Jovan Belcher pledged not to be violent toward women years before he killed his girlfriend

Jovan Belcher and Kasandra Perkins

Family members and friends of former Kansas City Chiefs linebacker Jovan Belcher say debilitating head injuries may have lead to the murder-suicide of Belcher and his girlfriend.

Police say Belcher, 25, unloaded his weapon 9 times into Kasandra Perkins, killing the mother of his infant daughter in their Kansas City home early Saturday.

He then drove about 5 miles to the team’s Arrowhead practice facility, where he turned a different gun on himself in front of his shocked coach and general manager.

Jovan Belcher and Kasandra Perkins

According to a report in the NY Post, Belcher suffered painful migraine headaches caused by “football-related head injuries”. Belcher, who played for the Chiefs from 2009-2012, drank heavily and may have been addicted to painkillers, the Post reports.

He was “a player who had not had a long concussion history,” said Chiefs chairman Clark Hunt on Sunday.

Perkins’ friends are telling the unsanitized version of the relationship between Belcher and Perkins that differs widely from what his friends are saying. There is talk about volatile arguments fueled by Belcher’s drinking, and Belcher staying away from home for extended periods.

“[Belcher] wouldn’t have had a reason to be jealous,” said Deveen Dunson-Rusher, a friend of Perkins, who added “She was here when she could be.

“She always had dinner ready for him. Did laundry. Baby was always cleaned and pampered,” said Rusher.

But Perkins didn’t have dinner ready for Belcher on Friday night. Instead, she and her friends attended a concert by R&B singer Trey Songz in Kansas City. Perkins was late getting home from the concert. She arrived home around 1 a.m., where a furious Belcher waited.

The usual arguments ensued about her partying and lack of attentiveness to the baby. But this time the rancorous arguing ended in tragedy.

Belcher’s mother, Cheryl Shepherd, moved in with the couple to help Perkins with 2-month-old Zoey.

Belcher credited his “hard working” single mother for raising him as best she could without a father figure in his life.

In a 2008 interview he said: “My mother is a hardworking woman. To see her overcome some things and succeed, it makes me look at things and say, ‘this isn’t even hard.’”

But despite his mother pulling double duty as mother and father, she couldn’t make up for the mental toughness that only a man can instill in a boy his age.

Boys learn how to handle their emotions in ways that only a man can teach them. In the absence of a father figure, he could only observe his mother’s highly emotional reactions when she was angry.

That may be why Belcher devoted his adult life to ending violence against women.

While attending the University of Maine on a football scholarship he was a member of Male Athletes Against Violence (MAAV) which describes itself as an ‘effort to involve men so that we can begin to understand that violence is very much a ‘man’s issue.’

MAAV encourages male athletes to wear white ribbons on campus to show solidarity in their stand against violence toward women.

Belcher was outspoken about his respect for women which he inherited from his mother.

But his mother’s courage and intestinal fortitude couldn’t prepare him for the sports groupies, who spread like cancer among the ranks of professional athletes.

Some of them are merciful, leaving the athlete with his manhood intact and his bank account only partially depleted of funds.

But other groupies go for the jackpot: a baby which they use like a sponge to drain a man emotionally and financially.

Shades of Rae Carruth.

The son who grows up without a father will internalize his pain and be consumed by feelings of worthlessness. He “will go through life with abandonment issues. Always waiting for the next person to leave.”

They enter unhealthy relationships, always holding on tighter, “suffocating others, because they are so afraid of someone leaving them.”

She told him she was leaving him and filing for child support that fateful Saturday morning. She’d left him before, taking the baby with her to stay with friends. Maybe it was the tone of her voice or the look in her eyes that convinced him she meant it this time.

Ms. Shpherd, Belcher’s mother, witnessed her son shoot Perkins multiple times. The baby was in another room. Belcher walked out of her life the way his father walked out of his.

He drove to the Arrowhead practice facility and committed suicide in front of his coach and general manager. But before he pulled the trigger, he thanked the men for everything they did for him — everything his own father didn’t do.

Shepherd will now take custody of baby Zoey. She plans to raise Zoey in her West Babylon, NY home where she raised her son as best as she could without a man in his life.

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    146 Responses to “Jovan Belcher pledged not to be violent toward women years before he killed his girlfriend”

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      :tea: I swear ninjas are going crazy

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      bubblicious says:

      Just fcked up.

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      MsB says:

      :pray: ing for the family… That baby is a friggin DOLL!

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      Oprahs Bunion says:

      This story is so sad. Mental illness is real and people need to know when to seek help. I just had a neighbor whose 18 year old son hung himself last week. He had been battling bipolar disorder for a long time, but recently stopped seeing a doctor. Just so sad.

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      I honestly don’t have nothing else to say about this but that this is unfortunate for the child :tea: Just sad though :no:

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      INTENSEMOCHA THE ANTAGONIST says:

      PEOPLE NEED TO QUIT IT SERIOUSLY, I DON’T GIVE A DAMN IF THIS WOMAN STAYED OUT ALL DAMN NIGHT, DRINKING AND PARTYING THAT DOESN’T GIVE THIS KNEEGRO THE RIGHT TO KILL HER!!!!!

