New Birth Missionary Baptist Church continues to defend its embattled Pastor, Bishop Eddie Long, who stands accused of using his excessive influence over young men in his ministry by coercing them into providing him with sexual favors in return for cash and lavish gifts.
The plaintiffs, Anthony Flagg, 21, and Maurice Robinson, 20, of DeKalb County, filed lawsuits against Long and his ministry on Tuesday.
In an interview with Roland Martin on the Tom Joyner Morning Show this morning, the plaintiff’s attorney B.J. Bernstein laid out her shaky case against Long.
At one point she said Long urged the boys to text him photos of themselves fully clothed. “What’s wrong with that?, Martin responded.
She alleged that one of the plaintiffs approached Bishop Long last May for counseling after his friend died, “Instead, the bishop makes a move on him.”
Bernstein also said she would subpoena Long’s phone records, e-mail and travel itinerary to bolster her case.
In other words: she has no evidence to support her case other than the dubious statements of the boys — one of whom was charged with breaking into New birth Missionary church back in July.
Listen to B.J. Bernstein on TJMS:
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Art Franklin, the head of public relations for New Birth Missionary Baptist Church called into the V-103 Frank and Wanda Morning show this morning to categorically deny the allegations against Long.
Franklin said the church found out about the allegations through the media. “We have not actually been served any copies of the lawsuits,” he told Frank Ski, who is a staunch supporter of Long and a longtime member of New Birth Missionary Baptist church.
Rumor has it that Franklin himself was caught up in a similar sex scandal when his wife divorced him, citing extramarital affairs — with other men.
Listen to Art Franklin on V-103:
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Meanwhile, industry insiders are whispering that the allegations contained in the lawsuits are just the tip of the iceberg. “This is about to be Tiger Woods part 2,” said one source who is close to the New Birth camp.
The source said Long was often seen in the company of young boys who he wined and dined in fancy restaurants.
“These boys are older now and they are no longer getting money from the church,” said the source, indicating that more lawsuits will soon follow.
New Birth took down its website last night, most likely to scrub the website of pictures or other damaging info that might hurt their case.
i’ve been trying to figure out who eddie long looks like for the longest.
him & roland martin could pass for twins.
double talking in the post sandra, but ok. when i heard he took down the website, my immediate thought was so they could clean it up. unless someone out here knows different, this bj chick doesn’t have a rep of taking bs cases and shaking down defendants.
because the allegation in itself is so damaging, you can only hope there are no facts or evidence because that is going to tear atl apart. this is going to get ugly. no good will come out of this.
I told ya’ll it’s just the beginning……
I mean IDK what the big deal is I just automatically assume most men in ATL are Gay or Bi-so these two young boys got angry becuz Long somehow cheated on them – I mean this is stupid his wife know’s he bi- or gay the church knows and ignores it so where the story???
Salvation is free, but its upkeep with cost you your life.
@Choco, they story is that people do not want to believe this. The news went in on him last night though. They showed him doing a anti-gay marriage walk, but being accused of liking men and they went to his house, the church, tried to follow him. They are on the hunt, it’s crazy.
why did they wait till now to sue?
“Rumor has it that Franklin himself was caught up in a similar sex scandal when his wife divorced him, citing extramarital affairs — with other men.”-Sandra Rose
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I’m LMAO at all of this!
They was just having a gay ol time at New Birth Missionary Baptist Church huh??
kingstonn says:
why did they wait till now to sue?
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That’s exactly what I want to know. If this has been going on since they were 16 and now they’re 20 and 21 what was the straw that broke the camel’s back and why not spill the beans years ago? And why accept all the trips, gifts, cars, tuition? This story is a mess…
A sexual coercion case without nude photos, sex texts or sex tapes does not sound like a strong case in my humble opinion. Blank stare.
and where bernice king at? she’s an avid member and on his deacon board or something, right? an elder, etc??
too too juicy of a story to not watch what happens next.
I bet Ted Haggard will be giving Bishop Long a call any minute.
I always knew he was a Queen, him and Donnie.
@attorneymom your humble opinion is not needed, we only take the opinions of those who know what they are talking about, so keep your physco babble to your self ma’am
Choco says:
I mean IDK what the big deal is I just automatically assume most men in ATL are Gay or Bi-so these two young boys got angry becuz Long somehow cheated on them
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That’s what I don’t get either. Hasn’t Sandra convinced some of us that all men in ATL are gay. LOL.
Is he for real in that picture? That alone screams gay to me
I fly above all the haters. I I fly above. I I fly above.
#9 i hear you. the case is not to say he was wrong, they consented. the objective hear is the humiliate and bring down an alleged hypocrite. that’s it. costing this man his following, his church, his marriage will be worth it.
i dont think it’s about ‘y come forward now.’ whenever “secret” relationships go on and finally end, someone is not going to willing to let go, and usually it’s the one without the power who loses control. in the end, the one with the power is fighting to maintain that power because the other party, who had no power initially, has nothing to lose and suddenly all the power. the two guys have nothing to lose. eddie long does.
Sighs too much fuckery in this story.
So many questions with not many answers.
**the objective HERE
@Anthony Flagg and Maurice Robinson
“Nigga, you gay.”
Str8Cpt says:
Is he for real in that picture? That alone screams gay to me
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AND the fact that he’s only lifting 7.8 lbs
@pointhimout…I felt like Sandra was double talking too when I first read it. Lol
– I read the lawsuits and they were disturbing (if true) but it seems like this lawyer is going all out. What lawyer in their right mind takes on a case like this, without some hard factual evidence/proof? I just don’t know. Guess we just have to wait it out and see.
