Just to be clear: no one is saying Barack Obama has to end the war between Israel and the Palestinians. That’s never going to happen.
Muslims want Obama to denounce the war the same way he denounced Russia for dropping bombs on Georgia.
But that’s never going to happen either. Because speaking out against the war would not benefit Obama or his rich and powerful Jewish supporters who pull his strings.
Loyal reader Keziah wrote:
Sandra,
I read your blog everyday and sometimes you make me crack up laughing and other times all I can do is shake my head. This time I wanted to stand up and give you a standing ovation when I read your blog about Muslims Protesting Obama. Sandra I just had this same discussion on a popular networking site because I too felt that it is our new President’s duty to speak out on the genocide that is occurring on Palestine. I know there is nothing he can personally do about it but I do think that he has a moral responsibility to say how much is too much.
Every year we give Israel 5 Billion dollars or more in tax payers money for what I do not know because the last time I checked their economy was doing just fine. 5 Billion Dollars is a lot of money and could be used to fix the No Child Left Behind Act by providing it with the funding it so desperately needs. We also give Israel the weapons that are killing these innocent people. Sandra I have two babies of my own and every time I look at their little faces and I hear about what’s going on over there my heart breaks.
Irregardless to whose right and whose wrong those babies deserve a future yet while they are sleeping at night the weapons that we give to Israel catches them unaware and kills them. Five little sisters out of one man’s seven children were killed while they were all sleeping in their beds. They ranged in age from 4 to 17!
Are these Hamas members?
What Obama says does not make sense at all, he spoke out on the Russia – Georgia conflict earlier this year, he’s talking about the economy, he talked about the abhorrable actions of terrorist in India but he can not talk about the 520 people over 100 of this are women and children in Palestine that are being slaughtered? Yesterday a hospital parking lot was bombed in Gaza, four paramedics were killed trying to get wounded patients to the hospital. The foreign press have been banned from Gaza even the
Israeli Supreme Court ruled that they should be allowed in. The only way to find out what’s really going on there is to watch Al-Jazeera English because they already had two reporters on the ground there before this latest incursion. These images are going out to the Arab World and are no doubt going to create Blow Back against us in the future.Sandra I just wanted to say Thank You for caring enough to post that and keeping it real! I voted for Obama, I drove out to West Philadelphia with my 2 year old and my 11 month old and walked up and down the street for his GOTV campaign, I stood in line twice just to get to see him in person and hear what he had to say. I was really hoping he was going to practice what he reached but I must say I am extremely disappointed and I now feel where you coming from.
Thanks so much. Keziah
Photo source: Atlas Shrugs
I guess people can stop calling Obama a Muslim now
What will Barack denouncing the war do for the victims? What the heck does Barack have to do with this war? Why is he responsible for it?
Isreal is gonna do what they wanna do anyway…….
I don’t know, what to think about this….I thought I did, but I’m lost again. I thought we had problems too in the US and a war that we were trying to end. I know he should say something, now Im wonderging what can we afford to do?? We honestly don’t have the means to do much! GOD HELP US ALL.
Naima .. u took the words out of my mouth …
back to enjoying my Tues !
Man Isreal don’t care what is said…..They gonna continue to do what they wanna do…….Fighting been going on before Barack and will continue to fight after Barack…..but now it’s up to him…….GTFOH wit dat…..
HOW CAN THE US SAY ANY THING TO ISRAEL WHEN HAAMAS WAS SHOOTING BOMBS INTO THEIR COUNTRY ??
ARE WE TO TELL ISRAEL NO YOU CANT DEFEND YOUR SELF JUST STAND THERE AND TAKE IT….. YOU KNOW THAT IF HAMMAS SHOT A BOMB INTO THE US WE WOULD BOMB THEM INTO THE MIDDLE OF THE EARTH. .
I could of sworn Bush is still President for 14 days.
Why do people keep comparing this with the Russia/Georgia incident. Georgia wasn’t messing with Russia like Hamas has been doing to Isreal.
Please correct me, but the back and forth b/w Palestine and Isreal has gone on for decades. Plus Isreal was chilling for minute with a cease fire but got tired of Hamas still blowing up THEIR woman and children.
So what are you gonna do? keep letting someone punch u in the face or finally fight back.
Either way its a sad situation. But once the President Elect is PRESIDENT he can get on it.
AND PLEASE BELIEVE he probably already is on it. You all have to stop and wonder what talks/negotiations are going on b/w Obame, Rice, Bush etc over this situation that the public has no knowledge of.
Any other words…be easy people. Ya got 14 more days!!!!!
