Carmax salesman

The father of an Ontario Carmax salesman who died during a test drive won't forgive the driver.

Warren Smale, 43, was a passenger in a high performance Corvette being driven by customer Alex Demetro, 28, when it crashed on Tuesday. Witnesses say the car was speeding in excess of 70 mph when it hit a tree.

Smale was rushed to an Ontario hospital, where he was pronounced dead.

Police say Demetro may have been under the influence of drugs at the time of the crash.

"There's no forgiveness. When you take drugs, you know what you're doing," Dennis Smale told ABC News affiliate KABC.

He said his son will be dearly missed by family and friends. "Fun, always knew what he wanted, always knew how to make you happy," Smale said.

Demetro was charged with vehicular manslaughter and felony suspicion of driving under the influence. He was later released on bail.

"It's a part of our job, the test drives," said co-worker Lydia Garrett. "I know Warren. He probably had no clue [that Demetro was impaired], I'm sure."

Broken glass and car parts still littered the crash site as friends gathered to remember Smale.

"That guy had no idea today would be his last day when he showed up to work today," said witness Paul Romo.

  • Empress

    I'm told that one has to be trained and have experience driving these cars and that these types of collisions are common even when alcohol is not involved. I think you should have to have an extra permit to drive cars of excess speed capability. I don't like these vehicles on the road anyway they belong on a race track. RIP Oh yeah and no one HAS to forgive, forgiveness is very overrated.

  • MILA

    In order for inner peace and healing you must forgive including forgiving yourself. & forgiving does not mean forgetting, but it is allowing yourself to take your power back and not let other people determine how you feel. Being angry is like drinking poison expecting the person you are angry at to be poisoned.

  • http://celebabout1.blogspot.com Filbert Kandege

    R.I.P

  • http://celebabout1.blogspot.com Filbert Kandege

    You are more than right, i am sure forgiving is the only thing that will give peace of mind...!!

  • http://totallifechanges.com/PurTEA VanillaCaramel2shotsExpresso

    Forgiveness may seem impossible at this time but in time I hope the Father is able to forgive. Forgiving isn't a betrayal to the one you lost but a release of anger, hurt, and sometimes hatred. It releases the grief over time too.

  • Just Keya

    This is so very sad. Hopefully one day, the father can forgive. But that is his choice and in his time.

  • iWasteTime

    Good Morning Roses.
    RIP Mr. Smale.

    Countinue to SIP Trayvon Martin

  • Yardgirl

    Your words are very powerful and I wish I could somehow get to that point where I can forgive and let things go. Alas I cannot, but I am copying your words and will try to strive for that inner peace because you are correct.

  • Yardgirl

    R.I.P.

  • MzFutureLCSW

    Shame. Addictive personalities are NO JOKE.

  • Mel

    I wouldn't forgive him either and to make matters worse the clown survived oh hells naw.

  • http://citygirlzen.blogspot.com/ missarewa

    So sad! May his soul rest in peace. It's still so soon to force forgiveness on his family but I pray that in due time they are able to find inner peace and let go. Tragic!

  • WetPntees

    What people fail to realize is if we do NOT forgive others, our Father will NOT forgive us!! The scales are unbalanced in this case..

  • Mel

    That's gonna take a very long time God forbid I lose my child because of someone else's stupidity Idk if I'll be able to forgive the person either?

  • MILA

    Forgiveness is a choice that someone makes when they are willing and ready to acknowledge their perception of a situation that triggers negative emotions and change it for healing, inner peace and happiness. Forgiveness is not accepting the wrong nor is it forgetting, etc. A lot of people don't know the truth definition of forgiveness hence why they don't realize that everyone can eventually forgive in all circumstances.

  • MILA

    then prepare to stay miserable forever.

  • Di Ana

    I can move on (of course it will take awhile because you've lost a loved one), but I wouldn't forgive.

  • http://citygirlzen.blogspot.com/ missarewa

    I agree. Hopefully his family can get there with time. It's not easy nor will it happen at the same time for everyone.

  • WetPntees

    Let all bitterness, and wrath, and anger, and clamor, and evil speaking, be put away from you, with all malice: and be ye kind one to another, tenderhearted, forgiving one another, even as God for Christ’s sake hath forgiven you” (Ephesians 4:26–27, 30–32).

  • MILA

    exactly.

  • MILA

    I am not religious, but I agree with this.

  • WetPntees

    I'm gonna pray for you child for you know not what you say, because that is a miserable spirit you are carrying...

  • MILA

    Thank you and I am happy that I was able to touch you in a positive way. I also struggle; we all do. It's a process, but as long as we continue to try to do better and be better that is what counts.