@BigDap
I mean I dont mind him being exposed but I’m just like what’s the scandal his wife aint trippn and the church aint – do they want him to step down? See that the problem with religion some folks are under the wrong impression….
@POINT
“i dont think it’s about ‘y come forward now.’ whenever “secret” relationships go on and finally end, someone is not going to willing to let go, and usually it’s the one without the power who loses control. in the end, the one with the power is fighting to maintain that power because the other party, who had no power initially, has nothing to lose and suddenly all the power. the two guys have nothing to lose. eddie long does.”
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You sound like you’ve experienced this type of malarkey before…
This is just crazy. They could be flat out lying or they were sexing Long and when he stopped tricking them out they got made exposed him. Either way, we will NEVER know the truth. Some are just soooo skeptical because a man of the cloth, especially a black one, would never go against the word of good….AND be gay.
Bishop Long has a new website. Go to Character Corner to get the link.
The flood gates are gonna open up real wide with this one, I think this is just the beginning…
pointhimout says:
and where bernice king at? she’s an avid member and on his deacon board or something, right? an elder, etc??
too too juicy of a story to not watch what happens next.
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She’s covering her ass b/c she’s about to blasted out of the closet next.
@Anna
Yes Sandra has but hey girl from pics I’ve seen I’ve come to that conclusion myself
@STR8
“Is he for real in that picture? That alone screams gay to me
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AND the fact that he’s only lifting 7.8 lbs
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O_O
STOP IT NIGGA STOP IT!
@pointhimout
i dont think it’s about ‘y come forward now.’ whenever “secret” relationships go on and finally end, someone is not going to willing to let go, and usually it’s the one without the power who loses control. <~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~Exactly, they might just be mad. Sometimes where there is smoke there is FIYAH! She might not have evidence but those boys are doing this to get back at him for something. What that something is shall remain debatable because the truth will never really come out.
did he stop showering them with gifts & now they decide to sue? so many questions..
another site has a picture of one of the boys & his daughter.
The flood gates are gonna open up real wide with this one, I think this is just the beginning…
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Yeah I agree I see a trend starting
pointhimout says:
the case is not to say he was wrong, they consented.
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That’s what I’m feeling. These guys aren’t trying to hide the fact that they are gay and had some form of sexual contact with Mr. long- they’re basically stating that there was sexual contact they don’t deny that.
-I’m just trying to figure out the real reason why they’re mad and decided to say something now? Is it because they found out about each other?? They were young when it started and are in there 20’s now and don’t deny accepting $$$, cars and trips over all this time. So what happened??
td jakes. anyone? anyone? bueller? who was church guy that died of aids after years of posing as a reverent, but he had a hankering for young tight, tender bodied boys? cleveland?
OK, let’s just put it out there for what it is, because I believe the allegations – but I don’t believe that these MEN are “victims”.
Fact: If you’re old enough to go on trips outside of the country, old enough to spend the money and accept the gifts, including but not limited to car payments (not to mention the fact that your a$$ IS old enough to get a drivers license), if you’re old enough to have sex with a man who asks you after the first time and got away without being killed, but you went back for the 20th and possible 42nd time… then you’re not a victim, you’re a hoe!
They mentioned themselves that they enjoyed being lavished with gifts and being able to meet celebrities.
I don’t believe for a minute that these dudes are smart enough to BE in college, but not smart enough to realize, “Heeey, wait a minute, I’m being molested!”
They were doing what they WANTED to do and I’m not sure what precipitated this legal process, but it damn sure wasn’t because they were being “violated”.
Does that excuse Eddie Long? No, he’s DEAD a$$ wrong, but these men were old enough to just say no – but they chose YES because they wanted the “rewards” that came with giving up young a$$ to an old man!
Choco says:
@Anna
Yes Sandra has but hey girl from pics I’ve seen I’ve come to that conclusion myself
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LOL. My daughters wanted to move there after they got done w/college. I told them “you better take your own husband”.
@@36. typos and missing words. sorry.
the Reverend was a church guy or something, but he would cruise town for young boys.
Man, I just don’t care™ says:
@STR8
“Is he for real in that picture? That alone screams gay to me
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AND the fact that he’s only lifting 7.8 lbs
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O_O
STOP IT NIGGA STOP IT!
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Do you see dat shyt?! That’s a big
Ok my gravi ain’t shyt compared to #37!! Ya’ll better not say nothin else bout my gravi!
Str8Cpt says:
Is he for real in that picture? That alone screams gay to me
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@37 right. i think bj lawyer established consent from the start cuz she didn’t want to have her case spell BS. I think this is about bringing EL down. And depending on how much or how long he wants to drag this out, she can possibly start calling witnesses, i.e. the celebs these people claim to have met and possibly have pics with. she better book T.I. now cuz in the next few weeks, he will be busy with his own court ish.
If you listen to Art Franklin on V103 he said the boys been in trouble before. my question for him is… if the boys was in trouble before,why rev long giving the cars,$$$ and etc???? Its so much to this story and it just started. If more boys come forth would you say they are lying tooo???I hope the truth come out.
OHoney says:
Ok my gravi ain’t shyt compared to #37!! Ya’ll better not say nothin else bout my gravi!
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Did Sandra personally pic out our default gravi? Maybe I’m green w/envy. LOL.
SO IS THIS GOING TO BE THE GIST OF SANDRA’S BLOG FOR THE NEXT FEW DAYS?
Hell it may have been a group thing……This mess is about to get major.
What is going on in the black community…the church? We recently had a Pastor commit suicide in my city because his “lover” outed him to his wife (they had a child), girlfriend and the church (stood up during service). END OF DAYS!