Barack is not the Saviour……
Ok Cool but I am sick of the middle east stuff!!! What about Africa and Haiti!! and other 3rd world countries that need help!! yeah Obama should say something! But Hell The in the Middle East They Need JESUS!! You can’t control or even establish communication with a people so ruled by religion!!! and all the leaders are so RELIGIOUS, The problem I have with all these Religions with no regards for Human Rights or WOMEN! Please!
They need to get over it fiqure it out there leaders need to sit down and talk thats it! I am not trying to be heartless but there is trouble all over the world and Barack Obama can’t fix what all these men had part in BREAKING!
And In My opinion! They Should have dropped the Bomb and drained the oil long ago! Hey they did it to Japan back in the DAY!
@ Amen to that Goat .. nor is he the Anti-Christ (white horseman) … The Bible and the End time thologist calim that the Anti Christ is White and comes from a East European Country … now unless I’m incorrect .. Kansas/Hawaii/Kenya ain’t european …
yall go somewhere with that !
Goat- you hit right on the nail. Israel is gonna do what they want anyways.
I’m not worried that Barack isn’t making a public statement about this. Genocide
is occurring all over Africa and I don’t see people up in arms about Obama not
making a public statement about that!
I more concerned about his flailing political allies. First Blagojevich and now
Richardson…who’s next? Biden? Obama’s looking more and more like a common
politician , I hope I’m wrong!
Sandra must have missed the memo that the Jews are not/were not to comfy with Barack cause of his stance on Isreal, that being said they are NOT his biggest $$$ donors. To coin Frankies term at the end of the day this all goes back to the bible this ppl will be fighting until the end of time sad but true. I believe a cease fire should be called but not sure if or when that will happen. I hate innocent ppl in any parts of the world being killed no matter what race or religion.
teecee Says:
HOW CAN THE US SAY ANY THING TO ISRAEL WHEN HAAMAS WAS SHOOTING BOMBS INTO THEIR COUNTRY ??
ARE WE TO TELL ISRAEL NO YOU CANT DEFEND YOUR SELF JUST STAND THERE AND TAKE IT….. YOU KNOW THAT IF HAMMAS SHOT A BOMB INTO THE US WE WOULD BOMB THEM INTO THE MIDDLE OF THE EARTH.
The most sensible comment on this post…why are all of you acting like its not a back and forth situation, Palestine and Israel have been fighting for decades. Palestine is not a victim in this nor is Israel, its only because now Israel decided to get super gully and really go at the Hammas, that obviously all of you have your knickers in a twist. The in fighting between these two war torn countries will not cease because of Obama, look how many prime ministers and presidents from both Palestine and Israel have been assasinated, while trying to call for a cease fire. Both of the citizens of Israel and Palestine believe that they have the right to the Gaza strip and nothing anyone says is going to change that. This is a generational curse(do your knowledge, it was all written in the Bible) that will go on till the end of the time. I didn’t even vote for Obama and I’m black but seriously give him a minute to breath before throwing stones at him. Officially he is still the President ELECT not President.
@Herm is is a politician thats the only way one can be President. He can’t do any worse than any other white man before him so im good with my black President.
Also he has nothing to do w/ the Gov. he didnt put him in office. The ppl of IL elected their Gov.
CAN BARACK GET IN THE WHITE HOUSE FIRST. HE HASN’T EVEN BEEN SWORN IN AND YOU ARE ACTING LIKE HE IS THE END ALL BE ALL!
I don’t even pay much attention to these Middle East Conflicts anymore, they got another 4 to 5,000 more years to fight anyway.
Correction .. Palestine and Isreal have been fighting for Thousands and Thousands and Thousands of years.
back to your regulary scheduled program.
I don’t pay attention to these stories anymore, they been fighting for like 5,000 years and they got 5 more thousand to go.
sorry for the double comments
AND 1 more thing! In this letter Ole girl says she” is disappointed”! Let the man get in office and Sandra you say “another reader gets it in the headline” Its Like Whatever because Believe me John McCain Old ass would not have gave a fuck either and niether would Sarah Palins Dumb ass!! John McCain Was gonna be Dropping BOMBS on these MutherFuckers!! he was a WAR HERO and a Prisoner of war, so to me he had a score to settle and he was gonna pop shit for 4 years in the Middle East! And Drop Bombs cause he dont give a fuck!
Kymystry Says:
Correction .. Palestine and Isreal have been fighting for Thousands and Thousands and Thousands of years.
Actually Kymestry, the fighting between the Israelis and Palestinians dates back to the late 1800’s, early 1900’s continuing with Israel gaining independence in 1947 up until today.