      AGAIN A MAN SPECIFICALLY A BLACK MAN WHO HAD OBVIOUS ANGER ISSUES AND CHOSE TO HANDLE CONFLICT WITH VIOLENCE AND BECAUSE HE HAD MONEY AND A LUCRATIVE CAREER-SOMEHOW HE CAN’T BE ACCOUNTABLE ALL BY HIMSELF, THE VICTIM HAS TO BE AT FAULT AS WELL

      THIS IS THE SHIAT I’M TALKING ABOUT :coffee: BUT WHEN A MAN KILLS A STEPCHILD OR HIS OWN CHILD, THE BLAME IS FOCUSED ON THE MOTHER CAUSE SHE SHOULD HAVE CHOSE A BETTER MATE, WELL THIS NICCA COULD HAVE DONE THE SAME-MADE A BETTER CHOICE OF WHO TO HAVE A CHILD WITH

      AND NOT ACT LIKE GOD AND TAKE HER LIFE THE MOMENT SHE DIDN’T BEHAVE THE WAY HE WANTED HER TOO

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      bubblicious says:

      More and more studies about how contact sports cause serious and irreversible brain damage. They may finally start trying to do something about.

      Or not cause that might affect their bottom lines.

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      Who Dat says:

      Ummm we are not comparing this dude to Rae Carruth are we? For real? Who killed poor Cherica to avoid paying child support? :no:

      *Rae will be out in the next 4-5 years I do belee.

      RIP to the young ones who lost their lives.

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      A.J. says:

      @Oprahs B

      :cosign: Mental illness and misdiagnosis is killing us all dead!

    10. 10

      THis is so sad! :pray: for both sides of the families…

    11. 11

      Just had to delete so many on the twittah, my feed was getting out of damn control :blink: But now Its looking much better now :thumbsup:

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      INTENSEMOCHA THE ANTAGONIST says:

      SHOT THAT WOMAN 9 TIMES IN FRONT OF HER MOTHER, I’M ASSUMING THEIR CHILD WAS PRESENT, AND THEN SHOOTS HIMSELF IN FRONT OF HIS COACHES FUGGIN UP THEIR LIVES AS WELL, SELFISH BASTARD, MENTAL ILLNESS IS A BIATCH GET HELP BUT DON’T WREAK HAVOC AND HELL ON OTHERS BECAUSE DEMONS RIDING YOUR DAMN BACK!!!

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      Keesh says:

      This is still so sad to me…

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      Oprahs Bunion says:

      “But despite his mother pulling double duty as mother and father, she couldn’t make up for the mental toughness that only a man can instill in a boy his age.

      Boys learn how to handle their emotions in ways that only a man can teach them. In the absence of a father figure, he could only observe his mother’s highly emotional reactions when she was angry.”
      ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

      Come on Sandra…Mental illness has nothing to do with an absent father. It runs way deeper than that. The same circumstances could have occurred having both parents in the home…smh

    15. 15

      <–saw a special on high school and younger football teams. AND what I saw was not good :no: at all! My lil one isn't in to sports but if he was, I'd take him out after I saw that special. djm :tea:

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      Keesh says:

      I stopped my 13yr old son from playing Football last year due to the migranes he started having. He was known for as the kid who hit hard on the team…no more, no more!

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      INTENSEMOCHA THE ANTAGONIST says:

      THE SYMPATHY AND COMPASSION THIS MAN IS BEING SHOWN IS SICK, BUT IF HE HAD BEEN A FEMALE THERE WOULD BE LITTLE OR NO COMPASSION

      THE HYPOCRISY :coffee:

    18. 18

      And whoever a damn Nychelle is on the damn twittah need to getyolife beesh :tea: _I_ <<<< THE middle finger

    19. 19

      Kdub, I bet somebody puts rae (no caps) outta his misery for how that baby is living now :tea:

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      Such A F'n Lady says:

      Sad story for all involved. :pray: most for that poor baby that will now not have her mother or father to grow up with.

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      Oprahs Bunion says:

      INTENSEMOCHA THE ANTAGONIST says:

      SHOT THAT WOMAN 9 TIMES IN FRONT OF HER MOTHER, I’M ASSUMING THEIR CHILD WAS PRESENT, AND THEN SHOOTS HIMSELF IN FRONT OF HIS COACHES FUGGIN UP THEIR LIVES AS WELL, SELFISH BASTARD, MENTAL ILLNESS IS A BIATCH GET HELP BUT DON’T WREAK HAVOC AND HELL ON OTHERS BECAUSE DEMONS RIDING YOUR DAMN BACK!!!

      ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

      I agree.

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      Betamax82 says:

      I still can’t get over the fact that he killed the mother of his child,himself, and traumatized two people in the process now their baby is left parent less the devil stays busy just sad all over

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      bubblicious says:

      Sandra can always find a way to make a single mother be at fault. It’s one of her gifts.

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      Oprahs Bunion says:

      Good Morning EVERYONE!!! I have been out a few days! Hope everyone is well on today!