OHoney says:
Ok my gravi ain’t shyt compared to #37!! Ya’ll better not say nothin else bout my gravi!
@48, again, an example of someone without power who was jilted or cut off and snapped. when you’re dealing with someone who has nothing to lose, you should be worried. this guy also had nothing to lose, but the pastor obviously did.
I likes my gravitar. LMAO! (Is Sandra Mae callin’ me angry or is she saying that I’ll eat you alive?)
Either way, I’ll take it.
ASHLAND………….
@attorneymom your humble opinion is not needed, we only take the opinions of those who know what they are talking about, so keep your physco babble to your self ma’am
ATTORNEYMOM ………….
I fly above all the haters. I I fly above. I I fly above.
HIGHLIGHT OF MY FVCKING DAY
Men of God, since the Biblical days, have always allowed their troublemakers to get them in hot doo doo, i.e. David, and man after God’s own heart, who saw Bathsheba, lusted after her, had sex with her and got her pregnant only to have her husband killed to cover up his sin.
If the allegations of Bishop Long are true, then it will come to light. Whether the boys “consented or not” does not excuse Bishop for being messy. He was in a position of power and used it to his advantage. They were children even though they were at the age of consent when all this nonsense started. Bishop is an adult man and had major influence over them. JMO.
babynewyear77 says:
What is going on in the black community…the church? We recently had a Pastor commit suicide in my city because his “lover” outed him to his wife (they had a child), girlfriend and the church (stood up during service). END OF DAYS
IM FLOOORED….. CRRRRRAZY
We should be praying about the sin in this situation not pointing fingers and given opinions, cuz our opinions don’t really count. Thank you Jesus that salvation is not based on our works. It is our faith that Jesus Christ died on the cross that saves us. It doesn’t mean that the desires of our flesh can’t get the best of us. I don’t know if this story is true or not, but I have my own sin to work out with fear and trembling to worry about someone else. I pray that IF this is true that he repents his sin and turns to Christ, cuz Christ is the only way to deliver himself from himself.
@STR8 CPT
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“Do you see dat shyt?! That’s a big
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**Pastor Eddie Long’s thoughts as he enters the gym:**
“I hope that strapping young man sees me lifting these weights today and comes to ‘spot’ me. I even wore my size ‘boys small’
mirdle*ahem* muscle shirt. TODAY’S MY DAY!”babynewyear77 says:
What is going on in the black community…the church? We recently had a Pastor commit suicide in my city because his “lover” outed him to his wife (they had a child), girlfriend and the church (stood up during service). END OF DAYS!
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WOW! Where do you live?
Calling out #56! Please report to the
@ChaCha…what city do you live?
Man, I just don’t care™ says:
@STR8 CPT
“Do you see dat shyt?! That’s a big ”
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**Pastor Eddie Long’s thoughts as he enters the gym:**
“I hope that strapping young man sees me lifting these weights today and comes to ’spot’ me. I even wore my size ‘boys small’ mirdle *ahem* muscle shirt. TODAY’S MY DAY!”
at man
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just
Don’t be surprised if one of those boys turn up missing.
kingstonn says:
i’ve been trying to figure out who eddie long looks like for the longest.
him & roland martin could pass for twins.
Kinda
He got that James Amos from Good Times forehead tho’
What is going on in the black community…the church? We recently had a Pastor commit suicide in my city because his “lover” outed him to his wife (they had a child), girlfriend and the church (stood up during service). END OF DAYS!
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That’s some bone chilling ish. A pastor committing suicide AND being outed.
@Anna
and girl even if they do take their own husbands you know them menz down there will try try and try again 
Do they??? I haven’t ever seen the appeal I’ve been and I’m not impressed at ALL! The men down there well some of them like to argue with females-
I see the zombies are on their job.
Defending evil.
“Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light, and light for darkness; that put bitter for sweet, and sweet for bitter!”
Isaiah 5:20
I only have one question…..
Sandra, where he.ll do you keep getting these photos and why did he every let these photos go public?
Ooops, guess that’s two questions
Man, I just don’t care™ says:
@STR8 CPT
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“Do you see dat shyt?! That’s a big
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**Pastor Eddie Long’s thoughts as he enters the gym:**
“I hope that strapping young man sees me lifting these weights today and comes to ’spot’ me. I even wore my size ‘boys small’ mirdle *ahem* muscle shirt. TODAY’S MY DAY!”
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“At one point she said Long urged the boys to text him photos of themselves fully clothed. “What’s wrong with that?, Martin responded.”
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I likes my gravitar. LMAO! (Is Sandra Mae callin’ me angry or is she saying that I’ll eat you alive?)
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@ cha cha
lmao. cleo mcdowell.
which goes perfectly with the soul glo he drenches his hair with.
Man, I just don’t care™ says:
“Rumor has it that Franklin himself was caught up in a similar sex scandal when his wife divorced him, citing extramarital affairs — with other men.”-Sandra Rose
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I’m LMAO at all of this!
They was just having a gay ol time at New Birth Missionary Baptist Church huh??
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NOW I’M PISSED…….I have been a gay man in ATL and I DIDN’T GET ANY OF THESE GIFTS! Hell I’m not picky Daddy Long, I would have enjoyed a combo meal from Krystals!!! WTF!!!! I have been snubbed by Sandra and her prizes and also by Daddy Long! I’m so over it!
Columbus, GA…his name was H. Randy Stephen. Our local spiritual advisers have deep pockets and roots so it never hit the media.
@Mean
That’s a married man!!