Kymystry Says:
@ Amen to that Goat .. nor is he the Anti-Christ (white horseman) … The Bible and the End time thologist calim that the Anti Christ is White and comes from a East European Country … now unless I’m incorrect .. Kansas/Hawaii/Kenya ain’t european …
yall go somewhere with that !
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aiight girl LOL! I hear you loud and clear, I just didn’t want to ignore the similarities just because he is Black and ran for president. I couldn’t let the devil blind side me completely with color…So I did some research. Not long after his mom and pop (muslim) divorced a few years later his mother remarried they moved to Indonesia with his step father (who is also muslim) he lived there until he was 10, then he moved with his grandmother and grandfather. All I know is this, I knew the Lord very well by the age of 4 and at 10 I knew that going to church everyday was what my Grandma made me do because she wanted me to go to heaven. These years are when children are influenced the most,especially with religion. Now with 2 muslim fathers, an athiest for a mother, and a buddist for a sister, its really hard to believe to christian grandparents stepped in at the age of ten and reversed the entire process….I’m just not convinced that he is muslim, but I can’t say that I believe he is a true believer in Christ, at least not based on what the Bible requires him to believe. But don’t get mad girl…this should only be a friendly debate, one thing I know not to do is force my beliefs in religion on ANYONE except my Chil-Rens LOL!
@ Daisy
I know that the ppl of IL put our governor in office, I was one of them, I’m from Chi city but I didn’t know of his wicked ways. Before the Blagojevich scandal broke, Obama and him were cool and they were allies.
I’m not bashing Obama but I’m being honest and logical about the events that have been happening before he has even taken the oath of office. He can do worse than any white man, him being biracial has sh!t to do with it! I’m not gonna sit here and defend a man bc he’s the same color I am. When you’re wrong, you’re wrong, and Obama’s handy allies are falling down in corruption…it doesn’t look good for him.
Another lackluster attempt to discredit Obama. I guess it doesn’t even matter that the man hasn’t officially taken office, yet she is “disappointed” in his performance! Honestly Sandra, did you create this email yourself or just pay someone to write it on your behalf? You’ll try anything to slander him, first he was a Muslim lying about his religious beliefs (hey Sandra where are the pictures of him purchasing his X-Mas tree with his family…huh?)and now he is a bad President for not stopping a war that began prior to his own parents birth…lol! Good to see you starting the New Year right where you left off in 2008…HATING
@ Krysi … i’m not angry .. and We share the same beliefs … we truly do … Jesus
@Herm being cool doesnt mean friends and he was a Senator in that state so yes he knows the Gov. I am not only defending him cause he is BLACK. When you know wrong you know right is what I was always told. I will NOT agree 100% with what he does in his 8yrs but I wont bash him over the Gov, Wright, Ayers or anybody else some ppl have a problem with him knowing.
@ Hermosa…
I too am a lifelong Chi girl…and Obama and Blago were NEVA ALLIES, they were just members of the same political party…in fact, Obama isn’t even a PART of the infamous “Democratic Machine”, which spawned Blago and Daley (to name a trifling few)
In fact, you pretty much can’t FIND ANYONE who would say that they are an ally of Blago…and I mean…not just now…but last year, year before that, etc., etc.
In fact…NEVA IN MY LIFE HAVE I SEEN A DEMOCRATIC MAJORITY IN ILLINOIS HATE A DEMOCRATIC GOVENOR MORE THAN!!!
Blago dosen’t HAVE any friends or allies…NEVER REALLY HAVE…(except for his wife Patty…who is SUCH A LADY!!!)
Now, regarding Richardson…
Obama did what he needed to do to “thank” Richardson for breaking camp with the Clinton’s and supporting him EARLY in the game…which helped to deliver the MUCH NEEDED Latino vote to Obama…anything after that…is ON RICHARDSON!!!
Having lived in the Chi all of my life…and having worked for and personally seen lousy, stinking, do nothing, corrupt politicians my whole life…I have to say…I will give Obama this…
I now OVERSTAND why he ran for President so quickly, after being a Senator for such a short time…because he was SURROUNDED BY CROOKS!!!
And one more thing concerning ETHICS (which is what “pay for play” is all about in politics, i.e., Blago, Richardson)…it was OBAMA that helped write and push through the ethics law in Illinois that took effect on January 1, 2009…that will CURTAIL THE “pay for play” B.S. THAT IL POLITIICANS ARE NOTORIOUS FOR (in fact, it was the LAST thing he did as Illinois Senator)…and it is OBAMA who went after ethics on a national level when he got to Washington…(Scooter Libby anyone?)