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      jeniefrumdabloc says:

      And whoever a damn Nychelle is on the damn twittah need to getyolife beesh :tea: _I_ <<<< THE middle finger

      Now Jenny, I'm nosey as hail, so spill it if you want :lol: OR just leave that twot mess in twotterville :D

      :popcorn: <–can't decide if she wants to be nosey or not :lol:

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      ThatgirlJD says:

      Sandra, you are an awesome storyteller…not that I don’t believe what you wrote…but you weave such an intricate tale full of detail and physiological observations even though we will never really understand this man’s thoughts and actions….SMH…we can only pray for the child and families left to mourn this man’s selfish act.

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      prynsexxx says:

      So sad. All of this. I won’t touch on the single parent, fatherless, mental illness saga. I just pray that they are able to pick up and move on. It’s going to be harder than anyone can ever imagine. The 14 year anniversary of my brothers murder-suicide will be here on the 6th. Seems just like yesterday. Damn.

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      sassyshe says:

      This is sad no matter what the reasons were

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      I will wait for the autopsy to see what was up with this cat’s brain :no: SMH!

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      WorkInProgress says:

      RIP to Kasandra Perkins and my condolences go out to her family. This story is very disheartening.

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      AlluringlySweet says:

      This has nothing to do with a lack of a father. There are violent men who grow up in two parent household. This man had some type of mental issue stemming from concussions and a possible drinking problem. The baby os who I’m praying for, that child has lost both parents and in a murder-suicide to boot. This is tragic all the way around. Bpth mothers have lost their children and no one will ever know what was really going on in his mind.

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      prynsexxx says:

      bubblicious says:

      Sandra can always find a way to make a single mother be at fault. It’s one of her gifts.
      _______________________

      ….or curse. :tea:

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      DTS I will leave it on the twittah, Just had to put that out there :tea:

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      FuturedocDonte says:

      I’m ready for a new post already

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      Oprahs Bunion says:

      bubblicious says:

      Sandra can always find a way to make a single mother be at fault. It’s one of her gifts.

      ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
      Sometimes she just goes overboard.

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      NaijaGal says:

      I guess I’m one of the few who isn’t buying this mental illness spill (shoutout to Intense)…first of all for a gun to be involved he either had it waiting or went to get it in the midst of an argument…deliberate move…this nigguh wanted to go out in a blaze of glory…thus the whole driving to the camp to talk to the coach and GM then blow his brains out in front of them…this nigguh was calculated in every step…now everbody suffers…the daughter is parentless…I’m certain the victim’s mother is going to get custody of the daughter and do you really believe she’s going to allow anyone on his side of the family to come see this child…nope…this was a nigguh full of himself probably used to getting what he wanted and when the cards didn’t roll his way, he pulled a bitchass selfish move…miss me with the mental illness or any ounce of empathy for his ass

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      AlluringlySweet says:

      *is *both typing on phone

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      goat76 says:

      Fcuk dat sh1t. Just wrong! Point Blank!

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      free says:

      don’t blame this shyt on the nfl….

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      Gigi26 says:

      Sandra i’ma need you to :stop:

      This situation is all the way fukked up and that dude will have to account for his actions with his maker. He left his daughter without a mother and a father! That child will have no memories of her parents and the ones she’ll see in public will destroy her for a very long time.

      I wish the best for all parties in this situation esp the GM and the coach that witnessed him blow his head off. He’s a sick individual :no:

      I did notice in all of the pics, you don’t see other people. Idk but that jumped out to me.

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      Have ya’ll noticed the ones that have never fathered or mothered a child a day in their lives always have the most to say about why child is a certain way :tea:

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      Oprahs Bunion says:

      prynsexxx says:

      So sad. All of this. I won’t touch on the single parent, fatherless, mental illness saga. I just pray that they are able to pick up and move on. It’s going to be harder than anyone can ever imagine. The 14 year anniversary of my brothers murder-suicide will be here on the 6th. Seems just like yesterday. Damn.

      ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
      Sorry for your loss. Im curious though. What happened?..if you care to share.

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      prynsexxx says:

      sassyshe says:

      This is sad no matter what the reasons were
      ___________________________

      :cosign:

      <—– leaving post, I have a headache :kona:

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      NFL is like a corporation (BIG MONEY…BIG BUSINESS. hs and college’s included)IMB and they don’t care or will not stop it because if they did, then what would us Americans do ….. THINK ABOUT THE REAL ISSUES PLAGUING OUR COUNTRY… AND NOBODY WANTS THAT. WAKE UP FOLKS.

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      Breezy says:

      I have no sympathy for dude at all. What he did was so selfish and cowardly. I don’t care what she did, said or didn’t do, she did not deserve to die. His actions has affected so many lives. I hope the mother finds strength and get the help that she will need to carry on. I can only imagine her pain right now. That poor baby is now parentless :smh:

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      goat76 says:

      I’m with you NaijaGal. I know it will make some mad, but I don’t buy the mental illness. I believe the illness is real, but I think it’s been used a crutch too.

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      Who Dat says:

      Kdub, I bet somebody puts rae (no caps) outta his misery for how that baby is living now

      ^^^
      Every few years the Charlotte Observer does a Where Are They Now piece on Chancellor (the baby)… I wouldn’t be surprised if one of her family members does it when he gets out. Her momma has had the time of her life with the death of her daughter and raising that baby with severe special needs. :no:

      I have followed that story from day ONE. That and Deidre/Fred Lane.

