Ila Adu

Spelman College alumni are outraged at the historically black all-women college changing its admission policy to exclude biological women for the first time in the school’s history.

Spelman College, which is part of the Atlanta University Center, has announced it will ban biological females who identify as men.

The formerly all-women college is opening its doors to gender confused males for the first time in history.

In a letter sent out to students on Tuesday, President Mary Schmidt Campbell announced that the school will admit gender confused men in 2018.

The letter notes that “Spelman does not admit male students, including students who self-identify and live consistently as men, regardless of gender assignment at birth.”

This means butch lesbian women who “live as men” are not welcome at Spelman College, even though they have vaginas. How does excluding biological women help to empower women? Why would anyone want to send their young daughters to such a backward thinking college?

Read the entire letter here.

Campbell’s new policy would exclude the daughters of singers R. Kelly and SadeIla Adu and Jay Kelly — both of whom now live as men.

People who are intolerant of gender confused men are branded “homophobic”. What is it called when an entire school is intolerant of gender confused women?

What is the difference between a man who is gender confused and a woman who is gender confused?

Apparently, Campbell and the politically correct staff at Spelman College believe there is a big difference as they proceed to protect the delicate snowflake students from women who are considered a threat.

Why is Spelman tolerant of gender confused males while rejecting gender confused women?

It seems that Spelman College — a historically black college for women, has forgotten its mission to empower and educate WOMEN — that means biological women who think they are men.

Campbell needs to be reminded that gender confused women are still biological females who deserve empathy, understanding and an education.

Shame on you, Ms. Campbell. Do better!





  • https://vidozz.com/cyq ? King Kari ?????????

    What? Excuse me, either your a man or woman, but don’t pull the cry card when you don’t get what you want.

  • DaughterOfaQueen

    Oh well…make your mind up, if you wanna be a dude take your ass round the corner and down the street to Morehouse. I’m sure they’ll be glad you came?

  • Lovely1

    “Can’t have it both ways.” Sounds like this is the what the President is trying to get across.

  • Elevated Soul

    Good for Spelman!!!

    Old girl is running around trying to act like she is a man,so why didn’t she apply at More-House? Could it be that the “sane” part of her knows she is a woman?

  • Mama Dee’s Wig Maker

    If they identify as a man and live like one, shouldn’t they apply to Morehouse? Or just go to Clark…it’s right beside Spelman and Morehouse.

  • Unknown User

    Pick a side and stick to it. You can’t benefit off the allowances of both. I’m all for fighting for trans rights, but extra rights? No ma’am.

  • Dowoop

    Thats exactly what it is.

  • Mr.LeBrickJames

    Makes sense to me. You cant have it both ways.
    Cant self identify as a man then want to go to a women’s college. Pick a side.

  • Wreckognize Game

    This would be a fox in the henhouse story. She would be eating good in there. ?

  • Kimberly King

    I’ll be glad when this phase ends. Seems like everybody wants to be trans these days.

  • Mojo2

    What? Pick a side, and get off the fence.

  • Nina Ross

    Mentally ill people shouldn’t be admitted.

  • T3

    My sentiments exactly! Does gender have the right to go back and forth when it’s convenient?!?? I don’t understand why someone who by their own choice wants to identify as a man would want to go to an all girl school?

  • ThottyPippen

    Looks like Derrick Rose.

  • Mojo2

    let’s all just say we are transgender and cut through all this nonsense.

  • Yoni7

    I’m glad they are taking a stand.

    I would love to identify as wealthy and reap the benefits.

  • Anunnaki

    Cause they not confused at all , just seeking attention. They know what they are. But it’s like the norm now. I don’t buy al these gender confused people.

  • Scromes1212

    So someone who was born a man but identifies as a woman can get in but not a woman that identifies as man but was born a woman? I’m trying to figure this out. This is a difficult situation

  • Yoni7

    I was thinking the she/he looks like the little “brother” of a cross between Maxwell and Nelly. LOL

  • http://thedevereauxshow.com/ Ms.Devereaux

    But what she is saying is they will allow MEN to attend who identify as women! So now men will be going to the school this is a dam mess!!! This is what not happens when you open that flood gate all types of bs come pouring in !! Can’t wait for a bisexual man who indentifies as a woman to get just wait and see what happens smh

  • MissHarlem

    Makes perfect sense to me. Live like a true man if that’s what you decided to be ??

  • http://thedevereauxshow.com/ Ms.Devereaux

    That’s exactly what is being said and everybody gone be confused when trying to cater to confused folks! This is what happens a bunch of confusion

  • Yoni7

    I was going off of THIS line.

    “Spelman College, which is part of the Atlanta University Center, has announced it will ban biological females who identify as men.”

    I’m just now seeing THIS contradiction…..

    “The formerly all-women college is opening its doors to gender confused males for the first time in history.”

    As well as THIS contradiction….

    “Spelman does not admit male students, including students who self-identify and live consistently as men, regardless of gender assignment at birth.”

    NOW I’M confused.

  • JV

    This reminds me of the high school girl wrestler who was transitioning using testosterone injections and won the Texas women’s championship. She wanted to wrestle the boys, but the rules said she had to wrestle girls.

    http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2017/02/27/517491492/17-year-old-transgender-boy-wins-texas-girls-wrestling-championship

  • JV

    I feel bad for the girls who had to wrestle her. She was more ‘roided up than Roger Clemens.

  • Pamela

    An alumni of Clark here. I say they should go to Morehouse, they will fit right in.

  • Scromes1212

    That’s what makes these situations weird, cause how do you tell a person born a man he can’t run track against girls if your saying that the person is really a girl? It’s confusing.

  • Quitedeliteful

    If you want to walk like a man, talk like a man, look like a man, act like a man and take hormones to look as manly as possible why all the fuss about not getting into a woman’s college? Apply at Moorehouse…

  • datATLboi

    I actually agree with this. It’s a HUGE difference between a stud (masc acting female) and a person who identifies as a MAN. Spelman is for WOMEN. The same thing goes if they were to try to apply at Hooters lol

  • Scromes1212

    This is the contradiction in the trans community. It’s like the elephant that never leaves the room smh

  • Rayne

    All this mess is ?CONFUSING!!!!!

  • morenYAHdelsur

    Soooooooooooooooooo

    CONFUSING

  • Justlooknout
  • Elle

    Okay?!

  • JV

    I don’t really see the difference. Either way, it’s pretending/assuming another gender identity.

  • Complete822

    I’m confused.

  • datATLboi

    there is a big difference. You don’t take hormones and start looking like a man when you are a stud. You don’t contemplate changing your genitalia. My friend’s barber is a stud and she definitely enjoys being a woman

  • JV

    Kinda, yeah.

  • Blue

    I read the write up 3 times and I’m still ? But let a boycott hit them pockets. Spelman will change that tune real quick

  • JV

    OK, I think I misunderstood what you said.

  • http://thedevereauxshow.com/ Ms.Devereaux

    Exactly everybody gone be confused Because they are trying to cater to confused ppl

  • chris

    I’m a wizard I’m going to hogwarts

  • Diva4lyfe

    This makes no sense at all and the one who changed the policy need a reality check.

  • Peter Piper ATL

    LOL, Sandra, you’re using the same logic, in reverse, that you’re railing against Spellman for.

    I could agree with you Sandra if your opinion wasn’t so obviously slanted against men who live as women. I don’t agree with discrimination for the sake of discrimination. One group shouldn’t be lifted at the expense of another.

    But I also don’t think Spellman should go co-ed. However, I think I understand the school’s logic here. I have no doubt that Spellman knows that opening its doors to women who live as men and date women is opening the door to a lot more of the gender confusion you’re referring to and also a lot of drama because everybody knows that bulldaggers can be a big ole mess and women can turn nasty when cheated on. Inviting trans men would be like a free for all for them.

    Men living as women aren’t gonna be chasing skirts on that campus, and I think everybody knows that.

    But this is complicated. I’m just glad I don’t have to run Spellman.

  • MythCalledLove

    Oh noooo this is a result of what happens when you want your cake and eat it too. You want to be a man you want to be a woman?? Expect us to see this as a mental illness?? Large majority of society backs this and wants it to be accepted. Damn right you won’t go to Spelman we have always been this way. You take what you give. You give us your a man/woman B.S. then so you shall be. You can’t bully this world to accept A LIE. If Spelman accepts this I will not donate another dime and they will lose alumni support and the historical legacy of Spelman will be ruined. The shame is on those that bully us into accepting this. Shame on you for trying to make excuses by claiming this is the remedy for treating what you call mental illness.

  • klwbaby

    I’m confused. So will spelman admit a male who is transgender and had the reassignment surgery but they won’t admit a biological female because she displays masculine characteristics and traits?

  • http://sandrarose.com SandraRose

    Sade Adu’s daughter is living as a man. So she would not be welcome to attend Spelman College, since Spelman College does not admit men. In other words, Spelman College is helping to erase women by pushing the false narrative that gender confused men are women.