See…I’m looking at what Obama has DONE when it comes to being clean, not who he runs with (which, by the way, he has NO CHOICE, THEY ARE ELECTED OFFICIALS)…and I see that Obama walks tall and quietly…and swing a REALLY BIG STICK!!!
@Lala thanks for making my point..lol Good looking out.
@ Daisy
I’m not bashing him for other people’s scandals. My point is Gov. Blagojevich and Obama were allies. Blagojevich did alot for Obama’s campaign as far as sponsoring and support in the state of Illinois!
Richardson’s case causes more concern for me. He was ready to be appointed into the Obama administration and now his scandal broke.
I’m thinking logically, his hands aren’t clean I just hope he has a good conscious.
Kymystry Says:
@ Krysi … i’m not angry
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Good, Im glad you’re not upset. My father and I had it OUT!! LOL, he wanted me to vote for Obama because he was black, and I told him NO. I loved the idea of it, and I couldn’t help but support him, but I didn’t vote. I would feel ultimate defeat if he turned out to be the white horseman and I help put him in place. However, I do not hold anyone else to that conviction because I could be wrong and I hope I am. Obama just came out of no where, he had not been detected. Then he emerges as this great speaker of change and peace. Some people believe the white horseman resembles him being biracial, and his mother being white, which ultimately made it easier for whites to vote for him as well im sure. I don’t know, but I had to do it for me, because I love JESUS more than anything historical on this earth that could occur. The Bible our only source of survival in this world so I try to pay attention to things as much as possible. I ain the best Christian, but I will never serve another GOD and if it ever came down to it I would lay my life down to prove it.
and swing a REALLY BIG STICK!!!
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LMAO…now thats funny.
israel rules the world thats why no one says anything about it. why is everyone acting like he hasnt said anything!
@herm I NEVER said his hands were clean..lol Thats why I made it a point to say he is a politician.
@Krysi did you just not vote for Barack or you just dont vote period if I may ask?
@Daisy
Oh, I didn’t vote period. I wasn’t about to vote for NO MCCAIN?? No way, come hell or high water.
I voted as soon as I turned 18 I registered I voted twice, once for Al Gore, and another time for John Kerry, needless to say we lost. Oh yea and I’m from FLORIDA!
@Krysi So you voted for Gore and Kerry but not Barack? You mentioned something about being a Christian and loving Jesus is that why you didnt vote for Barack? Again just asking not judging.
“Another Reader Finally Gets It…Loyal reader Keziah wrote…”
Who? Who is this ‘loyal reader’? Clearly someone who only lurks and never posts. Does that make her email to Sandra less worthy? I don’t know…maybe, maybe not.
But are we chastising the man who currently IS the President of the US for not ‘acting’ on this most recent conflict between Palestine and Israel? No…then why should Mr. Obama do anything – speak about, act on, whatever – on this situation.
Are people not getting it or did they just not hear his message…for the 80th time he DID speak on this!….my comments must be invisible or something…do your research.
and sandra you crack me up cause it doesn’t matter WHAT you say because he can’t win in YOUR eyes…
you say this…”Muslims want Obama to denounce the war the same way he denounced Russia for dropping bombs on Georgia.”
but a few weeks ago you were the same person trying to say he actually is a muslim in a negative connotation…wth? So basically if he went out and did take their side then you would be further more trying to prove your point…you are contradicting yourself.
on another note….that pic is VERY sad though…bout to make me cry…
I didn’t vote for Obama because of MY beliefts, in what “I” interpreted from scriptures I read in the book of Revelations. I don’t have anything against Obama and I am extremely proud of him, but I love GOD first, and since “I” felt suspicious about him “I” didn’t vote for him. I do not and will not regret my decision even if I turned out to be wrong because the LORD’S WILL IS ALWAYS DONE, regardless of what mistakes I make. I am at peace with that. Yes I voted for Gore and Kerry, and NO they did not fit the bill, had they, I would not have voted for them. The Bible also spoke on Bush’s presidency, and it clearly stated that his elections would be based on the people vs. the WILL OF GOD. In which, THE WILL OF GOD WAS DONE for whatever reason there was Bush remained president and there was nothing we could do about it. My uncle who interprets the Bible voted for him twice, and my Grandmother and I went off…He simply said that according to the Bible it was the WILL OF GOD for certain things to take place, and that event was one of many. I respected him for that, and made a decision to do the same with the 2008 election based on what I felt. Don’t think that just because Obama is black I would see him as a possible antichrist for that reason. I had to follow my heart (my heart loves GOD) and thats all that mattered to me.
teecee Says:
HOW CAN THE US SAY ANY THING TO ISRAEL WHEN HAAMAS WAS SHOOTING BOMBS INTO THEIR COUNTRY ??