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      Oprahs Bunion says:

      jeniefrumdabloc says:

      Have ya’ll noticed the ones that have never fathered or mothered a child a day in their lives always have the most to say about why child is a certain way

      ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
      HAHAHAHAHA!

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      prynsexxx says:

      @Oprah

      I’ve shared it before. It’s not that I have a problem sharing, but I have a real live headache right now. Long story short.

      They were cheating. SHE got caught. He shot her. Killed himself 5 hours later. Her daughter and sister came in and found them. We had the double funeral on my 22nd bday.

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      INTENSEMOCHA THE ANTAGONIST says:

      @NAIJA

      EXACTLY, THIS SPIN ON THE STORY MAKES A MONSTER APPEAR MORE HUMAN AND IS ONLY TO GAIN COMPASSION SO THAT HIS LEGACY HE LEFT BEHIND SEEMS LESS DAMAGING, BUT I AINT BUYING THIS SHIAT EITHER, YOUR ASSESMENT SEEMS MORE ACCURATE, THEN THE WEB SR AND THE MEDIA IS SPINNIG ABOUVE :coffee:

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      Gigi26 says:

      And i’m pretty sure he’s told her things that would allude to his ass being crazy…Idk if it was calculated @Naija he just may have spazzed out cuz i’m pretty sure he had the gun legally :shrugs:

      Too bad she saw his crazy on that fateful day. Gotta pay attention to the signs :no:

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      DownBottom says:

      This is very tragic indeed..esp for little Zoey…and what’s more tragic is ppl trying to find excuses/reasoning for it…SMDH :no:

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      lovezoe says:

      it makes me SICK when people blame the victim. Parents need time alone. im gone refrain fo I get banned

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      :wink: Gotcha Jenny
      ===========
      #42 it’s always like that though huh…

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      free says:

      <–Doesn't Talk To Strangers says: NFL is like a corporation (BIG MONEY…BIG BUSINESS. hs and college’s included)IMB and they don’t care or will not stop it

      ****************************

      stop what?

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      NaijaGal says:

      Damn PRYNN :hug: *rant about Christmas, you’ll feel better* ;)

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      goat76 says:

      Sorry to hear that Pryn, surely hope my comments didn’t offend you or anyone else.

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      lovezoe says:

      it makes me SICK when people blame the victim. Parents need time alone. im gone refrain fo I get banned
      _________________

      Chile I dun already had a slip of the fingers this morning so let me be out :steer:

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      Free, up top I was talmbout a special that I saw, and it was discussing the physical affects of playing football, in little league, high school, and college.

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      San says:

      Some men are just controlling plain and simple and when it’s not their way they can’t take it…

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      Smonae80 says:

      :sad:
      Ladies pick ur mate carefully, crazy usually comes out to say hi, so u just have to pay attention
      to the signs #realtalk

      This coward took her life & his, left that baby with no parents :no:

    63. 63

      Oh yeah if anyone cares Kate Middleton is expecting her first child :tea:

    64. 64

      Naija, how was your LONG ass vacay?! :lol:

      SR gave us these while you were out…

      :listen:

      :scared:

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      @NikkeMinxx says:

      Welcome back Naija! I missededdit you…

      jeniefrumdabloc says:
      And whoever a damn Nychelle is on the damn twittah need to getyolife beesh
      _______________________________________
      Girl, she is on this site’s blog roll/hot links column… Had a classic row with one of the usual suspects and will be here for you in roughly 5….4….3… I think she’s an author… :coffee: You just be ready and dont say I didnt warn you…

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      Oprahs Bunion says:

      I do not sympathize with him, but I beg to differ about his condition. I think he did suffer from some type of mental illness because normal people in our society do not commit these types of irrational acts. Most “normal” folks who have an argument do not end up killing the other person and him/her self. We are not wired that way when handling emotions and stressful situations. There were probably red flags long ago about his mental state, but he never sought the help necessary. That’s all I’m saying.

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      goat76 says:

      That’s the chance when you sign the dotted line to play football. From pee-wee all the way up to NFL. You’re literally putting your life on the line. People know this from day one.

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      ninjarider_sb says:

      This is definetely a very sad story. I see that the story states his mother will take custody of the baby….but, does Kasandra Perkins not have family members who would want to take custody???? If she has a mother and/father still living I can see this becoming a custody battle.

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      A.J. says:

      They may finally start trying to do something about.
      ______________________________
      I’m certain they will. This is mighty close to hope for them.

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      FuturedocDonte says:

      I saw a commercial for a Dora the explorer that does gymnastics. Break out the boxing gloves. Cuz negroes will be in Walmart fighting just like when tickle me Elmo came out

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      I 2nd that ‘Pick your mate’ better! But this convo could go in a Circle :shrug:

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      Oprahs Bunion says:

      prynsexxx says:

      @Oprah

      I’ve shared it before. It’s not that I have a problem sharing, but I have a real live headache right now. Long story short.

