The fourth (and oldest) Bishop Eddie Long accuser has broken his silence about the alleged sexual abuse he suffered at the hands of "predator" Bishop Eddie Long.

Fox 5's Dale Russell flew to Colorado to speak with Jamal Parris. He met up with the former LongFellows Academy student outside a grocery store.

"You look at our eyes," Jamal Parris said. "You hear the pain in our voice. We have no reason to lie to this man."

"I loved him," Parris said. "I'm always going to have love for the things that he taught me. But how he left us hurt worse than anything I ever felt in my life."

"You finally have a father that you've always wanted for and always dreamed of," Parris said. "He would just walk away from you if you don't give him what he wants. So you end up turning into something you never thought you would be, which is now a slave to a man that you love." Source

Jamal Parris -- who is 23 -- was 20-years-old when he alleges that the bishop lavished him with gifts, cash, trips and cars in return for sex. He goes on to say the bishop used him and then dumped him. Really? That's called LIFE. People get dumped every day. You're a grown man. Deal with it!

I hope B.J. Bernstein can come up with a better "victim" than these four. I am getting tired of these weak men who made conscious decisions to sleep with a middle aged man.

it's become painfully clear that Benstein has no evidence other than the stories of those men -- none of whom are credible. I can't believe Fox 5 wasted plane fare on this story.

Shouts to Angela Watts (AWMedia Group), Donna Newman and Elle German for the links!

  • LilMissRed

    :popcorn:

  • jazzyiest

    Sandra,

    Your right in the fact that their attorney is going to have to come harder than just what their saying. Where is the evidence, the stone cold facts????

    In all honesty I do believe what this dude says is true but in a court of law that just isn't good enough.

  • jazzyiest

    BTW Good Mornig SR Fam! :coffee:

  • CFREE

    :blink:@his D*ck suckn lips

  • FloridaChick813

    :cosign: jazzyiest

    Also, if the boys werent underage, then whats the crime?? I mean, I KNOW what the bishop did wasnt RIGHT in the name of God, but as long as the boys were over 18, then a crime technically wasnt committed.. Right??

    :shrug:

  • MsGaMama_706

    Hmmmmm interesting...... :shrug:

  • FloridaChick813

    Sounds to me like this young man is just bitter :/

  • CFREE

    @JAZZ, MORNIN'!! :waves:

  • http://www.amazon.com/gotta-make-Heaven-going-thru/product-reviews/1448656729/ref=sr_1_1_cm_cr_acr_t iscream

    My God. This is sad. He is a predator not a homo. He seeked out the weak and made them feel loved just so he could take advantage of them. Smh I wonder if God will rain down on him harder then the average man who commits sin since he is suppose to be representing God.

    I pray these young boys find peace.

  • Man, I just don’t care™

    ¿¿¿ :blink: ???

    I was waiting on this nigga to say:
    "We was 'posed to get married..." :crying:

    I AIN'T EVA met a nigga willin to suck a di©k to say he had a "daddy."
    SMH.

  • aqtpie

    Why is he doing interviews?

  • jazzyiest

    @ FloridaChick

    Yeah, they say the age of consent is 16 or 17 in the ATL. So he can't be tried in a criminal case and that;s why they turned it into a civil suit. Basically, all they can get is money if he's found guilty. He wont face jail time unless someone else comes out and says he was fondling them before the age of consent.

    The funny thing is that it's starting to look like Bishop Longstroke had all his t's crossed and I's dotted. It's starting to seem that he knew exactly what age the boys needed to be before he started messing with them AND with no stone cold evidence it even seems that he knew how to keep shyt under the radar.

    Only time will tell what happens with this case.

  • my2cents

    When I first heard the stories I assumed they were just scorned lovers but listening to this man talk I actually sympathize with him... unfortunately sympathy can't win in court...

  • shannon04

    SandraRose says: He goes on to say the bishop used him and then dumped him. Really? That’s called LIFE. People get dumped every day. You’re a grown man. Deal with it!

    I hope B.J. Bernstein can come up with a better “victim” than these four. I am getting tired of these weak men who made conscious decisions to sleep with a middle aged man.

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    Sandra you're right people do get dumped everyday, but the thing that has most of us looking at eddie long with a side-eye is the fact that he is a "bishop" in a church so called leading people- this is not the type of behavior you would expect from a person that is so called leading people to live righteous. Then on top of that being a person that has lead anti-gay walks and is now accused of sleeping with these men consensual or not.......( I beleieve it was consensual though)

    They may or may not be victims in the eyes of many but many people believe that behind most lies told there is a little bit of truth. I just wonder how any of us would really feel about the situation if one of these young men were related to us?? Would that family member still be told : Deal with it?

  • robin

    just a sad situation all around.

  • shannon04

    sorry for the typo...believe

  • Anna

    FloridaChick813 says:

    jazzyiest

    Also, if the boys werent underage, then whats the crime?? I mean, I KNOW what the bishop did wasnt RIGHT in the name of God, but as long as the boys were over 18, then a crime technically wasnt committed.. Right??

    ~~~~~~~
    The crime is the Bishop is not fessing up. He has followers and preaches negative things in a open church about homeosexuality.

  • pinksghetti

    This is a double-edge sword on one hand they are all pretty much old enough to know if they want to be with a man but on the other hand a lot of young men (and women) are looking for father figures so I kinda see where he is coming from on that angle.

  • Melissa

    Sandra you is a mess for this....he got :humped: and dumped it's called life!!! lmfao

  • esquire

    Sandra, why am I not surprised by your response to the video.

    The video said that this guy was 14 when he first joined the church so I'm not exactly sure where you got that their "relationship" started at when he was 20. He even said Long manipulated them from child hood.

    You simplify the situation by simply saying the boys were dumped. That is only insult to injury. Long was a grown ass man and they were young impressionable boys who went to him for spiritual advice, desperately seeking a father figure. He became that father figure and used that role to get them to have sex. So you can't just say that they made a conscious decision to sleep with Long. Would you say that all the boys molested by Catholic priests consciously get molested? No you wouldn't. To me, this situation is no different.

    I don't think it's painfully clear that there is no evidence. The boys' testimony will be very damaging. It really hit me when I heard him say that he couldn't take enough showers to get the smell of Long off of him. As with any trial, we never see all of the evidence in the news. If this were to go to trial (I doubt it will, the church will pressure Long to settle) then I think we'd see some really damaging evidence. But from the complaint alone (as well as the pictures), Long already has a lot of stuff to answer for.

    People like you Sandra automatically jump to the conclusion that the boys are just scorned, vindictive ex lovers without actually stopping to THINK and look at the situation. It seems hard for you to take something other than a cynical or unsympathetic view on ANY subject, but I would hope you would take time to think about this. You already think all men are gay, but they are not. Aside from the fact that it is already difficult for victims of sexual assault or molestation to come forward, but imagine how much harder it would be for a straight Black man to come forward about another man molesting them.

  • http://twitter.com/dckimmie74 dcwife1622

    Is this the one that tried to kill himself and wrote the open letter on facebook? This is sad....Bishop Eddie Long needs to be stoned and his lacefront burned... :(

  • jazzyiest

    @ Man

    I was waiting on this nigga to say:
    “We was ‘posed to get married…”
    __________________________________________________________________________

    :dead:

  • MissHarlem

    They were underage at the time the acts was committed so thats the issue from what all the boys was saying. I just cant wait til everything comes out so that this can stop taking up my time because regardless something isn't right to begin with.

  • jazzyiest

    @ CFREE

    'MORNIN HUN! :waves: :waves:

  • http://www.amazon.com/gotta-make-Heaven-going-thru/product-reviews/1448656729/ref=sr_1_1_cm_cr_acr_t iscream

    The crime is that he used his power to manipulate boys while walking around like he is a man of God.

    He used church money to finance these boys lifestyle so he could do with them what he may.

    I wonder if you all would be singing the same tune if it was your son who was turned out by someone you thought was a mentor.

    It may not be a criminal crime here but his ass is morally corrupt and needs to be removed from the church. He is no better then a pimp seeking out young girls to put on the stroll.

  • http://twitter.com/dckimmie74 dcwife1622

    The part about washing the smell off my my tummy hurt.. :hurl:

  • Fabulous City

    Sooo gay men shouldn't break up too? :blink: It happens to everybody, you get dumped, it hurts and you keep it moving. hell he tam'bout?

  • M_promp2

    The cunning seduction started when they were minors. That man has sincere conviction in his voice. I believe him. You don't use the Lord's blessed house to shop for a*ss. Edddie Long is gay, clever and a pedophile. PERIOD

  • Melissa

    lmfao @ man :popcorn:

  • CFREE

    @FLO813, ITS NOT A CRIMINAL CASE AS OF NOW ITS A CIVIL LAWSUIT. THIS GUY RIGHT HERE IS CLEARLY A MAN SCORNED. THEY ARE TIGER WOODSING THE BISHOP, COMIN FROM EVERY WITCHAWAY.

  • FloridaChick813

    Exactly @jazzyiest

    He KNEW EXACTLY what he was doing.. And was probably able to pick out and decifer who the "weak ones" were. I actually do feel bad for the boys though. Its trully devastating when someone who you love breaks your heart... Or maybe its just because all the "gifts, cash, trips and cars in return for sex" ran out :shrug:

    Kinda sounds like a woman scorned!

  • shannon04

    @jazzyiest...I agree

    He probably did wait until they reached the age of consent.

  • Buddafly

    Hey everyone!

    This sounds just like my E. Lynn Harris book "In my father's House"

    It all remains to be seen.......

  • FloridaChick813

    You guys are mis-reading what I said... I UNDERSTAND WHAT HE (THE BISHOP) DID WAS NOT RIGHT.. I UNDERSTAND THAT HE SPEAKS THE WORD OF GOD AND HAS FOLLOWERS AND DRIVES A BENTLEY AND SH.IT. I GET ALL THAT. BUT TECHNICALLY, IF THE BOYS WERE "OF AGE" THEN THEY CANT CHARGE THIS MAN FOR SH.IT! ALL THEY CAN DO IS SUE HIM FOR MONEY..

    DOES THIS NOT SOUND LIKE THE MICHAEL JACKSON SAGA TO YOU ALL??? OR MAYBE I'M JUST CRAZY :shrug:

    DOES THIS NOT SOUND LIKE MOST MEN OUT HERE, RUNNING AROUND, MANIPULATING PEOPLE??

  • jazzyiest

    @ Anna

    FloridaChick813 says:

    jazzyiest

    Also, if the boys werent underage, then whats the crime?? I mean, I KNOW what the bishop did wasnt RIGHT in the name of God, but as long as the boys were over 18, then a crime technically wasnt committed.. Right??