ARE WE TO TELL ISRAEL NO YOU CANT DEFEND YOUR SELF JUST STAND THERE AND TAKE IT….. YOU KNOW THAT IF HAMMAS SHOT A BOMB INTO THE US WE WOULD BOMB THEM INTO THE MIDDLE OF THE EARTH. .
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I am SO with you on this…America always feels like they have to poke their nose into someone else’s business…we are our OWN country…WHY do we feel like we always gotta “fix” something that ain’t got nothing to do with us??? That’s why a lot of countries hate us now…
this war is old not even the almighty himself (meaning obama) can do anything about it
@Krysi wow is all I can say other than sometimes ppl can be so heavenly minded they are no earthly good. As I christian who has a deep spritiual/personal relationship with God/Jesus I find your pt of view interesting. I am glad you stuck to your beliefs and did what you felt/believed God was calling you to do.
It is cold as hell here.
I’m with other posters I think it’s time for America to take care of America. Obama can speak out and say what he wants to but it’s not going to do a damn thing. If he disagrees I think he should speak out like he did for Russia. But in the end what can we do about it. We have people starving here no they aren’t being bombed by missles but because of the lack of education in America our own Americans suffer from drive by shootings, drugs, poverty. I personally think we need to take care of things at home before we can help others.
Don’t get me wrong I do feel bad for those beautiful little girls at the top of the page. I just know that there are children here in America that are also being killed on a daily basis in their homes in their beds.
War in Iraq
War in Afghastinan
Financial Crisis at home
How about we fix our shyt, before we put out statements about things that really doesn’t concern us now. People losing jobs, home, and the incoming prez is gonna put a statement about something that is happening miles away. You want him to wag a finger at Israel, well he is not the president right now, infact he won’t be for about two weeks.
@ Krysi.. I respect your decision but do you really feel that you could vote for Kerri and not Obama? I mean Kerri had some views that didn’t follow scripture either.
@ Hermosa… This political game dates back to The Declaration of Independence and if you think that anyone can become President of the United States or President of their Church’s Usher Board by only speaking to the “Good/Clean/Righteous” people, that’s ridiculous.
I’m not saying to turn a blind eye to fraud/injustice. I’m just saying that in politics, you are going to be along side questionable people every step of the way because 90% of the people that’s in a government office is there because of the “relationships” they’ve built.
This is rediculous. Let the man get in office first. Maybe he is picking and choosing what topics to speak on but that to me is smart. He can’t be a loose cannon and comment on every sensitive issue.You saying you are looking for change well maybe we should start with ourselves. As a society we haven’t changed. If someone does not do exactly as we expect we complain and put them down…while not knowing the persons true intentions or reasonings.Seriously he is attacking the issue right here in America which is the economy.So I guess maybe he should focus on that issue so that in 3 more months we will have even less jobs, a more crippled economy, and more people losing their homes and living on the street in America.Would that make you happy and satified.No because you would then start complaining about him ignoring the economy.I will say it again Presidency is a 4 yr. term you all are saying he is not about change and his term has not even started yet.By the way show me someone who changed years of the same in one month….Martin Luther King couldn’t do it…Abraham Lincoln couldn’t do it…show me someone who did…..Be realistic
Sandra, I agree with you. Obama is doing the safe thing to get him re-elected. He’s stroking the dirty media Jews dusty pelts, for now. LMAO
@ Starr…
If he’s going to speak out on anything, he need to speak up for my hometown in MS. If you ask me, he need to declare it a state of emergency there.
All of the factories have closed/ layed off in the last 6 months. To make matters worse, the few people that were able to keep employment worked at the casino.
We’ll officials came in at 3 o’clock Monday morning and put EVERYBODY out. The customers, employees, EVERYBODY. They had to shut that bad boy down.
Now you have at 60-70 of a town that have lost their jobs in 6 months. That’s pretty serious.
^^ shut the Casino down.
I guess ppl forgot that when Barack was running the Jews didnt really support him they backed HRC and finally held their noses to come over to his side fearing something like this would happen and Barack would do what he is doing now being silent and not defending Isreal actions to the death. I sure wish I still had a copy of that memo. If he was so worried about being re elected he would be very outspoken about this middle east situation.
Daisy say:
all I can say other than sometimes ppl can be so heavenly minded they are no earthly good.
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Hey, thats true, and upon my day of judgement I will know. Like I said earlier Im not the best Christian, but I will NEVER serve another GOD…and regardless of how heavenly minded that is compared to my earthly good or BAD…I mean it. Im not asking anyone to be ME, I will bare my judgements alone and thats why I don’t get caught up in those old Christians and how that feel about the way they expect me to act as a Christian. I love GOD, and they can’t take that from me. I appreciate your respect for my decision.