@AL-AMEERA
“Sandra, where he.ll do you keep getting these photos and why did he every let these photos go public? ”
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Sandra will find a “suspect” picture of a nigga in a HEARTBEAT! She catch the HARDEST nigga flashin all his teeth or with that broke wrist e’rrtime!
meanNsurly says:
Man, I just don’t care™ says:
“Rumor has it that Franklin himself was caught up in a similar sex scandal when his wife divorced him, citing extramarital affairs — with other men.”-Sandra Rose
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I’m LMAO at all of this!
They was just having a gay ol time at New Birth Missionary Baptist Church huh??
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NOW I’M PISSED…….I have been a gay man in ATL and I DIDN’T GET ANY OF THESE GIFTS! Hell I’m not picky Daddy Long, I would have enjoyed a combo meal from Krystals!!! WTF!!!! I have been snubbed by Sandra and her prizes and also by Daddy Long! I’m so over it!
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YOU.ARE.A.FOOL for that one
You’re is coming. I’ll
for you.
*time
@ Pastor Ed
I told u to hit dem mofos wit’ da Detroit dumbell…
# look @ chu’ now?
@ Mean….Please take your azz to the kona for life!
OHoney says:
@Mean That’s a married man!!
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See as you can see I’m not a mega chuuch (misspelled purposely) goer but in that case he would have to buy me Krystals and take me to Brusters for dessert!
The “age of consent” is just a number. And maybe these kids were vulnerable the the type of sexual predator that this guy seems to be.
Maybe they were seduced because they felt they he was giving them the love and attention that weren’t getting at home.
And if it’s true that he used the bible to support/justify this deviant behavior maybe they just wanted someone, anyone to make them feel that it was okay to be gay.
As for why now, I don’t think it matters. It sometimes takes years victims to come forward. Maybe they were afraid of being called liars or being outed to the world.
If what they are saying is true the only thing that matters is that it’s coming out now and this “alleged” hypocritical creep will get what he deserves.
Man, I just don’t care™ says:
@AL-AMEERA
“Sandra, where he.ll do you keep getting these photos and why did he ever let these photos go public? ”
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Sandra will find a “suspect” picture of a nigga in a HEARTBEAT! She catch the HARDEST nigga flashin all his teeth or with that broke wrist e’rrtime
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Well you better watch yo back cuz geez! I swear these photos don’t help any!
LOL @ Everybody. #IMSERIOUSLYPISSED
@babynewyear77- Where do you live? We might know each other
@ MEAN
hey boo, what up doe?
All this damn time I have been scratching pennies together, I could have been throwing hundreds in the air if I attended New Birf!
@ysoserious – you’re so on point. Rape victims and victims of abuse keep quiet for so long, especially if the accuser is high profile, because 9 times out of 10, the victim will be labeled a liar or somehow blamed for what happened. I’m not saying that some people don’t lie about being abused, but if they really were abused, they shouldn’t be shamed when they do press charges.
Again, in this situation, we shall see.
@babynewyear77…now I wonder how the “lover” feels? Not being funny at all but I just don’t understand people and the things they do sometimes.
Destinee says:
We should be praying about the sin in this situation not pointing fingers and given opinions, cuz our opinions don’t really count.
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Hold up, didn’t you go through the painstaking process of waiting for registration on this site to give YOUR opinion?
If you weren’t planning on giving YOUR opinion on certain topics, you wouldn’t be a registered part of the SR fam, would you?
If you didn’t feel like YOUR opinion was valid, you would have simply read what Sandra has to say and then began, or end your days.
These “selective” Christians kill me. They have an opinion about everything they WANT to have an opinion about, then when it’s about something, or someone near and dear to their hearts, suddenly they want to remind YOU not to judge.
Either walk the horse or ride it, but you can’t choose which laws in the bible you want to be governed by based upon what’s going on in your world that day.
Ease up, Shirley SEIZURE!
I didn’t read article or comments yet. Apologize if I echo anyone else. But this here:
his excessive influence over young men in his ministry by coercing them into providing him with sexual favors in return for cash and lavish gifts.
That there sounds like willingly prostitution. Not coercion.
meanNsurly says:
All this damn time I have been scratching pennies together, I could have been throwing hundreds in the air if I attended New Birf!
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In my K.Williams voice “This ish right here!”
BJ is a pretty legit attorney…reversing court decisions, having people wrongfully accused set free…This is gonna be a fight
kingstonn says:
@ cha cha
lmao. cleo mcdowell.
which goes perfectly with the soul glo he drenches his hair with
meanNsurly says:
All this damn time I have been scratching pennies together, I could have been throwing hundreds in the air if I attended New Birf!
YOU ARE STOOOOOOOOOOOOOPID
Destinee says:
@ChaCha…what city do you live?
SAN DIEGO… HOW ABOUT YOU?
@ pointhimout were you thinking about James Cleveland?
“Meanwhile, industry insiders are whispering that the allegations contained in the lawsuits are just the tip of the iceberg. “This is about to be Tiger Woods part 2,” said one source who is close to the New Birth camp.”
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Now thats the truth….
Carrington says:
Destinee says:
We should be praying about the sin in this situation not pointing fingers and given opinions, cuz our opinions don’t really count.
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Hold up, didn’t you go through the painstaking process of waiting for registration on this site to give YOUR opinion?
If you weren’t planning on giving YOUR opinion on certain topics, you wouldn’t be a registered part of the SR fam, would you?
If you didn’t feel like YOUR opinion was valid, you would have simply read what Sandra has to say and then began, or end your days.
These “selective” Christians kill me. They have an opinion about everything they WANT to have an opinion about, then when it’s about something, or someone near and dear to their hearts, suddenly they want to remind YOU not to judge.
Either walk the horse or ride it, but you can’t choose which laws in the bible you want to be governed by based upon what’s going on in your world that day.
