Before U.S. president Barack Obama signed his ObamaCare bill into law, a component of that bill requiring Americans to buy health insurance or face a stiff penalty was one of the main sticking points with critics.

Many of them called this mandate a tax, but Barack Obama steadfastly denied this. In interviews, Obama said the mandate was not a tax, but now that the bill is law, he’s singing a different tune.

The Obama administration now says the mandate is a tax but they are authorized to order Americans to pay it under the Constitution which gives the government authority to impose taxes “even for purposes that would exceed its powers under other provisions” of the Constitution.

The individual mandate contained in the health care bill is now being challenged in court by more than 20 states and individual organizations.

What this means is, starting in 2014, the government will force Americans to financially support the insurance industry out of your own pockets because the government says the failure of the insurance industry will affect the economy.

If the mandate is deemed Constitutional by the courts, then there will be no limit to the government’s authority to levy taxes on Americans to force you to support other industries such as the banking and auto industries.

“This is the first time that Congress has ever ordered Americans to use their own money to purchase a particular good or service,” said Senator Orrin G. Hatch, Republican of Utah.

In their lawsuit, Florida and other states say: “Congress is attempting to regulate and penalize Americans for choosing not to engage in economic activity. If Congress can do this much, there will be virtually no sphere of private decision-making beyond the reach of federal power.”

In other words: kids, Obama lied to you. But what else is new?

Source: NYT




  • KrayZKat

    “This is the first time that Congress has ever ordered Americans to use their own money to purchase a particular good or service,” said Senator Orrin G. Hatch, Republican of Utah.

    In their lawsuit, Florida and other states say: “Congress is attempting to regulate and penalize Americans for choosing not to engage in economic activity. If Congress can do this much, there will be virtually no sphere of private decision-making beyond the reach of federal power.”
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    This is just the beginning.

  • http://charactercorner.blogspot.com attorneymom

    Can someone tell Bill Clinton that he is no longer the President of the United States? Blank stare.

  • FloridaChick813

    :shrug:

    The the land of freedom is not soo free anymore huh?? :/

  • LuvMySailor

    While I do believe that Obama, along with Bush, are pawns for the North American Union

    Sandra, where are the Weapons of Mass Destruction? :coffee:

    You don’t have to answer because you don’t know

  • LuvMySailor

    No FloridaChick813

    It is not free anymore. It is all a big game. Really

    George W. Bush had the white middle class and Christian conservative masses on lock. Under him, the Patriot Act allows the government to spy on you

    Barack Obama has brought the minorities and liberals into the scheme and under him government controls health care.

    This country is slowing being destroyed by men specifically chosen because they poliarize the nation and people blindly follow them.

    The North American Union is coming. Cross reference it with Revelation 13 and watch how Jesus plays into this as well. He is coming back soon. The one world government of the AntiChrist is being formed as we speak.

  • Ebony

    Team Clintons :cheers:

  • Ebony

    I meant :cheer: :ashamed:

  • Redeemed777

    @LuvMySailor # 5

    Please school em, cause they don’t know.

    Folks don’t even know that the RDIF microchip is mentioned in the healthcare bill.

  • iyonah

    Everybody does need healthcare coverage, that is not the part that should be debated. How about we get the Insurance giants to adjust the premiums, copays and benefits coverage packets to fit the income of the people seeking coverage?

  • Redeemed777

    Get ready people, cause this world is bout to be over!

  • FloridaChick813

    Please school em, cause they don’t know.

    Actually I’m well aware of whats going on, Thanks :coffee:

  • FreeToSpeakUp

    Redeemed777 says:

    @LuvMySailor # 5

    Please school em, cause they don’t know.

    Folks don’t even know that the RDIF microchip is mentioned in the healthcare bill.

    ____________________________________

    I am well aware and do agree. Where does it state the information about the microchip because I read over the health care reform bill @ cbo dot gov and I don’t recall seeing it. Thanks #interested

  • ardentphotog

    I think everyone should be responsible for their own health care cost, within their means.

    I’m hopeful it will all work out – if it doesnt’t it won’t be the first time some sh*t’s failed with the government.

  • FreeToSpeakUp

    I don’t understand why the governemnt has to go to the extreme without taking baby steps first, for example, making all states pay state income tax, surely that will generate revenue now and for years to come. Either way they are taking our money, making money off of our money at least this way they can ram us with vaseline go it goes in easy. Geesh!

  • Redeemed777

    @FreeToSpeakUp…. check out this section of the bill

    [ Subtitle C-11 Sec. 2521— National Medical Device Registry ]

    It is called a Medical DEVICE.

  • LuvMySailor

    FreeToSpeakUp says:

    It’s a National ID Card that will be able to tell legal from illegal citizens here in America.

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/04/29/national-id-card-included_n_557721.html

  • LuvMySailor

    @FreeToSpeakUp

    It’s a National ID Card.

    You can find articles on it if you google ‘national id card’ and “immigration reform”

  • Redeemed777

    pages 1000-1007 in the healthcare bill.

    They use sneaky wordings, so that folks don’t catch on to it.