  • MzApple

    She resembles Blac Chyna’s new boo Meechie

  • Coy little wink

    Chile…nowhere it it stated that Sade’s child even applied…so what the fukk is this post getting at…oh yea NOTHING

  • http://sandrarose.com SandraRose

    So women who identify as men can’t get an education at Spelman?

  • http://sandrarose.com SandraRose

    There is no difference. Both are women with vaginas. Are you saying school policy should be based on what people think?

  • Blue

    Thank you, Aunty. #UnConfusedMe.

  • Ni Ni

    I’m gone sit back and read the comments. It dont take much to get my @zz confused ?.

  • http://sandrarose.com SandraRose

    So you think it’s okay for a 25-year-old MAN with a penis to attend Spelman and use the restroom with someone’s18-year-old daughter?

  • http://sandrarose.com SandraRose

    A gender confused male is a biological MAN. A gender confused woman is a biological WOMAN. Spelman is banning the biological WOMAN. I hope this helps.

  • Prettybrowneyes

    ???

  • FOR COMMENT

    she was actually a beautiful girl. sad

  • Blue

    Lol

  • http://sandrarose.com SandraRose

    They see no problem with banning confused women from an all-girl college while allowing confused men to attend.

  • datATLboi

    BOTTOM LINE — MEN CAN’T GO TO SPELMAN — just because u r a little masculine you shouldn’t be excluded. you’re still a woman. Agnes Scott in GA has the same pre-qualifications. Same with Morehouse. Being a feminine male doesn’t stop you from attending and being accepted. You’re still a MALE.

  • http://sandrarose.com SandraRose

    So you’re saying that a biological woman with a vagina can’t go to Spelman just because she THINKS she’s a man?

  • datATLboi

    Spelman has always been for Women—if you want to be a Man be outraged if Morehouse won’t let you in. Don’t try to have Extra rights just equal rights

  • datATLboi

    If she thinks she’s a man then why apply to Spelman in the first place? Makes no sense

  • EMILY POST

    Should she be???? LGBTQLMNOP is taking everything waaaayyy to far…. This is why people was only for Civil Unions… because it dont take much for people to take it there… and go overboard.

  • http://sandrarose.com SandraRose

    Should confused men should be uplifted at a historically all-women college? That makes no sense to me. Why should a male be uplifted but not a woman when they both suffer from the same mental illness?

  • datATLboi

    If I THINK I’m a woman should I be allowed to compete with the women in sports or just waltz into the female restrooms….da fuqq smh BE ONE OR THE OTHER

  • http://sandrarose.com SandraRose

    So you think a woman who suffers from a mental illness should be excluded from attending Spelman?

  • http://sandrarose.com SandraRose

    That’s my point. Men who THINK they are women should not be allowed to attend Spelman. Or the college should simply change its policy to a co-ed college.

  • Quitedeliteful

    LGBTQLMNOP …
    =======================
    LOLLOLLOLLOL!!!

  • http://sandrarose.com SandraRose

    For the same reason that a man who thinks he’s a woman applies. Just because she thinks she’s a man doesn’t make her a man. She is still a woman.

  • imright

    “she” wanted the world to recognize her as a man right ?? ????? so they are. the LGBT community has been gettin on my nerves lately???

  • http://sandrarose.com SandraRose

    Spelman is admitting men who still have a penis. The question was asked “where will they sleep?” and the answer is the college will decide sleeping arrangements for the males “on a case-by-case basis.”

  • BlahBlahBlah

    Never knew Sade had a last name

  • Renee26

    Wouldn’t they want to attend Morehouse instead anyway??

  • Cricket404

    I’m hearing from the Spelman girls that they’ve been letting men in with peniss, now it’s official. Issa switch with Morehouse maybe? Now the little ninja’s get to go to Morehouse (in my 50 cent voice).

  • Rayne

    Lmao

  • MissHarlem

    wth you get that assessment from my comment?!! That doesn’t even make sense when I’m CLEARLY stating when you decide to live like a man you should expect to be treated as such. Which would mean I don’t agree with a man or one who believes to be one attending an all women college ?? which also means I don’t agree with a 45 yr old man in a woman’s bathroom. ?

  • http://sandrarose.com SandraRose

    I’m using her as an example of a female-to-trans who not be admitted to Spelman because Spelman considers her to be a biological man.

  • sunni_daze

    Pick a gender and stick to it. No flipping when it fits, no ladies free before midnight. You pay 20 like the dudes.

  • http://batman-news.com Roderick2011

    JV: She was more ‘roided up than Roger Clemens.

    *dead*

  • http://sandrarose.com SandraRose

    Do you agree that a man with a penis is still a man? Spelman is admitting men with penises into the college.

  • klwbaby

    I would assume they will sleep in a single person dorm room but they will still have to use the same bathroom, right?

  • EMILY POST

    I feel sorry for the parents who wanted their daughters to go to a healthy positive environment without any distractions… If you letting all that foolery in you might as well just let males go….
    I am all for doing what you want but when your sexuality/issues start to include others thats where I am like Hell No… I vote no on all their legislation because they dont know how to fall back. When the courts start making policies from what goes on in the bedroom.

  • http://sandrarose.com SandraRose

    Then Spelman should stop calling itself an all-women’s college. This is ridiculous.

  • http://sandrarose.com SandraRose

    I doubt Spelman has single room dorms to accommodate an influx of men. Maybe the male-to-trans can dorm in a a room together?

  • EMILY POST

    Why is this woman mental issues societies problem?

  • http://sandrarose.com SandraRose

    If my daughter was a student at college, I would question the school administration’s judgment. Either Spelman is an all-women’s college or it isn’t.

  • abby500

    Can’t have it both ways.

  • Lady

    If you identify as a man then why apply to an all girls college? If your a man then go to a coed college. You can’t blur the lines at your convenience.

  • http://sandrarose.com SandraRose

    I’m using Ila Adu as an example of a biological female who is banned from attending Spelman.

  • abby500

    That’s the most important piece of the entire article! Fugg all that other mess.

  • MissHarlem

    I keep saying I don’t agree with a man or one acting as one admitted to an all women’s college. Them accepting men with real dcks is another issue that’s not at the forefront of this post or topic. An addendum but not the main topic. Again I don’t agree with the main topic nor the footnote of the topic. Real pussy only.

  • http://sandrarose.com SandraRose

    The point that I am making is Ila Sadu is NOT a man. She is a biological woman with a mental disorder. Women like her are now banned from attending Spelman.

  • Coy little wink

    They are treating people how they want to be treated…what is the problem?

    This person is irrelevant…show me a pic of the female to male trans who applied but has been denied and has an issue with it and I will show you a hypocrite

  • klwbaby

    I guess..

  • http://sandrarose.com SandraRose

    And what about the bio women who don’t want to share restrooms or dorm rooms with a biological male? Why should they be treated differently than what they’ve been accustomed to?

  • Coy little wink

    Focus hun…the example pictured is not supporting your argument

  • WutizaGRANNY!

    Real question is….Fukk gwanzan in the Kells house that they seen that made them say..”If thats what a woman have to do for a man or be treated like that by a man..biiiyyytch sign me up for a dyck!!”
    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/9eb2b76e506e38d5072dd1cf3ad262774eb5ffcb7856de93eefa3205f33fbcb1.gif

  • Guess Who

    Sandra, I agree! She is a female. No need to say biological because you either are or not and that is determined in utero. But here’s the deal…these trannies can’t play both sides of the fence whenever it’s convenient for them. You identify with being a man but want to go to an all female university? Really?

  • Malai

    No SIR! U and your strap on exit stage left please ???

    I’m so sick of this confusing BS!

    U either IS or u AINT! Pick one! Not straddle the fence!

  • SDot

    See this confuses me. You go thru hellz to be a transgender and now you want to be at a women college. they say No and now you start drama. Plus I KNOW for a fact they would not say no. I went to Clark and took classes at Morehouse. So looks like we want to be seen and fame.

  • Guess Who

    LOL..we don’t always agree, Emily but 100% co-sign! While we’re at it…why are there constantly exceptions being made for trannies and why is society basically being FORCED to accept it as “normal”?

  • Harley

    This is disgusting. These people have a mental illness and should be treated as such

  • Noirluv45

    Why are they allowing men into an all-women’s college? I’m confused. Why aren’t they going to Morehouse?

  • http://sandrarose.com SandraRose

    Yet transgenders make no exceptions for biological women.

  • Tink Tink

    I don’t think they want to go to an all girl’s school for women empowerment, I thinks it’s more so for the “buffet” of sushi

  • EMILY POST

    It gets even worse when it comes to insurance and how far the government goes to help them cover up this masquerade. Changing official forms changing documentation to try to fool people. Its a disgrace the Fraud LGBTQNLOP is getting away with

  • Guess Who

    I don’t see how trannies do it.

    Seriously, their entire existence is based off of confusion. We all sitting up here scratching our heads like WTF about this entire thing. I couldn’t imagine going through life KNOWING i am one thing but mentally I feel I am something else. NO way on earth folks like that are happy with a clear mind.

  • Noirluv45

    Here, here! Lol! S/N: I’ve always been confused as to why some lesbians use strap-on’s?

