Just a few days after U.S. President Barack Obama placed a phone call to Philadelphia Eagles’ owner Jeffrey Lurie praising Michael Vick, the Eagles suffered a stunning loss to the Minnesota Vikings.
Rookie 3rd string quarterback Joe Webb led the Minnesota Vikings to a shocking 24-14 upset win over the hapless Eagles who were still soaring high after that come-from-behind win over the New York Giants last week.
In the first Tuesday night NFL game since 1946, Eagles quarterback Michael Vick fell flat on his face as he was sacked six times by the Vikings’ marauding defense.
Subbing for the injured Brett Favre, Webb threw for 195 yards and ran for a touchdown against the Eagles (10-5).
Vick threw for 263 yards and ran for two touchdowns last night, but it wasn’t enough as the Vikings (6-9) rolled over him.
Vikings RB Adrian Peterson ran for 118 yards and a TD as the Vikings snapped the Eagles’ three-game winning streak.
Next up for the Eagles is the Dallas Cowboys on Sunday, Jan. 2. If Obama calls again, maybe Lurie shouldn’t answer the phone.
#teamVick
#teamObama
Morning
Aww man I knew this post was coming. Sandra always finds a way to make everythinng President Obama’s fault
#TeamPresidentObama
Hey Daisy!
I don’t think Vick or CB will ever been redeemed in SR eyes…
I just want to hump Auntie Sandy leg until she moves on from her selective rock throwing…
Wow President Obama made the eagles lose huh?
Okay?
It’s a conspiracy!!!
Oh man, this games was just as disappointing as the falcons losing to the saints the other nite
game
Danielle says:
Aww man I knew this post was coming. Sandra always finds a way to make everythinng President Obama’s fault
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Yep, I drew my eyebrows in and now the left is darker than the right… some kind of way thats Presidents fault too…
Gotta love her tho b/c when she puts ppl on the naughty Sandra list you never get off it.
Morning y’all.
I will refrain from commenting on this nonsense
<—anti-haterade
Vick just look beat up…
I hope he doesn’t play next week… there locked in at #3 Win or lose. so effectively they get 2 easy weeks…next week they need to give Vick the day of vs the Cowboys…and then have him fresh vs the Rams in the 1st round.
Dawn Says:
Gotta love her tho b/c when she puts ppl on the naughty Sandra list you never get off it.
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You can get off it …with the right price…ask C-error.
#teamMikeVick#
I knew Vick was hurt after that first run
@ Ace yeah they need to rest him let Kolb earn his money. Then let Vick Kill the Rams
The Eagles looked terrible last night
but they’ll regroup & get it together..We’re still the NFC East champs 
Vick just look beat up…
I hope he doesn’t play next week… there locked in at #3 Win or lose. so effectively they get 2 easy weeks…next week they need to give Vick the day of vs the Cowboys…and then have him fresh vs the Rams in the 1st round.
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He does look tired. That nucca been playing his butt off.
YSO whats up Ma how was your evening?
So ain’t nobody gonna say nothing about the Eagles wearing wings on their helmets? Wings? On their heads? Don’t even get me started on the Vikings! The illuminati is hiding right in front of your face!!!………
I think this unequivocally ties Obama to it too…..
Okay Sandy hear is another straw to grasp at. Could it be that the lineman didn’t do a good job of stopping the sacks?
Morning all
Good morning SR Fam!!
No she didn’t blame this on Obama. CTFU!! I’m through. LOL!!
Wings are now affiliated with the Illuminati? Get out!!! What’s next? Triangles….squares….octagons….feathers…. Hide your children, hide your wives, hide your husbands!! The Illuminati is taking sh!t over….
And why is this a post?????
Oh yeah, Obama spoke to this nigga or the owner or whatever.
Vick is an “EXCITING” Quaterback but no better than the 10th best QB in the league…
1. P. Manning
2. Brady
3. Breeze
4. Rothlissburger
5. Rodgers
6. Rivers
7. Ryan
8. Cassel
9. E. Manning
10.Vick
AWESOME ARSENAL says:
So ain’t nobody gonna say nothing about the Eagles wearing wings on their helmets? Wings? On their heads? Don’t even get me started on the Vikings! The illuminati is hiding right in front of your face!!!………
I think this unequivocally ties Obama to it too…..