  • Zephyr1979

    @ #16

    I haven’t read the healthcare bill but I’ve been meaning to look at it. The thing with the national ID card, I can see that also turning into the microchip implant. They will say it’s easier because you won’t be able to lose it or have your identity stolen.

  • FreeToSpeakUp

    Thanks Redeemed and LuvMySailor, I am not oblivious to the government and what is being presented right before my very eyes. My pastor touches this subject ALL the time.

  • Mamacita

    My mom told me about the microchip implementation a while back and i think if anyone is dumb enough to get something like that then they deserve whatever;s coming to them :coffee:

  • 2cents

    The mark of the beast!

  • Redeemed777

    @FreeToSpeakUp

    Kudos to your pastor for keeping his people informed!

    Not too many pastors teach/preach the truth these days.

    Kudos!

  • FreeToSpeakUp

    Mamacita says:

    My mom told me about the microchip implementation a while back and i think if anyone is dumb enough to get something like that then they deserve whatever;s coming to them
    __________________________

    Unfortunately mamacita, if desperate enough people will fold. I pray to god that he gives me the strength when the time comes. If you have to have the chip to access your money, to purchase ANY goods, what do you think a lot of people will do? #nomarkofthebeastforme

  • KrayZKat

    For all we know, they might start microchipping people’s babies and not even let the parent(s) know. Just a thought.

  • FreeToSpeakUp

    Redeemed777 says:

    @FreeToSpeakUp

    Kudos to your pastor for keeping his people informed!

    Not too many pastors teach/preach the truth these days.

    Kudos!

    __________________________________

    That’s exactly why I had changed where I worship several times until I got where I am. He tells you straight up!! No ones blood left on him. I love my pastor. You will NOT sit comfortable in your sins/wrongdoings

  • FreeToSpeakUp

    KrayZKat says:

    For all we know, they might start microchipping people’s babies and not even let the parent(s) know. Just a thought
    _____________________

    You got a point there. Guess mothers would need to watch for incisions on their babies

  • KrayZKat

    FreeToSpeakUp says:

    KrayZKat says:

    For all we know, they might start microchipping people’s babies and not even let the parent(s) know. Just a thought
    _____________________

    You got a point there. Guess mothers would need to watch for incisions on their babies
    ~~~~~~~~~~
    :yes: You never know.

  • LuvMySailor

    FreeToSpeakUp

    I’m glad your pastor touches on it. Too many are worried about the almighty dollar and not current events that have religious meaning to them.

  • FreeToSpeakUp

    LuvMySailor says:

    FreeToSpeakUp

    I’m glad your pastor touches on it. Too many are worried about the almighty dollar and not current events that have religious meaning to them.

    ____________________________

    My pastor make is clear each and every sunday that he is in the business of saving souls not sending them to hell. He calls out EVERYTHING; fornication, foolish talk (i’m guilty), adultery, homosexuality, disobedience. He doesn’t care. I love that man!!

  • SanfiPolemikos

    As you all are obviously aware, this bill is a government takeover of the health care industry but more specifically it’s a corporate, special interests’ takeover. That’s the real problem. I wish Sandra could see that.

    I’d say it’s likely Obama will be a one term President which to me is good because then we can at least take the race card out of the equation, assuming the next President is not a minority of course. However we need to realize the game is fixed.

    Any Democrat/Republican party endorsed candidate for President is going to continue with the same or very slightly different policies. That’s because Corporate/Banking institutions really control the leadership of both parties. Most of you are obviously aware of that but Sandra seems to think the Republicans are the answer.

    Yes Obama is a puppet. So was Bush and Clinton. Regan stepped out of line once and was warned. Kennedy really messed up by trying to take power away from the FED and he lost his head for that.

    This is nothing new though. Most of our Presidents over the past 100+ years have been puppets of the Banking Oligarchs and they rely on our ignorance to further their agenda and ultimate goal which is World Government.

    The only thing we can do to fight back is continue to educate ourselves and others and also rebel against the machine in anyway we can through non compliance. I know everyone likes to call the Tea Party racist and a very large percentage of them are, but it didn’t start off that way. The Tea Party really started with the 9/11 Truth movement back in 06/07. It was then merged with the Ron Paul movement which unfortunately was co-opted by the Neo-Cons. Now it’s a big mess that most of it’s original participants want nothing to do with. Simple divide and conquer tactics.

    That’s the thing though. A genuine movement of the people can easily be taken over by the establishment- Associate people who oppose the Federal Reserve with Neo Nazis- Make immigration reform a racial issue to keep Black, White, Hispanic at odds with each other. This is all by design. These people are the most brilliant social engineers. Through our dumbed down education system and the brain washing media propaganda we consume, we are literally indoctrinated into their control grid. It’s all around us.

    Here’s a quote from a racist parasite that through his own arrogance and confidence in our ignorance drops a little knowledge on us…

    “It is well enough that people of the nation do not understand our banking and monetary system, for if they did, I believe there would be a revolution before tomorrow morning.”
    -Henry Ford