  • Guess Who

    NONE whatsoever and actually try making women feel BAD about genetically being female. WTF. Genetically female, with a clear mind and happy with oneself. Trannies cannot relate and never will.

  • Mischelle

    Well, she made her choice and now has to deal with the consequences. She doesn’t identify as female so she shouldn’t be accepted into an all female institution. Sorry bra, try Morehouse.

  • Malai

    Lmao dudeee! Idk!! Like wouldn’t the fem’s get tired of that?! Ain’t nothin like the real thing hunny! I had saw a picture of a stud and she had her strap-on ON at the CLUB. U could see the bulge thru her skinny jeans and I’m like are u fuckin serious right now ???

  • EMILY POST

    The only institution we need to be supporting is the Mental Institution…
    This is what comes along with bad policy and supporting Foolery…. because Hollywood tells you too and somebody does a commercial on Bullying.

  • Mischelle

    It’s really a thin line. They want us to respect their gender decisions and when we do, all hell breaks loose. I bet she’d get upset if someone referred to her as “she/ma’am” etc. what’s the problem?

  • Lorenzo Chaps

    What?

  • Phillybruh

    I’m not sure I see the issue your trying to point out. They live and Identify as men so they should not be at an all girls school. However, I don’t see how they can deny a qualifying male to female student without facing a lawsuit.

  • Willette Capers

    He is not banned from attending Spelman. He identifies as male therefore would not be admitted. it is an all-women institution. Should he choose to identify as female, he would then be admitted. He banned himself, not Spelman.

  • Willetta

    http://www.theroot.com/spelman-changes-admissions-policy-will-admit-transgend-1800730073

    Spelman College, a Historically Black College whose mission is to serve high-achieving black women, will consider for admission women students including students who consistently live and self-identify as women, regardless of their gender assignment at birth. Spelman does not admit male students, including students who self-identify and live consistently as men, regardless of gender assignment at birth. If a woman is admitted and transitions to male while a student at Spelman, the college will permit that student to continue to matriculate at and graduate from Spelman.

  • Phillybruh

    Anybody can change a government form for a fee.

  • Ms.Vanilla

    Devilment. Nothing but pure evil, confusion, and sin. And people continue to defend this abomination.

  • EMILY POST

    Wow if I go and tape down my breast and buy some Levis and cut my hair and go to the adult store and buy a fake Penis…….. I too can now be a man .. .. Thats all it takes.. LOL Theater at its best.

  • Noirluv45

    Lawd, that visual!! ?? “Ain’t nothin like the real thing hunny!” You better say that again!

  • Phillybruh

    It also involves at least two years of counseling before they even advise you to start living as a man.

  • Phillybruh

    They seem happy we seem to be the ones to be so pressed and upset about a decision another person made for their lives.

  • LuLu

    Thank you! It seems all of them want the best of both worlds. NOPE!

  • hottlanta

    I ain’t boiling collard greens in one pot and a strap on in another pot talking bout I am cleaning it. No ma am.

  • Malai

    HILARIOUS ??

  • You Could Never

    Same thing going on in Cher house.

  • hottlanta

    She looks like Nelly. That is why I do the bump, quick brush up against them I am going to fall when I meet someone I am interested in someone to see is it real.

  • Guess Who

    Nah…they seem pressed to make folks accept their mental illness as normal….or to try making women feel bad about being women and not imposters.

    Lil kim bleaches her skin, wears blonde weave, blue contact lenses and she gets DRAGGED by her lacefront netting. Called a sellout. Maybe she feels she is transracial. Why is that not ok but a MAN trying to impersonate a woman (or vise versa) should be celebrated and the masses should give them props for being “brave”? lol…foh. The only thing I would suggest for them is to see if their employer has an Employee Assistance Program for that confuzzled mind,lol.

  • EMILY POST

    Counseling… lol
    All you need is to request it in my state you can get everything changed. Even your birth certificate.

  • rayne215

    Y’all letting Sandra confuse y’all, sade daughter is not trying to go to spellman she using her as an example
    But the hate y’all have for transgender in here would make Trump proud

  • Nancy Drew-Natural & Luv’n It!

    Lord forgive me…. I’m not insensitive to these confused young people, but I can’t do it today…. NONE OF US get what we want ALL the time. If your education is THE priority here, enroll at the next school on your list that’s willing to accept you. And, Spelman sounds just as confused if they’re accepting either side of the confused population while rejecting the other. Good grief!

  • Phillybruh

    No you can’t. You have to go through mandated counseling. You can not get your birth certificate changed until you have completed.

  • Noirluv45

    I just died and went to glory! ?? You know!

  • Nancy Drew-Natural & Luv’n It!
  • Phillybruh

    See upset and pressed about nothing that pertains to you personally. It doesn’t mess with my money so I could care less.

  • Jackie

    that’s not true. didn’t Bruce jenner get his legal docs to say he’s a she before he had his dick (allegedly) cut off?

  • Phillybruh

    Birth Certificate will not be changed until you have completed the process, I have a vet who recently completed the whole process and he was able to change everything but that.

  • Guess Who

    Oh I see…love the tactic, doesn’t work but I like that you tried it, pumpkin.

    I personally DGAF about them or what they stand for however if its brought up (like this post) about how they want exceptions to be made exclusively to them, comments will come. Funny how you bypass that part…

    Has nothing to do with messing with money. Why do folks always say that when they lowkey accepting of certain things? LOL…ok.

  • Rayne

    I might be lesbun too cause good gawd Bria Myles oooh wee . Her skin and her body is everything.

  • MocaPretty

    I agree with Spelman bc if Ila wants to identify as a male then do not attempt to go to a college that is identified as a FEMALE school. Apply to Morehouse since you want to identify with men.

  • Justlooknout
  • Phillybruh

    But they don’t want exceptions. Sandra used two examples to get you all worked up. Spellman is an all girls school if you identify as a male, their should be no arguing why you didn’t get in.

  • Phillybruh

    Right….lol

  • stav

    It’s unnatural , and goes against what GOD loves, I’m going to agree with the Almighty!

  • Rachel

    Mental Illness is no joke.

  • Look@m3

    Say that again…I swear if I could say I’m white and enjoy white privilege I would!

  • MissHarlem

    I hate repeating myself when I’m clear and blunt. Furthermore I hate deviating from a point just to get your perspective across ? like ugh

  • Guess Who

    Philly…what makes you think I am worked up? Did I cuss? Did I all cap? No, I’m just commenting like everyone else. The thing is…I don’t have to accept this as normal and I never will. I’m not mad about it, it’s not an issue, hun. I’m just commenting like everyone else but what baffling is your candor. Do you expect folks to get mad when discussing this subject and why is it so near and dear to you? You seem awfully …protective of the subject matter. I am seriously asking. This goes beyond tolerance with you.

  • Peter Piper ATL

    The school is exploring new ground. Society is changing and the school is trying to find its place in a society that is relying less on labels.

    That’s just the way it is Sandra. Change is something you, me and everybody else have to accept–even if it sometimes makes no sense because we are not the administrators so we don’t get to set the rules.

    However, I think they should have just stuck with the naturally female student body.

  • Phillybruh

    Well I simply like to argue the other side of any issue, which I do often on here. But sometimes comments stick out and seem rather personal which is what I got from a few of yours.

  • sunni_daze

    And that’s exactly what it says.

  • Ms.Vanilla

    The only reason this person wants to go to an all girls school is because he’s hunting women. Plain and simple.

  • Guess Who

    Exactly! I mean…when does the line get drawn? Trans-racial? Trans-species? Trans-inanimate object? Trans-lucent? LOL…when do we will the ceiling by being forced to accept folks playing pretend instead of calling it what it is: A mental illness?

  • You already know ?

    This ? Is sickening ???????????

  • Look@m3

    They must have started doing this RECENTLY because when I was in the AUC you could take classes at any of the AUC schools but you were still under the school you were enrolled/registered with. I took a class at Morehouse, but I was attending another school in the AUC. Its call cross registration…you just take a class, like summer school, doesn’t mean you are a Morehouse Student or Spelman Student. That’s odd that someone would say that and they attend the schools unless they changed their policies…

  • Look@m3

    Hunny I wonder how Morehouse feel about being linked up with them? You know during freshman year they get linked up with a spelman sister and morehouse brother to go through their college years with. This will be interesting.

  • You already know ?

    ?????????????????

  • Ms.Vanilla

    He doesn’t want Morehouse because there’s too many men there. He wants women.

  • Guess Who

    Fair enough…however I am not saying anything that hasn’t been said before on here, including this very thread.

  • Latisaj

    Than Morehouse would respond and say she is a biological woman!! Just go to Howard!!

  • Ozad

    its funny Sandra how you have all this indignation and self righteousness about our lesbian sisters and their issues and tribulations , but quick to label gay men as perverse deviants that lacked male role models thus undeserving of empathy. Also one that self identifies and have the courage to stand in their truth are not gender ” confused”.

  • Guess Who

    GROSS.

