Some of you will remember that post I did on Bow Wow’s close friend Bart Borders who was locked up in a federal pen last year on undisclosed charges.
Well, Bart was released in November to the same halfway house that T.I. will report to later tonight, the Dismas Charities West facility within walking distance of the Fulton County Airport, aka Charlie Brown airport.
I spoke with Bart by phone today and he had a lot to say about the halfway house that T.I. will call home for at least the next 2 months (T.I. has a March 2010 release date).
Bart, who is out on work pass until 10:30 p.m. on weeknights and 11:30 p.m. on weekends, said the facility holds about 120 male inmates and 20 females — yes, females! “But they have to stay on their side,” said Bart. “The only time we get to interact with (the females) is around meal time.”
He said the halfway house has two TV rooms and two living rooms, and the food there isn’t worth writing home about. “The food ain’t worth nothing. Peanut butter and jelly sandwiches,” he said. “But T.I. has his own money, he can order out.”
Bart, who manages rapper T. Waters, a So So Def artist, said T.I. probably won’t be able to leave on work release until after the New Year. But even then, he’s not allowed to work for himself or for his family. So he can’t work for Grand Hustle or any company he owns.
“If I see him when I get there I’ll tell him wherever he work at to make as least money as possible, because they getting 25% of his gross.”
All they really want is their money there,” said Bart. “They’re real unprofessional over there. You can’t let all black people run anything. If [the staff] ain’t gay, they’re old women – there’s nothing in between.”
Bart spoke kindly about his friend, rapper Bow Wow, who took good care of Bart’s two-year-old daughter and his family while he was locked up out of state.
You hear horror stories about rappers and other celebs (like Sean Combs) who leave their friends in the dust once they’re locked up. But, according to Bart, Bow Wow was always there for him.
“He just got back from Africa and he’s coming [to visit] for Christmas,” said Bart.
Bow Wow visits Bart regularly at the halfway house and even tried to visit him at the prison but was barred from visiting for security purposes. “He put a decent amount of money on my books. He came to the Atlanta jail to see me by himself — no security. He paid all my bills, my rent, made sure my daughter was alright.”
Bart said he taught Bow Wow — who grew up in suburban Columbus, Ohio — everything he needed to know about surviving the streets. “I had him in the middle of the hood, him and JadaKiss. He had on all his jewelry. Don’t nobody come through there like that besides Jada and them ’cause that’s their hood.”
On the other hand, So So Def CEO Jermaine Dupri has not visited Bart in prison or the halfway house (JD also hasn’t visited his artist Da Brat who is in a Georgia prison on assault charges).
Still, Bart wouldn’t say anything foul about JD (I tried to get him to throw JD under the bus but he refused). “He’s a good person. He did more than enough,” said Bart.
When asked if he would attend the upcoming Hot 107.9 Jingle Bash, Bart laughed and reminded me of his curfew at 11:30 p.m. on weekends.
Bart says he is scheduled to be released from the halfway house on March 9th — the same day as Bow Wow’s birthday. He’s planning a big bash of his own.
well at least somebody likes him
well bart, you’ve given several counts of how bow wow has been a friend to you. i want to see if he’ll return the favor as the years go by.
friendships, even with people we think are our best friends, often times are one sided. you never know how best friends people ‘aren’t’ until YOU NEED THEM after being the one everyone could rely on. we’ll see.
After lurinkg all day I’m amazed that this is the first thing I wanted to comment on :blank stare: My heart is warmed a little after reading this… maybe it’s because my brother stays in and out of jail and everytime he “goes away” so do his so called friends.
Well…he seems to be doing well
I always liked that picture of clifford
Who knew the lil midget had it in him….I mean I always thought he had a stank attitude but this helps make him look better……But he did stand up for Omari so i should know Bow loves his boys down….
But I
with point comment 2
I feel the same way KiKi (been lurking all day and decided to comment) He sounded really positive; let’s hope the system rehabilitated him… wait… what was the random dude in for?
Also, Don’t get pics of a funeral or the people who scan and email the obituary…
Congrats on gettin Halfway home T.I.
Everything else escapes me…
Back to lurkin’ and workin’…. Oh wait – Happy Holidays S.R. Fam!!! Thanks for all the laughs =)
@krysi-2 people like Bow Omari(did we forget how bow defended his man to Toure) & this dude..