    ~~~~~~~
    The crime is the Bishop is not fessing up. He has followers and preaches negative things in a open church about homeosexuality.
    __________________________________________________________________________

    Anna,

    I see where you're going but him not fessing up to his congregation isn't neccessarily a crime so much as it is MORALLY wrong. He owes them honesty as their spiritual leader but it's something he hasn't been giving to them from day one so I wouldn't expect him to start now.

  • kwall

    The whole thing made me :hurl:

    "No amount of showers can I take to wash his touch off of me"

    "I still smell his cologne"

    And before anyone says my comments are homophobic...I am a known friend to the gays. Love them. Planning on spending my weekend with one of my BFF who is gay, out, and proud for his whole life practically. This is not about being gay or not. It is about somebody/bodies who maybe did not have a clear idea on if they ARE gay or not...being taken advantage of and essentially turned the hail out. SMDH.

  • nevesnanna

    Not sure if the interview was a good idea, BUT, he didn't "give the interview" per se....Channel 2 news FLEW out to Colorado and basically tracked him down and followed him to a convenience store. Caught him walking out of the store when he was on his cell phone and pushed the camera in his face. Initially, he wasn't going to say anything, but somehow, they got him to start talking. I'm sure his attorney wasn't initially happy, but I don't think he said anything that would have changed his initial statement.

    I feel sorry for him. If you've never been sexually abused or know someone who was, you can't speak on it. Take it from someone who knows. Until you are in that situation and that state of mind and have to deal with the aftermath, don't speak on how someone deals with it. It's not a good place.

  • CivilEngineer

    Sounds like a smart pedophile to me...

    Morning folks!

  • kwall

    @36 is one of my only comments about Dick Long on this board and possibly my last. Yall are relentess on this topic and I will just :popcorn:

  • http://twitter.com/eastpointvet eastpointvet

    the lawyer for the boys said there will be no settlement this will go to trial and they have evidence more than the boys testimony. and this being a civil trial they probably can get away with less evidence than if it was a criminal trial.

  • aqtpie

    They may win, civil cases are a lot easier to win then criminal cases. They really don't need that much proof, all they need is a jury to believe they were victims of this sexual predator and rule in their favor. Remember the OJ Simpson case, they didn't have enough proof to file criminal charges (charge him guilty of murder) but the family won a civil suit without a blink of a juror's eye.

  • brucebaner1

    It's the power of influence that the Bishop holds. He won't be in jail but his pockets are going to be ripped off. Think of it this way, what if Monica Lewinsky said Clinton "manipulated" her and that's why she "serviced" him. She could have sued Clinton for using his power of influence. Fortunately she said she initiated so he was only wrong for adultery. Bishop Hippo seeked out these boys in HIS ministry, bought them things and took them on trips. Manipulation is the crime here. $$$$

  • Melissa

    @ dcwife

    Is this the one that tried to kill himself and wrote the open letter on facebook? This is sad….Bishop Eddie Long needs to be stoned and his lacefront burned…

    ________________________________________________________________________

    lmao @ stoned how about he needs to be :shotsfired1: real talk with a damn AK-47......

  • crzasallgetout

    Would that family member still be told : Deal with it?

    :cosign:

  • Nika405

    Eddie Longstroke has marched aganist gay rights and homosexuality, if he took advantage of these young men by telling them the bible said it's ok wouldn't that be confusing? He preached damnation to gays on Sunday and then Tuesday turned around and told a 17yr to rub lotion on his dyck cause God said it's ok. That's the problem I have with BEL. And here's a little known fact: BEL is New Birth, he doesn't have to answer to anyone. He told them to either give him total control over the church or else he was leaving and they did it. So yes the church should be sued too.

  • jazzyiest

    I feel bad for the boys either way it goes. It tripped me all the way out to find out the age of consent in ATL is either 16 or 17 b/c that's way to young to even think about trying to make that kind of decision. Facts say that our brains really aren't fully developed until about 25 anyway and that the last part of the brain to develop is the part that determines our reasoning skills.

    It's just all very sad and I do believe the guys it's just going to be hard to prove this if their is no real evidence. Yes, Jamal's accounts seem to be dead on and I have no doubt that he's telling the truth but in a court of law many times word of mouth just isn't enough.

  • Melissa

    If that was my bro.....I swear I would kill this man of cloth straight put a contract on his head :shotsfired:

  • jazzyiest

    @ aqtpie says:

    They may win, civil cases are a lot easier to win then criminal cases. They really don’t need that much proof, all they need is a jury to believe they were victims of this sexual predator and rule in their favor. Remember the OJ Simpson case, they didn’t have enough proof to file criminal charges (charge him guilty of murder) but the family won a civil suit without a blink of a juror’s eye.
    __________________________________________________________________________

    True.

  • CFREE

    M_promp2 says:

    The cunning seduction started when they were minors. That man has sincere conviction in his voice. I believe him. You don’t use the Lord’s blessed house to shop for a*ss. Edddie Long is gay, clever and a pedophile. PERIOD

    :dead:@You don’t use the Lord’s blessed house to shop for a*ss :rofl:

  • http://charactercorner.blogspot.com attorneymom

    @BishopLong get the list of your boy toys to your attorneys ASAP. #settlement

  • b-boy817

    Sandra says:
    "That’s called LIFE. People get dumped every day. You’re a grown man. Deal with it!"
    _________________________________________________________________________

    Thats what the Bishop should of told his church Sunday, and see how that would of played out....lol lol lol

  • Al-Ameera

    iscream says:

    The crime is that he used his power to manipulate boys while walking around like he is a man of God.

    He used church money to finance these boys lifestyle so he could do with them what he may.

    I wonder if you all would be singing the same tune if it was your son who was turned out by someone you thought was a mentor.

    It may not be a criminal crime here but his ass is morally corrupt and needs to be removed from the church. He is no better then a pimp seeking out young girls to put on the stroll.
    -------------------
    Exactly, I don't understand why people keep missing this point.

    Furthermore, look at the accusers, he sought out troubled young boys so that he could manipulate them. A young man from a funcyional home life would NOT have been such an easy target.

    I wonder would some of you be OK with a therapist that turned young, 18-20 year old rape victims in to prositutes just because they are considered a legal age? Yeah they are considered grown but look at the mindstate. Am I the only one that has ever taken a psych class? Geez

  • http://twitter.com/dckimmie74 dcwife1622

    Melissa says:

    @ dcwife

    Is this the one that tried to kill himself and wrote the open letter on facebook? This is sad….Bishop Eddie Long needs to be stoned and his lacefront burned…

    ________________________________________________________________________

    lmao @ stoned how about he needs to be real talk with a damn AK-47……
    --------------------------------------------
    I agree. They need to do it at New Birth and charge a fee. All proceeds need to go to the victims...

  • http://www.modelmayhem.com/honeyy1 OHoney

    I'm trying not to be judgmental about this whole situation but it's sounding kinda iffy.

  • Al-Ameera

    CivilEngineer says:

    Sounds like a smart pedophile to me…
    -----------------------------
    :cosign: he did just enough not to make it a legal crime, which in my opinion is really worst cuz it shows that he knew exactly what he was doing and it was carfully premeditated.

    Also, I ask again, if it wasn't wrong why didn't Big Eddie let it be known? Why hide it?

  • BigCityGirl

    Good Morning Folks...

    Its definitely going to be a civil trial...the major objective is to expose and embarrass the Bishop...

  • crzasallgetout

    @Al @ Civil
    :cosign: I'm not understanding how people can blame the guys if this is true. 17/18 yr olds without a stable home environment are easy targets. The Bishop knew what he was doing was wrong.

  • http://www.amazon.com/gotta-make-Heaven-going-thru/product-reviews/1448656729/ref=sr_1_1_cm_cr_acr_t iscream

    as far as their age..... :|

    Doesn't the Military have an age limit because after a certain age its harder to convince people to do what you want them to do. Who here thinks the same way they did when they were 17 or 18 years old. I'm sure decisions you made then you wouldn't make now.

    The fact that he was so well organized with his scheme just shows how sick he really is.

  • FloridaChick813

    he did just enough not to make it a legal crime, which in my opinion is really worst cuz it shows that he knew exactly what he was doing and it was carfully premeditated.

    ******************

    :cosign:

    SN: I would really like to know how is wife feels :/

  • PAHairston

    Hello All. #20 said pretty much what I wanted to say but let me add this. Eddie Long catered to troubled young black men who were searching for their identities, many of whom are gay and confused, like so many teenagers can be. He preyed on these young men while preaching to a church full of mostly black women who seem to STILL worship the ground he walks on. This man drives a #350,000 Bentley and it ain't for Christ sake! We need to stop blaming the victims. For what its worth, I believe them. (Take another good, longgggggggggggg look at that photo he sent from the bathroom, all in black: Come-get-me is written alllllll over his stupid ass, too-old-for-these-boys, ass face.) Peace.

  • MissGauzzz

    You know what...I understand wanting to get shyt off your chest. But I'm not sure this dude is doing himself or any of the other litigants any favors all across the TV with Fox5 news of all networks! I wouldn't be saying anything without the benefit of my attorney by my side! :no:

    Sad to say I don't believe they are going to get anything out of their lawsuits...all this does is shed light on Eddie Long's possible clandestine homosexual activities. He still gon' have his flock of followers...

  • http://www.amazon.com/gotta-make-Heaven-going-thru/product-reviews/1448656729/ref=sr_1_1_cm_cr_acr_t iscream

    @ Al

    We are. >>>Here<<<

  • speakinmymind

    mornin folks!
    i wish i could fast forward to the end of this mess. bj berenstein bear has pretty much guaranteed there will not be a fair and impartial jury pool for this case so despite long's vows to fight, he'll have to settle eventually lest he want to sit through a painfully long, expensive slugfest of a trial only to be found guilty and have to shell out millions in damages.

    if nothing else, maybe this will be a lesson for people to honor and grow their relationship with God, and not put any man on a pedestal or above reproach. we're all sinners and i don't think any of us would want our sins broadcast for the world to see/hear.

  • MissGauzzz

    @Flo... SN: I would really like to know how is wife feels

    For real, on some level I believe that his wife knew the 4-1-1 and chose to turn the other way because of the lifestyle she has. Ain't no way in hell you don't know your man is steppin' out. The fact that it's with another dude is a moot point, cheating is cheating. Some women just choose to look the other way. Vanessa Long ain't going nowhere!! :no:

  • ysoserious

    I'm getting tired of this pedophile and the people defending him. What has happened to empathy, putting yourself in someone else's shoes?

    I have a feeling that Daddy Long Stroke is gonna come out of this a lot better than his victims.

  • HoneyDropp

    Sounds to me like Daddy Longstroke had on that stinky deacon/preacher cologne. Unless he was mursty and put cologne on as a cover after working out in those biking shorts. :hurl:

  • MsSoloDiva

    Good Morning All...