  • Auditor

    Amen

  • WetPntees

    +2K

  • Auditor

    YES! Cause that other person is NOT thinking about you!

  • MILA

    May I suggest something? Check out stories of parents who have forgiven their children's murderers by going to see them in prison, etc. Very powerful testimonies.

  • Saharabutnotdry

    Not me , nope .uncomprehensible

  • mzwhang90210

    So sad. How terrible for a parent to outlive a child too.
    People don't realize that sometimes forgiveness takes time...this just happened Tues ...I say let the dad have his genuine feelings for as long as he needs to experience them.
    Fix it Jesus!?

  • Put some Respeck on B.Sweet

    I agree forgiveness is not overnight. If it was, life would be a lot easier.

  • mzwhang90210

    Yup. And Gm?

  • It’s Taurus Season

    I'm told that one has to be trained and have experience driving these
    cars and that these types of collisions are common even when alcohol is
    not involved.
    ^^^^^^^^^^^
    They are dangerous. But you have to have common sense. My prior boss has a 'Vette. I would have to pull everyone who traveled for our department, their MVR every other year. HER ass has the CLEANEST driving record I've EVER seen.

    Prayers for this man. I cant imagine.

  • Put some Respeck on B.Sweet

    Why are you up so early? I'm hungry.

  • Saharabutnotdry

    I'm the forgiving and forgetting type but if you murder my child , I will live in hatred and bitterness until I die.

  • harley_quinn2.0

    That's terrible. The man's son died 3 days ago due to another parties reckless decision so it's hard to forgive quickly knowing the circumstance of his death. The wound is very much raw so forgiveness will take time. Prayers for the victim's family.

  • NYTimes#1Bestseller

    Forgiveness is never for the other party, it's for YOU,so YOU can sleep at night. Holding a grudge is like drinking poison expecting whom you loathe to suffer. Carrying bitterness only makes the carrier bitter.

  • mzwhang90210

    Going to the gym...then hospital...then work.
    Eat something delish for me....all I'm having is a smoothie?

  • It’s Taurus Season

    I been praying for yall Whang. GM sugar.

  • It’s Taurus Season

    Going to Mez with the old work crew for lunch! *dances my fat hungry ass in this cube*

  • mzwhang90210

    Thank you Dub????

  • Put some Respeck on B.Sweet

    I was never able to get into Mez. I tried. Remember when it first opened.

    I hope you enjoy your lunch.

  • http://Copblock.org aDingoDrankMyBabies

    I don't like how the media forces victims into propaganda like forgiveness...Those poor babies being told to tell that terrorist they forgave him for murdering their parents,,,in a church. You murdered my parents in a safe house, a holy house, but I forgive you, two days after the fact? I'll never forget that, and never forgive America for that. Then that Indian congress woman proclaiming on national tv that there was no bad blood. They "hugged it out". It hasn't even been a year? What would she know? She doesn't. Doesn't even care. Propaganda. Makes me wanna holler? Can't blame this man. Too damn soon. Too. Damn. Soon??

  • stav

    Now that's what I'm talking about, it's not always easy for imperfect humans to do , but we have to give our all to try and pray fervently to forgive.
    Look at all the things God forgives us for , if we are truly repentant. Great day to you!

  • Put some Respeck on B.Sweet

    I'll go to Zaxbys and get an order of french fries for you.

  • Readytochokemothernatureonout

    It's easier said than actually done despite being taught to do so when something happens. My heart totally goes out to Dad. Holding on to it consumes you but he's in no shape form or fashion ready to.....

  • WetPntees

    You just contradicted yourself hun, how can you be the forgiving and forgetting type yet once something tragic happens to you, you are unwilling to forgive? I guess it would be smart to pretty much edit or just delete your entire first statement of your sentence... *sneaks some holy water in your communion juice*

  • It’s Taurus Season

    Yeppers. I love Messican.

  • Put some Respeck on B.Sweet

    I agree this was to get the people going. Give that man some time.

  • Nonya Bizness

    My step brother had 2 of them at separate times, and he would take them to the racetrack in Vegas. I rode in one with him one time, on a normal highway, and that was the last time. I agree, they don't belong on the road for everyday driving.

  • Saharabutnotdry

    I won't , I said when it comes to my child , I really don't think I can forgive. Very simple.