      They were cheating. SHE got caught. He shot her. Killed himself 5 hours later. Her daughter and sister came in and found them. We had the double funeral on my 22nd bday.
      ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
      Just devastating…

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      San says:

      jeniefrumdabloc says:

      Oh yeah if anyone cares Kate Middleton is expecting her first child
      ______________
      Nope, it was just a matter of time tho

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      bubblicious says:

      Not making excuses for what he ultimately chose to do. Just acknowledging there could be more to this than we know.

      As for blaming the victim, that’s complete bullsht but it seems to be our society’s favorite pastime. Especially when the victim is a woman. Cause while we have almost none of the real power we are always the ones who should have been able to control the situation and saved ourselves.

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      Who Dat says:

      Girl, she is on this site’s blog roll/hot links column… Had a classic row with one of the usual suspects and will be here for you in roughly 5….4….3… I think she’s an author… You just be ready and dont say I didnt warn you…
      ^^^

      Oh SNAP….I gotta run out… cant wait to read when I come back. Is it gonna be here or on the Twittah?

      :popcorn:

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      @NikkeMinxx says:

      @Ninja Rider… Seems it would have been HER mother to come help with the baby.. so maybe there is a whole other issue….

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      Gigi26 says:

      Oh yeah if anyone cares Kate Middleton is expecting her first child
      —————
      I do!

      Congrats to the Duke and Duchess of Cambridge! :yahoo:

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      Was this couple “a couple” before the baby? Just curious. Does anybody know their dating history?

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      AllNYC says:

      Ain’t no way in hell that the killer’s momma should be raising that baby? Didn’t Kassandra have some family? Sheesh, a friend, a godparent, and damn dogwalker. Anybody would be better the mom of a killer.

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      Oprahs Bunion says:

      AllNYC says:

      Ain’t no way in hell that the killer’s momma should be raising that baby? Didn’t Kassandra have some family? Sheesh, a friend, a godparent, and damn dogwalker. Anybody would be better the mom of a killer.

      ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
      HIS mother didn’t do anything wrong…what’s the problem?

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      Smonae80 says:

      Future I’m on it, my baby saw that commercial & went banana’s
      Gymnastic Dora is def on my list

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      INTENSEMOCHA THE ANTAGONIST says:

      HINDSIGHT IS ALWAYS 20/20

      WE WOULD LIKE TO BELIEVE WE CAN SIMPLY CONTROL THE OUTCOME OF OUR LIVES BY THE COHOICES WE MAKE, BUT TRAGICALLY IT DOESN’T ALWAYS WORK OUT THAT WAY, BUT IT DOES HELP US FEEL SAFER TO THINK SO

      TO THINK THAT ANY VICTIM COULD STOP A KILLER FROM KILLING THEM SIMPLY BY NOT CHOOSING THE KILLER ISN’T REALLY ACCURATE, UNFORTUNATELY IF SOMEONE IS DETERMINED TO KILL YOU, THEY WILL IF YOU DON’T KILL THEM OR HAVE THEM LOCKED UP FIRST

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      lovezoe says:

      It’s so many different stories. Some say it was HIS mama, some say it was HER mama. Either or, I just can’t imagine someone killing someone or themselves.

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      INTENSEMOCHA THE ANTAGONIST says:

      YEAH THEY DATED FOR 3 YEARS AND WERE INTRODUCED BY A TEAM MATE

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      goat76 says:

      You think his mom had something to do with her being killed?

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      Bootcampgirl says:

      @AllNYC, just curious, are you saying that the parents’ of serial killers are at fault for their childrens’ actions??

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      Keesh says:

      AllNYC says:

      Ain’t no way in hell that the killer’s momma should be raising that baby? Didn’t Kassandra have some family? Sheesh, a friend, a godparent, and damn dogwalker. Anybody would be better the mom of a killer.

      But its really not fair to blame his mom for his actions as a grown man. Im sure she will raise this child in a loving enviornment

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      Gigi26 says:

      I’m just glad he didn’t kill his mother or the child cuz this story could be way worse than what it is now. He gave his child a chance at life so there may have been issues that him and the girl were having that were intensified during this particular argument.

      Again I :pray: for the baby and his mother.

      Him not killing everyone in the house says a lot imo.

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      A.J. says:

      There were probably red flags long ago about his mental state
      ____________________________________
      :tea: The first red flag is that eyebrow piercing (not making light of this situation).

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      Keesh says:

      @Bootcamp girl….. nice pic boo!

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      WorkInProgress says:

      Ain’t no way in hell that the killer’s momma should be raising that baby? Didn’t Kassandra have some family? Sheesh, a friend, a godparent, and damn dogwalker. Anybody would be better the mom of a killer.
      …………
      why not?

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      NaijaGal says:

      DTS :hug: my vacay was great except for that whole moving thing I had to do :lol:

      NIKKE NIKKE NIKKE :hug: morning gorgeous…you got a drink to take the edge off?

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      Thanks Intense. That’s why I never “dated” certain types, because you surely know what they’re capable of (not like this killer in this instance-but other things that you’d be subjected to).

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      Don’t blame the sport of football for this fool not opening his face and saying he needs some help.

      RIP to both him and especailly to Kassandra.