    Well I think they know it was not a sex crime...Regardless of what he says about it is not about money... They are looking to get the pay off in a civil suit.I think they want to present the evidence so that they can show how he got them used to a lavish lifestyle with trips and cars and then manipulated them to get sex.. Then he stopped and they will use that for a settlement in a civil suit.

  • SummerSweetie

    Man, I just don't care™ says:

    ¿¿¿ ???

    I was waiting on this nigga to say:
    “We was ‘posed to get married…”

    I AIN’T EVA met a nigga willin to suck a di©k to say he had a “daddy.”
    SMH.
    _____________________________________________________________________

    :rofl: You sho' ain't lied!!!! Still sad and disgusting, though.

  • Anna

    MissGauzzz says:

    You know what…I understand wanting to get shyt off your chest. But I’m not sure this dude is doing himself or any of the other litigants any favors all across the TV with Fox5 news of all networks! I wouldn’t be saying anything without the benefit of my attorney by my side!

    Sad to say I don’t believe they are going to get anything out of their lawsuits…all this does is shed light on Eddie Long’s possible clandestine homosexual activities. He still gon’ have his flock of followers…
    ~~~~~~~~
    Isn't exposing someone the "point". It's not about jail time, the statue of limitations is over and the age of consent took over. Yes, his flock will still follow.

  • Melissa

    @ dcwife

    @ dcwife

    Is this the one that tried to kill himself and wrote the open letter on facebook? This is sad….Bishop Eddie Long needs to be stoned and his lacefront burned…

    ________________________________________________________________________

    lmao @ stoned how about he needs to be real talk with a damn AK-47……
    ——————————————–
    I agree. They need to do it at New Birth and charge a fee. All proceeds need to go to the victims…
    ______________________________________________________________________
    I will pay money to be a part of this slaughter :shotsfired: your man Daddy long stroke aka Money long knew exactly what he was doing he was very smart about it and plotted this entire thing out....he gave them bait and waited until they were of legal age and ripped their butts to shreds.....Eddie Long aka Daddy long stroke aka Money long is a damn BATTY CHEMIST :shotsfired1:

  • Str8Cpt

    Have you named this horse yet...it's dead and whimpering :coffee:

  • Man, I just don’t care™

    @SANDRA ROSE
    "Jamal Parris — who is 23 — was 20-years-old when he alleges that the bishop lavished him with gifts, cash, trips and cars in return for sex. He goes on to say the bishop used him and then dumped him. Really? That’s called LIFE. People get dumped every day. You’re a grown man. Deal with it!

    I hope B.J. Bernstein can come up with a better “victim” than these four. "
    _______________________________________________________________________________

    :yes:

    As long as cash was in his pocket and a di©k in his mouf he was content. This nigga discredits REAL victims with his malarkey, which is the sad part. Somewhere, there are REAL victims that won't be believed because of people like this using the court system to "protect" them from their own ignorance. SMH.

  • Nika405

    While ol boy is trying to wash away the smell of BEL he should be burning his lacefronts too.

  • MissGauzzz

    @ysoserious...I have a feeling that Daddy Long Stroke is gonna come out of this a lot better than his victims.

    :cosign: He most certainly is!! Trust and believe he is. This nicca ain't phased not one bit. Oh yea, he was shook in the beginning because he probably couldn't believe anyone would have the audacity to call him out. But after the initial shock this dude could care less than a damm! And another thing...his ministry gon' be bustin' at the seams with new followers! :no:

  • jazzyiest

    @ Speakinmymind

    BJ Bernstein Bear?!?!?! :rofl: You read those too?!?!?!?!? HAHAHAHAHA!
    I couldn't get enough of the Bernstein Bears...don't make me go pull my books out.

  • http://twitter.com/Proberson07 proberson07

    wow! very convincing. i wonder how the bishop or his lawyers are going to respond to this one. either-way i am going to keep those 'victims' in my prayer. it is sad because people take advantage of people like this everyday!

  • HoneyDropp

    I Loved the Berenstain Bears!

  • Phrozen1der

    Ummmm wow! Firstly, I do agree there needs to be more than circumstantial evidence for them to be able to bring down the "Biker Bishop". However, it doesn't negate the fact that he did in fact prey on these young dudes insecurities/emotional and obviously financial needs to get the booty. So simply telling them cats to get over it is kinda foul!

    They shouldn't be looking for a payday, but folks should at the very least suggest some sort of grief counseling for them to get back to their lives and saying kick rocks in the rain with no shoes on isn't it. He needs to be at the minimum removed from his position, and kept away from young boys especially the "softer" ones.. :shrugs:

  • Man, I just don’t care™

    @MISS GAUZ
    " And another thing…his ministry gon’ be bustin’ at the seams with new followers! "
    _________________________________________________________________________

    People goin be brining him their sons for more "mentorship" too. Especially after they say that nigga was payin for education and chit. It's a recession right now.

  • MissGauzzz

    @Anna...Isn’t exposing someone the “point”.

    :yes: it is the point. However, they have filed civil suits so they want to be compensated for pain and mental anguish. The young man in this video clip is PISSED. He wants to be compensated. If this was just about exposing this fool they could have done that by some other means. Personally, I hope they get everything they are seeking, I just don't believe the repercussions for Eddie Long are going to be as severe as some believe it will be.

  • Melissa

    Am going to call out the regime on this fool....smh...your man always looked suspect to me....and by watching this video I know for a fact this man did something....nothing from nothing leaves nothing.....something happened and he had the nerves to bang them out in the church really Eddie????? :hurl: I will pray for this heathen!!!!! smh

  • gagirl08

    Sandra is a messy bytch, period. Shame on you for saying that.

    For all of you hollering about they were of age and blah, blah, blah.....let's see what your reaction would be if someone touched YOUR 16 yr old child. The age of consent is still the age of a CHILD. I'm with PAHairston....I have no problem believing this mess about a so-called preacher who is swimming in material possessions. WTF is he doing with a damn private jet and $100K black diamond necklaces when so many of his congregation arrive to church on the f**king bus??????? He's a thief and a sexual predator and has a lot of y'all brainwashed.

  • ohpretty1

    And here’s a little known fact: BEL is New Birth, he doesn’t have to answer to anyone. He told them to either give him total control over the church or else he was leaving and they did it. So yes the church should be sued too.
    ----------------------------------------

    Yes, there is no governing board of this church any longer and EL doesn't hide that fact. The congregation voted to have the deacons board dismantled.

    I will say this. EL was mentored as a young preacher by Earl Paulk. For those who have time, Google this man. Everything about New Birth, its operations, and its skeletons follow the blueprint of Earl Paulk's church.

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tKKxPtP6XjQ renegadesince1985

    :dead: @Batty Chemist......

    You know you're from the West Indies when you phrases like "batty chemist" :rofl:

  • http://twitter.com/dckimmie74 dcwife1622

    Nika405 says:

    While ol boy is trying to wash away the smell of BEL he should be burning his lacefronts too.
    ___________________________

    :rofl: I can't believe he thinks those wigs are cute. I couldn't sit in his congregation with a straight face Sunday morning. I would be laughing the entire time... That mess is not even lined up... his bug eyed a$$

  • aqtpie

    I personally think they will win the lawsuit (even if it's by settling) but like MissGauzzz said,"he will have more members then ever". He'll be able to recoup that money in no time.

  • CivilEngineer

    I just wonder if his church will let him continue to "mentor" impressionable youth :/

  • http://twitter.com/eastpointvet eastpointvet

    exposing him is the point but he cant be fully exposed without this going to court. even if they just spoke out about the eddie it wouldnt have the same impact as the civil trial when they federally subpoena phone records, text messages, and emails. thats stuff they can only get in a trial

  • http://twitter.com/dckimmie74 dcwife1622

    I think he's going to settle and try to seal the records...I'm sure more boys are going to come forward. He can't silence everybody...

  • Starr

    I agree with Isc

    #thatisall

  • KandaceRaye

    i'm more upset that this boy is a real cutie.........why are all the cute ones gay????????????? Another one bits the dust!!!lmbo

  • FloridaChick813

    Of course they will @Civil

    From what I "heard" - they are very supportive of him :shrug:

  • FloridaChick813

    :waves: @ dcwife!

  • MissGauzzz

    @Civil...I just wonder if his church will let him continue to “mentor” impressionable youth

    Yes..because HE is the church! At that so-called announcement/press conference he did Sunday, he said that he along with New Birth will continue to mentor young men and young women and to help families. :no: He gon' walk light for a good while though. After all this, I don't think he'll run the risk of putting himself out there again. But then again, if he is as narcassistic as he appears, he'll repeat the pattern. :shrugs:

  • breniqua

    OOOO OOOO OOOOOOOOOO!!!!! Eddie Longstoke is goin to HELL!!!! :homoswitch: :bye:

  • HoneyDropp

    Phrozen1der :rEPORT TO dELONTE wEST POST

  • CivilEngineer

    Oh so he'll just send pictures of himself in spanx with the bible in his hand from now on??

  • Anna

    MissGauzzz says:

    @Anna…Isn’t exposing someone the “point”.

    it is the point. However, they have filed civil suits so they want to be compensated for pain and mental anguish. The young man in this video clip is PISSED. He wants to be compensated. If this was just about exposing this fool they could have done that by some other means. Personally, I hope they get everything they are seeking, I just don’t believe the repercussions for Eddie Long are going to be as severe as some believe it will be.
    ~~~~~~~
    I can't believe some ppl. How/Who would want to follow him after this?

  • Cocoabana

    Good Morn-ting everyone :waves:

    This guy reminds me of Donald Faison for some reason...

  • ATL_Reese

    All this proves to me is how BLIND and BRAINWASHED you people are to believe that bullshyt that Eddie Long is not a predator or some make excuses to justify his behavior.. This has nothing to do with the boys being gay or whatever, they were underage boys who he took advantage of.. . Joke on that lawyer if you want to, but she a top notch well respected lawyer in the field and she wouldnt set herself up for failure, watch...If it was one of your sons, im sure it will be a different response.. No matter what the "law" proves of this, even if he settles, and try to "pay off his problem" like they do, Eddie Long will still have to take this to his grave, answer to God and his "cult followers" are going right to hell with him..

  • FloridaChick813

    :lol: @Civil

    Actually :rofl:

  • Nika405

    @ohpretty1 :shocked: Wow Earl Paulk=Bishop Eddie Long. The only difference was Earl was molesting little girls and he settled with his victims.

  • Melissa

    @renegadesince1985

    @Batty Chemist……

    You know you’re from the West Indies when you phrases like “batty chemist”
    ________________________________________________________________

    You already know.....I had to call him out :rofl:

  • Applered27

    This is some sick ish here. The sad thing is I am sure this type of thing is happening in many churches in various religions. While I understand that no one is perfect, it is a disgrace for a man to sit up on a pulpit every Sunday preaching the word of God when he is turning out young men in his congregation. Heck who knows how many people he was sticking it to outside the congregation. All that living large he is doing, I hope all the cards are placed on the table.