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Mississippi16 Says:
@ Krysi.. I respect your decision but do you really feel that you could vote for Kerri and not Obama? I mean Kerri had some views that didn’t follow scripture either.
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I voted for Kerry because at that time I was looking for anyone to be president except for George Bush, my Uncle told me different…and he explained to me why he continued to vote for Bush and he helped me see the bigger picture, we fussing and fighting about no GOOD this and that, but does it really matter in the end. I curse, I act a fool, and I make mistakes but to one thing I hold true and thats LOVING GOD. He knows my heart, and I know that the things I do that he disagrees with will not get me into heaven, but I also know that its never to late to do right. The love of GOD was instilled in me long ago since I was 4 years old leading the church in prayer…I got older, I strayed, BUT not far enough to forget who is GOD. I did it for ME, not my Daddy, not my friends, and not for the people who don’t agree. I think Obama is great, and as far as Kerri not openly acting on things that were holy, because he wanted to be elected president. What elect you know will have to nerve to take a stand for GOD and follow old Christian ways by the book to become president, knowing that the people of the world will not vote for them. Most of them lie, mainly about abortion, gay rights, etc…but once they become president they pass laws against these things or they will not allow laws to be passed for these things to be openly allowed. So I never really count those against or for any elect.
Am I the only one who cringes at the site of the “word” irregardless? It is wrong on so many levels.
*sight* or mention for that matter
@krysi so everybody who voted for Barack is serving another God?
Amazing. A lot of the comments are on point, so I won’t say much. I feel for all the babies Israeli and Palestinian. I blame the adults on both sides in leadership for this shyt. At the same token, if Palestinians really gave a shyt about their kids and communities, they’d stop Hamas and oust terrorists from their midst. These people are sleeping with the enemy and wanna wail and complain when their lack of judgment and principles result in attacks on them and their families??? FOH…I am not buying. I realize both sides are wrong for different reasons, but I am with Israel on this one. If Idaho lobbed bombs into Washington, I’d be at the front line my damned self. Why? My kids and family.
Daisy Says:
@krysi so everybody who voted for Barack is serving another God?
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“I” will never serve another GOD, comment back to you, in reference to your thoughts of me being “No earthly good” sweetie. I could careless what GOD the next person believes in thats their business as it is mine to make my own decisions based on my religion. I will never force my religion on anybody except my children, because of my experience I know that religion is best instilled at a young age and children RARELY stray from it. I knew eventually one of you would try to make me out of something for doing what “I” wanted to do. You voted right? Ok, so whats the problem?
@Krysi I never said there was a problem I was just asking question so you can CALM DOWN over there cause as I said in my earlier post I was ASKING not JUDGING. I dont have a heaven or hell to you put you or anybody else in. I say that comment all the time as far as ppl being some heavenly minded they are no earthly good it came from my pastor in college and I have been using it every sense where I see fit. I wanted to try and understand your reasons for not voting for Barack who you support and are proud of but you voted for Kerry and Gore. Just trying to see where you were coming from. Have a blessed day!
@Settle most ppl are on Isreasl side and not saying it makes it right but the other side feels Israel stole their land. I feel this is all about oil like everything else in the middle east.
@ Krysi… We’ve asked you questions about your choice but not judged you because of it. This is an open discussion. So please don’t label others.
It’s not serving a God, it’s choosing a leader. We choose leaders in our high school student body, we choose leaders in academic groups, we choose leaders in religious groups/ churches, we even choose leaders in volunteer organizations.
Why is it that when it was time to choose a leader for our country, we are worshipping other Gods. I’m not judging you and respect you for taking a stance on what you believe in but I’m going to have to say GTFOH with that other part.
@Miss I am DEAD at your last comment..lol You are a sure nuff FOOWELL as my friend from college would say..lol You also made a good pt we choose leaders in every aspect of our lives but only when it comes to the President do some want to bring God into the mix.
@ Daisy… after I submitted my comment i read yours and thought, maybe I should have said it nicer like Daisy did.
@Miss I try to play nice and keep the peace thats my natural personality not just on line. Stay true to who you are as well. I needed that laugh I mean it was so sincere then BAM..lol
I too am a very nice person and peace keeper (my friends give me a hard time about it) I just don’t like to feel attacked either.
