Thanks Ms Everything. Makes more sense now.
@ELOVE
“I understand your statement clearly but Riddle me THIS…
If Lebron was just ANOTHER troubled teen who was in constant trouble and NOW is a young adult trying to get his life in order WORKING AT the Post Office or Local Grocery Store
Would DUDE still be so intent on wanting to know if HE WAS Lebron’s FATHER ”
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He was attempting to get in the child’s life BEFORE he became “King James.”
If it is proved that he is the father, couldn’t the mother sue for back child support if she did at one point try to contact him to let him know that he impregnated her? Then also isnt it obvious that he is clearly trying to cash in on LeBron’s celebrity? I mean u dont see any other deadbeat dad suing their kid for not spending time with them, if so there would be alot of people with check garnished. I dont think he has a case…Look at Shaq’s biological father, now he knew that he had a son and he never bothered to come around when he was growing up, instead his step-father stepped in and stepped up. I remembr with Shaq’s father was on Maury with Shaq’s half brother and sister a few years back playing the sympathy card, where is his lawsuit
@Ms Here is what I don’t get. This man is/was an attorney, so why in the world would he agree to the DNA test that they set up. If what you and “they gave him a bs test through a ratchet company he described in the suit and then told him over the phone it was negative,” then that is his stupidity. He is not a lay person. He knew better than that.
Correction… If what you said is correct… Sorry.
Cheeks this man was told he wasn’t the father and later saw the resemblance and heard the story about him not having a dad and remembered Gloria. If true he did nothing wrong. This has been going on outside the courts for several years since before Lebron signed with Cleveland
@CHEEKS
“If it is proved that he is the father, couldn’t the mother sue for back child support if she did at one point try to contact him to let him know that he impregnated her? Then also isnt it obvious that he is clearly trying to cash in on LeBron’s celebrity? I mean u dont see any other deadbeat dad suing their kid for not spending time with them, if so there would be alot of people with check garnished. I dont think he has a case…Look at Shaq’s biological father, now he knew that he had a son and he never bothered to come around when he was growing up, instead his step-father stepped in and stepped up. I remembr with Shaq’s father was on Maury with Shaq’s half brother and sister a few years back playing the sympathy card, where is his lawsuit ”
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No, she can’t sue for back child support because she never filed a support order through the court naming him as the father. If she had, it would only strengthen his argument.
In the suit he says he did and brought up concerns but after the back and forth the fact that they agreed he did it despite his concerns. When he got the results via phone then he asked for a retest at a different facility. His court docs are extrememly detailed and they do have similar features
If he thought Lebron was his son why didn’t he take himself to the nearest court house and file a paternity suit when Lebron was being hyped as the next “Big” thing in High Schhol? He was a minor then and it would have been a heck of a lot easier getting the test done then. I heard about him while he was in school so I’m sure this man did too.
Good morning fam….
Stovell is demanding millions in compensation for the loss of a relationship ……
GTFOH is he serious….he’s claiming money for that?
Regardless of where he met her, he made it clear that he did not want to be bothered when she came back around saying she was pregnant. So why, after all this time is it even important to try and sue someone because HE thinks THEY owe him something?? Since he is so educated and has been successful in suing the SEC maybe he should go and find some other stuff to do with his time.
Where was he when lebron was a child and lebron’s mom had to raise him without his help? Where was he all the years that lebron needed things in everday life and his mom and someone else were responsible for getting those things for him and making things happen- Im talking about before he even became a basketball phenom in high school. Leicester Stovell was off somewhere doing his own thing and since that was the case he needs to continue doing whatever the hell it was he’s been doing and leave these people alone. They don’t owe him anything.
I WONDER IF GLORIA HAD ANYTHING TO DO WITH HIS SON’S NAME BRYCE…
SOMETHING IS REALLY FISHY ABOUT THE WHOLE STORY.
ALL LEBRON HAS TO DO IS MAKE THE MAN SIGN LEGAL PAPERS STAING THAT HE WOULD NOT TRY TO GET ANY MONEY FROM HIM.
AND AS FOR GLORIA :chickenhead:, SHE NEEDS TO GO SIT HER BEHIND DOWN LIL FAST TAIL HEFFA.
THAT MAN ISN’T A FOOL HE KNOWS WHAT HE IS DOING.
A real man or a real father would be notifying the court that he wants to establish paternity so that he can have a relations hip with his son, if he is in fact his….He wouldn’t be doing like this man (SUING
and demanding millions in compensation for the loss of a relationship).
Any moral person would start from where he is today and try to make a relationship with his son, not sue. You don’t sue someone for stuff like this.
Lebron does look a lot like Mr. Stovell. #imjustsaying
Just take another paternity test and let’s move on.
If Mr. Stovell is Lebron’s father, Lebron’s mother should be ashamed of herself for keeping Lebron from developing a relationship with his father.
@SHANNON 04
“Regardless of where he met her, he made it clear that he did not want to be bothered when she came back around saying she was pregnant.”
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Huh???
Where are you getting that from? Did you NOT read the statements or ANY other articles regarding this? He has tried for YEARS to get paternity tests and to be involved with LeBron’s life BEFORE he was “King James.”
Glory Hole thwarted him at every attempt, and moved constantly. She had all of his contact information for years.
He effed up doing a minor but he met her in a bar and later found out her age after the act, that doesn’t deserve prosecution imo
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That’s a really good point. However, it also an example of what reckless one night stands can lead to. He could have went to jail for statutory rape and she could still POSSIBLY have a child by a GOLDDIGGER. Does anybody believe in at least TRYING to get to know the person you sleep with first?
#dobetterpeople
@Ms. Everything
I don’t know DUDE so I don’t HAVE A CLUE what his intentions are/were regarding LeBron James but the STATUTORY RAPE Incident doesn’t automatically put him in a HONORABLE LIGHT to me
@Man…
BEFORE he became “King James”
LeBron was a known commodity throughout Ohio since the 8th grade and A Nationally KNOWN Pro Prospect by the 10th grade destined for NBA Stardom !!!
Him saying that he gave Gloria his fathers contact info, that Lebron’s “grandfather” lives in Ohio and she told him from the jump what his name would be makes him look like a golddigger.
Lebron had been a school star since middle schhol. You mean to tell this “attorney” didn’t know the proper procedure to securing a DNA test thru the court system? Whatevea. He knew and I think that he didn’t try and contact them until Lebron was in the NBA. I’d okey doke his azz too.
@SHANNON 04
“A real man or a real father would be notifying the court that he wants to establish paternity so that he can have a relations hip with his son, if he is in fact his….He wouldn’t be doing like this man (SUING
and demanding millions in compensation for the loss of a relationship).
Any moral person would start from where he is today and try to make a relationship with his son, not sue. You don’t sue someone for stuff like this.”
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You need an address to properly “serve” someone. Something he couldn’t locate and Gloria refused to provide.
If he thought Lebron was his son why didn’t he take himself to the nearest court house and file a paternity suit when Lebron was being hyped as the next “Big” thing in High Schhol? He was a minor then and it would have been a heck of a lot easier getting the test done then. I heard about him while he was in school so I’m sure this man did too.
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ELove says:
If Lebron was just ANOTHER troubled teen who was in constant trouble and NOW is a young adult trying to get his life in order WORKING AT the Post Office or Local Grocery Store
Would DUDE still be so intent on wanting to know if HE WAS Lebron’s FATHER
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Shoot, don’t ask me. I’m only commenting on the situation at hand.
@46 Thank you! I know you are in the Midwest so you know he’s been big shyt for a long time in Ohio! If this man knew his name and his paternal family lives in Ohio he should have driven his azz there and filed a paternity test at the local courthouse! Problem solved.Don’t wait until the man is grown and then get pissy cause him/his mama don’t want you around.
@Man
You’re right. I would think that a real dad would just want to form a relationship with his son, not sue.
@E LOVE
“BEFORE he became “King James”
LeBron was a known commodity throughout Ohio since the 8th grade and A Nationally KNOWN Pro Prospect by the 10th grade destined for NBA Stardom !!!”
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Yes, BEFORE he became “King James.” Do you have any idea how many highly ranked COLLEGE stars wash out…. let alone middle school and high school.
Do you know how many “Pro Prospects” there are in the 10th grade??? It’s akin to buying a lottery ticket. There was a kid ranked higher than Lebron WHILE he was in high school and the nigga flamed out before college. Dayum I can’t remember that cat’s name…
If he turns out to be the father, Lebron should sue for back child support. Adding all fees his mother paid for basketball, down to the socks.
#satdown
@Bird…
I Feel Ya !!!!!
HE’S ENTITLED TO A RELATIONSHIP THAT IS ALL-NOTHING MORE
FOR THOSE WHO FEEL HE’S ENTITLED TO MONEY-THAT RULING WOULD OPEN A WHOLE NOTHER PANDORA’S BOX
IF HE CAN SUE FOR NOT HAVING A RELATIONSHIP-ALL THESE FATHERLESS CHILDREN SHOULD BE ABLE TO SUE THEIR MIA DADDIES FOR FAILURE TO HAVE ONE ON TOP OF ANY CHILD SUPPORT THEY MAY HAVE RECEIVED
THIS WORLD IS ALL FOR MAN-ANY WAY A MAN CAN GET AHEAD DESPITE WHOMEVER’S BACK HE HAS TO STEP ON TO GET IT OR NO MATTER HOW MANY RESPONSIBILITIES HE NEGLECTS-SOCIETY TYPICALLY UPHOLDS MEN TO NO STANDARDS WHAT SO EVER
BUT YET IN STILL WILL CALL A WOMAN ALL OUT HER NAME-FOR SEEKING A QUICK PAY DAY
I GET IT-IT’S ONLY OK WHEN A MAN DOES IT-LOL THE IRONY
@SHANNON 04
“You’re right. I would think that a real dad would just want to form a relationship with his son, not sue.”
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So people should do NOTHING if they are denied a RIGHT to their OWN children????
Just chuck it up as some bullchit???
WTF?
If he gave a damn about having a relationship with his son, then he wouldn’t be suing him millions.
I don’t know him either I’ve just read the story on other sites and read the court docs… I could easily be wrong and I think the money part of the suit is very tacky but I want to see how it plays out. I can’t fault men for stat rape when they meet someone in a location where a minor has no business legally or any other way and therefore assumes she’s the proper age when taking her home. One night stands are bad, yes… one night stands raw are worse…. very true but they happen every day worldwide
I can only worry about what I do with my puzzy (sorry to be blunt.. I’m really tired)
@OH PRETTY 1
“If he turns out to be the father, Lebron should sue for back child support. Adding all fees his mother paid for basketball, down to the socks. #satdown”
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¿¿¿¿¿¿Why do people keep saying this about child support??????