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The Football is in the shape of the All Seeing Eye!
Illuminati Is errwhere
@Man
you didn’t just put vick BELOW Eli…
ALBoy says:
The Football is in the shape of the All Seeing Eye!
Illuminati Is errwhere
December 29, 2010 at 9:51 am
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You’re in on this too?
Hello ALboy.
My evening was passable. Yours?
@ACE
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Eli has some solid numbers and has never really had a stellar receiving crew. The brief time frame he had Plaxico, they win the Super Bowl. Even with bad run support and terrible recievers he puts up good numbers.
You are right, I DID mess up tho because I forgot to put Tony Romo over him too. So Vick is no better than 11th.
Cmon, the Eagles were bound to take a loss sooner or later. Not a surprise, just happens to be coincidence with the Obama call. Oops, maybe it wasnt! LOL. Dont yall know about the 3 cycle theory? Win 3 games, next game will be a loss. Happened here. Eagles won their previous 3 games then lost last nite to the Vikings. Before that they lost to the Bears. Fits the theory perfectly. Recall the ’72 Dolphins were the only team that went 17-0 back in the day.
@Ace
Didn’t you know? That is Man’s water-headed adopted son.
yvonne79 says:
Wings are now affiliated with the Illuminati? Get out!!! What’s next? Triangles….squares….octagons….feathers…. Hide your children, hide your wives, hide your husbands!! The Illuminati is taking sh!t over….
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Triangles are they represet the Eye in the Pyramid
And they the check pattern in there homes and building Squares
AWESOME ARSENAL says:
So ain’t nobody gonna say nothing about the Eagles wearing wings on their helmets? Wings? On their heads? Don’t even get me started on the Vikings! The illuminati is hiding right in front of your face!!!………
I think this unequivocally ties Obama to it too…..
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@YSO
Yes, Peyton Manning is my only child. I raised that boy RIGHT. He makes me proud.
i need to know the criteria for this list of yours…
if its just 2010 then Vick is top 5
is it’s career which i’m assuming as you used career “accomplishments” to reason for Eli and Romo
then Vick should be definitely top 7…as you have to include his work in ATL. which ROMO CASSEL RYAN AND RODGERS CANT TOUCH
@ Yvonne I did a little research on it and I watched those Illuminati DVDs I dont believe evrything they say about it but i do believe its real
I hate
Peyton Manningwith a passion….hope his horse headed, Mr. Brain lookin Ass gets hit by a car while crossing the street to wait for his short bus.
dang new post and its dam footbal
@ace dam tell them how u really feel about this peyton manning
FABULOSALAKER says:
dang new post and its dam footbal
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Would you rather have a post about the NBA’s winners and losers? #jsutsayin…
(joins Ace while waving my Monsta Head Manning banner)
@GEEK I WOULD ADVISE U NOT TO TAKE THAT ROUTE TODAY OK IM VERY SENSITIVE ABOUT THE CHAMPS SO BACK THE FUK UP
6. Rivers
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The Chargers not even in the running no mo…and he is my boy and all being he played for NC State…but ahhhh…
@ACE
“i need to know the criteria for this list of yours…
if its just 2010 then Vick is top 5
is it’s career which i’m assuming as you used career “accomplishments” to reason for Eli and Romo
then Vick should be definitely top 7…as you have to include his work in ATL. which ROMO CASSEL RYAN AND RODGERS CANT TOUCH”
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My criteria is based on a number of things. It’s not just based on “career accomplishments” but I do take those into consideration. I look at stats, the overall team situation, coaching, injuries, the team’s performance with out you. Just a number of things.
Vick isn’t a top 5 QB either. He’s not even close to:
1. Manning
2. Brady
3. Breeze
4. Rothlissburger
5. Rodgers
**Not appreciating those remarks about my son! He’s sensitive about his skull deformity…**
:hugs: @ AL
Nothing on this post
I can admit it, it’s my fault. I congraluated Michael Vick on twitter yesterday for being so cool that the President called to commend his coach for hiring him *hides head in shame*. Now I must console him.
(starts waving Kobe Bean Bites banner with her other hand)
Vick needs to rest the next game bottom line his ass looked tired. Not even gonna go there with Obama and this foolishness not today.