  • Readytochokemothernatureonout

    Hugssssssssssssssssssssssssss

  • WetPntees

    I agree, forgiving does take time. It depends solely upon the situation and the parties involved. You never know a persons mental state during such a tragic event, yet it lies deep within your soul as well. If you are and have ALWAYS been one to forgive, it will come easily to you; however if that is something a person has always struggled with then it will take as much time as needed for that individual. My prayers go out to ALL parties involved because i'm sure Demetro is not sitting in jail leaping for joy. Everyone lost in this situation..

  • http://Copblock.org aDingoDrankMyBabies

    Right. It's not about him. It's to appease the viewer. They never let victims heal. Because they don't care. All about a story. The college students protesting, that refused media request, exposed the media for exactly what they are! The students knew they weren't there for them...And the media showed their true colors...Called them brats, dumb, said they wouldn't win without the coverage...How fricken pretentious?

  • Put some Respeck on B.Sweet

    I do too I just can't get with Mez. lol. I need to figure out somewhere good to get lunch today. Just went out yesterday but feel like since it's Friday, I should have something else.

  • Readytochokemothernatureonout

    I went through a horrific nightmare and I haven't forgiven whomever yet this is why I know it's easier said than done. I was able to let go of it and not dwell on it but that was some bs.

  • PettyEyezPrime

    Morning Roses! RIP to the lives lost and blessings to this man. He has to heal and forgive on his on time. He needs to get through whatever emotions he has in his own time. This JUST happened. I don't know ONE person who loves and cares for someone (especially a child) and gets over their death in days. I would be shocked and scared if they did.

    It's Friday and the weekend's here!!*zhane*

  • WetPntees

    I said when something tragic happens to you, meaning losing your child. I completely understand where you are coming from, I am not in ANY place to judge or throw stones because my house is made of glass as well. I'm just merely saying that you implied one thing and then said the opposite. It just sounded a little hypocritical. But forgiving IS simple, if you make it simple.. No harm intended in my comment to you Sahara.

  • WetPntees

    I'm very glad that in time you were able to let go of the power that whomever held over you by not forgiving. I pray that all is well with you now in whatever happened. Stay strong shuga..

  • Low E. {CIRCA 1908}

    ***

  • Readytochokemothernatureonout

    Thanks it is ? and I am.

  • WetPntees

    Thank you stav. And great day to you as well. Enjoy your weekend hun..

  • Put some Respeck on B.Sweet

    People have to take some responsibility for their actions. When I was learning to drive I was taught to be responsible. People get in accidents probably because they're being foolish or trying to show these cars off. I've been in cars that aren't street legal before and I've driven 'vettes... totally different vehicles.

  • Low E. {CIRCA 1908}

    ONE OF THE HARDEST THINGS TO DEAL WITH IS ACCEPTING AN APOLOGY YOU KNOW YOU'LL NEVER EVER GET...I KNOW I'M IN MY FEELINGS FOR PLENTY A MANY OF REASONS RIGHT NOW...

  • Readytochokemothernatureonout

    Hugssssssssssssssssssssssssss

  • WetPntees

    Sprinkling some *Lord have mercy dust* on ya...

  • mela.reign77

    Such a sad story , praying for his family and friends.

  • Saharabutnotdry

    I do understand why you would think my statement is hypocritical ..Again , I m saying I "wouldn't " be capable of forgiveness but we never really know what we are capable of until tragedy strikes .
    I respect your pov , I didn't think it was harmful at all , we are just discussing :-)
    Happy Friday Wet (lol)

  • Put some Respeck on B.Sweet

    You better be scared because some ish is probably about to pop off.

  • WetPntees

    Same to you Sahara lol

  • Low E. {CIRCA 1908}

    ...I SPY A NAME CHANGE

  • http://totallifechanges.com/PurTEA VanillaCaramel2shotsExpresso

    The Lord's Prayer spells it out Amen! Yet it can still seem impossible and unrealistic in some cases. It still is the most unselfish gift you can give yourself, forgiveness is truly freedom.

  • http://www.pureromance.com LA

    HE will always forgive us!!! God is a forgiving God..

  • Readytochokemothernatureonout

    Yes I was baking a cake and having flashes whilst doing so and was moved to change it lol.

  • Low E. {CIRCA 1908}

    I THINK I READ SOME COMMENTS ABOUT MAMA'S BOYS AND HOW THESE MAMAS STAN FOR ALL THEIR SONS' BS...IT'S SO VERY TRUE. THE MIL'S AIN'T CHIT.

  • It’s Taurus Season

    Now that I am white I am changing mine in a minute. Right after this call.

  • Low E. {CIRCA 1908}

    LET THE AROMAS OF THE OVEN SAY "AMEN"

  • Low E. {CIRCA 1908}

    ***

  • stav

    Likewise, Thank you!