  • Man, I just don’t care™

    @CIVIL
    "I just wonder if his church will let him continue to “mentor” impressionable youth "
    ___________________________________________________________________________

    Yup. All them "gifts" and chit. People get paid off on less than that everyday.

    SMH.

  • SuthernBelle4

    The boys do have a civil case in my opinion because What Bishop "Customer of Hair Club for Men" did was a breach of fudiciary duty because he didn't act in the best interest of the young men (i.e manipulating them, coercing them into having sex with them). @iscream I agree with you some of these people that are up here saying they are scorned lovers are getting the sideye from me, inplus when it comes down to law it don't have to make since to the general public it just gotta go with what's written in the books :shrugs:

  • http://twitter.com/dckimmie74 dcwife1622

    FloridaChick813 says:

    @ dcwife!
    _________________________

    :waves: Heyyyy Flo. I'm dreaming of Florida....for real. It's been cold in the Chi!

  • Melissa

    @breniqua

    OOOO OOOO OOOOOOOOOO!!!!! Eddie Longstoke is goin to HELL!!!!
    _________________________________________________________________
    with gasoline drawers on #realtalk :shotsfired:

    Good morning cocoabana :yahoo:

  • Thetruth32

    @ Civil :happybirthday:

  • MissGauzzz

    @Anna...I can’t believe some ppl. How/Who would want to follow him after this?

    I know!!! But watch...Those folks have definitely drank the Kool Aid when it comes to this man!!! :no:

  • Thetruth32

    Morning SR Fam!!!!

  • lexdiamonz

    Man, I just don't care™ says:

    ¿¿¿ ???

    I was waiting on this nigga to say:
    “We was ‘posed to get married…”

    I AIN’T EVA met a nigga willin to suck a di©k to say he had a “daddy.”
    SMH.

    :dead:

    i wanted to ask him did the bishop balls smell like old church hymnals and CK one

    #God forgive me

  • Daisy

    For the people who say the victims want to be paid SO WHAT IF what they are saying is TRUE?? You gotta pay to play and that is what BEL is going to do pay the piper.

    BJ supposedly didn't sign off on these interviews. Also, why do yall think their testimony is the ONLY evidence she has?

    I will continue to follow w/ my :popcorn:

  • ohpretty1

    @ Nika405 - And that sick bastard also slept with his granddaughter! WTF?! Then, here go the younger Paulks following in his footsteps. Again, his church was in denial of all their actions for YEARS before it was too much to ignore. Although it's sad, it makes for a very interesting read.

  • http://mobile.twitter.com/iamwonderchick2 LesBinLuv

    Sandra, can I just say you never cease to amaze me...I mean, the sound of consent blarring from this e-mail for what Pastor Eddie Schlong "allegedly" did is making me borderline lose my breakfast :hurl: Now dont get me wrong...I wasnt in the bed, or on the trips, or spending the coins, so I cant confirm nor deny...but what I can do is give these poor boys some sympathy and feel for their forever ruined lives...gosh...some people just amaze me! Again, I can't say whether its true or not...but I will say there's enough evidence there to raise a suspicion...and for anyone not suspicious...I question your character!

    #backintohidingIgo

  • CivilEngineer

    Thanks TT!! jiggs :lol:

  • Cocoabana

    i wanted to ask him did the bishop balls smell like old church hymnals and CK one

    #God forgive me
    -------

    :rofl:

  • http://myspace.com/thegameoncw Bird

    Jamal Parris — who is 23 — was 20-years-old when he alleges that the bishop lavished him with gifts, cash, trips and cars in return for sex.
    *****************************

    That's a lie Sandra. Why do you feel it's necessary to tell a lie to make your point? Is that an acknowledgement that the truth is to hideous to even repeat. He said he became a member of the church when he was 14. Within two weeks he had the pastor's personal cell phone number. The pastor groomed him with fatherly affection for 2 years before threatening to withhold affection if he didn't give him some at the age of 17. When the boy got too old for his pedophile taste he discarded him. Wouldn't even be the fake azz father he pretended to be for the two years of grooming.

  • Phrozen1der

    It's a sad state of affairs when a "rumored" predator is still at liberty to be with/near kids except his own. My parents would be in "protective mode" until all evidence was presented and cleared the accused 100%! These folks are being warned, now if they don't listen and he DID in fact do this you can't feel too bad for them..... :think:

  • Thetruth32

    CivilEngineer says:

    Thanks TT!! jiggs
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    Your welcome.

  • CivilEngineer

    His "church" sounds more like a "cult" from the amount of misplaced faith they have in a MAN

    Have there been any statements released by the boys' moms?

  • EssenceofU

    We've all heard that the eyes are the mirrors to the soul and Jamal's eyes showed hurt! As a mother, I felt his pain. He said it wasn't about money and I believe him. It's about being manipulated, used and cast aside by someone who gained his trust, love and respect at a very early and impressionable age! If he used these boys vulnerabilities to obtain self gratification then he is indeed a monster. If this is true, what you all fail to realize is, there are now NEW victims being courted. If these guys were cast aside, then there are new ones to replace them. That in itself is the WRONG HERE. Just my 2 cents!

  • http://twitter.com/dckimmie74 dcwife1622

    CivilEngineer says:

    His “church” sounds more like a “cult” from the amount of misplaced faith they have in a MAN
    _______________________________________

    I said the same thing. The way the crowd was roaring Sunday when he walked in...I was like wow. These folks are really lost...SMDH!

  • ELove

    @Bird (Comment #118) :clap: :yes: :clap:

  • jay Bee

    Sandra Cerdible?????? u crazy, Parish and the others are credible and consistent with their statements. Trust these guys will prevail and it would not b shocking if LONG prevail! because i believe in being redeemed..Like i said before Long would of been better of coming out with being homo and sayin the sex was consenual than to say he's DAVID vs. Goliath.. The footage will be used against him during the trial TRUSt... and if Long was playing DADDY, those kids want child support, so LONG is WRONG ..give up that money, that boy said he was his father, why he turned his back on his KIDS........ALIMONY

  • Nika405

    @Civil the Daddy of the 4th victim did an interview. He said his son called BEL daddy in front of him and that he really wasn't in his sons life, but he wants a relationship with him now.

  • ELove

    @dcwife and @civil
    DID y'all SEE the video of Eddie & His Congregation doing the "Cross It Up" I WAS wondering was I watching a Church Ceremony or a Hip-Hop Concert (Real...) This FOOL actually had A HYPE-MAN (I'm NOT Shytting You...) :yes:

  • crzasallgetout

    "I said the same thing. The way the crowd was roaring Sunday when he walked in…I was like wow. These folks are really lost"

    I know! It was like they were at a concert. They were clapping when he took off his glasses. WTH. It took forever for him to speak because they wouldn't be quiet.

  • CivilEngineer

    :cosign: @Bird...well said!

    :ashamed: I watched the clip and when the pic popped up of him with the iPhone I thought, "wonder what he would do with face-time"

  • Lady_L

    Basically Mrs. Long is married to a bi-sexual.. :coffee:
    :coffee:

    ----CivilEngineer says:

    His “church” sounds more like a “cult” from the amount of misplaced faith they have in a MAN

    ----------------------------------------------------------------
    :cosign:

  • Lady_L

    BTW GM everyone!

  • CivilEngineer

    Nika405 says:

    @Civil the Daddy of the 4th victim did an interview. He said his son called BEL daddy in front of him and that he really wasn’t in his sons life, but he wants a relationship with him now.
    --------------------------------
    It'll probably be hard for him to let someone in as a father figure after going through all that.

    I bet if they went into BEL's past he has a history of manipulating people to get what he wants...didn't Sandy do a medical minute on sociopaths?

  • Danielle84

    I watched this on GMA this morning and I was looking right into his eyes when he spoke and he seemed believable to me. I was sad just looking at him. We have to understand some people just aren't as strong as others. While some can chalk it up and move on SOME PEOPLE CAN'T!

  • HoneyDropp

    Then why did he drop the mic down at the end like he was Sexual Chocolate??

  • ohpretty1

    crzasallgetout says:

    “I said the same thing. The way the crowd was roaring Sunday when he walked in…I was like wow. These folks are really lost”

    I know! It was like they were at a concert. They were clapping when he took off his glasses. WTH. It took forever for him to speak because they wouldn’t be quiet.
    ---------------------------------------------------------

    I kid you not, when he threw that mic down and made that hard right and walked off, I said, "Well damn, give it up for Randy Watson....Randy Watson everybody!" He already had the hair.

    #ComingtoAmerica

  • Lady_L

    HoneyDropp says:

    Then why did he drop the mic down at the end like he was Sexual Chocolate??

    -----------------------------------------------------------------------
    I saw that I was like WTH..did he just drop the mic like "yeah and I'm out?!"

    :blink:

  • Val

    AND THIS IS WHY I LOVE THIS BLOG SO MUCH- SANDRA ROSE IS ON POINT ONCE AGAIN :yes:

    AND FOR THE RECORD...IM SOOO TIRED OF HEARING ABOUT THE BISHOP AND HIS LOVE TRYST.. SERIOUSLY >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>NEXT!

  • EssenceofU

    @Sandra...credibility? Bishop coming out Sunday with that rug on his head killed all his credibility for me. He said "I am not the person being portrayed in this complaint or by the media." I wanted to say, you are also not a man with hair, so what's up with the bird nest! Just sayin'

  • Val

    CFREE says:

    @his D*ck suckn lips

    ___________________________________________________________________

    I WAS THINKING THE SAME THING... :rofl:

  • SuthernBelle4

    @dcwife does that lady have a prosthetic leg in your pic
    ya'll are killing me with the sexual chocolate references, "I believe the children are our future, teach them well :whistle:

  • http://www.modelmayhem.com/honeyy1 OHoney

    LMAO he dropped the mic like Lil Wayne after he spit some killa verses :dead:

  • http://twitter.com/dckimmie74 dcwife1622

    SuthernBelle4 says:

    @dcwife does that lady have a prosthetic leg in your pic
    ya’ll are killing me with the sexual chocolate references, “I believe the children are our future, teach them well
    _________________________________

    Yes...she's a stripper. I stole that from twitter. That's Rickey Smiley avatar. I saw her dancing on W.orldstarhiphop. She was getting it :rofl:

  • http://twitter.com/dckimmie74 dcwife1622

    ELove says:

    @dcwife and @civil
    DID y’all SEE the video of Eddie & His Congregation doing the “Cross It Up” I WAS wondering was I watching a Church Ceremony or a Hip-Hop Concert (Real…) This FOOL actually had A HYPE-MAN (I’m NOT Shytting You…)
    _______________________________________

    My hubby was listening to WVON and they were talking about the Cross it Up video. I'm going to search for it...