  • Look@m3

    I totally get what you are saying Sandra….please don’t pay ALL these comments any attention. Let them keep turning a blind eye to their own rights after while they will have no rights as women.

  • Guess Who

    *DEAD*

  • Ozad

    you all need to stop quoting the old testament and these tampered with biblical quotes that applied to people during that time period that does not apply today, so that must mean women can’t wear pants, that men clothing right?

  • Malai

    Gross is correct ?

  • bella28498 .

    how sway, she’s a boy…..see this is why trannys are annoying

  • Ebony Starr

    Next they are going to fight against gender specific schools altogether.

  • KA

    Nobody who confesses Jesus as their Lord and Savior should quote the law of the OT. Jesus was crucified so that we do not live under the law. Jesus said “love your neighbor as yourself” and there were no qualifications after that – it doesn’t say only love your neighbor as yourself IF they look like you, believe like you, live like you.” The NT also says love the sinner, hate the sin. Nobody can live to the standard of the OT, which also says animal sacrifice is necessary to be forgiven of sin – I don’t see anybody killing bird or goats. People can’t be selective about which of the OT law they see as rational and applicable to how we live today.

  • Tony Winston

    if she is not a he, he needs to take his azz over to Morehouse where he belongs, also Sandra, aint u a butch lesbian, you need to show some respect to your community cuz u are 2 shots away from manhood ya self. yaaasssssss

  • the guest

    I am a longtime fan of Sade and devastated at her daughter’s choice to become a “man”.

    What would drive Sade’s exceptionally beautiful young daughter to such self hate and disfigurement?

    Her daughter is very striking and was probably overwhelmed by male attention possibly abuse driving her toward rejecting her womanhood.

    In every photo “Ila” appears somber and unhappy in her choice. My prayers are with this young woman to find healing and peace in life.

  • the guest

    Agreed.

  • Nancy Drew-Natural & Luv’n It!

    i hear you hun…. believe me I do…
    (but that only makes it funnier, Lol!)

  • Nancy Drew-Natural & Luv’n It!

    girl, they got ME confused, smh!

  • KA

    Schools have different application criteria. Spelman does not ban lesbians. And I think they are being forward thinking by acknowledging women who identify as Male. It think it says ” we accept you as a male IN SPITE of the fact that you have a vagina; there is no place in an all women’s school for you, sir.”

    My question is why would a male-identifying woman want to go to an all women’s school anyway? And how would Spelman have to change the way it fundamentally does business to support a male-identifying woman?

    My thing is this: if a female identifies as a male – GREAT! However, don’t play the “v” card when it’s convenient – like when you want to claim discrimination on the basis of your biological anatomy, or get out of work because you have cramps.

  • 1BlueStar

    Completely agree! I was going to say the same thing. Will be like a faGGot in jail. If ‘she’ identifies as MALE then why go to an ALL FEMALE college? Why not go to a mixed gender university?

  • stav

    Your ignorance had shone through! Are there not pants made for women? Exactly so a woman wearing pants would be wearing women’s pants. Since you don’t see the clear picture which applies even to this day, God is saying men and women alike should not wear the opposite sex garb, to try to imitate or personify the opposite sex. Clearly common sense is not common!

  • AQUEEN

    There are plenty of women dressed like men walking around Spelman Campus ? But you didn’t hear that from me

  • Ms.Vanilla

    My question is why would a male-identifying woman want to go to an all women’s school anyway?
    ____________________________
    Think about it. It’s quite funny when you actually think about it. Ask yourself, would a biological red blooded american male want to go to an all girls school?….lol

  • Kayke

    Somebody needs to highlight that whole article and press delete. Why do these confused people get to live their life in limbo? Have the benefits of owning a vagina while denouncing it and claiming to have been given it in error. She shouldn’t be allow to go there…. And I hope the males who identify as females who will be permitted next year, have committed to themselves and had the surgery….or else them and their wigs need to be at Morehouse.

  • Omandesert

    You can’t have your cake and eat it to. The snowflakes are the mentally ill mo-fo’s that don’t want to accept their GOD given gender. If you want to be on the other team, grab a bat and play ball. But don’t inconsistently jump from side to side when it’s convenient for you. I commend Spellman, as someone mentioned below….take yo ass to Morehouse or one of the thousands of non gender specific university in the world.

  • Jen_no_juice

    Nope not gonna do it. I’ll wait for the next post

  • stav

    That’s a principle that still stands to this day. The 10 commandments, which were apart of the Mosaic Law.. do they still not apply to us today? Right!

  • Guess Who

    Tell it!
    Girl, these folks “living in their truth(DENIAL AND LIES)” will say anything to justify this disgusting mental illness and will damn near rip ya head off for NOT accepting it as normal.

  • indano

    Matthew 5:17-20English Standard Version (ESV)

    Christ Came to Fulfill the Law
    17 “Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them.

  • ShadesofEMPRESS

    Yuck

  • Omandesert

    Girl, I died laughing at your response!!! Take your ass to Howard ??

  • Mr.LeBrickJames

    Sooner or later, somebody is going to challenge this in court though. That’s what these people do. If they cant get their way the want to tie you up in court for years so they can get their way.

  • Kayke

    So sorry to tell you but these feMALES wear their “gear” out in public…. You can’t fall til you see it, now!

  • imasaneperson

    I don’t blame Spelman. She wants to be a man and identifies as a man then why is she trying to go to an all girls school? She should apply at Morehouse an all male school if she identifies as a man, It’s just right across the street. Nothing against her, just saying if she’s a man now then go to an all male school not on all female school, or go to a school that accepts both sexes.

  • Kayke

    Lies! No such counseling is mandatory.

  • Kayke

    “Trans-lucent” …lmao ?
    Challenge accepted.

  • https://twitter.com/Chicagowise Chicagowise

    This sounds like the story of Bizzaro, Superman’s evil double, who forced a couple to pretend he was their son. ?

  • Pamela

    I read this whole write up 5x and I’m still confused. So imma just go for a brisk walk to clear my head.

  • Renee26

    The DL dudes with snatch up a trannie quick…they’ll make out just fine

  • Rendeezil

    How can you go to school to become what you want,but youre still struggling with who and what you are. If you are in a confused state of mind,how can you even devote ALL your energy to learning. You maintain and gather information based on your outlook and experience. So they cannot deal with everyday life and issues because EVERYTHING is based on their sexual identity or the lack thereof. You cant cook in a dirty kitchen…..you have to clean first….then you can prepare to cook.

  • http://ivyleaguelove.tumblr.com/ Applebootay

    This post and Spelman’s actual policy are contradicting….SR tying to pull a fast one……Here’s my thing, if you want to be identified as a “Man” why are you applying to an all girl school? They are accepting all people who identify themselves as WOMEN and that’s should be MORE THAN ENOOUGH…DAMN!

  • Pamela

    Don’t judge lest you be judged Ms Vanilla.

  • Anji

    I didn’t like it, but USC had unisex dorm bathrooms and it worked out. I was resentful at first but adapted. The world is changing.

  • Bee jaay Cee

    You are funny Sandra but this gender stuff has my head swimming. Me thinks someone is playing around with the gene pool!

  • Anji

    According to their current policies, it isn’t all girl anymore. ijs

  • KA

    LOL! Well I know for obvious reasons. But you don’t get many male students seriously applying to Spelman.

  • KA

    Jesus had two laws “Love God, and Love your neighbor as yourself.” The law of the prophets and the mosaic law was all about loving God, which is about obeying God with reverent “fear.” Obeying the 10 commandments is about treating people right.

  • Nancy Drew-Natural & Luv’n It!

    see, confusion begets confusion, Lol!

  • hottlanta

    I heard about that. Now I gotta do a hug below the waist to see if I feel a belt buckle or a heavy piece of plastic. My favorite ID episode is when ole girl was married for years to a man and when she stabbed him the plastic dyck fell off before they put her in the ambulance and when the paramedics approached her she was saying she didn’t know that was a woman thought she was married to a man. I could imagine the look on the paramedics faces.

  • Kayke

    Na uh!!!…. How? Who doesn’t know the difference between real skin and silicone…. I dont believe that!… Girl, jut get straight to the point and ask to see it. Lol. ….
    “Hey, your cute…. ….can I see your dhick??” A fair percentage would show you lol.

  • Ms.Vanilla

    This is true because they know out the gate they will be refused. This one thought she had a way in to hunt for tail…LMBO

  • Ms.Vanilla

    Truth and judgement are two different things and most people get the two confused. Be blessed.

  • hottlanta

    Her excuse was she always wanted to make love in the dark. I don’t play that. I want flood lights and everything, magnifying glass looking for little specks checking everything out. Homegirl was on the stroll looking for a woman with low self-esteem to take advantage of and she knew she hit the jackpot with her. Yep those women be on the prowl hunting low self esteem women worst than men.

  • CaramelDrop

    I cant stand the phrase “gender assigned at birth” thats giving the doctor/nurse a lot of power in identifying someone they had NO PART in creating.

  • Ms.Vanilla

    Right. She’s a butch lesbian huntin tail…. Probably doesn’t even have anything to do with her education anymore.