She knew EVERYTHING about dude to file a child support order against him AND CHOSE NOT TO!!! That was HER DECISION.
This dude was a lawyer, the nigga couldn’t HIDE from a child support order. SHE (GLORIA) CHOSE NOT TO FILE A CHILD SUPPORT ORDER ON HIM, THERE IS NO “BACK CHILD SUPPORT” TO SUE FOR.
SO MANY PEOPLE SPEW YOU CAN’T MAKE A MAN BE A FATHER-WELL DAMN YOU CAN’T MAKE THIS MAN ACCEPT YOU AS HIS FATHER EITHER
IF YOU CAN ABANDON A CHILD AND SOCIETY SEENS TO TELL CHILDREN TO ACCEPT IT AND MOVE ON-WELL THIS NICCA AINT NO DIFFERENT
DAMN HIS FEELINGS-IF IT’S GOOD FOR SO MANY CHILDREN IT’S DAMN SURE SHOULD BE GOOD ENOUGH FOR THIS NICCA
KICK ROCKS
@MIRS MOMMY
“If he gave a damn about having a relationship with his son, then he wouldn’t be suing him millions. ”
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He isn’t suing LEBRON.
He’s suing trife GLORIA.
Man, I just don’t care™ says:
@MIRS MOMMY
“If he gave a damn about having a relationship with his son, then he wouldn’t be suing him millions. ”
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He isn’t suing LEBRON.
He’s suing trife GLORIA.
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Oh, he’s suing Gloria???
If that’s the case, he shoulda tried to sue her azz/get a DNA test a long time ago.
@INTENSE MOCHA
“HE’S ENTITLED TO A RELATIONSHIP THAT IS ALL-NOTHING MORE
FOR THOSE WHO FEEL HE’S ENTITLED TO MONEY-THAT RULING WOULD OPEN A WHOLE NOTHER PANDORA’S BOX
IF HE CAN SUE FOR NOT HAVING A RELATIONSHIP-ALL THESE FATHERLESS CHILDREN SHOULD BE ABLE TO SUE THEIR MIA DADDIES FOR FAILURE TO HAVE ONE ON TOP OF ANY CHILD SUPPORT THEY MAY HAVE RECEIVED
THIS WORLD IS ALL FOR MAN-ANY WAY A MAN CAN GET AHEAD DESPITE WHOMEVER’S BACK HE HAS TO STEP ON TO GET IT OR NO MATTER HOW MANY RESPONSIBILITIES HE NEGLECTS-SOCIETY TYPICALLY UPHOLDS MEN TO NO STANDARDS WHAT SO EVER
BUT YET IN STILL WILL CALL A WOMAN ALL OUT HER NAME-FOR SEEKING A QUICK PAY DAY
I GET IT-IT’S ONLY OK WHEN A MAN DOES IT-LOL THE IRONY”
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This got more open holes than Chippy D doin a gang bang.
@Man..I was a little confused on the facts because I did read some stuff elsewhere.
Even if Gloria did move constantly that’s his fault for sleeping with someone that he didn’t even know. Men and women can be trifling and that’s what happened. She’s no different than millions of other women that get pregnant and then decide “I don’t need to include him in my childs life at all, i’m out”. Sad, but that’s always a possibility cause women are free to choose what they want to do and the men almost have no say so at all- except through the legal system. @corporate..I agree people have to do better.
@Man…
Ohhhhh I’M VERY AWARE… Trust Me (MORE THAN YOU !!!!!)
And LeBron James was BONAFIDE Destined (Real…) ONLY a career injury or Death was keeping him from NBA Stardom because LeBron was a ONCE IN A GENERATION type of basketball athlete JUST LIKE Kareem, Magic, C-Webb, KG
@MIRS MOMMY
“Oh, he’s suing Gloria???
If that’s the case, he shoulda tried to sue her azz/get a DNA test a long time ago.”
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YOU NEED A VALID ADDRESS TO PROPERLY SERVE SOMEONE TO SUE! That’s the law, how can you “defend” yourself if you don’t know about the lawsuit????
She purposely never gave him an address so she couldn’t be served!
Who gives their real name and business card to a woman/girl/floozy they had a one night stand with? Thats oneof the things they usually rifle through your pockets for while you’re sleeping it off.
Someone asked if he can be charged with statytory even if she was in aplace that doctatedher being 21. The answer is yes. (I don’t agree but its true)
This man can sue GLORIA for loss of consortium if, in fact, he really tried to get tested while James was a minor and she railroaded it. But this will only apply if he IS the father. But why would she let the pimpin’ ex con help out if this upstanding gentlemen wanted to do the right thing?
I believe there is some merot to this story and if theman doesn’thave any children he may just wanna do the make up thing with his grandsons. Happens all the time.
@SHANNON
“..I was a little confused on the facts because I did read some stuff elsewhere.
Even if Gloria did move constantly that’s his fault for sleeping with someone that he didn’t even know. Men and women can be trifling and that’s what happened. She’s no different than millions of other women that get pregnant and then decide “I don’t need to include him in my childs life at all, i’m out”. Sad, but that’s always a possibility cause women are free to choose what they want to do and the men almost have no say so at all- except through the legal system. ”
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I agree, he was at fault for “not knowing who he as sleeping with” just as much as she is as fault for denying him the oppurtunity to be in LeBron’s life. Or at least finding out if that is his child.
“Sad, but that’s always a possibility cause women are free to choose what they want to do and the men almost have no say so at all- except through the legal system.”-Shannon 04
Correct (and they call this a “Man’s World), and he is using the ONE option available to him. I don’t understand why it seems like he is not being supported. If he did NOTHING everyone would be calling him a dead beat. SMH.
Man, I just don’t care™ says:
So people should do NOTHING if they are denied a RIGHT to their OWN children????
Just chuck it up as some bullchit???
WTF?
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I didn’t say that. All I’m saying is hopefully the court will be on Mr. Stovell’s side and provide that test, but Mr. Stovell should be seeking to form a relationship with his son.
WHAT’S GOOD FOR THE GOOSE IS GOOD FOR THE GANDER DAMMIT!
AND HE HASN’T BEEN PROVEN THE FATHER YET, THERE IS STILL A POSSIBILITY HE MAY NOT BE THE FATHER
HE’S LOOKING FOR A PAYDAY PLAIN & SIMPLE-WHY WAIT UNTIL YOU ARE A LAWYER TO PURSUE PATERNITY-HOW CONVENIENT
IF HE WEREN’T A LAWYER I HIGHLY DOUBT HE WOULD EVEN HAVE A LAWSUIT AND WHY DO I SAY THAT-CAUSE HE COULD HAVE HIRED A LAWYER AT AGE 21 AND PURSUED HIS CASE WAY BACK THEN-IF HE REALLY WANTED TO KNOW
AND MOST OF THE TIME PEOPLE SUE WHEN THEY KNOW THEY CAN GET PAID-IF LEBRON WAS BROKE-WOULD HE STILL HAVE A LAWSUIT FOR SO MUCH-NAW PROBABLY NOT
Sandra writes, “Stovell is no stranger to filing frivolous lawsuits for financial gain. According to public records, Stovell filed a racial discrimination lawsuit against the SEC in 2002. The SEC settled the case $230,000, while not admitting fault.”
How is Stovell’s lawsuit against the SEC considered frivolous when the Sec settled the case for $230,000.? Blank stare.
Frivolous means without merit. The matter was not thrown out by the presiding judge and the defendant settled.
Sidebar: Your baby daddy is a Princeton and University of Chicago Law School grad who was senior legal adviser to the U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission.
Why did Lebron’s mama want to live in the projects? Blank stare.
Shannon we must do better but once the child is here and the act is done it makes no sense to go back and say you should done this that or the other
it’s done, what else is there to do but deal and make a consious effort not to do it yourself or again if you’re the one who did it…. BUT if she kept this man from his child, sold a sob story about doing it alone when the daddy wouldn’t stand up, robbed her child of knowing his father and family than she deserves whatever comes to her, there is no excuse for that unless he was beating her- which isn’t the case
@PRINCESS
“Someone asked if he can be charged with statytory even if she was in aplace that doctatedher being 21. The answer is yes. (I don’t agree but its true) ”
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No he cannot. Statutory Rape has a statue of limitations. There is usually no way to prove or disprove whether or not sex occured YEARS after the fact. That’s why there is a statute of limitations.
If you recall, some man killed a priest that molested him (allegedly) after he discovered the statute of limitation had passed.
ESTABLISH A RELATIONSHIP NOT A BANK ACCOUNT
BOO HOO CRY ME A RIVER
Man, I just don’t care™ says:
@MIRS MOMMY
“Oh, he’s suing Gloria???
If that’s the case, he shoulda tried to sue her azz/get a DNA test a long time ago.”
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YOU NEED A VALID ADDRESS TO PROPERLY SERVE SOMEONE TO SUE! That’s the law, how can you “defend” yourself if you don’t know about the lawsuit????
She purposely never gave him an address so she couldn’t be served!
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He coulda found her azz if he really wanted to.
Sh!t, if Shaniqua could find Pookie creepin in the ‘Jects across town wit Kee-lo-lo, then he coulda found Gloria.
shannon04 says:
Even if Gloria did move constantly that’s his fault for sleeping with someone that he didn’t even know. Men and women can be trifling and that’s what happened. She’s no different than millions of other women that get pregnant and then decide “I don’t need to include him in my childs life at all, i’m out”. Sad, but that’s always a possibility cause women are free to choose what they want to do and the men almost have no say so at all- except through the legal system. @corporate..I agree people have to do better.
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You are correct! What if the shoe was on the other foot…and when she was a teen mother wanted to sue the college boy that got her pregnant…she would have been CRUCIFIED AS A GOLDDIGGER by men and especially women. She would have been called a HOOCHIE and told to get a job and don’t bother College Boy…he has a lucrative career ahead of him.
Well, he now has a professional career and now he harassing the woman he allegedly impregnated as a teen. There is no honor in that.
@MS. EVERYTHING
“BUT if she kept this man from his child, sold a sob story about doing it alone when the daddy wouldn’t stand up, robbed her child of knowing his father and family than she deserves whatever comes to her, there is no excuse for that unless he was beating her- which isn’t the case”
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@MIRS MOMMY
“He coulda found her azz if he really wanted to.
Sh!t, if Shaniqua could find Pookie creepin in the ‘Jects across town wit Kee-lo-lo, then he coulda found Gloria.”
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True.
OR, SHE could have just gave him the address.
Since she didn’t he has the right to sue.
Man, I just don’t care™ says:
@OH PRETTY 1
“If he turns out to be the father, Lebron should sue for back child support. Adding all fees his mother paid for basketball, down to the socks. #satdown”
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¿¿¿¿¿¿Why do people keep saying this about child support??????