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well said.
@KsMommy – that’s how it sounds, but I think that because these boys were young and exposed to the “good life,” they got caught up in it. They were meeting celebs and had gifts lavished on them. I mean, there are adults who would give into such temptations.
Haven’t you heard grown people say, “He/she could get it!” about a certain celeb they like or find attractive? The celeb probably could get it, and these are grown men/women who would probably have sex with a stranger they don’t know only because he is cute or has money.
Again, if true, Bishop was in a position of power, and being a grown man, he could easily manipulate a child. That’s how I see it.
@Carrington – you made some extremely valid points. I’ve noticed the “don’t judge” phrase is huge among the blog community. Go figure. People judge others everyday, i.e. how they look, what they wear, or whatever. I’m not criticizing anyone directly, but that’s what goes on with blogs. If people didn’t have an opinion, people like Sandra would be out of business.
@ mean you must be trying to kill me today. Please stop
Man, I just don’t care™ says:
@STR8 CPT
“Do you see dat shyt?! That’s a big ”
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**Pastor Eddie Long’s thoughts as he enters the gym:**
“I hope that strapping young man sees me lifting these weights today and comes to ’spot’ me. I even wore my size ‘boys small’ mirdle *ahem* muscle shirt. TODAY’S MY DAY!”
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@ KrayZKat
There are few situations where things are simply black and white. For my own reasons I’m leaning towards the boys’ side but I agree that the days to come will be revealing a whole lot of gray area and quite a bit more ugliness will probably come out on both sides of this.
I wonder how people would feel if these boys were their young child/children being molested by a fat twirling pastor.
Rumors have always surrounded this particular pastor. I don’t put anything past anyone. I will not condem the victim’s (young boys) regardless if they recieved gifts or not. Young minds are easily manipulated especially by influential people.
If this man did commit acts of sex with the boys. I need him to be held accountable for his actions.
Hey everybody! Yes I’m acting just as my name says “MEAN AND SURLY” because I ain’t got nothing. Sandra said No to me on the Gucci purse, shades, and watch and then Sir Daddy Long Stroke said No to me with the fancy trips and gifts! I’m a good lay if I may say so myself and I wouldn’t have said NOTHING! U hear me…….NOTHING!!! Ugh I’m so mad!!!! #GRRRRRRRR
This is truely sad.. I guess Black churches cant point fingers at the priest and catholics anymore! lol
I will reserve my opinion, but I will say that being
pointhimout says:
and where bernice king at?
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ohpretty1 says:
She’s covering her ass b/c she’s about to blasted out of the closet next.
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in a postion of a man of GOD and taking advantages of young people is completely wrong on so many levels.. not saying that I completely believe the young mens story.. I really hope justice is served!
Man, I just don’t care™ says:
I’m LMAO at all of this! They was just having a gay ol time at New Birth Missionary Baptist Church huh??
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They say birds of a feather flock together.
@Mean, poor lil boo boo, your pain is felt!
But just think of all the other DL preachers, rappers and athletes that are looking for a good man like you. The world is practically your oyster… Have at it!
r8Cpt says:
Is he for real in that picture? That alone screams gay to me
AND the fact that he’s only lifting 7.8 lbs
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Al-Ameera says:
@Mean, poor lil boo boo, your pain is felt!
But just think of all the other DL preachers, rappers and athletes that are looking for a good man like you. The world is practically your oyster… Have at it!
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@Al: I know….on to the next one. #DLCelebsWitAToupe
regardless of how it plays out, its a lose-lose for the pastor.
if he goes to court all his dirty laundry will be aired out even if he’s innocent. if he settles out of court he’ll be labeled as guilty automatically.
hes no better than that bathroom toe tapping senator. always shouting about being gay is wrong, but secretly likes getting in the dookie shute.
smh.
if he wants to be gay, be gay. no one cares. he just liked the power, money and lifestyle the church could offer him and didn’t want to turn it down.
KrayZKat says:
They were meeting celebs and had gifts lavished on them. I mean, there are adults who would give into such temptations.
Again, if true, Bishop was in a position of power, and being a grown man, he could easily manipulate a child. That’s how I see it.
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I see your point and I agree, BUT, these “boys” were men when this started and I could see if they were molested and they ran… you can’t justify going back CONTINUALLY when you had a choice.
And even if you did it for the cash (and I ain’t mad at THAT part) I’m mad that you want to be the victim AFTER you were lavished with gifts.
When did the molestation start? I mean if it they were 16/17? I KNOW those MEN know it was wrong to have sex with the preacher. And in turn take gifts in return. Being young doesn’t make you stupid. At 17, I sure knew what the hell i was doing, and knew when I do all those oh so bad things, that it was wrong and there would be consequences. As an adult, now I see the maturer way of being. But to say I because I was young, I “had no idea what I was doing” would be a extreme. I don’t know…..just my opinion. I’m having a hard time see them as victims. This (seems) more like vengeance. But who am I but a lonely soul on the outside of the window looking in…
@babynewyear77
I googled that guy and this just happened huh?
@ Mean, that’s the right attitude!
But on a serious note. I wish people would just be who they are and that would cut down on all this da.mn exposing. When you hide and do stuff in the dark it give people power over you.
@ysoserious – I hear ya, and I’m leaning more toward the boys’ side as well, but I’m just going to sit back and watch how things unfold.
Al-Ameera says:
Sandra, where he.ll do you keep getting these photos and why did he every let these photos go public?
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It was difficult finding photos at first because New Birth took their website down last night. So let’s just say I had help, and leave it at that.