His serving time in prison is like another womens pregnancy, that went by fast. Dude told him not to make too much money because they get 25%. Jails/Prisons have been doing it big for years, and they don’t mind building new ones to keep their money flow going. Some don’t even feed the prisoners the correct amount of food they are too recieve per meal and are pockeing the savings from tax/grant dollars.
i think jay said it best u find out your real friends in time of success when u dont need each other. when u both broke u both broke. if one is successful and one not then they can count on the other but when you both got money and dont need each other thats when u can tell if the friendship is real
pointhimout Says:
friendships, even with people we think are our best friends, often times are one sided. you never know how best friends people ‘aren’t’ until YOU NEED THEM after being the one everyone could rely on. we’ll see.
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I think Bow Wow more than proved his friendship and loyalty to Bart. A lot of rappers would have forgot about their friends on the inside. I commend the man for holding his friend down.
@krysi-2 people like Bow Omari(did we forget how bow defended his man to Toure) & this dude..
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I thought the fell out for some reason, well regardless we have to add another to that number anyway
we forgot his mama.
@11, SR, I absolutely agree. Bow Wow definitely has.
@krysi-Omari & bow had a falling out……..Oh yea it was ova that flop album they bought out Bwwahhhahahaha…
Oh and don’t forget to add JD they are on good terms again….
So does this mean ur gonna be nice to Bow Wow now Sandra? Cmon, you can do it…….lol
M_promp2 Says:
So does this mean ur gonna be nice to Bow Wow now Sandra? Cmon, you can do it…….lol
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That’s going to be hard to do but I’ll try.
Why did i just find out Plies is a goon with a nursing degree …I had no clue…..I guess he knows the correct to give himself a proper “becky” & “medicine”…..he is my type of goon
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‘….he just came from Africa…’
!$%£ I get violently angry at people. Africa is NOT a country, it’s a CONTINENT!!!! *Pulls bantu knots out in clumps and writes a list of African countries*
Venting through, now back to watching all new Two Pints of Lager and a Packet of Crisps!
sandra, you have been in a really good mood lately. good for you.
@ 18 P-Lies is an educated goon.
So does that mean that Bart is/was Bow Wow’s top?
Just joking, just joking. No seriously, I commend Bow Wow for holding his friend down. You get so many people that don’t and won’t hold their friends down, and be all talk about how they would hold them down… And these are people without money that are shady.
So I do commend Bow Wow on that.
Bart told me he has a 24 hour pass to leave the facility on Fridays and return on Sunday. So I’m sure T.I. will get the same.
Yes Sandra, You have been so nice. IS that the Yuletide spirit? Happy Holidays Auntie. I’m so happy to be part of the SR family. Thanks for the open registration, now I have something to do with my time at home until school starts up for me.
@missy
Plies is very educated and it shows during his interviews
that ive seen.I was :surprised: to find out that he graduated with a degree from nursing because he says alot of ignorant things in his music.I just hate the whole goon/goonette gimmick that he has going on.I do like some of his songs esp shawty
If so, congrats, J-Hud.
Bow Wow is a great friend for being there when his boy needed him.
Mirsmommy said:
You get so many people that don’t and won’t hold their friends down, and be all talk about how they would hold them down… And these are people without money that are shady.
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You ain’t never lied….. the shyt happened to me recently…LOL not jail, but that “I’mma look out for your girl!”….but it’s all good, God’s lookin out for me!
Happy Holidays Family
@commonswifey & Dorcely
I know Plies sound like a smart person….But I can’t stand his whole gimmick it makes no sense to me……I do like some of his songs but I feel he should not have to have to pretend to be a goon to make music……
JD and Da Brat are still cool Sandra I know you heard him speak on this last wk on the radio so messy
JD will be the one to put da brat back on the map once she gets released
I heard the J Hud rumor but didnt believe the source so I will wait for now before I send out Congrats.
Dang! JHud ain’t playing, is she?? Dave Sr. is really laying it down! LOL
Congrats if it’s true
@ Missy
He’s educated and I commend him for that but why does he have to act uneducated in writing his songs?? “becky” for example. I hate that song in every sense of the word. He doesn’t have to dumb himself down to look good.