Daisy says:
I wanted to try and understand your reasons for not voting for Barack who you support and are proud of but you voted for Kerry and Gore
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I thought I explained it. You’ll probably never find any reason in it if you don’t agree though. I can respect your opinion of it as well. Just like I don’t see how out of all of that explaining you somehow made it out to mean anybody who voted for Barack served other GODs??? Why would I say something like that?? It was “MY” decision “MINE”, based on what “I” interpreted “I”. I clearly stated that “I do not exspect anyone else to make a decision based that conviction…..becasue I COULD BE WRONG”……………?? How did it come down to BELIEVING IN GOD if you DON’T VOTE for Obama….I didn’t say that!
Mississippi16
@ Krysi… We’ve asked you questions about your choice but not judged you because of it. This is an open discussion. So please don’t label others.
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What are you talking about? :/
Mississippi16
Why is it that when it was time to choose a leader for our country, we are worshipping other Gods. I’m not judging you and respect you for taking a stance on what you believe in but I’m going to have to say GTFOH with that other part.
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WTF? Come on man, this is some shyt you came up with on yo fukking own………..I ain say dat shyt point blank period. Telling me to “GTFOH” wasn’t even CALL FOR, cuz the bottom line is I don’t give a fukk what neither one of yall think…I did the shyt cause I felt is was the right thing for me as a GROWN ASS MF woman with her own MF mind to DO! So all that talking out the side of yo neck shyt “I ain no earthly good” “GTFOH”, you can cut that shyt shawt.
What the fukk I look like judging a MF cuz dey didn’t vote based on their on fukking decision….ask ya selves that.
I usually lurk on this board but I had to log in because of the grammatical error. The word “irregardless” is NOT a word. I could not read the rest of this post because of that word. Just a quick English lesson, the word is regardless. Regardless means in spite of everything
^5 @comment #60
At least it just wasn’t me upset about that word. Every time I hear it, I shudder.
But I agree with everyone on this board who said that we need to take care of America first. I can sympathize with what’s going on in Israel/Palestine we have a failing economy that in my opinion needs more attention than a group of people who have been fighting for years.
@ Krysi… I didn’t say that you were no earthly good. I also said that I DO respect that you stood on what you believe.
You don’t have to explain your walk with God and neither do I. Nobody EVER said that you were wrong or they disagreed with you not voting.
Your words came across as if IN YOUR OPINION, choosing Obama is like not choosing God. And for those that do love God and worship and have a relationship with Him for themselves, it’s an insult.
@ Krysi…
Don’t get mad at ME because your words came across like they did.
All of you people say we need to take care of America first well if Obama gets into office and let’s this go on any further then its going to create more terrorist sympathizers who want to do us harm. The people in the middle east know that it is our weapons that are killing the Palestinians and they know we give them billions of dollars of tax payers money every year!!! If we stop doing that then Israel would stop doing what it’s doing! Remember all of you we supported South African Apartheid too until the world’s outrage forced us to act and to change our opinion! The same thing needs to be done in this situation!
Mississippi16 says:
Your words came across as if IN YOUR OPINION, choosing Obama is like not choosing God. And for those that do love God and worship and have a relationship with Him for themselves, it’s an insult.
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OF COURSE its an insult, because thats A STUPID thing to say or think! I WOULD NEVER SAY SOMETHING LIKE THAT! I would never come at anybody like that…
Mississippi says:
Don’t get mad at ME because your words came across like they did.
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I became pissed when you said GTFOH when I didn’t say anything like that, but your assumptions caused you to react as if I did. Don’t be upset with me because of your assumption and reaction…You started to go in before you even knew that the deal was. I didn’t like you and Daisy stating that I felt like you don’t serve GOD because you voted for Barak, thats so foolish of anyone to think or say. I was just something I felt I had to do for ME. Some people felt the same as me and voted anyway because they know these things will take place regardless of what they did. I just felt like if i had these suspicions about Obama and voted for him anyway, it would be wrong of ME to do. So I just couldn’t do it, because MY love of GOD comes first. And no matter how much I wanted to see history change pace I had this feeling that if it turned out to be true I would always regret going against what I felt. In my mind I would have knowingly voted for a man I felt could be the antichrist, just because he was black and by saying that I’m referring to MYSELF alone, not EVERYONE, because EVERYONE doesn’t think Obama is the Anti-Christ. I for one just think its a huge possibility, with the combination of the signs of times and all.
@ Krysi… You have right to choose what’s best for you… so be it. Your words came across like they did and I’m obviously not the only one who took it that way because Daisy thought you were saying the same thing. I hadn’t even read her comments when i typed mine.
I apologize for offending you and we’re gonna have to end this right here cause this could go back and forth for days.