  • Readytochokemothernatureonout

    Lol

  • MotherOfDragons, GetOffMyENuts

    I'm ready to choke her out too...let's jump her.

  • Readytochokemothernatureonout

    That ish is no joke I was ready to find her or even Eve and take them out. What we have to endure.....

  • http://Copblock.org aDingoDrankMyBabies

    A bit of irony. Mr. Smale was one of those American flag waving, bible thumping, conservative Christians. So, maybe his family has no choice in this. They're always telling us to abide by the word...Hypocritical if they themselves dont??

  • Low E. {CIRCA 1908}

    I'M REMINDED EVERY TIME THIS INCISION STARTS TO ITCH...WE HERE.

  • Readytochokemothernatureonout

    Yes let's after you have the beautiful new addition. Until then I'll get her for allllllllll of us.

  • Readytochokemothernatureonout

    My first one was a c section I know too well....

  • PettyEyezPrime

    THIS! When something happens and someone is calm, all hell is about to break loose!! Ask me how I know.

  • PettyEyezPrime

    Wait, these name changes. Tell me in morse code who you is. Telepathy is an option as well ?

  • It’s Taurus Season

    Its ME. You dont know meh?

  • It’s Taurus Season

    New post. Workplace killing

  • T3

    I struggled BAD for a long time with forgiving. I'm much better now but not totally. The thing that helped me most was learning that God will take forgive me if I don't forgive others. And nobody is worth going to hell for. It's definitely a struggle though. Just like it was said up top, we don't have to forget. Forgive them and release them if you must.

  • WetPntees

    Matthew 6:15

    15 But if you do not forgive others their sins, your Father will not forgive your sins.

    Try AGAIN LA!!! I KNOW my word.....

  • http://Copblock.org aDingoDrankMyBabies

    I'm the artist formerly known as Redeemed?? jdhdjdhdhdkdjdjhdhdhdjdhsh?? me praying for ya?

  • Jusstlookn

    Yall have a good one and love one another and give a smile to at least 1 person you don't.

    Have a blessed day

  • Empress

    I respectfully disagree. Being angry and not forgiving is not the same thing. The idea of forgiveness is a tool to create complacency within the dominated by those who dominate. It goes hand in hand with "turning the other cheek". It has been bred into our people as a tool of colonialism. As soon as someone commits an atrocity against people of color one of the first things we do is say we forgive the offender sometimes even before the dead body is cold. There is no forgiveness without atonement. And when one forgives he/she releases the offender from the obligation of ceasing their foul behavior. Also the person who has "forgiven" has already had their emotions affected by the offender so I cannot I agree that you take back control by forgiving. If someone slaps the taste out of your mouth and then you say "I forgive you", how does that decrease your pain. I don't forgive anyone for anything they themselves never seek forgiveness for nor for behavior that I can clearly see they will continue to do.

  • Low E. {CIRCA 1908}

    PO' TINK...

  • n1kk1a

    "When you take drugs, you know what you're doing."

    Idk about that. But still sad all the same.

  • http://sandrarose.com SandraRose

    I read where one Chevrolet dealership requires potential buyers to purchase the Corvette before taking it on a test drive. other dealerships require a credit check and proof of insurance before going on a test drive in a Corvette.

  • http://sandrarose.com SandraRose

    The guy took the Corvette and the salesman for a joy ride. Running credit checks before test drives will disqualify the idiots who want to take joy rides in high performance vehicles.

  • Yardgirl

    Amen!

  • PettyEyezPrime

    ? I.CAN.NOT ?

  • Empress

    It's confusing because people use the Bible, which has been altered too many times to count, to justify just about anything they choose. God is vengeful. God is forgiving. Which is it? Are we sure we are all serving the same God? Because the God of my enemy would surely be a Devil to me.

  • http://batman-news.com Roderick2011

    So was the salesman so anxious to make a sale that he overlooked some signs of impairment?

    If so then the father needs to back the hell off.

    I understand he is in the first stages of grief but people need to watch the words they put into the universe.

  • Unita Lucinda “Lucy” Freebush

    Wayment. Now who...

  • Unita Lucinda “Lucy” Freebush

    Awww. Woo woo woo. Such a Kumbaya moment on the blog for once ?

  • Paige

    I watched a special recently documenting a mother visiting her sons killer. They have become very close and he calls her mom. Very powerful. Takes a very strong person to do this. I don't know if I could.

  • Fendi

    Thank you.

  • LeBrick James

    So when you take drugs, you don't know what you're doing?