Why did I just hear my daughter ask her dad to text Jesus to say thank you for her eyeballs. And why is he acting like he is looking for the number???
Just thought that was funny and wanted to share it with you guys. \
Carry on…
Ms.kaylamomma Says:
Why did I just hear my daughter ask her dad to text Jesus to say thank you for her eyeballs. And why is he acting like he is looking for the number???
Just thought that was funny and wanted to share it with you guys. \
Carry on…
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that is so cute…..
Ms.kaylamomma Says:
Why did I just hear my daughter ask her dad to text Jesus to say thank you for her eyeballs. And why is he acting like he is looking for the number??? Just thought that was funny and wanted to share it with you guys. \
Carry on…
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gypsyeyes Says:
Yes Sandra, You have been so nice. IS that the Yuletide spirit? Happy Holidays Auntie. I’m so happy to be part of the SR family. Thanks for the open registration, now I have something to do with my time at home until school starts up for me.
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You’re welcome sweetie.
maybe plies should SLOWLY start changing his image. he already got called out by jamie foxx. i think he’ll start losing fans nonstop after a while
@ mirsmommy
She is 7. I just told him that if you don’t know the number by now, we’re in trouble. She just told him to look in the bible. I think its because they went to church without me Sunday and he took her to Children’s church instead of letting her come into the main church. I think she picked this up from there.
@Ms.kaylamomma.. That what she learned in Sunday school
They probably told her she can call on the lord anytime to thank him….
I heard the interview when jaime called him out. I dont think he will lose any fans because its been put out there that he was a fraud.People still listen to rick ross, so I think Plies will be fine.Hopefully Plies will change his image but I doubt it
The mighty dollar will make any man change …If he is not strong enough to hold his ground….
Now Ms.Kaylamomma- you know that she can call him on the main line.
missy Says:
@Ms.kaylamomma.. That what she learned in Sunday school
They probably told her she can call on the lord anytime to thank him….
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@ Ms.kaylamomma
Ms.kaylamomma Says:
@ mirsmommy
She is 7. I just told him that if you don’t know the number by now, we’re in trouble. She just told him to look in the bible. I think its because they went to church without me Sunday and he took her to Children’s church instead of letting her come into the main church. I think she picked this up from there.
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@ gypsyeyes
Trust me when your young you don’t know better..
When i was younger i thought when it rained God was flushing his toilet or crying…and thunder was when God was moving his furniture or he was angry ..
oh how i miss being young
Don’t judge me for comment 46 ..i was young and naive..
Dorcely Says:
@ Ms.kaylamomma
Thats cute. I just asked my daughter if she boo booed and she said yup. Does anybody have any potty training tips?
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Not at all.
I heard that it is a lot easier to potty train girls than it is for boys.
With my son, we put him on the potty as soon as he woke up, and several times during throughout the day. And try to make it fun for her, too. That helps.
Is she in day care or are you with her during the day?
Yes, My 2 year old girl was really hard to train until I started rewarding her with stickers. I bought a poster board and put stickers on it everytime. She knew that she couldn’t get a sticker unless she boo booed or pee-peed. I learned that on Supernanny(jo-jo is that best). Or you know you could buy the potty that talks at wal-mart.
missy Says:
Trust me when your young you don’t know better..
When i was younger i thought when it rained God was flushing his toilet or crying…and thunder was when God was moving his furniture or he was angry ..
oh how i miss being young
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@ dorcely
If she boo booed then that’s awesome. With my daughter, she wouldn’t do Number #2 in the potty, only Number #1. After time passed, then she finally did Number #2. After that, she went on her own. So my advice is don’t push it and be patient.
Still, Bart wouldn’t say anything foul about JD
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i will.
did we ever hear if JD went with his green, red, or gold elf suit at the party last night?
@ Ms.kaylamomma
Thank You. My daughter turns 2 in Jan, and we have been potty training since the summer. She will go #1 in the potty, but she wont boo boo
When she goes #2 in her pull up she will bring me a pull up so I can change her 
@gypsyeyes
The rewards are a good idea, I forgot about that. :yea:
@mirsmommy
Okay I don’t feel bad about thinking like that …… And i was the child that asked WHY? matter of fact i still do that ..