  • Ms.Vanilla

    I have to say this… This person is probably taking the decision better than we are. Sandra didn’t mention ILA’s response to the outcome of her application. ILA could have said.. Ok fine… I’ll go somewhere else, no big deal…… And here we are in here cuttin up….lol

  • Nessa

    They should of thought twice before making ‘this decision. Now it’s going to be a media shit storm!!

  • hottlanta

    I wanna know who gave the LGTBQ community the green light to call women who were born women like myself a cisgender instead of calling me what I am a naturally born woman. If I didn’t identify them by their correct noun “trans” I would be accused of being homophobic and can go to jail. My birth certificate says female ain’t no CIS in front of that. Call me by my write definition. Can’t have it both ways.

  • Ms.Vanilla

    I agree.. especially since the gender is already “assigned” when it pops out.

  • Ms.Vanilla

    Truth and Judgement are two different things and people often confuse the two. Be blessed.

  • bemetoo

    So can a man living as a woman be accepted in spelMAN

  • bemetoo

    The possibility of being drug and rape are too high..lol have you ever seen boys don’t cry

  • http://sandrarose.com SandraRose

    I saw that movie. Hilary Swank deserved that Oscar. She played the role of an emotionally disturbed female-to-trans to the tee! For most movie goers that movie was their first introduction to gender dysphoria.

  • CaramelDrop

    In REAL LIFE – ROTFLMMFAO

  • hottlanta

    Can a straight child go to a EXCLUSIVE gay/trans high school that has been built with taxpayer money. I am waiting on someone to answer my question.

  • bashi

    These celebrities what deal they made in their contract for their kids to be trans . Sade is such a natural beauty lady. Her daughter is beautiful also why why why? The only child for the mother

  • TheThrowbackBeauty
  • SouthernGirlAZWorld

    Ok this is where I become confused. They would like people to address them and treat them the way they identify as. Ok so if you identify as a man wouldn’t you apply at an all male school then IDK wishful thinking I guess IDK ????

  • dontgetblocked

    I’m confused. Is the article saying that women who are living as men are not allowed to attend the school? Which makes sense because it’s an all-female school focused on empowering black women and preparing them to live and work in the world as black women. Why would someone who wants to live as a man want to attend Spelman? The question is are they allowing men who identify as women in the college. If the men have undergone surgery and planning to live as women, I guess they could attend.

  • alwayznillin

    ILA has not applied to Spellman. I’m sure ILA is okay with Spellman’s new policy, as the school is an All Female School. I doubt she would want to attend a school for females when she identifies as a male.

  • Kayke

    That’s crazy!
    I’ve never done that “in the dark only” stuff…. I don’t have time for insecurities…. If I can’t see you naked, we’re not pho ooking….. I’m a toucher, this would never happen to me. I figure a low esteem women would just be happy to be loved, even if it’s another woman… So why lie.

  • http://sandrarose.com SandraRose

    None of the trans that I know have had the surgery. It is too costly and insurance does not cover it. So, yes, they are admitting MEN with penises into the school.

    By the way, a woman with a vagina is not a man.

  • http://sandrarose.com SandraRose

    You have to remember that these people have mental disorders. They flip flop whenever it’s convenient for them. Female-to-male trans wear men’s clothing and take testosterone for attention. They are attracted to women, so why would they want to attend an all-male school?

  • HerrinSchadenfreude

    This article is all over the place.

  • TheOwley

    This is what I call wanting your cake and eating it too. A bio female identifies with men and wants to be one of the guys in every respect including legally, but wants to go where bio females go (bathroom, college, the bedroom, everywhere). I’m so confused. Come on Irma, do your thing then go away.

  • hottlanta

    Yep she struck gold when she choose that woman. Before I get some I make a brother tired. He gotta stand back so I can see it from afar. if he gotta lift his belly for me to see it he is toooo fat. He gotta turn to the side for a sideview. He also got jump up and down so I can see does if flop up and down in a bouncy motion. Next time I go to a sex shop Imma go to the strap on section and educate myself because they some stuff up in there that will fool the best of us.

  • bemetoo

    Lol ion know

  • bemetoo

    Yes she did anutie…she played that too a T

  • NIA

    GOOD! wanna be a ‘ MAN’ JOIN with MEN…

    Umm that’s the point. Watch the uproar.

  • SouthernGirlAZWorld

    Well true

  • Kilroy

    Yeah, the girls wanna be “men” but want to attend school as women. I thought Sade’s child reassigned himself anyway. Apply at Morehouse College across the street.

  • Satui Lerne

    I understand this, but I think that’s where the issue lies for Spelman. Single gender schools are designed to mitigate the distractions sexual relationships can cause during a collegiate career. Whether this truly works is up to debate, but the fact that these trans women are attracted to women goes against this framework; versus the trans men who don’t look at the student pool as potential sexual partners.

  • ZoraNealHurstonsNiece

    Auntie!!! You either one or the other!!! You CAN’T be both!!! Spellman TAKES WOMEN ONLY!!! If you identify as a “DUDE”…why are you trying to get in the door?!?! Moorehouse takes men ALL DAY!!! Stop trying to cram gay down my throat every which a way!!! DAM!!! This IS NOT about prejudice, discrimination or unacceptance… It’s about STANDING INSTITUTION!!! ONLY FEMALES GO TO SPELLMAN!!! NOT GENDER CONFUSED WANNA BE DUDES!!! Take a chill pill Sandra!!! And have several seats!!! Makes me sick!! ?

  • Ms Thang

    Good. She want to identify as a boy and boys don’t go to spelman. I’m all for people doing what makes them feel better but things are going a little too far. This 18 white boy posted a video of himself dragging a 15 year old black girl and said that’s what bishes get when they try him. The girl showed up to a pool party with about 10 teenage goons and beat his ass and now his mammy talking about she want them charged with a hate crime.

  • JustB

    Please rewrite this story cause it’s confusing…I feel like a pimp was telling a story… Talking in circles…All I want to know is are they accepted or not

  • SG

    That’s a girl who lives as a man in the pic up top? Could have fooled me. Looks like he was born a man.

  • SG

    I regularly see trans people at my job who have bought breasts, etc. Unfortunately, the surgeries are funded by prostitution.

  • SG

    Me too.

  • Ozad

    most pentecostal churches forbade women from wearing pants and a select few still do, up until the early 1940’s pant were considered masculine wear specific for males…do your research because your ignorance is in full bloom

  • stav

    You tried, and you’re super late! I know nothing of the pentecostal church, and could care less. I am speaking from what GOD said in scripture. Dressing to appear as or personify the opposite sex is detestable to God. You tried hard and that’s all you came up with? God’s word over man’s is what it is! Next!

  • http://suzar.com/BOTW/BOTW-ch1d-pages7-8.html Staci Elle

    It’s more upsetting that males who identify as women ( no surgery) CAN attend Spelman. I know a few alumni who strongly oppose this.

  • Ozad

    oooooh ok you must be one of Sandra’s stans or girlfriends…my bad…continue to pick and choose old testament verses of your liking….p.s try reading the new testament and some of the teachings of Jesus Christ

  • http://suzar.com/BOTW/BOTW-ch1d-pages7-8.html Staci Elle

    Google trans lesbians, a lot of these mtt are straight men. Strange ( and scary) but true.

  • stav

    Apparently you’re the dyke, trying to make a case against God’s word, you will Always fail, get behind me Satan!

  • T3

    ????

  • Karla E

    They need to quit. That girl don’t want to be a girl anymore. She cut her hair. She got the surgery for breast removal. She is doing everything she can to erase all things ‘she’. Is now identifying herself as a he, physically and emotionally. You can’t still reap the benefits of a school that only accepts girls while having transitioned to a man.
    These organizations are full of it and will find every narrative to fit their propaganda.

  • dontgetblocked

    Lord have mercy. This issue is becoming too prominent and confusing. I feel sorry for this generation.

  • EMILY POST

    Well it just depends the state because they are asking Insurance companies to register them as their gender of choice. They are getting paperwork and trying to eliminate any official paper trail that could expose the lie… You dont have to get any type of counseling you can just be as confused as you wanna be and everyone must play along… Under the radar extremely bad policies…. from the Obama Administration and the LGBTQMNOP lobby group…

  • INDUSTRY GURU

    What a world we live in today, could anybody have predicted this.
    So if we have gone this far, what is next, that we cant see, or predict?

  • Doink_Ahanahue

    Both are equally upsetting to me. It would be one thing if people lived their lives and went about their business. But this group is flaunting their lifestyle and choices and trying to make any and everyone accept and like them… Sad world we live in

  • TheThrowbackBeauty

    Vote me off the island.

  • TOO REAL

    Still hoping to get that funding from TRUMP. Good luck

  • Latisaj

    I’m just saying if your that damn confused just take your behind to a coed school so you can figure somethings out!! Work it out in my Martin voice!!

  • John Eichler

    What do they want? Biology or how the individual wants to identify? The same people who are upset by this are the same people who would throw a fit if you called this person a “she” since they want to identify as a man. If you want this person to attend this school, you are calling this person a “she”, which I thought was an insult. Consistency, please.