  • LeBrick James

    This might not be the best time to show your contempt for bible believing conservative Christians. An innocent man is dead. Maybe you can restrain yourself a little bit.

  • Fendi

    The victim's son JUST lost his father to an avoidable, senseless act. Of course he is angry. I'm angry, and I never knew the man. It is one thing to have no regard for your own life and welfare, but when your irresponsibility costs another person their life, there's no excusing your actions.

    Death is final. I'm sure the victim's son didn't expect to lose his father in such a way, so soon. My prayers go out to the victim's family. May justice be served.

  • http://sandrarose.com SandraRose

    I think he meant afterward. When you're under the influence.

  • n1kk1a

    Thank you!?

  • http://Copblock.org aDingoDrankMyBabies

    I'm free to do as I please?? You may scare your neighborhood children with your large frame and supremacy like bravado, but you put no fear in my heart??

  • Li

    The car dealers are going to stop giving test drives. On on the one hand, the test driver - customer - steals the car (that happened) and on the other hand, they speed and kill the passenger.
    The dealers are going to set up an indoor track and let the customers test drive the car indoors....I know it's coming.

  • mzwhang90210

    Deep?

  • http://www.pureromance.com LA

    Okay...

  • MILA

    you don't understand the true meaning of forgiveness. you have a skewed understanding. i invite you to read the chapter on forgiveness in the book Houses of Healing. I used to think similarly to you until i educated myself. good luck

  • <—Doesn'tTalkToStrangers

    She is the Blawg Runner and a Leader :D

  • QuirkyQwerty

    Thank you for your post.

  • PettyEyezPrime

    I figured it out when she told Yoni to play the intimidated role to HR about her stalker boss lol. Everybody else #clueless #nostaceydash #shemusthavebeenabductedbyaliens? #shedontbelieveherownself #okimdone

  • <—Doesn'tTalkToStrangers

    :wail:

  • PettyEyezPrime

    This is me b4 alcohol lol

  • Angela Flowers

    How do people truly forgive though? I mean I know it's more than simply saying I forgive you.

  • http://www.pureromance.com LA

    It is confusing sometimes.. That's why is takes more than quoting and knowing the word....

  • Alisa

    What's crazy is anyone can test drive a car. As long as you have a valid license, car salesmen make money when they make sales. Maybe if they had video/audio cameras it could help. You don't know if the salesman was hyping him up Like saying Go for it or Give it some speed? I have been hyped up while test driving a car. I told him I know how fast the car can go. Purchased it too a 300ZX burgundy wrecked it less than a month later. Route 301 I has hit head on by a drunk driver I was not speeding I was going about 40mph she was going about 75. My car had digital speed reading I remember damn Poor Righteous Teachers cassette was still playing "Rock this funky joint"

  • MILA

    Most of us don't make the choice to forgive others because we don't really understand what forgiveness means... Not to forgive is to be imprisoned by the past, by old grievances that do not permit life to proceed with new business. Not to forgive is to yield oneself to another's control... Forgiveness frees the forgiver... People often hold the thought that if they forgive someone, they are doing the person they've been angry at a favour - not realizing that forgiveness is, first and foremost, a favour one does for oneself... True forgiveness is actually what strengthens us... To forgive is not to condone negative, hurtful and insensitive behaviour. By forgiving you are not saying that what a person did is okay or acceptable... Forgiveness is not forgetting... Forgiveness is a choice and decision to see beyond the reactive judgments of our ego. It is the willingness to recognize that a person’s insensitive or negative behavior is an expression of his/her separation from Self… Underlying most negative or insensitive behaviour is a call for respect, help, acknowledgement, emotional safety, and love... Forgiveness is not about what we do, it is about the way we perceive people and circumstances… Forgiveness teaches us that under behavior that appears heartless there is a heart… Forgiveness implies a willingness to accept responsibility for our perceptions, realizing that our perceptions are a choice and not an objective fact… Forgiveness is not forgiving the act, but the people… As you change your perceptions, your emotional reactions change as well.

    Forgiveness doesn’t require you to change your behavior. In other words, you don’t need to have any interaction with the person you forgive; you don’t even have to tell them that you have forgiven them because forgiveness is for you and not for them. E.g. just because you have forgiven someone who broke your trust does not mean you have to ever trust that person again, just because you have forgiven a boyfriend or a girlfriend does not mean you have to stay in the relationship because the priority is taking care of yourself and keeping yourself out of harms way.
    - Houses of Healing Chap 13

    I hope this helps. Feel free to ask any questions.

  • Layla Leone

    Wow that's sad