:random:
When i was younger my family and I were on a plane during a thunderstorm and the first thing out of me and my twin sister mouth was “Mommy is the plane going to crash?” ..My mom told me a woman started to scream when she heard us say that…But i did get airplane wings(probably to shutup but it worked)…
kwall Says:
did we ever hear if JD went with his green, red, or gold elf suit at the party last night?
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Yes, he was there. I heard the party was off the hook. Everybody got on him about Da Brat thing though.
@ mirsmommy
She is in home daycare. I feel bad because she goes #1 and #2 in the potty at daycare, but she wont with me. I think she is more comfortable at daycare cause she’s there M-F because I am at work
Dorcely Says:
When she goes #2 in her pull up she will bring me a pull up so I can change her
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That’s when you turn her around and give her one good pop on the butt one time. I promise she won’t bring you another full Pull Up. Make sure you tell her why you’re popping that butt. It won’t traumatize her because she’s 2. It’s when you prolong potty training that it traumatizes kids. I don’t condone spanking, but potty training is the one time you have to use it. It’s quick and will save you months of needless potty training.
Oh I hate people who have FREE *INSERT NAME* shirt ..I mean if the person is innocent okay..But if they are guilty let them pay their debt to society …Geesh no one told them to commit the crime
Okay im done..I just had to put that out there…
Let me see a free gucci mane or lil boosie shirt
.. i’ll BRRRRRRRRRR their azz
lol kwall u a trip he had on black with a bowtie
Sandra JD does care what folks have to say about him and da brat he came at LisaRaye and Katt williams last wk about commenting on him not going to see her.
East what did u have on?
kwall Says:
Still, Bart wouldn’t say anything foul about JD
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i will.
did we ever hear if JD went with his green, red, or gold elf suit at the party last night?
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@ Sandra Rose
Daisy Says:
Sandra JD does care what folks have to say about him and da brat he came at LisaRaye and Katt williams last wk about commenting on him not going to see her.
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He can make all the excuses he wants. The fact is he hasn’t gone to see her.
Dorcely Says:
@ Sandra Rose
If she smart enough to bring me the pull up she’s smart enough to go in the potty.
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But if she was going in the potty she wouldn’t be bringing you a full Pull Up, right? I’m giving you sound advice on how to put a stop to that with one good pop on her butt. Trust me, it works.
@ Sandra Rose
I hear you, and I agree. Plus she’s starting to show those terrible 2 signs so I have been popping her and putting her to bed early when she acts up
@ Dorcely & Sandra
Yall both gone to jail, you know you can’t pop ya kid these days. Someone gone call the cops think ya’ll abusing kids, the way we was raised, and the way of the world now is totally different. (Whispering) yall right though.
You know what else you can try sitting her on the toilet until she poop or tee-tee and jump around like your (crazy) so excited, she will recognize the fact that she did something good, and she will eventually want to do it all the time. Trust me it works!
He can make all the excuses he wants. The fact is he hasn’t gone to see her
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right. and we have had a convo on here before about female rappers but brat helped put so so def on the map. that is so sad. i love da brat.
glad to hear it @east. yall know i kid hard on here about JD. but i’m sure he is a cool azz cat.
Just wanted to test my gravi
BET is playing the movie “ATL”. A coincidence? I think not. TI is free.
@Lovely I just checked that other site and the post where I was clowning and I agree w/ you why must folks call ppl bishes cause you have a difference of opinion. I had to cuss bish please right on back out dont come for me when I aint send for you

@msKay I love ATL I am watching it now but then again I love all things TI
@ Daisy
dont come for me when I aint send for you <<<— thats my ish right there
I’m watching it too Daisy. I love me some Rashad. He is sooo sexy lickin’ those damn lips. Love the commentary on the commercial breaks. Where was I went they were holding auditions for Lauren London’s part??

Cute pic @ Lovelylady **whispering, is that all YOUR hair***
Sandra they arent excuses Da Brat is FINE with it so thats ALL that matters has she complained? N O! He said they write each other and he explained he didnt want to see his sister like that. People always love to ASSume
Also not everybody locked up wants everybody or certain ppl coming to see them locked up
Like he said he will be the one taking care of her when she is released making sure she is straight
I miss Aaliyah. “At your best” is my jam. If she was still alive, I believe she would have Beyonce status right now.