Vick #11 damn hmmn but maybe……
Yso its early I dont want to have to bring out the flammables this early
@KWALL
“6. Rivers
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The Chargers not even in the running no mo…and he is my boy and all being he played for NC State…but ahhhh…”
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Yeah… and they had injuries, contract hold outs and lost some good players (Tomlinson, Merriman). Plus they have Norv “I-have-no-idea-what-I’m-doing” Turner as coach too.
The Eagles were 11-5 last year… they will be 11-5 this year.
#team Obama, #team Vick. I’m still surprised that the Vikings decided to wake up.
@YSO
“(starts waving Kobe Bean Bites banner with her other hand)”
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Kobe is my brother and he doesn’t appreciate your shenanigans!
@Pinsghetti
SO IT WAS YOU!!
(pelts you with Nerf footballs)
I was going for the Saints so I was glad they won
Hey Danielle
Choco did you see the connection that was happening yesterday
The Eagles offensive line is the blame. Mike Vick was sacked 6 times. Blank stare.
Shout out to the Vikings Quarterback, Joe Webb. He handled his business.
Im very proud of a certain two that is playing nicely so far
Quick question, is Rothlissburger the rapist?
@yso MEANIE
@Man
Peyton’s your son…Kobe’s your brother…The women in your family must have some flucked up cervixes.
@harlem
who playing nice??
LAKER
it went out the window with comment 61
:hugs: @MissH
Thank you. But the day is still young.
Good Morning All
@ Charbee, I heard about the Gilbert Arenas story this morning. If he really did leave her and the kids broke, I’m sure she coulda sucked Shaq off for a few dollars.
@Al
Whose connection I dipped out ohhhh between Man and YSO
@choco
MissHarlem says:
LAKER it went out the window with comment 61
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@laykeya
“Quick question, is Rothlissburger the rapist?”
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No, no he is not.
(Rothlissburger is my second favorite player to my son)
(doesn’t like where this topic is going)
and lost some good players (Tomlinson)
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I MISS my LT on the team!!!!
I follow players and not teams…football is not as bad as basketball though with the trades and what not…but basketball? They will trade your azz in the middle of the WEEK…I was DONE with that ish when Sprewell was at Golden State with a big azz ‘fro on Monday for ONE game after his suspension…and on like Wed. this nukka was on the east coast in NY with the Knicks with dayum cornrows…
YSO girl I spoke to soon you killed it with comment 61
damn my mouth
MIRS & CHARBEE dont feel bad for the chick 2010 has been the year of the jumpoffs and Im over it hopefully 2011 all jumpoff with go and #killyoself
:hugs: @ Lakes
*will
why bother
@KWALL
Sprewell was THAT NIGGA! He was pure HOOD. That’s was my boy tho. Dat nigga turned down a $27 MILLION dollar contract because he had to “feed his family!” ROFLMAO
Nigga showed up to the arbitrator hearing after he choked his coach in a mink coat! ROFLMAO!
He blew all his money. SMH. Niggas…
@laykeya
“Quick question, is Rothlissburger the rapist?”
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No, no he is not.
(Rothlissburger is my second favorite player to my son)
Oh, oK sorry, I thought his name seemed familiar and that it was connected to a few rape incidents. I don’t really follow sports unless my teams are in the championships, Superbowl and such(which they usually are).
@ Man, I just don’t care™ says:
My criteria is based on a number of things. It’s not just based on “career accomplishments” but I do take those into consideration. I look at stats, the overall team situation, coaching, injuries, the team’s performance with out you. Just a number of things.
Vick isn’t a top 5 QB either. He’s not even close to:
1. Manning
2. Brady
3. Breeze
4. Rothlissburger
5. Rodgers
Not even CLOSE.
**Not appreciating those remarks about my son! He’s sensitive about his skull deformity…**
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The only legitimate arguement that you have is Brady. Vick has become just as accurate with the pass as ALL of the mentioned QBs, PLUS Vick is the only one to run a 4.2.
“Team Situation” – Have you watched Vick’s oline? Vick has more sacks that all the QBs that you listed….and if he couldnt run a 4.2, the number of sacks would be a LOT more.