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      Bootcampgirl says:

      didn’t mean to add the serial part…

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      Breezy says:

      INTENSEMOCHA THE ANTAGONIST says:

      HINDSIGHT IS ALWAYS 20/20

      WE WOULD LIKE TO BELIEVE WE CAN SIMPLY CONTROL THE OUTCOME OF OUR LIVES BY THE COHOICES WE MAKE, BUT TRAGICALLY IT DOESN’T ALWAYS WORK OUT THAT WAY, BUT IT DOES HELP US FEEL SAFER TO THINK SO

      TO THINK THAT ANY VICTIM COULD STOP A KILLER FROM KILLING THEM SIMPLY BY NOT CHOOSING THE KILLER ISN’T REALLY ACCURATE, UNFORTUNATELY IF SOMEONE IS DETERMINED TO KILL YOU, THEY WILL IF YOU DON’T KILL THEM OR HAVE THEM LOCKED UP FIRST

      ————————————-

      :applause:

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      free says:

      <–Doesn't Talk To Strangers says: Free, up top I was talmbout a special that I saw, and it was discussing the physical affects of playing football, in little league, high school, and college.

      *****************************

      ok, i know pro football hits have been likened to car accidents.

      yes, it is a contact sport like boxing, which is also dangerous, but it's less dangerous now than it used to be. kids don't have a say in what they do or don't do, so it's on the parents whether they want to take that risk and allow their children to play. many of these parents want to live vicariously through their kids so they let them out there and the poor kids have to deal with the risks.

      college guys want and need scholarships and they love the perks that come with it. they get punished the hardest for free. get your education, get the fugg outta the game, and go about your business.

      pro players get PAID. i have no feelings for them. some of the kneegroes fugging up the game with these domestic violence charges and it don't have shyt to do with their heads. hell, i have migraines too. there has to be some personal responsibility for agreeing to play the game knowing what the consequences may be. with these players, there are females, money, babies, other family, pride, testosterone, debt, injury, stress, etc.

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      @SANDRA

      We need a good light hearted post.
      :coffee:

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      INTENSEMOCHA THE ANTAGONIST says:

      @ DTS

      TRUE~

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      @NikkeMinxx says:

      AllNYC says:
      Ain’t no way in hell that the killer’s momma should be raising that baby? Didn’t Kassandra have some family? Sheesh, a friend, a godparent, and damn dogwalker. Anybody would be better the mom of a killer.
      ___________________________________________________
      Respectfully disagree… IDK if his mother is the best available option but definitely don’t feel she should be disqualifed just because her son was the perpetrator.

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      DownBottom says:

      Man, I just don’t care™ says:

      Don’t blame the sport of football for this fool not opening his face and saying he needs some help.

      RIP to both him and especailly to Kassandra.

      *****
      :cosign:

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      Bootcampgirl says:

      Thanks Keesh..

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      Kevin Young says:

      This is why I took my son out of football. We have yet to understand the long term effects of having your brain banging back and forth, 5 days out of 7, since you were 6 years old. In the last ten years, football players have been committing suicide on a regular.

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      ninjarider_sb says:

      I was listening to the Tom Joyner morning show and this was one of their discussion topics. They also felt that the NFL should have cancelled or postponed the Kansas city game. What do you think? Is it just about the money with the NFL or should the game have been cancelled or postponed?
      What if the player had been a more “high profile” player…. Would the game have still been played?

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      @NikkeMinxx says:

      Naija! Water Mocassins all around…

      Crown Royal
      Peach Schnapps
      Pineapple juice
      Sour

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      lovezoe says:

      It really is sad. Also, it may not have been any signs. The family could have told the truth. All it takes is one act of violence to end someone’s life. It appears he intended to kill her, he shot her multiple times then killed himself. He didn’t want her to have anyone else and he didn’t want to face his crimes. They had a murder here last week where the ex shot into the car with the ex-gf’s kids in the car. He killed her. If a man wants to track your every step. gets insanely jealous, RUN! We so caught up in the rapture, we lose focus.

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      goat76 says:

      Gigi26 says:

      I’m just glad he didn’t kill his mother or the child cuz this story could be way worse than what it is now. He gave his child a chance at life so there may have been issues that him and the girl were having that were intensified during this particular argument.
      ————————————————————————–
      Drunk, on them pain killers. She came in at 1am. He’s thinkin she been messin around, because he is guilty of messing around. So they argue, and she’s probably blowing it off because its’ late, the baby is sleep. He’s drunk, high and belligerent and don’t like that she’s like fcuk dis. Then he unloads his clip into her body in front of his mom.

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      Gigi26 says:

      They also felt that the NFL should have cancelled or postponed the Kansas city game. What do you think? Is it just about the money with the NFL or should the game have been cancelled or postponed?
      —————-
      Well they won so….what’s done is done imo. Its about to be playoff season so realistically speaking the game had to be played even though their record sucks ass.

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      lovezoe says:

      The game going on shows that regardless of what, life goes on. The team decided to play. I like how they did a moment of silence for DV victims.