  • Daryl Campbell

    Politically Juxtaposed!

  • Layah Jhene

    @$$ backwards mess. No wonder homosexuality is considered mental illness. You a Female but wanna be a male and still want to go to a All Female college. You’re a male trying to be female and do what natural born females do ??? Retarded on top of wickedness

  • http://www.LitLoversLane.com/ Lit Lovers Lane

    Makes perfect sense to me.

  • http://sandrarose.com SandraRose

    “No wonder homosexuality is considered mental illness.”

    Let me stop you right there. Yes, we have some issues (who doesn’t?), but homosexuality is not considered a mental illness. We don’t try to be something we are not. We are happy with the skin we’re in.

  • YellowSauce

    Homosexuality used to be treated in psych wards … with electro shock … it is most definitely still IS and was considered a mental illness that people pray to god to be deliver’t from ., this is why you are all lumped together LGBTQ ( I might be missing a few letters lol ) …. Trans is considered the new mental illness but does not take away from the term “in the closet” which means traditionally homosexuality was not always acceptable hence not all being comfortable with being gay for political religious or social reasons

    Still Love you Auntie … lol

  • Layah Jhene

    It’s mental illness. You are attracted to the same sex sexually but natural kicks in and two women together sexually want to be penetrated by a penis shaped object and two men want to penetrate a hole as tight as a vagina. Mental illness and ass backwards. Plus wicked

  • http://sandrarose.com SandraRose

    “two women together sexually want to be penetrated by a penis shaped object”

    If you don’t know, please ask somebody. I’m a lesbian who does not want to be penetrated by a penis-shaped object.

  • http://sandrarose.com SandraRose

    There’s a difference between a mental illness and homosexuality, dear. Homosexuality is a sexual behavior. Mental illness means a person is mentally ‘sick’. Do you know any homosexuals? It doesn’t like you do.

    A mental illness is schizophrenia, bipolar disorder, transgenderism, depression, etc. Most mental illness requires therapy and/or medications. Please educate yourself.

  • Layah Jhene

    maybe not penis shaped object but you do want to be penetrated unless you are the one strapping up to penetrate another female like you are a man. Either way…its ass backwards mentally

  • Torch

    The whole mess should have been declined. Politically correct, morally wrong. Lost perspective Spelman. The whole world is upside down and you’ve contributed to the madness. Focus on your facilities and the students you are already committed to.

  • Torch

    Exactly! Just ask the 1st grader in California who was reprimanded and sent to the principal for calling a friend a boy. Last year he was a boy, this year he came back to school as a girl. The school reprimanded a 6 year old.

  • Torch

    If she is a he the he should apply to Morehouse.

  • Karla E

    I agree.

  • http://www.zombo.com Boba The Fett

    Well if they are confused, let them stay out of the school until they are a bit more clear on what gender their chromosomes say they are. I am tired of people who want to force other people to support their delusion. If you are a man that identifies as a woman, or a woman that identifies as a man, good for you, you have that right, but you have no right to try and make other people agree with you. I agree that you shouldn’t be harassed, beat up, or anything along those lines, but you are NOT entitled to make people share in your deluded state of mind…

  • Oya Shango

    C’mon now. They can’t have it both ways. If they have chosen to identify and live as men, and demand to be referred to as a “man,” then they have no right to apply to a college whose admission criteria is based on females who both are born, live and identify as biologically born females.

  • M’kali-Hashiki

    You really shouldn’t speak on things you don’t understand. Nor should you get your education from bad porn. You clearly know absolutely nothing about what 2 women actually do with each other sexually, so you should stop acting as if you do.

  • M’kali-Hashiki

    What the hell is this “gender confused” bs? If you identify as a woman (cis or trans), you can apply to Spelman. If you identify as a man (cis or trans), then Spelman is not the place for you as it is a woman’s college. Also, there is no proof that the individuals you are speaking of actually applied to this college & were rejected. You’re speaking in hypotheticals, confused, messed up, ignorant hypotheticals.

  • RTMartin

    America! …. If you’re purchasing tampons and being sexually gratified by another woman…. you’re psychologically destroyed.

  • Michelle Terrell

    I’m sorry, but I have to disagree here. If you are a biological woman who self-identifies as a man and wants to be seen as a man, then for all intents and purposes you are a man, and you shouldn’t expect to be admitted to an all-women’s college. The author claims that excluding biological women includes butch lesbian women – NOT. Butch women still identify AS WOMEN. You can’t have it both ways, so please stop whining.

  • Michelle Terrell

    The thing is that males who live and identify as women are not trying to be men. Females who live as, and identify as men shouldn’t expect to be accepted into an all women’s college.

  • MJ

    Damn this could have not been more misinformed and perpetuate harm to the trans community by spreading false information and poorly written gender politics. Neither R Kelly or Sade’s sons are butch lesbians who think they are men they are trans men who live as men 247 and have no business at a college for women since they do not identify as women. Gender confusion isnt real the only confused person is your ignorant ass

  • Scricketball

    why would someone who identifies as male want to go to an all-female college?

  • Scricketball

    amen

  • Layah Jhene

    What’s to know??? Lol y’all kiss, rub and penetrate each other with objects. FOH

  • M’kali-Hashiki

    Again with the showing your ignorance. Porn is not fact. Your uninformed fantasies & projection is not fact. If this is based on your “experimentation phase”, it’s not actually universal fact.

    I know that right now people are proud of their ignorance & like to show it off, but you should do something better with your time. Like, I dunno, educate yourself or STFU.

  • Erika

    As a lesbian woman, that dresses in masculine clothing but uses only female pronouns and my given name, I dont think the letter excludes me. It is wrong for you as a responsibility writer(well I’m kinda biased and think all writers are responsible and admit that I am making an assumption about you) should not denegrate the statement of a respected into bait-click crap. FTM should not be admitted because they are men. Go reevaluate your purpose as writer, good day.

  • paulmsmith

    When we begin labeling transgender men and women as “confused”, we open up another ugly controversy. What is wrong with the clinical diagnosis for gender disphoria? Who says they are simply confused? With what scientific or psychiatric authority do they speak? Is it just another judgement call to justify gender bias and discrimination.

  • Ana Segura

    You can’t have it all. Consider yourself a man and for the purpose of education say you are biologically a woman. Nope not happening. You either one or the other. You want to identify as a male then you have no business what so ever in this school. Good job to the admistration fot taking a step forward for those trans female that identify as women.

  • EMILY POST

    really and who’s regulating that counseling? Are you sure thats being done…..

  • EMILY POST

    Why would they apply at all to either school? Why wouldnt they just go to a college that accepts both sexes?
    Only to be controversial and for attention to disrupt others learning…

  • http://suzar.com/BOTW/BOTW-ch1d-pages7-8.html Staci Elle

    It doesnt matter what someone identify’s as, reality matters. Try this, I identify as a rich white woman.. lets see how that works out when I walk into the bank as see how that works out.

  • EMILY POST

    LOL They are pressed to make everyone play the pretend game because no one has pushed back and say no I dont want to play pretend with you mentally ill person.

  • Denara Auriel

    I’m somewhat happy that this article is attempting to advocate for Ila Adu (if that’s what the article is aiming to do, it’s sometimes hard to tell), however, much of the language used is incredibly transphobic and dismissive of how Adu and other transmen would liked to be identified.

  • Dorianne St Fleur

    This is bad journalism at it’s finest. How are you allowed to write for public consumption? The blatant mis-comprehension of what the letter actually says is almost laughable. P.S. calling this community “gender confused” is offensive.

  • Victor Gordon

    This article is POORLY written coupled with an ugly tone! Why does it make sense TO THIS WRITER that a “biological” ? woman, who openly identifies as being MALE, be admitted to an “ALL FEMALE” institution? Moreover, why does THIS WRITER assert that this SELF-IDENTIFYING MALE is more of a woman than a “biological” MALE WHO IDENTIFIES AS A WOMAN. It’s seems to me that THIS WRITER is fucked up in the game. And regardless to how a person CHOOSES TO IDENTIFY, this writer chooses to PLAY GOD and label people according to their primitive beliefs. FUCKERY AT ITS FINEST. SHAME ON YOU.

  • Maya Harris

    “Butch lesbian women who identify as men…” Who wrote this? There’s a major difference between a trans man and a lesbian. Research before you write.

  • Perfectly Black

    I’m just confused…period.

  • Jason Sloan

    But wait!
    That’s right. It’s a woman’s college. If you identify as a man, you go to Morehouse…
    What’s the problem?

  • isome

    Seriously, you are trash for writing this.

  • isome

    You don’t know what you’re talking about. You’re just speculating based on your toxic bias against same sex coupling.

    Talk less, listen more.

  • Denara Auriel

    Yes, thank you.

  • Layah Jhene

    Who said anything about porn? Stop justifying wickedness because you like being gay. Hit dogs holler and you’re hollering because what I said is right. Ain’t no other special type of way gays have sex. So FOH

  • http://sandrarose.com SandraRose

    What’s the major difference? Both are women with vaginas; both dress like men. Neither one is a real man. Thinking you’re a man does not make it so.