“Coaching” – So Andy Reid has a great back in McCoy but decides to pass all damn day…gets kinda predictable. But I guess you don’t see that as a problem.
“Team’s performance without Vick”
Game 1 – Vick brings the team within 7 in the 2nd half
Game 4 – lost to Redskins, a .400 team
Game 5 – win over the 49ers, a .333 team
Game 6 – only solid win for your argument against ATL
Game 7 – lost to Titans, a .400 team
Is this what you call success without Vick? #noshadetokolb though…maybe he can improve
@YSO
“Peyton’s your son…Kobe’s your brother…The women in your family must have some flucked up cervixes. ”
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This is not appreciated.
MissHarlem says:
MIRS & CHARBEE dont feel bad for the chick 2010 has been the year of the jumpoffs and Im over it hopefully 2011 all jumpoff with go and #killyoself
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We are >>>>>>>HERE<<<<<<<<<
I damn sure don't feel bad if she didn't have sense enough to stack funds for a rainy day.
@MissH
It has already been established that them boys got some ill-shaped heads. I was just postulating on why that may be the case. Y’all just trying to start some chit this morning.
Yeah choco dude was pouring her wine and the whole nine i was like i knew it would happen
@LOVELY ONE
“The only legitimate arguement that you have is Brady. Vick has become just as accurate with the pass as ALL of the mentioned QBs, PLUS Vick is the only one to run a 4.2.
“Team Situation” – Have you watched Vick’s oline? Vick has more sacks that all the QBs that you listed….and if he couldnt run a 4.2, the number of sacks would be a LOT more.
“Coaching” – So Andy Reid has a great back in McCoy but decides to pass all damn day…gets kinda predictable. But I guess you don’t see that as a problem.
“Team’s performance without Vick”
Game 1 – Vick brings the team within 7 in the 2nd half
Game 4 – lost to Redskins, a .400 team
Game 5 – win over the 49ers, a .333 team
Game 6 – only solid win for your argument against ATL
Game 7 – lost to Titans, a .400 team
Is this what you call success without Vick? #noshadetokolb though…maybe he can improve”
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The O-line isn't the problem for Vick being sacked so often, it's because he doesn't make quick decisions or get rid of the ball. He RELIES on that 4.2 speed and that's why he will lose, AGAIN, in the playoffs. Wait, isn't that why he got injured AGAIN last night?????? Yes, yes it is.
True to every one of the games that you mentioned without Vick. And let's take a DEEPER look, Kolb played between GOOD and GREAT in those games and the reason Kolb was in was because Vick GOT HIMSELF INJURED.
Any coach that can get to the Super Bowl with McNabb and T.O. on the same team HAS to be able to coach so that isn't the problem. The bottom line is the Eagles WITH VICK are no better than the Eagles with Donovan "Broad Smile" McNabb. A speed bump in the playoffs.
MIRS When she slobbin that knob she should of thought to save some money for that rainy day because inevitably it was coming dumb bish
CANDIIIII darliinnngg
MissHarlem says:
YSO girl I spoke to soon you killed it with comment 61 damn my mouth
MIRS & CHARBEE dont feel bad for the chick 2010 has been the year of the jumpoffs and Im over it hopefully 2011 all jumpoff with go and #killyoself
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Okay okay…..BISH shoulda been saving some chips for a rainy day.
She has like 50-11 kids so hell she gone get that dough anyway….So sad though. STUPID IS AS STUPID DOES.
Laykeya Dude was “accussed of rape a few times
Sprewell was THAT NIGGA! He was pure HOOD
Showed up to the arbitrator hearing after he choked his coach in a mink coat! ROFLMAO!
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That dude is from “The Wauk” (Milwaukee)!!! Hoodest place on ERFF…onliest place I know of where they still rock jheri curls…
Sorry to any Wauk natives…but I still standby what I said when I visited two years ago…I was appalled at the amount of folks who still was stuck in 1986…”JUST LET CHO SOUL GLOW….”
@Lakeya
Rothassburglar is a rapist. He’s just not a convicted rapist.