@Krysi I see my comment struck a nerve and I wasnt saying you were no earthly good in general but I was saying based on your explantation that you were taking things in a heavenly realm when it wasnt called for IMO because I was gonna work w/ you had you said you didnt vote at all but you voted for Gore and Kerry but want to take Obama to the bible and it bothers me when we as a ppl want to hold our own to a higher standards. The bible speaks of govt and rulers as well. Also I did NOT curse at you because cursing as never been my strong suit. I asked you question about your statement to have dialect and to have a better understanding. Yes your original comments did come off as in you and your Uncle who interupts the bible know something no other christian knows and that Obama may or may not be the man on a white horse or whatever you were talking about. At the end of day you can vote or not vote for whoever you want to. I was trying to understand where you were coming from. Again I would never try and tell you or anybody else how to vote or what God to serve. I just found it interesting that you went religious when it came to Barack Obama a man you supported and are happy he won. I believe he is a child of God because thats what he says and not at any pt in time has he done anything to prove otherwise. He is not perfect cause none of us are. I dont worship him or consider him the Messiah, I actually get offended when ppl joke about this but oh well such is life. Again have a blessed day.
Daisy says:
I was gonna work w/ you had you said you didnt vote at all but you voted for Gore and Kerry but want to take Obama to the bible and it bothers me when we as a ppl want to hold our own to a higher standards.
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Damn why black people always gotta play the race card huh? I wish Gore and Kerry were black so you would pay more attention to what the hell Im saying! I don’t care about what color HE IS…infact I consider the man BIRACIAL. I based my decision soley on the way he carries himself, his up bringing, and statements that he made concerning religion. I think about these things differently now, Im not just an 18 year old registered to vote like half of the kids who got Obama in office anymore, I’m older and I base my decisions on what I believe and whats important to me, so I followed my gut. And yes you are right, what you said DID strike a nerve, because I know that I need to improve, I would like to be someone who is both Heavenly minded and Earthly good one day. Yes, my spirit was convicted about not doing everything as I should and still wanting to be considered a Christian. I may not be the best example but that doesn’t mean I don’t want to be. Those thoughts however had nothing to do with why I decided NOT to vote for Obama, I feel like I did the right thing, and to me that was a step towards MY earthly good. Don’t WORK WITH ME on anything, its not your concern to do so and that would be a waste of your time and mine. Why would I need you to “work with me”, thats silly, Im a grown aZZ woman. Thanks for acknowledging that the deed is done and my decision was my RIGHT. It was really nice having this conversation with you, and you have a blessed life as well hun.
@Mississippi
I apologize for what I said as well….I knew the minute that I wrote that, someone was going to think I was crazy or something…but you cant please everybody all the time so…. I agree that the conversation should end. This is probably the same type of on going debate that started the war between Isreal and the Haamas in the first place. I respect you for not judging me because of the decision I made.
@Krysi I dont have to play the race card I live it everyday with every other black person and I could say you played the race card by giving Kerry and Gore a pass but not Barack. I didnt even waste my time reading your entire post.
You are not the only grown azz woman “working with you/someone” is a COMMONLY used phrase. I thought you were grown enough to have a decent/civil convo but I clearly thought wrong.
@Miss thanks for your input in this convo.
Daisy says:
I didnt even waste my time reading your entire post.
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Cool.
Daisy says:
You are not the only grown azz woman “working with you/someone” is a COMMONLY used phrase. I thought you were grown enough to have a decent/civil convo but I clearly thought wrong.
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so you changed your mind huh?
Listen, don’t insult my intelligence. I’m an educated black female sitting in front of a computer screen just like you. I’m sorry that you can’t find reasoning in what I did, I didn’t expect you too. When you don’t follow everybody’s lead people tend to think you have some sort of problem, so they lable you with anything they can come up with. Now, Im not decent enough to have a civil conversation…so be it. Truthfully I think we both knew this conversation would take a turn for the worse eventually…you don’t agree with me, I GET IT…why can’t you? Its not about color, its not about standards, its not about earthly good and bad, I can’t help that it took 8 whole years for Obama to run for president after I registered to vote, my entire thought process has changed. Yes, If I had been new to this voting deal, and my uncle hadn’t convinced me that I should focus on things that matter to GOD and not to me (This is only referring to ME, AND MY DECISION), then yea Obama would have had my vote.This entire conversation with you is really about me not doing what YOU felt every black person in america should have done on NOV 4th, and what you consider my EXCUSE, not being a good enough explanation of why I didn’t comply. Cool. I can live with that, because its our nature to be objective but Im at peace with what I chose to do. What makes you think I want to go back and forth with somebody I will never see about something “I” did, surely you are decent and civil enough to relate to that. Its useless.