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      @NikkeMinxx says:

      Hey Mr Young.. I clicked your link…. Care to offer a brief explanation…

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      DownBottom says:

      goat76 says:

      Gigi26 says:

      I’m just glad he didn’t kill his mother or the child cuz this story could be way worse than what it is now. He gave his child a chance at life so there may have been issues that him and the girl were having that were intensified during this particular argument.
      ————————————————————————–
      Drunk, on them pain killers. She came in at 1am. He’s thinkin she been messin around, because he is guilty of messing around. So they argue, and she’s probably blowing it off because its’ late, the baby is sleep. He’s drunk, high and belligerent and don’t like that she’s like fcuk dis. Then he unloads his clip into her body in front of his mom.

      *********

      ^^^^^I suspected ALL of that really went down! Ish is mad sad…awful!

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      ninjarider_sb says:

      lovezoe says:

      The game going on shows that regardless of what, life goes on. The team decided to play. I like how they did a moment of silence for DV victims.
      ———————————————————————–
      :goodpost:

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      goat76 says:

      @free….that’s what I’m saying. Sounds just as bad as people blaming McDonald’s for being fat.

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      Gigi26 says:

      Drunk, on them pain killers. She came in at 1am. He’s thinkin she been messin around, because he is guilty of messing around. So they argue, and she’s probably blowing it off because its’ late, the baby is sleep. He’s drunk, high and belligerent and don’t like that she’s like fcuk dis. Then he unloads his clip into her body in front of his mom.

      :yes: or she’s left him before and made it clear that she was going to leave him for good this time around. :no:

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      A.J. says:

      :offtopic: Did we talk about the RHOA yet? (so im late)
      I need the mood lightened a bit and stuff…

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      Bootcampgirl says:

      :newpost:

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      Oprahs Bunion says:

      A.J. says:

      There were probably red flags long ago about his mental state
      ____________________________________
      The first red flag is that eyebrow piercing (not making light of this situation).

      ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
      I can’t with you!

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      Smonae80 says:

      @ ninjar I don’t think they should’ve cancelled the game, what for??
      The situation was tragic but if the ceo of BOA committed murder/suicide are they gonna close all operations no ma’am. Business as usual

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      free says:

      Kevin Young says: This is why I took my son out of football. We have yet to understand the long term effects of having your brain banging back and forth, 5 days out of 7, since you were 6 years old. In the last ten years, football players have been committing suicide on a regular.

      *****************************

      no doubt. however, football has been around for a long time. something else is happening; personally, i think PEOPLE’S COPING MECHANISMS are changing for the worse.

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      goat76 says:

      @ Gigi26…That’s a good possibility. How many times have you heard? If I can’t have you then nobody will.

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      ninjarider_sb says:

      She told him she was leaving him and filing for child support that fateful Saturday morning. She’d left him before, taking the baby with her to stay with friends. Maybe it was the tone of her voice or the look in her eyes that convinced him she meant it this time.
      ———————————————————————-
      My mother always told me if you are gonna leave a man just leave. Don’t threaten to leave especially when it comes to child spport and custody issues. She said you never know what a person is capable of especially when it comes to money.

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      Smonae80 says:

      :cosign: ninjarider

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      A.J. says:

      There were probably red flags long ago about his mental state
      ____________________________________
      The first red flag is that eyebrow piercing (not making light of this situation).

      ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
      I can’t with you!
      _________________________
      Shoal woulda been mine!! (i woulda been side eye’n lika mugg) executing a plan of action!

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      Oprahs Bunion says:

      Smonae80 says:

      @ ninjar I don’t think they should’ve cancelled the game, what for??
      The situation was tragic but if the ceo of BOA committed murder/suicide are they gonna close all operations no ma’am. Business as usual

      ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
      I agree.

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      Kevin Young says:

      @NikkeMinxx says:

      Hey Mr Young.. I clicked your link…. Care to offer a brief explanation…

      ————
      My company is producing an animated series called the Banks Family Adventures.

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      NaijaGal says:

      ninjarider_sb says:

      My mother always told me if you are gonna leave a man just leave. Don’t threaten to leave especially when it comes to child spport and custody issues. She said you never know what a person is capable of especially when it comes to money.
      =====================
      :cosgin: thought about this too…leave and let the courts handle it…all the back and forth is just a waste and we see the results

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      Kevin Young says:

      Free says,

      no doubt. however, football has been around for a long time. something else is happening; personally, i think PEOPLE’S COPING MECHANISMS are changing for the worse.

      —–
      Football has been around for a while. But there was a time that the biggest player on the field was 6’2, 250 pounds, and runs a 4.70 in the 40 yard dash. NOW, that player would be considered a small, slow dude. Now they have guys 6’7 320 pounds, running a 4.50. With the size and the speed of the players today, when they collide with each other…it’s dangerous.

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      ninjarider_sb says:

      She told him she was leaving him and filing for child support that fateful Saturday morning. She’d left him before, taking the baby with her to stay with friends. Maybe it was the tone of her voice or the look in her eyes that convinced him she meant it this time.
      ———————————————————————-
      My mother always told me if you are gonna leave a man just leave. Don’t threaten to leave especially when it comes to child spport and custody issues. She said you never know what a person is capable of especially when it comes to money.
      ==========
      :cosign: IONO why people do that either! When they should be quietly plotting and planning their moves because I’d be too scared of getting a beatdown (for real!) during the argument.