@MissH
I’m misunderstood.
hey harlem! *waving hysterically* :wave: *twirls around in my new houndstooth shawl that i got for christmas to replace the blanket i was using at work #dontjudgeme* u like
From the pages of ATTORNEYMOM’S CHARACTER CORNER:
“TUCKER CARLSON THINKS MIKE VICK SHOULD BE EXECUTED”
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Look at this EDOMITE!
He don’t even know the destruction awaiting him and his whole race.
What a joke.
The only execution that will be taking place, is the execution of ESAU…
3 The pride of thine heart hath deceived thee, thou that dwellest in the clefts of the rock, whose habitation is high; that saith in his heart, Who shall bring me down to the ground?
4 Though thou exalt thyself as the eagle, and though thou set thy nest among the stars, thence will I bring thee down, saith the LORD.
Obadiah 1:3-4
is it Jan 1st yet…?
“Get rowdy as Roethlisberger in a bathroom stall” from “Despicable” by Eminem.
My baby is just misunderstood share your knowledge guhl!
“Get rowdy as Roethlisberger in a bathroom stall” from “Despicable” by Eminem
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@THE BIG BEN HATERS
Rothlissburger was ACCUSED of rape, like a plethora of athletes before him (see below), but has never been convicted (or even officially charged).
Juwan Howard
Michael Irvin
Jerome Bettis
Mike Tyson
Peyton Manning (betcha you ain’t know bout dis one)
Kobe Bryant
Kevin Garnett (betcha you ain’t know bout dis one)
@ace no redemption is still here preaching and chit
@man kobe did not rape that bish she took her azz to his room when her gold digging azz was supose to be regestering people in “he raped me” who the fuk told ur azz to go to his fukn room bish u wanted ur walls tore down and get a check B!TCH
OK IGNORE ME GO ON
Didnt know about Garnett but i did know about Peyton “Quasimodo” Manning
ACE Comment 95 be nice
YSO yes hun you are misunderstood
*steals houndstooth shawl from CANDI* no judgements here
Roth therapist was snatchin chicks up all in public takin it but you right he was accussed of Rape a handful of times that last one i was like if it was me or any man with a darker Hue than Big Benraping i would have got two life sentences. The cops was lying for him and everything
*pulls out another made of authentic panda bear fur* u can have that one. sharing is caring
@AL
Yup. KG was in high school at the time… he changed schools and it was kinda brushed under the rug.
ROFLMAO at “Quasimodo.” Yall goin stop talkin bout my son like that tho!
Whats up Miss H how you baby?
*switches shawl without you noticing*
she aint neva gonna notice 
LMAO CANDI why did some chick request me on FB with ass shots etc Im like hmmmm I know this aint CANDI
ALBOY I am good babe didnt mean to shout you out but…….
*pulls hunnid dollar bill i stashed in the one she switched back* where we going for lunch?
i’m so ready to go home! these fools at work won’t see me til 2011!
Sorry I was late with the Salutations I am on some other stuff in this office my fault baby.
lol had it been midnight bootycall it might have been
but no my fb is clean and pure (i edited it awhile ago *adjusts halo) and my dad is my fb friend *sigh*
@MISS H
“why did some chick request me on FB with ass shots ”
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did you friend her?
@ Ms christmas tree Resse cup how you this morning baby?
*backflips into a tub of peppermint flavored whipped cream* i’m good, how are u?
Good just trying to clean off my desk
I will be done by 1730
Michael Irvin
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Only thing this nukka ever raped was
The others even the ones that we never heard about….I MIGHT believe…but if Irvin raped a woman it was ’cause she had leftovers around her nose.
kwall says:
Michael Irvin
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Only thing this nukka ever raped was
The others even the ones that we never heard about….I MIGHT believe…but if Irvin raped a woman it was ’cause she had leftovers around her nose
you stupid 
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Danielle says:
Aww man I knew this post was coming. Sandra always finds a way to make everythinng President Obama’s fault
#TeamPresidentObama
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@ Man, I just don’t care™ says:
<<<<<<sarcasm
The O-line isn't the problem for Vick being sacked so often, it's because he doesn't make quick decisions or get rid of the ball. He RELIES on that 4.2 speed and that's why he will lose, AGAIN, in the playoffs. Wait, isn't that why he got injured AGAIN last night?????? Yes, yes it is.