Carrington says:
KrayZKat says:
They were meeting celebs and had gifts lavished on them. I mean, there are adults who would give into such temptations.
Again, if true, Bishop was in a position of power, and being a grown man, he could easily manipulate a child. That’s how I see it.
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I see your point and I agree, BUT, these “boys” were men when this started and I could see if they were molested and they ran… you can’t justify going back CONTINUALLY when you had a choice.
And even if you did it for the cash (and I ain’t mad at THAT part) I’m mad that you want to be the victim AFTER you were lavished with gifts.
These boi’s knew exactly what they were doing. They are sum 
looking for a quick come up. This is not to say he is wrong for what he did. If you are going to be against homosexuality then LIVE that life also. Dont preach against it and then later that day partake in it! I hate ppl like that. But I have learned the ones that are so quick to speak against Gay ppl and for everything Gay ppl stand and fight for, usually are DL themselves……ESPECIALLY IN ATLANTA, GA!!!!!!!!!!
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BJ is the one who represented Genarlow Wilson, I think she knows what she is doing, sad situation. We are told to believe that men/women of cloth are God’s messengers. This could be a blow to a beginning believer’s faith.
I told yall a long time ago this fool was a snake in the grass!
*carrying on with my day*
KsMommy says:
When did the molestation start? I mean if it they were 16/17?
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It would still be legal because the legal age for consent in the state of Georgia is 15 if I’m not mistaken.
ajonesy says:
regardless of how it plays out, its a lose-lose for the pastor.
if he goes to court all his dirty laundry will be aired out even if he’s innocent. if he settles out of court he’ll be labeled as guilty automatically.
hes no better than that bathroom toe tapping senator. always shouting about being gay is wrong, but secretly likes getting in the dookie shute.
smh.
if he wants to be gay, be gay. no one cares. he just liked the power, money and lifestyle the church could offer him and didn’t want to turn it down.
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I agree. Just be who the he.ll you are
But my thing is, there is a big market (hate to sound I’m talking about a business deal but….) for bi/homosexual churches, they want to belong somewhere too. Matter of fact a friend from college that later was married and had two kids, well I always thought she liked women but because of the family, I shook the thought off. Low and behold, 5 years after we lost contact I found HER on facebook and HER and HER GIRLFRIEND are pastors of a church in Georgia and they have a HUGE following.
@Carrington – I could be wrong, but I don’t think they were men when this started. Even though they were at the “age of consent” according to GA, to me they were still children and very impressionable. He took advantage of their youth. Who knows? Manipulation is a very powerful thing. Check out these female teachers having sex with their students. Again, the teacher is in a position of power. Many of those young boys, even though they understand what sex is about, still might feel pressured by the adult.
Again, I’m going to wait for more details, but at this juncture, this is how I understand it.
babynewyear77 says: What is going on in the black community…the church? We recently had a Pastor commit suicide in my city because his “lover” outed him to his wife (they had a child), girlfriend and the church (stood up during service). END OF DAYS!
Lawd have mercy! I’m telling you right now if I had witnessed the lover blasting him during service I would’ve been laid OUT!!!! OMG that would’ve been the best ever! You’re right; if you google him all you’ll see is that he’s dead but nothing else.
@KsMommy – I think being young can and does make you stupid. Again, if adult women/men can be dupped by con artist, why couldn’t a child be just as vulnerable? I’m not saying they didn’t know that having sex with the MARRIED Bishop was wrong or acceptig lavish gifts, BUT, again, many young people, as well as adults, have done worst for much less.
Did this nigga say “juncture?”
excuse the typos. I’m typing way too fast. Sheesh.
One song you want catch Eddie long listenin to right now is Brandy and Monica- The Boy is Mine
@Man – yes, I did say juncture. It means a particular point and time. Why is that a problem?
Sandra Rose says:
Al-Ameera says:
Sandra, where he.ll do you keep getting these photos and why did he ever let these photos go public?
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It was difficult finding photos at first because New Birth took their website down last night. So let’s just say I had help, and leave it at that.
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Well props to you, cuz good lord
Al-Ameera says:
ajonesy says:
regardless of how it plays out, its a lose-lose for the pastor.
if he goes to court all his dirty laundry will be aired out even if he’s innocent. if he settles out of court he’ll be labeled as guilty automatically.
hes no better than that bathroom toe tapping senator. always shouting about being gay is wrong, but secretly likes getting in the dookie shute.
smh.
if he wants to be gay, be gay. no one cares. he just liked the power, money and lifestyle the church could offer him and didn’t want to turn it down.
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I agree. Just be who the he.ll you are
But my thing is, there is a big market (hate to sound I’m talking about a business deal but….) for bi/homosexual churches, they want to belong somewhere too. Matter of fact a friend from college that later was married and had two kids, well I always thought she liked women but because of the family, I shook the thought off. Low and behold, 5 years after we lost contact I found HER on facebook and HER and HER GIRLFRIEND are pastors of a church in Georgia and they have a HUGE following.
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Right! I know the whole gay issue is a hot topic amongst ppl especially the black community but you can’t deny the fact there is a huge market available. Ppl can say what they want about Gay ppl but I know I love the LAWD!!! Churches shouldn’t preach hate but love instead. Isn’t that what Jesus stood for?
Thetruth32 says:
One song you want catch Eddie long listenin to right now is Brandy and Monica- The Boy is Mine
*Throws book at you!!!!
What the hell is with all these men in Atlanta?? So me going there in hopes to find a “straight man” is hopeless? I have never been to Atlanta…
@crzasallgetout…
Yes, this just happened. That’s why I am like OMG!
@gagirl08….