  • SuthernBelle4

    girl bye, that is too much for me to handle :rofl:
    she can probably twerk it better than anybody in the club

  • crzasallgetout

    @ohpretty
    LOL. I was :rofl: when he dropped that mic. He was so extra with it too.

  • ysoserious

    Sandra Rose and Credibility don't belong in the same room, let alone the same sentence. :rolleyes:

  • dopedillema

    i would have killed him DEAD if he'd messed with my son..SAndra does not believe half of what she writes, I understand the need to incite meaningful but funny dialogue

  • belindamays

    sandrarose, you are a very cruel and miserable person, you never have anything good to say about anybody, you must not have children and you must not go to church, how could you say these boys were "dumped" and should just get over it. how would you like it if your child was seduced at 14 and when he was the age of consent was molested my his preacher? this man acted like these boys was fruit in a garden that he planted and picked when they were ripe. how would you like it if the money you gave to the church was spent lavishing and seducing young boys, you must not believe in God. as this bishops wife, how would you like it if your husband was not cheating on you with young women but young boys. how would you like it if this was your father and he had been cheating on your mother with young boys, see its alot more to this story then jilted lovers, and if its okay for this man to still be a bishop behind all this, then wayne gacey, or jeffery domer, should be an assistant paster as well. he picked this boys at the age when the average teenager is just coming into their sexuality, and for some this is a very impressionable and confusing time for them, so im sure to take these boys and give things and show them places they have never seen, was like flashing meat in front of a hungry animal. i think your best out would have been to just report the story and leave your ignorat oppinon to yourself, because if this was young girls then the outcome would be different, look how they did tiger woods and these were grown women that knew this man was married, but everybody acted like they were victums instead of the groupies they really are.

  • HoneyDropp

    OHoney says:

    LMAO he dropped the mic like Lil Wayne after he spit some killa verses
    **********************************************

    :rofl: "Yeah, I did that shit. I told the Mutha*uckas!"

  • HoneyDropp

    *them*

  • lakercrazy

    im sooooooooooooo over this mans dic* and were the fluk its been chit NEW POST PLEASE AUNTIE :yes:

  • Lesb-honest

    :dead: @ Pastor 'like em longstrokes' :lol:

  • ELove

    @dcwife
    Here's the "Cross It Up" video...
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pTi2wjeyyBc :nono:

  • Val

    EVEN STILL- HE SOUNDS BITTER LIKE A JILTED JEALOUS LOVER. HE DOESNT STRIKE ME AS A SON THAT WAS "LET DOWN" BY A FATHER FIGURE.. WEATHER THE BISHOP DID IT OR NOT, DOESNT MATTER IN THE COURT OF LAW.. ITS WHAT YOU CAN PROVE THAT WAS A CRIME... COME ON NOW YA'LL!!! YA'LL SEEN OJ GET AWAY WITH A DOUBLE MURDER! THE SAME COURT SYSTEM WILL TRY THIS CASE... THEY NEED TO COME BETTER THAN THAT... MAYBE THEY ACTED TOO FAST AND SHOULD'VE WAITED AROUND TO COLLECT MORE EVIDENCE.. BUT ITS NOTHING LIKE A SCORN BITCH TO RECKLESSLY MAKE MOVES TO PHUCK UP THE WHOLE PROCESS! :shrugs:

  • ohpretty1

    crzasallgetout says:

    @ohpretty
    LOL. I was :rofl: when he dropped that mic. He was so extra with it too.
    ---------------------------------

    My cousin gave me the side eye and said, I knew you wouldn't wait an entire minute. :lol:

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MwsWskgKe5E kingstonn

    lakercrazy says:

    im sooooooooooooo over this mans dic* and were the fluk its been chit NEW POST PLEASE AUNTIE
    ______________________
    :cosign:

    there's so much better news to post about.

  • Ms. Thickness

    WAKE ME UP WHEN WE GET A NEW POST

  • ohpretty1

    "look how they did tiger woods and these were grown women that knew this man was married, but everybody acted like they were victums instead of the groupies they really are."

    -------------------------------------

    Umm, I missed that one... :coffee:

  • Daisy

    I am glad most know what time it is when it comes to this case :coffee:

    BEL will continue to Pastor and lead his flock since this is not a criminal case. Plus his members still have nothing but love for him.

    This is much deeper than a lovers quarl :rolleyes:

  • bama_n_jersey

    Being in a situation like this myself..it is kind of hard to tell them to suck it up. I know how they feel. I still feel like that 15 years later. Something like this is kind of hard to forget. The only way they can truly expose him for what he is would be to take him to court. Just telling someone about it is not going to draw enough attention to the problem and possibly prevent him from doing this to another lost soul.

  • http://pearlswindow.com Carrington

    Y'all know where I stand on this - they knew what they were getting into, but this DOES convince me that, although they were willing partners; he's either genuinely hurt that his "father" betrayed him, or genuinely hurt that his "lover" cut him off.

    The one part that stands out to me is, "how can he just leave us like that?" <-- what does that mean? Is this confirming my suspicions that;

    a) Eddie Long traded them in for newer, younger, finer "models"
    b) The money train either slowed down, or came to a screeching halt
    c) They got too comfortable with Eddie and his money and started to EXPECT certain things and Eddie said, "Hold up, mf! I give when I WANT to give, now when YOU want me to give it and then realized that he had created a monster and started weaning him and his family off of the church's money.
    d) All of the above

  • http://pearlswindow.com Carrington

    I also believe him when he says that he couldn't get that "scent" of his cologne off of him.

    As a person whose been molested, to this DAY, whenever I smell the cologne my molestor wore, I sick to my stomach and can't get that smell off of me for at least a day, no matter what I do!

  • http://www.amazon.com/gotta-make-Heaven-going-thru/product-reviews/1448656729/ref=sr_1_1_cm_cr_acr_t iscream

    @ Val

    OJ was found guilty in civil court. :yes:

  • Phrozen1der

    @Carrington DITTO! :coffee:

  • Val

    @belindamays says:
    IT'S CALLED BLOGGING HUN! IF SHE SAID SOMETHING GOOD ABOUT EVERY POST.. IT'D BE A BIT BORING AND SHE WOULDNT BE THE INFAMOUS SANDRAROSE!.. DONT YA THINK? :shrugs:

  • Val

    iscream says:

    @ Val

    OJ was found guilty in civil court.

    _______________________________________________

    LIABLE... NOT GUILTY.. HE DID NO TIME FOR THOSE MURDERS.. LOOK IT UP~

  • http://www.amazon.com/gotta-make-Heaven-going-thru/product-reviews/1448656729/ref=sr_1_1_cm_cr_acr_t iscream

    @ Carrington

    Even if the answer is D all the above doesn't that still make Eddie guilty of what they are accusing him of? Doesn't that mean he seeks out young mindless boys to have sex with while preaching the opposite? Doesn't that mean he is likely still seeking out young boys? Doesn't that mean that he is still lying to his church followers?

    I think it means he is going down.... :lol:

  • ysoserious

    I don't care how old they are now, I can't believe some people can still consider them to be "willing" when these relationships started as early as 14 years old.

    It's the R. Kelly thing all over again.

  • aqtpie

    @Val
    This is a civil trial, the burden of proof in a civil trial is "51%". In a criminal trial, the defendant must (supposed to be) be proven guilty "beyond a reasonable doubt".

  • http://pearlswindow.com Carrington

    iscream says:

    @ Carrington

    Even if the answer is D all the above doesn’t that still make Eddie guilty of what they are accusing him of? Doesn’t that mean he seeks out young mindless boys to have sex with while preaching the opposite? Doesn’t that mean he is likely still seeking out young boys? Doesn’t that mean that he is still lying to his church followers?

    I think it means he is going down….
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    Believing that these boys were willing participants doesn't negate the fact that Eddie Long is dead a$$ wrong - I've never said that.

    What I said what, he had what they wanted and they had what he wanted and they were old enough, or BECAME old enough at some point to put an end to it.

    But CLEARLY, based upon this very convincing video (I've always believed that they were telling the truth) - he said, "How can he just leave us like that?" Which begs the question...

    Would ANY of this have come out, would he STILL (at 21) be a WILLING participant, would there be any allegations if EDDIE hadn't "left them like that?"...

    Marinate and get back to me!

  • bama_n_jersey

    They aren't prosecuting him in a criminal court. They ar etaking him to Civil Court. We all agree that he is not going to do any time because of the stupid consent law.

    :offtopic: I was looking up requirements for applying for a marriage license in Alabama and read that is it legal for siblings to marry in Alabama.....but they are so against same sex marriages. I couldn't believe what I was reading. Only in my State :ashamed:

  • KrayZKat

    This whole situation is sad for the boys and BEL's family. I can't imagine the embarrassment they are feelings. BEL should be ashamed of himself. The boy had to wash BEL's smell off of him. How repulsive! That sounds like a rape victim wanting to wash the evidence of the crime off their bodies.

    It's unfortunately because so many people (not here on SR), but on other blogs, are making anti-Christian statements calling them hypocrites. This is what happens when Christians don't live the life they proclaim. BEL may get away with his debachery in the court or praised by his church members, but God sees all, and He will deal with BEL accordingly. He should've known better!

  • http://www.amazon.com/gotta-make-Heaven-going-thru/product-reviews/1448656729/ref=sr_1_1_cm_cr_acr_t iscream

    @ Val

    OJ had to PAY you look it up!

    BEL case is a civil case so you are comparing apples and banana's.

  • Phrozen1der

    @iscream Mark my words if he IS "guilty" and he gets away with it this time. There will be someone who WILL come forth with more damaging evidence than what they are showing now. No one is perfect, and EVERYONE at some point slips up. There is a ram in the bush somewhere waiting to be called..... :waiting:

  • crzasallgetout

    @ aqtpie
    Yes. With civil you have preponderance of evidence vs beyond a reasonable doubt.I wonder what evidence BJ has against the bishop.

  • bama_n_jersey

    @Carrington....I think it would have still come out. That is just like when some young girls get kidnapped/molested and their mind gets programmed to the point that they start thinking they are in a relationship with their kidnapper/molester. Even though they know it is wrong they eventually get into the mindset that it is right...and even though they have means to escape they stay. It even gets to the point that the victim starts taking up for him and wanting to fight others for him. That is until they see the person go out and get another young female and stop doing things for them. Then it all comes out. I see this as the same thing just different people/sexes.