She knew EVERYTHING about dude to file a child support order against him AND CHOSE NOT TO!!! That was HER DECISION.
This dude was a lawyer, the nigga couldn’t HIDE from a child support order. SHE (GLORIA) CHOSE NOT TO FILE A CHILD SUPPORT ORDER ON HIM, THERE IS NO “BACK CHILD SUPPORT” TO SUE FOR.
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I made that comment before I skimmed the court docs someone mentioned above, but it was simply out of sarcasm. I don’t see a problem with him wanting the DNA test. If or not, he and Lebron begin a relationship is up to them but that man does deserve to know AT LEAST, if that’s his son. It’s the 4M that gets the #satdown remark. Calm down with all of the caps bruh it’s a beautiful day.
@man, I was saying he could be charged with it generally, “She was in a bar that was 21+” is not a defense…..
Obviously, he cant be charged withit now….As far as the statute of limitations goes though, I’ll bet he started this whole thing after it expired becasue you can’t profit from a crime you were found guilty of committing or orchestrating.
Mirs that’s not true… I’m not divorced yet because I couldn’t find my ex nor can the state of CA or the state he lives in. You need an address to serve divorce papers and he will not provide, calls from different #’s that can’t be traced to him and all kinds of shyt. If someone doesn’t want to be found you won’t find them. Plus she had his info, he had her name and state… how many Gloria James do you think there are in Ohio?
@Ms. Everything
I agree.
So this explains why Lebron looks old, his daddy was almost 30 and his mama was teen.
Man now you notice me??? I spoke to you earlier
Man, I just don’t care™ says:
@MIRS MOMMY
“He coulda found her azz if he really wanted to.
Sh!t, if Shaniqua could find Pookie creepin in the ‘Jects across town wit Kee-lo-lo, then he coulda found Gloria.”
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True.
OR, SHE could have just gave him the address.
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That’s very true as well. She is dead wrong if she knows for a fact, that he is LeBron’s father.
“But why would she let the pimpin’ ex con help out if this upstanding gentlemen wanted to do the right thing?”
@ Princess – Hood mentality. And/or she was cheating on this man at the time so it ‘had’ to be his kid…
@ Intense – Pretty gravi
HOW ABOUT THAT’S WHAT HE GETS FOR HAVING A ONE NITE STAND WITH A MINOR THAT HE KNEW VERY LITTLE AB0UT
This whole “RIGHT TO SUE” just reeks of LACK OF Common Decency, Morals-n-Ethics, Rational-n-Logical thinking and Common Sense IMO
In A NUTSHELL I Totally Agree with @Intense (Comment #75)
ESTABLISH A RELATIONSHIP NOT A BANK ACCOUNT
BOO HOO CRY ME A RIVER
Of course, it’s every woman’s or man’s choice of what they do with their puzzy or dyck. But recklessness affects our whole community especially the African American community. So if you protect and respect yourself great. But for those that don’t…
#dobetter
#unwantedorunlovedbabiesruinlives
@OHPRETTY1
THANKS:)
Ohpretty1 you have a point… I know a couple trife women who’ve cheated on their men got knocked up and didn’t say a word about the possibility smdh
@PRINCESS
“Obviously, he cant be charged withit now….As far as the statute of limitations goes though, I’ll bet he started this whole thing after it expired becasue you can’t profit from a crime you were found guilty of committing or orchestrating.”
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He tried to be in LeBron’s life immediately after he found out. I doubt he was worried about a criminal charge. Besides, I think the law was different at the time anyway.
intensemocha says:
HOW ABOUT THAT’S WHAT HE GETS FOR HAVING A ONE NITE STAND WITH A MINOR THAT HE KNEW VERY LITTLE AB0UT
Congrats on your wedding by the way!
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@CHB-TCH
THANK YOU
Congrats INTENSEMOCHA on your marriage!! You looked beautiful. Blessing, peace, good health and wealth to you and your husband.
Remember: Thy shall not commit adultery.
I’m not trying to be funny at all when I say this but now I realize why some women do the things that they do. I agree with you ms. Everything- if someone doesnt want to be found, they wont be.
I have a friend from college that makes it her business to snoop around with men that she date and this girl will collect social security numbers, work ID numbers from paychecks, drivers license numbers she even had account numbers from bills at the home- and other information that can be used to collectively ID a person. I always tell her that she needs to make better choices when it comes to dating people, and she wouldnt have this need to collect all this information. But as of lately, im hearing all the co-workers say “I don’t blame her”.
@Man says
He tried to be in LeBron’s life immediately after he found out. I doubt he was worried about a criminal charge. Besides, I think the law was different at the time anyway
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If that’s the case…what kind of man was he…that would make a teen mom say I don’t want him to have nothing to do with me or this baby?
Was it beating, cheating or what?
Just like someone stated everyone in Ohio knew Lebron was destined for greatness from 8th grade. For a scholar it works basically the same way. People don’t just wake up and get accepted into Harvard less known becoming a successful lawyer.
People around the smart kid knows he’s the smart kid and that he has chances of making big dollars when he grows up.
Ms. Everything says:
Ohpretty1 you have a point… I know a couple trife women who’ve cheated on their men got knocked up and didn’t say a word about the possibility smdh
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I couldn’t sleep at night…
With that being said, it just seems like you never know how things are going to turn out with people. If you have to track someone down, I guess you need all the information you can get. This issue of Gloria James ducking and dodging this man just reminded me of this and I’m sure if he had more to go on back then, the answer of paternity wouldve already been answered.
mirsmommy says:
If he gave a damn about having a relationship with his son, then he wouldn’t be suing him millions.
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I think he’s doing that out of frustration. He keeps running into brick walls with LeBron and his mama. I doubt he really cares about the money.
@Bird
I hope thats what it is. He’s just suing to get the attention he needs to get that test done right. Maybe he doesn’t care about the money. He just had to do that to ruffle some feathers.
@ATTORNEYMOM
JUST WHEN I THOUGHT YOU HAD A DECENT BONE IN YOUR BODY-YOU HAD TO FUG UP A COMPLIMENT & CONGRATULATIONS-WITH A MENTION OF ADULTERY
LOL ONLY YOU-SMDH
COMPLIMENTS LIKE THAT I DON’T NEED-NO THANK YOU KEEP IT I’M GOOD
This shyt right here! Niggaz don’t have no shame….I can’t STAND dead beats out to get compensated for NOT E-MuddaFukking thang. #BASTARDS
HEY YALL!! :wave:
HE CARES ABOUT THE MONEY-TRUST ME
IF NOT HE WOULD JUST SUE FOR HIS LEGAL EXPENSES-
IT’S ABOUT THE MONEY BOTTOM LINE
LEBRON SHOULD OFFER HIM A ONE HOUR SIT DOWN IN EXCHANGE FOR HIM TO DROP THE LAWSUIT-THAT WAY THEY CAN TALK, HE WOULD HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO MEET AND GET TO KNOW HIS SON FACE TO FACE, AFTER THAT MEETING THEY COULD GO THEIR SEPARATE WAYS-PROBLEM SOLVED RIGHT????
NO AMOUNT OF MONEY WILL MAKE LEBRON HAVE A RELATIONSHIP WITH HIM-BOTTOM LINE
I thought D West was his daddy..
No one is shocked at male golddiggers they have been around forever and a day. If he was so interested in being in his son’s life why did he have to wait until Lebron was a millionaire to do this lawsuit he could have done it 15, 20 years ago? Why is he suing for millions (if true) and not suing just for a new DNA test or to be in Lebron’s life?
what is this the ghetto version of the “Devil’s Advocate” why is this story so familiar???
shannon04 says:
I have a friend from college that makes it her business to snoop around with men that she date and this girl will collect social security numbers, work ID numbers from paychecks, drivers license numbers she even had account numbers from bills at the home- and other information that can be used to collectively ID a person. I always tell her that she needs to make better choices when it comes to dating people, and she wouldnt have this need to collect all this information. But as of lately, im hearing all the co-workers say “I don’t blame her”.
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I don’t blame your friend either. At least if one of her dates gets her pregnant she has a good chance of tracking them down and making them honor their responsibilities.
#dontrawdogit
intensemocha says:
NO AMOUNT OF MONEY WILL MAKE LEBRON HAVE A RELATIONSHIP WITH HIM-BOTTOM LINE
You are definitely right.
*Disclamier* This is just my take on the situation
“1985”
Attorney: Dad, I met this chick in a bar and she might have a son she named Lebron. Get it… my first and middle name. I don’t know if he’s mine but she might be calling you.
Dad: Son, I talked to that girls peoples and she nothing but 15! WTF was you thinking? And to top it off the baby looks old as hell already!
Attorney: Shyt shyt shyt! If I’m the daddy I could be charged with rape!
Dad: I’d lay low if I was you.
“2000”
Dad: Son remember that boy you said might be yourn? Well he’s going to go pro son…to the NBA! You should call his mama and try and get to in touch with him.
Attorney: I can’t Dad. Ohio’s statute of limitations is 20 years.
Dad: Oh damn son that sucks. He’s gonna go straight to the NBA not even gonna go to college. You missing out.
“2005”
Attorney: My name is Leicester Stovell and I’m LaBron James daddy!
@Nika405…
I laughed so hard…I had to pause and re-read it.
i’ve read through the first half of comments or so and i’m smh at yall throwing shade at this man and letting gloria off the hook. a teenage slutbag who probably looked 30 when she was 12 screwed this man and had a baby with SOMEBODY. she ought to be glad somebody trying to claim his *ss but nooooooo.
unless gloria has money, he will not get a dime from lebron (this is a gloria issue) but at least lebron may have a chance to know who his real father is. that should be something he WANTS to do.
@CHB I bet that’s why his azz waited 20 damn years! I don’t doubt he’s been trying for FIVE years to get in tough with LJ and his mama. But he knew about this boy well before this and to serve her all he had to do was have them send it to a someone in her family’s house or serve her @ one of his games. His daddy could have served her!
I served my BD at his mama’s house at his brothers house and at his sisters house.
CorporateHoodB-tch says:
Of course, it’s every woman’s or man’s choice of what they do with their puzzy or dyck. But recklessness affects our whole community especially the African American community. So if you protect and respect yourself great. But for those that don’t…
#dobetter
#unwantedorunlovedbabiesruinlives
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Tell the truth!!!
@Nika…folks can’t even hide a car from the repo man now days…and we are supposed to believe because Gloria moved around he couldn’t serve her. The finance company called and offered me money to tell them where my friend parks their car. Just think how many “frenemies” would rat somebody out for a piece of change. Come on bro…
To attend Harvard he should have been smart enough find her
Some people buy their way in…if that’s the case they could have hired a private detective to find a teen mom.