Dorcely Says:
@ mirsmommy
She is in home daycare. I feel bad because she goes #1 and #2 in the potty at daycare, but she wont with me. I think she is more comfortable at daycare cause she’s there M-F because I am at work
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I am going to offer unsolicted advice but only because we are family here and it’s my experience. I worked at many daycare centers and yes, we were with the kids Mon-Fri, potty training is not easy and we (the teachers)busted our butts to potty train the kids. You have to be consistant with it and we would get so fustrated when Friday arrived, or it was a long 3 day weekend because we knew the parents were going to not continue our task and put them back in diapers/pull ups over the weekend. There was not even any shame in their game when they dropped the kids back off on Mon. and they were wearing a diaper/pull up. We, the staff finally got together with the parents and suggested ways of helping them, help us potty train their child. You have to take them to the bathroom every hour, parents need to cut off their liquid in take after a certain hour but still get up every hour on the hour to take the kid to the bathroom, through the night. We in a very postive way let the parents know that we were helping them but that we also needed help to keep the structure in our classrooms. Yes with potty training kids love to be rewarded because it lets them know they did a good thing. I have even heard of someone “curtsey” after their child used the potty and it is a “instant” gratification because it makes the child feel special. Now don’t get me wrong, all kids are not ready to potty train at the same (age) this is why all the potty training kids are in the same day care class, it was not about a certain age but the maturity of the child. Just my 10 cents. Sorry so long but if I helped anyone save on diapers, and alittle less fustration, you are welcome.
Daisy Says:
Also not everybody locked up wants everybody or certain ppl coming to see them locked up
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I have heard that before, I think it was from Lyfe. He just wanted to serve his time and get out. Maybe some ppl need the isolation because they think they deserve the seperation from family and did not want their family to see them in their jail atmosphere.
Ms.kaylamomma Says:
Why did I just hear my daughter ask her dad to text Jesus to say thank you for her eyeballs. And why is he acting like he is looking for the number??? Just thought that was funny and wanted to share it with you guys
I choked on my fries reading that. That is tooooo cute.
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*whispering* yes ma’am
But that was last year, i cut it shorter this year.
Good advice Anna. :yea: Goodnight all. Alvin and the chipmunks come out tomorrow and my daughter is soooooo excited.
It’s cute Lovely. I was going to get some weave in my hair in that style but I have a Rhianna-size forehead so it wouldn’t work for me.
@Ms.kaylamomma-me & my sis are like the only people who think the chipmunk movie was boring……I like the cartoon though….
Any who gravi. check
OMG I am looking at Jay Leno without make-up on……..
Lol @ Kaylamomma,
I used a flat iron to deep wave it.
I mean i used a crippler iron to deep wave it.
Ms.kaylamomma Says:
Goodnight all. Alvin and the chipmunks come out tomorrow and my daughter is soooooo excited.
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Good night,
Should i be
because when i saw the previews i was overly excited. Im going to see that movie. 
@Missy
Natalie doesnt havve the best skin
@Daisy-No she doesn’t but she is persistently not wearing make-up…which is a
& Annie likes them married men…..
&Jay Leno-Likes the attention to much….
Poor Portia her daughter doesn’t want to talk to her on the phone……
@Missy my 3yr old nephew does the same thing to his mother and anybody else when he doesnt want to be bothered on the phone.
Yes Natalie loves attn. and she isnt running nothing but her mouth
I knew the fight was going to be at/near the end of the episode…
I knew these fools would do this to me…………
I know every child doesn’t like to be on the phone……but when you can’t bribe a kid to do something you know they must be upset about something or don’t want to be bothered…….
didn’t they speed date last season ?
Missy you see how much weight Tanasha lost from BGC. I dont rememba speed dating last season but they may have
Daisy yes girl..Tanisha looks so fab .. and gets a WORK BISH ((c)Daisy)
The fight is about to start
Flo is breaking down
but she is correct
@Daisy yeah they did speed dating at the same place last season (i researced it)
DRAMA
researced=researched
Yes I agree as well and why was Natalie humping on Kendra like that
Daisy says:Portia was just tired of Natalie anyway and I dont blame her ok you like $$ not everybody else is moved by that.