  • Krysi J

    :think:

    #JuryIzStillOut :nono:

  • http://blogtalkradio.com/theolaandkeyshow daprinceofradio

    OOOOO san hit that on the nose. HE broke up with you. GET OVER IT! now you wanna sue. He didnt wanna sue his behund when they was doing the NASTY and he was allegedly compromising his manhood (paris) in return for the materialistic things the BISHOP could provide. Why come forward now. Now, back to SAN the next time a RADIO station asks you to join them please do so. The way you talk; structure your words makes me believe you have 2 MBA'S i would love to hear the words on your blog becoming a VOICE on the radio. We know we know you have a LOT of enemies but i can totally see you EATING RADIO up! Or hell start a BLOG TALK RADIO you know you know you would have millions of listeners. Just a thought.

    DA Prince :)

  • http://www.amazon.com/gotta-make-Heaven-going-thru/product-reviews/1448656729/ref=sr_1_1_cm_cr_acr_t iscream

    @ Carrig

    Can't answer the what if's but what is... Is the Bishop would still be a liar, a perp, a man who mis used his powers/church money to get over.

    and still lying! So we can take this marinated beef and cook it in all that grease that Eddie is using on that wet ass wig. ;)

  • Val

    @ Val

    OJ had to PAY you look it up!

    ___________________________________

    yeah he had to pay.. he wrote a check while vacationing in the bahamas- lollolololoool

  • CivilEngineer

    Wrong is wrong...

    opposing homosexuality well taking part in it is wrong

    Being married with children while :hump: somebody other than your wife is wrong

    Using God's principles, money and gifts to make someone do what you want is wrong

    If all that is true then he's guilty civilly and morally

  • vipatlstyle

    ITS A WRAP!!!!!!!!!!!

    ALL THAT NEEDS TO HAPPEN IS ONE OF THE BOYS DESCRIBE WHAT THE BISHOP D*I*C*K LOOKS LIKE AND ITS A WRAP!!!!!!!

    YA DIGG

  • flyqtnva

    groomed since the AGE OF 14! He is a predator! And he did have "marriage unions or spritual unions" with some of them! I know yall read the suit stop trippin!

  • flyqtnva

    its little 14 year olds in his church right now he grooming them to...smh

  • http://www.amazon.com/gotta-make-Heaven-going-thru/product-reviews/1448656729/ref=sr_1_1_cm_cr_acr_t iscream

    No actually he couldn't afford the check and had to sell his stuff. I believe (not sure) the same stuff he tried to get back that he is sitting in jail for now....

    Not sure where you are going with this but I'm done on the OJ topic. :|

  • Val

    aqtpie says:

    @Val
    This is a civil trial, the burden of proof in a civil trial is “51%”. In a criminal trial, the defendant must (supposed to be) be proven guilty “beyond a reasonable doubt”.

    ___________________________________________________

    AH HELL- IF THIS IS JUST ABOUT MONEY- THE BISHOP GOT PLENTY OF THAT! THE CONGREGATION WILL PAY FOR IT- I FEEL SO BAD FOR THE GUYS THOUGH, BECAUSE ALTHOUGH THER BISHOPS CHURCH WILL PAY FOR THE CHARGES.. NO CRIME IS DONE.. NO HARM NO FOUL - I SUPPOSE.. BUT THESE BOYS WILL HAVE TO LIVE WITH THE STIGMA OF- "IM NOT GAY- I JUST DID GAY STUFF DOE MONEY" ...YIKES :blink:

  • Val

    "FOR MONEY" TYPO ... :/

  • CivilEngineer

    well = while

  • Val

    ITS A WRAP!!!!!!!!!!!

    ALL THAT NEEDS TO HAPPEN IS ONE OF THE BOYS DESCRIBE WHAT THE BISHOP D*I*C*K LOOKS LIKE AND ITS A WRAP!!!!!!!

    YA DIGG

    _______________________________________________________

    FUNNY- THAT REMINDED ME OF THE MICHAEL JACKSON TRIAL.. POOR LIL TINK TINK

  • bama_n_jersey

    Val says
    BUT THESE BOYS WILL HAVE TO LIVE WITH THE STIGMA OF- “IM NOT GAY- I JUST DID GAY STUFF FOR MONEY” …YIKES

    :cosign:

    flyqtnva says:
    its little 14 year olds in his church right now he grooming them to…smh

    :cosign:

  • http://myspace.com/thegameoncw Bird

    Carrington says:

    Would ANY of this have come out, would he STILL (at 21) be a WILLING participant, would there be any allegations if EDDIE hadn’t “left them like that?”…
    ***************************************

    I really don't think it was the material possessions he missed. That MIGHT have been part of it, but not most of it. He missed the love, the friendship, the relationship. Eiddie cut him off. I'd bet cash money he stopped taking his phone calls and the whole nine after that boy reached a certain age. It seems you think the guys are less credable because Eddie pays his victims. The payment doesn't make the victim feel any less dirty.

  • Val

    ysoserious says:

    I don’t care how old they are now, I can’t believe some people can still consider them to be “willing” when these relationships started as early as 14 years old.

    It’s the R. Kelly thing all over again.

    __________________________________________________________
    I HEARD THE BISHOP WAITED UNTIL THEY WERE AT THE LEGAL AGE.. WHICH WAS 17, I BELEIVE.. SO YOUR FATHER FIGURE, WHO WAS VERY KIND TO YOU AND SUPPORTED YOU LIKE A SON FOR THE FIRST COUPLE YEARS,THEN ALL OF A SUDDEN, ASKED YOU TO SLEEP WITH HIM??!! - @ 17 YEARS OLD, NOTHING TRIGGERED IN THEIR HEADS THAT THIS IS WRONG? 14...17.. THERE IS A DIFFERENCE BETWEEN A 14 YR OLD MIND AND A YOUNG ADULT 17 YEAR OLD MIND- I THINK THE BOYS ARE WITHOLDING INFORMATION THAT WOULD FIND THEM PARITALLY LIABLE- NOT SAYING BISHOP IS NOT WRONG.. ITS NOT FOR ME TO JUDGE..I JUST DONT THINK THIS IS YOUR NORMAL CHILD MOLESTING CASE.

    CHRIS STOKES IS A FITLY CHILD MOLESTER.. IMO

  • http://pearlswindow.com Carrington

    Bird says:

    It seems you think the guys are less credable because Eddie pays his victims. The payment doesn’t make the victim feel any less dirty.

    ~~~~~~~~~~~

    No, I don't think it makes your CLAIMS less credible when you're a paid "victim"... I actually believe that your claims of BEING a victim lessen when you accept payment(s).

    When that broad claimed Kobe raped her and she dropped the charges after he wrote a fat check, SHE lost credibility because she accepted money in exchange for putting the man who raped her behind bars... explain the difference in being a grown a$$ man accepting money in exchange for your dignity?

  • Run

    It's so sad that people keep saying they were not kids and they knew better. the problem is that weather it is true or not, bishop is leading folks to hell and they think they are saved which aint no way they could be, but anyway that is my whole thing, if you did sleep with him so what, but do let the world know that he is a homo if that is what he is, and help saved the people that are following this man.. even thogh they lost, but maybe he 9jamal) can save 25,000 people from possible hell, I say kudos Jamal for being brave.... stand up,lift up thy voice like a trumphet and show his people their trangression....keep standing son..

  • ysoserious

    Maybe the sexual aspect of the relationships didn't begin until the boys were "legal" but the brainwashing began when they were barely old enough to understand what was going on with their bodies or to even know how to feel about it.

    And if the boys were in love with him and were convinced that he truly loved them back...How easy do you think it would be to say no initially or especially to walk away later on?

    It's grown folks (30+) that still don't know how to get themselves out of unhealthy relationships but somehow we expect better from troubled kids? I mean really.

  • Val

    flyqtnva says:

    its little 14 year olds in his church right now he grooming them to…smh

    ___________________________________________________________________

    AND SHAME ON THEIR PARENTS FOR ALLOWINJG IT TO HAPPEN- PLEASE! IF I EVEN REMOTELY THOUGHT SOCMEONE COULD POTENTIALLY HURT MY CHILD.. WHY WOULD I ALLOW THAT MONSTER AROUND THEM.. ESPCIALLY IF IM NOT THERE TO SEE WHATS GOING ON?? IF SO, THE PARENTS ARE EVEN MORE SO GULITY FOR PIMPIBNG OUT THIER KIDS! NOW DAS NASTY!

  • Run

    @ val I agree , it's call greed and so many people are caught up in it...we will not escape that, it is written....but my child receive a gift from a boy at 16, and I took it from her took it the boys parents house and gave it back..and showed my color. and told her aint nothing for free babygirl , nothing.. everything has a price tag to it, and your is sex...she is 21 now and still live by what I have told her... and I am a proud mother..AMEN...

  • Anna

    Val says:

    ysoserious says:

    I don’t care how old they are now, I can’t believe some people can still consider them to be “willing” when these relationships started as early as 14 years old.

    It’s the R. Kelly thing all over again.

    __________________________________________________________
    I HEARD THE BISHOP WAITED UNTIL THEY WERE AT THE LEGAL AGE.. WHICH WAS 17, I BELEIVE.. SO YOUR FATHER FIGURE, WHO WAS VERY KIND TO YOU AND SUPPORTED YOU LIKE A SON FOR THE FIRST COUPLE YEARS,THEN ALL OF A SUDDEN, ASKED YOU TO SLEEP WITH HIM??!! – @ 17 YEARS OLD, NOTHING TRIGGERED IN THEIR HEADS THAT THIS IS WRONG? 14…17.. THERE IS A DIFFERENCE BETWEEN A 14 YR OLD MIND AND A YOUNG ADULT 17 YEAR OLD MIND- I THINK THE BOYS ARE WITHOLDING INFORMATION THAT WOULD FIND THEM PARITALLY LIABLE- NOT SAYING BISHOP IS NOT WRONG.. ITS NOT FOR ME TO JUDGE..I JUST DONT THINK THIS IS YOUR NORMAL CHILD MOLESTING CASE.

    ~~~
    These boys were groomed for 3 yrs. Eddie had 3 yrs. of brain washing.

  • http://www.amazon.com/gotta-make-Heaven-going-thru/product-reviews/1448656729/ref=sr_1_1_cm_cr_acr_t iscream

    @Ysoserious

    :cosign:

    And if they are responsible at 17 what is BEL then? How old was/is he? 30, 40.

    And let's say they knew what was old enough to know what was right and wrong. The fact still remains that he is lying about what went down!! He cheated on his wife (who I think knew something was going down), he misused church funds, he misrepresented himself and still is.

    A liar usually has something to hide.

  • Run

    @Iscream A liar usually has something to hide. AMEN to that

  • ysoserious

    :whistle:

    Cause teacher, there are things that I don't want to learn
    The last one I had made me cry

    So I don't want to learn to hold you, touch youuuu
    Think that you're mine

    Cause there ain't no joy
    For an uptown boy
    Who's teacher has said goodbye
    Goodbye
    Goodbye...