@Nika405 (Comment #115)
OKAY !!!!! And I’m truly amazed at how many are giving this DUDE built-in excuses for someone who is SUPPOSEDLY A Ivy League Graduate and Practicing Lawyer AT ONE TIME
@CHB and @Nika405
It was COMMON KNOWLEDGE in Akron, Ohio that LeBron was staying with His Grandma & Aunts and EVERYBODY knew who his Uncles were (Real…)
OR MAYBE HE COULD HAVE STARTED WITH THE NUMBER SHE CALLED HIM FROM-AS STATED ABOVE”””””””””””””””””””SHE CONTACTED HIM TO INFORM HIM SHE WAS PREGNANT-DUH
HOW DO YOU THINK THAT CONVERSATION WENT????????? OBVIOUSLY HE GOT OUT OF DODGE-AND PROBABLY CUSSED HER OUT SOMETHING UGLY
THAT WAS HER ATTEMPT TO CONTACT THE FATHER AT THAT TIME-HE OBVIOUSLY JUST NOW DECIDED HE WANTS TO BE BOTHERED
Im glad his mom named him LeBron and not Leceister..WTF is a Leceister??
@ELove…I bet it was. I bet everybody could point his mom out at the games and knew exactly what street they lived on at all times.
Heck, everybody knew my family just because my brother was a good neighborhood tournament ball player. They could fill out the Census Bureau for us…”how many live in the household”, “what are their incomes”, ha, ha, ha!!!!
Well I will say this judging by the photo next to Lebron’s, HE IZ the FATHER.
No doubt about it…mouth hang low the same with that chesire cat grin and all…so soRRrrry
Where is Maury when you need him, cuz I am 1000% sure.
Legally it was statutory rape, but shoot he met a cute young thang at the club that allowed a tall good looking stranger to raw dog her. He didn’t know she was a fast ass child.
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and there you have it.
Shannon… exactly
how ignorant is this story. i’m suing you for millions of dollars because you didn’t allow me to be your father. well happy damn fathers day to you too, Dad.
IF GLORIA WAS SUCH A HOOD RAT HE WOULD HAVE BEEN ON CHILD SUPPORT SINCE DAY ONE. WHY WOULD SHE SEEK HIM OUT TO LET HIM KNOW SHE IS PREGNANT THEN TURN AROUND AND DENY HIM OF HIS CHILD. IF HE WAS CONCERNED AFTER SHE TOLD HIM SHE WAS PREGNANT, HE WOULD HAVE WENT BACK TO THE SCENE OF THE CRIME AND TRIED TO FIND HER AND HIS CHILD. IF HE WANTED TO BE INVOLVED HE WOULD HAVE BEEN.
(DON’T JUDGE ME)IN 1995 I HAD A ONE MINUTE STAND(HE ONLY LASTED THAT LONG) I WAS IN A RELATIONSHIP AT THE TIME, SO THERE WAS A 50% CHANCE DUDE WAS THE DAD,I TOLD HIM I WAS PREGNANT AND THERE WAS A CHANCE HE COULD BE THE FATHER. NO I DIDN’T TELL THE GUY I WAS IN THE RELATIONSHIP ABOUT MY ACCIDENT. WELL FAST FORWARD TO 2005, I RAN IN TO DUDE, HE AND MY SON LOOKS LIKE TWINS. HE THEN SAID HE WOULD STEP UP AND TAKE RESPONSIBILITY…HE’S BEEN RUNNING FROM CHILD SUPPORT SINCE….THEY HAVE HAD SEVERAL ADDRESSES AND TRIED TO SERVE HIM, WELL THEY JUST SERVED HIM IN TEXAS, I AM IN FLORIDA. THEY ARE VERY THOROUGH IN THEIR SEARCHES, THEY GO THROUGH SOCIAL SECURITY NUMBERS AND POSTAL ADDRESSES.
T.Y’z Cha Cha says:
Im glad his mom named him LeBron and not Leceister..WTF is a Leceister??
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Chester the Molester. How do you pronouce his name?
@CHB
“I don’t blame your friend either. At least if one of her dates gets her pregnant she has a good chance of tracking them down and making them honor their responsibilities.
#dontrawdogit”
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SMH. And THAT’S why the government is a collection agency for #hoeshyt.
If a hoe lets a nigga beat it up raw dog, SHE don’t take the umpteen birth control methods available, she has MONTHS to decide to abort AND she could put the baby up for adoption, YET HE didn’t live up to his “responsibilities?”
@Mucho you betta tell it! BD ran from child support but TX stayed on his azz! Everytime he would get a new job, I would get a check the next month and when he would get fired/quit I would get most of his last check. If CSE has a SS# it’s over for them if they work legally.
Man, I just don’t care™ says:
@SHANNON 04
“Regardless of where he met her, he made it clear that he did not want to be bothered when she came back around saying she was pregnant.”
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Huh???
Where are you getting that from? Did you NOT read the statements or ANY other articles regarding this? He has tried for YEARS to get paternity tests and to be involved with LeBron’s life BEFORE he was “King James.”
Glory Hole thwarted him at every attempt, and moved constantly. She had all of his contact information for years.
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But why sue for money…and who is he suing…GLORIA?…in the end isn’t it still Lebron’s money? Does Gloria work? At this point with Lebron being an adult does it matter if he is or if he isn’t his dad.
I just don’t get the money part…does this fall under alienation of affection? I seriously don’t understand it
is he a correspondence school lawyer carrying the paper only, but not actually practicing law as fulfilling career? where they do that at?
NIKA405, I FEEL LIKE THIS, IF HE WAS INTERESTED IN BEING A FATHER, GLORIA TOOK THE FIRST STEP, SHE INFORMED HIM, HE KNEW IF ANYTHING THERE WAS A POSSIBILITY. SHE SHOULDN’T HAVE TO HUNT HIM DOWN AFTER THAT. IF TRULY CONCERNED HE WOULD HAVE DONE WHAT EVER TO FIND GLORIA AND THE CHILD. THAT IS THE SAME THING I SAY ABOUT MINUTE MAN, IF HE WANTED TO BE A FATHER, HE WOULD HAVE CONTACTED ME TO AT LEAST SEE MY SON. I THINK THIS MAN JUST WANTS MONEY FROM LEBRON!
@GGOUCH
“But why sue for money…and who is he suing…GLORIA?…in the end isn’t it still Lebron’s money? Does Gloria work? At this point with Lebron being an adult does it matter if he is or if he isn’t his dad.
I just don’t get the money part…does this fall under alienation of affection? I seriously don’t understand it”
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Well, the FACTS are that the man made himself available to Glory Hole immediately after the child was born and ATTEMPTED to be in the child’s life.
SHE DENIED IT TO HIM. What would you have a PARENT do? Just say “Oh Well.” This isn’t new, this man has been trying for years to at least get to know what MAY be his child. When did we become cynical of a PARENT GETTING TO KNOW THEIR CHILD?????
I guess he should just accept he was robbed of the oppurtunity to know HIS SON and not do anything.
@MUNCHOSGIRL
“NIKA405, I FEEL LIKE THIS, IF HE WAS INTERESTED IN BEING A FATHER, GLORIA TOOK THE FIRST STEP, SHE INFORMED HIM, HE KNEW IF ANYTHING THERE WAS A POSSIBILITY. SHE SHOULDN’T HAVE TO HUNT HIM DOWN AFTER THAT. IF TRULY CONCERNED HE WOULD HAVE DONE WHAT EVER TO FIND GLORIA AND THE CHILD.”
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So lemme understand this. This man has tried for years for paternity tests and court orders and chit and couldn’t locate a woman that may have HIS child and it’s HIS fault he couldn’t locate her?????
???
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So if someone STOLE one of your babies, YOU should be able to locate them? GTFOH.
She doesn’t even DENY not giving him contact information. LOL. HE was never in hiding, attorney’s register in whatever state they are in with an address and phone number.
@ man I get a man attempting to be apart of his childs life. I get that. ……but why sue for money? Why the Money? At this time can the courts FORCE Lebron to have visits with this man. at this point isn’t the relationship up to lebron, the man?
Someone please explain the MONEY
Man…lets’ think about this…do you really think a 29 year old successful attorney, who had a one night stand with a 15 year old girl started from the jump in tryin to take responsibitlity? Seems to me…and perhaps I am wrong….the state would have picked up statuarory rape charges…
am I wrong? Do you really think he got that call that said: Hey I’m 15 btw and guess what you knocked me up. and HE immediatley said I take responsibility and there were not other consequences involved?
@GGOUCH
“I get a man attempting to be apart of his childs life. I get that. ……but why sue for money? Why the Money? At this time can the courts FORCE Lebron to have visits with this man. at this point isn’t the relationship up to lebron, the man?
Someone please explain the MONEY”
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The money doesn’t even make a difference. You can’t prosecute her criminally, you can’t force “visitation” on a grown man, she won’t even agree to a court ordered paternity test… what else can you do?
You know good and well Glory Hole has been selling that “I-had-to-do-it-on-own-cause-your-father-is-a-deadbeat” chit to LeBron for years. He ain’t bout to have no “relationship” with that nigga. I bet if he just agreed to the paternity test (which he doesn’t have to as an adult) he would be fine with that.
How do you put a price on a parenthood you were robbed from????
Where are people getting he tried for years to get in touch with her? I read the actual court documents and his alleged father has a video and he clearly states that he NEVER tried to get in touch with them until 2007 because he believed her when she told him that LeBron was not his. I wish Sandra allowed us to post links because I would post the link of the copy of the original court documents, where he states that.
@GGOUCH
“Man…lets’ think about this…do you really think a 29 year old successful attorney, who had a one night stand with a 15 year old girl started from the jump in tryin to take responsibitlity? Seems to me…and perhaps I am wrong….the state would have picked up statuarory rape charges…
am I wrong? Do you really think he got that call that said: Hey I’m 15 btw and guess what you knocked me up. and HE immediatley said I take responsibility and there were not other consequences involved?”
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Point taken, and I acknowledge there is more to the story than is what is being told.
Now, do YOU honestly believe that a 15 yr old girl, was in a adult bar, had a “one night stand,” yet knew who the father was, that he was educated and well-off, yet she pressed no criminal charges and filed no child support order?????????????? REALLY????????
That means:
A. she had another nigga thinking it was his and was footin the bill
B. she had something to hide, might have been a child prostitute
C. is scared Lebron will see all the lies she been telling
Let’s add in that she was fuggin this dude teammate. SMH.