True to every one of the games that you mentioned without Vick. And let's take a DEEPER look, Kolb played between GOOD and GREAT in those games and the reason Kolb was in was because Vick GOT HIMSELF INJURED.
Any coach that can get to the Super Bowl with McNabb and T.O. on the same team HAS to be able to coach so that isn't the problem. The bottom line is the Eagles WITH VICK are no better than the Eagles with Donovan "Broad Smile" McNabb. A speed bump in the playoffs.
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And Brady does not make quick decisions to get rid of the ball either. Brady is sitting in the pocket for a good :15 before he can even THINK about pressure.
At the beginning of the season, Kolb was the starter and despite Vick balling in games 1-3 Kolb was still recognized as the starter as soon as he got healthy. You are dead wrong. Vick would still be running that wildcard bullshit it Kolb was never hurt.
McNabb has had good numbers for the majority of his career so I dont think your last argument makes any sense.
@LOVELY ONE
“And Brady does not make quick decisions to get rid of the ball either. Brady is sitting in the pocket for a good :15 before he can even THINK about pressure.
At the beginning of the season, Kolb was the starter and despite Vick balling in games 1-3 Kolb was still recognized as the starter as soon as he got healthy. You are dead wrong. Vick would still be running that wildcard bull**** it Kolb was never hurt.
McNabb has had good numbers for the majority of his career so I dont think your last argument makes any sense.”
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Brady MAY be able to sit in the pocket for 15 seconds, but he never does because the ball is already gone by then. Drew Breeze and Ben Rothlissburger don’t have the best O-lines either, yet they aren’t sacked as often and their teams have comparable if not better records.
Furthermore, Kolb (whose 40 yard dash is measured by a calendar) isn’t sacked as often as Vick and he is behind the EXACT SAME O-LINE.
I’m sorry, but the team was 11-5 last year, and will be the same this year (that’s ASSUMING they win their last game).
If you believe for one iota of a second that Donovan “Kia” McNabb is good by any measure then I guess I shouldn’t be surprised for your affinity for Vick. Is like McNabb 2.0. Donovan is a born loser. That’s all he will ever be. Some of his stats have been decent over the years, but would YOU want him in a “must win game?” Yeah…. I wouldn’t either. Same for Vick.
Amn is just a hater ….is mcnabb better than vick too? hell just put him last. smh…
‘s all i here
@ Man, I just don’t care™ says:
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Brady MAY be able to sit in the pocket for 15 seconds, but he never does because the ball is already gone by then. Drew Breeze and Ben Rothlissburger don’t have the best O-lines either, yet they aren’t sacked as often and their teams have comparable if not better records.
Furthermore, Kolb (whose 40 yard dash is measured by a calendar) isn’t sacked as often as Vick and he is behind the EXACT SAME O-LINE. I’m sorry, but the team was 11-5 last year, and will be the same this year (that’s ASSUMING they win their last game).
If you believe for one iota of a second that Donovan “Kia” McNabb is good by any measure then I guess I shouldn’t be surprised for your affinity for Vick. Is like McNabb 2.0. Donovan is a born loser. That’s all he will ever be. Some of his stats have been decent over the years, but would YOU want him in a “must win game?” Yeah…. I wouldn’t either. Same for Vick.
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Every QB you named has a better Oline than Vick. If you divide the touches/sack you will find the following:
Peyton = 1 sack per 43 touches
Eli = 1 sack per 32 touches
Brees = 1 sack per 28 touches
Brady = 1 sack per 19 touches
Rodgers = 1 sack per 15 touches
Big Ben = 1 sack per 11 touches
Vick = 1 sack per 11 touches
The only Oline that compares is Big Ben’s. But according to your theory, you judge by how the team does WITHOUT the star QB. Well, Ben’s team is 3-1 w/o Ben, while the Eagles are 2-3 w/o Vick as the starter.
If you watched the Eagles game, you would see that Kolb does checkdowns all day. And pressure is the dude’s kryptonite.
Out of 10 years of playtime, McNabb has went to the playoffs 7x. If you wanna say he flakes on big games then fine, BUT do note that McNabb has only had 2 losing seasons: (1) 2005 where he was hurt for 6 games and (2) 2010 – if you dont know the BS surrounding that DC team than you dont watch football. He is not a scrub.