  • http://twitter.com/shesacoldpiece coaretained

    My understanding of the suit is that it's not child molestation. IDK why everyone is up in arms about that. It's the fact he misguided them, abused church funds and, whats the techinal term? A "breach of fiduciary duty"? THATS why they are in court. And I agree with whomever said, the lawsuit was made in an effort to out him with REAL evidence, vs the whispers of a few people. The $ will just be a bonus most likely.

    I believe this young man. To be brainwashed, fall in love and then find out he was playing you AND left you hanging for fresh meat? Devastating at LEAST.

  • intensemocha

    Jamal Parris — who is 23 — was 20-years-old when he alleges that the bishop lavished him with gifts, cash, trips and cars in return for sex. He goes on to say the bishop used him and then dumped him. Really? That’s called LIFE

    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
    EXACTLY SANDRA

    NO VICTIMS HERE, CRY ME A RIVER!!!!!!!!!!

    IMMORAL YEAH MAYBE-CRIME HELL NO!! MOVE ON FOLKS!!!

    WOMEN GET ABUSED, DUMPED, AND USED EVERYDAY BY OLDER MEN-THIS IS ONLY NEWS BECAUSE MEN NORMALLY DON'T ADMIT OPENLY TO BEING GAY OR GETTING PLAYED!!!!

  • T.Y’z Cha Cha

    nevesnanna says:

    Not sure if the interview was a good idea, BUT, he didn’t “give the interview” per se….Channel 2 news FLEW out to Colorado and basically tracked him down and followed him to a convenience store. Caught him walking out of the store when he was on his cell phone and pushed the camera in his face. Initially, he wasn’t going to say anything, but somehow, they got him to start talking. I’m sure his attorney wasn’t initially happy, but I don’t think he said anything that would have changed his initial statement.

    I feel sorry for him. If you’ve never been sexually abused or know someone who was, you can’t speak on it. Take it from someone who knows. Until you are in that situation and that state of mind and have to deal with the aftermath, don’t speak on how someone deals with it. It’s not a good place.

    I AM IN AGREEANCE 1000% :cosign:

  • Eclektic_type

    Let's keep in mind that this is not a Criminal Case....

    This is a civil case...

    for all of you who continue to suggest that there is not enough evidence... refer back to the O.J Simpson situation.

    he was found not guilty of criminal charges but guilty in the civil trial... and that is what will happen here.

    Bishop....Bishop....Bishop.... any man sending pictures like that to grown men is a fruit cake indeed.

  • intensemocha

    No, I don’t think it makes your CLAIMS less credible when you’re a paid “victim”… I actually believe that your claims of BEING a victim lessen when you accept payment(s).

    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

    THAT'S MY BIGGEST ISSUE, IT SEEMS THAT THEY ONLY HAD THE EPIPHANY WHEN THE CHECKS STOP COMING-BUT SOMEHOW THEY COULDN'T SEE THAT BEFORE?!?!?!

  • intensemocha

    A MURDER AND A JILTED LOVER IS HARDLY EQUAL IN COMPARISON

  • http://www.MyFavoriteHairCare.com Gail Hudson

    The Children are our future!!! It's our job as parents, mentors, pastors, etc. to lead and guide them in the right direction. What happens in our childhood prepares us for our adult life. These boys are brave for coming forward, this will stop the abuse from happening for so many more. It's hard for single women raising boys without male role models at home.

  • HoneyDropp

    ELove says:

    @dcwife
    Here’s the “Cross It Up” video…
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pTi2wjeyyBc
    *********************************************
    They was at the club, wasn't they??? And the part when he was like "It aint fair, it aint fair...." reminded me of Rickey Smiley'e "We Miss Robert"

  • HoneyDropp

    I was looking up requirements for applying for a marriage license in Alabama and read that is it legal for siblings to marry in Alabama…..but they are so against same sex marriages. I couldn’t believe what I was reading. Only in my State
    *******************************************
    You know we are a "red" state :rolleyes:

  • intensemocha

    FANTASIA WAS RAPED WHEN SHE WAS 14 YRS OLD AND HAD A ROUGH CHILDHOOD-BUT HOW MANY OF YOU, ESPECIALLY BLACK WOMEN SHOW HER SYMPATHY OR ALLOW THAT TO BE AN EXCUSE FOR HER BEHAVIOR TODAY

    VERY FEW OF YOU

    THIS IS A GREAT EXAMPLE OF HOW BLACK WOMEN ARE MORE SYMPATHETIC TO MEN/BOYS AND MUCH HARSHER IN JUDGEMENT ON BLACK WOMEN/GIRLS

    IF THE VICTIM WERE GIRLS/YOUNG WOMEN-YALL WOULD BE CALLING THEM HOT IN THE AZZ

    HYPOCRITES-I SWEAR

  • Run

    @ intensemocha and sandra Rose.... the whole thing is if this man is wrong for leading 25,000 peolpe to hell... should he not be exposed , people are focusing on the wrong issue it's not about heart break , so what if he got heartbroken AND ,so is half of america.. the point is people soul is on the line ... and that is all that matter at the end of the day, Jamal can cry forever it still dont change, this suppose MAN OF GOD WATCHING OVER FOLKS SOUL.

  • aqtpie

    @crzasallgetout
    I don't know but surely buying a young man a car, putting one up in an apartment, buying a few young men gifts, one bed hotel rooms on personal trips, texts, emails and pictures is enough to pursuay the jury to find that as a married bishop he was at the least guilty of something inappropriate. I still think they will win this lawsuit!!!

    @Val
    If you mean it's about the money vs. the princple, I'm not sure but there have been people who have filed and won civil suits for the principle and not the money and donated their winnings to charity. You are right, the money will be no big deal for him, he will still have people worshipping him and recoup that (not from his own personal account) in no time. SMH

    To be honest, I too found myself *side eyeing* everyone but you have to look at this from the spiritual eye, not the natural. No matter what, he was the adult that hid behind God's word, a supposed to be mentor to young men, a spiritual advisor for MANY via his church, the net and television and he made a complete mockery of God's word and his marriage vows. He can continue to be a wolf in sheeps clothing for a lot of his blind flock, he can continue to misuse and abuse his trust as a bishop, hide behind his flock and bible all he wants too as long as he knows that like we all do, he will have to answer to God. No amount of money or blind flock's support is going to help him!!!!

  • Run

    nevesnanna says:

    Not sure if the interview was a good idea, BUT, he didn’t “give the interview” per se….Channel 2 news FLEW out to Colorado and basically tracked him down and followed him to a convenience store. Caught him walking out of the store when he was on his cell phone and pushed the camera in his face. Initially, he wasn’t going to say anything, but somehow, they got him to start talking. I’m sure his attorney wasn’t initially happy, but I don’t think he said anything that would have changed his initial statement.

    I feel sorry for him. If you’ve never been sexually abused or know someone who was, you can’t speak on it. Take it from someone who knows. Until you are in that situation and that state of mind and have to deal with the aftermath, don’t speak on how someone deals with it. It’s not a good place.

    :cosign: SAY IT AGAIN.... MY POINT EXACTLY, BEEN THERE AND STILL DEALING WITH IT 4 YRS LATER...

  • intensemocha

    @ intensemocha and sandra Rose…. the whole thing is if this man is wrong for leading 25,000 peolpe to hell… should he not be exposed , people are focusing on the wrong issue it’s not about heart break , so what if he got heartbroken AND ,so is half of america.. the point is people soul is on the line … and that is all that matter at the end of the day, Jamal can cry forever it still dont change, this suppose MAN OF GOD WATCHING OVER FOLKS SOUL.

    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

    HE MAY BE GUILTY OF ADULTERY, MISAPPROPRIATING FUNDS, AND ADULTERY

    BUT THIS SHIAT HAPPENS RIGHT IN MANY OF YOUR BACKYARDS-HOW MANY 15/16 YEAR OLD GIRLS ARE BEING TRICKED OUT BY OLDER MEN IN YOUR COMMUNITY AND YOU DON'T SO MUCH AS UTTER A PEEP

    SOME OF YOU COME ON A BLOG ARGUING JUSTICE AND MORALITY BUT IN REAL LIFE KEEP YOUr LIPS SEALED TO MUCH BIGGER ATROCITIES

    I'M MERELY POINTING OUT THE HYPOCRISY-

    IF HE'S GUILTY OF THE ACCUSATIONS HE SHOULD BE HELD TO A HIGHER STANDARD-WHY NOT EXPOSE HIM TO HIS CONGREGATION??????? BUT SUE FOR MONEY ISN'T THE NORMAL REACTION FOR A MOLESTED VICTIM

    FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO EXPERIENCED IT-HAVE EITHER OF YOU SOUGHT FINANCIAL COMPENSATION????? PROBABLY NOT-SO OBVIOUSLY THIS ISN'T NORMAL VICTIM BEHAVIOR

  • Run

    @intensemocha ..... I understand your point, about the money, everybody sue for money these days and it, be about nothing, my point is Eddie long has a position to watch over folks soul...and you said why not expose him to the congreation, well this has been going on 4 a min, i know for a fact, and i pull my child from this mess, and she is they friend, if they could not address this in church everybody want 2 keep this stuff under the rug, then no, we will not partake in this foolish , and this has been known for a min. this is not new to newbirth if that is what they want them to believe, these folks knew there are other women in there that are fighting with their husbands about this cause they knew...it goes deeper that this and the reason why it all over the news is cause they have members in the church that are officials in this broadcast stuff.. in this just leaked out, other than that, it would have been swept under the rug like the rest of it, and the ones b4 them are to afraid they will get cruificd if they even breath this to any one.....

  • bama_n_jersey

    OHoney says
    You know we are a “red” state
    -----------------------------------------------------------------
    I know...but I was so mad when I read that. All I could do was shake my head

  • http://www.thesifirm.com securityone

    EVERYONE LISTEN... You ALL are missing the point here. It has nothing to do whether Eddie committed a crime (he didn't). It doesn't matter if they were 18 or 60 years old, all B.J. (the victim's attorney) has to do is prove that Eddie used CHURCH FUNDS to satisfy his sexual needs and the Government will take away the church's 501c status which means they will not be able to operate as a non-profit organization.That's why Nedw Birth is also listed on the lawsuit. And without that 501c status then you are not a church but an organization. So, when the 501c is revoked, and make no mistake abou it, it WILL be, then that's the end of New Birth, Eddie Long, and his money. He would not be able to qualify for another 501c. People do not pay tithes to organizations...only churches.

  • http://www.thesifirm.com securityone

    ***Sorry for the TYPOS...I'll proofread next time.

  • bama_n_jersey

    @intense......If it was females he was doing this too I would still feel the same way. He wuold be wrong in every sense of the word. I would still feel that he brainwashed htem, he could have possibly misused funds and he committed adultery. Male/Female these accusations would still be the same. These are my big problems with the situation. Now if they are true or not still remains to be seen. But I am not going to put the blame solely on the boys because I have been there and I know how easy it is fall into that situation. Especially if that person is making your living conditions better, providing you with money to eat, money to pay bills, material stuff that you can only dream about. So while I know they were wrong for continuing to take the money and the gifts.....It doesn't take away from the fact that BEL had a plan and a method that was so underhanded that it made him into a legal pedophile (allegedly).