@DAISY
“Where are people getting he tried for years to get in touch with her? I read the actual court documents and his alleged father has a video and he clearly states that he NEVER tried to get in touch with them until 2007 because he believed her when she told him that LeBron was not his. I wish Sandra allowed us to post links because I would post the link of the copy of the original court documents, where he states that.”
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Well, I didn’t see the actual Court Documents. I read from another site that he had tried even before he Lebron was in Middle School. Admittedly, you can’t believe everything you read on the internet.
That being said, why not just agree to the court administered test?
@Man….this dudes name is LeBron James. Not Thomas Smith. So if I’m a Lawyer and I knew a woman had named a son I might have fathered something so “different” as soon as my fam back in Ohio told me about him I would have asked them to get an address for her mama/sister/hairsytlist and I would have served her azz with paternity papers. So what she moved a lot? You don’t have to physically serve her (at least not in OK) someone’s hosue that was related to her would work. And if she still ran I would have shown up at a football/basketball game and served her there.
He has no excuse once LJ hit 8th grade. He could find her and him in the same place every Friday night for 5yrs. And let’s just say he couldn’t find an address….I bet he could have went to the local news station and they would have helped.
If someone took my child I would be on the news doing an “Antione Dobson” for your azz ASAP!
SOME NICCAS ARE GOING TO ALWAYS STAN FOR NICCAS-POINT BLANK
IT’S THE PIMPS UP HOES DOWN MENTALITY
PAINTING THIS NEGROE AS A SAINT AND THE MAMA AS A HOE
LAST I CHECK THEY BOTH ARE GUILTY OF HAVING UNPROTECTED SEX AND CREATING A CHILD-BUT I DIGRESS
YOU ARE BEATING A DEAD HORSE-HOW IS MONEY GOING TO REPLACE THE TIME HE LOST GETTING TO KNOW HIS SON OR ESTABLISH A RELATIONSHIP????
NOBODY IS SAYING WHAT HAPPENED WAS JUSTIFIED OR EVEN RIGHT-WHAT EVERYONE IS POINTING OUT THAT HIS INTENTIONS WOULD SEEM MORE SINCERE IF HE WAS SEEKING TO MAKE A FINANCIAL GAIN BY ESTABLISHING PATERNITY
I MEANT-WASN’T SEEKING FINANCIAL GAINS BY ESTABLISHING PATERNITY
what else can you do?
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RECOGNIZE YOU CAN’T FUG A 15 YEAR OLD BUST A NUT-CAUSE IT WAS AN EASY LAY AND WALK AWAY AND THEN ONLY DEEM THE CHILD YOU CREATED WORTHWILE OF ACKNOWLEDGING AFTER YOU REALIZE YEARS LATER THE CHILD IS A CASH COW
JUST BECAUSE YOU SUE FOR MILLIONS DOESN’T NECESSARILY MEAN THE JUDGE WILL AGREE YOUR PAIN AND SUFFERING IS WORTH MILLIONS
WHAT HE CAN DO IS KICK ROCKS……CHUMP-HE WANTED FREE PUZZY WITH NO STRINGS ATTACHED HE GOT IT -SO KEEP IT MOVING
@NIKA
“….this dudes name is LeBron James. Not Thomas Smith. So if I’m a Lawyer and I knew a woman had named a son I might have fathered something so “different” as soon as my fam back in Ohio told me about him I would have asked them to get an address for her mama/sister/hairsytlist and I would have served her azz with paternity papers. So what she moved a lot? You don’t have to physically serve her (at least not in OK) someone’s hosue that was related to her would work. And if she still ran I would have shown up at a football/basketball game and served her there.
He has no excuse once LJ hit 8th grade. He could find her and him in the same place every Friday night for 5yrs. And let’s just say he couldn’t find an address….I bet he could have went to the local news station and they would have helped.
If someone took my child I would be on the news doing an “Antione Dobson” for your azz ASAP!”
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Hey, that’s fine and dandy. But look at AQTPIE’S post #139. She states that HE believed her when she said he wasn’t the father and didn’t attempt to determine paternity until 2007.
Either way, SHE as a mother, is OBLIGATED to determine who her child father’s is and attempt to intergrate them in his life. Point blank, period. Something, evidently, SHE failed to do.
Maybe he should have sought out DNA sooner (althought it wouldn’t have been available when LeBron was born). But at this point, neither can undo the past. But if she KNEW he COULD have been the father and didn’t allow him in LeBron’s life, that’s HER fault.
@INTENSE MOCHA
“what else can you do?
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RECOGNIZE YOU CAN’T FUG A 15 YEAR OLD BUST A NUT-CAUSE IT WAS AN EASY LAY AND WALK AWAY AND THEN ONLY DEEM THE CHILD YOU CREATED WORTHWILE OF ACKNOWLEDGING AFTER YOU REALIZE YEARS LATER THE CHILD IS A CASH COW
JUST BECAUSE YOU SUE FOR MILLIONS DOESN’T NECESSARILY MEAN THE JUDGE WILL AGREE YOUR PAIN AND SUFFERING IS WORTH MILLIONS
WHAT HE CAN DO IS KICK ROCKS……CHUMP-HE WANTED FREE PUZZY WITH NO STRINGS ATTACHED HE GOT IT -SO KEEP IT MOVING”
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I agree to an extent. I believe that everyone should sign written statements verifying their age along with photographic evidence, not excluding video taping, to certify no underage sex occured. As it stands, you are guilty until proven innocent because simply stating “he/she looked older” is not a defense.
That being said, SHE didn’t ALLOW him to be in the child’s life. That’s HER charge.
AND WHAT????????????? HE DESERVES TO GET PAID BECAUSE OF IT
THE ONLY THING THIS MAN DESERVES IS A RELATIONSHIP WITH HIS SON IF IN FACE HE IS THE FATHER
BUT LIKE NUMEROUS POSTERS HAVE STATED ON SR-IF A MAN HAS A RIGHT TO WALK AWAY AND NOT BE A FATHER-THAT SWORD CUTS BOTH WAYS
LEBRON HAS THE RIGHT TO NOT ESTABLISH A RELATIONSHIP WITH HIM-SIMPLY BECAUSE HE DOESN’T WANT TO
LEBRON IS AWARE OF THE LAWSUIT-IF HE WANTED TO REACH OUT HE COULD
SOMETHING TELLS ME THIS MAN HAS MADE IT CLEAR FROM JUMP HE’S SEEKING TO GET PAID-AND THEY WANT NO PARTS OF HIM
MAYBE IF HE WASN’T SEEING $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$-HE WOULD HAVE A BETTER CHANCE OF ESTABLISHING THE SO CALLED FATHER/SON RELATIONSHIP HE CLAIMS HE’S SEEKING
YEAH RIGHT NICCA
@INTENSE MOCHA
“AND WHAT????????????? HE DESERVES TO GET PAID BECAUSE OF IT
THE ONLY THING THIS MAN DESERVES IS A RELATIONSHIP WITH HIS SON IF IN FACE HE IS THE FATHER
BUT LIKE NUMEROUS POSTERS HAVE STATED ON SR-IF A MAN HAS A RIGHT TO WALK AWAY AND NOT BE A FATHER-THAT SWORD CUTS BOTH WAYS
LEBRON HAS THE RIGHT TO NOT ESTABLISH A RELATIONSHIP WITH HIM-SIMPLY BECAUSE HE DOESN’T WANT TO
LEBRON IS AWARE OF THE LAWSUIT-IF HE WANTED TO REACH OUT HE COULD
SOMETHING TELLS ME THIS MAN HAS MADE IT CLEAR FROM JUMP HE’S SEEKING TO GET PAID-AND THEY WANT NO PARTS OF HIM
MAYBE IF HE WASN’T SEEING $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$-HE WOULD HAVE A BETTER CHANCE OF ESTABLISHING THE SO CALLED FATHER/SON RELATIONSHIP HE CLAIMS HE’S SEEKING
YEAH RIGHT NICCA”
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So SHE deserves to have NOTHING happen to her for lying for YEARS to this man about POSSIBLY being this dude’s father???? Just “phuck it, she good cause she had her lies straight years my nigga.” GTFOH.
She lied to this mayne for years and now it’s time to face the consequences. She had it good all this time, why not be ready to pay for it?
And what “right” does a man have to walk away from a child???? What’s the name of that right? If a woman gets pregnant a man is OBLIGATED to HER decision and HER decision alone to pay for a child he had NO intentions of creating. If the WOMAN makes the decision to keep a child, the WOMAN should be financially obligated to raise the child.
That’s too much like right tho.
LEBRON’S A GROWN MAN AT THIS POINT-HE NEEDS TO REACH OUT TO HIM
SUING HIS MOTHER ISN’T GOING TO PERSUADE HIM TO ESTABLISH A RELATIONSHIP
NO MATTER HOW BAD A PICTURE YOU PAINT OF HER-SHE “HAS” A RELATIONSHIP WITH HER “SON” MR. MAN DOESN’T
I HIGHLY DOUBT A JUDGE AN & WILL FORCE A GROWN AZZ MAN TO SUBMIT TO A DNA TEST FOR THIS MAN’S FINANCIAL GAIN
So SHE deserves to have NOTHING happen to her for lying for YEARS to this man about POSSIBLY being this dude’s father???? Just “phuck it, she good cause she had her lies straight years my nigga.” GTFOH.
She lied to this mayne for years and now it’s time to face the consequences. She had it good all this time, why not be ready to pay for it?
And what “right” does a man have to walk away from a child???? What’s the name of that right? If a woman gets pregnant a man is OBLIGATED to HER decision and HER decision alone to pay for a child he had NO intentions of creating. If the WOMAN makes the decision to keep a child, the WOMAN should be financially obligated to raise the child.
That’s too much like right tho.
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If a woman gets pregnant a man is OBLIGATED to HER decision and HER decision alone to pay for a child he had NO intentions of creating.
YOU ARE CONTRADICTING YOURSELF-A MAN DOESN’T HAVE THE RIGHT TO WALK AWAY BUT THEN YOU TURN AROUND AND MAKE THE ABOVE STATEMENT-LOL OKAY
AND IF SHE LIED-HER PUNISHMENT FOR THAT IS TO LIVE WITH IT PLAIN AND SIMPLE IF THAT IS IN FACT THE TRUTH CAUSE RIGHT NOW NOBODY KNOWS FOR A FACT HE’S THE DADDY
WHAT IN THE HELL IS SHE GOING TO PAY HIM WITH-WHAT REVENUE/INCOME HAS SHE GENERATED?!?!?!