  • Layah Jhene

    There’s nothing to speculate with you gays. Nothing whatsoever. Y’all ain’t hard to figure out. Get out your feelings.

  • http://sandrarose.com SandraRose

    Since when does “identifying” make a woman a man? Spelman is opening its doors to biological MEN while denying access to biological women. That’s what the discussion should be about. Ila is NOT a man, regardless of what she THINKS she is.

  • Pittie Lover

    Wow–you are colossally ignorant.

  • http://sandrarose.com SandraRose

    They can identity whichever way they please. The rest of us see them for what they are: confused young butch lesbians.

  • http://sandrarose.com SandraRose

    And what about the men with penises who are being allowed to attend an all-women school?

  • http://sandrarose.com SandraRose

    And you are colossally delusional. Seek help.

  • http://www.keenready.com KeenReady.COM ?

    *laughs* *shrugs*

  • http://sandrarose.com SandraRose

    I personally prefer biology over what a person thinks. The psych wards are packed with delusional people who think they are something they are not. Biology tells us that only 2 sexes can procreate. anything else is delusional thinking. Delusions that are legislated by the government are dangerous. Where do we draw the line?

  • http://sandrarose.com SandraRose

    What about the men with penises who are attending an all-women school and depriving biological women of a spot in same school? Are they trash?

  • http://www.keenready.com KeenReady.COM ?

    GONE

  • http://www.keenready.com KeenReady.COM ?

    Wrong too

  • http://sandrarose.com SandraRose

    The problem is that biological women are being pushed aside to appease confused biological men. Will you be fine with it if your daughter is denied admission to Spelman because a MAN took her spot? Wake up, sis.

  • M’kali-Hashiki

    I keep bringing up porn cuz it’s the only way I can figure out that you think you know what lesbians do sexually. Usually when people have inaccurate ideas about sexual behavior it’s because they learned it by watching porn. But like I said your ignorance could also stem from your fantasies about what you think women do in bed. Or it could stem from some very limited sexual exploration with other women.

    It’s not accurate so I’m just guessing where you learned this thing that is not accurate. I’ve been a big fat Black lesbian for decades, so I do actually know the great breadth of what women do sexually with each other. And you don’t, yet you keep claiming you do & I can’t help but wonder why you’re so obsessed with this completely stereotypical & sadly limiting picture of what women do. It also tells me a lot about the limits of your own sexual activities & if you weren’t so proud of your ignorance I’d be really sorry about how lacking your own sex life clearly is. Well actually in spite of your ignorance I still pity your limited knowledge & imagination. But mostly I’m aghast at your pride in being ignorant.

  • Jason Sloan

    If my daughter can’t get into Spelman, she’ll just go to Clark. Don’t try make it more complex. You could have just written (if that’s what you call this) about why you don’t want to support the LGBTQ community and their choices.

  • M’kali-Hashiki

    Actually science tells us that there are at least 5 ways the X & Y chromosomes can combine, some of those combinations can procreate (more than 2) & some can’t. Please stop using your inaccurate grade school education as a basis for rampant prideful ignorance.
    #WeNeedBetterScienceEdInSchools
    #ThisIsWhatHappensWhenYourGovtDoesntInvestInEducation
    #KeepingBlackFolxIgnorantIsTheWhiteMansGameButWhyYouSoEagerToPlay

  • Jess_BartWilliams

    “Butch lesbians” still identify as women, so they’re in. Sexual preference has nothing to do with gender identity. This isn’t rocket science. Get over your bias.

  • http://sandrarose.com SandraRose

    “Gender” is term that was coined 50 years ago. I’ll take science and biology over your made up terminology.

  • http://sandrarose.com SandraRose

    You’re referring to extremely rare chromosomal abnormalities that have zero to do with this discussion. You still need a male and a female to procreate. My experience: Registered Nurse since 1987.

  • http://sandrarose.com SandraRose

    Lesbian here. No bias, just common sense. I’ll take science over your fake made up terminology.

  • Karita

    wow, this wasn’t biased and poorly written at all. We call that sarcasm.

  • missmack

    Wow

  • missmack

    If you want to live as a female you can go to female college if you live as a male go to school with men? Why would you identify as a man except when its time to go to school. Silly.

  • missmack

    Actually you are super ignorant. You shouldn’t be writing for public consumption at this point. Its the blind leading the blind.

  • KnowbodyXXX

    Can’t have it both ways. If you id as men then you get treated as men which means you can’t enter into a womens institution. This isn’t a matter of sexual preference either. Gender ID and sexual preference are two different things…LGBTQ’s words, not mine.

  • Pascal

    What a trash “article.” You portray yourself as very bitter and homophobic at the best. The first three paragraphs were very telling. Nº wonder you have your own website, I doubt anyone would pay you for this drivel.

  • Brian Jennings

    This is a non-issue! Transgenderism is thought to differ from gay and lesbian issues insofar as it concerns gender identity rather than sexual orientation. In this view, gender identity is considered to be independent of sexual orientation. That being said, “You can’t have it both ways” Lack of personal consistency undermines LGBTQ-rights movement, the contradictions inherent in transgenderism risk weakening the coherence of the movement’s whole intellectual edifice. They identify as MALE than they must educate themselves as a male would.

  • suganspice68

    Ila sure looks like a man.I wonder what damage will those testosterone do to Ila’s body many years from now ex:cancer or heart disease?

  • SG

    Good question! I don’t know if people consider those possibilities when getting these surgeries.

  • https://twitter.com/jaistone Jai Stone

    My sentiments exactly

  • https://twitter.com/jaistone Jai Stone

    Totally agreed

  • https://twitter.com/jaistone Jai Stone

    I share your perspective

  • https://twitter.com/jaistone Jai Stone

    Precisely

  • https://twitter.com/jaistone Jai Stone

    Thank you!

  • GREGalicious

    First off, this article is miserable for using “gender confused”. Spellman never referred to trans individuals in such a degrading and ignorant way.
    I absolutely agree with Spellman over their decision. Excepting trans WOMEN is wonderful but why the Hell would they except a trans male?? This is a women’s college.
    Ila and Jay should be excluded from attending as they are no longer women. The question is why would a trans male even apply to a women’s college anyway.

  • jackieray

    Science & biology are also made up terminology just older

  • jackieray

    a butch lesbian that identifies as a man is straight and should not be allowed in a woman’s collage unless you also allow straight men which would make it coed

  • jackieray

    yes biological women that identify as men and grow beards and muscle up would fit right in

  • jackieray

    no men with penises here perhaps women with a enlarged clitoris

  • jackieray

    they like girls?

  • jackieray

    have you ever seen a chromosomes no? then shut the fu*k up AS*hole

  • anglrdr

    C’mon, enough with the transphobia. Grow up.

  • anglrdr

    Gender identity and sexual orientation are distinct, though. Your “you can’t have it both ways” comment is nonsensical.

  • anglrdr

    You don’t understand science very well, then. LGB folks can be every bit as transphobic as we cis hets.

  • anglrdr

    A butch lesbian isn’t likely to ID as a man, though.

  • anglrdr

    Or it actually came into being in the 14th century. http://www.oed.com/viewdictionaryentry/Entry/77468
    Same, same.

  • anglrdr

    *Women with penises.

    Fixed that for ya.

  • Brian Jennings

    This is why I never comnent on public forums. How do you say it’s nonsensical after making the same point I just made? You said ‘Distinct” I said “Differ” same implications.

  • anglrdr

    Then I guess your entire comment doesn’t make any sense to me. It’s cool, though–you definitely don’t owe me an explanation.

  • Ana Segura

    The term “confused” is being mis-interpreted here. I personally have trans friends and they would never say they are confused… there is no gray middle area here. You either are, feel and want to be addressed as a women or a men, or you don’t. They are not denying education to confuse women, they are denying and all women environment to a person that identify themselves as a male. The admistration has taken a huge leal forward and are open minded enough to acknowledge that human being that does identify themselve as female. Again its an all women school. You can decide when you want to be a woman fot your own personal gain, if you solely identify with being a men. If its just education you are looking for, there are plenty other schools.

  • anglrdr

    Gender isn’t your genitalia.

    You fancy yourself a deep-thinker–act like it.

  • anglrdr

    He’s a man regardless of what you think, is what I think you meant to say.

    If not, spend some time examining why you didn’t mean to say it–and then get yourself right. Because you’re dead-wrong on this.

  • Ana Segura

    Men that no longer identify as males and are in the process of not already gone through surgery for reassignments? Those are called trans-women, not men with penises!

  • miwe3

    The comment makes perfect sense.