      ^^This is my thought, Doesn’t have Anything to do with this story…

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      Bigbadwolf says:

      Him not killing everyone in the house says a lot imo.
      ______________________

      I totally agree. You can say that he went over the edge, but he made the conscience decision to not harm his daughter or his mother. Then he was able to drive to a different place and then kill himself. He didn’t want his mother to see that.

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      free says:

      ninjarider_sb says: I was listening to the Tom Joyner morning show and this was one of their discussion topics. They also felt that the NFL should have cancelled or postponed the Kansas city game.

      ***************************

      the team actually voted to play. they did the right thing because they need to think of others involved in making the game happen as well. stadium workers, etc.

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      free says:

      <–Doesn't Talk To Strangers says: Was this couple “a couple” before the baby? Just curious. Does anybody know their dating history?

      *************************

      supposedly 3 years w/problems.

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      DoNotDeleteMe says:

      I have never met a man that have said, “I will never, ever hit a woman” that did not eventually hit a woman. :tea:

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      STLVixen says:

      This whole thing is so freaking sad. I don’t know the full story, but I dislike when people place blame on others or things to make themselves feel better about the situation. I pray for this baby who is now without both of her parents and to all both families who are both grieving.

      Mental illness needs to stop being taboo in the African American community.

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      ninjarider_sb says:

      This post is making me sad thinking about that little girl who will never know her parents. All she will know is what people tell her and whats out on the internet.

      Can we get a new post… maybe a RHOA recap so I can laugh at some of ya’lls comments?

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      AllNYC says:

      ninjarider_sb says:

      My mother always told me if you are gonna leave a man just leave. Don’t threaten to leave especially when it comes to child spport and custody issues. She said you never know what a person is capable of especially when it comes to money.
      =====================
      :cosgin: thought about this too…leave and let the courts handle it…all the back and forth is just a waste and we see the results

      =================================
      When women are making these threats, they are really trying to give their man the opportunity to make it right. When you are really fed up, you pull a Katie Holmes the second his car pulls out of the driveway. The next communication that dude gets is from an attorney.

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      LaJuliet says:

      @IntenseMocha…you are so on point this bastid does not deserve a bit of sympathy. I am sure that the level of domestic violence in this relationship will continue to trickle out as the story develops, and there will be those that continue to send condolences to this a**hole. Fugg him, not 2 weeks ago a friends daughter died in the same way. Google Donella Clauschee. @SandraRose, so if the theory is that this was caused by the single mother household that this man was brought up in, how do you explain those men brought in female headed households that do not kill? Your theory is a crock of ish.

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      NaijaGal says:

      :newpost: been up on Trina

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      MsB2u says:

      Have ya’ll noticed the ones that have never fathered or mothered a child a day in their lives always have the most to say about why child is a certain way

      by jeniefrumdabloc
      ___________________

      :cosign:

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      AllNYC says:

      I’m saying that little girl doesn’t need to hear a bunch of excuses for what her dad did to her mother. That is what moms tend to do for their sons.

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      goat76 says:

      @Kevin….not quite that big and fast, but I get what you’re saying.

      One of the problems is that some have been teaching and learning how to tackle the wrong way. No matter what you do you will still not get concussions out of a sport like this. Millions of ways to get concussions in football besides helmet to helmet contact.

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      KayCeiSoul says:

      lovezoe says:

      it makes me SICK when people blame the victim. Parents need time alone. im gone refrain fo I get banned

      ******************************************************

      :cosign: !!!

      While folks are always hollering about how a mother should be home with her children, a mother is ENTITLED to get out of the house for some time to breathe every now and then. And these weak azz mofo’s like ol’ boy who called himself a man always seem to get a pass by folks who don’t know shyt from shiolah but point the victim out as being the aggravator of a deadly situation, when in actuality this girl was more than likely simply going to a concert.

      Then to say how women use children to milk these dudes financially is just the worst stereotype ever. Granted, there are some gold diggers, but what about the bastids that want to control a bish because he got a baby with HER? SHE can’t go anywhere, HER friends can’t come over, EVERYTIME she opens the blinds it’s a problem.

      I call bullchyt. He was selfish, he was wrong, he did not have to kill her, if he was unhappy with his life he should have whacked his damn self and let her be.

      I don’t see mental illness. I see an orchestrated hit on her by him, and I see his ponk azz choosing to die rather than go to jail.

      This ain’t have shyt to do with the NFL.

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      luVn_liFe... says:

      I cant imagine . .
      And dayum Hs mother couldnt talk him off the ledge,Pray god have mercy on his soul.
      May Kasandra perkins Rest in Peace

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      INTENSEMOCHA THE ANTAGONIST says:

      AMEN KAYCEI!!

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      INTENSEMOCHA THE ANTAGONIST says:

      @LAJULIET

      MY PRAYERS TO YOU AND THE FAMILY, JUST READ THIS TRAJIC STORY, MAY SHE NOW RIP-AWFUL DUDE DOESN’T EVEN LOOK REMORSEFUL, TO SHOOT HER LIKE THAT IS SICKENING

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      trenee says:

      this is so sad. beautiful family. i’ll keep family and friends in prayer.

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