NO WHAT YOU MEAN IS SUE LEBRON RIGHT???? I WOULD LOVE TO SEE HER REPORTED INCOME-WHICH IS PROBLEM SLIM TO NONE SINCE HER SON PROBABLY SUPPORTS HER
SO SUE HER BASED ON WHAT INCOME SHE HAS NOT HER SON’S INCOME
BUT THAT WOULD BE TOO MUCH LIKE RIGHT THOUGH HUH-LOL
It takes two people to be parents. She saw him again after they had a 1 night stand goes to his apartment, tells him she’s pregnant, (but it isn’t his) and then asks how he spells his name…..But he shouldn’t be worried and take her at his word? Okay. Then….. this is the kicker: If he is mine make sure he plays “basketball”. WTF. Then this nigga says “LeBron James a basketball player from Ohio”. Really @Man! I’m all for BOTH parents doing whatever it takes to make sure they are a part of their childs life, but you are defending this fruit cake and haven’t even read his court papers.
BOOM: 20yrs later a MAN/CHILD shows up on the TV screen named LaBron James playing basketball and looking just like him. GTFOH what are the odds?
P.S Dude was a highschool basketball star in Akron,OH so it’s not a stretch him/his family saw LJ looking like him playing ball way back when the stature of limitions was still in affect.
@INTENSE MOCHA
“LEBRON’S A GROWN MAN AT THIS POINT-HE NEEDS TO REACH OUT TO HIM
SUING HIS MOTHER ISN’T GOING TO PERSUADE HIM TO ESTABLISH A RELATIONSHIP
NO MATTER HOW BAD A PICTURE YOU PAINT OF HER-SHE “HAS” A RELATIONSHIP WITH HER “SON” MR. MAN DOESN’T
I HIGHLY DOUBT A JUDGE AN & WILL FORCE A GROWN AZZ MAN TO SUBMIT TO A DNA TEST FOR THIS MAN’S FINANCIAL GAIN”
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Yes, he needs to reach out to Lebron, but he can’t just allow Gloria to walk away unscathed. She did wrong and that’s the truth. Shame on her and she deserves whatever the consequences may be.
And I’m not painting any sort of picture of anyone. Speaking the actual facts and people form what ever picture they like from those facts.
Of course SHE has a relationship with LeBron and HE doesn’t… BECAUSE SHE LIED TO HAVE IT THAT WAY. How you goin blame that man when wasn’t even given an oppurtunity to have a relationship? LOL.
Nope, a judge can’t/won’t force a DNA test on a grown man. Why would Lebron be against it though?
@NIKA
“It takes two people to be parents. She saw him again after they had a 1 night stand goes to his apartment, tells him she’s pregnant, (but it isn’t his) and then asks how he spells his name…..But he shouldn’t be worried and take her at his word? Okay. Then….. this is the kicker: If he is mine make sure he plays “basketball”. WTF. Then this nigga says “LeBron James a basketball player from Ohio”. Really @Man! I’m all for BOTH parents doing whatever it takes to make sure they are a part of their childs life, but you are defending this fruit cake and haven’t even read his court papers.
BOOM: 20yrs later a MAN/CHILD shows up on the TV screen named LaBron James playing basketball and looking just like him. GTFOH what are the odds?
P.S Dude was a highschool basketball star in Akron,OH so it’s not a stretch him/his family saw LJ looking like him playing ball way back when the stature of limitions was still in affect.”
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I hear all that. Really I do, it’s not lost on me. BUT, SHE could have settled ALL THIS WAY BACK IN THE GAP. All this talk about the rape, if SHE felt she was raped, why didn’t SHE go to the police years after the fact?????
If SHE said the child wasn’t his, why does she have a problem with having a court ordered and administered test?????? If it is soooo about the money, why didn’t all this hit in or around 2003? When LeBron came to the league? He signed a $90 million dollar contract with Nike BEFORE HE PLAYED HIS FIRST NBA GAME! It ain’t bout the money.
@Man if it’s not about the money then he should have went to the media and asked Lebron James to talk with him one on one. What good does suing Gloria do now? If it’s a relationship he wanted with Lebron and it didn’t happen he should just move on from it. Remember you making the remark about people moving on…….that fits perfectly here. LeBron is grown now…..he had PLENTY of clues something wasn’t right and he still lived his life and admitted in the court docs it seemed strange (he even referred to himself as LeBron from 1990-2002) but he forgot all about the 15yr girl he had flucked and she told him she was pregnant and was gonna name the baby LeBron.
@INTENSE MOCHA
“YOU ARE CONTRADICTING YOURSELF-A MAN DOESN’T HAVE THE RIGHT TO WALK AWAY BUT THEN YOU TURN AROUND AND MAKE THE ABOVE STATEMENT-LOL OKAY
AND IF SHE LIED-HER PUNISHMENT FOR THAT IS TO LIVE WITH IT PLAIN AND SIMPLE IF THAT IS IN FACT THE TRUTH CAUSE RIGHT NOW NOBODY KNOWS FOR A FACT HE’S THE DADDY
WHAT IN THE HELL IS SHE GOING TO PAY HIM WITH-WHAT REVENUE/INCOME HAS SHE GENERATED?!?!?!
NO WHAT YOU MEAN IS SUE LEBRON RIGHT???? I WOULD LOVE TO SEE HER REPORTED INCOME-WHICH IS PROBLEM SLIM TO NONE SINCE HER SON PROBABLY SUPPORTS HER
SO SUE HER BASED ON WHAT INCOME SHE HAS NOT HER SON’S INCOME
BUT THAT WOULD BE TOO MUCH LIKE RIGHT THOUGH HUH-LOL”
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LOL. No contradiction. Men don’t have a “right” to walk out on children they sired. Period. If a WOMAN decides to go through with a pregnancy, a man is LIABLE for THE WOMAN’S DECISION.
LOOOOOOOOOL So “live with it” is her “punishment” GTFOH!
That’s some new “inventive” type chit right there.
HE IS DOING “RIGHT” BECAUSE HE IS SUING HER! No mention of “suing Lebron.” Her income and revenue ain’t got nothing to do with how much he sues her for. AND it ain’t that mans problem WHERE she gets the money to pay him. That’s Gloria’s problem.
And he’s not asking Lebron for one red cent.
@NIKA
“if it’s not about the money then he should have went to the media and asked Lebron James to talk with him one on one. What good does suing Gloria do now? If it’s a relationship he wanted with Lebron and it didn’t happen he should just move on from it. Remember you making the remark about people moving on…….that fits perfectly here. LeBron is grown now…..he had PLENTY of clues something wasn’t right and he still lived his life and admitted in the court docs it seemed strange (he even referred to himself as LeBron from 1990-2002) but he forgot all about the 15yr girl he had flucked and she told him she was pregnant and was gonna name the baby LeBron.”
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You’re right, people SHOULD move on when there is no way of closure or rectifying the problem. This isn’t one of those situations. This woman possibly denied him the right to be a father, and he has the oppurtunity to seek some sort of closure. He should try for it. If it fails or he is proven not to be the father, he should move on.
Hey, they both could have done things differently while LeBron was a child and I don’t think he is in the habit of fuggin teenagers. BUT, Gloria is the ONE person of making this right for both LeBron and his dad and she CHOSE not to. This is the result. That was HER decision.
One other thing…..he’s suing both of them. Gloria and Lebron :clapping: way to go Dad!
he doesn’t even look like lebron to me but the bottom line is, lebron is grown now and doesn’t have to submit to a test. the man appears to be trying to sue to get the testing done.
dirt was done on BOTH sides and both of those parties have a chance to make it right at this particular time. so why is one party (the one who should most want to know) fighting the other? money aside (that’s for the courts to decide), there just seems to be some merit to what the man is saying.
@Man… SAID: I don’t think he is in the habit of fuggin teenagers.
NOW we will NEVER KNOW the answer to that ASSumption !!!
@FREE
“dirt was done on BOTH sides and both of those parties have a chance to make it right at this particular time. so why is one party (the one who should most want to know) fighting the other? money aside (that’s for the courts to decide), there just seems to be some merit to what the man is saying.”
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That’s what I’m yelling over and over…
@E LOVE
“SAID: I don’t think he is in the habit of fuggin teenagers. ”
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NOW we will NEVER KNOW the answer to that ASSumption !!!
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True enough, which is why I said I don’t THINK. Of course, never being charged aided in that thought…
If he failed to seek a relationship WAY before all this, he should KIM now.
These are the facts:
1. He knew she was 15 and he had taken her virginty.
2. He knew she lived in OH
3. He knew she planned to name the son LeBron
4. She knew he was from OH
5. She knew he daddy had the same flucked up azz name
6. He knew she was pregnant.
7. He was a Lawyer, who by their very profession are researchers.
8. A old azz looking child shows up on TV playing basketball & named Labron.
Now taking all the facts into consideration Gloria should have told him it might be his baby and the first time Sr. told him a boy was one TV looking just like him he should have went found out the truth.
He also attended a Cavs game in 2007 sat behind LeBron and Boobie Gipson supposely said “that dude could be your daddy”.
@Man & @Free
ONLY ONE PERSON was An ADULT OF LEGAL AGE when she got pregnant…
@NIKA
“If he failed to seek a relationship WAY before all this, he should KIM now.”
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So he should seek a relationship with a child SPECIFICALLY TOLD ISN’T HIS?????????????????
Gloria SPECIFICALLY told him he wasn’t the father. Why would he pursue a relationship after that?????
And he notices a resemblance years later (whether you believe it or not) so he wants to make sure (sounds logical) and SHE FIGHTS IT (HUH?)??????????? WHY?????
@E LOVE
“ONLY ONE PERSON was An ADULT OF LEGAL AGE when she got pregnant…”
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Thank you for that redundant and irrelevant information.
@ IntenceMocha, congrats on your marriage and your picture is beautiful.
On Topic: I still don’t get the money. It’s like saying..”Lebron has to pay him to CONTINUE to NOT be his dad”….if it’s about the relationship then why this route?
Where is the money to come from …..What does Gloria do? If she had a career would she have time to travel around with her kids team like he still plays for the rec center. Does the nba need team-moms? This money will no doubt come from Lebron…and this man knows that…so his motives are clear…
I just want to know what law is he siting that the courts even accepted it into record… WHAT is the LEGALALITY of this case.
If the money doesn’t matter and this is really about a relationship that never happened, then the words ‘financial & commercial opportunities’ should not appear anywhere in any statement from him.
I’m sorry I just don’t believe that this was the only way to go about this. And further more what outcome can the daddy expect from this lawsuit? He can’t expect any kind of healthy relationship with LeBron any time soon. Which also leads me to believe his true intentions is to come up in this world. And that is so wrong.
@GGOUCH
“On Topic: I still don’t get the money. It’s like saying..”Lebron has to pay him to CONTINUE to NOT be his dad”….if it’s about the relationship then why this route?