  • Waliyah Sadiq

    Females who identify as MALES are not permitted in Spelman BECAUSE they are “male”. It’s an ALL FEMALE SCHOOL. However, genetic men who id as FEMALE will be permitted because that is their identity now – female. This shit is not that deep. If you I’d as a man, GO TO THE ALL MALE institution. If you are scared of what you will experience in an all male institution, then fear not. Morehouse gets sweeter every year. s(He’ll) be alright.
    Hope that clears up this debate

  • Waliyah Sadiq

    No Ms. Sandra Rose, YOU DO BETTER! This article just contributes to the mass confusion. Those who identify as men, need to go to a Co Ed university or the ALL MALE school down the street where she can be all the man s(he) desires and probably get some good notes in as well. Stop stirring up shit that ain’t even something to stir. And in the back of your mind you know we right. Personally, I agree with your term “confused” when discussing the topic of this story. The child himherself should know better, but that’s the nature of confusion, isn’t it?

  • Aaron Anthony

    You’re an idiot, SandraRose. I love when dumbass people say “fake made up terminology” just because THEY are too stupid and uneducated to what certain terms mean. You clearly have a bias, and you’re definitely an asshole. You’re a Black lesbian who has issues with other members of the LGBTQ family? So they’re confused now? You DO know there are still a LOT of people who think lesbians are just confused too, right? Get over yourself, dumbass.

  • Aaron Anthony

    “Women with penises.” THANK YOU!!! I don’t know why this awful trash bag is so hung up on biology.

  • Aaron Anthony

    There’s that word again… if they’re “gender confused,” then you’re confused about your sexual orientation because you’re a lesbian – a confused woman who thinks she’s supposed to be attracted to other women. See how that sounds, you ignorant, transphobic, arrogant trash.

  • Aaron Anthony

    Like the other person said…

    “Women with penises. Fixed that for ya.”

  • Lee Anne

    A trans man is a man A trans woman is a woman. Men should not be allowed to attend an all womens college.

  • JMChambers

    The “gender issue,” (i.e., is she or isn’t he?) has been thoroughly discussed below. My concern is that Sade’s and R.Kelly’s respective daughters were thrown into your mix for what, sensationalism? It doesn’t appear that either even applied to Spelman. For shame, Sandra Rose!

  • Elle Boatman

    This article is so laughable I can hardly stop to type a critique. Also, you do know that butch lesbians don’t “live as men,” right? Right???

  • Shardell Thomas

    You cannot have it both ways. I mean, if you feel like you were meant to be another gender, commit to that gender! You cannot be like: “I know I’m a man, but I was biologically born female, so you still have to treat me with female benefits…even though I am and accept myself to be a man.” Men cannot be accepted in female only colleges. This is just holding the person to their life choices. The gender confusion is with the person, not the institution.

  • B Zandaz

    We are living in a VERY confused world

  • Buck Brennan

    “opening its doors to gender confused males ” They aren’t confused you TERF asshole!

  • YellowSauce

    Seems I stepped on a toe or 2 lol …

    Mental illness means a person is mentally ‘sick’ …

    Homosexuality is considered a mental deviance or disorder … Our sexuality IS mental … and to veer from what society has considered “normal” has led some to consider homosexuality a mental illness/disorder. And was handled as such and STILL is considered not standard to some but is more acceptable at this moment in time … I do know gay people and I guess this topic is debatable but I do know that I am not alone in my theory .. I know being gay is not ‘”curable ” but some have felt it could be and some have even claimed to be “cured” which would indicate there is an illness to be cured …
    Please don’t get it twisted
    I don’t have a problem with gay people but the mental illness thing is arguable

  • http://www.about.me/wixostrix WixosTrix

    You make a really solid point, up until your perpetuate gender confusion. It is not trans people who are confused, it CIS people, gay and straight, who often don’t understand. They typically figure out their correct gender early on and just being trying to live their lives, but we live in a binary society, making anything outside what we are told is the norm, is seen as weird, sometimes scary. It’s not.

  • Dalila Ali Rajah

    Trans people are not “Gender confused” and trans men are not butch lesbians “living as men”. You would be served by educating yourself on Trans people, gender fluidity, and LGBT people.

  • Victor Gordon

    Are you crazy? Since forever. Why are you so set on what someone was born as? Are you THAT basic? Try to understand (I know I may be hard for you) that people can be whomever they choose to be. But why would a biological ? woman WHO ON ANY GIVEN DAY AND FOR ALL OTHER PURPOSES CARRIES THEMSELVES AS A MAN even apply to a female institution? Even if you cannot comprehend that, at the end of the day, there was ZERO injustice here and Spellman probably won’t give a damn about your opinion. Pay attention to all the comments to your poorly written article. THAT alone should speak volumes

  • Hanifah Walidah

    She’s a bad writer and needs to be educated. But name calling doesn’t fly either. I’m personally offended by the word acronym TERF because I’m a masculine presenting woman of a certain age. I”ve also done a great deal to educate myself while still sticking to living myl ife as I see fit. I don’t see how that word is any better than they number of words used against LGBT folks over the years. If you use it as a disarming weapon, how are you, us any better? I’m saying.

  • Annice

    Neither women who live as men or men who live as women should be accepted. To do either disrespects the school and it’s history.

  • Olympia Sherron

    If she (because genetics say she is still a she & will always be a biological female) self-identifies as a male WHY the desire to attend an all women’s college? That makes no sense. Men go to Morehouse & women go to Spelman so “he” should go to Morehouse UNLESS all of this bull? is really just for attention.

    Cismales & transgender males are welcome at Morehouse, correct? And Cisfemales & transgender females are welcome at Spelman, correct? Bisexuals, heterosexuals, & homosexuals are also welcome at both schools, correct? Then both colleges are doing what they are supposed to do to be inclusive. Case closed!

  • Burleson Fred

    I really think the problem is, that they are completely confused.

  • Burleson Fred

    In other words, people should be forced to conform to your lifestyle, true?

  • Burleson Fred

    Complex problem, is it not?

  • Burleson Fred

    Actually, I find the whole LGBTQ-Rights movement, total BS. What next Bestiality?

  • Burleson Fred

    Really, I think they should skip the whole College thing, because if they are that confused, college is not going to do them any good at all.

  • Burleson Fred

    Only problem is, that this is a biological woman, that thinks she is a Man.

  • Burleson Fred

    I don’t want to support them at all.

  • Burleson Fred

    Hell I would not want to go to a College that is that confused. To much distraction.

  • Burleson Fred

    Well I sure did see you dispense any great wisdom either, Faux-Freud.

  • NikkiBoo1992

    If you wanna live like a man, go to a different institution. I don’t see the wrong here.

  • KWhoa

    No. The shame is on the writer of this article.

  • nims

    you are one stupid ass bitch. first of all, butch lesbian WOMEN don’t identify as men. second of all, you said “daughters of” and then followed it with “who now live as men.” so that wouldn’t make them DAUGHTERS then, now, would it? pick one, you dumb ass bigot. and yes, you are transphobic and homophobic, not sure why you’d take issue with those labels. maybe Spelman’s new policy was drawn up by people who are actually well-educated on these issues, unlike yourself. if you want to remain ignorant, that’s fine, just don’t go making assumptions about other people that you know nothing about and mind your damned business.

  • nims

    and lol, no woman is being “deprived” of her spot in the school because trans women are in attendance.

  • nims

    now i just think you’re afraid trans people might be smarter than you. which many of them probably are.

  • http://sandrarose.com SandraRose

    Maybe your doctor can adjust your medications? As another loyal reader said, confused people don’t belong in college.

  • GREGalicious

    It’s really only as complex as people make it. Neither bio nor trans men belong at Spellman.

  • nims

    oh, so i suppose every 18 year old going into college has everything all figured out.

  • nims

    if that were the case, one would wonder why they would need college at all.

  • nims

    you know damned well you don’t make sense and you’re just trying to promote your bigotry in a not-so-subtle way.

  • Sonia Holloway

    Im thinking its more of look than any thing else..like a gender ” confused man looks like a woman so among the student body they wont stand out. But lets be honest…if u look like a dude and is living like one why are u applying to a womans college???
    From a distant u will look like a man at a women only college its not about sexuality and choice but the astetics of the overall vibe on campus.if u wanna go tone down the mascalinity. If not then apply to Moorehouse u cant have it both ways
    Shruggzz

  • Brainy Smirks

    Gender confused… gender confused… gender confused…

    Nope! Even repeated 3 times in a row sounds stupid.
    So… what run of the mill HOTEPIAN blog have I stumbleth upon?

    Oh… Sandra Somebody?
    The same one who did the post warning about the things women do to emasculate men, because we all know that’s a HUGE problem for us poor poor men.

    Nah.
    You’re confused.

  • Nayberry

    That’s what I’m thinking. If you are living like a man, you should apply for a man’s college or a college that admits both sexes.

  • paulmsmith

    Agreed. He is overreaching here.

  • Kimmy Kas?

    If you don’t identify as a woman and actively live as one why would you apply to an all girls school? The importance of a school like this is to create a safe place for women of color to learn and grow and if you don’t identify as one you may hinder that process.

  • Ana Segura

    RKelly sons fully identify themeselves as male and have been living as trans male for a while now. So no not butch lesbian.

  • http://www.zombo.com Boba The Fett

    Yes, I have seen chromosomes. Come shut me up, you ankle biting scat muncher…