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I agree money isn’t everything ..Money comes and goes but love lasts forever..
Oh snap Portia going in *thank you * Portia saying everything i want to say…
…..Oh snap 
Kendra is a sheep ..When she speaks all I hear is …BAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA *weak azz bish*
Yeah fight fight fight
Portia win ding ding ding
Portia should have picked up something to hit her with maybe next time she will
I feel like those announcer who talks about the game play by play …..
YAY PORTIA “whooped that trick”
I think Portia won as well only thing natalie did was fling her to the ground but it didnt stop Portia from wailing on her the entire time.
Kendra “BAAAAAAAAAA”
hahahahahahahahahahahaha @Portia messing up Natalie’s face
Daisy i concur with you
Can’t wait for flo and Amber to fight…
Man another FIGHT next week!!!!
Yes she had an ice pack thats what her azz gets I dont even have kids and I felt Portia I would have done the same thing!!!
BGC, I’M HOOKED!
did yall just see on the preview where natalie says that girls boyfriend wants her? how dare she! i hope flo beats her chin in!
The next episode ain’t coming until two weeks
@JC yes I cant wait to see the fight next wk and I dont blame Portia for going in on Natalie she had an ice pack
@j.c. Jay leno aka Crimson chin ((c) Coa).. She thinks all men get hypnotized by her chin and bad skin
i know @ missy. she needs to take all that money she claims she has and invest in a bottle of proactive. geez. portia went in! i was laying down but i had to sit all the way up for that one! and flo is going to hurt something on the next show.
daisy, i was wondering why the hell portia went out there with that wig on, only to find it must be a sew in.
@JC Portia should have done that and much more I bet natalies azz will think twice about talking slick about somebody elses child or mothering skillz
Portia should have pulled her hair back right quick but she didnt have time for all that.
I agree Flo SLAMS ole girl down to the ground n 2wks
@ Anna
Thank You for the advice. I do cut off her liquids after 6:30, but I am going to try to start showing her how proud I am when she does use the potty.
Bad Girls club was good. Can’t wait for the reunion show. I can’t believe Natalie dates Olamide from Imajin. I used to love that group
Natalie wouldnt even come out on stage with the girls on Tyras show lets see if she CHINS up for the reunion show
Dang Daisy why didn’t you tell me you was on here talking about BGC?
JD look like the type that don’t visit jails. He too good I guess. I like Bart’s attitude about all this. Great for T.I. I know he’ll be glad when this is over wit. Team T.I
How do I get this Crying baby off my profile?????
@ Sandra Rose
I need help with my avatar. I can’t stand this kid anymore. I’ve tried to change it sooooo many times :crying1: I don’t know what to do…
As for Bow Wow, you know he’ll be looking for the payback when his friend gets out the half way house
Sandra, I am so happy for you, Tiny, the kids and Grand Hustle. This is wonderful news. Memo to Celebs (especially rappers): Put Clifford’s and R Kelly’s attorneys on retainer.
JD do you. F*** what n***** say. Besides, if Da Brat wasn’t acting like a grown azz gansta, no one would have to visit her azz in jail. She should have retired he gansta ways with her ponytails.
attorneymom Says:
Besides, if Da Brat wasn’t acting like a grown azz gansta, no one would have to visit her azz in jail
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lol good morning sandrarose family
what i miss? how much are the tickets for the concert
1) Who da hell is ‘Bart’?
2) What has he done and Why should we care?
3) When da hell did Shad a/k/a Bow Wow live in the streets, been in the streets or have any street knowledge? Except when he’s perpetrating a fraud in his videos!!!
Front’n on camera DOES NOT make you prepped fo da screets . They need to keep Bart on lock down for spreading this Blood clot lie!
@Yadda Yadda: I went to the process of getting an Avatar and yet while its reflected on other blogs it doesn’t appear here. So go figure. ***Anyway***
go to gravatar.com sign up, use the same email address you use for Sandra Rose and depending on where you want your photo to come up you’ll select it there to ‘add a photo’. I selected from internet after viewing avatars from other sites. You will need to know the url if using this method (copy or cut & paste it to the url line on gravatar if you select a photo from internet) Hope this helps and yours shows up here even though mine don’t