Right, you can’t even find how he died. It was on the news once when it first happened on one station but when you go to their site now there are only stories about his work in the community…
meanNsurly says:
Al-Ameera says:
ajonesy says:
regardless of how it plays out, its a lose-lose for the pastor.
if he goes to court all his dirty laundry will be aired out even if he’s innocent. if he settles out of court he’ll be labeled as guilty automatically.
hes no better than that bathroom toe tapping senator. always shouting about being gay is wrong, but secretly likes getting in the dookie shute.
smh.
if he wants to be gay, be gay. no one cares. he just liked the power, money and lifestyle the church could offer him and didn’t want to turn it down.
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I agree. Just be who the he.ll you are
But my thing is, there is a big market (hate to sound I’m talking about a business deal but….) for bi/homosexual churches, they want to belong somewhere too. Matter of fact a friend from college that later was married and had two kids, well I always thought she liked women but because of the family, I shook the thought off. Low and behold, 5 years after we lost contact I found HER on facebook and HER and HER GIRLFRIEND are pastors of a church in Georgia and they have a HUGE following.
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Right! I know the whole gay issue is a hot topic amongst ppl especially the black community but you can’t deny the fact there is a huge market available. Ppl can say what they want about Gay ppl but I know I love the LAWD!!! Churches shouldn’t preach hate but love instead. Isn’t that what Jesus stood for?
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exactly. i just think in the black community its not cool to be the leader of a gay church. he might have thought he wouldn’t have the wealth, notoriety or following.
and would get the **side-eye** from a standard hetero church.
but let the truth be told. i think its a hidden and under-valued market. if the right person did it (became the leader of a nationally accepted gay church), they would truly be unstoppable.
and i wouldn’t even be mad at them. lol.
The actual court docs filed by the boys are available on another site.
@KRAYZKAT
“yes, I did say juncture. It means a particular point and time. Why is that a problem?”
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LOL. I know what it means. Naw, no “problem.” I was just askin…
@Sandra ROLAND DID NOT ASK whats wrong with that, TOM said that.
BJ was on her J O B this am
I will wait to see what Eddie and his team have up their sleeve if anything
@Lady there are some straight men here but they are already taken, playas or BUMS that you nor I want
I am ready to GO and I been in the A 10 yrs.
Being young has alot to do with it. These boys looked up to that pastor as the rest of the congragation did. He is the GOD *Snickers* of his church. How many big hat wearing members would try to castrate them. Everyone says oh they knew but who knew better them or the pastor.
Believe it or not, all young or 16 year olds are not fast and corrupt. Not stupid or unknowing but Nieve to an extent. Who know if this ball-erina assured them they were in a relationship and the gift were apart of the courtship. These statements are some of the same reasons why people are less likely to press charges. Especially men who have been raped and/or beaten (the backlash). Why didn’t my mother listen when I told her? Be a parent and listen to your children is what one would tell a mother but turn around and not listen to the voice of children. Regardless of the reasoning (gifts and such). If everyone manages to force these boys to keep quite this pastor will get away with more in the future. Thats right boys please place the gift giving out there now so it will be a dead issue by the time you reach court. Your lawyer understands the defense will try to use the gift giving as an excuse for the alleged sexual deviant behavior of this grown pastor man. You have your opinion and I have mine. I guess everyone has to pick sides why not pick a side of a molester and throw stones at the youth. That seems to be the trend of todays world. I digress
@Man, it’s cool, babe.-
Another thing, who knows. There might be more boys with stories to tell, but they won’t come out because of the backlash these two young men have been receiving.
@Sandra writes, [Bernice King] can get it.
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Jesus take the trunk.
Sandra, I thought you were into the stripper type of females?? Blank stare.
Lady_L says:
What the hell is with all these men in Atlanta?? So me going there in hopes to find a “straight man” is hopeless? I have never been to Atlanta…
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Well hun I suggest you go somewhere else to find a man. DONT COME TO ATL unless u want an closeted man! Its some straight men here but they are truly hard to find! Its more gay/bi/dl men than straight men here!
Sidebar: Isn’t it disgusting when folks claim they are giving their “testimony,” but they are really letting you know about their skills in the bedroom? SMDH
attorneymom says:
Sandra, I thought you were into the stripper type of females?? Blank stare.
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@Carrington…NEVER did I say you can’t give your opinion. Everyone has one, what I am saying is instead of HELPING to bring a person down we should pray for them. Christians are not perfect and we don’t select which part of the bible we decide to live out. We are human and we live in the flesh, we are pressing towards the mark of the higher call, which is Christ Jesus. I (personally) registered for this site because of the open conversation that I welcome without a problem. What I said was not an opinion it was truth. If you reject truth than you reject Christ. Easy as that! We all fall short of the glory of God. If we were perfect people there would have been no reason for Christ to come and give his life and raise from the dead, now would there. What I am saying is that it IS HIS sin that is his issue…didn’t I? Remember! Joshua 23:15 And it shall come to pass, that as all the good things are come upon you of which Jehovah your God spake unto you, so will Jehovah bring upon you all the evil things, until he have destroyed you from off this good land which Jehovah your God hath given you.
Just to give you a bible study lesson for the day: Romanns7:15-17 For that which I do I know not: for not what I would, that do I practise; but what I hate, that I do. But if what I would not, that I do, I consent unto the law that it is good. So now it is no more I that do it, but sin which dwelleth in me.
Evil comes from within us. Sin doesn’t make you sin. The suggestion makes you sin. (Red light suggests you stop. It doesn’t make you stop). Because you know the outcome will be a ticket .Freedom doesn’t mean that you are free to do what you want to do. Freedom is doing what you should do. Restrictions help you to enjoy your freedom. Freedom comes with limitations. Freedom only can be maximizing with restrictions. Whenever you are trying to be in control that is when you are trying to be like God.