Where is the money to come from …..What does Gloria do? If she had a career would she have time to travel around with her kids team like he still plays for the rec center. Does the nba need team-moms? This money will no doubt come from Lebron…and this man knows that…so his motives are clear…
I just want to know what law is he siting that the courts even accepted it into record… WHAT is the LEGALALITY of this case.
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LOL. Even if this man wins, he won’t get any “money” from Glory Hole.
It will just be a judgement against her. All she would have to do is not have anything in “her” name (which she prolly does so Savannah can’t get it from LeBron) and that’s a wrap.
His options were few after being denied a relationship with his possible son for dayum near three decades.
Why does everyone want Gloria to go skippin off into the sunset scott free after harming both her own child and this man?????
@Man…
IRRELEVANT is you talking like SHE is the sole bearer of BLAME & ALL WRONGS regarding this RIDICULOUS LAWSUIT & THIS FOOL-AZZ NEGRO behavior NOW and BACK when he was SKEETING RAW inside of this TEEN-AGED Female !!!!!
THAT WHAT’S TRULY IRRELEVANT — IMO
@E-LOVE
“IRRELEVANT is you talking like SHE is the sole bearer of BLAME & ALL WRONGS regarding this RIDICULOUS LAWSUIT & THIS FOOL-AZZ NEGRO behavior NOW and BACK when he was SKEETING RAW inside of this TEEN-AGED Female !!!!!
THAT WHAT’S TRULY IRRELEVANT — IMO ”
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Your concerns about teenage pregnancy to a grown man are duly noted. She is NOT responsible for his actions, but she IS responsible for hers.
Fair enough?
So when he went to the Cavs game in 2007 sitting behind Lebron why not tell him then. He could have tapped him on the shoulder and told him the truth, he could have screamed it on the Jumbotron, he could have wrote it on a hot dog wrapper. Gloria wasn’t there. So if he wanted to tell him, there was his chance. He didn’t and now three years later he wants to sue both of them?
So he should seek a relationship with a child SPECIFICALLY TOLD ISN’T HIS?????????????????
Gloria SPECIFICALLY told him he wasn’t the father. Why would he pursue a relationship after that?????
And he notices a resemblance years later (whether you believe it or not) so he wants to make sure (sounds logical) and SHE FIGHTS IT (HUH?)??????????? WHY?????
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Yes man, he should have saw it through because of this exact outcome.
A real father couldn’t bear the possibility that his seed is running around in the world without him. Whether she denied it or not, it was simple math. He could add up the on his own to deduce whether or not he could MAYBE be her childs father.
He should have definitely pursued Gloria and the baby at least to get a confirmed negative. If for the only reason being that he was 29 year old educated mand with all his senses and knew (by the time of the phone call at least) that he was dealing with a small minded child. Someone who did not have the foresight and ability to assess the weight of their actions.
He also left himself open for legal and financial repercussions because what if she turned into the babymomma from hell and dragged his ass through the courts, criminal and child support alike.
Everyone has wrong doing on their hands. It was Leicester’s own mistakes that cost him a relationship with LeBron.
@ MAN…… she was 15!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I don’t care about the hoe lable you are trying to put on her because she slept with a team mate.
A 15 year old’s options are far less than the options of a 29 year old established attorney.
His mind set is different, his resources far more available.
….why didn’t he utilize his lawyerness to get to the bottom of this? Go to the house…talk to her parents…take responsibility that way. You allowed a child to decide your future and was seemingly ok with it. “UNTIL YOU LOOKED AT TV” If the news caption had been lebron james arrested for grand theft..opossed to Lebron James basket bal phenom.
HE KNOWINGLY SLEPT and IMPREGNATED a 15 year old child. I don’t care if she was lying across the hood of his car with no panties on saying come get it……SHE WAS 15 years old…..I don’t get it.
@NIKA
“So when he went to the Cavs game in 2007 sitting behind Lebron why not tell him then. He could have tapped him on the shoulder and told him the truth, he could have screamed it on the Jumbotron, he could have wrote it on a hot dog wrapper. Gloria wasn’t there. So if he wanted to tell him, there was his chance. He didn’t and now three years later he wants to sue both of them?”
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You think you goin buy a courtside seat at an NBA game and just walk up to LeBron James?
Hey, hindsight is 20/20 and looking back, there are probably umpteen ways he could have located or attempted to contact LeBron. But, that doesn’t explain Gloria HINDERING the process all this time and either of them (Gloria or Lebron) granting him a test. What do they have to lose?
Dang typos galor… sorry y’all…
@Man…
YEP YEP but only to a certain extent since TECHNICALLY (State Law-Wise) Statutory Rape lays COMPLETE RESPONSIBILITY on the Legal-Aged ADULT… So He STILL GETS more blame for a Situation that could’ve been avoided ALTOGETHER if he was a REAL MAN & REAL ADULT — JMO
@GGOUCH
“she was 15!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I don’t care about the hoe lable you are trying to put on her because she slept with a team mate.
A 15 year old’s options are far less than the options of a 29 year old established attorney.
His mind set is different, his resources far more available.
….why didn’t he utilize his lawyerness to get to the bottom of this? Go to the house…talk to her parents…take responsibility that way. You allowed a child to decide your future and was seemingly ok with it. “UNTIL YOU LOOKED AT TV” If the news caption had been lebron james arrested for grand theft..opossed to Lebron James basket bal phenom.
HE KNOWINGLY SLEPT and IMPREGNATED a 15 year old child. I don’t care if she was lying across the hood of his car with no panties on saying come get it……SHE WAS 15 years old…..I don’t get it.
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Which is why I believe everyone should sign documents and maintain records of the ages of the people they sleep with. He said he didn’t know her age, she, nor her attorneys, even dispute the fact that he didn’t know her age. As we all know, that onus is on the older person to determine before hand so he should have asked for and maintained documented proof of her age before sleeping with her.
Now, that being said, how is HE going to know exactly WHEN she got pregnant??? He only knew he was a possibility. We all know pregnancy don’t last EXACTLY nine months down to the second. He was TOLD he wasn’t the father. Shouldn’t SHE know her time frame better than HIM?
She had the oppurtunity, way back in the gap, to seek out a paternity test on him. Wouldn’t a GOOD MOTHER WANT TO KNOW WHO FATHERED HER CHILD? Maybe that’s something done on another planet. I.D.K.
What is she hiding?
Ok Man, you want to blame Gloria let me break it down to laymans terms.
Remeber you were cutting the fat chick right? She shows up out the blue and in a general convo says I’m pregnant a month after y’all fluck. You say is it mine, she says no, but how do you spell your name & what is your middle name. You tell her Man I Don’t. She says cool is french? I’m going to name my baby MaIdn’t. You say that’s cool make sure he plays :insert something you’re good at: if he mines ok.
You mean to tell me you wouldn’t try and see if Fatty had had your baby?
@E-LOVE
“YEP YEP but only to a certain extent since TECHNICALLY (State Law-Wise) Statutory Rape lays COMPLETE RESPONSIBILITY on the Legal-Aged ADULT… So He STILL GETS more blame for a Situation that could’ve been avoided ALTOGETHER if he was a REAL MAN & REAL ADULT — JMO”
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Hey, I hear you brother, I really do. If you hold this man guilty of having sex with a teenager (even though neither Gloria, nor her attorneys do) than I understand. As we know, when it comes to statutory rape, one is guilty until proven innocent and people should take heed to that. Ignorance of the law is not a defense.
BUT that doesn’t explain that for nearly 30 years she hasn’t sought out HER CHILD’S FATHER. If nothing else, that is a disservice to LeBron.
Hell after all this time doesn’t LeBron have the right to not want to know? I know all this fame and money has to have him paranoid is hell right now.
If I were in his shoes this right here would turn me completely off to even a possibility of getting to know the man who wants to be his daddy 20 years later.
@NIKA
“Ok Man, you want to blame Gloria let me break it down to laymans terms.
Remeber you were cutting the fat chick right? She shows up out the blue and in a general convo says I’m pregnant a month after y’all fluck. You say is it mine, she says no, but how do you spell your name & what is your middle name. You tell her Man I Don’t. She says cool is french? I’m going to name my baby MaIdn’t. You say that’s cool make sure he plays :insert something you’re good at: if he mines ok.
You mean to tell me you wouldn’t try and see if Fatty had had your baby?”
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I like your references. And yes, I would make sure. But DNA wasn’t available in 1985!!!! LOL. There was no way to know definitively back then.
Now, that being said. If YOU had 3 or 4 niggas (or whatever the number is) that COULD be your child’s father, and ONE of them WANTS to take a test to know for sure, WOULD YOU DENY HIM?????????????????????
**hopefully you answer in good faith**
IF I truly believed Lebron was my son and him and his mama were keeping me from him I would have showed up at that game and showed out! They would have me on camera wearing a t-shirt saying “I’m LeBron’s Daddy” and when the morning shows came calling I would put the story out there. If he wanted a relationship……and not a payday he would have contacted Lebron directly. He’s been dealing with Gloria thru Lebrons lawyer not LeBron. He didn’t sue until the Lawyer told him LeBron (and his money) didn’t want to have a relationship with him.
@SHAYBYTHEWAY
“Hell after all this time doesn’t LeBron have the right to not want to know? I know all this fame and money has to have him paranoid is hell right now.
If I were in his shoes this right here would turn me completely off to even a possibility of getting to know the man who wants to be his daddy 20 years later.”
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Yeah, but that man has a right to know. LeBron possibly couldn’t even be here without him. Not that it obligates LeBron, but this dude shouldn’t be penalized either because Gloria or LeBron don’t want to take a test.
@NIKA
“IF I truly believed Lebron was my son and him and his mama were keeping me from him I would have showed up at that game and showed out! They would have me on camera wearing a t-shirt saying “I’m LeBron’s Daddy” and when the morning shows came calling I would put the story out there. If he wanted a relationship……and not a payday he would have contacted Lebron directly. He’s been dealing with Gloria thru Lebrons lawyer not LeBron. He didn’t sue until the Lawyer told him LeBron (and his money) didn’t want to have a relationship with him.”
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“You get more bees with honey than vinegar”
You “showin out” would have only made you appear to be a nutcase. I think this man tried the “diplomatic” route to no avail, so he pursued what options were left to him.
Nika405 says:
Ok Man, you want to blame Gloria let me break it down to laymans terms.
Remeber you were cutting the fat chick right? She shows up out the blue and in a general convo says I’m pregnant a month after y’all fluck. You say is it mine, she says no, but how do you spell your name & what is your middle name. You tell her Man I Don’t. She says cool is french? I’m going to name my baby MaIdn’t. You say that’s cool make sure he plays :insert something you’re good at: if he mines ok.