  • bama_n_jersey

    @Run...That is the same thing that I have heard about it being known for a while and the congregation trying to keep it hush hush.

    @intense...So if they already knew and still stayed what other option would be presented for them to make it known and to put a wstop to it (hopefully)No I haven't sued for monetary gain and I don't know if them suing was the right course of action since they benefitted from the situation also. But it still doesn't take away what happened. And yes if I knew this was happening to someone, given what i went through, please believe that I would make some noise about it.

  • Run

    @ security says: EVERYONE LISTEN… You ALL are missing the point here. It has nothing to do whether Eddie committed a crime (he didn’t). It doesn’t matter if they were 18 or 60 years old, all B.J. (the victim’s attorney) has to do is prove that Eddie used CHURCH FUNDS to satisfy his sexual needs and the Government will take away the church’s 501c status which means they will not be able to operate as a non-profit organization.
    _________________________________________________________________________that is a point, but these people believe in Jesus Christ and they trust this man to live by the word ( even though he aint teachin nothing) but my point is that if the lord come right now and them folks sitting under a false prophet they all going to hell with him this is what the KJV bible teaches them and this what they carry.. every day......, the money , the 501 c3 , the bently, the jewerly , will not be in the kingdom. so all that material stuff is so irrevelant, this is about money well help them all cause somebody still going to hell if this is true.... sooooo sad..I see why I came out from among them...

  • Val

    aqtpie 213
    YOU'RE RIGHT! I WAS BEING A BISH THIS MORNING.. SOMETIMES I LIKE TO PLAY THE DEVILS ADVOCATE JUST TO GIVE A DIFFERENT PERSPECTIVE.. I STOPPED AFTER MY SR FAMILY STARTED POSTING PERSONAL EXPERIENCES.. WHAT HE DID IS SERIOUS- AND NOT TO BE MADE LIGHT OF.. ACTUALLY- I JUST WATCHED THE VIDEO A MINUTE AGO- I DO BELIEVE HIM AND ITS JUST SIC

  • Val

    2 MOER THINGS, AND IM DONE WITH THIS ISSUE

    FIRST: DUDE IS FINE AS HELL- SUCH A SHAME...DAYUM

    SECOND: I KNOW ITS HARD- BUT PLEASE DON'T ASSOCIATE THIS MAN WITH GOD- HE IS A GOOD PUBLIC SPEAKER- BUT I DON'T BELIEVE HE OR JAKES ARE ACTUALLY MEN OF GOD.. I JUST DON'T SEE IT! SO CRUCIFY HIM- NOT CHRISTIANITY

  • Daisy

    @Intense I believe many folks took R Kelly to task when he was caught on video with those young girls. Yes, some may still like his music (myself included) and although I did feel those girls were old enough to say yes/no the law is the law and he was old enough to know and do better. I am one who also feels for Fantasia and prays she gets the help that she needs and finds GOOD healthy love later on down the road. I dont think this is an issue of black woman taking up for black men/boys. Wrong is wrong and I pray the truth whatever that is shall come out when they go to court.

    I do not think this is only a case of so called jilted lovers. I believe there are many layers to this case, sadly.

  • Run

    @ Bam ... it's not that the congreation knew this u have to know somebody that was in the program or in the highter ofice to hear this stuff .. and that is what has happen. some may know but they choose to overlook this allegiations, because they could never get close to eddie long, 9x of 10 those people jumping have never even shook that man hand, I remember when I was there, I saw them throwing money on stage, I politely got up shakingMydamnhead, and proceeded to the door, an usher stop me and said you cant leave yet. i told him if you dont move out my way sir, i will call the police on you, so there was a police standing around just not in uniform, and he said no one can leave til he finishes, I said sir i am going out this door, now we can do it this way or the other way but i got to go, he ask what is the problem young lady I said...SOMEBODY GOT TO GO TO HELL AND IT AINT ME.... SO he moved and let me out... I said to him run, your soul is on the line...

  • pointhimout

    right, he was dumped. it happens everyday. even still, the good ole bishop's the one who is humiliated. if god is so against homosexuality and the bishop has a strong stance against it, surely his flock will not keep following his teachings. or will they?

  • Run

    @ pointhimout says:

    right, he was dumped. it happens everyday. even still, the good ole bishop’s the one who is humiliated. if god is so against homosexuality and the bishop has a strong stance against it, surely his flock will not keep following his teachings. or will they?

    __________________________________________________________
    :party:
    LMBOOOOO what ... they worship that man...I just wanna call wsbtv my self and just tell them sooooo much stuff, but i will wait....

  • Anna

    Run says:

    @ Bam … it’s not that the congreation knew this u have to know somebody that was in the program or in the highter ofice to hear this stuff .. and that is what has happen. some may know but they choose to overlook this allegiations, because they could never get close to eddie long, 9x of 10 those people jumping have never even shook that man hand, I remember when I was there, I saw them throwing money on stage, I politely got up shakingMydamnhead, and proceeded to the door, an usher stop me and said you cant leave yet. i told him if you dont move out my way sir, i will call the police on you, so there was a police standing around just not in uniform, and he said no one can leave til he finishes, I said sir i am going out this door, now we can do it this way or the other way but i got to go, he ask what is the problem young lady I said…SOMEBODY GOT TO GO TO HELL AND IT AINT ME…. SO he moved and let me out… I said to him run, your soul is on the line…
    ~~~~~
    Good for you for not feeling intimidated. I know someone who briefly studied Scientology, same experience, wanted to leave but there were "Gate/Door Keepers. They want to you will your home and earnings to them in the event of your death. I refuse to help any Church gain off of my death. LOL. Unfortunately there are too many ppl who look at the man saying the mess. as their GOD. I can't believe how much faith ppl put in the one giving the Sermon. Eddie Long is not even a Pastor and has ppl treating him like he parted "The Red Sea". SMH. My Bother-In-Law was a Pastor. He could turn a furneral into Church. He just had that gift, he had a modest family Church for decades, the Church is still there, just w/out him. RIP. Brother-In-Law.

  • http://mylifeinthesun782.blogspot.com Ms. Everything

    Late reading the comments and had to stop @Esquires 1st comment cause it brought back a memory I've tried so hard to forget. I got raped back in hs by someone i knew and I remember going home and damn near scalding myself in the shower trying to get every remnant of him off me. Even after I was clean I just kept scrubbing cause I felt like I was just covered in filth. And like this story most of the few people I confided in said it was my fault for putting myself in that position, because I wasn't bruised and battered that I must've wanted it. It didn't matter that he had me pinned down so I couldn't struggle i couldn't fight so he didn't have to beat me into submission, he was a big guy and I'm very tiny. Back then I wasn't even a hundred pounds sopping wet and I was so caught off guard because I knew him, trusted him, he was friends with my bf at the time so I was in a state of shock yet over a decade later I still kick myself for not standinding up for myself and pressing charges but everyone said I wouldn't win. We need to get out of that mindset of punishing, ridiculing and attacking the victims period.

  • http://mylifeinthesun782.blogspot.com Ms. Everything

    Finished reading the comments and these boys had to sue otherwise their statements would've been met with even more skepticism and doubt. Every lawsuit is not about the money. When celebs sue these papers, hospitals and all that, they don't need the money, most don't care about the money its about setting a legal precedent so something like this does not happen again. But I'M to answer your question, if I could sue the man who molested me as a child yet was able to avoid charges because of lack of evidence (my word against his and his family even though he'd done this many times before) YES I would especially if I thought it would save the next little girl. If I could turn back time and press charges against my rapist, you're damn right I would and its the mindset that you are expressing here that led my so called friends to blame me. One even told me I just wanted attention, sound familiar? If I could've sued or pressed charges against the group of boys freshman year who "saved" me from getting jumped by a group of girls and then forced me to repay them by holding me down, physically forcing my jaws open and attacking me and saying I owed them, I would. But I was so emotionally scarred from dealing with the police after being molested at 8 and being treated like a liar and a fast ass slut (AT 8!!!) then I would've gone to them then, I had the bruised face and body to show for it but I didn't because so many in our society would rather dissect the victims, treat them like liars from the minute they go public, look for reasons to say they caused it, they deserved it, they wanted it, they're just scorned lovers, anything to keep from placing blame where that blame is due. After I was raped, the ONE person who was supposedly in my corner blackmailed me, threatened me, called me every slut, whore, trash in the book because I dealt with the pain from the rape by drinking too much and I gave in because I was broken, hurt, scared and he was the one with the power so I gave in to what he wanted. Cried through the whole 5 minutes yet had I gone to the authorities, our parents, or hell anyone who do you think they would've blamed??? Exactly so I stayed quiet... again and held onto that pain to this day. Had to see him daily, watched him get praised because he was the star everything in school, at home and where we lived. I still see him sometimes and it makes me physically sick so I know what these boys felt and what they're feeling yet so many on this board prefer to say they knew what they were getting into. I was no different than them... I was a young person from a fatherless home, had major issues at home, I was lost and people continued to take advantage of that because they KNEW that I had no one willing to fight for me and that on my own there was nothing I could do to bring them down. That's what he did to them and then to top it off he did it in Gods name with the church's finances. No excuse whatsoever whether they're male or female... I'm just thankful that whatever happened to give them the strength to band together and come forward and fight occured because myself and so many other victims couldn't do it. Now they can move on and live their lives the right way and stronger so this doesn't happen to them again. I had to learn the hard way and still never fully overcame choosing to live my life on the defensive ready to fvck somebody up if they ever touch me the wrong way again and losing out on many things young people do because of all the things I won't do to avoid anyone ever being in the position to find me vulnerable again and I'm not the only one. These boys need support not some of the bullshit people are coming out saying about them and their motives

  • bama_n_jersey

    @Ms. Everything

    :cosign: everything you said. It is always easy for people to say one thing until they are put in that situation. Things like this happen all the time

  • VAChick

    Man, I just don't care™ says:

    I was waiting on this nigga to say:
    “We was ‘posed to get married…”

    I AIN’T EVA met a nigga willin to suck a di©k to say he had a “daddy.”
    SMH.

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    Okay?!

  • aqtpie

    Val says:
    YOU’RE RIGHT! I WAS BEING A BISH THIS MORNING.. SOMETIMES I LIKE TO PLAY THE DEVILS ADVOCATE JUST TO GIVE A DIFFERENT PERSPECTIVE..
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    @ Val
    There is nothing wrong with that, there was no name calling, it's how some of us learn and it keeps lawyers winning and helping some of their clients get closure!!