We are not Christians because we got it together, we are Christians because we need God to help us with our sinful nature. I will be praying for you too!
ajonesy, I’m with you on preaching love. That’s one of the reasons I stopped going to church. I’m a straight woman but I have a problem with sitting in a church full of straight sinners and only gay folks are being called out. It’s not right. You don’t choose to be gay and I choose not to voluntarily listen to someone spew hate.
sidenote I always thought Genarlow was a cutie pie
gagirl08 says:
ajonesy, I’m with you on preaching love. That’s one of the reasons I stopped going to church. I’m a straight woman but I have a problem with sitting in a church full of straight sinners and only gay folks are being called out. It’s not right. You don’t choose to be gay and I choose not to voluntarily listen to someone spew hate.
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exactly. i’m not gay either. but hey. i’m not down with oppressing anyone at the same time. and i have a problem with churches that speak out against gays, but they have obvious flaming queens in the pullpit.
i’ve seen them. with my own eyes. neck popping, finger snapping and all.
smh.
If YAH (JESUS) came down himself and told some of these unlearned christians that the Bishop did do this, they will hang Jesus back on the Cross and drive nails all in him all over again……it’s pointless to fight with foolish behavior, I dont know if he did do it or not….but again…folks follow man and not the savior…it’s sad though…..I pray for them all….
@ Runs
James 5:16 Therefore confess your sins to each other and pray for each other so that you may be healed. The prayer of a righteous man is powerful and effective.
Personally, I haven’t been to any church that preaches hate against homosexuals. If they do, they are out of line and aren’t living according to the Word of God that states Christians are to love one another. However, there are many churches that do preach that homosexuality is wrong according to the scriptures. I don’t see that as hate if that’s what people mean by “hate.” They are just teaching the Bible the way they see it. Shoot, many of the choir directors in churches are gay (the church I used to attend had three gay men in the choir and all of them were choic directors) and the church looked the other way. Just saying.
choic=choir
KrayZKat says:
Personally, I haven’t been to any church that preaches hate against homosexuals. If they do, they are out of line and aren’t living according to the Word of God that states Christians are to love one another. However, there are many churches that do preach that homosexuality is wrong according to the scriptures. I don’t see that as hate if that’s what people mean by “hate.” They are just teaching the Bible the way they see it. Shoot, many of the choir directors in churches are gay (the church I used to attend had three gay men in the choir and all of them were choic directors) and the church looked the other way. Just saying.
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You must read Proverbs 6:16 it’s bad enough that YAH hates the Sin but there is somethings that he said is an abonimnation in his sight, so many “christians have been rock to sleep with the bible, it’s sad to me.. everyone want to preach about love and that’s it, that is why these people are no being converted cause they feeding them all wrong, telling them they alright when they are wrong, these preachers only make people feel good to the flesh, but your soul gonna be required and that flesh man will be gone, alot of people truly hate when i come and tell them they are wrong so I tell folks just dont ask me nothing you dont want to know the answer to.. they go to church more than me and carry they bible everyday and yet i know more than some of them everywould come to grips with..
I’m curious to know if ATL has always had such a high population of HS/DL men, or if it’s just being brought to light. And why they all flock to or come from ATL.
I GUESS ALL THE NEW BIRTH CHURCHES ARE CROOKED…HELL THE ONE IN MIAMI..THE PASTOR HAD A BABY FROM FROM ONE OF THE MEMBERS AND BUDDY WAS MARRIED.
Considering I’m from Philly just curious what everyone looked like, any who I found a ton of photos on Flicker under New Birth MBC’s photo stream and they are current too.
QUESTION: Is this the same church Neffie went to crying on the show, and was so excited to meet the pastor cause he was like some sort of local celebrity?
This is sad all the way around.
I just read on AJC that there was a THIRD lawsuit filed. Smh. It’s getting Tiger Wood-ish already.
Ms. Thickness says:
I GUESS ALL THE NEW BIRTH CHURCHES ARE CROOKED…
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That’s what I was thinking. The word “New” And “Birth” doesn’t mean what it’s suppose to.. I’m glad I go to Old St. Joseph’s.(I really don’t think Old St. Joseph’s is a Church, just put it in for giggles).
Well looks like the celebrities will be next we will find out how many of them r back door intruders, cause he have fellowship with all of them, I know the family, even had the child stay the night at my home…. LAWWWD bless them all…..Eddie I know you not that stupid to do such things, to many getting caught behind this.. I’m just saying.. i was attacked last night on FB…boy i made them Daddy long followwers hot with me, but none of them could deny my word…..I know what the book say….
mzvirgo78 says:
I just read on AJC that there was a THIRD lawsuit filed. Smh. It’s getting Tiger Wood-ish already.
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i just read the same thing … lol
I’m interested in hearing what Bishop Long will say at the press conference.
But why have a press conference, just release a statement and let your attorney handle the rest.
SN New Birth Charlotte is that Bishop Long church too
**I guess I can google it and see**
SN…..THANK YOU Sandra for giving me a deafult gravi
although it looks like a deformed alien with glasses
I don’t think it’s fair to label him or any pastor that preaches against homosexuality in accordance to the Bible a homophobe cause that’s actually restricting and condemning them for freedom of religion. I’ve never heard a full sermon of his but unless he’s preaching violence or actual hate than he is not a homophobe… possible hypocrite, adulterer, and liar yes. to not preach what the Bible says on the matter would be even more wrong because then he’s twisting the bibles true intentions and words. It is possible to hate the sin but love the sinner