You mean to tell me you wouldn’t try and see if Fatty had had your baby?
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GREAT BREAK-DOWN!!!!
@Man…
Just LIKE Allen Iverson’s Mother, LeBron’s Mother Antics, Behavior and LACK OF BEING a real presence in HIS LIFE AS A ACTIVE Participant was well documented & KNOWN throughout Akron…
So measuring HER NEGLECT/Obligation to THE SPERM-DONOR can’t be assessed BY THE YEARS that you are suggesting it is (Real…)
@Man, no I wouldn’t deny them. If I was skanky enough to have sex with that many potenial dudes, my baby has the right to know his REAL daddy, not who I want to be the daddy.
As far as DNA not being around that’s true….but this dude heard that stupid story from Gloria’s mouth and didn’t even think twice….kept it all the way moving and when DNA testing became the norm (mid 90’s) didn’t think of the basketball playing kid named Lebron. Even though he had called himself Lebron for 12yrs.
@man
Yeah, but that man has a right to know. LeBron possibly couldn’t even be here without him. Not that it obligates LeBron, but this dude shouldn’t be penalized either because Gloria or LeBron don’t want to take a test.
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So who’s rights supercedes whom? If LeBron comes out and says he just don’t want to know one way or the other. He chooses to make the same mistake his mom made. He doesn’t want this man to be attached to him in any way shape or form. Then what? Why should LeBron be punished for the crimes of his father?
@NIKA
“no I wouldn’t deny them. If I was skanky enough to have sex with that many potenial dudes, my baby has the right to know his REAL daddy, not who I want to be the daddy.
As far as DNA not being around that’s true….but this dude heard that stupid story from Gloria’s mouth and didn’t even think twice….kept it all the way moving and when DNA testing became the norm (mid 90’s) didn’t think of the basketball playing kid named Lebron. Even though he had called himself Lebron for 12yrs.”
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Why is this dude expected to keep up with middle school basketball players??????????????????????????
Why didn’t SHE just call him up in the phone book, like she did to tell him she was pregant, and say let’s get this nigga tested?????????????????
And you know what, MAYBE he WOULD have gone through all these motions you keep suggesting (going batchit crazy at a game, goin on tv, etc) IF SHE HADN’T LIED AND SAID IT COULDN’T BE HIS!
I guess he should have known in advance that she was lying too. SMH.
@SHAY BY THE WAY
“Yeah, but that man has a right to know. LeBron possibly couldn’t even be here without him. Not that it obligates LeBron, but this dude shouldn’t be penalized either because Gloria or LeBron don’t want to take a test.”
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“So who’s rights supercedes whom? If LeBron comes out and says he just don’t want to know one way or the other. He chooses to make the same mistake his mom made. He doesn’t want this man to be attached to him in any way shape or form. Then what? Why should LeBron be punished for the crimes of his
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In this scenario I don’t think it would be THAT much of a hindrance for LeBron to have his mouth swabbed.
So with that, I think it is the potential father’s rights that supercedes the other.
Besides, it would still be in LeBron’s best interest to know. Might have a genetic disease or something that run in the family…
@man
and DNA was around in 1985.
@SHAY BY THE WAY
“@man
and DNA was around in 1985.
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DNA was “discovered” around 1985. The science for paternity tests wasn’t until years later.
@man
In this scenario I don’t think it would be THAT much of a hindrance for LeBron to have his mouth swabbed. So with that, I think it is the potential father’s rights that supercedes the other.
Besides, it would still be in LeBron’s best interest to know. Might have a genetic disease or something that run in the family…
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It’s not a matter of inconveinence. It a matter of Leicester wanting his place in Wikipedia as LeBron James’ dad. What if LeBron’s refusal is based on the fact that he just does not want him to have that title. Then what?
Leicester’s right to claim him supercedes LeBron’s right to remain a bastard? Why come?
And from all accounts, Gloria was the victim of a crime. Her actions after may have been morally wrong but not a crime. He should be thanking her. If she had of done the right thing, he life would be drastically different. Black man + sex offender= no a good look or life for Leicester.
Sorry again for the typos. I really can spell and string together a grammatically correct sentence. Must be the lack of sleep I got last night.
shoot…yall where really debating in here, slow work day?
I dont have time to read paragraphs lol
@SHAY BY THE WAY
“It’s not a matter of inconveinence. It a matter of Leicester wanting his place in Wikipedia as LeBron James’ dad. What if LeBron’s refusal is based on the fact that he just does not want him to have that title. Then what?
Leicester’s right to claim him supercedes LeBron’s right to remain a bastard? Why come?
And from all accounts, Gloria was the victim of a crime. Her actions after may have been morally wrong but not a crime. He should be thanking her. If she had of done the right thing, he life would be drastically different. Black man + sex offender= no a good look or life for Leicester.”
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Not using “conveinance” as a “determinate” to have the test, but rather diluting any argument AGAINST having the the test. I don’t think it’s unreasonalbe for LeBron to take an hour or so (however long) to have his mouth swabbed to settle this.
LeBron doesn’t “decide” who he “allows to have the title” of his father. The truth is the truth, and either this man is his father or he isn’t. LeBron’s feelings on the matter don’t change the facts.
Yes, Gloria’s actions after the fact WERE MORALLY WRONG. And as I have stated repeatedly, he should have gotten and maintained records “proving” her age before having sex with her. BUT, I think there is a reason she didn’t press criminal charges or seek child support.
Man…where do they do that? Who gets and maintains records of vital statistics of their sex partners? Did I miss a law? If people thought liked that than your updated test results would be in the same drawer as the condoms…Like licence and registrations..
It is registered that I am clean and this condom gives us licence to FLUCK!! Ok lets get it now!!!
What Diabolic plan did a 15 year old pregnant girl have in not seeking child support. What was that plan?
@Man…..just like you would have tested Fatty because her story sounded suspect after she told you it wasn’t yours, so should have LeBron Sr. Blood typing(I know it wasn’t as accurate) was the method that was used to determine paternity before DNA testing. If after havng that convo with Gloria and then finding out she was 15 and he was 29 he should have wanted to be certain he wasn’t the daddy.
If he wanted to come back 20+ years later and try and establish paternity…..oh well. He missed out he needs to build a bridge and use it to get over it.
But if paternity=sex offender status…..yeah I’m sure he fell back.
@GGOUCH
“Man…where do they do that? Who gets and maintains records of vital statistics of their sex partners? Did I miss a law? If people thought liked that than your updated test results would be in the same drawer as the condoms…Like licence and registrations..
It is registered that I am clean and this condom gives us licence to FLUCK!! Ok lets get it now!!!
What Diabolic plan did a 15 year old pregnant girl have in not seeking child support. What was that plan?”
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They don’t do that anywhere but apparently that’s what needs to be done in America. Read the laws, you are basically GUILTY until proven INNOCENT. If you have been proven to sleep with an underage child, there is NO DEFENSE. NONE. Even if they provide you with false identification, YOU would be guilty. You can look it up. So is it impossible for this man to have not known her age? No.
Does it matter? No. He slept with an underage child so by the statute itself he is “guilty.”
Now, I’m STILL trying to figure out what was Gloria’s plan. Like I said before, it is one of these:
A. she had another nigga thinking it was his and was footin the bill
B. she had something to hide, might have been a child prostitute
C. is scared Lebron will see all the lies she been telling
@NIKA
“…..just like you would have tested Fatty because her story sounded suspect after she told you it wasn’t yours, so should have LeBron Sr. Blood typing(I know it wasn’t as accurate) was the method that was used to determine paternity before DNA testing. If after havng that convo with Gloria and then finding out she was 15 and he was 29 he should have wanted to be certain he wasn’t the daddy.
If he wanted to come back 20+ years later and try and establish paternity…..oh well. He missed out he needs to build a bridge and use it to get over it.
But if paternity=sex offender status…..yeah I’m sure he fell back.”
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He COULDN’T have been certain in 1985 whether he was the father or not. It would be years later before even the concept of paternity tests was even proposed.
These are the facts
1. He says she didn’t know her age, she doesn’t deny this
2. His information was READILY AVAIABLE for her to contact him
3. SHE lied about him being the father
4. HE requested a court sanctioned DNA test
All this shoulda, woulda, coulda on him is from 20/20 hindsight. Even WITH THAT, he is still TRYING to do the right thing. NOW, what has SHE DONE besides lie and intervene with this man knowing HIS child??????????
I’ll answer, “nothing.”
@Man you wrong Homie! I read the court documents. He states he found out she was 15 right after he dropped her off the last time he saw her. He did give her his info, but he also knew her name and where she was after he knew she was 15 and pregnant.
They both choose to KIM, it’s not as if she led LJ to believe some other man was his daddy….hell maybe she didn’t know who it was……but don’t come around 20+ years later and file a lawsuit for MILLIONS because your “maybe baby” doesn’t want you to be his daddy. The courts can’t force a grown man to acknowledge someone as his daddy if he doesn’t want to.
Now watch this get dismissed and he can sit himself behind the Heats bench and think about what he coulda/woulda/shoulda been doing way back in 1985!
@NIKA
“you wrong Homie! I read the court documents. He states he found out she was 15 right after he dropped her off the last time he saw her. He did give her his info, but he also knew her name and where she was after he knew she was 15 and pregnant.
They both choose to KIM, it’s not as if she led LJ to believe some other man was his daddy….hell maybe she didn’t know who it was……but don’t come around 20+ years later and file a lawsuit for MILLIONS because your “maybe baby” doesn’t want you to be his daddy. The courts can’t force a grown man to acknowledge someone as his daddy if he doesn’t want to.
Now watch this get dismissed and he can sit himself behind the Heats bench and think about what he coulda/woulda/shoulda been doing way back in 1985!”
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He didn’t know she was 15 BEFORE HE FUGGED HER. Which she doesn’t deny. Everything after the fact regarding them having sex is irrelevant.
Yes, he knew her name and where she was when she said she was 15 and pregnant. AND THEN SHE LIED AND SAID HE WASN’T AND COULDN’T BE THE FATHER. The only way she could have told him that is if HE contacted her. LOL. I mean, she tell the nigga bold faced lie and HE is supposed to have done something different? Only the hoes in America, as Don King would say. He isn’t tryin to force a relationship on Lebron. Hail, if I was LeBron I wouldn’t want one either. But, had LeBron known him as a child, he may have felt different. That’s the problem.
Yeah, it may get dismissed, and if it does, it gives on partent carte blanche not to let another parent see their child and they can get away with it scott free if they can keep it up till the child is grown. Let’s hope that doesn’t happen. Plus, LeBron need to worry bout the niggas ON THE BENCH that’s fuggin his mother, not the niggas BEHIND the bench that already fugged his mother.